Things You Should Know
Triple Threat
Ever wondered about the vibrant culture that surrounds women's basketball? Join us on the Things You Should Know podcast as we welcome Philly's own Kelly Wilson, who shares her firsthand experiences with the passionate WNBA fan bases. Kelly also gives us a glimpse into her personal life by recounting a touching moment at her godkids' kindergarten graduation, reflecting on how quickly children grow and the passage of time for adults. We dive into the excitement and enthusiasm of the WNBA, celebrating cities like Las Vegas, Connecticut, Seattle, and New York that boast some of the most dedicated fans.
The episode takes an in-depth look at the intricate dynamics of women's basketball. We spotlight influential figures like Candace Parker and discuss the raw competitiveness and unique appeal of the WNBA, contrasting it against the sexism and racism that often taints sports media coverage. Debunking the myth that the league needs a single superstar to gain attention, we emphasize the excellence and engaging drama that make the WNBA a must-watch. From team dynamics to personal relationships akin to reality TV drama, discover why this league offers much more than a game. Tune in for a celebration of the WNBA's quality and the compelling stories of its athletes.
Ever wondered about the vibrant culture that surrounds women's basketball? Join us on the Things You Should Know podcast as we welcome Philly's own Kelly Wilson, who shares her firsthand experiences with the passionate WNBA fan bases. Kelly also gives us a glimpse into her personal life by recounting a touching moment at her godkids' kindergarten graduation, reflecting on how quickly children grow and the passage of time for adults. We dive into the excitement and enthusiasm of the WNBA, celebrating cities like Las Vegas, Connecticut, Seattle, and New York that boast some of the most dedicated fans.
The episode takes an in-depth look at the intricate dynamics of women's basketball. We spotlight influential figures like Candace Parker and discuss the raw competitiveness and unique appeal of the WNBA, contrasting it against the sexism and racism that often taints sports media coverage. Debunking the myth that the league needs a single superstar to gain attention, we emphasize the excellence and engaging drama that make the WNBA a must-watch. From team dynamics to personal relationships akin to reality TV drama, discover why this league offers much more than a game. Tune in for a celebration of the WNBA's quality and the compelling stories of its athletes.
What's up, gang? This is Trenisha English and you're listening to the Things you Should Know podcast. Before we dive in today if you haven't already. Make sure you hit the subscribe button wherever you get your podcasts Like. Ask me, like, what is best case scenario with this Caitlin Clark thing? For me, best case scenario is Indiana becomes one of those places that's got this pocket wmba fandom vibe like that's what I want. Like.
Speaker 1:For me, that's one of the best things about the w is like this like, like organic fan bases that are truly here because we support these women yeah sport and this city, and it don't matter who is on the team, we're just here for that.
Speaker 2:And Vegas has that I feel like Connecticut has that.
Speaker 1:I feel like Seattle has that. I feel like New York is growing that.
Speaker 2:I was going to say I think New York is on the rise on the ride.
Speaker 1:What's up everyone. Welcome back to the Things you Should Know podcast. This is Trenisha English. Again, thank you for for joining me. I am here this week back talking to you all with a new guest to the podcast, because we keeping it, we keeping it fresh, we have we have old guests, we got new guests, but we're bringing someone into the podcast family. Make some noise for the homegirl, kelly wilson. Round of applause. Kelly's joining us from philly. She's a philly girl. I'll go ahead and let you stand, philly. Real quick, do what you need to do listen, I ain't even gonna do much.
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna do much because I don't. With Meek Mill being our staple, I feel like we might be taking a small L.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I don't know, I don't know, I don't even think about that like because the whole like diddy meek mill thing we're not really talking about but that don't really look too great on y'all right now it doesn't y'all other homeboy will smith ain't really holding y'all down a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dang nearly taking some hits, yeah. But you know what? Jill scott just came through with a roots picnic performance and I was there, so she held it down, her, and Tiara Whack held it down always black women saving the culture, as always, right black women saving the culture, as always.
Speaker 1:So, kelly, y'all know how we do this. We're going to kick it off with the mental health check. My question for this week, kelly, is what has been the best part of your week?
Speaker 2:best part of my week. Easy answer I think, I know how you answer this, and we didn't even talk about this before, but I think, I think I know yesterday I think that was yesterday my god, kids graduation, my, my boys, and it's kindergarten.
Speaker 2:But it's like you know, they make, they make the graduation so spectacular. These days it's just like high school, like fifth grade, high school all in one, uh. But for me it was like, as I started to post pictures of them and was looking at some throwbacks, I'm like yo, like one, like how I've really been there since day one and that's something that I take pride in, like before becoming a stepmom, a mom. It was like I was godmom, I was auntie, so like being able to just go through the pictures and be like yo they really five, six and just seeing them up there doing their thing.
Speaker 2:They graduated with 150 kindergartners yikes dang 150, and they were in a immersion program, so it was like a dual language. They was learning spanish as well.
Speaker 1:Oh, so like they, they already out here. Get like that. It's time for them to enter the workforce they grown listen it was.
Speaker 2:It was such a just like a full circle moment as it relates to like becoming a God parent, like I take that role super serious, so like being able to just be there, being a part of it was like that made my week. And after that it was like work was over, like I couldn't even think about it, started canceling me in and say, hey, I'm out, I got to do this. Everything is all pushed back and it was that's how I was rocking. So yeah, no, that was real it's crazy like what kids like.
Speaker 1:The growth of children is how I think adults measure time, because like so much time passes in my life because I'm not constantly surrounded by kids, so I'm not watching kids grow um because kids grow, so so so fast so fast, they grow so fast Like they really do my little nephew is 12, and I was looking at him the other day. He got a little peach fuzz on his lip.
Speaker 1:He's taller than me. Now His voice is getting deeper and I just wanted to chop him in the throat because, like why are you growing up? Stop growing up.
Speaker 2:No, that is between facial hair and that underarm hair. No, that's when it's really like did you put the order on? Did you do this? Did you do that? Did you go back and watch him again like it's?
Speaker 1:it's wild, it's wild, that's wild, that is wild. Well, thanks for sharing that, kelly. I really appreciate it. You know being vulnerable with the people, uh, but I invited you on here because we got to talk about something and I was like I want to talk about this, uh, so this topic has been talked about, I feel like, in not ad nauseum by people who don't really know what they're talking about low-key right so I was like I want to talk about this and I want to talk about it with somebody who been here before.
Speaker 1:Like we not new, we've been we knew we not new to this.
Speaker 1:We true to, and it is our beloved wmba let's get it, let's talk about it if you don't know, if you've been living under a rock and it's kind of wild right, because I am currently living in the city that is, at the epicenter of this and I don't feel like it is hitting us the way it is hitting y'all, because y'all seem to be out there upset about the girl caitlyn clark, and rightfully so, in some way like, but I anyway yeah so I want to. I actually want to kick this question, or this little topic, off with a question and I want to ask you why did you? Because you've been watching, like Kelly's been deep steeped in in.
Speaker 1:WNBA, um, and because Kellylly and I've been having wmba conversations for the last like three, four years, so why do you watch the w? What about the w is appealing to you?
Speaker 2:black women. I mean, yo, it's so. I was even you know, just not even you know, speaking from like an open lesbian. But I'm engaged, y'all I'm engaged, I'm not available.
Speaker 1:Kelly's engaged. She's planning a wedding. Don't be a Kelly DMs. Don't do it.
Speaker 2:I just think that black women is just dope. And then also, like you know, growing up I played basketball. I played sports and I never had a hoop dream, but I like to play basketball. Um, candace Parker really got me watching. It really got me watching it and I think that the whole thing around, just like I remember doing an art project in middle school I don't even know it was something that had to do with Photoshop and I remember combining the bodies of, like, lebron James and Candace Parker to show that, like Candace Parker can do exactly what he can do. Like it was weird. I put her head like on his body, gave him a leg. It was weird. It was weird, but it was like. For me, that's just like the metaphor of just like women can do it Women been here, and I think that like it's entertaining too. It's entertaining. I like the cattiness, I like, I like the swag when they coming in with that it's, it's been here, it's good, I like it it's been here.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad you said that. Thanks for sharing that. I'm gonna be opening honest and say I've been keeping up with the w because about four years ago the w started to get super duper messy about four or five years ago, the cadmus is wild and crazy and the game is a lot more.
Speaker 1:A lot of the things that have been outlawed in the men's game for money purposes, right to create the product have not been outlawed in the women's game in the same way, because it's a different game, and too it weren't. It wasn't that many eyeballs on it, right? So right right um.
Speaker 1:That is why I have loved the w? Um and I have not been a fan of. I've actually been thinking about this a lot because here's what I. Here's what I think people should know, especially folks who are coming to the w are coming to watch the W and becoming fans of women's basketball. We appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1:But, first things first is you all need to read to realize. The reason that we want you to watch the W is not the reason you think it is. So I really think and I'm'm gonna be flat out on this right, this is a lot of sexism, I think we are looking at the racism of it, because that is very glaring, right we're talking about a league that is predominantly black, all female and predominantly gay. So we're talking about, like the taboo minorities all in one bucket, triple that's. I call it a triple threat come on triple threat.
Speaker 1:And sports media is predominantly is a space that is overwhelmingly populated by men, right, and men are such simple creatures and women are so complex, and so why? What the issue is is, these are very nuanced and complex issues that are happening and we're asking very simple people to have intelligent conversations about it, right?
Speaker 1:I really just think there's just so much nuance right, so much that factors into this. That is is being, is is part of it, and because it is such a complex issue, we're focusing on the racism of it. But this is sexist, like y'all are mad because these women are out here competing and boxing, and boxing like they're going like yo, draymond green had to rap.
Speaker 1:He had to put rudy in a headlock right, like like low, like these things. Like kennedy carter is just draymond green, like that's it right, like that's it, all it is, but y'all are so used to seeing and talking about women in a certain way and expecting women to behave in a certain way and looking at women for certain things, that to see them in blood sport, right to see them show up as gladiators, is jarring to y'all and y'all know how to talk about it, and that is like the to me.
Speaker 1:Like that's the baseline here. Like that's the baseline. Yeah, is it. Is it? You know something to think about that? Caitlyn clark came into the league and nike gave her a signature shoe and asia wilson been dominating. She ain't got one yet, or it's coming later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's the same thing that happened with lebron, right, lebron came in and got a signature shoe right off the bat and that we could probably list some folks, some people who were in the league who were dominating like y'all.
Speaker 1:Y'all are tripping on things that, when it happens in men's sports, y'all don't even notice and I I think you nailed it when you said complex.
Speaker 2:You got simple people. Who's just trying to talk basketball when you talk basketball, okay, it may seem a little simple, but when you start talking all those intersecting identities and that triple threat is like what we really talking? What's the root why? Y'all really why?
Speaker 1:y'all really mad. Why y'all really mad? Why y'all really mad? Now, here's the. I think that's a really a really good question, and I've been thinking about that too, kelly, I gotta answer. This is why they really need it. Here's another thing that I think y'all should know. Caitlyn clark has been miscast in her role in the wmba, and when I say that I mean it like this caitlyn clark is the equivalent to reggie miller in the wmba.
Speaker 1:She is an upset, she is a villain. She is someone that when she's on your team you like her. When you're playing against her, you're worried she's gonna go off and ruin your and ruin your fun time. And players like that aren't the faces of leagues. Players like that have niche community followings right and I think that gets messed up. Be our.
Speaker 1:I think how we get on this wave is because that is what steph curry was is but because they were so dominant he became a face of the league and I think like that, so she's miss cash.
Speaker 2:Y'all thinking caitlyn clark is the lebron james of the league, but she's really a stephan curry of the league right, yeah, we gotta respect her and and that's, and that's where, that's where society wins, right? It's like she was set up for failure 100 percent, gino.
Speaker 1:She was set up now thinking of it like a like a job, you know you bring me in to do the dirty work to do you I was.
Speaker 2:She was set up for failure.
Speaker 1:She ain't even saying much she, she's actually and here's the whole thing right, she's a child, she, she is handling this actually so well. I'm extremely impressed with how she's handling this, because she could come out and be a stereotypical middle american white woman right right, because here's the thing right. Like am I saying what happened to Caitlyn or how rough they have been playing. Caitlyn is is okay, no, but I also want to note there was someone who wrapped her hands around.
Speaker 2:Angel.
Speaker 1:Reese's neck, and ain't nobody saying nothing like like.
Speaker 2:This is the what happens to rookies when they come into the league.
Speaker 1:So there's that part of it so am I, but what we are leaving out of this is caitlyn clark be talking her shit I was.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say you know she's carrying over, we, we. We've seen this behavior from her before this is what she's carrying this shit over from. This is exactly. And she, when she was in iowa, like yeah like this is.
Speaker 1:This is exactly how she behaved there, and she because she was dominant. When you're dominant, you can be a douchebag like you can do that.
Speaker 2:You can be ron artest, you can be ron artest.
Speaker 1:Right, you can be ron artest until you punch somebody. Yeah you gotta be met a world peace right, I think.
Speaker 2:I think, I think the and this is how I was looking at. I'm like. You know, we talked about this before. I'm like, now it's getting noticeable and I talked about it with my brother too. It's like, okay, it's one thing to, you know, be aggressive with the rookies, cool, but what I don't? I don't like the picture of racism right, because it's. It's not there, and I think you know that's when. That's when the media wins, though, but I love um.
Speaker 2:I forgot who just did an interview, they saying double m, something like that monica mcnutt yes, yes, yes, right of like pin steven a in a corner where you at where you been at where y'all been at, and now everyone's talking and I think that's where it gets, in particular, black women upset yeah, to me it goes back to a point that I started to make, but I don't think I curled over.
Speaker 1:The reason why we want y'all to watch is because the product is good, right right, because the product is good. We want these women to make more money, right? We aren't looking for caitlyn clark to be a cash cow, right we aren't looking for. We don't want y'all. We aren't saying, oh, this league needed a superstar so that people would care. No, we folks who have been watching the W are saying we want y'all to watch because this is good, this is a good product and we want these women to get the shine that they deserve, because they are putting out a good product.
Speaker 1:We want them to make more money because they are putting out a good product. So the narrative around Caitlyn Clark is a cash cow or you have to be Like no one is saying that about Wimby. No one's saying that about Wimby Because, hey, we can literally say the same thing and so, like that's my whole like to me the fact that.
Speaker 1:And then it goes back to like men and unfortunately I am attracted to them and if I could do something different, I 100% would. I was telling the girl who waxes me today that there's this chick at my gym and if I decide to change teams, I'm calling her first that's that one, that's the one she's the one right.
Speaker 1:She's the one right. Anyway, if I could do what I would, uh, but, um, like that's the thing, right? The issue is these are nuanced things, right, like women are, just actually it's not. Even that part is a nuance. Women are just more complex, right? We don't, we don't want you to watch this one person. We enjoy things because in an, in its entirety, it's good can you imagine what's?
Speaker 2:I can't think of her last name, last name carter. She probably was pmsing this month. She could have been she could have been she said you know what?
Speaker 1:here's what we're not. I'm taking this out. Here's what we're not talking about. She could be getting it in with one of her teammates and found out her teammates was also getting it in with another one of her teammates, and now it's like there's so much back of this right let's talk about the messy while I would, why I was here right like yes the messy of it. This is. Y'all have to realize that the wmba is like getting basketball and scandal all wrapped up into one thing like.
Speaker 2:That's why this is where, yes, like these are these are the real athletic housewives of Las Vegas.
Speaker 1:Like yo, like I want to talk about the fact that there are two players on the Suns that are engaged and the Suns are still undefeated, that that hasn't imploded on itself yet. That's what we need to be watching, because they're going to inevitably be beefing. Inevitably that's what happens right in relationships that's what's going to happen, and when that happens, when that throws that chemistry of that team off, yes, it's going to be bad. We are. We are waiting for a bomb to like a nuclear bomb to explode and y'all worried about this white girl getting beat up.
Speaker 1:For what?
Speaker 2:it was one thing I was watching. It was someone I can't think of names, but this is how I play. I walk with me. You got one girl on one team. She pushed down somebody on another team. The person who pushed the person down her teammate and I hope y'all follow me pushed her because that was her girl that he pushed on the other team. So now they're looking at her like wait a minute, we teammates.
Speaker 1:But she's like but that's my chick that's what you're not gonna do is run up on my girl. We were, we're co-workers we're co-workers like right that's my girl, like it's just and and and. It's pride month. It's pride month, it's about to go up in the w, but y'all worried about this little white girl and it's pride month, and it's pride month, right, like come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 1:Hey, there it's trinisha, and since you're enjoying today's episode, I just wanted to take a quick moment to remind you to subscribe and follow our podcast. By subscribing, you'll never miss an episode, and new episodes will automatically appear in your feed as soon as they're released. Plus, if you follow us, you'll be the first to know about any special announcements, bonus contents, exclusive interviews, you name it. And if you're loving with you here, why not rate and review us wherever you get your podcasts? Um, we gotta shout out our homegirl, angel, angel reese.
Speaker 1:We just gotta shout her out um because we talked about caitlyn. It feels like I actually just saw a clip. Uh, magic johnson was on jimmy kimball and he was like they are caitlyn clark and angel reese are the magic and bird of the yeah, yeah and I like it that people say that and I was like okay man, okay, I like it, I like, I like the bayou.
Speaker 2:barbie, I love the body. Barbie, I'm going to see her play. I think, as it relates to, like you know, a lot of people was doubting her coming over here like she's boning, she, she's, she not built, she's not gonna do this, she's not gonna. She is still dominating, she's still, she's still carrying all that over and she don't even need to score. She's blocking, she's rebounding, she's running the floor, she's passing the ball. Yeah, scoring is a plus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm actually really impressed at the way that she is translating into the league.
Speaker 2:Same.
Speaker 1:Like immediately. I'm also interested to see what this Olympic break does for Camila Cardona because she was playing on the Brazilian team and that heightened level of because she's been hurt, so she's just now playing. And speaking of Camila, I have to shout out her fellow Gamecock, who I think should be the face of the Indiana Fever franchise, who is putting in work, and that is Aaliyah Boston, who was the number one draft pick last year I also want to put out there y'all, like the fever had the number one draft pick last year and the number one draft pick this year and there's a possibility no man listen.
Speaker 1:It's such a tiny league, it's 12 teams like. It's 12 teams like. You can get drafted in the w and get cut like you can get drafted in the first round and not make the team right it's difficult competition. I've been telling people like yo, this isn't the nba. Like I mean, this is the nba, right. Like you can't.
Speaker 2:One draft pick is not gonna turn it around, like yo, not like lebron james didn't do it in season one yeah so no, I was like alia boston and I think I think too you know this is just me making assumptions that could be also a lot of the aggressiveness towards caitlin right, it's like we already got alia yeah, well, I don't even think that right, it could be right, and there's definitely some.
Speaker 1:And here's this is what monica mcnutt the point that she was making with steven a and shannon sharp was, I think, or where I think it kind of went like completely off the rails where they were trying to force her to say that there were women in the w who were jealous of caitlyn clark right, right right okay, cool, whatever, because there are men in the in the nba that are jealous of insert player here right like like jealousy is a human emotion and to try and like essentially that argument to me, that people are hating on caitlyn clark because she's coming into league and getting all this notoriety and women are and the women in the w are jealous of her is essentially just a like repackaging of women are too emotional right, right, oh right right.
Speaker 2:like that's just a dog, right, right, that's, that's that's. And again going back to like it's bigger than basketball, it's bigger than basketball, it's bigger than that. Like we're talking about so much stuff right now, let's not forget the angry black women narrative.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's what we're painting. This league of primarily black women and black queer women, right. So now we're like putting this map and so there's so much nuance, right. This is a complicated thing, which is why we have been having a great time as women watching this before all of you men pulled up, because we don't got to talk about all of that.
Speaker 1:We can just live into the drama, because not only do we understand those implications, we live in those implications right and so now we have an industry that is that doesn't have that understanding coming to the table um, and I'm not, I'm like, I mean like cool, like like, but you know, just like I just am a believer in when you start something new, the best thing for you to do is to ask questions first. Right Before you criticize, ask some questions and.
Speaker 1:I think, that's the misstep, that there are folks that need to ask questions and I'm baffled by the fact that these men who are competitors a la Charles Barkley- or like even Matt Barnes right, the Matt Barnes comment which I, in some ways, I kind of agree with this like oh, your teammates have to come to your defense, yeah, but Matt Barnes, you was a fighter, you were in the enforcer. You were talking about losing and you're talking about losing game checks right. These women can't afford that. They're making like there's that and at the end of the day it was people on your team that you didn't like.
Speaker 1:How you know the fever like her. They might not like her. They might have been in on it. They might have all got to pull together to get hey, kennedy, ain't nobody gonna budge. If you call them a game, stop yeah like who knows, like y'all you're, like you're making a lot of assumptions, like for you to act like the thoughts, the feelings, the emotions that apply when men play sports don't also apply here right, it's idiotic, that's idiotic, that's idiotic right yeah yeah, you, my, my, my girl and we can talk more about they.
Speaker 2:Talk about her. It's Audrey Wilson. That is 100% my one. I wore number 22 in college and my last name is Wilson.
Speaker 1:Oh, so we're in here now. Now she about to tell us they sisters, that's her cousin.
Speaker 2:That's my dog. You feel me Like that's my dog. You feel me Like that's my dog and I think too is one of those things of like I wish you know Angel caught her up Like please mentor me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something like that, something like that.
Speaker 2:Because it's like and I think this is what people trying to say too is like that whole narrative of like we been here, like they can get literally shirts that say we been here, so that people can start talking about it more in a way of like it's not hate on Caitlin Clark, we're just stating fact. Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1:Here's the, here's the like. Another point that I want to make really quickly, as I talk about Caitlin Clark being miscast as the hero face of the league. Like you know, she's not probably. She's probably not. I don't want to say she won't, but the likelihood that she makes the olympic team is slim. I don't know.
Speaker 2:You think they'll put her on it I don't know, like that, I don't know here's the thing.
Speaker 1:Right, like I was looking, I just looked at the old roster. I might even have it up and I'll read it off to you. The are the stint, the roster that is on uh, team usa site. Obviously she's not on it, but I'm gonna read it to you and you tell me who from this roster would you take off to put Kaitlyn Clark on?
Speaker 2:hey, I got a name right now, but go ahead oh, really interesting. I got a name. I got a name go, go, go.
Speaker 1:Ariel Atkins, shakira, austin Aaliyah, boston, chelsea Gray that's my girl yo, my god, I like her. Brittany Griner, rain Howard, sabrina Jewel Lloyd. Brittany Griner, rain Howard, sabrina Jewel Lloyd.
Speaker 2:You said I'm not going to say that last name, sabrina. No, I'm not Sabrina, y'all know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:She's like Beyonce she only needs one name. Jewel Lloyd, kelsey Plum. Brianna Stewart, stewie DT. Diana Taurasi. Uh, jewel lloyd, kelsey plum. Brianna stewart, stewie dt. Diana tarassi, asia wilson jackie young. So the guards diana tarassi, jackie young, kelsey plum. Jewel lloyd, kelsey Plum, jewel Lloyd. Rainn Howard is on this list, but, if I'm not mistaken, rainn Howard. No, she didn't. Did Rainn Howard take a spot on the three-on-three team?
Speaker 2:I forgot they do three-on-three.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Rainn Howard might have taken a spot on the three-on-three team. Let me look at it Was.
Speaker 2:She got an ethic by her name or something.
Speaker 1:No, I just was looking at the 3-on-3 list because I was going to make the point that the darling of the league this year should not be Kaitlyn Clark, it should be Cameron Brink.
Speaker 2:I agree, I like Cameron. I like Cameron too, but you know what she's competing against, un, but you know, you know what she's competing against unintentionally, her and um angel they're.
Speaker 1:They're like kind of playing the same, which I think it's interesting, right, because you often get in those narratives oh, we're gonna do the pretty white girl and the pretty black girl right, and so they both can do that, and I will also say that I've.
Speaker 1:Cameron brink is gorgeous, yeah, but she's never done like angel reese has been. Yes, rain howard took a spot on the three on three team. I knew it, I knew, I remember. Um, so rain won't be on that roster, but um, what was I saying? Oh uh, cameron brink is absolutely gorgeous, but I don't think she's ever marketed herself on how pretty she is.
Speaker 1:She just shows up as pretty, and not that I'm thinking, that. I'm saying that angel reese has yes, she has. She calls herself a barbie, right like she calls herself the bayou barbie yeah, like so like, and I don't think that um, or at least in my recollection, cameron Brink has never showed up that way.
Speaker 2:But and, if I'm not mistaken, she is Steph Curry's. God, that's her right.
Speaker 1:Yes, she's Steph Curry's god sister.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sonia Curry is her godmother yes, yes, I mean going back to who I would replace hearing. I don't even I don't think I hear Caitlin's name on there. Yeah, like amongst those players you feel me Like and I think too is like it's their time. It makes me think of a. Who is that? Who just came to, anthony Davis?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right and they just, they just put them on there. And I was like this guy on, did we see him play a game yet? And we didn't. That was, he was in the bag.
Speaker 1:It was like right after kentucky, like he had gotten drafted and just left kentucky and was on the olympic team.
Speaker 2:You're right, yep, yep yep, at least we've seen her play, we know what she can do. Yeah, I like her. I like her. She got good. She gotta do a little more for me, though but yeah, that's my point.
Speaker 1:Right, like it is hard to get on an olympic team, you've got a stephan curry who's just now on his first olympic team.
Speaker 1:Now, granted, injury played into that a little bit, but right like you don't just wake up one day and oftentimes you don't just get to get be on the olympic team, and I don't know that caitlin's ever played, or has played, much usa, usa basketball, um, like in the like 18u 20u stuff. I've never heard of caitlin participating in that. So they tend to stick with the players that they farmed through the process. Um, but again back to the original point.
Speaker 1:There is no guard on that list that I would remove for caitlyn clark no, I wasn't single one no not a single one no no, hey, listeners, just a quick reminder to subscribe and follow our podcast so you never miss an episode, and if you're enjoying the show, be sure to rate and review us. Your support means the world to us. Now let's get back to the show.
Speaker 2:We can keep going further and really get them a championship.
Speaker 1:She didn't. She did not get to the promised land.
Speaker 2:I think that's like the ice, that's the hammer on the nails like, and I I was watching this one thing again and I was like you know what, sure, after the game I watched it. They followed her lost journey more than they followed the winning the.
Speaker 1:I haven't watched it, but it's the one that's like her, camila cardoza, and maybe one and like one other, like the documentary that paint many paint many put together yes, yes, yes, I heard about that.
Speaker 1:Yes, um, yes, like all the way to the locker room, the laws, and it's like these girls just went undefeated but she was the and I get it right like and I want to name it because you said it black woman. I was gonna be shady and you said something that sounded shady but I want the people to realize that it actually wasn't. You said nail on the head a nail in a coffin is. She was not able to deliver a national championship and I think for folks in an nba context that doesn't feel as like as much of a knock right or as much as a as a shortcoming, because the nba is 30 teams and it is basically three times the size of the wmba. So the number of men in the nba who didn't achieve a national championship yeah, I mean a lot of them don't even stay that long. But we're talking about the wmba, where women have to stay in college for at least four years and the league is so small it's only 12 teams.
Speaker 1:So the number of women in the league who didn't win national championships is really small it's really small yeah, so to say that kaylin clark didn't win a national championship and yeah, it sounds shady, but yeah, like yo, we're talking about women on this olympic roster who did yeah that's and to get all the hype around you.
Speaker 2:And I don't want to do the whole LeBron, but there's people who can carry teams. If you that boy, if you that girl, you were supposed to carry them, but hey, that's a lot of pressure. You know white people ain't used to carrying it. Listen.
Speaker 1:You got to carry, and I'm about to cape for another white woman. Cameron Brick won a national championship her sophomore year like sophomore sophomore year, like listen, like I'm yeah, I'm pretty sure it's sophomore junior year. But yeah, yeah, so like you're talking about women who have done it, done these things that she hasn't. It's possible, right, it's, it's. It's it's now, as the league expands right to 14 teams next year. Hopefully, you know 30 years and at some point hopefully I got a team at that point.
Speaker 1:Listen, because we in that thing, that's what we shooting for.
Speaker 2:Philly need a team. Philly, we got a lot of ballers. Here we do.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of ballers everywhere. In fact, right Like yo, people are like, oh, the WNBA is expanding, yes, right like yo, people are like, oh, the WNBA is expanding, yes, and they're just. They don't need to do anything, they're just gonna pick up all these women that they've cut and they actually wanted to be on their team, but there weren't enough rosters.
Speaker 2:We could just go to tryouts like, oh, like everybody who doesn't make it, let's go like put me in the corner. I could be Kaylin Clark for a little bit, right like we can do it like the and these women are are playing.
Speaker 1:Uh, someone else made a point that I heard, but I want to repeat it. It's like they play all year like these women don't get out of shape, they're in shape no play all year long. That's how they do it's hoop yeah, yeah, and that was.
Speaker 2:And it's so wild when I realized like this, at a young age of like oh no, I don't have no hoop dreams they wasn't making no money they ain't making no money I need the funds. I'm good, I'm good. Oh, kelly, you never thought about that. I didn't, I didn't I didn't. And then, like I said, like I, I vividly remember being in college and my cycle being on and I'm like I just can't play today. I'm like I'm losing blood. What else you want me to say?
Speaker 1:I, I'm finished I can't do it, I need a transfusion. Bro, I need my iron pills. Like I can't do it, I need a transfusion, bro, I need my iron pills.
Speaker 2:Like I can't do this, bro. And once I realized all those varying factors and then between pregnancy and between just everything that women go through is so much, and then to make that little, I commend everyone in the WNBA, like they have the passion and they have the commitment and that's really what it's all aboutlly you know what.
Speaker 1:I can't think of a better place to end it right, because you just like bookended that so well. Like that's what it's really all about. So, if you hear this podcast, that's what I'm going to ask you to do as I prepare to get ready to watch a fever mystics game at 7 30. The next time that you are watching the wmba, please remember like that's what this is about. Like it all the things that y'all are bringing into it, and I don't really got nothing to do with it. It's all small potatoes. Uh, really appreciate you being here. Before we get out of here, though, kelly, anything you want the people to know, anything you want to share, any advice you want to impart for the people keep watching yeah keep watching.
Speaker 2:I think it's only going to get better. I think, you know, even with me, I coach au basketball boys 8, 9 and then even 15, 16, and when we go to tournaments we see a lot of the young girl teams tough. They are tough like I think there's there's going to be, hopefully a philly team, hopefully a lot more teams. If not, there's a lot of women, a lot of young girls up and coming. So I I'll just say keep watching and don't get sucked into the hype. Don't watch because you want to watch, watch because you appreciate the game and what these women doing and not because you want to see the narrative and the battles and all that because, again, as that, we can easily fall into it. I probably hated caitlin clark for 10 minutes. You feel me like it's, it's gonna happen, but she's good, she's, she's good. She also wears number 22, you know. So it's like, yeah, keep watching. It's a lot of young girls out here that's balling, they balling, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1:I feel that yeah Like keep watching this up-and-coming. Juju is still in the college game right Juju is still there. Like there's so many like up-and-coming folks in, the, or women, women ladies in the college game. Kelly's telling y'all the pipeline is strong, so yeah, keep watching.
Speaker 2:I love that. That was a really good thing to let the people know it's strong. Oh wait a minute. My girl Dawn. Give her all her flowers. Give Dawn.
Speaker 1:Shout out Dawn the Philly girl.
Speaker 2:Is she from North? Give her all her flowers. It's good, it's good, it's good, we good. I feel like the first time I met you, kelly, you was like I'm from North Philly with an F North with an F N-O-R-F-H North.
Speaker 1:Well, shout out to North Philly with the F. Shout out to the homegirl, kelly. Really appreciate you for coming on, um, but it's getting late. It's it's Friday afternoon. I'm gonna let you get back to the fam. You got family things, how's?
Speaker 2:the wedding planning going. It's going. You know what we strategically cause. I'm a type A strategic person. We got over a year, so we planned it out with some good enough time. We two tech seasons you feel me? Two tech seasons in between A lot of hustling, a lot of hustling, and two tech seasons and we going to get it popping.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm wishing y'all the best of luck. It's been lovely watching you grow as just like a human, but also, you know, the growing of your little family and I can't keep doing watching. So thanks for letting me do that. No problem, until you know. We're gonna be friends when I leave, uh, our job, because I ain't gonna be there forever don't drop the name our job I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 1:Kelly, thanks so much for having me here. Thank you all for listening. I really appreciate it and I will talk to you the next time. Bye, oh, kelly, thanks, that's so good, that's gonna be cute. That's gonna be cute with me, because I want to say this to you I was thinking last night about when you told me you were like hey, I don't remember what we were talking about. I think we just had a call and we were like catching up and you were like man, I think I'm a stepmom, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I remember that shit. I remember that shit. I cackled about that shit for weeks.
Speaker 1:I remember that shit. I remember that shit. I cackled about that shit for weeks.
Speaker 2:I remember that.
Speaker 1:I think, I think you like whispered it, you didn't want to say it.
Speaker 2:It happened, I manifested shit.
Speaker 1:I think I'm a mom full blown.
Speaker 2:I get custom cards and all that shit. Oh, look at you.