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Season 1 Finale: Questions, Forgetting Your Britches & Pheromone Perfume
This anniversary celebration - complete with Veuve and card games - we unlock our views on sports, cheerleaders (one of us was a college cheerleader!), and one of us has no rhythm and zero depth perception. How we travel - where we’ve traveled - and where both of us are headed next … solo!
From unpacking Zodiac signs to unpacking pheromone perfume - we also hint at what’s coming next ! Stay tuned - and get a little tipsy - with your favorite mayhem co hosts! Cheers to our first season!
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Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
This anniversary celebration - complete with Veuve and card games - we unlock our views on sports, cheerleaders (one of us was a college cheerleader!), and one of us has no rhythm and zero depth perception. How we travel - where we’ve traveled - and where both of us are headed next … solo!
From unpacking Zodiac signs to unpacking pheromone perfume - we also hint at what’s coming next ! Stay tuned - and get a little tipsy - with your favorite mayhem co hosts! Cheers to our first season!
For more mayhem, be sure to follow us:
Insta @marketingandmayhem
YouTube @MarketingMayhemPod
And don't forget to leave us a 5 star review! Or message us to deep dive into your topic or just give us feedback!
Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
I'm not gonna do that, alright, episode 12.
Speaker 2:Wooo, season 1, finale baby.
Speaker 1:Didn't see it like how many did you? Alright, I'm filling up. That's what she said. Well, her, he said no, I think it's what she said. Sure, that's what he said. He didn't see that one coming. Oh Okay, but I'm so excited to cheers to this, she's gonna toast.
Speaker 2:Oh God no.
Speaker 1:I don't have one either.
Speaker 2:I have two options. One is an old wedding toast.
Speaker 1:No Okay, but it's actually kind of like fun. No, the way that you end a wedding toast.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know how to say it well, but we'll try that.
Speaker 1:Okay to love laughter. Happily ever after.
Speaker 2:That's terrible. Get close to your mic.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, what's another one To strong women Me be them, me know them, me raise them.
Speaker 2:I do feel that way. Yes, how about to us? Yes, and do this. This is my happily ever after. No, this is a big freaking deal. No, I know we have wrestled with this thing.
Speaker 1:Anybody who says starting a podcast is easy is sadly mistaken because I've seen that Instagram trying about like if boys could do it.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Oh, really, it's because I have the card game between my legs.
Speaker 2:Let me get up here.
Speaker 1:So we brought games.
Speaker 2:I love a game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I actually hate a game. My friend Whitney is going to laugh really hard at this.
Speaker 2:That's so crazy to me because, like I think games are so fun, you and her both agree.
Speaker 1:You don't love a game. No, you know what I hate Directions, listening, authority rules.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, I just like a game because I think they're fun.
Speaker 1:No, I know because she definitely shares this and there was a moment during a hurricane where we actually went to her mom's house to evacuate and we ended up playing an actual card game. Yes, no, we call him Pa, but her mom's husband, pa, he and I cheated so bad. He used to be a firefighter. He has this great story.
Speaker 2:Oh, and then she got so frustrated and so annoyed, the whole thing got off the rails, but you don't like a connect for, or a no-no, or a phase 10 or, like you like a puzzle who's playing? With a puzzle, just like you. It's like a solo Mish.
Speaker 1:Nope, you and I.
Speaker 2:I would do a puzzle with you. I don't want to do a puzzle with you. Oh my God, I'm sorry. I do puzzles with other people's stresses, man, you do, because I have a very systematic way of doing a puzzle.
Speaker 1:You don't think I?
Speaker 2:could be in your system.
Speaker 1:We, literally have a podcast and a marketing company and we've done the craziest in person meetings in our life and you're like I don't think you fit in my system, yeah no, I don't think you would, because I like to gather all of my outside pieces in one place.
Speaker 2:Everyone does that, do they?
Speaker 1:I don't think so because I feel like I've been with puzzle people. Let me guess you start with the corners.
Speaker 2:No, I don't, jenny, I don't. You're stressing me out.
Speaker 1:I will not do a puzzle with you, because I feel like that's just.
Speaker 2:We're doing one for episode one. It's a solo Mish I just didn't hear. Listen to us do a puzzle.
Speaker 1:I'm actually quite certain that thing would go off the rails in the first 30 seconds and they would love it.
Speaker 2:We might not have a podcast anymore. We might be like I can't be your friend.
Speaker 1:I think that would be great. Can we do one over at Christmas, Like no?
Speaker 2:we can do a Hallmark puzzle. Well that sounds kind of fun, Maybe like let's start simple. They're like 100 pieces.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah, I think we can do a little bit more Like I don't think I would do a puzzle with my husband there.
Speaker 2:You really do it alone. Yeah, like it's a strict solo Mish for me. Is that the two in you? Probably the two. Can we talk about that? I finally took the personality test and I am a two.
Speaker 1:You are an Eagram2 hardcore. I actually thought you were going to be my Eagram and I should have known better.
Speaker 2:I know I was really shocked, but it hit me like even the things that I've read, like about their pros, their cons, how they grow.
Speaker 1:I'm like OMG, it's so me it's such good insight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 1:So you were like what test do we take? I'm like, take any. There's a million, I think.
Speaker 2:I did like personalityquizcom or something, but it has to be an Eagram. Yeah, it was it was.
Speaker 1:No, I know I'm, I agree, I just like it whatever you do. So this is what it says about. Let's see where's your Eagram2 in here, because you actually sent us. I did open it in the thing. Oh, here, Eagram2, personality type Seeks to serve or seeks to serve. Seeks to give, selfless, empathetic, nurturing, attentive. The giver, the helper. I sound so sweet?
Speaker 2:Well, I think you are, unfortunately, I sound really sweet, no, I know, and then mine sounds very You're so I know when I like like I was going to post it that I'm like I feel like I sound like an angel and then you sound kind of like a bossy person and I was like I feel like I sound like a drunk, I'm like sweet and you're like the main one. I would never say I know, I would never say that, but then when I read yours Okay, so in Eagram2, this is like we took, we're so okay.
Speaker 1:This is not exactly how everyone would explain it, but we're going to use the two and the eight from the same person because I think that matters. Right. It's like continuity Mind says seeks challenges, seeks intensity. Aggressive, assertive and assertive Assertive, bold, controlling the boss, the challenger.
Speaker 2:So I know that's why I didn't post it, because I'm like God. I sound like an angel.
Speaker 1:She's like a dick. What if I am a dick?
Speaker 2:That's why I didn't post it, because I was like you're shutting to find better adjectives.
Speaker 1:I think the biggest thing what I know from like knowing for years that I've been in Eagram2, is that, like I know that the hardest things for me more than if you zoom out are like when people try to control me and when people try to talk over others. That's where I have to speak up. Like I'm a really big person about like being defensive over, like the underdog or the whatever. Like I just I can't be in a room where somebody is taking advantage of somebody and like let it go. I, I it's innate.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, that makes sense. Maybe that's why we do G-Haul all together, because I don't, wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1:That's, that's not true, I wouldn't do that. Oh, you like you wouldn't do that to someone. No, but you would defend them.
Speaker 2:Yes, Well, that's what I mean. I just mean, I would look, I would never put the situation where you had to defend somebody.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Like how many people would really do that? That's awful, I don't know, I guess.
Speaker 2:I'm more like you also would be the protector in a lot of ways, because that's one of the ways that we mesh and I think that's one of the negatives. From I it's like possessive Ooh, all right, it's pretty dead on the. I am Okay, I am Like I might pee on you to mark my territory. In my own bed. It's like the tears of death.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the house that I bought with my own money, yes, so yeah, we're having our first sleepover tonight, it's true. Which is super exciting because we are going to be back in the great season one episode 12, season finale. We're super excited. It's going to be weird and chaotic and we have three games here of different questions so we can get to know each other better and maybe y'all can get to know us better. So buckle up, baby, it's going to get weird.
Speaker 1:This has been a big conversation because, like we have explained this more than a few times and if you're new here, we were acquaintances. Yeah, it's so weird. Well, we really did not know each other, not at all when we embarked on a massive journey. Like we have been in rooms that honestly, like there was moments where we were in the bathroom like holding onto each other, kind of panicking, but like at the end of the day, everything's fine. Yeah, it's fine. We did great, but we learned a lot very quickly. It's like your dating shows Love is Blind.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:We really went into the dunk take.
Speaker 2:Speaking of that, did you watch our union? Yes, I did. All right, just real quick, guys. What was the takeaway for the reunion? How did you feel about it?
Speaker 1:What's the guy with the? The muscly guy with the hair?
Speaker 2:Trevor.
Speaker 1:Thank you, didn't I say to you in text very early. I was like I don't like anything about this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I definitely was like not happy. I could just tell right away I thought back on it because I was like I'm not and you're like no, because there was somebody else the toe. In that situation where you're like no, wait till you see this person, I was like I am so unhappy about this, the Zoop person and I was freaking dead on.
Speaker 2:Well, trevor, yeah, a liar, he's a liar. They didn't really dig in a Jimmy and Chelsea match. How about Trevor just?
Speaker 1:sitting there saying nothing.
Speaker 2:Who.
Speaker 1:Wasn't it Trevor that was sitting there saying nothing.
Speaker 2:Yes, just complete blank, didn't he like? Walked off, didn't he?
Speaker 1:Ernie Fred and Ernie Fred or Bert what?
Speaker 2:Fred, I'm like it's Fred and Ernie. I don't know, god, were you in the 80s baby?
Speaker 1:No, I was a little bit, but.
Speaker 2:I just made a reference to She-Ra right before we started recording. She was like who's She-Ra? And I'm like y'all. Please tell me that you remember She-Ra, princess of Power. Princess of Power. I'm not publishing right now. No, I don't know the Princess of Power. I had like a freaking lunchbox and thermos She-Ra. It was like the he-man. Oh my God, I'm so pissed. If you don't mind this, I'm gonna have to post it. I'm telling you all about this. What year were you born? I thought I was older than you, 83. No, maybe one.
Speaker 1:Okay, this means She-Ra missed me.
Speaker 2:I'm not happy about this.
Speaker 1:I told you my mom was like was really weird about TV.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was She-Ra. She was like an empowering woman. You got 30 minutes you had to earn it.
Speaker 1:I don't think you understand. I do.
Speaker 2:All right, we digress guys, we're gonna roll into the questions.
Speaker 1:You did just learn something about this.
Speaker 2:I know I'm shocked. We are drinking and we hope that you are either in your car thinking about drinking or maybe at home drinking with us, because we wish we were drinking with you. So thank you for joining in.
Speaker 1:First card is coming out of a game named Fold. Okay, let's roll. All right, is it for me? Well, I thought we were gonna do for both of us. Ah, okay, I feel like that. How would you describe my personality to your friends?
Speaker 2:Ooh, ooh.
Speaker 1:Do you want?
Speaker 2:me to go first, no, okay. Well, I feel like if you go first and I'm gonna be sitting here thinking the entire time and like I feel like I won't listen, so like let me go first, truly Okay, I love that. Just to be being honest, I think that you are warm, I think that you are a nurturer. Last episode you said you can't hug me, I know, but like that's different, that's different. You are a caretaker, you are somebody who takes care of people, even in undeserving situations. Oh, you are very smart. What was the question?
Speaker 1:How would you describe my?
Speaker 2:personality yeah, very smart, you're a lot of fun. You are creative.
Speaker 1:You are someone who Don't say too much, because you know I can handle that.
Speaker 2:Okay. You are someone who people would want in their corner. Okay, and I'll end with that Is that good yeah? I love that I feel like you're uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I don't know, I can't do this.
Speaker 2:I know I'm kind of sweating about it.
Speaker 1:I haven't unhealed this part of this, I'm gonna go puke. Remember what we said we don't edit.
Speaker 2:We don't edit yeah.
Speaker 1:Last time somebody knocked on my door, I mean it's fine, it's real life, guys. Okay, I always tell people this You're going to love her. She is the South of my New York Super witty. So funny. Best gift giver ever I am. You actually gave me a gift tonight. I did. I love it so much. You guys. We have Yeti's that have our Gritty Gal marketing like stamp on them my favorite thing. Yeah, they're beautiful. That logo makes me so happy.
Speaker 2:It's so happy, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I also always say this we have a chemistry that's really hard to explain when you, if you dial back and you understand how we got here, it doesn't really make sense. But both of us have enough belief in general, like in a higher power or whatever, that we were like able to take this, like jump in one another and every once in a while we're like you can see, we're like still getting our footing, but I think that we have enough belief also in one another that we stayed on really solid ground. I'm really proud of us. This has been a really big year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been great. It's only March, it's only.
Speaker 1:March, starting in October. So on six months in. It's our six months.
Speaker 2:Ah, it's our six months. Oh, my God, I love it, it's our anniversary.
Speaker 1:You told me the other day that you remembered you were like, what did you call it? Like the day you met Nate, oh, our anniversary. Okay, well, I could not tell you that for anything. Yeah, it's our anniversary, the actual day that you met. You remember it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, february 25th 2010.
Speaker 1:That was the year I got married.
Speaker 2:Changed my life. I love you honey.
Speaker 1:It can. Every episode has like a Nate. I hope Nate's mom listens.
Speaker 2:I hope she does too. Shout out to Becky you made and the maze.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I got this. Yes, we just talked about this.
Speaker 2:See, that's how crazy it is, how little we know about each other, cause like back in our texting it was like well, you know.
Speaker 1:You said can I call you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then we just like came out on last episode 10. Yeah, I called you back and I was like Two times I needed to ask you if I could do that. And you were like yeah, it's fine. And I was like do you know Clark's middle name is Rebecca? And you were like no. So that's how little we know about each other.
Speaker 1:True, but like so the Becca thing it's kind of like the hugging thing has been coming up a lot recently. Everyone's like can I call you Becca, can I hug you?
Speaker 2:You're warming and evolving and I love that You're growing right in front of your eyes Gosh, I love it. All right. All right, my turn. I got another one though.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, I heard it first. What do you think my biggest weakness is? What do you think my most significant strength is?
Speaker 2:Oh, jiminy, christmas, I'll go first. Oh, geez, okay, I already know, you're even me, mine are yours. No, I'm getting yours.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, okay, I think you doubt yourself when you don't need to Sorry. Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think yours is. You don't know what healthy communication looks like.
Speaker 1:I love that, yeah, even though you let me watch a show called Love is Blind. Yeah, and you didn't tell me anything about it. And then you said that happens to me a lot. What?
Speaker 2:Love is. Well, you were very literal, you were literal like about it. I thought it was love on the spectrum. I know and I love that about you. All right, so what was the second part of the question?
Speaker 1:I was going to say is you don't have to be like.
Speaker 2:You worry a lot about that, but you don't have to worry, I do, I do worry a lot.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know there's nothing about you that makes me think that you need to worry about that like you do.
Speaker 2:I know, I know that I love that and you just need to know that people love you and communicate with you because they love you and that's why they communicate with you. It's never it's not always a negative thing. I think we should quit the game. Switch to the fun questions. My armpits are sweating. Geez, I'm muddying. God Wait, let's go over here. What's your favorite color? Let's start there. Don't play these on a date.
Speaker 1:Wait, I remember this.
Speaker 2:If it's got anything to do with it.
Speaker 1:What is the one thing you would intentionally leave on your person? Nope.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're not going to read anything that makes us uncomfortable to a point.
Speaker 1:We have boundaries, people Okay so the girls night game is kind of.
Speaker 2:It's raunchy, so we have three games here.
Speaker 1:What's your favorite spectator?
Speaker 2:sport God.
Speaker 1:Well, it was the least of the ones that you gave. I know it's spicy, isn't it?
Speaker 2:We haven't drank enough champagne for this yet, but we'll get there. My favorite spectator sport is probably baseball, because I like baseball players and it's the one game I can understand. Oh my God, your turn. Should we be really asked about that?
Speaker 1:Just so you know, I'm a huge, massive Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen Finn. Like I love the Bills. If you need me to explain the game to you, though, but that's football, right, is it, jenny? Because I feel like a lot of people understand what like A second down this.
Speaker 2:So here in the South we do college football. Right In the North you guys do pro football. We call it the NFL or that Right. So there's just the difference. So like we don't really follow proteins, we follow, like, but I think, the rules, what I'm saying is.
Speaker 1:I don't necessarily know the rules of the game.
Speaker 2:What are you there for the players?
Speaker 1:No, I love the game.
Speaker 2:Then, what do you love about the game? If you don't understand the game Watching it, I don't have to know all of it. But like what do you cheer for Vils? Well, right, but like how do you?
Speaker 1:know I can tell where we're going. Did you ever cheer? Are you joking Did?
Speaker 2:you cheer. I cheered my entire life, oh my god. I cheered and danced my entire life. I danced, I cheered in college.
Speaker 1:Yes, you were a college cheerleader.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh my god, you didn't know this about me.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm blushing. I'm blushing, I actually did not cheer I feel like you're athletic though Like sporty, you're sporty.
Speaker 1:You can literally stick me just about anywhere. Ball sports I don't do ball sports. I have no depth perception In my adult. The earth is flat, okay. So like I, this is what doesn't make sense. I was a ballerina and then I was also a competitive springboard diver Up to 10 meter, which is 33 feet. Okay, I think I used mine up Because if we were to drive up to the mountain, if we drove up a mountain, I had to put my head between my legs. I usually have to like just scream I'm going to die. I think mine's gone. I used it all 33 feet in the air Doing stuff. It doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2:We're going to alarm going off people.
Speaker 1:No. That's from my predecessor, and that's an episode to be determined, yeah.
Speaker 2:Hormone episode is coming soon, please. All right, so that's good for that question?
Speaker 1:Right, probably. But you won't do the dances on TikTok Flip. No, you could be teaching them to me.
Speaker 2:I could be teaching, I would be so good. But there is no way in hell. Do you know? I can't dance.
Speaker 1:No. I think you might be shook.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm an incredible dancer. Like truly, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't shoot my own horn. I'm a great dancer, but there is no way in hell you will ever catch me dancing on marketing at mayhem or gritty gal. Nope, nope.
Speaker 1:Hard pass.
Speaker 2:There's not enough champagne in that bottle, which, by the way, I need some more.
Speaker 1:Go here, let's go to the blue game. What is this? All right? Does Rebecca, do you know me?
Speaker 2:Believe in zodiac signs.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Do you know the summer cusp? So I have May 21st of my birthday.
Speaker 2:I share it with Biggie Smalls and Josh Allen, who is the quarterback for the all of this stuff, about this stuff, and I don't know anything about this.
Speaker 1:Wait. So the fact that I share birthday with Josh Allen and Biggie Smalls is amazing in and of itself. I made a name with Smalley. I know I love that. This was like a whole thing growing up. So I'm actually cusp, so I'm a tourist and a gem and I, which basically is like three May 21st.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'm Nate's. Nate's May 12th.
Speaker 1:Well, it's even, we're there.
Speaker 2:Well, no, like that's a what.
Speaker 1:Gemina yeah, but it's just transposed. Nope, it's a tourist. No, hold on, I think it is. I think it's a Gemina. No, I think Gemina is into June. Oh well, I'm a Libra, I do know that. Oh, my God, my high school boyfriend was a Libra.
Speaker 2:See, look at us, look at us. And I don't know what that means, but I'm a Libra. What is the date? The third, and then Clark's Libra. She was born 10 days after me. I mean years different, I understand, but yes.
Speaker 1:Well, obviously Josh Allen and I are not the same age and Biggie Smalls and I are not the same age.
Speaker 2:RIP.
Speaker 1:Um, obsessed, Obsessed. So I also were in my dining room office in this year for Valentine's Day. I got myself a neon sign and it says it was all a dream and I couldn't help myself when I got the Amazon. I don't think those are good words. I don't think they're good. They um, some of these they are spicy.
Speaker 2:Ooh, let's do this one. Okay, your girlfriend, I'm assuming that to you.
Speaker 1:Wait what.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're my girlfriend, would say. Her most alluring feature is ooh, I love that.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't think I have a lure.
Speaker 2:Well, that's unfortunate, yes you do, it's probably humor. I love humor.
Speaker 1:Do you know that Honestly?
Speaker 2:that's why I probably got with Nate. I thought he was the funniest person ever. I do live for it. Like nothing makes me happier than like almost peeing my pants. Oh my God, he was so witty.
Speaker 1:Now I was like I'm here for it.
Speaker 2:I absolutely connect to wit over like hand over fist above anything Like you could be like David Beckham status, but if you had a friend, David Beckham status, but if you had a horrible sense of humor I could not get down with it. No, leave immediately.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. Like what's worse, though, let's talk about this. My big thing is like so once I went on a blind date well, we were all like meeting at this bar situation and the guy kept looking at himself. I had my sunglasses up on my hair. Oh, you kept looking at himself in my sunglasses, not cute.
Speaker 2:Awful yeah.
Speaker 1:I'll never forget it. I'll never forget it. I know these are raunchy. No, I know I don't do the blue deck. Do the blue deck? Wait, you didn't tell me you're a lure, my lure.
Speaker 2:Um, I would. I would venture to say also my wit. I feel like I'm fairly let's make you choose the body part. Okay, body part Wow. Um, maybe not I have. I do have good legs. I work really great legs, thank you, I work really hard on them and they're long, and eight out of the 10 or 12 months they're they're brown, so that's nice. No, you do have great legs, thank you, I agree. Thank you, that's like one of the things I don't like about myself.
Speaker 1:Really. Yeah, I would choose boobs and waist if I was going to give you like a part. Okay, I have a nice waist. Hey, gips, you don't have big hips compared to my waist. I do.
Speaker 2:No, they call that baby making hips, that's what they say.
Speaker 1:We're not making any other things.
Speaker 2:I know, but that's like a Kim K thing now. That's like a big thing. So little waist. This, this, what's that? It's like baby got back 36, 24, 36. Is that?
Speaker 1:what it is, 100%. That's what we got here. That's what we got.
Speaker 2:Give it to me all day. Let me tell you something there's one thing I don't want to have, it's the old lady, flat butt you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, right.
Speaker 2:So it haunts my dreams when I'm at the gym. I could give a right ass about many things other than the way my butt is going to look as I transition into my mid 40s. Truly, it, it, it scares me. You know what I'm talking about. That like that like butt it's like I do. It's like just the leg with like the skin and them. A quick break to introduce our new partner nude nude, try nudecom.
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Speaker 1:Have you ever gone to that broad place by Shem Creek?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, it's too fancy for me, I can't do it.
Speaker 1:I was going to say that's the first time I had the proper broad measurement.
Speaker 2:What kind of underwear do you wear? This is another question. This is not on the card, but what kind of underwear are you?
Speaker 1:like right off the rip I mean as opposed to what. No, I don't know. I just like no purpose, like you're not going to tell me what you are first. So usually I'm always a thong girl.
Speaker 2:Are you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, are you not no?
Speaker 2:Oh, I feel like, as I've gotten older, I'm like, I think I'm going to be like whatever. I'm like I think things just need to breathe a little more and I feel like it just you can breathe in the thong.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of friction. It's a lot of friction, it's not fray like separate parties.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's do a poll. Time to on.
Speaker 1:Let's do a poll about this.
Speaker 2:See, I love a bikini.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I do. I love a bikini.
Speaker 1:I have wider hips than you, though, so if you put me in like a thong and you like riding a little high in the sides, slam it Okay. Do you see what's happening here? It's like the Baywatch. Like a high, like a high waste, so that's where I can like win.
Speaker 2:But I would like to do a poll about the underwear situation there, because I wonder, as we get older, what kind of underwear do we trust transition into?
Speaker 1:Wait, why do we have to transition?
Speaker 2:Well, because, like I wait, I feel like this is about to take a turn and I don't think I want to take it.
Speaker 1:Okay, so just take two seconds. We're going to stop Cheers.
Speaker 2:We will reboot about the underwear but I would like to know about what kind of underwear that us ladies are wearing on the day today.
Speaker 1:I'm wearing on the date on the Tuesday yeah, it's like a random Tuesday. Cotton Thong lace side black. Always I buy the black, 10 at a time. From where Amazon, amazon, okay, or like the skinny side with the ribbed front.
Speaker 2:Because you know, a lot of people buy their paintings at Costco Shit. We can buy the. They don't sell long, so I don't think.
Speaker 1:Oh well then, that's why I don't do it Okay.
Speaker 2:I buy my socks All right, so we'll come back to the painy conversations.
Speaker 1:Why do you?
Speaker 2:want to sell. It's really weird. You started it.
Speaker 1:All right, wait. Mine actually says do you? Mine actually says do you prefer the long-sleeved or bikinis? So maybe you just rent mine. Have you ever hitchhiked? I have actually, jenny, I have. You've got to be joking. No, I have hitchhiked and you will literally.
Speaker 2:I will do anything not to drink and drive. Well, I will say do you know, hello if you live like freaking 10 miles away from somewhere. But I will say do you know who? I hitchhiked to A cop. I got in the back of his cop car and I was like, oh, I love that. You know what this is better than me driving. He was like you know what it is? I appreciate you trying to hitchhike tonight. True story. I would absolutely steal city in Mount Pleasant.
Speaker 1:I would absolutely with my friend with the back of a cop car. Yeah, I got in the back.
Speaker 2:I was like, hey, listen, I can't find her at home. Is there anything she can give me around home? Like I was walking down Coleman, this is a true story. Like was it recently. No, I'm so responsible, I'm my mother.
Speaker 1:I got another one for you.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:Have you ever blocked someone on social media? On the reg, I do this on the reg, so I just started doing this. Yeah, how do you on the reg? You just go ahead. How do you choose?
Speaker 2:Because I feel like there are certain people in my life Friends or family who Do you shoddy things like screen, send screenshots or gossip about me, and like I'm just not going to give a feudal to fire, so I just blocked them. So I just went through today and did this.
Speaker 1:I love it Because we've been like talking about all these things and some of it's unsocial. And then I have obviously like and recently I had my cat pass away and like I have a certain amount of people who know me fairly well because of where I lived that have yet to say anything about the divorce or the podcast or the cat or anything, but watch like hawks. So I went through on that night after the cat passed and I actually blocked all of them from my stories.
Speaker 2:Yep, and I don't feel bad about it. No it wasn't being mean, but like at some, point.
Speaker 1:you have to choose how, what your participation level is, and I can. Just it doesn't feel good, and so I'm in a place where I'm like if it doesn't feel good, it probably is as bad as I think, if not worse, and so. I'm just going to go ahead and remove your ability to see my entire life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I just I don't see the point. You have a million things that you could reach out to the amount of people that spent, took time to either send a nice message or go to text and say, hey, I saw this here and I wanted to reach out. If you haven't done that and you've had 9000 chances in the last six months because I've given you more than a few- yeah. I just started, yeah.
Speaker 2:I love a block. I do, I love a block.
Speaker 1:I just started having block freedom. I just think that it's one of those things that you just I'm glad I asked you, because I've actually been feeling not that great about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't at first, but then I was like, you know, I feel like I have to do what's best for me, because I don't ever do that. Yeah, and I, you know, it's just one of those things like yeah, I mean no, just no, I'm just not doing it. I'm not going to participate or be a part of somebody else's entertainment, doing what I feel like I need to do, yeah, just not doing it.
Speaker 1:No, I love that for you, right, you're right, like I'm not here to be your court jester.
Speaker 2:No like because your life is so lame that you have to like watch me and like have comments, and then what Like?
Speaker 1:that's all screenshots.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, not doing it, not doing it. Okay, cheers, cheers. All right, let's get weird.
Speaker 1:Ooh, weirder than under.
Speaker 2:These questions are so intense. Like Jim Merry, Christmas.
Speaker 1:You're in the wrong deck. That deck is really that's like a Bachelorette deck.
Speaker 2:I mean, it is Nope.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, my God, oh, do you play video games? No, okay, who? Neither I mean this is insane. Do you have a friend online? You've never met in person.
Speaker 2:Who.
Speaker 1:A friend.
Speaker 2:No, but I do have a pen pal, kind of I actually do have an online friend. So tell me about your pen pal.
Speaker 1:What a term.
Speaker 2:Me and this girl. She lives seriously. This is so funny like two miles from me and all in all.
Speaker 1:Why don't we meet her?
Speaker 2:I don't know, and I don't even know how we got connected. Maybe it was through like another friend. Well, no, we like message and it's like On.
Speaker 2:Instagram Almost the point that Instagram text message like we are a lot of like. She is an entrepreneur, she has a daughter who is 11, I think Just we were very similar and she literally lives like two miles from my house and like we've tried to get together and it's just we've never like caught each other. But so we but we've always written each other and like ask questions and like check them with each other. Like she came and dropped me off like a hat, like a you know for her business or whatever, so like we're pen pals, but I physically have never been in her presence.
Speaker 1:Don't look at me, I have so many. Well, you have hinge.
Speaker 2:So no, no, no, no, I mean like no, I have at least.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to say like shout out to Stephanie easily, shout out to Robin, shout out to Ashley and their Charleston Kate in Florida. I could go in for a long. Heather Miller, I'm like obsessed. We actually are like playing a concert to meet up like I have it's so you're, you have like a fan base. No, no, no, we're like friends, but we just haven't met. I know it sounds weird.
Speaker 2:But it sounds weird, but not really.
Speaker 1:I will tell you this, any other people that I just named. We're having really, really, really honest conversations, typically about something that I've shared that, like puts me in a really raw light, and so they're reaching out and saying like, hey, oh my gosh, like me too. Whatever you can pick and choose your own adventure there. But, like, some of it's like kids, some of it's business, some of it's social media, but, like our conversation has evolved. All of those are more than a year old.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:I love them. I would totally like meet up or do like do a girls vacation or like a book retreat or something like that. A book retreat Do you know that's a trend.
Speaker 2:No. So Beck and I, we are both on a path right now who.
Speaker 1:We both want to do a vacation separately.
Speaker 2:Not from each other. No, we just we both want to do like a solo trip, and so I came in tonight and I was like I think I found my place. It's like this wellness retreat.
Speaker 1:No, thank you.
Speaker 2:Wellness retreat in North Carolina, where I'm really proud of you, though. Like you go for seven days like you exercise a lot, you hike, you do yoga, you meditate, you kind of like shut down, like block out the world, you eat healthy, like all these things. She's like, yeah, no, I want to go on the beach and drink margaritas and sleep. I'm like, yeah, well, we probably won't go together.
Speaker 1:No, but that's actually. I know that for us Well and in my heart I know it's actually what I need, and it's not necessarily the alcohol. It's that like when you and I'm just going to say this like very in a blanket statement but when you have been in a serious state of fight or fight from what I can tell, from what everyone's telling me you actually start to get more tired when you come out of it than you've ever been in. It's really hard to explain.
Speaker 2:You've been working so hard for so many months.
Speaker 1:Yes, and a lot of things.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Not just the fight or fight. So, there's like this exhaustion that you can't fix by sleeping, and like I really feel that like the onset of that, and so I'm like, okay, how do I just be like a little bit indulgent, because even like sleep for me feels indulgent at this point, cause like my average is like four hours a night. I would die. No, I wanted to die. So that's why I want to go to the beach Right and just like and I mean like sleep in my room, wake up at noon room service, get three hours of sun, go back to sleep, go back down, get drunk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but I want to be like anonymous also. Yeah, but that's a beautiful. I don't think I'm well known, I'm just saying in this town it's a very small town.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, honestly. There was this lady when we were in Jamaica and she had this like platinum blonde hair and she was by herself and she went out there every day in a bikini, tan, lubed up with oil and just laid out there and drank all day and just like the no chain and read books and I was like, oh God, I love her.
Speaker 1:She's my spirit animal.
Speaker 2:I mean I would do it in a heartbeat, but like for where I'm at mentally, like I need the vacation of, I need to hike, I need to yoga, I need to get a little more completely still Like.
Speaker 1:I want like a massage every day. Out on read books yes, but mostly.
Speaker 2:I just love that we're both on, like, the journey of like wanting to do that but doing very different things.
Speaker 1:I think we've been working really hard.
Speaker 2:Yes, we have In. Like my husband, I love you. He was like can I go with you on the strip? It looks amazing, let's go, let's get. No, I don't want to talk to anyone or I don't want to speak. I don't want to make decisions. I don't want to talk about dinner. I don't want to talk about where you're going, what I'm going, what class you're taking, what I'm taking. Why are you going to do this? What are you going to do this with? Oh my God, I need a break and I just need to think about myself.
Speaker 1:I think it's deserved. We have made. Oh my gosh, you guys. It's really hard to understand, like if you're on the outside and I know even like starting a business for a lot of people is really overwhelming, and then like getting a business partner, and then like doing stuff on top of your nine to five, but we make so many decisions on the daily, even just as moms. Yes, the fact that we might possibly need a timeout on year nine is not shocking, cause have you ever done this before? I'm not alone. No, neither. So then, so you haven't?
Speaker 1:No because this is really saying like I actually have to hit pause.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I just I just need a minute, Like I just really need a minute.
Speaker 1:I want to be in time out, like I just want to be in the woods. I want to be in time. You can't find me, I'm the good girl in time out.
Speaker 2:No service, nothing Like you can't find me. What's she eating tonight? Where's your shorts?
Speaker 1:I don't want to be in the woods. Where's she going on the beach? What time she need to be there?
Speaker 2:I don't know, man, I don't know, I don't know. So yeah, we're on the sharny.
Speaker 1:This one says have, can you name the three branches of government? The only reason I'm answering the way we've got this we do, but I want you to. So I was in the car with pilot this weekend. She goes, hey, have you ever heard of that? Like federal guy. And I was like wait, what she was, you know, like I was like the federal government. She goes yes, he's texting me. I was like absolutely not Give me your phone.
Speaker 2:What I haven't been in a lot of text from Nancy Mace lately.
Speaker 1:So, yes, she, now that she can read, she's like the federal government is texting me. Please give me that thing. Block, Isn't it federal legislative judicial? I think it is.
Speaker 2:I didn't think this is going to be like trivial pursuit.
Speaker 1:Have you flown first class in the last two months?
Speaker 2:Yes, I am so, so all right, this is great and great content.
Speaker 1:You've indulged me for my husband, because he thinks I'm so busy.
Speaker 2:I am not having magnets, I'm truly not having the eyelashes in the platinum and I'm not having this, that is not here. That is not how maintenance.
Speaker 1:That is not judging you. That is not how maintenance and if you look, around in our same self care audience, like if you gave us a two mile radius, we're easily on the low maintenance side. Yes, but do you think I'm lower, higher maintenance than you To other people?
Speaker 2:I think you're equitable. Is me? No, I mean you get things done. I mean I'm just saying you get things done, so I think you're equitable, I mean it, things are you talking about saying something, because I would not do that because I'm Southern, but so I am not having a noise.
Speaker 1:No, no, you're saying but, when I travel, what I've done.
Speaker 2:I'm having it and I'm bougie. All that and some of the things I like first class. There is nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1:I've never flown first class.
Speaker 2:Well, don't, because once you do, you'll be like I'm never going back.
Speaker 1:I'm never going back, it's, it's it is absolutely it's it's.
Speaker 2:It's wonderful. It's absolutely wonderful. You get more space and for me, like I'm an anxious flyer anyway We've been through this I like to be closer to the front of the plane. Okay, I like to get off the plane first. Okay, I like to get on the plane first.
Speaker 2:Just something about it in that space, with more, like, closer towards the front of the plane and I don't I know it's stupid because, like, if it crashes, I'm we're all going down, but like, when I'm closer to the front, I'm gonna hug the pilot. Yeah, like I want to talk to him. They like hey, like, peep my head in there, how's it going? Like, how's the weather looking? Like you know all the things and so, yeah. So I like first class. So I am not normally a bougie person. Oh yeah, I'm not normally a bougie person, but when it comes to first class, no, I am. So when I travel, I'm bougie. But in my defense I will say that we only fly together, maybe once a year, maybe. So in the infrequent amount that we travel, how I justify is like, nate, we never do this together. So I want to fly first class.
Speaker 1:I love that, but don't ever do it because you're going to be addicted. Put it on my inch. Have you ever been to Paris, yeah, oh. Milan, no, venice, no, have you?
Speaker 2:been to these places? Yes, have you Tokyo? No, yes, you're so worldly, who knew I?
Speaker 1:love going places.
Speaker 2:No, we've only been like Caribbean I love the Caribbean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, same Like Bahamas. Yes, take me anytime. Yeah, I love that you're so worldly with your family or some, some with school, some with just different like. I have a. There's this town in Italy called Bergamo. It's like amazing, like on the side of the hill. It's so pretty.
Speaker 2:Do you know, before I met Nate, I was about to basically go to Italy to do cooking school.
Speaker 1:Like I was like ready to like leave and go do that, and then you would have been making us the chicken piccata.
Speaker 2:Oh God y'all. The chicken piccata night was like dude. I don't understand that. Don't help me up. I'm not building you up. You're the worst compliment taker ever I actually am. It's just this chicken piccata. So she has this like hack. That would be a TikTok hack if we TikToked, is that a word?
Speaker 1:We don't talk, we don't take.
Speaker 2:Is that a verb?
Speaker 1:Is it? Tell them what you do, Well, so okay, I do a couple of things. The chicken cutlet's a chicken cutlet, but I have a few secrets. You can use them in a lot of things. But before I put it in the oven, to like cook them all the way through, I do like salt, pepper, parm, that's like next level and a little bit of the oil that you just cooked them in. But then when you do the pasta so obviously chicken piccata is like lemon juice based white wine, all the things, but and we just throw a lemon too.
Speaker 2:I juice the lemons.
Speaker 1:But I keep the lemon rind and I don't zest it because I think it's really tricky Like you can get to the white on the lemons. That's really fast in. It's sour. You just drop it in with the pasta after you drain it and you just let it sweat out the essential oil.
Speaker 2:Y'all like, I live for a lemon and like Same. It was so good.
Speaker 1:You gotta let it sweat the lemon.
Speaker 2:It was so like it was so delicious it needs to sweat Like we've. We talk about all these restaurants that we've been to. Had I known that Rebecca cooks the way that she does, I would not have gone to any of these restaurants with you, because-.
Speaker 1:No, you would have. I love going out.
Speaker 2:I know, but the food has sucked every time, I know, but the company's amazing. Well, yeah, but we have that here. Between my charcuterie tonight and her chicken piccata and the cheesecake that we're about to eat, we've had a good time. We've had a good time Some marcona almonds. And the-.
Speaker 1:Marcona, what is the cheese? Bores and cheese yes, and I can't we're on the same page. We're on the same page. We're Bores and Girls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's episode 12. And we're so excited and about all the things that we've talked about and weird stuff and we have some really exciting guests next time here. Yeah, we're really gonna dig in to all these uncomfortable conversations. It's branding we have some really cool guests that have amazing brands.
Speaker 1:We have some guests that are breaking age barriers. Yes, in some pretty cool ways, we have somebody coming in to talk about well, like basically, perimenopause and hormones in your early 40s because that's a tough conversation and she's a bitch. I'm obsessed oh my God, like you just have to but if here's my big thing, and so this is why we're being this honest. If each of us has to get to the start line and we've gotta do the research and figure it out on our own and we don't share it with our friends, we are wasting so much time where we could actually be getting velocity, but we're using that to get to the start line. So we start sharing amongst one another. We can actually build speed and we can get so much further. I'm really big on sharing. I love that Big on sharing. And then we also have people coming in to talk about even marriage and divorce trends.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we really wanna talk about all the things that people don't really talk about, cause it's hard and I think it's great that you're in like a different phase than I am.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I think it's fun.
Speaker 2:And it's kinda like, yeah, it's just different to hear all the stuff and different perspectives and yeah, it's pushing us both to be super, super open in a way that we would not naturally be.
Speaker 1:So that growth alone, I feel like, has like you were saying this the other day where you were, like I felt like everyone was looking at me so I had to make shred pants on.
Speaker 2:No, I genuinely forgot. I thought I forgot them. No, cause I'm so like, inundated with all these other things going around about me, that I'm like. This is the most things.
Speaker 1:You were in the grocery store.
Speaker 2:No, I was. I was in the grocery store and I didn't. Everybody kept staring at me. I was like holy shit, I forgot to put my broaches on. I'm serious, I really thought I did.
Speaker 1:No, new Yorker has ever said broaches, so you're gonna have to write it down. I think I need to use it.
Speaker 2:What do you call your pants? I call them a pants, we call them britches. So yeah, I thought I forgot my britches.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna have to write this down.
Speaker 2:Put that in the tagline.
Speaker 1:But here's my theory, Cause I said to you I have a theory. So, like another weird thing that I do is like I you're don't touch anything, Don't touch anything. We have the microphones figured out Like don't touch anything. So I have this theory about like vibrations and like high vibrations. Do you know? Like this, I know, are you going to the Mark U Mark place?
Speaker 2:Yep, me too, cause you know I was not going to, I was going to my smart place. But go ahead, okay, so I went to the Mark Mark place.
Speaker 1:But there's this whole idea that, like, if you buy when you like, let things go. That holds you down, like you vibrate. On another level it's things like kids pay attention to you, animals pay attention to you, like you. But the other part of that is people will start to like be drawn to you or stare at you or randomly start these like intense conversations.
Speaker 2:So I did have pants on. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1:You did. But I think we're growing Okay and I think, because we're starting to be like we don't care, we don't care, we don't care, we're talking about divorce. We're talking about perimenopause. We're talking about branding. We're saying, okay, your followers are a vanity metric. We're saying, let us help you learn AI. Yeah, but we're really, really throwing it out there on the table. We're like basically taking your person, dumping it upside down in front of the entire world. Oh, okay, we are doing it. Yeah, and people are more like she's a safe place.
Speaker 1:I'm drawn to her Like I want to talk to her. She has my attention, even though there's no good reason why. I do think there's actually something to like that innate sense, like we're in it more, so they're feeling it more.
Speaker 2:But honestly, that's one of the best compliments I could get is that I'm somebody safe place. I love that. I think you are. Oh, thank you, I love that. I hope so.
Speaker 1:Why wouldn't you be? I don't know, I can't imagine, you're not sure. All right, real quick. What's the?
Speaker 2:weirdest thing in your purse, cause you just said that.
Speaker 1:Oh, Fairmont perfume.
Speaker 2:What the hell is that Fairmont perfume? What is that? I bought that on Instagram. Of course you did. You're, like, the most easily influenceable person ever.
Speaker 1:Have you never seen the ads no. Oh, my God Cause.
Speaker 2:Instagram does not care about my fearments.
Speaker 1:No, the ads are so good my stuff is like Costco and like. No, like. There's like one ad where, like she like rolls it on and like they get in the car and like the husband's driving, he like pulls over and he's like just get it. He like rips the car seat out. He's like what is happening right now? Get in the back.
Speaker 2:No, I don't, Shit no.
Speaker 1:I've never Okay, we're just singing your purse Shoot.
Speaker 2:I mean, I feel like anything pales in comparison to like fairmont perfume, I think, maybe like a silver Sharpie.
Speaker 1:Like a paint pen. Yeah, you're going to give me the paint pen of our Fairmont perfume, or maybe like a zip drive with some pictures on it.
Speaker 2:It was like a giraffe. That might be the only two things.
Speaker 1:Wow, so next time you'll go first. Let me tell you, though, it was actually like a buy one, get one free, and I definitely gave one to a friend.
Speaker 2:I'm not judging you.
Speaker 1:You're going to want to wear it. I'm going to make you put it on.
Speaker 2:Rub some on me before I go home tomorrow. Let's just be on that. What are we going to tomorrow? I don't need it. You're not going to care about me. Well, I'm sleeping with you, I just want you to smell it. I like to smell it. Lemon, lemon, chicken piccata.
Speaker 1:You want to smell it? Okay, right here it is. Ooh, we're not even going to read the name.
Speaker 2:No, I'm going to read it.
Speaker 1:No they're not a supporter of us yet. We don't make money. Give me your wrist.
Speaker 2:How is this helping me? Just sniff it. All right, guys, this is pretty good. Well, we're Feremoned and Champagne, tipsy and thrilled. To finish season one of Marketing and Mayhem. Thank you so much for being a loyal listener and being here and a part of it and being part of our crazy. We cheers to you and please join us next season. Love you, guys. Reviews five stars, all the things, yeah, thank you Don't complain, just send us messages if you want us to fix something. Yeah, 100%, don't forget the stars. Bye, okay.