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Debby, Cremation & Ping the Duck
Hosting a kids birthday? We’ve got some tips - adult beverages and don’t be stingy on the slices. We said it. We love celebrating your kiddos but we don’t need to be starved and parched - these parties cost us all a few brain cells - help a girl out.
Septic does Debby, or is it the other way around? If it wasn’t one thing, it’s another. Water is everywhere - from Jenny’s yard to Raebecca’s ceiling, we are drowning in Mount Pleasant. But when does hair washing trump everything else? At what point are you willing to get in your swimsuit and head out into the rain for a hair wash.
We get a little deep into a few personality epiphanies about how people view us. As a retired/ semi retired people pleasers - we dissect the idea that there are people who will think you are the nicest person ever, and in the same breath someone else can view you as the nastiest person ever. And both can be right. The ability to match energy is quickly becoming one of our shared strengths. Even better? When someone thinks that you can think their thoughts.
Somewhere between planning your own funeral and the cremation debate - we navigate the fact that one of us - often starts their convo 30% into their thoughts - leaving the other fairly bewildered at times. And the other is entirely too literal. Which - has its own unique complexities.
This weeks episode lands somewhere between family plots, the lawn mower (yes, our IT guy wants to be left on the front lawn), our favorite Olympic stories - and the incredible impact the women had on this year’s Summer games. This one will leave you in tears - and you better shed them now because Jenny’s not letting it happen at her service.
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Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
Hosting a kids birthday? We’ve got some tips - adult beverages and don’t be stingy on the slices. We said it. We love celebrating your kiddos but we don’t need to be starved and parched - these parties cost us all a few brain cells - help a girl out.
Septic does Debby, or is it the other way around? If it wasn’t one thing, it’s another. Water is everywhere - from Jenny’s yard to Raebecca’s ceiling, we are drowning in Mount Pleasant. But when does hair washing trump everything else? At what point are you willing to get in your swimsuit and head out into the rain for a hair wash.
We get a little deep into a few personality epiphanies about how people view us. As a retired/ semi retired people pleasers - we dissect the idea that there are people who will think you are the nicest person ever, and in the same breath someone else can view you as the nastiest person ever. And both can be right. The ability to match energy is quickly becoming one of our shared strengths. Even better? When someone thinks that you can think their thoughts.
Somewhere between planning your own funeral and the cremation debate - we navigate the fact that one of us - often starts their convo 30% into their thoughts - leaving the other fairly bewildered at times. And the other is entirely too literal. Which - has its own unique complexities.
This weeks episode lands somewhere between family plots, the lawn mower (yes, our IT guy wants to be left on the front lawn), our favorite Olympic stories - and the incredible impact the women had on this year’s Summer games. This one will leave you in tears - and you better shed them now because Jenny’s not letting it happen at her service.
For more mayhem, be sure to follow us:
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And don't forget to leave us a 5 star review! Or message us to deep dive into your topic or just give us feedback!
Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
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Speaker 1:I love when we do them on the weekends, because it's we can have happy hour no, I know I was.
Speaker 2:I went through the drive-thru and I got a diet coke because I knew I was like coming to do this, and then when I saw that you brought a beverage, I was like I need to regroup. Actually, that sounds so much better, doesn't?
Speaker 1:it. I mean because it's like 4.15. It's definitely early enough. You are correct, late enough, late enough.
Speaker 2:I did have a mimosa earlier. I had a beer at a kid's birthday party at lunch today I actually really appreciate when parents do that.
Speaker 2:We are not. But like I told her, the same, I really I have a deep appreciation for the parents who order enough pizza so that the adults can have even one slice. I just think that is very symbolic. I hate when people get about pizza listen, listen. Here you can shove it in your freezer but, like sometimes, my kids will go slice for slice. And I've bought you a nice gift. I'm sweating, I'm helping you corral and set out cupcakes. Please make sure there's a beverage and a slice for me.
Speaker 1:That's all I want. Give me a piece of pizza and a beer. I'm good.
Speaker 2:I'm good, I'm a simple girl.
Speaker 1:We're simple girls. Yeah, we are so, yeah, so we are back after a week of Good Lord, hurricane Debbie here in Charleston.
Speaker 2:Yeah, debbie, does Charleston Bitch be cray?
Speaker 1:That was awful. Debbie did do Charleston. It was just freaking weird because it was so slow, there was so much hype about it, and then it was just boo-koos of rain. It was so slow, there was so much hype about it, and then it was just boo-coos of rain, it was so much rain.
Speaker 2:I think you might have been more hype than I did, because I have somebody who gets anxious about weather, so I did not watch any of the hype.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, becca. So you know, we're on set here at the house, oh, shoot. And when it rains, the shit hits the fan. And when I say that I don't mean that I mean, I mean it literally.
Speaker 2:So we have been unable to grow up on septic. I did grow up on septic. Yeah, I grew up on septic. My parents are still.
Speaker 1:We've had like 14 inches of rain. My yard is like a pool, so we have been unable to shower, wash dishes, do laundry or go poop in my house since Monday. Oh, today is Saturday. What do you mean? You can't go poop? I have to go to my dad's to poop. So we live next door to my dad.
Speaker 2:Thank God, thank God, we do, I know, I know, but like I love that. We talked about farting last week and now we're just starting off with shit.
Speaker 1:But like I I have to poop eight seconds. You bitches on city water. You're like lifestyles of the rich and famous compared to me right now we're.
Speaker 2:so what I've learned is that this apartment is actually on the same electrical grid as Roper Hospital also, so I think that's barely yeah.
Speaker 1:If you ever need electricity or to take a shit, you can always come here, yay, well, trust me, I thought about it so funny. Do you ever? And this is I have to ask you this. So do you wash your hair?
Speaker 2:every day. Have we talked about this? I'm a big hair washer. Yes, I am the opposite of everybody else I'm a big hair washer.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I am not. I am a girl who goes about every four days to wash my hair, and so I did not think very far ahead to wash my hair before the storm rolled through.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's like a big rule for me, even as a daily hair washer. I'm like what happens If Hugo comes through and I have to go this many days without a wash?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah. So I washed my hair the Thursday before the storm, and the storm rolled in on Monday. I'm washed, and so I was like, well, I'm good, like it's fine, like I'm not going anywhere, you know, whatever. Well, all of a sudden and I don't know if the non hair washers are like this, but it's like I'm sitting there and I don't care what time of day it is or what I'm doing, I have to get up and go wash my hair immediately, like it's like the grease.
Speaker 2:No, I'm the same way, even about the daily or buy it like every other daily wash. There will be a moment where I'm like I am disgusting. I'm disgusting, yes, I can't do this anymore. Actually, I have to stop right now and I have to get up. It could be mascara and hair wash. There's a moment where I'm like I am going to flip myself out if I don't get in the shower right now it's like I am. What is universal?
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I want to know. Like I feel like I'm like a crackhead, like I feel like I start like kind of itching in my head and I'm like, oh my God, that's it.
Speaker 1:I have got to wash my hair immediately. So that happened on Tuesday when I was sitting there working Can you shower at your dad's? I could have. I could have, but I was really in the middle of doing something important for work and I was like I don't want to take the time to pack up my little shower caddy, like I'm in college, go down to my dad's. It's monsooning. So let me tell you what my ghetto. I went outside and there's this thing on my pool cover that like squirts the rainwater. It's like a pump that squirts the rainwater off the top of my pool cover. That like squirts the rainwater. It's like a pump that squirts the rainwater off the top of the pool cover like there's a video of this nate did try to pull it off the ring camera because he's, like you look like a fool out there.
Speaker 1:So I took my conditioner and I put a bikini on and I go out there and I'm in the rain, bathing in the water that squirts off of the top of my pool cover and it only water totally.
Speaker 1:But it only squirts off like every couple of minutes. So I'd like lather up and then, and then I would just like stand there and wait for it, so like I'm just standing there in the rain freezing to death, and I'm just like, and then it started squirting. I'm like, oh, let's do a rinse, let's do a rinse, and then I'd wait again. But I better feel good yeah, yeah, so that was my.
Speaker 2:That was my hair wash on on tuesday I will get creative about water usage for sure, like I'm one of those people I just can't you should because you don't pay your bill. I did, I paid all of it. I keep thinking about that, like how every email just came and it was like yes, and I was like ew, no, like my Wednesday Addams. Well, you know what actually is really weird for me? I was saying this to somebody the other day. This is a random thought, but they were like you are so nice, like you're one of the nicest people I know, and I was like that is such an interesting thought because I know that there are people who think I am the nastiest bitch that they've ever come across. And you guys are both right, I will meet your energy, I will.
Speaker 2:I will match you, and so I was like that's a compliment to you. Like cause, I like being in your presence, and so I was like that's a compliment to you. Like, cause, I like being in your presence. I don't feel the need to like, and I'm not one of those people who, like acts fake, what I will do is put up walls. We've been in conversations where I just like almost I'll walk away. I won't even like I have. There've been moments where you and I are doing something and I've like wandered off and been like, yeah, you're a wanderer. Yeah, I've like wandered off and been like, yeah, you're a wanderer. Yeah, especially if like and it's not about cannot capturing my attention if you have something that feels not good to me, I won't. I just can't give you space. I don't know what my problem is. So I will like peace out on accident, and then you'll come over and I'll be like you were doing great work.
Speaker 1:You're like we gotta talk about my favorite text that you sent me. One of the my favorite that you sent was yesterday. Oh my god, I know what you're gonna tango it about one subject and then you're going out of town, and so I replied back when are you leaving? It was, and wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Can I give you my side? Let's go play by play. You said it. I was in a restaurant and I was actually getting up. So there was like a moment where I was like like Jenny, like are you here with me? It was like the weirdest. I was like I'm leaving right now, I can be home in five.
Speaker 2:Like I was so confused because you do this thing to me a lot. It is borderline wild sometimes because I am the most literal person and it is on purpose. But like you can't tell me to do something If you're like being funny, like unless I'm with you and I understand your energy, which especially doesn't portray over text properly. Weird, like to a fault, weirdly you are, you really are. I don't know why I don't do you know that I also didn't understand this until in the last four years, but here's why I know this my niece, rowan, is actually more literal than me, so when we are together I watch her. I'm like what the fuck? And then, but my sister-in-law, christina's like that, you're what? And I'm like that seems extreme. That's just you. Like you're just at year 41 of the exact same thing.
Speaker 1:So Becca responds to me and she was like sometimes you start conversations Like I'm there talking with you, Like I know where your head is. I'm like do you not? Like what is it?
Speaker 2:I don't understand you, literally invite me into a conversation and you've already had 33% of it and I'm like there are times where I'm like I'm going to have to ask her what she's talking about and you do switch gears, so like you'll be in a conversation about one thing really quickly. Yeah, yeah, like I can switch gears fast. I just need to know that you did that because you will be in a different context, and then you'll say like something completely random, like I and you know I have to work to follow anyways. So I'm like you, you do push me back into my like ADHD. I'm like wait what I'm leaving right now and you're like no, for the funeral.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh damn, I don't know, I do it with Nate too. I'm like what did you not hear the first half of the conversation? In my head, in your head?
Speaker 2:in your head. And then there was a part where I was like, waiting for you to be, like, do you need me to book your plane tickets? I was. I was half amazed that Whitney didn't do it for me last night either. I'm like is no one going to ask me to book my plane tickets for me, which you know I wouldn't be able to handle?
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, every day of my life.
Speaker 2:That got me tickled yesterday. It was hysterical. I was like I'm leaving right now. You're like we're in New York, we have a dinner plan, we have a meeting on Wednesday. I'm like I can leave in five, like I don't know my. But I'm also a very responsive person for people I love, so when you're like are you leaving?
Speaker 1:I'm like, do you need me? I was like no, I'm just like when are you going out of town?
Speaker 2:You're like was like. I actually have no idea.
Speaker 1:It's this week coming up I got real tickled about that.
Speaker 2:I got real, real tickled I am like so stressed about going out of town and then part of me like half of me is so excited and I'm so conflicted about this trip.
Speaker 1:But it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2:It's gonna be fun it's just like we have the apartment stuff going on and, like I, the girls are at matt's, so that's great, but it's like I have fun, it's going to be fun. It's just like we have the apartment stuff going on and, like I, the girls are at Matt's, so that's great, but it's like I have a dog sitter. Then I have this apartment drama and it's a funeral for my uncle, which sucks, and but I like seeing my that side of my family. I feel like I only see them for funerals lately, but I don't know, that's depressing. Well, my, yeah, it's one of those things. My grandmother passed away not that long ago, so I feel like I just I guess it was like a year, maybe two years, I guess I don't know but okay, have you thought about your funeral.
Speaker 1:Is this weird to ask, as you were talking about funerals?
Speaker 2:Maybe not. Do you think about your funeral?
Speaker 1:Yes, a hundred percent, like I have mine, like planned.
Speaker 2:Do you have it with your? Do you actually have it planned? Yeah, because my attorney told me to. That seems like a really big commitment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, because I feel like the things, because it's like you know, do you want readings and like songs, and I'm like you know that answer may vary now, really Okay, I have a question for you, because you are such a control freak. No, not at all. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:I mean, isn't there a part where people have to express themselves appropriately, to work through their grief about how much they loved you and losing you? Do you really need to control that?
Speaker 1:No, because I don't want it to be some sad affair. I had a great little life. I don't want people sitting around listening to sad music.
Speaker 2:They're allowed to cry do you want me to sing what you think I'm dying before you because I'm older? What the hell, if I get a chance to sing, do you want me to karaoke in my like?
Speaker 1:90s. Would you do time of my life?
Speaker 2:can I? Okay, sure, should I put that in my notes. Can I lift your earn up? Are you getting cremated or it's probably really fucked up? I'm sorry if that was no, I am getting cremated.
Speaker 1:I don't want to be in a box. I mean I'll be dead and all, but I don't want to be in a box yeah, I'm a big cremator.
Speaker 2:We, um, do you wait a minute? Can we take another side?
Speaker 1:this is a really weird conversation.
Speaker 2:Did you see my stories yesterday?
Speaker 1:I will be honest with you. I have not been on social much Viewing.
Speaker 2:I've been posting but not viewing Same. I do this a lot, so yesterday I promised Summit that we would go and pick up our cat. Our cat is deceased. He was committed, so I've been saying we would go together. First of all, I love my mom.
Speaker 2:My mom is so dark about some of this stuff. So she's like oh my, it took so long for them to get her processed. I'm like mom, no, it's been since march. I just have been avoiding doing this because I don't really want to go and pick up the cat, right, my daughter loves the cat. She's been very sad about the cat.
Speaker 2:I said we would go together, we go together, we have to do shopping after we have like some errands. And she's like well, we can't leave her in the car. And I'm like, to be honest, that seems really fair. She is in a gift bag inside of a little urn, so going around Hobby Lobby, yeah. And so then I sent the picture to my sister-in-law, first Christina, because you know I'm like am I going to pay for this later in therapy, like is she going to be all right? And she's like I mean, is there any particular reason that the cat's in a gift bag?
Speaker 2:And I was like, which I hadn't really considered much, because it just seemed appropriate. I was like that's how they gave her to us. Okay, all right, fair enough, and then gonna go all right. And then the whole time she's talking about it. So it's clear that we have our dead cat with us. I mean, she's like don't you just feel sad, don't you? So she was furry. Can you open that jar back up? Can I look at her again and it's like creamy oh, they said don't do you know, my god, when we got the dog's inside their teeth might be in there.
Speaker 2:Oh no, we already opened it up. There might be teeth. There's some pretty sketchy stuff in there. We did not look real close, but there's definitely like bone fragment. It was loose.
Speaker 1:If you had to dump your ashes? Are you a cremator or a barrier?
Speaker 2:Personally, or like on different sides of my family, I don't think we're going to be able to dump boots. She wants to keep boots.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, what are you? What do you say, like, are you going to be cremated or buried?
Speaker 2:Um, I will probably be cremated. I'll probably like let myself get like a little divvied up for science or something.
Speaker 1:Well, totally yeah.
Speaker 2:Like take my parts, but like where would you want to be spread somewhere? Um, this is god. I was like in a sexual way, sure, but in a non-sexual way, no, I don't think so. Actually, I, we have like a family, um thing. Oh, a mausoleum, you know what? They're called it's not quite like that, but there it is like a wall with like plaques and all the things.
Speaker 2:Yes, we have like a very fancy I don't think it's that fancy, but we definitely have like a place where the family goes. Okay, family, it's very new york. It is in new york actually. It's in bestsell, it's in binghamton okay nate says that he wants to be.
Speaker 1:he wants to be like spread, like in the ocean, or like on the lawnmower, like he wants me to like drive around the the ocean or like on the lawnmower. Like he wants me to like drive around the lawn and like sprinkle his ashes, cause you know, he loves gun grass.
Speaker 2:When you said the lawnmower, for a second I was like, um, have we thought this through? Like what? I saw this thing a commercial for one of those shows where people eat weird things and the wife was like licking her finger and dipping it in her husband's ashes three times a day.
Speaker 1:Stop it right now.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I swear to God, that's disgusting.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's healthy.
Speaker 2:No, it was. She was. It was like a grief issue, but she was like I, you know. It was like I eat, you know weird things, I eat, or whatever, and she was like I'm eating my husband's ashes and immediately my first. I was like what happens when they run out?
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm really concerned about that. Nate says he thinks I want to be. He just was going to sprinkle me around Target.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Remember the other day when I was like I couldn't remember something that I had said to you at Target, but we were together. It hit me what it was later. It was the fact that I hadn't been to Target in like five months.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's what it was it was how many times y'all go to target. I go to target at least two to three times a week, so I'm gonna need it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love target I love target when I go. I just don't. Really I'm a big amazon girl, but like I don't know, I don't know why I don't go more. I guess it's like therapeutic.
Speaker 1:It's something about the life.
Speaker 1:I just I walk around and I mean inevitably I buy something because you know it's Target, but yeah, so, yeah, nate thinks I want to be sprinkled around Target. Yeah. So back to Debbie. I wanted to talk about one thing. So we were I mean, we did not have some John for like five days. It was gloomy and rainy and icky here. It felt awful, yeah, it felt awful. So now Nate's like like sick and so I told him. I said it's because you have not gotten any vitamin D this week.
Speaker 1:And he's like he's like yeah, he's upstairs Like he's been sleeping like all day. Yeah, that sucks. So I think it's the vitamin D, is the lack of vitamin D. So, like we no, I'm here, okay, we need the sunshine of vitamin D. So, like no, I'm here, okay, we need the sunshine.
Speaker 2:No, we absolutely do. We absolutely need the sunshine. I'm not okay without it. First of all, I have I'm pasty as heck just from like having no one week of like absolutely no sun. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. I feel like a cross between like a marshmallow and a mushroom.
Speaker 1:I feel like a cross between a marshmallow and a mushroom.
Speaker 2:This is probably the widest I've been summer-wise in years. Yeah, no, it feels awful, it feels disgusting. It's making me feel like 10 pounds heavier. I'm not happy about it. You're crazy, you're not.
Speaker 1:I'm closing out all my things to make sure I'm not happy about it. You're crazy, you're not? I'm closing out all my things. Make sure I'm not on the internet pulling.
Speaker 2:So she told me we're pausing here. Yeah, you, I think I'm fine. Um, somebody also did. I got a couple compliments last week. Somebody also said our sound quality is really good right now and I was like we have grown a lot, we've learned a lot, we have.
Speaker 1:We're still learning.
Speaker 2:You know what I wanted to talk to you about. I so I know that I've been watching the Olympics and it hasn't been like. This is probably why you had a better idea of what was happening with Debbie Cause. I have been in the throes of the Olympics like love stories, people cheering people on all of it, like I have just been living for it. Whether it's pummel horse guy, simone Biles, I have been obsessed with how incredible the women have been, and then also, in general, the mental health conversations that are coming out of the Olympics right now.
Speaker 1:I'm I've been following some of that in all the reels and stuff about the Olympics. I just haven't actually watched the Olympics.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, it's been so good I'll watch almost. I'm not going to say what I won't watch because there's I'm not trying to offend anyone, but the majority of sports, like if there's a track thing obsessed, like I will never get over how fast these people are. I do not understand it. I would have upchuck doing that for three meters, much less 400.
Speaker 1:I would have blown my knee out. My legs those people's legs look like they're about to fly off their body.
Speaker 2:But the way that they can do it almost like a horse, like an actual animal, that when push comes to shove and that much is on the line. And you're not talking like gymnastics, where it's about like skill, you're full on, just a speed demon. And there comes a part where I just have to imagine, even for swimming, how much more are you pulling? Where are you pulling this from? I don't understand when they like, pull ahead just a little bit Toes to like the tippy tippy top of your head.
Speaker 1:Where do they pull that like? I don't understand. It's badass, it's badass.
Speaker 2:There's I don't want to mess up their name. So the mental health conversation. There's been a lot of things about, even, um, the doctor that the gymnastics team has right now. It's just so amazing. They have her like playing Uno in the back with the athletes big hugs, big smiles. I mean you can just tell that like gosh, whatever happened there which we won't unpack, um, but that is just like that was awful. And those girls have such an incredible like doctor on their team right now. It's amazing to watch. But there was it's this Tara and Hunter couple. Have you heard about these?
Speaker 1:Is this a sweet man reading for his wife? Yeah, he's the pair. He's a Paralympic.
Speaker 2:Is this a sweet man rooting for his wife? Yeah, he's a Paralympic. I cannot. He's got his Team Tara t-shirt, so he's going to compete next week in the Paralympics they are.
Speaker 2:She has to visit the long jump. I can't. And his excitement over like I'm just like this is and of course I'm very much in this couple's goals or what green flags for relationships kind of situation. Anyways, that's so much a part of my journey right now, but I cannot get over it. He's pep-talking her before. The way she's just looking at him. She's completely dialed in, completely focused, like there's nobody else there, right, and what he says is what's going to make the difference. Like this is the only person she needs to hear right now, and then it happens. And like her win is his win. I mean, he's out of his mind.
Speaker 1:I just, oh, I love like he has like tears in his eyes which made me have tears in my eyes I was. It was incredible, absolutely incredible. I I just love them they are.
Speaker 2:I know there's been a couple like that where I'm just like there was the French is she a runner or a high jumper? She proposed to her husband after she, like did hit a world. I'm just like, I mean, I, you know, it's France, so I feel like, if that, if I don't know, I guess I, there's a part of me that's like, of course, like the very traditional part of me is like, oh well, you know why? Why couldn't he have done that in that moment? But I also know that sometimes, if something's really important to me, I hate this idea of waiting for the other person to come to the table. If, like, whether it's the I love you or whatever it is like I just don't. Why are we playing games?
Speaker 2:I'm very much the anti games person. So, like, if it's in your heart and it's that important to you, instead of playing the game of like do it, do it, do it. You know, like the girls are, like you have until the end of the year, or it has to be this many carrots, or like the I can't stand the games.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, or it has to be this many carrots, or like I can't stand the games. Yeah, not a huge fan of that.
Speaker 2:No, love games are just not for me. So at first I was like I wish he had done that for her. But then I was like you know what, I bet that was really important for her, to him, and I bet that felt really good and not. I mean, you can take it how you want, but I don't know. I think she was proud to do that. I mean you can take it how you want, but I don't know, I think she was proud to do that. So that is enough for me. Yeah, I get that. I don't know. I love all the love stories. I love Simone and her husband. They took some heat because he was wearing her gold medal around. I was like of course he was. Where is she going to leave it? The man's giant in the football player, I don't want to get a flicking life man.
Speaker 2:I know that's exactly where I would hang my gold medal on a giant football player. Cause that thing, save us. Heck, I know. Just get over it, I'm loving the hair and the nails too. I'm going to be honest. I love that the girls are showing up Like the girls are beautiful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like they're like fun. And again I'm going through reels in my Olympics for my Olympics coverage, which is all I got the two girls bowing down to the winner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was Simone and Suni, wasn't it, suni?
Speaker 1:I mean, that is like that's what got me. Like that part was really telling and I think for you and I especially, where we are in our journey with all the things, where we're surrounding ourselves with all these incredible women.
Speaker 2:I don't know, it just really spoke to me.
Speaker 1:I'm getting choked up just thinking about it.
Speaker 2:It was just it was so awesome. Her name is Rebecca. She's from Brazil.
Speaker 2:I believe she is the only gold medal that Brazil's taking home. Oh, wow, yep. And so like I could be wrong about that, but I'm actually, I think at that point in the games she was their only gold medal. She's amazing. So she also doesn't speak English.
Speaker 2:So all of the communication that you saw because they were constantly like high-fiving hugging there was a ton of hype was was literally all physical, because I've read this thing the other day that was like they're not speaking the same language.
Speaker 2:So when they got up I think it was Suni, was the other girl, I'm not exactly sure but when they got up, suni was like we should bow and Simone was like yeah, let's do it. And then you know that you can see them doing that, and she was so full of joy and they were so full of joy for her. It gives me such chills. I'm just like I will never get over this idea of like there is enough room at my table, if you understand what it means, if you can move quickly through this, if you can support women, like there's always room at my table. If you're not that, if you're the person where I walk away because you to me, feel dangerous in a bad way, like I mean, I guess I could be wrong, but it's just not for me. But that energy I am, so here for it right now.
Speaker 1:I love it, I love it, I love the energy, and I don't. This is when we were in line at Universal, my dad, there was a girl in front of me and, like her tag was sticking out and I like tucked it because I mean, it was a ginormous tag I don't know what kind of, but it was a huge one and I tapped her. I was like, hey, I'm going to tuck your tag in for you. And I did it. And then, like an hour later, I was in line again and a girl's book bag was open and I was like, hey, I'm going to close your book bag for you. And my dad was like what are you doing? Like doing this for all these random women? I'm like that's what we do for each other, that's what we do.
Speaker 2:I had a mom that came to me. We did some back to school shopping today up in old Navy and I was in the back with the girls and she was like hey, I had my arms full of nonsense. And she was like I just did a return and they didn't make me return my fast cash. And I feel like you look like you could really use some. And she like gave me her fast cash. I was like I saved that. I know I saved 40 bucks. She's like I don't know why they didn't make me return it and I asked them shouldn't I give this back? And they were like no, don't worry about it, you can use it. And so then I was like sweet, that was super nice, I know, right, I live for that.
Speaker 1:Girl power man, I'm here for it.
Speaker 2:We've got some really cool people Speaking of girl power.
Speaker 1:I was about to say it. Can I grab a beer? Hang on, can you pause?
Speaker 2:for a moment. Yeah, go grab a beer. I'll hype it up a little bit without saying names, but we have entertained you guys all summer with a lot of our stuff and, while I know you love hearing our voices, we have been absolutely teeing up some really incredible guests for the fall and, I feel like, the summer, because we had to be so flexible. We were really careful not to invite guests into that level of flexibility. It just didn't feel appropriate or professional. We barely showed up. No, I know, and we did great, but like we couldn't bring the guests into that. But because we're heading into the school year and we can plan around stuff, we literally have them on the calendar teed up. I can knock it over our guest list.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited. So we have our first one on Monday, yep Two days and we're so excited about I'm just I'm thrilled. I can't wait to talk to some of these incredible women.
Speaker 2:We won't say who they are, but let's talk about some of the things that they're bringing to the table. So we won't even say who Monday is. Let's just like we'll just give you I don't want to say anything, I think we should just say some teaser. So, like one thing you need to do, y'all need to take the Enneagram test. Yes, jenny found a free one. We're going to link it. We might even put it in the profile. We'll do our best to give it to you. You already know a neogram, then you probably love it. You're going to be out of your mind for this one. This is going to be exciting. Um, branding, yep, our soup, like we do branding, but branding isn't necessarily our main niche. This is like branding. Bow down on the podium to Rebecca from Brazil Standard.
Speaker 1:Yes, and she also has a podcast that she just started. Yes, and she's a badass web designer. So all of them we are so excited we're going to start getting into more of some of these marketing conversations because it's been mayhem pretty much all summer, so we're really excited to have her.
Speaker 2:We have another marketing professional. We actually have two marketing One's a team kind of and one's a professional coming. We teased it a little bit on our social media as far as Queefgate, but I'll.
Speaker 1:We still need to link the poll about do women fart for their significant others?
Speaker 2:So I started teeing it up yesterday by asking them the initial question.
Speaker 1:Okay, Because I'm like we got to there's social media where I'm asking for opinions.
Speaker 2:But we take what was just a conversation about farting as a couple even further and we bring in somebody who's so much like us but she has the world's most embarrassing queef story. I'll never get over it. It was a professional setting. It did not. I would die Did you see it's in her highlight. She said oops.
Speaker 1:I would have died. I would have died, just to be clear, but you can't. Yeah, I don't know she went back like that was what was all right, we'll talk about it later. You had to.
Speaker 2:she had to. We we have an influencer coming on, an influencer turned book writer, so that should be really exciting. Yeah, we're thinking about some others.
Speaker 1:So we're going to be a heavy, heavy guest lineup as we transition into the first year anniversary of Marketing and Mayhem.
Speaker 2:I know it's crazy and I'll say this too If you have something that's on your mind, on your heart, or if you're a listener and there's something where you feel like you could even contribute, like I think you should reach out. I know we really want to talk to somebody about hormones. Yeah, we're still working on that one.
Speaker 1:That and perimenopause.
Speaker 2:Lord bless Yep Hormones and perimenopause and that whole journey. And as tough as that is, I would just love that door to be even more wide open, because every time I talk about it, there's somebody who's been completely left behind and is trying to figure this out with over the counter or just cooling sheets. And I'm going to tell you right now you need way more than that. You need Don't be knocking my cooling sheets through the sheet. Well, I'm just saying you did that. I won't even tell why that happened. That had nothing to do with perimenopause. That was a travel situation. It was we love our family. They're bomb now. That's different. But this is like. We do really need a leader to walk us through this and we have somebody that we love. But I understand the idea of getting on a podcast and talking about some of these things can be really intimidating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if anybody has any guest recommendations, I think that would be amazing. Yeah, and I'm still trying to get somebody from McDonald's. I'm determined to get somebody from McDonald's, determined.
Speaker 2:We need somebody from McDonald's. Determined, we need somebody from McDonald's. I feel like we have like a couple other things where we're like, okay, these are our top tier, like if we could have, we've got a little bit of a list.
Speaker 1:I know I do. I definitely personally do yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I learned the other day. This is going to be. You're going to find this interesting because I was watching the Olympics and I was thinking about Ralph Lauren, like Polo, ralph Lauren and how they always get the outfits and they get like they've had that, you know, like spot forever for the dressing the Olympians. This is not about Polo, this is about Nike. So this one's really interesting. Did you know that the Nike logo was created by a student? Yeah, no, they paid. She was a student in college in Portland. They paid her $35 and it's based off of the Greek. It's one of the Greek goddesses. Hold on, I think I took a screenshot. I was, I was floored, so they ended up okay.
Speaker 2:The Nike logo, known as the swoosh, was designed by Carolyn Davidson in 1971. She was a graphic design student at Portland state university and created the logo while working for Nike's co-founder, phil Knight. The design represents the wing of the Greek goddess Nike, the goddess of victory. Davidson was initially paid $35 for her work and she later received shares in the company as a token of appreciation. Wow, isn't that from a market? I totally forgot that. I had saved this to tell you that's badass. Yeah, isn't that just wild. Yeah, it blew my mind and it's the simplest logo too. That's exactly what I was going to say. My favorite logos are just like because that's the point, right, it's for your eye to visually recognize this, and we all work in industries where I get it. Teams come and they're married to it and it's got to be three sunflowers because there's three sisters. I get it, but there is something to be said for really simple visual like cues I love it I love simple.
Speaker 2:It always makes me think of the hershey kiss commercial for christmas. That's been around for like 50 years or god knows what my fave that the cadbury bunny.
Speaker 1:I love that everybody.
Speaker 2:I don't know I barely eat sugar, but I will eat at least three Cadbury eggs during the Easter season. I will get sick off Cadbury eggs.
Speaker 1:But like the ones with, like the egg yolk thing in them. Yeah, the big fat boys.
Speaker 2:Bullets oh live for it. Solid gold.
Speaker 1:It's a hard pass for me. Hard pass, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:It takes me back and I'm just like I'm going to go into a coma after this. This is so good Easter candy.
Speaker 1:We've had this conversation. That's the top tier. The top tier, like best candy that there is. I'll say this you can't fight it.
Speaker 2:You can't. And the Easter M&Ms and the Christmas M&Ms are just different. I don't know why that is. They're different than regular.
Speaker 1:They're like meltier.
Speaker 2:But they're just like the shell is better, the sheen is better, something about it. Yeah, christmas is out of control at Hobby Lobby. I know I took my dead cat there, but it looks beautiful I went in to pick.
Speaker 1:I framed a picture there and it is. Christmas has come to Hobby Lobby. Won't be long, girl, it's all right. I still got my Christmas centerpiece up. I am ready. It is August 10th and she's still kicking.
Speaker 2:I just don't have the energy. I don't have the energy. I think I actually have video footage from that when we were at your house. More so I might have to make a reel of your In and out. Yep, no, she's still there. Is that the only piece of Christmas is up?
Speaker 1:yeah, I think so. We finally took the tree down in Clark's room.
Speaker 2:It was making me crazy it does feel like kind of crazy, but like you take it you go really far. So like you even change out your pictures in the bathroom to be like Christmas pictures.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't play. I don't play yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I know I love that. I'm like a minimalist about Christmas. Even though I love Christmas, I do like the big tree and I'm like the big village, but then I don't.
Speaker 1:I'm a minimalist anyway, I actually had that thought. You know, we finally got the couch and, oh, it's amazing, we love it, it's great, but like we were. So that then led to me saying I want to redo the living room in true jenny fashion, and so that was my project. Last sunday. It was like, oh, let's take the day and stay on the couch. And it was like, no, let's patch all these holes, take stuff down, replace this, buy a new lamp, whatever it's just very interesting because there is actually a Christmas centerpiece in your dining room.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:But this was so important.
Speaker 1:Yes, correct. No, I understand. As I was redoing the living room, I was like you were in the back of my mind, because I feel like less is more at your place. Yeah, and I feel like I love that, because we have shit everywhere and so I'm trying to. You're influencing me to be a minimalist.
Speaker 2:What I love is that you actually recognize that part of me, because I think sometimes when people walk in and they see the wallpaper, they misunderstand that I actually am a minimalist, because it seems like the visual cues are heavy, but they're not heavy like things. No, I know, but I feel like people miss that a little bit.
Speaker 1:No, I definitely. I mean, I did not. You are a creative. You pick a piece and then go around it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or if something really inspires me, like I got a new picture frame the other day. I went to Target. Finally.
Speaker 1:Yay.
Speaker 2:The cutest little gold brass picture frame, and I have that brass, I think.
Speaker 1:I bought it too. I literally bought it yesterday. I'm obsessed with it. Is it like the floating frame.
Speaker 2:No, but it's on like a little bit of a pedestal.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I didn't buy that one then I'll send you a picture of mine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll send you a picture of mine, we'll share them. So I randomly was like, oh my gosh, that would look so good with my unicorn, which now that I'm saying it sounds a little wild. But I do have a unicorn that my very best friend that I grew up with, sarah, gifted to me for my birthday this year. She's like I saw it. It's like almost looks like a bookend she's like, and I was like I have to get this for her. So she like mailed this heavy unicorn. It sits next to my stove and I was like, damn, this would look so good with my unicorn.
Speaker 2:But it made me get out my picture bin and we went through all like like I went through a bunch of old photos like of my pets growing up, because I had ducks growing up and I had all these dogs and stuff that's cute. Yeah, well, the duck was a cripple. You know, my mom works at the vet hospital. She's a vet tech. I didn't know that, sandy.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that about Sandy Like't know that about Sandy.
Speaker 2:We grew up in a small farming town, basically on Lake Ontario. My mom is a vet tech. The owner of the vet hospital is one of her very closest friends. I was the nanny for him and his wife actually was an Olympian. She was an Olympic gold medalist in winter sport. Winter sport yeah, that was an interesting story. I was their nanny for like a little bit. It's like a whole. My mom and him started this entire breeding program with one of the big Ivy League schools in New York and they've just done amazing things. But I grew up at the vet hospital. We would always go if there was puppies or if know C-sections on the weekend, all the fun stuff. Oh my gosh, I had no idea. Well, because now there's all these rules, of course, but like when I was little, they would just toss you a puppy inside of a little thing and your job was to like go as fast and hard as you can.
Speaker 2:So it's all this stuff out of its nose and like we grew up doing stuff like that or like going to like friends. How I remember one thanksgiving. I sat on our other friend's floor with my mom almost the entire night because her golden retriever was having puppies and it was thanksgiving well, no wonder you're such an animal lover all kinds of so.
Speaker 2:Somebody brought in a duck that had been hit by a snowplow and one arm was like this, so we had him. His name was ping forever. He lived in a laundry basket. What was his name? Ping p-i-n-g. There's a book.
Speaker 2:No, it's a children's book oh, I thought it was like chinese food no, I think the children's book is about chinese ducks, but it's not about food. Okay, um, but he has. He could only go in circles because his one arm was literally like just I swear on my life, jenny, my childhood was wild, so like we would you know when you you know when you've been married to somebody for a while and it's like I keep finding things about this person that I never.
Speaker 2:I never knew about ping the duck well, he lived in a laundry basket and we would like change out his stuff all the time and like we would take him outside to a pool. We had a little pool in our garden, like a blue pool. You had to sit with him or the hawks would try to get him, because he was, oh my god, so you had to like be out there. When he was swimming in circles, he needed exercise, but like the hawks would try to get him, so so you had to be there.
Speaker 1:It's a true story. I don't even like, uh, if I thought I'm trying really hard not to get giggles turned on right now, cause I know as soon as I start I'm not going to be able to stop, but I'm, my eyes are watering. I'm about to just like wet my face.
Speaker 2:No, I found I. So I found pictures of ping. She's like so cute. All right, we're going to have to post that.
Speaker 1:We're going to have to post the picture of Ping.
Speaker 2:I mean, we had so many pets, Like my mom was the kind of mom where, like you could bring just about anything home, Like there was a I don't remember kind of one of those brown birds that like a sparrow I don't think it's a sparrow, One of the just general like brown birds. We found it when it was really little and we would feed it cat food out of the little things and it like got all fat and like hung around the house for an entire summer, like once we let it free it stayed close to the back porch for like an entire summer. My mom would nurse anything back to health and she would tell you like I don't think this one's gonna make it, but let's give it a shot. Oh, she's the queen of rescuing stuff. Oh, I love that they have a little.
Speaker 2:So my dog Billy was my French bulldog was the beginning of part of the breeding program at this vet hospital. Like that's when they started showing them and anyways they had puppies like eight weeks ago and one of them had a cleft palate and typically those you don't necessarily like. Usually those are euthanized, right, If there's like a big issue. No, they found a home for it. One of the workers has it His name's Guppy. They fixed his little guppy as much as they could. I can't. My mom sends me videos and stuff. All the. It's the cutest dog you've ever seen in your life with this little guppy thing, and like I cannot, Yep Guppy.
Speaker 1:Oh gracious.
Speaker 2:Her big thing is like never name a dog lucky or chance, like let's just stay away from notes. She's like don't do that. Those are, like her only things.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I can't wait to meet your mama.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I know It'll be fun. She's actually retiring in November.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's exciting. Yeah, my mom did that last May.
Speaker 2:It will be good. My mom works a lot so I'll be curious to see if she actually like fully retires or if she retires and then goes back part-time. But I really like her to just retire.
Speaker 1:Yes, sandy, we're rooting for you.
Speaker 2:She's got like 9,000 hobbies, no big shock.
Speaker 1:No, that's another episode, I know right. So we started with poop and we're ending at Guppy the Bulldog.
Speaker 2:I know Well, actually that's not where we're ending Real quick.
Speaker 1:I just sent you a text message, oh sorry, yes. The Gritty Gal Marketing website is live as of today. And it literally happened as we were on this podcast. Cheers, oh my God. Hallelujah, praise the Lord.
Speaker 2:I know I'm so excited for this fall. It's like we have the podcast guests. We have some really interesting clients we're entertaining right now for Gritty Gal. I feel like we're getting very close to this one year of both and like really good things are happening.
Speaker 1:Yes, they've been a long time coming, but all good things. It takes some time to kind of find your groove. I think we are in our groove.
Speaker 2:Well, I think that's one of the points of even the Queef Queen coming on. I mean, she's had two failed businesses and then one very successful, and I just think I don't think this is going to fail at all because of who we are. But I think the idea that you wake up one day and you make a decision to do it, that seems like a really big decision and it feels like very heavy and you take it seriously. But then you kind of wake up the next day and you're like, okay, now what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Now you just and I feel like that's what it's just been. It's just, we just do. It's just, we just do. It's like we get clients, we just start working. It takes a few months to get a website going. We just do it and just keep on. We just keep on, keeping on. I mean, that's really what we've been doing.
Speaker 2:Yep, no-transcript our favorite about it but we're really good about being like. We learned this. Yes, we learned this about ourselves. Or we learned this about client communication, or we learned this about who we like to work with and what makes us feel successful. We're definitely taking it all very seriously, but we're having a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:I would have it no other way. I know I love it. Cheers Proud of us, cheers Me too. So everybody go to the website. Give me like a week or two before you add feedback, because my heart probably couldn't handle it right now because it has been a long time. But after about two weeks I will happily accept feedback feedback, share who we are.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you, if you're in conversations, listen, one of my favorite things to do is talk about the women and the men that I know that are business owners when I'm in a conversation and they are such a good fit and those are my favorite people to work with or purchase from or spend my money with, so, like, do us the same favor. I just I can't tell you how much it means to us to go and work with somebody that you already know or you already trust, or a project you're already excited about, because that just gets us. I mean, we go right from start line to like level 10, when we know that we're investing our time and space into something that's near and dear to you guys. I just think we work from the heart a lot. I think that's a lot of what grit is.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, which is why it's Gritty Gal.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:All right, 50 minutes. It was a long one today, but thank y'all so much for tuning in and we are so excited. I guess what our first guest will be like. The next episode, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1:This airs on. Thursday the 15th, so we have a mystery guest next week. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we're having dinner with her first, which is like so exciting for me.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:Love the snacks.
Speaker 1:All right. Thanks everybody for tuning in and we will see you next week.