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Slay Your Dragons - Malcolm Stern
Malcolm Stern in conversation with guests.
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Slay Your Dragons - Malcolm Stern
From Near-Death Experiences to Abundant Living: A Story of Resilience, Purpose, and Compassion
When life throws you a curveball, how do you find your true purpose? Join us as we sit down with Nick Jarvis, who shares his transformative journey through severe health challenges that reshaped his outlook on life. From battling Guillain-Barre syndrome and COVID-19 to experiencing a near-death revelation, Nick's story is a testament to the power of resilience and finding meaning beyond material success.
Nick opens up about his time in the ICU, where a deep meditative state brought him a life-altering message that redirected his focus from personal wealth to impacting others positively. This awakening led him to create the Abundance Movement, a community-focused initiative that uses gamification to promote essential resources like clean water, shelter, and organic food. We explore how Nick's profound experiences led to a deep spiritual connection and a commitment to advocating for a compassionate approach to health and well-being.
We also touch on the significant obstacles Nick has overcome, including battling childhood traumas and imposter syndrome. His journey from financial growth through property subletting to building a community of purpose is filled with lessons on the importance of purpose and contribution in life. Tune in to hear Nick's inspiring story and learn how you too can turn adversity into a catalyst for positive change.
This Podcast is sponsored by Onlinevents
So welcome to our podcast, slay your Dragons with Compassion. I'm Malcolm Stern and we've been doing these since last November and I'm having some wonderful guests on these podcasts that we're doing. So these podcasts are all done in conjunction with my very good friends at online events and they're really sort of supporting it being something that gets out there. What we're very interested in here is the changes people have made in their lives, the challenges they've had to overcome. The podcast is called Slay your Dragons with Compassion, which is after my book, which was after my daughter took her own life.
Malcolm Stern:I basically realized I had resources and that change was taking place in me, whether I liked it or not, and somehow, if we can marshal those resources and we can find a way to make those changes positive, everything that happens to us is part of the process that evolves us. So today's guest I was chatting to I've only met once online before is Nick Jarvis, and I was just fascinated by Nick's story because Nick went through an amazing near-death experience and turned his life around as a result of that. So we're going to hear a little bit about that and what he's gathering as a result of that. So a big welcome to you, nick, and very good to have you here.
Nick Jarvis:Thanks so much, malcolm. Uh, so grateful to be uh on your podcast incredible. I just I'm just so grateful, thank you well, I.
Malcolm Stern:What I love is people who've who've turned them, who've changed their lives. They've turned their lives around, and I think there's something about that. We get inspired. It's almost like we get into service, and for me, ultimately, um bob Dylan wrote you've got to serve somebody and Rabindranath Tagore wrote that I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I woke and found that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy, and there's something very strong in terms of the sort of sense of direction you've taken as a result of nearly losing your life and turning your life around. So you were an entrepreneur for a number of years, I believe. Yes, that's correct. Yeah. Then you got COVID, and when it was really bad, you got a really bad dose of COVID and they thought you were going to die. So tell us a little bit about that.
Nick Jarvis:Yeah, sure it actually winds back even further than that. So, if it's okay, I'll go even further back than that. Um, so originally, you know, I came to this country, uh, 24 years ago now. Uh, I'm originally from south africa, uh, born and bred there, and basically, um, when I came here to the uk, I started to work as a engineer on the london and I was working like long shifts, like long night shifts I'm talking about 18-hour type of night shifts, you know, burning the candle at both ends and basically I didn't know anything about entrepreneurship.
Nick Jarvis:I knew nothing about you know. I just knew, you know, go to work. You know, go to school, go to university, get a job. You know, go to go to work, you know, go to school, go to university, get a job. You know, have kids, get a mortgage and, you know, live your life in this type of linear kind of way, growth, growth, growth type of thing, always trying to go for that higher kind of level, if you like. And so basically, I ended up burnt out, completely overwhelmed. I ended up in paralyzed, semi-paralyzed, from the neck down on the left side, with something called the Guillain-Barre syndrome, where my nerve endings attacked themselves. Well, my nervous system attacked itself and it affected my nerve endings Still have tingling in my fingers to this day from that and that was a real. That was my first awakening moment where I realized something needed to change, because I was in this kind of situation where I didn't have any kind of direction in my life or purpose. Do you know what I mean?
Malcolm Stern:that's. That's very good, actually, because very often I find that a lot of my guests and a lot of people that I work with have turned their lives around as a result of serious illness, but actually suddenly life doesn't look the same anymore. It's no longer what you described as linear and actually something powerful happened to you. So you get this illness, you're partly paralyzed, and then what happens?
Nick Jarvis:so, basically, I ended up in in hospital for three, three months at that point, um, re-evaluating everything in my life, um, and basically I went back, uh, I started a self-development journey. You know, I started to learn from people like eckhart tolle. Um, I started to learn from people like you know, um, all these people who have tremendous followings and tremendous personal development journeys themselves. They've been there and they've done it and they've got the t-shirt, so to speak. So I started learning from the people who know best.
Nick Jarvis:If you like, and you know, I spent a lot of money, a lot of time, a lot of resources, but also I expanded my metaphysical self and I started to go on more of a kind of spiritual journey personal development and, you know, changing, shifting the paradigm and the mindset.
Nick Jarvis:But I was still thinking in the way of started to do all these type of things to earn money where I could be, you know, like in Kiyosaki's quadrant. You know about the different quadrants, you know, and you want to be in the investor slash, business owner type of quadrants, if you want to, you know, make a lot of money. And I was still just thinking about money, money, money, growth, growth, growth at that point, and I continued that way. I started renting out my own property. I started renting out basically a room in a rented property like subletting type of thing, and I realized, oh, this is lucrative and I started doing this more. And then I started getting into HMO type of property and then I started gradually building my property portfolio in this way, acquiring property and also trading at the same time. But I realized I didn't have purpose, I didn't have any kind of. I got to this point where I realized I'm getting all this money and everything else, which is great, but I don't feel any different.
Malcolm Stern:That's very important, actually, nick, because I think that's one of the key things that I've written about in my books when your Dragons is that one of the things we need in life is purpose. That sense of purpose drives us forward. That sense of purpose gives us a reason to get up in the morning, not so that we can aggrandize ourselves or build a big shield around ourselves, but because we have a precious job to do in this life and it feels like you found your way, through quite a lot of adversity, to your job. We'll come to what your your work is now, which I, again, I find fascinating. But, um, so there's your first bit is the breakdown in health and sort of, and also there's something about accruing something before you give it up. It's one thing to sort of say, oh you know, I'm letting go of all earthly things when you haven't been there. But you started to get there and then you realized that actually you didn't, it, didn't, it didn't make you happy.
Nick Jarvis:No, no, and the thing is the way I think about it now is the way you come into this world is the way you're going to leave this world with no material possessions. You know you're going to come in the same way you leave, but what is going to leave is what. What you can leave is a legacy and an impact that people remember you by. You know it's not what people. You know people, your reputation is based on what people say behind your back, not what's in front of you. You know. So you know you want people saying the right things to help your reputation behind your back, you know. And so obviously that is all about building up a real good personal brand and purpose behind that, you know, having a reason to do something.
Malcolm Stern:And clearly living in integrity as well. So that feels right 100%. That's what sort of seems to be driving many of my friends and many of my colleagues and students these days is is that sense of integrity and authenticity and I that's what I got from you when I spoke to you that the other a few weeks ago is that I got a sense that you have really you have found your purpose and and so you. You had one more big hiccup with health, with COVID, so perhaps you could, you could just tell us a bit about that and what happened to you there.
Nick Jarvis:Yeah, yeah, sure. So, as I said, I was building these portfolios and everything else and just thinking about, you know, my own monetary growth type of thing. And then I got COVID and I ended up in ICU for three weeks fighting for my life, basically being on ventilators and everything, and basically I went into this deep meditation state because that's all I had left. Basically I couldn't have friends, I couldn't have family. You know, it was during lockdown. I was in this kind of room, no air conditioning. You know these machines that just you know keep you sweating and everything else like that. You know these machines that just you know keep you sweating and everything else like that. Plus, I had a. To top it off, I had a reaction to a beta blocker which set my skin on fire and basically my whole body was literally on fire and literally after that my whole body peeled.
Malcolm Stern:It was like a reborn, virtually, you know, like shedding the whole skin, shedding your skin yeah, exactly literally my whole body peeled and um after.
Nick Jarvis:After that, and then when I came out of rcu, the doctors, they showed me these x-rays of my lungs. There's one tiny spot on the right hand side of one of my lungs. The rest was completely black with this virus and they said I shouldn't be here. They said you should not be here. You are a miracle. And it was at that point that during those times in the hospital I had so much time for meditation and everything. And this voice came through me, not from me, but through me. I get goosebumps now talking about it. But this voice came through me and said, whispered to me you're doing it wrong. You're thinking about yourself. You should be thinking about people and the impact you can have on other people outside of the traditional monetary systems.
Malcolm Stern:And this was like like whoa, this is like, and so you weren't someone who sort of like, who sort of was hearing voices regularly? This is like, you know. No, you're tethered physically and actually then something came through and again, one of my other guests was drowning and a voice came through him at that stage as well. He turned his life around. So I'm hearing. Something very similar happened here that you found something and you talked about doing meditation. Had you already started meditation before that?
Nick Jarvis:yeah, so I had done a lot of, uh, personal development and, and you know, working with people, but I hadn't really gone deep into understanding the chakra systems and you know, know, all these kind of modalities and all that kind of stuff. I just used to go on YouTube and, you know, listen to a meditation that I found type of thing that resonated with me, but I didn't really understand it, or you know, it's just something that you know, these people who I'd studied from said I should do. I was born a Catholic and I was baptized and went to confirmation, all of that.
Nick Jarvis:And my mom jibed me to church every single Sunday and when I turned 18, I rebelled and I said I'm not going stepping back into a physical church. I have my faith, know, I will pray and everything at home and whatever, but I'm not going to go into a church type of thing. And I stuck with that. And for me, um, I'm not a religious person, but I'm very spiritual person and I'm very how do I say, connected to my higher self, if you like, um, through you know what I call god consciousness, um, and you know. So I believe things. You know there's a higher power, you know god power, but you know I'm not religious in that sense.
Malcolm Stern:If that makes sense no well, young, young um spoke about the the um, about the cosmic consciousness, about tuning in to the consciousness, and when we do that we go beyond our small self and we start to find that there is a lot more out there. So, in effect, he went on a personal meditation retreat. It just happened to be in a hospital, hooked up in a load of machines, and actually you found the thing you could do in that space, which is to deeply go inside yourself. And actually what happened is that then the illness didn't get you in the way that the doctors expected it to get you, and a miracle happened. Now those things do happen, and I'm not saying they're every day. Actually interesting.
Malcolm Stern:Albert Einstein said either everything is a miracle or nothing's a miracle. So there's something quite profound about that being in a space where your body's basically turning in on itself and you're expected to die, and somehow you came through. And when we come through experiences like that, that's often when we make major life changes, which is what I believe happened for you after that. And so what are you doing now with this one wild and precious life, as Mary Oliver puts it?
Nick Jarvis:So yeah, just to go back to that point about the hospital and the curing of the COVID, you know there's been.
Nick Jarvis:I was speaking to a university professor the other day that I work with in my donut economics NGO, environment, and basically they said to me that any disease, whether it's cancer or whether it's COVID, instead of us trying to fight the cancer or fight the COVID, we should love the COVID.
Nick Jarvis:We should love the cancer because it feels like it's not home if we're trying to make it a parasite of our body. So it's actually kind of counterintuitive if you think about it, the way that it actually works. But the fact that I embraced what I had, that COVID, and I actually kind of went into this meditative state and was just a place of pure love through my, you know, higher self-guard consciousness, that I believe that I came out of COVID and I think it's the same way cancer is going to be cured in the future as well. You know, according to this professor and there's lots of studies being done about this you know that this is actually a way, the way to cure cancer is not to try and think of it as a parasite but actually as a, you know, part of you, you know, living within you. That is actually if you give it love, it will actually go away, naturally.
Malcolm Stern:Well, the COVID was a part of you, and actually that part didn't. It left one tiny piece of your lung untouched. It was enough to keep you going, so how long?
Malcolm Stern:were you in ICU for Two weeks, three weeks, three weeks I was in, so three weeks you are. Basically you have nothing to do except to go in, and most people in those situations could freak out, but you didn't freak out. So something in you stayed very strong and stable and actually found a way through that. So after you come through it, the worst had happened. What happened then, nick?
Nick Jarvis:So basically, actually in that hospital, I started writing. I started writing what was coming through me. It didn't make any sense to me. Actually, I need to wind back 10 years before that very quickly, because I had a vision board and if you're familiar with vision boards, you put what you want in the future and I wrote something called the Currency of Happiness. I had no idea what that meant back 10 years ago.
Nick Jarvis:And then, obviously, I had all these kind of things with money and everything come from a very how do I say? One side of my family was very poor and the other side was very wealthy, owning an oil refinery. So it was from one side, you know, to the other type of thing that that kind of, that kind of. So I was pulled between. You know, I always thought rich people were like snobs and I thought that they were. You know that they were greedy and this and that. And I had this very bad kind of omen with money. You know this very bad energy with money because, at the end of the day, for me money is energy. You know, everything in this world is energy transference, is energy transference, and so with that, it was very strong for me that I needed to the currency of happiness was saying.
Nick Jarvis:I wrote as I said 10 years ago, and now to this day, fast forward to today. This is what I'm now building is a place where people can figure their purpose out in a how do I say? Safe environment, in a place where they're loved and they're not judged. There's no judgment, there's no labels, there's no hierarchy, there's no social classes. So everything that in traditional society, the status quo says we should have, we should have status, we should have a certain bank balance, we should have, we should have status, we should have a certain bank balance, we should have the traditional way of going to school, getting educated. I've gone against all those kind of norms, so to speak, and I've looked at ways. How can we empower people, everyday people, to have purpose so they don't have to go through all these crises to have all these kind of um how do I say um?
Malcolm Stern:what I've been through, basically, you know basically, you take your own journey, it educates you and you then decide you're going to pass on the legacy of how you've been educated and you've got a. You had a rough ride. You know syndrome plus syndrome plus COVID. You got a rough ride, but now you've created an organization and it's called. What is your organization called now?
Nick Jarvis:So it's called the Abundance Movement. Abundancemovementio is the website and basically it's all about bringing people together around, because I believe the future of business is community, it's people coming together. So, you know, in the traditional business world we have an HR department. You know we have a CV. We have. You know we need to get a degree, we need to have qualification, we need to have experience before we get employed per se. This is the traditional model in the traditional HR, traditional corporate model.
Nick Jarvis:And you know COVID, the actual COVID pandemic. You know people came back into homes, people came back into their family, their little bubble, so to speak, as the government's called it, and basically people came back to their values. You know their values and virtues of. You know being with family, being with their loved ones type of thing, with their loved ones type of thing. And we had a whole shift in the way that people think about working in business. We had people moving to Ireland, we had people moving back out into the countryside type of thing, instead of being in the city and in the corporate kind of hierarchy, if you like, and so we had this big shift, in my perspective, in the paradigm, and you know, obviously, when people went back to work it, it, they, they had to go back to the current reality of things, which is get a mortgage, pay, pay the mortgage, you know, pay the rent, feed my children, you know, clothes, clothes, clothes, clothes and everything else like that. But the thing is, their heart, their purpose, is something that they started to think like what's more outside of this.
Nick Jarvis:You know, I've experienced this for the last two years during COVID, being with my family unit. You know, like back in the gold rush days, they said go, go to the sit, go to, you know, come to America, come, you know, you'll earn, and everything else like that. And kids, men, were bought up by females. They were bought up by their mothers because the fathers were out working earning the gold, so to speak, and basically, you know that created a whole. I feel like we're going back to those times. We're going past the Industrial Revolution. We now have AI and we have all these kind of technologies that can be used for destructive purposes of humanity, but they can also be used to really give humanity a chance to actually go back to virtually their, their caveman roots, so to speak, where they, you know, they hunted and they gathered and they, they lived in community. So this is, this is my world now, where I'm bringing people together around purpose and building community around that purpose tell us, how that works, nick, can you so?
Nick Jarvis:how do you?
Malcolm Stern:create a community. Do people pay to be part of this community? How does it operate?
Nick Jarvis:so basically we we're in pre-beater launch right now and basically we're using ar technology to match people together based on their virtues, their skills, their personalities. You know all this type of stuff they go through like fun quizzes and fun interactive kind of gamification, but they're also earning as well. They're earning our real currency reward token when they do this kind of stuff. So because our platform, what the idea is, is, we want to remove that survival layer. You know, the survival layer, if you think of Maslow's hierarchy of human needs and you think of self-actualization and the base level that we need, which is, you know, food, water and basically shelter. You know those are kind of our like, base levels. Part of that base level should be a monetary kind of survival level, if you like. You know, because I feel like everyone. Survival level, if you like. You know, because I feel like everyone.
Nick Jarvis:Most people have a glass ceiling. You know they sit here and they think you know, and they are surrounded by their peers, who are all you know. If they're working in McDonald's and they feel like, you know, that's all I can earn, I can't, I can't raise above that. Or you know, if they're CEO, oh, I can't raise above that. Or a property investor, oh, you know, and people who associate themselves with other people in that kind of level, if you like, they tend to have that glass ceiling at that level and obviously we want to make sure that people have that survival level covered, you know. So they're from there because we're taking them through a journey. We call it the abundance acronym. Basically it's an acronym, and the very first stage of that journey is awareness to change awareness, to change your paradigm of how you perceive the world, because, at the end of the day, it's just a perception of what is actually occurring from the angle that you're looking at it. And so if you can change your perception, you can change your glass ceiling, if you like.
Malcolm Stern:Sorry what's the rest of the acronym so B?
Nick Jarvis:you got to be a belief in yourself, belief in yourself. So belief in yourself and yourself. So belief in yourself and then unified vision, you know, is the third part of our acronym, and so it goes through this, this kind of journey, this educational journey, and you can think of it like a choose your own adventure. You know, I don't know if you ever watched, read those books, you know, like choose your own adventure books type of thing, where you could choose your own ending type of thing. So it's kind of like that, because the thing is in the traditional educational system it's very linear, it's very kind of syllabus-based you must learn this, you must do science, you must do math, you must do this, you must do the next thing to have a well-rounded education.
Nick Jarvis:But the problem is with the education system is that it was built back in time with AR development and the jobs haven't even been created. We've got a massive skills gap in the world today that there's no one to fill those kind of skills. You know AR is taking over a lot of kind of how do I say input, data, input, type of jobs, and you know all this type of stuff, and so we wanted to build an educational system that is nonlinear. You know it's a way that people can choose what they want to do and show them how to create their own purpose. You know their own Because we believe whether you live in the slums in Africa or whether you're born in, you know into wealth. You know you have a gift within yourself. You know everyone has a unique gift that they can monetize. I don't care who you are, whether you're in Africa or whether you're, you know, wealthy. You have a gift that you can give to the world and to support people.
Malcolm Stern:Presumably it's more than monetization, because, I mean, that's one angle of looking at things, but we're also looking at the gift that actually gives you a sense of purpose, aren't we?
Nick Jarvis:Yes, exactly, you see, like very, what's his name? I can't think of his name now, but there's seven buckets basically that you need to fill, you know, in your life. One is health, one is spirituality, one is money. You know there's multiple different buckets and you need to have a balanced life of all these buckets before you can how do I say? Transcend and awaken. You know in in that kind of sense where you're actually within your higher self, so to speak. And so our platform and ecosystem is all about that showing you that path, but also giving you the tools and resources and finances to be able to build your purpose into something tangible that is going to create legacy wealth for you and your family.
Malcolm Stern:So your vision for this platform is that thousands of people will join up at some point in time and that actually, you will be helping people direct their energies towards transforming their lives effectively.
Nick Jarvis:Yeah, so it's already happening. It's so beautiful to see you know, because people, you know, when they start to realize they actually have something that they can give to the world, you know that's the best thing, the best feeling in the world is when you know you have something that you can give that's going to give value to others. You know you can give that for free, it doesn't matter. Matter it's the feeling that it gives you of seeing the impact or the results from.
Malcolm Stern:you know those people and you know back to sense of purpose again, doesn't it nick?
Nick Jarvis:so that's a very exactly driver in all.
Malcolm Stern:Of this is everything in our lives.
Nick Jarvis:most definitely I, like you, know, unless you have purpose, you're drifting. You know you're drifting aimlessly through life, the way social norms dictate. You know it's only when you decide to actually make that shift in your paradigm and your consciousness that you're now able to start thinking outside the box, so to speak thinking outside the box, so to speak.
Malcolm Stern:Funny, you know, when I was um in in um 2018, it was the 50th anniversary of my school uh year that I'd that I'd been at, so I went to this um this anniversary and all of us were 68 years old and um, and, and actually some of the people there were still vibrant and alive, and others felt like old men, and, and what I realised as I started to talk to people because I thought this is an interesting experiment to see what's going on here is the ones who had purpose. It wasn't the ones who made loads of money, it was the ones who'd actually found meaning in their lives, felt like their youthfulness was still there 100%. It's a powerful thing, isn't it, that happens. 100%. It's a powerful thing, isn't it that happens?
Nick Jarvis:Yeah, I think your metaphysical chemical structures actually change in your body when you discover their purpose. There's been scientific experiments in that that the actual your brain, the synapses, actually change based on your shift in the paradigm. So it actually shows real changes in the brain, neural pathways et cetera, et cetera.
Malcolm Stern:So you're still in my book, anyway. You're still young and still sort of at that stage of thrusting your way forwards, and so there's a sort of sense that you've you've found your purpose. I can hear the passion and energy in it and and you've got this, this, uh, this project, which is about helping people achieve abundance, more than material abundance, but achieve abundance in their lives and and um, and this is what you're investing all your time and energy into. Is that right, neil?
Nick Jarvis:Yes, yeah, and the thing is, the material abundance flows into that as well, because every single thing on our platform is gamified in a way of actually earning real currency that you can check out of the system. And our vision of the project is to basically, we believe that every single person on this planet should have, at minimum, clean running water supply, a dry, warm roof over their head and organic, gmo, pesticide-free food in their stomach, and our mission is to develop 3,100% net positive ecovillages to fulfill this vision. If you like, and all our ecovillages, all our real estate assets, everything that we're building as community is owned by the community. It's not owned by me. I am purely a visionary of this project, but everything is built and decentralized, so it's owned by the collective.
Malcolm Stern:So when you say we, you've got partners who are part of this process.
Nick Jarvis:Yeah, so I have four founding partners. One is based in the Philippines, on a beautiful island of Palawan. He worked for BMW, virgin, over 200 different big media brand companies type of thing, and he spoke on stages. You know he used to get like $100,000 at a speaking engagement. And him and I actually met through my partner, gina, on Facebook, funnily enough, and we had a conversation and he was creating in parallel the educational side of what I was creating in the currency of happiness side of things. It was just a perfect synergistic kind of connection, you know straight away. And you know it was incredible because you know, when you have things in your life that natural occurrences that are just like a can't be fluked type of thing like you know, a very rare Palawan peacock, for example, which hasn't been seen in like 20 years suddenly appeared during our conversation as these kind of kind of things where we know that we're being led by, you know, something higher than just from a linear kind of business perspective. Do you know what I mean? So so that that was one of our partners. He had a purpose crisis and he basically left all of that corporate world behind, even though he was earning good money, but he didn't have purpose, he didn't have fulfillment and he went and lived as a nomad on this island of palawan, you know, helping the palawan palawanese kids and all of that type of stuff. Um, and just you know being a genuine great guy. He he was, um, you know he was in spider-man, one of the spider-man movies, and he's been in, you know, multiple. He used to be in films quite a lot. Um, and yeah, just just an incredible human being that had the educational side of what, the purpose? Basically he calls himself the purpose brand, uh, expert type of thing. He had the perfect synergy with us.
Nick Jarvis:And then we have another incredible founder as well who's a global top 10 CEO, brian J Esposito, and he's got over 200 companies in over 25 different industries and he saw the power of what we're building and joined forces with us and basically he's looking to tokenize all of his 200 companies, which means basically in layman's terms, that you can basically, instead of them being public companies on the New York Stock Exchange, you can actually get a token of these companies on the New York Stock Exchange, but a decentralized token, which means it can't be manipulated, it can't be. You know, it doesn't have kind of shareholders per se. It's more of a kind of decentralized nodes type of thing. Decentralized nodes type of thing.
Nick Jarvis:And everyone you know decentralized ledger technology, dlt technology, is going to be huge, massive. You know. It's considered to be a $16 trillion industry by 2030, according to McKinsey and this is what we're tapping into with our real estate. So everyone can own a fraction of the underlying real estate assets that we're building and basically all those assets are owned by the collective, but it's completely decentralized so it can't be manipulated or kind of anything like that. So that's one of our other partners. And then the other partner is my incredible partner, gina. She works for an incredible retreat company called Skiros, which I'm sure you are familiar with. I work there regularly.
Nick Jarvis:yes, and yeah, she's also part of the project as well.
Malcolm Stern:So you've found the right people. And Jung said that everything is synchronicity. So here you are, that the right people have you've found the right people, and and um jung said that everything is synchronicity. So here you are, that the right people have shown up at the right time and you're there. So it sounds like you've really got um passion and energy to for making something of your life that leaves a contribution effectively. So we're coming to the end of our podcast and it's been really, really great talking to you and I really love the youthful passion that you bring to these things as well. And um and the question I ask people at the end of the podcast and I deliberately don't set it up in advance because I want to just flow rather than to be planned is what's the dragon you've had to slay in order to, to get to where you are right now? So just breathe and just feel your way into that as well. What have you had to overcome?
Nick Jarvis:my inner demons, my own inner demons, which are, you know, um, you know, ego, ego. You know ego is a major player. That, um, I had to slay because ego is something that you know, you, you, you want to have accolades and you want to have this and you want to have all these kind of things, but at what cost? At what cost to humanity, at what cost to my relationships? At what cost to everything, slaying those demons within me. You know those childhood traumas. You know that kind of told me I couldn't do this, or I couldn't do that, or you know I wasn't good enough. Or you know all those kind of voices in the back of your head, that kind of creep in and say, oh, you're not good enough to do this. Like, who the hell are you? You know that imposter syndrome type of thing. It's like even six months ago, you wouldn't catch me live on a podcast like this. You know it just wouldn't happen because I didn't feel like I had something to offer to the world.
Malcolm Stern:I hear you have something to offer, nick, and I can see that this will grow and have you back as it's expanding as well. So I'd like to thank you very much for your contribution today and for being a part of this series, and I wish you loads of luck with what you're doing, and I really hear that you're looking at playing your own part in making a change in the world.
Nick Jarvis:Most definitely 100%. It's all about the environmental and social impact we can make. And you know, we're not just another opportunity or platform, we're a movement. You know we're a movement for change in the world, you know. So that's what we're all about.
Malcolm Stern:There's a saying that says nothing is so powerful as an idea whose time has come. So hopefully, time has come for your idea and your plan. Thank you so much and it's been really really good chatting with you today.
Nick Jarvis:So grateful. Thank you so much for the time. Malcolm Really appreciate you Thank you.
