Things to Consider When Making a BIG Change or Move

When Linda and I took that daunting leap from our beloved Puerto Rico to the mainland, we became cartographers of change, mapping out a route through the emotional landscapes and logistical labyrinths of moving. Embark with us on a candid journey that spans from the trenches of job hunting in unfamiliar territory to the peaks of personal transformation. We navigate the emotional currents of leaving home and the practical elements of settling into a novel environment – all while sharing our own anecdotes of struggle and success that could very well be the compass you need for your own voyage.

Imagine setting foot in a new city, your dreams packed alongside your belongings, and the pulse of opportunity quickening your step. This episode peels back the layers of relocation, discussing the significance of the initial city choice, financial foresight for those pesky currency conversions, and the benefits of having a job lined up. We dissect the decisions that follow, from weighing the pros and cons of renting against buying, to comparing public transport with owning a car. It's a tale of two hearts taking on the world, and we chart the course for anyone braving their own relocation adventure.

But it's not all about the allure of new horizons – some paths are forged by necessity, with safety and survival as the guiding stars. We turn our gaze to those forced from their homelands, acknowledging the complexities they face and the resilience required to start anew. Whether it's the nuts and bolts of setting up your utilities, or the more profound considerations of moving with children or elderly family members, our conversation spans the spectrum of emotions and actions that shape the mosaic of moving. Tune in and let our experiences illuminate your path, as we share the wisdom of our journey and the lessons learned from uprooting life's delicate roots.

Transcript

Enrique: 0:00

Hello everybody. My name is Enrique and this is.

Linda: 0:02

Linda.

Enrique: 0:02

And today we're going to be talking to you guys about things to consider. Making a big change or a move could be out of state or out of the country. But first, honey, let's do a podcast. Hello everyone and welcome back to Honey, let's do a podcast. I am your host, Enrique, and this is my co-host, my lovely wife.

Linda: 0:24

Linda.

Enrique: 0:25

And today, as we said in the beginning, we're going to be talking to you about tips or things to consider when you're making a big move or a change. It could be an out of state change. Maybe you're going from one state to another in the US, or maybe it's a bigger change, like leaving a country you were born in and you're trying to make a move to a different country. Or like a lot of people we we see here in the United States, where it's a lot of people move and they move to the US.

Enrique: 0:51

Maybe there is a better economic opportunity, maybe many reasons, to be honest, but a lot of times it's usually a you know, they got a better chance. Maybe they're struggling in their country and they have a better chance of financial health here in the US, or they have a thing they think they can aspire to, aspire to more things over here. But basically one of those big changes, right? And it could go as simple as you can make. It go all the way down to as simple as just making a move from one house to another, to a different house. Maybe it's a house a little further out, maybe you were living the city and now you're rolling to a suburb and that's a big change for you, right? So we're talking about, you know, changes that can vary depending on the person.

Enrique: 1:35

Maybe for you that's a big change, or maybe you consider a big change just like that, just like moving through. Like, let's say, you go to Europe yeah, that's that would be considered a huge change, right? Different, you know, different cultures, different personalities. It's completely different to what you were born in, but basically we want to talk about it because we went through it. We're both from Puerto Rico and, even though that's not considered a country that's a commonwealth, but it is kind of like a country, because it's a it's an island right.

Enrique: 2:06

It's a different. You have to cross the ocean and the sea and all that to get to anywhere else.

Linda: 2:10

I think it's just bigger than that, because it's not just it's part of the United States, but it's not part of the United States. We have a different language.

Enrique: 2:19

It's a territory. It is territory, yeah, yeah.

Linda: 2:22

And the person changing from a place that have one language to a different language is very challenging. Yeah, but we have at the same time, we also have some benefits, like we are American citizens since we were born, so that gives us advantages Like we don't have to do visa processes and stuff like that, so let me get a little bit easier.

Enrique: 2:44

But I was going to say is that a lot of people in the Puerto Rico are taught English as well, so there's a lot of them.

Enrique: 2:54

Maybe you might say there's a lot that don't, that are not taught that, but there's a lot that are taught it. So you know there's that two language barrier. A lot of people do have it over there. So making a leap for some people maybe 30 percent of the island is not that difficult to make the leap. Maybe there there's a bigger gap. Yeah, there is kind of difficulty, but I'm saying in terms of language barrier, I don't think that's the big issue.

Enrique: 3:17

It's more just the thing that you're actually leaving, crossing Ocean Sea, to get to a different place. Now you're far away from family or far away from friends. It's not like easy as all. Let me go to a different city and I just drive two hours and I go see you guys on the weekend. No, it's not as simple as that anymore. You know you're making a bigger change than that. So that's what I'm referring to. In our case it was, you know, pretty big change. Even those things considered. It was a place where we knew the language. It was a place where we used the same currency, because it's a dollar.

Enrique: 3:51

It's a difference and it's part of the US, like you said. So we do have the you know the passports and citizenship and all that. So that makes the transition obviously easier than other people that have to go through visas and all that other stuff and going from other countries, which you know makes the transition a little harder. They got to get a work visa or, you know, apply for one or whatever. The case may be Right, but in our case we just went through it. So we thought we could give you guys some tips or some you know tendencies that you might encounter as you go through it. And I think my wife had a couple of things that she wanted to go through first and wanted to talk about, about some of the nitpicks that you guys can go through.

Linda: 4:34

Yeah, and I think in our case, the main reason that we moved was because of me. So I was looking for better opportunities, better work, life opportunities, and the first thing that I looked was what are the places that I want to live, what are the places that I want to move? So I just only apply for a job on the cities that I wanted to work and I have a list like, oh, I think, my top five cities, and I send only and it's specifically to those five cities. And then Enrique actually helped me with the resume and preparing all the stuff that I needed, and my English was very basic when I when I was applying for job opportunities. He studied in a better school at that time, so his English was far better than mine. So he was able to translate some of the information that I was missing in the translating, translating process and just he was pretty much guiding me to understand a little bit better what the information from each of those job opportunities was referring to.

Enrique: 5:47

It was mainly a change for her because, you know, I had a job over there. She was just finishing college, you know her degree in architecture, and she had an opportunity for a job here in the US and one of the Opportunity got what's here in Houston, where we live. Now, mm-hmm, she doesn't work with that particular company anymore, but that's the one that actually cut her to cross the boat as I say like cross, you know they take the bridge over and switch, and you know it was kind of like Really fast.

Enrique: 6:24

Everything happened pretty quickly. I don't think there was a lot of time to process once you got accepted or she got a made an offer. Everything moved pretty fast. So we didn't have a lot of time to think and we had things to do. We had things that we had to do in which we were talk about those things in a little bit, but Basically, sometimes you, you have to just make the, you know, make the decision and just go for it right and and and a lot of things will happen as you, that's you go through it. But the good thing that I can say and this is going a little bit ahead of myself, right but the good thing I can say about us was that we were both really young. We didn't have any anything right. We didn't have any house I live with. I was still kind of living After college, so I was still kind of living you were living your parents yeah yeah, you know, I had that apartment.

Enrique: 7:19

We were in an apartment for a little bit when we kind of moved back To my parents and then you had your apartment. But you know it was small, like we didn't have a lot of things. We didn't have any, obviously, any kids we have any anything. We just had dogs. So we do have pets. That's one thing we had to consider, the pets but but there was not really anything major in us like obviously if you make a move and you have three kids and you have a big family.

Enrique: 7:44

You have a house that's that's a way Bigger thing to just make that big leap right. So in our case it was less, it was easier in that regard. But you know there's still things that it, specifically, if you're a young person, you'll probably have to go through most of the things we're going, because you're probably in the same boat. Maybe you just finished college. When you're in college, you're just living in a dorm or you're renting an apartment, so you're gonna be in the same boat. You don't have a lot of things. You don't have a lot of Big things tying you somewhere where you have to oh, it's hard to leave, or you know it's a lot easier to make that decision. But yeah, linda, what we're a couple of things. I know you you research a little bit about this Couple of the tendencies or the. You know.

Linda: 8:26

So the first thing that you need to consider is, for sure, where are you going to move? And then, while you do that, you also need to plan ahead of Financially speaking, because you need to know, okay, how expensive is this city that I'm moving to, or this another location? If there is a different type of currency, what is the type of currency and what is?

Linda: 8:46

the exchange Right exactly what is it change, and the language, obviously, if there is a different language. And also, how much money do you need to settle down and to have a backup in case something goes wrong? That's also something that you need to consider.

Enrique: 9:04

Yes, and talking about that, how much money you might need to settle down when you're making the leap a lot of times, a lot of times right, I'm not talking about sometimes you don't, but a lot of times. You are Usually going in with a job offer. Mm-hmm a lot of times that's a smart way.

Enrique: 9:22

Specifically, if you're making a huge like going from one country to another or something, you can't just. I mean, you can wing it, but you it's not recommended for you to just go out there without anything and you just go, okay, let me just land over there and then hopefully something happens right? Not because first of all you're gonna need a visa, so you're gonna need a work visa or something, just to get there.

Enrique: 9:44

It's not like you're just gonna enter through the door and that's it. But anyway, make sure that you ask your job who, the one who's giving you that job offer if they have any relocation, relocation finance right. So like, if you relocate or you got to move, they give you that some money for that expenses. Yes, we're moving.

Enrique: 10:03

It's important that you do that because sometimes the companies do have it and you might not ask about it. You know you might not get that benefit right. So always ask to the recruit, recruiter or Was gonna be your boss or the, you know, hr, whoever it is about. That opportunity is because that will help you a lot if they do have some money to Give you for relocation. You know, maybe to pay the first couple months or maybe to just the movement did the moving company or you know, moving your car over there, or you know there's a bunch of expenses that occur when you're traveling, so that's gonna give you a big chunk that might you might not have to dig deep into your savings or something If they actually give you some type of benefit right there.

Linda: 10:48

But also need to consider that when you move you're gonna make a lot of expensive right away. Like that's first week. You're gonna make a lot of expenses, like we did.

Enrique: 10:59

We spend like it went to target.

Linda: 11:02

Yeah, we spent that week probably like two or three grants or something like that. It was just a lot of because we didn't have anything. So we need to have a bed. We just got mattresses, I think, at that time.

Enrique: 11:15

No, we didn't. Yeah, we didn't have a bed frame right.

Linda: 11:17

No, we didn't have a bed frame. We just had the mattress, mattresses and food and Stuff for the house, because we we only came with luggage. We didn't have anything, so we had to buy everything.

Enrique: 11:30

Well, we had your car, your car.

Linda: 11:32

We didn't have the car at the very beginning.

Enrique: 11:34

We came in the boat right.

Linda: 11:36

Yeah, they drove. We ship the car and we ship the car in a boat. And that's one of the things that you need to consider how are you going to transport in this new location? In our case, we ship the city. I mean sorry, we ship the car, one of the cars but you might not have that option because your car is too old and it doesn't even make sense.

Enrique: 11:54

It also depends on what city you're going to, because, let's say you go to a really, let's say, a city like New York. Some of these cities have a really good transportation system, like trains and metros and all that stuff. For example, you go to New York City. A lot of people don't even have a car Because the subway system so good, you know all this stuff so they can really travel across New York Without the need of a car, right? So again, do your research.

Enrique: 12:26

If, if you think that you might not need to get a car right away because that's a big expense, right, you think you don't need to get into a car payment.

Enrique: 12:35

Or, you know, maybe you don't just transferring your cars, like Cusp, a big penny, right, specifically the, the bigger that the transfer is from the, for that ship, like, if it has to cross the whole Atlantic Ocean to get there, it's gonna cost you a lot more than if it's just, you know, from one little place closer to the other, so that I Know, but I'm saying that that's gonna be a big expense in itself. It might be five thousand dollars, six thousand, I don't know what it is, but it's gonna be a big expense in itself. Or if you're just getting into a car that's a new, getting to a car payment and all this, that's again in a big displacement, but it, if you do your research and you're like, hey, this city I'm going to has really good transportation system and all this, maybe you save a couple. You know, maybe you can live without a car for a year, year and a half, two years, whatever it is.

Linda: 13:21

And also consider for how long are you thinking to stay in that place.

Enrique: 13:25

That will be another decision maker into this, into deciding if I'm going to buy a new car or if I'm just going to buy an old car or something like that Also when you get there, if you want to keep on renting or you want to eventually buy a house Exactly.

Linda: 13:38

So I will personally. That's another thing that I'm going to talk a little bit. But another thing you need to consider is where exactly are you going to move within this new location? You need to do your research, because you don't want to move to a location, an area that is not that safe, and also you don't want to move to an area that is so far from where you are apparently going to work if that's the case where your activities are going to be around. So that's another thing to consider is like where are you going to move? What is the process so that when you get there, you have a place to stay and maybe you buy a new house right away, at the very beginning, maybe you decide, oh, I'm going to rent for a little bit, look around, decide which neighborhoods I like and then make a decision if I'm going to buy a house or not. Or maybe you are going to be there for a few years two, three years and then move to a different location, because this is just a stepping stone.

Enrique: 14:42

Yeah, it's just a job, step stone yeah. Yeah, and you're going to get a different position later.

Linda: 14:47

Yeah, so it really depends on what is your specific situation. But in our case, in our situation, we knew I knew right away I wanted to move to. One of the cities was Houston. This was, I think, my second choice and the place that I was working I really, really liked. But we didn't know the city, we didn't know where the best areas, so we opted to rent at the very beginning, and also because we didn't know how expensive for the houses or what we were going to be able to afford and stuff like that.

Enrique: 15:23

So we wanted to allow us the opportunity to Well, let's be honest, we just couldn't afford a house at the moment either.

Linda: 15:31

Most likely we couldn't afford a house.

Enrique: 15:33

No, we couldn't afford a house.

Linda: 15:34

We were so young, that's pretty simple.

Enrique: 15:36

It's not. I mean because, remember, we moved here, you had a job, I didn't, because I moved here without a job. I, you know we make the decision based on you.

Linda: 15:47

Mm-hmm.

Enrique: 15:48

And with your job, just, dad, until I got mine, that we first of all we were. We didn't have any savings. We're just, we're young, right? There's no savings we had.

Enrique: 16:00

It was very many we had some savings, but it's not like to get a house type of savings. And also we just I had no job how are we going to get a loan? The loan's not going to prove us based on your income and I have no income, I mean it was just, there was no decision, we will probably get a very crappy house in a bad neighborhood. We. We had to make the decision to rent, and I think that's the most viable decision for anybody out there when you make the move, rent the first year.

Enrique: 16:28

I would say it's straight simple At least rent for a year. Maybe rent for more than that, probably rent for more than that, right, but at least a year, because that way you get to know the areas. Okay, I like this space. I got a lot. No, I like the other one. You got a little time to start looking around what you like. You know what you don't like.

Linda: 16:45

Maybe you decide that you don't even like that city and you want to move to a different place and also, it gives you time to save up.

Enrique: 16:50

right, because you're going to need to save up, which is what we did Before we bought the house. We, we lived in an apartment for how many? Three years, two years? No, it was three.

Linda: 17:01

Are you sure?

Enrique: 17:03

How many apartments were we on? Two, so it's probably two years, okay, three years.

Linda: 17:06

one year per apartment it was one year per apartment.

Enrique: 17:10

Okay, yeah. So when we got to the, the second apartment, we started saving. You know, every month we were making a lot more than because the apartments were cheaper. We weren't like we're not paying a lot for the apartment, for the monthly and the apartment. So you know we're saving a lot, right, because there's, you know, have more money than we were really needing to pay anything.

Enrique: 17:31

So we were just saving and saving and saving and we started building up, you know, the our savings to then, when we started looking for houses and areas that we like for the house, we had a big chunk to just to give us a down payment or give us a, you know, to be able to pay for the closing costs or whatever it is on the house. So I would suggest, and I would really give you a hand to do that, because if you rent, it'll allow you to also ease up economically for that big change that you're making. Save up some money, get your savings or your you know, your savings account a little up so that if you, whenever you want to make that push, if you want to make the push for a house, you have something stored to a down payment or all this stuff right. So that would be my recommendation to you guys.

Linda: 18:20

Another thing that you need to consider is what are you going to bring with you when you are moving to this new location? So in our case, it was quite simple we only brought our clothes. We literally only have luggage. We didn't brought anything else, not even the toothpaste. I think we bought new toothpaste and toothbrush.

Enrique: 18:38

Yeah, that's not just the clothing, yeah.

Linda: 18:40

Yeah, we just brought the clothing. But for other people and for most people, depending on how old you are and how many things you have, you might need to look for a person, a company, that a moving company, for example.

Enrique: 18:54

Yeah, because you got furniture, you get stuff Exactly.

Linda: 18:57

And you might want to sell some of the items so you don't have to bring all of the stuff with you. You might also might need to give some of the things away or perch and decide what things are going to go to trash and what things are going to be brought to this new location. If you have a bigger family, like if you have kids, that's a little bit more complicated, because now you also have to think about this the minors, the kids what things are going to be brought to them, changing school, all that stuff that comes with it.

Enrique: 19:33

Yeah, that's actually a big change. Obviously it was not our case, but I would imagine if you have a kids or a couple kids or one kid and he's already at school, you know that change from a school to a different school with a different language and new friends that he has to make, you know that it's a pretty. It can be pretty rough for the kids so that's gonna be rough for the parents as well.

Enrique: 20:00

If it's rough for the kids, there's a lot of stress that's gonna create on them, that's created through the kid. So, yeah, that would be a that'd be a big one right there, you know, and everything that accompanies that there might have to be an extremely good reason to move the kids to like a huge shade financially.

Enrique: 20:18

That's normally what it is is, whoever it is, whether it's the mom or the dad. Somebody gets a big job, offer lots of money, you know, maybe it's double or triple the money that they were making and it's like man, we can't pass this up right. It's one of those things that you're like whoa, like we cannot pass this thing up right. So usually that's what happens. Or the other thing it could be the other extreme, which is that you're doing so bad, or your country is doing so bad, or wherever you are, it's so bad that you just need to make a change because you can't take it anymore. Right, you basically have nothing, which I know friends of mine who live in places where you know it's so bad over there.

Enrique: 21:01

They can't make food, they can't find food, they can't make money, they can't do anything, so anything for them. Any change, it's a good change, right? So it could be also that extreme, but a lot of times where most people who take the leap at least that I know it's usually a big financial reason, but it's also obviously that other reason where you just trying to get out of from a bad situation or a bad place, bad position, and to try to get into a better position.

Linda: 21:32

It is quite hard for those people that are in countries are very in bad situations or in war, which right now we have multiple countries in war.

Enrique: 21:44

Yeah.

Linda: 21:45

To move to, and in this case, the biggest reason is not even money, it's safety, which is basic way of living. I mean, what does one of the basic principles of life.

Enrique: 22:00

Savities would be another one right.

Enrique: 22:02

You gotta take a look into that. That's one of the other bullet points you gotta look into when you're making a travel. Obviously, when we search for that, we felt like here would be actually safe from that home. So that's one of the things it was. Actually we thought it would probably be better. I mean, sometimes we hear things over there in Puerto Rico and we don't like the news. So that was actually that would be another change that we thought would be in the better for us as well. Obviously, you got that the negatives right, which is you leave friends, you leave family, you leave everything you kind of grew up knowing. You kind of leave that behind, not forever, obviously, because you still go back to visit, but you kind of like you're not there in the day to day.

Linda: 22:46

It's not the same.

Enrique: 22:47

You're not in the day to day, experiencing everything. It's not like vacation, you're just living there. Right, it's a different feeling when you're living there, but you're leaving that behind. So your culture, what you're used to, so that's obviously a negative and that's always gonna be a downside, because you're never gonna be able to replicate that wherever you're going, not even if you bring some family members, it's still not gonna be the same. So you're always gonna. That's always something you're gonna miss. But you have to look into if the positives outweigh the negatives, and if they do, then it's a. It's a. It will be a good, a good change for you and for your family.

Linda: 23:31

Yes, yes, definitely for sure. So just to continue a little bit on the things to consider when you are doing a big move. Now, let's assume that you already figure out what are you going to move. You also need and you have, you did the purge and you have, you know all the things that you're gonna bring. You also need to plan with different utilities on this new location Water, electricity, internet.

Enrique: 23:59

Cable internet, yeah, internet, well, cable, not this much anymore. But internet, yes, yeah internet for sure.

Linda: 24:04

I will say at least those three Phone if you don't have, but a lot of times phone.

Enrique: 24:11

Well for us in Puerto Rico, since the phone lines are still you well not the same companies, but a lot of times companies in the US. The plans have Mexico and Puerto Rico, whatever. So have you moved from any of those countries? A lot of times you don't even have to change your phone.

Enrique: 24:29

Yeah because it's included in most of the plans, so you don't have to really, if you call your family members back, it's not, it's not a, it's not roaming where it's not long distance, so You're not gonna get charged or they're not gonna get charged.

Enrique: 24:43

We had a very specific situation that was for my job, but it's not like we had to like more. Example, my sister. They've been living in Florida before us and before that in Philadelphia, and they still have the Puerto Rico phone numbers. My other sister just moved to. Where is it again? No, south Carolina or North. I forgot one of those.

Linda: 25:03

I thought it was Georgia.

Enrique: 25:04

I Think it was South Carolina, but anyway, she's also with her Puerto.

Linda: 25:08

Rico phone so.

Enrique: 25:09

Greenville, I think that's. I don't know If I said it wrong. Please don't mind me, but Basically I'm trying to say that she still has phone number from Puerto Rico. I don't think that's. For us in particular, that's a big change. Obviously, if you come from a different country in a different continent, that'll be something that you're gonna have to get into, getting a Phone number here and you know, from one of the major providers or something. But yeah, that obviously would be one. The utilities, and you're gonna, you're gonna research that before you move. You're like we said, the apartments, the bill, like the, the phone, the, the internet, you're probably gonna have to go to the DMV or whatever and get a set up a driver's license, you know, for that state or for that place. You're moving in right, because you're probably gonna Want to drive over there eventually.

Enrique: 26:02

So that's also as it was gonna work as an ID For that new place you're living in. So you're gonna want to have an ID. So that's one of the things you're gonna have to go through when you get there with. That's one of the things we have you do and obviously I did it as well later but it's get our driver's license here in the state of Texas.

Linda: 26:20

So and that's gonna be another thing that you're probably gonna also, if you are going to bring your car, you do need to do the process for the car as well, so you need to change the registration yes, you need to get the red.

Enrique: 26:32

The registration in the state yes, you're gonna have to pay the fees and the taxes and all that.

Linda: 26:36

Yeah, right and also Just keeping the same topic. Another thing that you need to consider is Well, you're moving to this new location, you need to change the addresses Pretty much everywhere, from everything that you receive like credit cards.

Enrique: 26:54

Yeah, that's a big one.

Linda: 26:55

Yeah, that's a big one.

Enrique: 26:56

That's a that's a pain in the ass too, because a lot, a lot of times you have it. You have all this, all these addresses that they just keep mailing you there.

Enrique: 27:05

Yes and you got to change it. Yeah, hopefully, luckily. Now, if you tell your postal office, did the post office that you're moving to a different location? They just automatically Move. Like you know, when they send mail to that location, they automatically Redistributed to the new new location. I think it can work like that. I'm not miss, if I'm not mistaken I don't know if it's forever or they they do it for like a year or something until they give you time to make the change For every single thing. Yes, you have to change right.

Linda: 27:37

Do they charge something for it?

Enrique: 27:39

I don't know, but I think I remember I did call it when we moved to the second apartment or from the second apartment to the house. I did make a thing with the, I did talk to the postal office and I and I did get that. You know, I remember I did get all those letters to be Re-re-re-re-re-sent to the new address, our address obviously. Well, if you're moving newly to a place, you don't really have to change your utility or anything Because you're gonna have to do everything new. But if you were moving from a different state to another state, or from a different city to a different city, from one city to a different city in the same state, you're gonna have to take change in utilities companies and maybe change address with the utilities or all that stuff. So you might not have to do the whole process from the start, but you're gonna have to change who your providers are and all that stuff.

Linda: 28:33

Yeah, for sure. I think if it. All of that information is great In terms of all the things that you need to do when you're, you know, moving to this new location, but we don't talk much about what if, if you have kids. If you have kids, you need to consider all other things like, for example Well, you're moving the kids from one school to another school, what is going to be the new school for this kid, for these kids? And then search are they moving to a private school? Are they moving to a public school? Then what if it's a public school? What is the public school that is moving to? What is the paperwork that you need to send for that new school? Do you need to have conversations with the facility? Stuff like that that you need to consider as well. If there are babies, then I Will say that's a little bit easier.

Enrique: 29:30

That's the case, you should also Probably check into who's gonna be your one big one. Probably is gonna be the health care provider. Yes, you don't have if you don't have a, your company doesn't provide you with health, with health insurance, yeah that was looking to health insurance.

Enrique: 29:46

Specifically if you have kids, because you know how they got to go to the doctor almost every time. So that's, that would be another thing. You know health insurance, you know all the main things that we kind of take for granted that we have all the time, but when we start traveling, we're moving, we're like holy shit, there was so much stuff, mm-hmm, we have to go through. You know, like right now I probably Don't think about all this stuff. But if I were have to move over, like whoa, what are we? Whoa, what about this?

Enrique: 30:13

Oh what about this one? And I'll be like you know, going like wow it's too much stuff that we have to check right. Luckily again for us, when we move young, we move like we were, probably like 26 or 27. I don't know.

Linda: 30:28

Yeah, so.

Enrique: 30:28

I'm around there 25, 26, when we move. We didn't have most mostly anything, so the transition was a lot easier. We didn't have to, you know, check a lot of these boxes, so it made it easier, because then you just start scratching a new place so everything starts to. You start to get everything. Oh, I need this, when you're already there. So, okay, I'll grab it. I need this, okay, I'm already here. So it's a lot easier than it. All of a sudden you have to change everything all of a sudden.

Linda: 30:57

And, in our case, was very easy as well, because we were young. We were literally starting. Yeah, that's what I was saying so it was just a matter of where are we going to start, because we have to start regardless. Yeah, it's just a matter of okay, where are we going to do?

Enrique: 31:12

and I knew.

Enrique: 31:13

I knew for sure it was not going to be Puerto Rico, that's why, specifically, I said when we started the podcast today that it's completely different when you've already got a big family and you know you got to move and you already got a lot of things set in where you are far and you got to move all that stuff with the house, furniture, whatever it is. It's a much bigger change than if you're just starting out straight out of college Boom, I'm gonna go to a different state, I'm gonna go to different country. It's a lot easier the process than if you were already set.

Enrique: 31:43

Yes and you just got it all of a sudden go.

Linda: 31:46

Yes, that's a big, that's a more, a much bigger change. That's even bigger. I'm just talking about the whole medical situation and I was thinking what if we are moving with an older person that has multiple conditions, that we need to make sure that all of that information, all of that data from all the records from the old doctor have to move to the new?

Enrique: 32:07

doctor. On top of that, and hopefully a lot of times, that's good about today is that with the technology it's a lot easier to like, send this information from hospitals or hospital or whatever.

Linda: 32:16

I think they usually charge something.

Enrique: 32:18

Yeah, but one last thing. I have one more thing. In our case it was, and, but a lot of people also have this. You got to. You got to consider what you're gonna do with the pets.

Enrique: 32:28

Oh, yes, if you have pets, are you gonna take them with you? Some people don't want to take them with them, so then they just have somebody in the whether I adopt them, stay with them, or maybe they, they, they, they give it to somebody else a friend or somebody who wanted it, who wanted your dog or wanted a dog, or who's who's really friendly with your dog and they want to stay with it. I mean because you maybe you don't want to make the change and have a dog with you or pets, because that obviously complicates things. In our case, we were again, we were young, so we just took our dogs. They were kind of the babies, so we took them and you know we didn't have a lot of things with us.

Enrique: 33:03

But maybe if we have to move now. You know the dogs are, you know they're always they're. They're obviously something that you love, but they're also give you more headaches.

Linda: 33:15

Just to stop you there. The dogs are coming with us, regardless what they're. We can say they are coming with us.

Enrique: 33:20

I'm saying I know I'm just saying that for other people and you know that there's a lot that do give their dogs away to a friend or somebody else because, they feel like they can't deal with all that they have to do plus the dogs or the pets in the way, yes, or sometimes they just leave the dog and once they're settled, they, they go, and then they get them sent to them right but they leave them with somebody for like the first three months or something.

Enrique: 33:46

Okay, linda, so that'll be all. There's anything else you want to you want to cover here?

Linda: 33:51

No, I think that covers pretty much everything that I have in my notes, but obviously this is our situation and we try to cover some of the things outside of our situation, but your situation might be different. So make sure that, on top of these podcasts, you do a little bit more research, because every situation is different. So just make sure that you cover your particular needs during your big move process and I wish you, of course, really good luck on it.

Enrique: 34:20

Okay. So, like I said, that would be our recommendations for when you make a big move or a big change. But, like Linda said, you do what it's best for you and your family and what's the best decision for yourself. All the best of the luck when you do that. Stay tuned. For next Wednesday we'll be talking about, I think, how to prep, or how to financially prep, to get a house or to buy a house, get into the house market in today's age, with how chains changes are going to inflation all that stuff.

Enrique: 34:55

So I think that'll be a good, good little nugget of information and a good subject for next week so next Wednesday. Stay tuned for that. As always, we wish to. We want to thank you guys for listening to us. Check our Instagram at Hanelestu a podcast. Check us every Wednesday. Stay safe. Thanks for what phrase? Thanks for watching and for listening. Check us out on Apple music and Amazon music. And was the other one? Spotify? Yes, and you guys have a great rest of the day, rest of the week. See you next time bye.