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EP.21 - Unlocking Your Authentic Self: A Projectors Journey of Self Acceptance with Coach Khanyi
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In this episode Maike gets magnetic with Khanyisa Mnyaka, a life coach, TEDx Speaker, Entrepreneur, and author of You Belong Here. Khanyisa shares her story of struggling to find acceptance while growing up in a religious community, masking her true self, and how a journey to South Korea became the turning point that allowed Khanyi to embrace her true identity. They also get into Khanyisa's work as a coach, self-acceptance, radical self-love, and the pressures within the coaching industry, particularly regarding finances and maintaining authenticity.
Key Takeaways:
- The impact of radiant influence and social media presence as a reflection of one's true self.
- The challenges of authenticity and acceptance of sexuality within a conservative community.
- The effects of depression and shame leading to overcompensating by excelling to mask one's true self.
- How addiction can lead to embracing one's true identity.
- The role of faith, spirituality, and overcoming past traumas in achieving a fulfilling life.
- The concept of energetic authenticity and its importance for personal and professional alignment.
- How to embody and balance both masculine and feminine energies to navigate life effectively.
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Every now and then magic happens. And that's exactly how I feel about my encounter with Kinesa. And. I was doom scrolling on TikTok, just randomly, like I do when I'm PMSing. And if you've ever been on TikTok, you know that that is a sea, a mass of faces, people giving you advice, telling you how you should live your life.
But when Kinesa's video showed up on my feed, I was immediately magnetized. Her [00:01:00] radiant beauty, the love in the words that she speaks, the way that you feel when you watch her talk is so expansive, so deeply loving that she caught my attention immediately. And I'm like, I have no idea who this woman is, but I need to get her on the podcast.
And I was so incredibly surprised when she agreed to be on the podcast. I was so excited. I was like, Oh my God, I get to talk to Vanessa. And we hadn't even talked yet. And it's so interesting because I feel like I'm sure you guys can relate to this. There's just these people that you don't know, but you know, for me, one of the biggest compliments that people make me when they meet me in real life is like, Oh, Micah, you're exactly.
Like who you are on social media. And I'm like, yeah, obviously, of course, are people not who they pretend to be on social media? Like what? So apparently that's not, that's actually not the way it works, which is always so [00:02:00] mind blowing to me. But Kenisa and I really feel like we are. Like, very similar, and I really, I don't know, we just have this immediate kind of like kinship.
There is this energy and resonance when we're conversating and just when we're hanging out together, and I don't know if this is because we're both projectors, or because we're both Capricorns, or just because this is sometimes things that happen, but I find it to be such a gift. To have been able to cross path with her and now have this contact with her because she is somebody who just enriches your life with just their pure existence and isn't that fucking awesome.
And so Kenisa agreed to be a guest workshop speaker for. Light Supreme, the April edition, and we just clicked and hit it off. And it was such a beautiful, beautiful class that I couldn't wait to dig into her life [00:03:00] story. And so Kanisa really has an incredible unraveling of her personal authentic self that has inspired her to really want to help and support other women to embrace radical love and let go of people pleasing tendencies.
And I know that people pleasing is something that a lot of you struggle out there. And I think Ines approach of really understanding that the only way that we can move throughout and into the life that we dream of having is through absolute radical self acceptance and self love. And so, In this conversation, we really are just two curious souls that feel deeply, deeply passionate about our work, about our purpose, and supporting other people, about our innate capacity with our focused auras to deeply, deeply see [00:04:00] the pain and the potential of the people that are in resonate with us that become our clients that we meet in real life.
And so this conversation is an incredible deep dive into Kinesis personal, beautiful story of revelation into her own authentic self. And the importance of showing up is who we are because only when we allow ourselves to embody our authentic self, we're able to be seen and fully loved for our essence.
And that is something that is worth fighting for. So join me in this beautiful, magical conversation, get to know Kinesa and just hang in there. In this beautiful resonance of the frequency of this pure, loving, inspiring conversation. We have so much fun together. We go incredibly deep. At [00:05:00] some point, there's a tear rolling down my face.
And the thunder in the U. S. I don't know where she is in the U. S. currently. But the thunderstorm outside is kind of like supporting the intensity of her words. It's a truly magical. Episode. I can't wait for you to listen to it. So with no further ado, let's get into it.
So thinking I was a generator, right? Um, in my work, especially stepping into speaking, which I love to do. Um, And I also like have to not have to, but I want to reach out to universities and all of that stuff. I find it so cringe to do that part of the work. It's almost like I'm doing something that I should be outsourcing.
Like I don't want to sit and email the conferences and email the schools. Like I just want to be the person who gets invited to speak. And then I show [00:06:00] up and I've been saying this to the universe. I'm like universe, You know what I want to do, please, like, and you know, I don't want to sit and write the emails and I just wanted to come.
Yes. And you know why this is so interesting? Because we still believe that we can only get what we want if we do not listen to our internal system. You, your body, your soul is telling you that doesn't feel right. So you're like, Oh, outsources. But actually the thing that I've realized is that as a projector, you need an invitation.
And even if you outsource, you could even, you know, like I have people be like, Oh, does Micah pay for having people on the podcast? I'm like, no, I'm not going to pay. Not because I love, like, I love paying people, but not because I don't pay, but it's because I need there to be a recognition and I cannot force somebody who has a million followers to recognize me because I'm paying them to be on the podcast.
You know what I mean? I hear you. [00:07:00] I hear you. I feel the same way about that. And then I have people who have a large following and they don't care. You know, they really just don't care. They're like, I know followers don't, doesn't make me a better person. And I think you're cool. And I want to like, hang out with you.
You know what I mean? And this is so interesting. Right now I'm going through it. Uh, for the last year, I've been trying to listen to all of these marketing people telling me how I meant to do things and then like, guys, I don't believe in this, this doesn't feel right. I do not buy things like this. I don't work like this.
This doesn't, this wouldn't reach me. And I am my own dream client. And it took me a year, Connie, a year in this month, we're, And I knew it all the time. I was telling everybody, I'm like, this is not how it's supposed to be. This is not how it's supposed to work. The frustration, the unaligned people, the stress,
the pressure, the failure, the try again,
the continuous play.
Like, thank [00:08:00] God it failed because that never felt right in my heart. Thank God it
failed. I was on a call with someone who was like in the same thing, right? They see you have a big following and they're like, we're gonna bring build your sales funnel. And I finally said to someone, okay, fine. Build me one.
And she comes back to me, she's lovely. And I really, really liked her. And she was like, my coach said, you charge too little for your group coaching program. I was like, oh yeah. What do they think I should charge? And she was like, he thinks you should charge $2,000. Right? And for a second, I considered it.
And I had a client right after and I said, it is so crazy that you can have a moment where your mission gets challenged. And I was like, I started the group coaching program to work with women who can't afford therapy, who can't afford coaching. And I was like, I'm going to serve you. As though you are paying me the most because I really, really wanted to help.[00:09:00]
And I was like, I want to coach women. My mom is my dream client and my mom died a really long time ago. And my mom is a dream client and she would not have afforded coaching or therapy. And I was like, my God, like. To have someone question your mission and for you to actually take that second to consider it, and it's the most human thing to do.
But then when I sat with myself after, I was like, that felt so yucky to my body. It felt so yucky for someone to be like, You know, you're offering a lot. You can, they're like, you can make a hundred thousand dollars a month. And I'm like, this is not why I do the work that I do. I don't do this work to make a hundred thousand dollars a month though.
Fuck for what? Because then I am running this machine of capitalism and Patriot, you know? And it's just like, I don't want to participate in that because then I lose my mission. I lose the why of why I'm of why I'm here.
I love that. And that resonates so deeply. I think it's so [00:10:00] beautiful that you have your mom as your dream client.
Like that is such a beautiful, beautiful, like vision holder. Um, and I totally agree. The thing that I find so fascinating about projectors is that we're really here to make things more affordable, faster, more efficient, easier to understand, practical, like we're not here to invent anything from scratch, but we're really here to streamline things.
And so the gift of the projector is that you actually know how to make things easier. The question is, do you believe it can actually be that easy? So we have made, this week has been probably one of the, this week we're at day eight. Literally this week has been probably. One of the most abundant weeks in my business life, and it has been the most easy flow Resistance free no stress.
Nope. Like it's I can't[00:11:00]
I've been like I swear I've been searching for this path I've been searching. I knew it. I was working on it and I was trying to figure it out and I couldn't figure it. And I don't know if this is forever, right? Maybe it's just this month, whatever. I don't care, but it's crazy. I'm like, this is it. This is what I knew all the time.
And now it's here. And I'm like, yes, yes. Thank you God. Oh,
it's so wild.
I love it. I have ease tattooed on my shoulder. Oh, okay. And. I know I spent, I spent two months in Mexico and I had just like transitioned from a relationship that felt very difficult. There were easy parts in that relationship, but for the most part, it just felt so hard.
Like we had faced the pandemic, we'd face homelessness together. We'd face, I think it just felt like. This pressure. And when I got to Mexico, I was like, I want ease. I [00:12:00] want things that feel easy. I want life to come easy. I want money to come easy. I want joy to come easy. I want relationships to come easy.
I want love. I don't want, I don't use the word hustle. I don't want to hustle anymore. And I just, so I went and I was like. Give me ease right here. And when I find myself in those moments where I'm feeling the need to hustle, I just go ease. So, yes, yes, yes. That is such a beautiful mantra to have. It started pouring here.
I can hear it. I love it can hear me. I think it's the, I honestly, I think rain is the sexiest shit ever. Like I love when it rains, but also, but also I live in Spain so it doesn't rain that often. When it's. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously.
I was going to say
sex
when it's raining. The best.
The sex. The best. I think it's
because there has to, there has to be like some nervous system soothing going on that just allows you to relax because you're like, I can't go [00:13:00] out, I can't really do anything.
Like your mind is. Yeah. pretty present, I guess, but it's, I, I honestly, that's my first, like, every time it rains, I'm like, now sex would be great.
Okay.
I need
your birth time. Okay. 415 in the morning, January 1st of 1985. Yes,
I got
that.
Um, how's your jet lag? You seem to have had the best time ever in London. London is such a cool city to be. It's very interesting.
It was, it's also like, can we, can we be real for a second?
Yes. Yes, please. Let's
be real. It's, it's, it's also, so it was beautiful and I was there with my partner.
So a lot of, you know, how I was like, Posting in my stories. I don't know if in my stories, but I'm just like posting hands and stuff, which has been fun because they were soft launch launch.[00:14:00]
But I feel so blessed that she was there because it goes so hard. The work part of it, like the person who invited me to London. Completely ditched.
The event
was not, yeah, it, it, it, it was, honestly, it turned into a bit of a shit show, but I was lucky because I had a relationship with the person who owns the big bookstore that I was speaking at.
And so she like, and her and I actually hung out. We were both in South Africa and we got to meet in person and really liked each other. So she just had to take over. Um, but I'll tell you this though, when I was in South Africa, I had a moment where I was like, should I be going to London? And my body said, no.
I remember I had to do a visa and I was with my brother and I was going to pick up this visa and I was like, well, if it doesn't work out, she's just going to come to Cape Town and we'll have the best time ever. [00:15:00] And my brother looks at me and he's like, it sounds like you don't want to go. And I said to him, I think there's a big part of me that doesn't want to go.
Should have listened. I should have listened to, to that thing, to that intuition, to a point where when I was in London, I was like, I will never ignore that voice that says, this is not it. This is not it. This is not the moment. It's going to come, but this is not the moment. Wait for the right one because this is beautiful.
This is so beautiful because I just opened up your chart and I'm seeing that you have what we call emotional authority in human design and the authority in human design is the way that human design helps us make the best decisions. So contrary to what society tells us, that the best decisions come from like, Breaking your head on a, you know, on a thing or like making a list of pros and cons.
Actually, you have an internal guide. And when you're listening to that internal voice, your body is so much [00:16:00] smarter than anything your mind could conjure up. So your mind is fantastic to find solutions to problems. Your mind is fantastic to get inspired, but it's not here to make decisions. And you have a very intense desire.
specific way of making decisions. And that is that you have an emotional authority, meaning you need to wait minimum 24 hours to three days or more to actually be able to make the right decision. Okay. So if you look back on how fast you responded to that London invitation. That will be super interesting to look at
because I guess,
yeah, so this is so interesting.
So this is what happens. Okay, you have this defined solar plexus. The solar plexus is the energy center that is connected to your emotions. You are emotionally dominant, which means. That you might be a little bit moody sometimes. Okay, you can be in a great [00:17:00] mood, but you can also have like strong emotional lows and they're not bad.
None of this is bad or good. It really just is. And so what happens is that you have this unique way of processing your feelings and your emotions. And so, There are days where you're high and you're like, Oh my God, you know, that is the, the emotional high is sexy. It's charismatic. It pulls people in. It like makes people feel the intensity that you feel in life, but the low also can influence people.
And so no matter how much you want to appear that everything's great. If you're an emotional low, people like me who are emotionally open, we will take in that energy and amplify it. We can sense that. And so. You really have this beautiful depth of life experience every time you go through an emotional low that depth is teaching you something about your own capacity to like withhold this intensity of feelings that you have.
And so you're meant to feel out all of the decisions in your [00:18:00] life until you find a point of clarity. So once you move through that emotional wave. You will have a moment of being clear, calm, and collected, and that's when you're meant to make the decision. Okay. Okay. So what can happen is you get an email and you're like, Hey, I would love to invite you to talk in London.
And as a projector, you're like, Oh my God. Yes. An invitation. Nailed it. Okay. Yes. Yes. I want to do it. Okay. It just came. Exactly. And then. You know, two days later or a day later, you're like, Oh man, why did I say yes? I wasn't really sure about this. I don't really know this person is this, you know, like you can have doubts and then you might be regretting, or you're like, Oh my God, I I'm in Cape town.
I'm visiting my family. Like, I just want to chill there. Why am I making things complicated? Like whatever it is. And then you said yes, but actually you're realizing you don't want to do it, but it can be the opposite. You could be in an emotional high. You get an opportunity or no, sorry, the other way you can be an emotional low, you get an [00:19:00] incredible opportunity and you're like, no, like, I'm not feeling that I don't even know how I want to be a coach anymore.
Like, whatever. It could be very dramatic, you know? And then three days later, you're like, Oh no, why did I say no to this? This was an incredible opportunity. So really. Creating this like natural conversation around, like, thank you so much for this opportunity. Let me get back to you in a day or two, we'll give you that freedom to really feel if something's right for you or not.
There are, I love that. And like also exploring my own lack sometimes in, in saying yes, right. Because there's also the lack mindset is like, well, what if you lose the opportunity? What if you miss out? What if you, what if those two days it gets taken? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, yes, of course,
the beauty in that is that, and this [00:20:00] is for me, the biggest lesson in human design is that you build a trust muscle, but it's safe for you to be energetically authentic.
So I love your story. And we're going to get into that in a moment because it's so rooted in authenticity and how much breakthrough and freedom and like, how much You know, your life got better by being able to embrace your authenticity, but then there's also energetic authenticity. And so, for me, there's also energetic trauma.
So, we can, you know, be very conditioned by society and the way we're allowed to show up. Like, even yesterday, I had, you know, I was answering some questions on my Instagram and there were so many people telling me like I got dumped by my boyfriend because I'm a projector and I have like, like they didn't like that.
I lacked energy. And I'm like, that is such a weird reason to break up. You know what? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But I got a couple of people like, actually the question was like, I'm kind of annoyed at my partner because they're a projector and I don't like that. They don't have energy. So there is really something about this energetic [00:21:00] thing that can trigger us that we have been shamed around that, you know, like, we don't feel safe.
The beauty in knowing that you have an emotional authority is that anything that won't be able to wait for you to make the most aligned. Decision was not meant for you in the first place, you know, um, and you know, what's also really cool about that specific emotional wave. Like you can have different emotional waves.
Your emotional wave is all about bringing spiritual abundance into the world. Like that is your energy, your emotional energy, like you're strongly motivated by sharing your emotions to connect people with spiritual abundance. Shut the f Can we curse? Shut the f
k up.
Because It's so funny. I was just having this conversation.
There's a book that I, I forgot the title of it, but it teaches you like, it tells [00:22:00] you what you're here to learn and what you're here to teach. And I read this a few years ago and what it had said about me was I was, I'm here to teach that you can be. Wealthy and spiritual at the same time that's right in my past lives That's so crazy.
It's because apparently in my past lives. I was I was either or And in this lifetime, I'm here to teach that you can,
you can be both. I love it. I mean, you'll have a lot of really powerful things. Another thing that I really love that I think resonates deeply with you for a projector, you're very like a strong projector.
You have a lot of defined energy centers. So. You are also what we call an energetic projector. So we have like the regular projectors. We have the mental projectors that only are 1%. They have like a defined Ajna or crown and you're an energetic projector, meaning that you have, um, a defined root center.
You have actually defined motor centers, but like the root is a very predominant one. [00:23:00] Um, and so you actually feel often that you could be a generator or that you could like move with the intensity of the, you know, like current way of working, but still you'll have to wait for the, for the invitation. But this is not what I wanted to say.
What I wanted to say, which I think will resonate deeply is that you are here to stand up for what you believe in. And so you will be hardheaded and you will take the harder road, the more difficult road, because you know that the struggle is worth. To be able to do what aligns with your values and you will fight for that till the end.
Like you are meant to stand up for the things that you believe in, no matter how hard the path and your friends can be like, honey, you could make it easier on you. And you're like, no, I know that this is the way this is the only way. And I need to stand up for these values that I [00:24:00] have.
That's so, this is so interesting.
I, um. I feel so seen in, in, in most of it. Cause I, someone was like, what is your, what is your red flag? And I said to her, when I have a belief, I, I'm in, I'm, I can be very inflexible. Right. If I, if, if I believe in a thing, it takes a lot to make me change my mind about that thing, especially if it's like around justice and, and humanity and all of that, like it takes a lot.
I'm not gonna flop. So this is so cool.
Um, so Connie, tell me a little bit about your journey to authenticity, because I think like, um, you were part of the Light Supreme workshop. And I think it was such a beautiful story to hear. And I'd love for you to share it. Um, you were visiting Cape Town, which is like the, uh, So tell me, how did you get here?
Oh, how, how did I get here? It was, I, um, [00:25:00] so the story for me starts with growing up in the church and while in the church, realizing that I was gay and being in a space where I was indirectly told that there was something wrong with who I was. From the Twitch. You know, I knew I was gay, right? But you can hear how people talk about queer people.
And spending, so I became a Christian at 14 years old, which I think is like really, really young to have to make that type of commitment. And throughout that entire time, I spent my life hiding. Um, and in that hiding, I really, it was. I call it suffering, you know, he is this 14 year old and I was doing the most, like I talk about how when I was in the church, I was singing in the choir.
I was dancing in the dance team. I was an usher. I was like every, I was there all the time. And [00:26:00] the reason for being there almost now, when I look back at it, it was like compensating For knowing that I don't belong here. And I'm constantly told that I don't belong here. And so I then became very depressed when I went to university and university was hard too, because that's when I had my first experience, my, my first same sex experience with someone who was also in the church.
So we were both living in shame together. Basically it was like a shame cluster fuck. And I, and then at 25. I finally, I moved to South Korea and I was like, for me, my move to South Korea wasn't even about, Oh, I want to go experience a new culture in your country. All of that. It was like, if I don't leave, leave South Africa, I'm literally going to die.
Like it just felt like such a life or death decision. And when I left South
Korea too, sorry, can you, um, explain a little bit? [00:27:00] How that felt as a 14 year old or as a like young teenager navigating your early twenties. How was the experience of that shame in your body? Like, was there, because, you know, like a lot of times we start self harming.
We have very low self worth behavior. We, you know, we do drugs. We like, whatever, have casual sex. Like there's so many ways that manifest. Is there, was it for you, the overcompensating? Because that can also be a way like to be super perfectionist. Oh, I'm so exciting. You know, like I'm curious to see how that struggle and pain manifested.
I think for me, it was the overcompensating. It was being like, you know, I was even the cousin who was the good cousin. When people were lately yelling at their kids, they'd be like, why can't you be like Kanye? Right. Um, and, and, and that perfectionism was something that I was like, well, I'm just going to be the good kid create cause no harms.
And, and I think because of church and being really scared of my grandmother, [00:28:00] it didn't manifest in ways that were painful. I did go through a really, I remember being 15 and having some very dark suicidal ideations. Um, and part of that was because I was in a household with a very mean stepfather. So it was just like a compounded thing of a lot, a lot of shit that was going on.
And how that shame manifested for me though, was just like, Being amazing at everything. Like I was always going to be, if I was in the room, you were going to know that I was in the room and I was in the room being good.
Amazing. That's just so interesting to, to see. It's interesting because I know like, this is not, this is not, um, super on the line of what we're talking, but it's very interesting because the, my grandmother from my mother's side, um, was born an orphan, so she didn't have parents and then she was adopted.
And because of that constant feeling of [00:29:00] I have to, like, be worthy that they have, like, taking me in, there's also this very strong streak of perfectionism that my grandma had, and the strong belief of, like, nobody loves me. And so I see this in my mother as well was like a type a personality and it's really like that genetic trauma that just like is continuing to like this being.
So perfect judging everybody extremely and then themselves needing to be like the most perfect up to part because they feel so unlovable and they feel so not worthy and they felt so not, you know, if you've been literally abandoned as a baby, like the, it's a clear message, we don't want you, we don't love you and having to constantly overcome and I can, I can sense that there is like a similarity and like just the emotional experience.
So the labor, you know, it's so. Yeah, it's so crazy how we just see certain things, you know, and we can't perceive. Like [00:30:00] everything looks perfect and nice and whatever, you know, and we can't perceive the actual story behind it. Yeah. And I like,
like you touched on something that felt familiar with your mom and your grandma, like the, the judgment that they had of other people.
Cause I went through the same thing where I projected. And so in my projection, I was very, very homophobic. Right. Like super. I was like, y'all are going to make a lot of sense. You know, because I was projecting how I was feeling about myself and of course, and I was putting that on someone else.
Yeah. Okay.
So then you moved to Korea. I moved to Korea.
I moved to Korea and I get there. And, um, in my book, actually, my book is called you belong here. I talk about how, when I packed my bags to go to South Korea, I thought I was going to leave the depression behind, but it just found a way, got in that suitcase. It came with.
And because in, in my [00:31:00] head, I was like, I'm going to go to a new country. I'm going to, it's going to be fun. I get there. The shame is still there. The depression is still there. And what I do is I mask it by drinking a lot of alcohol. I spend most of my weekends drunk the first six months in South Korea.
And it wasn't until a friend said to me, and I was still like in dresses. I was still pretending to be straight. And, and a friend of mine who was gay says to me, you know, you can be whoever you want to be here. He was like, you can even change your mind if you want to. And that was a moment for me where I was like, Oh, I can be myself here.
And I know exactly who that person needs to be. Um, and so I came out, I came out to my family and it was hard. And what I think Maika, we don't talk a lot about authenticity is that it costs you [00:32:00] stuff that when you choose to live in your truth, it is for a lot of people, it's not this big celebration that everyone is like, yeah, you, you did it.
You are met with so much resistance and a lot of us are met with a lot of rejection. And I feel like in the space of spirituality and healing and coaching. We need more voices that tell the truth about authenticity. Um, because we don't, I remember listening to Oprah, she's like, be authentic. And I was like, I'm a be authentic.
Like Oprah said, so, but Oprah doesn't say that authenticity might cost you your friends and your family and your community. And for some people, your job. And for some people, depending on where you are in the world, it might cost you your life. Right. Life. And so we don't really have conversations around that.
And I do. I, I choose to, because I realized [00:33:00] that being authentic for me, it wasn't a song and dance. It was fighting every single day to be like, it's okay that you want to reject me. I'm not going to change my mind. I'm not going to be different. This is who I am. And I am already. And here's another thing with authenticity.
City. People think that when you choose to be authentic, then you accept yourself. The battle with authenticity is that you have to accept parts of yourself that you have spent years rejecting. That's not going to be easy. You're not going to wake up one morning and be like, this is who I am. And I love and embrace myself.
You go, this is who I am. How do I learn to love and embrace
myself? Absolutely. I, I think that that's such an important point to be talking about. I think there's also, you know, like the moment that you step into who you actually are, it also again, triggers a lot of people because there's so many parts of them that they are [00:34:00] not able to accept, right?
Mm
hmm. Like.
That is that in the end, that is that when I see you being free, you're making my hidden, shameful, unlovable parts, like claim out to me and be like, look at her, she's free, and she's okay with not being perfect, and she's okay with embracing things that might be against our beliefs, or that are like, you know, how do I deal with all of my parts that I've been hiding for years, and that I, you know, have been trying to, and it doesn't have to be something like being, you know, queer, but just anything, it could be any kind of shame that we have that just gets pressed down.
And that was my experience. And the reason why I'm so passionate about human design is because I felt so much shame for who I was. I always was like, why can't I fit in? Why am I not able to be successful? Why am I able to do this? And that, why am I always Like, I don't have energy. Why have I [00:35:00] tried everything and nothing's fucking working.
And the moment that I found out that I was a projector, it just was like, that's it. I'm not meant to be doing things like other people. And I swear, everything in my life suddenly made change, made sense. Because I was like, Oh, okay. It is okay for me to be how I am. I am safe the way that I am. I don't need to change who I am.
I don't need to because I was like doing drugs and like anything to continue, like to keep hustling and trying to make it and working 18 hours a day. Like I was completely misaligned with my energetic authenticity and I was like dark, dark rock bottom, like. The shame that we feel can really propel us into a lot of darkness, a lot of darkness.
Um, and so the moment that I was able to just have that acceptance for who I was authentically, I was able to release [00:36:00] anything that didn't see me for who I was. You know, because I didn't need other people's acceptance anymore. I didn't need other people to be like good or not good, or I approve or I don't approve or whatever.
And it's taken me years, honestly. I think my mom is like, still not sure that this human design thing is doing something. And I have like this six figure business. Not that I need to brag about this, but it's like, I mean, I quit, but you know, I quit school when I was 16. I don't have any like proper education and I've had a ton of life experience and I like.
I've lived through shit. So I hopefully have something important to share. And I would say people I work with agree with that. Right. But it is incredible. Like my mom heard somebody else talk about human design and then she's like, Oh, what's that? A human design thing you're doing. And I'm like, no, mom, no.
Like what? Um, And I swear, I was like, Oh my God, why, why does this have to be like that? But the thing is like, I'm already so proud of myself now that I have achieved so many [00:37:00] things that I never thought that I could achieve that for years I was struggling and crying myself to sleep and just like begging, please, you know, God, the universe, light, whatever, like, please show me the fucking way.
Oh my God. And it's so crazy. So now it's like the, I don't know, at some point she's like, Oh, I checked your website. It's nice. And I was like, okay. Thanks. But the thing is like now before I was so like in need of my parents appreciation, And now like, I don't, I don't really care. I'm proud of myself. And that's the coolest
shit ever.
I love that. You spoke about something that I talk about quite often with my clients and it's, it's come up recently. And that's the idea of holding a mirror. When we change our lives, when we choose ourselves, our immediate circle, they're not going to be the first people to jump for joy and support us because what we're doing.
is [00:38:00] holding a very uncomfortable mirror. I had a client of mine be like, they, they like literally rejecting me. And I was like, it's because you're holding a mirror. And that mirror is like, look, you can too. Look, the situations that we're in are really toxic. The marriages were in a toxic, it's like a group of wives, you know?
And, and, and she was like, they, they just telling me to stop. And that I'm, I'm, I'm causing divorce and all this thing. And I was like, and that's because you hold up a mirror when we decide to like either change jobs, right. Or step out of whatever comfort zone. And, and there's community there, right. Down to changing how we eat.
Right. And people are like, well, I think you're better than everybody. And it's like, no, I don't think that. And some of us resist the change we want to make. Because we're not getting that support. And one of the things that you just said was like, I tell people all the time. I'm like, no one owes you support.
No one owes you love. No one [00:39:00] owes you self acceptance. No one owes you validation. None of that shit. You owe all of that to yourself and you will be doing yourself a great disservice by waiting for someone to give it to you.
I think that is so huge because there is this very like, I feel like I think it might come from like a victim mode or kind of coping mechanism this idea that anybody owes you anything like that is not the more you hope for somebody to give you something or you think somebody owes you the further away you're pushing that person the further away you're pushing that thing and the more you're able to create that sense within yourself the less you're I mean, it's the polarization of energy, really, you know, the more you're able to bring that in with yourself, the more you're going to attract it in.
The more you're looking at outside, the further you're pushing it away. So it's really, it can be very scary for a lot of people to be like, what do you mean? Like, of course they have to love me or they have to show me support, but it's so [00:40:00] empowering really to understand that. You are in the driver's seat of your life.
And then you, you, you can actually go ahead and do all these things with our support. And here's that victim would mentality to, um, which is really hard to break out of anyway, especially when you don't recognize it as that was someone, someone said to me, I had this. I created this content where I was like, sometimes people are waiting for you to do the thing.
Some of us are spewers versus doers. We're just talking and talking and talking and people are just so tired of supporting your million different ideas that you never actually work through. So they're sitting and they're like, we're going to support movement. But you are all complaining on the other side being like, no one supports me.
And it's like, maybe if you started moving, maybe you've started doing a thing, then they'll support you. I've seen that in my own life too, with my family, you know? And they'd be like, Hmm, you don't know. Are you really? And then when you start to move, you know, and then, and then they show up. There's that [00:41:00] too.
You know,
I, I'm the biggest fan of action. Like honestly, my whole thing is that. You know, especially in the spiritual niche or I feel like a lot of times people think they watch content on Instagram and then they're like, I'm healed. This is my therapy now. Um, and so, and so I see that with human design. I mean, it makes sense, right?
You are in pain. You're trying to find an explanation. You watch a 30 second clip and then you're like, the pain is gone. I feel better. I don't have to look at this anymore. Right. It will obviously continue to show up in your life because you haven't healed that aspect yet, but this is the thing. Like so many people try to hide behind learning and it makes sense, right?
It's way more safe to intellectualize things that actually building up the courage and creating a trust muscle with the universe that allows you To prove to yourself that you're divinely supported and that being authentic is actually the only way you can get anywhere energetically or personally, like it doesn't matter.
And so this is the thing, right? Like you were saying, Oh, it [00:42:00] costs me so much to be authentic. And that is true, but there's also the biggest gain that you can have because. Only when you're authentic, you will be seen for who you are and you will actually experience true love because the people that do resonate with your authenticity and that do love your authentic self, those are the people that are going to look into your soul and you're going to be like, wow, I am finally seen for who I am and I can be loved for who I am.
I love that. And even the. You spoke about this, like your business too. Like I resonated with that so much where it was like, even in my business, I was like, I'm authentic in my work. My work became the joy of my life when I showed up authentically with so much like, Someone said to me, you just share everything.
And I was like, because in sharing everything, I connect with the people that I want to feel seen, right? I want, I connect with people that [00:43:00] need to know that they're not alone and that there is a way out. And I can only do that by showing up so authentically. Like, I would, one of the things I don't even say is like, Oh, I'm, I'm.
Back, I'm queer. You're not going to see me wearing like a rainbow flag and any other stuff. And that's not because I'm hiding. It comes up when it comes up. But my work is it's, we are multifaceted human beings. And, and, and one of the things that I love to show up as is a traveler because it's part of who I am.
It's like, I don't travel to travel. I travel because it's my identity too. You know, it's, it's being black. I speak on blackness and queerness and being a woman too. Right. And I can only do that if I step into. The authenticity and I watched from like my social media to my business, to getting a TEDx talk, all these things that have happened in my life, I can truly honestly say they only started to happen when I did show up authentically in the work.
Yes, yes. And that is so interesting because we [00:44:00] have the old paradigm. Telling us like, Oh, you have to write this like catchphrase or hook or like, this is how you're meant to be speaking something or like, you know what I mean? We have all of these rules that somebody made up. Like that's the only way to get success.
But it is really true that I believe. 2000 percent if you want to reach your dream client, you have to show up authentically if you're doing things that are weird, if you're having other intentions than the pure intention of what you're saying you have, if you're trying to like, you know, manipulate people, create pressure or do weird things, the people that you're going to attract are going to be weird people.
Like because they resonate with weird ass shit, they resonate with not being truthful, with not feeling safe, with not knowing certainty, like there's so many things, and it's crazy because like, you know, we, we talk to so many people, like there's you know, you, you have a following, I have a following, and some [00:45:00] people, they're like, when things aren't done in alignment are like, wow, this is like a very like weird thing.
We tried doing ads for a while and I hate ads. We didn't even do them on my account. We did them on another account because I didn't want my authentic account to be like smutted with ads. And I love the ads. I like, I love my ads, but I hate that. I don't look at ads. I don't buy, like, I mean, I bought maybe like a sales template or for 39 or something like some But like, I don't usually Like that is not my aesthetic.
That's not something that resonates. And it's so interesting because the people who came through some, not all of them, but there were some conversations from people that made zero sense. Like it was so weird, so confused. And I really believe it's cause it just didn't feel good to my soul. It didn't feel good to my heart.
And there is
something about having like. A certain consciousness is in a certain sensitivity and sensibility that, you know, for me, when I have like business mentorships and we're [00:46:00] talking about the dream client, this concept of like an old white man creating a Barbie for like the black woman president kid, like it's the most ridiculous thing ever.
This is not working anymore. Yes, but that's exactly what's happening. Like call Mattel, like, you know, this is, this is not working anymore. This, we can only create things that are truly inspired by our own story and our own process and what we've been through. Like, Hmm. I do not believe that there is a way to, to create alignment and have a prosperous business with like a hidden agenda.
No, no. And, and I think also like, you know, I think we're both in like the coaching space, binding your voice sometimes can feel, I don't know if you get as many, like people wanting to write my emails for me, people wanting to create my sales funnel for me and I'm just like, and, and, and I'm like, you can't write my emails.
For me, you're not me. [00:47:00] And man, it is, it's such an interesting industry that I love, but it's also a very like money hungry, money driven industry where even the spiritual work, the spiritual coaching, it is like, it's like, what the actual fuck is happening here?
Honestly, this, I wanted to touch on that actually.
I think that this is, I don't know, this is maybe cause I'm like European, but for me, this is like a very American kind of like. thing that I've seen. It's like the manifestation coaches, they have coaches where they pay three times what they're charging their own clients. And so it's like this pyramid, everybody's coaching is paying somebody else's coaching ridiculous fees.
And so everybody's trying to justify their ridiculous expenses for like 30 K coaching. Like, I'm like, what are you selling guys? Are you studying gold? Like what's happening here? And then And, and they're lying, like they lie about their numbers. They lie about the results. They pretend like I bought this Porsche, but it's actually the husband who bought it.
Like, there's so [00:48:00] much insincerity because it's like, if I show that I made it, you will think that you will make it if you subscribe to my XYZ program. But I think this is like, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like this is a very like American. thing, like this kind of like hardcore coaching, selling stuff that feels scary to me.
It feels scary and it feels very yucky. And like, I've been in those spaces too, where they're like, Oh, we'll do like a five day free seminar. And when you're in the seminar, it's like, buy my coaching for ridiculous amounts of money. And I'm just like, I remember what made me stop to even go to those seminars.
I was like, I, I didn't become a coach to be coached by someone who's going to charge me 10, 000 on how to coach. I coach because my life has educated me. You can't teach me what I've lived. And that's [00:49:00] one. And number two, it's like, what feels good to you? In my body, what feels good to me in this, in this work is, is it's so, so important.
And I will, I'll even own right. Being seduced by it because it is seductive. Money is seductive, being seduced by like, and also questioning, like, why don't I drive a Mercedes Benz? Like, why am I not driving a Porsche? Like, I feel like it's coming.
I think it's going to come. I feel like two years from a Porsche.
But it's also like. I would, I would rather go live on a mountain in Columbia and continue the work and run retreats and serve. And that's, and that's not me. And I, and I'm like, if, if it's genuinely who you are and if it's genuinely what you're creating, like I get coaches that come to me and they're like, I want to be a coach too.
So I'm going to create a mentorship program for them. It's not going to be free. I don't want to lie, but like free mentorship, because no, no, no, no, no, no. When you pay, you pay attention. And I don't believe in giving free shit. That [00:50:00] is going to be. A number that makes sense. Right. So yeah, this is
also like, this is something that changes.
Like even for me, like a year ago, I, uh, I recently paid a mentorship, which was like for a month, two K and it was two one hour calls and there was like messages in between and I got a discount, but that was the most that I've ever paid anybody for any advice. I think it. Wasn't a bad investment for me.
It's just difficult to quantify that amount of money for like an hour session. But I think, you know, this is like an American person they're successful. They're the only person right now that I actually admire and what they're doing because they're creating a business that they're doing. From the heart and they're the only ones that are not doing the weird marketing strategies and they're having like a seven figure business.
So I really, I admire them. I think they have great intentions and that's the price that for him works. Cause other things maybe don't work, you know? So this is like the specific thing that works for him. That's how he's able to create the life he wants to create for himself. So, but if [00:51:00] you would have told me two years ago.
that price, it'd be like, that's insane. So also now I am in a different bracket of earning. So I also now understand different things. So one of the things that I've done recently is like, I stopped. Buying the thing that is not the thing that I actually want, but it's like a cheaper version of the thing I want.
And now, you know, like I, Oh
my God, it's so bad. I'm like, why don't I just buy the thing I actually want? Why do I have to buy the
cheaper version that is very similar, but not, I want the thing I want. So it's giving myself just the permission to be like, listen, you've earned this. It's okay if you buy the thing you want.
Is it too expensive? Probably, but we're moving mindsets here. We're like, we're changing, you know, we're opening abundance, uh, thoughts, but it's interesting that you say that because you're actually one of the 30 percent of the population. You have a defined ego. And so the ego in human design is nothing negative.
The ego in human design represents the material world, willpower, [00:52:00] and competition and comparison. And so because you have a defined ego, it is actually very natural to you to like things that are of quality and that are not. You know, have a certain luxury or like just the material world is something that isn't something you should shy away from.
So it's very natural for you to like good food, nice restaurants, you know, good travel. I like nice things. I like nice things. Yes, exactly. Me too. Me too. So the important thing is that we need to own that so we don't distort the world. You know, I think there's so much, and this is interesting thing also about projectors.
Projector signature, like the one thing that you're meant to focus on. Is success and it's success. It's making money and being recognized. And this doesn't mean compromising your integrity, right? But the interesting thing is that we live in a society where we are trained to believe that our goal is always success.
It's money. It's recognition, but it's actually only for us projectors generators and manifesting generators, which are the biggest part, [00:53:00] which are 70 percent of the population. They're meant to focus on satisfaction when they create a life that is focused on satisfaction. The collateral will be success and recognition and money, but that is not their highest focus.
And so I really believe that the spiritual business or the reason why there's a lot of shame around making money with coaching with things that are about sensitivity, spirituality. Health wellness is because manifesting generators and generators are the biggest part of humanity. And therefore it's okay for them to not charge because they can feel happy and satisfied just by doing, you know, a Reiki session on the side.
And I have my nine to five, but for projectors like us. When we get paid, it is a very clear sign of an invitation. So projectors do actually have a different way of understanding the exchange of money because we can fall into the trap of wanting to be recognized so bad, of wanting to be seen so [00:54:00] bad that we give our incredible wisdom and advice for free.
And that's when we feel bitter. That's when we are unaligned. That's when we are moving off track to our purpose. So actually having a monetary exchange, whatever feels right for you in the moment, right, these things change, but it's important because it's a very clear sign that somebody is actually inviting you.
That's a very clear invitation.
That's beautiful. That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. Cause when I started my business, I was giving free sessions, left, right, and center, and I was like, this doesn't feel good. I feel drained. My work is not feeling aligned anymore because that that exchange is feeling unhealthy.
Yeah, and it's lovely that you say the word drain because literally the way that I explain it is that your wisdom is the projector. It's like alchemized gold. It is really like these drops of beautiful, like super. Special unique wisdoms that you're here to share only with those that are like literally begging you for your advice.
And because we see the [00:55:00] rest of the world generators, manifesting generators, just having that energy and throwing their advice through the world, just doing the work, moving, moving, hustling, hustling, doing, doing. And they're doing it with such ease. You know, they're just like going on with their life. It's hard for us to understand that we operate different.
And so this waiting for the invitation is kind of like a self preservation, uh, mechanism. It allows us to constantly remind ourselves, like, listen, your, your information, the way that you see things is of so high value that you really need to be very sparing with that information, that wisdom. You can't just like go throwing that around.
Cause
you work at 3. Yes.
Oh my
God. Yes. I feel that. Okay. I feel that so much. Let's move to, we are in Korea. We're no longer wearing dresses. No. Um, what's happening? Tell me what happened.
We are in Korea. We come out. We think we're Shane from the [00:56:00] L word, but Shane is white. So that made no fucking sense at all to anybody.
Um, Okay. But we are also figuring out or moving through our own internalized issues about self where we're healing from our own. I don't know if the word is healing, but we're recognizing our own stories, our own internalized stories about who we are, our worth, how we show up in the world, who we get to show up as now.
And for the longest time, like, I feel like I'm finally. In a space now in my own spiritual journey, where I can embrace spirituality, embrace God, because when I came out, it felt like I had, I had no excess. to that. And now I'm like, actually, that's not true. I do have access to the universe. I do have access to divine energy.
And I am so blessed in so many ways because [00:57:00] it gets to look like what I want it to look like. My, my, the way that I commune with divinity and my ancestors in the universe gets to look like. how I want it to look like versus this prescribed idea of God from someone else. Um, and so part of that clearing for me, no matter how hard it was and where I am now, I am so grateful that I went through it.
I'm so grateful that I went through The anger towards God and the rage towards God and the rejection of church and the rejection of Jesus, because now I can accept them in ways that feel very healthy for me. So that was part of declaring when we were in, in Korea.
Yeah. Yeah. That is like a very potent thing.
I think there is such. It's, it's incredible because faith, whatever faith, right. It can be the spiritual, it can be with the ancestors. Like faith is [00:58:00] such an important thing for our wellbeing to be able to believe in something higher than ourselves is just such an essential part of just our existence as, as humans.
So actually. Not even the rage and the hate is so, so painful, but it's also like this disconnection from this higher power, you know, this, like, there is, there's two pains, the pain of the, the, you know, being against the thing, the rage and all of that. But then there is also the pain of being disconnected from the divine, being disconnected from a higher source.
So I think a lot of people that have been strongly influenced by an education that was very strict, very judgmental, very Christian. Mm-Hmm, , whatever, it doesn't even matter. Christian, Muslim, all religion. Not, I mean, not religion, probably not all. I'm not an, you know, I would say a big part of religions. I don't know all of the religion, but you know, very big part of religions, some is very frustrating them.
Yeah. Well, well, most, most, yeah. Um, so I, I've. [00:59:00] Really heard so many of those stories, um, and I think that, that a lot of people can identify with that. So what were your, how did you get into, like, really connecting to your own voice and, and, you know, how did you come into this idea of wanting to support other people to help them through maybe something similar you've been through?
Okay,
so now it's 2020. It is the pandemic. I am in a small apartment, 300 square foot apartment in the middle of Seattle. Um, broker shit. Um, I'm scared because the world is looking different. I have to pivot. Um, I'm always with my former partner at the time. And I remember sitting in that apartment and for the first time I said, there has to be purpose in this pain, right?
I was like, I think [01:00:00] there's something bigger that needs to come out of everything that I've been through, and I've been through quite a bit. Um, and I was like, there also has to be purpose in the strengthening that came with the shit that I've been through. When you realize that as a human being, you literally survived things that killed other people and, and that death doesn't necessarily have to be physical for some that death is, is spiritual for some that death is how they live their lives, right?
How they've just like literally given up. But here I am having gone through stuff that has completely stopped someone else. in their tracks and has defined their entire existence. So I was saying to Jesus the other day, I was like, I came up with this thing where I was like, your trauma can either inform you or define you.
And here I am having had or had been given the strength to look at my [01:01:00] trauma and everything that I've gone through as information. Rather than my identity and so here I am sitting in this apartment and I was like, I think there has to be something bigger that that I have to do with this life that there has to be more than this and and I was like, I'm going to turn it into purpose and coaching came up.
But also nice like, Hey, I'm gonna be a coach now and things are going to be easy. It was like, who do I want to coach? Why do I want to coach this people? This is why I say my mom is, is, is my client. Um, this is why my TEDx talk, my mom is the story in the TEDx talk. How I navigated my life because we, we as kids, we sponge.
And even though we're sponging things that we don't necessarily want, because it's all we know, that's how we start to navigate life, too. Have you ever felt like, Oh, I really hate this about my mom, but I am just like my mom in this thing. And so, [01:02:00] She's my ideal client in, you know, as one of those things.
And I started working and floundering and making all the mistakes that I am very quick to go into self compassion. Because I think mistakes are, we're supposed to, we're supposed to flounder. We're supposed to fuck up. We're supposed to fall. We're supposed to just like, keep trying to figure it out. Right.
So with my work too, I went through all of that. And honestly, I still do. I still go, Ooh, that London. Right. So constantly,
constantly, constantly. Oh my God. What am I going to tell you? Oh my God. But this is the thing. I feel like the beauty of having a business and having that radical responsibility for your life and how you want to live it and.
Connecting to your purpose and being able to contribute to the world in a positive way is that your business is equivalent to your own personal journey like your [01:03:00] business will make you fucking rise to the occasion like nothing else. There is no way you can elevate your business without you having to go through major growing pains.
Like the personal transformation it takes to move your business to where you want it to get. It's like a co creation. It's like fucking fascinating. It's so hard, man. But it's so cool also.
It's so cool also, but it's also like, Whoa, did it have to be this much? But
it's Really? Did I have to die? Did I have to spend a month crying on the floor of my bathroom?
Really? Fuck.
Oh my God.
Yeah. So, you know, this is how we found ourselves, how we found ourselves in the work. And I said, I said the other day, um, When I was in London, I told you it was with me. And after I, there was a day where someone who has followed me on social media for a very long time, she [01:04:00] messages me and she was like, I would love to spend the day with you.
So she books us a train. We end up in this town. She takes us to Oxford and like, I was like, yo, I'm on a date. This is my. This is my princess energy right now. She's, you know, she buys us breakfast. She takes us to our hotel that she paid for. And in the whole time she's looking at me and she's kind of like crying in and out.
And she's like, you saved my life. She was like, before I found you on the internet, I was not waking up in the morning and she's like, and now I wake up and I shower and, and I do my hair and I buy myself nice clothes and I go to nice restaurants and all these things. And she's like, yeah, there are some things that I'm yet to change.
And so we spend, I'm like, she really got herself 20 hours of coaching. And, and, but we spend this day. With this woman who found me doing work [01:05:00] and she's like, you saved me. And so at the hotel that night, I had a really nice little cry because I was like, when I started the work, I wanted to have that one person who gets to wake up in the morning because they saw a video and that for me is purpose.
And that for me is why I'm here. And that is something that. I want to do until I die, whether I get paid for or not, because there's no value to that. There's not a number you can put in helping someone recognize just how beautiful and phenomenal and worthy and enough they are.
That's a very deeply touching story and I love that the thunder came right in the moment of like something you were saying.
I know! You heard it! Yeah, I heard it was magical. I'm like tears. Oh my God. Um, you're, you're so right. And I think that that is exactly it. It's really, you [01:06:00] know, also at some point, like we see the followers going up on our social media and it's like, Oh, it's, you know, just like a number of people, but it's Every single fucking person is a real person with a real life, with a real struggle, with a real story, going through something real, real, and it's really incredible how we're able to reach so many different people and have an impact on, on different people.
And I honestly think, I think that is the most like. I want to bring it back to human design, but because we're so much more than this human design, but that is like the most projector. It's the most projector thing ever. It's exactly that. I feel all projectors, no matter what they do, they can be lawyers and athletes, but in essence, they have this incredible understanding of the potential of the human that they have in front of them because we have this focus penetrating aura.
That reads the soul of the person like nobody else. So it makes so much sense that you felt called to coaching, no matter how that looked like in the beginning. And it might look now and it will evolve and change. [01:07:00] It is exactly that. It is that deep capacity to see people in all of their beauty and all of their glory and love them, even though they can't love themselves.
Oh, that's gonna make me cry. Thank you. I love
that.
Connie! Thank you so much, so much for your time and your story and your beautiful energy. To wrap this up, I have one question. Now the thunder is thundering. Yeah. Um, so sexy. Okay. I'm about to go get in on this sexy.
Okay. I'm going to go and cook
dinner by myself.
Um, that's going to be fun. No rain here. Um, okay. Let's, let's focus. Last thing to wrap it up. This call, this podcast is called the soft power podcast.
And so
I would like to know [01:08:00] what soft power means to you.
It's funny. I was talking to someone about this today. Uh, when I was doing the Ted talk, someone came up to me and they said, you are both.
Soft and strong and it is such a rare Quality to find in one person because people are either or I would say soft power for me Is our ability to just rest in who we are and to not have this need to fight for who we are. And can you see like the way my body is going? I think soft power is. And, and, and it's, it, that's so personal to me because I was also recently called a present healer.
Someone said, you don't have to speak. He just can show up and be. And there's healing just in your present. And that's what soft power feels like to me. My ability [01:09:00] to just love and accept. I end all my lives by saying, I love you. And people are like, Mm, I'm like, I really do. I love you. And, and I love you for no other reason, but because you are a human being that is deserving and that's, and that to me is soft power, the way that our hearts have this capacity to expand and extend and allow.
That is so beautiful. You know how I end all of my emails. I don't care what anybody says, I love you.
Isn't that crazy? But you know what the, you know what the crazy part is? I swear when I saw you on social media, I don't even know, TikTok probably. When I saw you, your energy was like, Oh, I love you. like that it was this light loving energy and it's so rare like we are so bombarded with so much fucking content every day but you stood out because of that pure loving energy and it's radiant so it [01:10:00] makes so much sense that people say that to you because i experienced that too i agree i agree oh
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. I felt this somewhere about you. Look at, look at our energy.
Look at us. It's the Capricorn. Projecting. Projector Capricorn. Yeah. Like what? Man, it's such
a shame. Like we should have met earlier when you were in Europe. I could have like come. Maybe not to London, but I'm coming again.
I'll be in Germany end of June. Okay, cool. Let's see if we can like, yeah, see each other.
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