Relationships Worth More Than Money Podcast

Life Through the Lens of a Visual Creator and Gamer

May 15, 2024 Tweezy Kennedy Season 1 Episode 16
Life Through the Lens of a Visual Creator and Gamer
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Relationships Worth More Than Money Podcast
Life Through the Lens of a Visual Creator and Gamer
May 15, 2024 Season 1 Episode 16
Tweezy Kennedy

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I never thought that a candid chat with @FrankieDotCreates would redefine the way we view the impact of creative networking. Join us as Frankie, a Virginia-based master of the lens, spins tales of his artistic odyssey, blending the raw elements of photography and videography into a thriving career avenue. We traverse through the transformative power of events like "When Bosses Meet," unraveling the intangible wealth of relationships and the surprising ways they trump financial triumphs. 

From the diverse streets of Fairfax to the structured discipline of military service, we uncover how our backgrounds have carved out our nimble communication skills and our ability to adapt to any scenario. As Frankie and I share our joy for gaming and relive the rush of creating content, we also cast light on embracing opportunities that once seemed daunting. This episode is an ode to the enrichment that life's various paths provide, and a celebration of the shared experiences that bind us all. 

Closing out with Frankie's personal insights, we find inspiration in overcoming self-doubt and the power of staying true to one’s craft. Music, with its profound influence, dances through our conversation as we reminisce cultural touchstones and the thrill of curating playlists. If you're seeking a blend of heartfelt discussion and creative spark, this is your invitation to an honest dialogue that resonates with creators, dreamers, and visionaries alike.


Relationships Worth More Than Money by Tweezy Kennedy & Marcus Alland
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I never thought that a candid chat with @FrankieDotCreates would redefine the way we view the impact of creative networking. Join us as Frankie, a Virginia-based master of the lens, spins tales of his artistic odyssey, blending the raw elements of photography and videography into a thriving career avenue. We traverse through the transformative power of events like "When Bosses Meet," unraveling the intangible wealth of relationships and the surprising ways they trump financial triumphs. 

From the diverse streets of Fairfax to the structured discipline of military service, we uncover how our backgrounds have carved out our nimble communication skills and our ability to adapt to any scenario. As Frankie and I share our joy for gaming and relive the rush of creating content, we also cast light on embracing opportunities that once seemed daunting. This episode is an ode to the enrichment that life's various paths provide, and a celebration of the shared experiences that bind us all. 

Closing out with Frankie's personal insights, we find inspiration in overcoming self-doubt and the power of staying true to one’s craft. Music, with its profound influence, dances through our conversation as we reminisce cultural touchstones and the thrill of curating playlists. If you're seeking a blend of heartfelt discussion and creative spark, this is your invitation to an honest dialogue that resonates with creators, dreamers, and visionaries alike.


Relationships Worth More Than Money by Tweezy Kennedy & Marcus Alland
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Speaker 1:

We live, or just like Just a recording.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we live, we live with it, we live with it. Hot with it. Okay, hot with it. Hot mic we live with it.

Speaker 1:

What up, y'all, what up.

Speaker 2:

What's the, what's the people? This is what we call. So you know what I call Everybody that follow us. I call them the relatives. Relatives Cause if you, if you're part of Relationships worth more than money, you become a relative.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I like that. What up relatives? Yeah, yeah, we here with it and we back. Episode 16. Episode 16 in the building yeah.

Speaker 2:

Relationships worth more than money. I'm Tweezy To my left who I got.

Speaker 1:

You got your main man, frankie Doc Creates.

Speaker 2:

Yes, sir, and this is crazy, man, because you are the first creative from when Bosses Meet to jump on the pod after the event. Okay, I've been getting people hitting me up Like they've been trying to get on here and we've just been trying to coordinate how we were Right. But yeah, man, go ahead, tell them where you're from, let's know something about you. Man, tell me about yourself.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, I'm from here, virginia. I was born in Fairfax, Currently live in the outside of Fairfax, gainesville, virginia, they call it Family man Got three kids, two boys, a girl, lovely wife, and I'm in the automotive industry. I do my side thing Let me back up a little bit Not my side thing. I'm revolving that into my main thing, which is my photography, my videography and just content creativeness. So that's where we at with it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, the pictures and videos that I've seen from you man is crazy and I appreciate that, man, because I'm probably my biggest.

Speaker 1:

I think every creative is their biggest critic, right, and I've been doing a lot of stuff Like I've been doing this. It's just I haven't been out in the open like this, you know, showcasing my work, posting like this, like I got a little bit here and there, but in the back of your mind you're like yo people really gonna, you know, fuck with this or not on my phone.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no, you do what you say, what you want, whatever I know where we at.

Speaker 1:

And yeah, man, I was like y'all, like that whole event was like a kick in the ass I needed, bro. Yeah, because it was definitely like I was like on my way but this like expedited, like me being one consistent, stepping my game up and bringing out just the best I can possibly do and bringing out just the best I can possibly do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, I think, like I was telling Kadeem, it's a game changer, bro, because it's like, think about it like this If you got a team right, a team of cameramen, videographers, photographers and more other creators, models and everything, and it's all about putting the pieces, putting the right pieces in at the right time, and when Bosses Meet, happens, bro, it's like everything falls into place. It's like everybody was on the same playbook throughout the whole time. And I think it's because it's loose, it's not a structured to the T event like, hey, you have to be here, you have to be there, you have. I think it's because it's loose, it's not a structured to the T event Like hey you have to be here, you have to be there, you have to be here.

Speaker 2:

And I think that's where it really like took off because, yeah, man, like it's nothing I ever seen like it. You know what I mean. But at the same time you're building relationships, absolutely Like we connected. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was about to say you and Brian were like the first two because I walked in with setting up and everything right there. Yeah, we were setting up and I was like, oh, they got a whole podcast here. I was like because I was like because I do event shoots and stuff, so I'm used to have people, you know, do their thing while they're, you know, moving around changing.

Speaker 1:

I'm like okay okay, I was like, damn, I'm trying to get here, you know, because you know why not? It's, this whole event is just for networking and growing and you know exposure. So I was like, all right, let me get there.

Speaker 2:

Never got there, so I was like yo, I got a link up with you, yeah man, I mean like it was, man, it was crazy because I was telling Kadeem like man, this joint flew by like six hours, flew by like.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I just got there, that's what I'm saying, like we all just was just sitting there me, you and Brian Shout out to Brian too we was all sitting there setting up, like figuring out where we was going to be at, like where we going to put our stuff at, and I'm was like, yeah, we definitely going to do some more work afterwards Because I know a lot of people wanted to get on, but they was. Some people were shy, some people you know what I mean they ain't know what we was going to talk about. But I'm like relationships worth more than money, like whatever you want to talk about. It's about the networking, the relationships that you deal with, friendships, everything, you know what I mean Sports, whatever, about the same. It's all about the relationships man?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because when I, when you told me the name of it, I was like relationships worth more than money. I was like I thought it was Like we gonna be talking About some things. It could be.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. That's the thing about it. You know what I mean Relationships worth more Than money. Dog, it could be anything. You know what I mean, cause you could. You could be on the couch, you can talk about whatever, whatever that comes to mind, because I don't ever have Like a full, like structured topic. I just wanna know who the person is that I'm talking to to and what you do, and how did you get to where you are right now and where you're going. You know what I mean, and that's the whole basis of it. Then, when people want to dive in and peel back the onion, we can peel back the onion. You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

And that's what I love about it, because all the feedback that I have been getting has been yo. I like the way it's free flow. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's not like I have to ask these questions, I have to ask this. Yeah, I got to make sure he says this Like no, say what you want to say.

Speaker 1:

Because I was definitely about to hit you. Be like on the way here I was like yo, anything I got to get ready for or anything I got to, nah, bro.

Speaker 2:

The topics or, like I was saying, we was talking about it off camera, about the automotive industry, and you were saying how sales? You didn't want to deal with the sales part.

Speaker 1:

Oh no.

Speaker 2:

And the sales part is pretty much what I dealt with as a recruiter. It's sales, it's consultative selling skills. You know what I mean, and that helped me, though, even though I grinded and worked hard. It helped me become a better speaker. It helped me become a better listener. You know what I mean, and when you can listen nine times out of ten, that's where your sale is right there, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I strayed away from sales. I mean, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against sales, because if you're working, you're selling period, no matter what you do, you're selling period. Yeah, no matter what you do. Right, you're selling, whether it's directly or indirectly. And in the automotive industry it's just a different kind of animal because I only work in high line, so big, six-figure cars and trucks I deal with.

Speaker 1:

So the conversation is a little bit different. You're not dealing with everybody. You're dealing with a certain kind of people. They got a certain kind of expectation but nonetheless, all this stuff that they teach you in that and I'm pretty sure they talk as well in recruitment is that not only how you listen, how you talk. But those are things that I took personally and just was like this is free game for anybody that's doing something on the side or just want to build a business. I've just been like anything that they could do, any conferences, any meetings or anything that we can attend. I'm there, I'm not going to level up there, I'm just taking that free information, just taking it all in.

Speaker 2:

Taking it all in putting it towards to you know the main goal. Yeah, man, and I think a lot of people don't understand like that part, Because you might jump into a job and just be like I'm just here to work, but you're using it as how I can enhance my outside extracurricular activities.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying, and that makes sense because, like Kadeem said, man, the things we did in the Marine Corps helped us, prepared us for the real world. Yep, you know what I mean? Yep, and it definitely did, man, because we can adapt anywhere. That's why I can go to any city and I'll be straight, Like, I understand the neighborhoods, I understand everything and I adapt to the culture and that's what we was taught. Like you know what I mean, you got to know how to adapt and overcome. You know what I mean. But, yeah, man, automotive industry, let's talk about the childhood man. Like, how was Fairfax growing up?

Speaker 1:

Oh, man, we moved a lot and I told Kadeem this my pop was in the Marines, Really yeah, so that's why you know being around everybody. It was nothing but respect and love bro. Yeah, tell him something's fine man, nothing but respect and love. So we moved around a lot, from Fairfax to Arlington, to Alexandria, to Fredericksburg, orange County.

Speaker 2:

We've been some places. I've been to the whole Virginia. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1:

Most of my childhood I grew up in Bell City, bro. It was not as bad as it is now, but it still was.

Speaker 1:

You know, nice, you know it was all right you got your, yeah, yeah you know I was able to be outside for a bit, but then, you know, it was that transitional period where stuff started going downhill a little bit. You know streetlights come on, it's time to go in, because you start hearing things outside now and I mean we didn't have a lot, but my parents always made sure that we was good Right, and we've been to a lot of places, man, and my main grow-up spot was, you know, dell City and Stafford and Fredericksburg. So between those three it's like I mean I feel like I'm still here. So it ain't nothing that was too crazy, but I'm still blessed by the people I came across and you know the upbringing that my parents did so yeah, what about sports man, you playing any sports when you was Absolutely yeah, what you play?

Speaker 1:

Football bro, football Football was my bread and butter man and I played street ball like street basketball.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, you know that's automatic Sideline tackle on a foot street football too.

Speaker 1:

Exactly man Getting tore up by license plates, running through the street with it. Yeah, I wanted to pursue a career in football, as I think every dude did that played it, but the focus wasn't there. As you know, time progressed. High school came around, started messing around with the women and everything, just losing focus.

Speaker 1:

You know we keeping it real. So after that I started to migrate over to see what do I want to do and that light didn't click to man. All right. So I was about at least 22,. Man, like it took a while. But at the same time I know a lot of people beat themselves up. Like man, I need to figure out what I'm going to do. You're not going to figure that out immediately. It could take a while because you got to try a lot of things and I tried a lot of things, bro. A while because you got to try a lot of things and I tried a lot of things, bro, and I mean some gave success. Some would have probably flourished more if I put more consistency to it. But I mean I think God passed out everything for a reason to line you up to where you need to be, and since then I've just been following that purpose.

Speaker 2:

So you got you just found out your birthday is in purpose Right. So you got you just found out your birthday is in September. Yup, virgo Virgo, big Virgo gang, big Virgo energy. How is it, man, as a parent? Man like, how is it Like, what's your version of when you first had that first kid? Like, how did you react?

Speaker 1:

Oh man, kid, like, how did you react? Oh man, when I found out I was having a kid man heart dropped yeah, because you know I was, I was, it was still. It was like the tail end of high school, man. Well, it was hot out here, yeah and uh, I was like damn. I got to my parents, you know right, she told me and I was like fine, playing so you, you shot the club up when you were still in high school, bro, before prom.

Speaker 2:

No, this was after. Okay, this was after.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, this was after. This was her last year and I had already graduated. You had graduated, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, it was a rollercoaster of emotions. And number one question is like I don't even have a job at this point yet.

Speaker 2:

Like what am I going?

Speaker 1:

to do, you know, and lo and behold that's when I start, you know sat down with my mom and pop. My mom was you know, figure this out my dad was just he hit me with that disappointment. He was like he, you, with that disappointment. He was like he, you know. I would say you know how Marines are, bro, like they give you that look, and I always have this respectable fear of my pop, even right now, but he was just like damn that's the point.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, ah, got you.

Speaker 1:

Ah, that got. That's the point. I'm like ah, Got you. Ah, yeah, that got me, bro. Yeah. But now you know, time has passed. Everybody matured, grew up. Everybody's cordial with everybody. It's dope man. They like my little homies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, I think that's the dope part about it, man. It's like when you actually figuring it out, man, because it's no rule book to parenting. Oh, me and the girl's mom, we super cool, dope co-parents. But it's like you know what I mean. You have your bumps and bruises throughout the situation, but at the same time, man, it's like kids is what's important. You know what I mean? Yep, and that's how I look at it. Yeah, um, man, my kids is, they are. It's like the girl versions of me, like both of them have, have same similar traits that I have. And then my youngest, she just man, she just, I don't know, like I wasn't bad Like 2D. 2d took it to like a whole nother level of like I don't care, like I don't care about nothing. It's my world. You here, yeah, this is my world. You just my parent and I'm doing what I want to do. So, but no, man, shout out to the kids. Man, take me to. When you started the whole photography and videography thing, man, because your work is crazy.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, thank you. I'm always. I have a hundred thousand percent gratitude and humbleness because, you know, like I said it's, I didn't see myself going this, like this avenue with it. Yeah, but I'll give you a backstory. I'm going to say maybe 2015, 16, 17-ish. I want to do the whole YouTube thing, right, right. So you know, I love gaming, I'm a big gamer, you're a gamer, I'm a gamer.

Speaker 2:

I got caught on right now.

Speaker 1:

Bro, listen, I was playing.

Speaker 2:

I'm like you. Like you tip it away, I get in that session.

Speaker 1:

Try to get it in one time Big gamer and you know the YouTubers I was watching. You know the Titans in the YouTube gaming space I was watching. I was like yo, they could do that, I could do that too. So I just dove into it. I didn't even have a capable computer and I just, over time, grew, got stuff I needed. People were saying use this, get that, play this, play that. You know, I had my channel and everything. A lot of the old school people that rocking with me. Yo, frankie J, that was my first.

Speaker 2:

That was your first YouTube name my first YouTube name was Yo Frankie J.

Speaker 1:

Taking off, I did games, skits you know, everything.

Speaker 1:

And I was like, all right, let me try on the other side of the camera because, you know, as a gamer and a content creator, you're everything. So you're editing videos, videos, right you? Making sure you you're looking good, you're in focus, yeah. So all that stuff just rolled over to me, just doing that for somebody else. So, um, I was really in in, uh, intrigued with videos, and like I was like, man, I want to do like short films, music videos. It's just dope, like to be on your producer tip and like have something like yo, I had this idea, got some people together, we made it happen fast forward to November.

Speaker 1:

I had brought a cinema camera and I was doing stuff with the church, with my church. So they created a whole like social media ministry to. You know, everybody need that space and social media. So you know, sermons and events, you know try to get people come to the church and everything. So me and a couple other of my, uh, my friends and family like running the social media thing. I was just doing video and one of the ministers came out and was like, hey, you do like weddings and photography and stuff too, right, and she was telling me about this big event coming up like a pastoral installation which basically, to sum it up, is like a presidential inauguration for a church. It's big, you have people flying in like big ministers.

Speaker 2:

It's called a pastoral installation Installation yeah, I had never heard of that.

Speaker 1:

It installed because we had our old pastor retired and we got a new one. So to properly induct him into the church, you got to go through this like week and a half long event. So she was telling me about that. We were right there at the church just chopping up and I was like, yeah, bro, I didn't even have a camera and the event was like a month and a half away.

Speaker 1:

Figured it out, though, bro, saying yes to that, put me right here in this seat, right here. Man, man, it's crazy how things happen. Right, it just blew my mind, because after that, everything just changed for me, the whole trajectory of what I thought was going to happen for me, because every year, like between November and January, I'm like, all right, this is what's happening this year, this is where I want to be, this is what I want to do. They say, yep, but we're going to go the alternate route though. Yeah, I was like it just blew my mind. I was like, yo, we're going this way. Yeah, it just blew my mind. I was like, yo, we're going this way, and it just took off bro, it's crazy man.

Speaker 2:

because, like, I'm a firm believer of the man upstairs man and I always tell people like my aunt's a minister, I got family members ministers, but I like the fact that they keep it real, like they're not just—because. Growing up as a kid man I was just like like something ain't right. Like I go to church and go to church and go to church. I'm like, well, why is they doing this? Why is they worshiping this guy when he's supposed to be worshiping the man upstairs? Right, but I always say Ecclesiastes 3, man, everything happens for a reason. And when I learned that from boot camp, because I went to boot camp trying to get away from the drilling structure, I went to church man on Sunday and the pastor, he, that was his sermon. And ever since then, man, I got it tatted on my chest Like Ecclesiastes 3, man, everything happens for a reason. And that part right there for you, man, like it's not when you want it, it's when he knows it's time for you to have it. Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

And I think that's the dopest part about I mean man God. Man God is definitely he's on time.

Speaker 1:

Oh, absolutely May not be when you want him. That's what I'm saying he's on time.

Speaker 2:

But he's always on time, man.

Speaker 1:

I definitely got to get a shout out to my pastor, he's a big motivator and, like because he has energy that I've never, ever witnessed in a human being. Like this brother is just go, go, go, idea, idea, idea, idea, idea, idea, execute, execute, execute. And I was like yo, I kind of think, like that, you know so. And he's always like man, it's untapped potential. You have to like, if you scared, do it. Scared. If you, you know you got this thing you want to do, do it. You won't know, you know until you actually do it. You can't let things that haven't happened yet stop you. Facts, like, because that's crazy, what'll stop you? You, you're the only person. Once you get out of your way, you, you know it's smooth sailing after that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, and people don't be understanding that and I tell them all the time like you have a relationship with the man upstairs, you want to have a relationship with him. And then, when you got people, that's going to bring that good energy to you because I'm big on energy man, oh, yeah, though, I feel it when I walk in a room yeah, I'm big on energy. So, like how you were saying your pastor man, like those are the people you want around you, because it's going to motivate you to keep going, it's going to motivate you to keep looking and keep searching for whatever you need. Yeah, man, that's, that's dope man, because everybody always want to know, like, how did you get to where you at right now? And you know what I mean you going? Because it's a thing Like it's this YouTube that I'm doing with the visuals.

Speaker 2:

It's to show people like, hey, like we just like you, right? You know what I mean. We are just like you. I love visual pods. You know what I mean and that's why I was telling you. I learned that from going to PodCon. Wallo did this PodCon Shout out to Wallo and Gilly man, but Wallo did this free PodCon bro, like all you had to do was show up that's dope In Philly and he was giving up so much game man. And that's when I found out that the visual was called a vodcast. A vodcast, the audio is what the podcast is Right right.

Speaker 2:

So I was like oh snap, I'm thinking podcasts are just on TV. Exactly, that's a secondary to the primary. And how you can eat off of this is send it to multiple sites. So TikTok already got my clips shooting the TikTok and YouTube shorts and YouTube and Instagram. So Instagram, I do it myself so I can throw the music on there. Right, I'm trying to figure out the Snapchat thing now. But the whole thing is to generate hit on all platforms. Yeah, because once it goes now, you're eating off of those.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's just, you know little sprinkles here and there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's planting seeds. You know what I mean. And I tell people all the time I'm planting seeds, plant seeds, I'm watering them and they grow. You know what I mean. Granted, some seeds don't always grow. That's cool. Yeah, you got other ones. You can you know.

Speaker 1:

So is YouTube like your. You want YouTube to be your baby. Yeah, man, you driving all traffic from them to here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that, and so I use Streamlabs too.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but Streamlabs is for the merch, so all my merchandise I use Streamlabs but, I, want to use String Labs For the the times where people like Over, you know, overseas, or out of country or out of town, they can't get here or get to, where I can't get there, where we can just do it online. You know what I mean. Just do the podcast online. But Even that too, man Cause like you, I'm a gamer too, like me and my boys, I was about gonna say, yeah, we on the games all the time, like just be chilling, yeah, because that's my, that's my, that's my little, my little safe haven. Man, when I'm chilling, I ain't, I ain't got nothing going on.

Speaker 1:

Bro, let me tell you man, like I probably, I probably gamed a little bit about a few weeks ago, like, and I was telling my brother this I was like man, it's weird playing games when you're not recording it or streaming it, yeah, and just enjoying the game. And when I was just playing it, bro, I was so immersed in that game, I didn't have to interact with nobody, I was just playing the game. What game was it? It was the new Saints Row.

Speaker 2:

Bro, saints Row is fire. Absolutely, bro. Saints Row was like the hood GTA, bro, because it's so wild.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's so wild.

Speaker 2:

And then I like the fact that you can really soup up your vehicles like how you want to soup them up Now. Gta had little limits, you know what I mean and it cost too much, right, right. But, I still play GTA too.

Speaker 1:

The girls love it. Man, I will never not play GTA.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the girls love it, man. They going there and just driving around.

Speaker 1:

We used to have these GTA series which I think they still on my brother's YouTube. Yeah, oh man, just me, him and the homies. Just be late night hours bro.

Speaker 2:

It's wild and it's crazy. Y'all was doing that Long time ago. Now look how it blew up and people like Sada Baby and T-Grizzly. They got their own networks where people can link and go into their joint. And it's different, because on a computer the whole servers and all that Bro the servers is crazy. You can literally put every clothing into the game. Yep.

Speaker 1:

That you see out here, everything we got on right now, everything we got on is on that game.

Speaker 2:

Spot on I, we got on right now, everything we got on is on that game, spot on. I said, yo, this is crazy, chains, yep, all of that. And I was like, man, I hope this new GTA be all beat. Oh, it's going to be beat, man, I'm waiting, man, it's going to be like. I was so hyped when they dropped the trailer on it, because I for that man, because it's like it's going to be crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's going to be everything GTA needs to be.

Speaker 2:

I'm like damn. So if they got Vice City, they're going back to Vice City like are they going to incorporate more cities?

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. They really really went all out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because on 5, when you do like the heist, they got a new heist that's like in Puerto Rico or something. Oh yeah, the.

Speaker 1:

Puerto Rico Bay heist. Yeah yeah, we tried to do that, heist, bro. Bro see, here's the thing.

Speaker 2:

I ain't got no team, no more, to do them, so I be like man. I just be like on GTA a little bit, like I used to be on that heavy Bro, heavy man, a dude that knew how to do the little dupes, and we'd get all the cars and we'd soup them up and sell them for a million and then we was getting I think the most amount I ever had was probably like 15 million in the account.

Speaker 1:

When GTA first came out, it was for the 3. And when the 4 came out, playstation 4, and they moved everything over. A dude that I met on GTA was like yo, I could take your GTA from PlayStation 3, mod it, so when you go on 4, you'll have basically $999 billion. Yeah, I was like say less. Yeah, in there enjoying it, bro, for like a year, logged in one day, got a notification from Rockstar Y'all your money has been eradicated, dang. I had who say bro, but little did they know.

Speaker 2:

I brought everything in the game, so you can sell it I was selling stuff for weeks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm like yo. Two days I was back up.

Speaker 2:

I, I was like this ain't nothing, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, like man, them dupes, man, like right now, to this day, man, I still got a bunch of them little Vespas, oh bro, I got a bunch of them in one of my garages, bro. And then another one. I got the Burger Shot car in my garage, because that was the two dupes you could dupe them for. It was like a, I don't know. It looked like a, like a. What's the little, the Asian, the Asian car that everybody always like a Supra. It looked like a Supra.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's like the Kirin or Kirin or something like that. You can, when you dupe it into that and you put like a certain amount of paint job or whatever on it, like you can sell it for a million each time. It was like 900 and something thousand, so like we had 900 and something thousand, so like we would dupe all of those free vehicles, you know what I'm saying, Put a little like 10, 20,000 into it and get 900,000 from it, and we would do that back to back to back to back to back. But yeah, man, I ain't been, I ain't been on for a minute. I gotta, I gotta log back in and find me a. That's when you start learning all of the different ins and outs of how to do things. But yeah, I still be on my solo dolo too.

Speaker 1:

My heights used to be crazy, man, crazy, absolutely. We cleared all the main heights. Yeah, we did that in, like I want to say, a two and a half three day period. Yeah, we cleared all the main heights. It was like four at first right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that one with the prison, that one was crazy yeah that one was crazy man, yeah that one was crazy.

Speaker 1:

And then the one with the FIB building, one yeah.

Speaker 2:

That one was Ooh man. And then like, remember, if you died like you had to start all the way around, bro, that's why we was like adamant man, like it'd be late night hours.

Speaker 1:

So you know how you get when you tired, yep, like you either start just tripping or you just be like pissed off Facts and then everybody don't be on the same page, like I'm not trying to do this again, please, bro, it's going to late.

Speaker 2:

We about to get off, man, exactly, you ain't playing, right, you don't. And we ain't going to find somebody else to play Because, bro, we wasn't going for it, man. But that's the thing I always tell people everybody has their niche and they have their thing to get away. Mine was always gaming man. Even when I was a kid, I was out in the streets, but at night, me and my boys, we'd be at each other's house. We'd be playing live, nba, live or, or tech and whatever it was, madden, nhl and um. But that's, I think, to me. Our parents used to get on us so much. You ain't gonna make no money off that. Why you always playing that game. Little do they know it's millionaires man, listen, bro.

Speaker 1:

When I left YouTube and moved over to Twitch, I got affiliate in a week For real One week, bro, and I don't know how I had it it was like a few months before my birthday, at a birthday street and got my first payout. Dang Bro, I'm going to tell you what not to do, though Don't let the chat control how much you drink. Wow.

Speaker 1:

The chat had you like that, bro. The chat had me off my ass. Bro, I had a full bottle of tequila. I was just chilling with it. Yeah Nah, they say you're not chilling. Oh shit, dang. Every time I look at it, every time I die. I don't even remember what I was playing, bro. I was playing Fall Guys. Yeah, Every time I died bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so like. So the so me man. I was a. I love action, of course, but I like I don't want nobody to take this wrong but I like shooting games. You know what I mean. And that's why I love Grand Theft, because it was like yeah, you do whatever you want, you can take a car, you can take a plane, you can take whatever a tank anything.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying and it was just your imagination or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then, of course, sports. See me, baseball was my first love. Even though I love football, I love all the sports, basketball, I'm learning to love new sports too, like soccer. But yeah, man, the action was always man. It was always GTA, call of Duty, Rainbow Six. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Man, rainbow Six was so crazy.

Speaker 2:

Rainbow Six is a staple bro, yeah, before Call of Duty it was.

Speaker 1:

Rainbow Six, yeah, rainbow Six.

Speaker 2:

And before Rainbow Six so calm, so calm. Yes, sir Fire, team PS2, come on man, so I always tell people man, like people, be like, oh, he play the game and I'm like, so, like you have your own thing, you do. You know what I mean. Makeup, you do you make wigs.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. Why gotta be like? That's what I think like. To be honest with myself is I think a lot of that gets me when I was doing it. Because I get grown-ass man playing games, bro, like, come on, bro, I'm like, this is where I'm at Like.

Speaker 2:

I'm chilling.

Speaker 1:

I'm like this is my vibe.

Speaker 2:

And I always tell him, bro, I say hey, so you want me out in the streets?

Speaker 1:

Or you want me in this house, something totally different. I could be doing Something.

Speaker 2:

Like totally different, right? Do you which one you want? Do you want me in here or do you want me in the street? Pick one, pick one. But yeah, man, it's. But it's fun too, man, and I like that. The girls they like to play too, man, and it's like that's like our bond too Outside of you know, sports, is you know what I mean? Finding something that you get along with with the kids, yeah, and introducing them to these crazy games, because, like Spider-Man, crazy on the PS5. Absolutely, absolutely. You know what I mean. But what other games outside of, like Call of Duty, oh, man, my number one is racing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was my Gran is racing. Yeah, I was my my Gran Turismo, gran Turismo. My pop got me the first Gran Turismo man, four discs, that's crazy. It was crazy, crazy. And then after that he got me the first Need for Speed. Road and Track Bro Need for Speed.

Speaker 2:

Need for Speed has been my oh man. They fell off, though, man, and you know you think so.

Speaker 1:

Well, so EA Sports Was the pivotal like Company Right For everything. Well, people, yes, ea was definitely, and then they fell off. Remember, luckily.

Speaker 2:

College is coming back out this year. They took an 11 year hiatus. Okay, you know what I mean. But Gran Turismo to me and Midnight Club, oh, was the two pivotal Dub edition. Bruh Remix too, dog, the dress was crazy. The great.

Speaker 1:

First of all, by far one of the hardest soundtracks in any game period. Bro Facts Outside of the GTA line, but I mean it's Rockstar.

Speaker 2:

So you know they always have fire. Yeah, they did make Rockstar. I, but I mean it's Rockstar. So you know they always have fire. Yeah, they did make Rockstar, I mean Rockstar did make Midnight.

Speaker 1:

Club right yeah.

Speaker 2:

Rockstar. I just found this out Take Two Initiative Is who make 2K and Rockstar, so they both fall under them. Oh really, yeah, so that's why?

Speaker 1:

I didn't know. Take Two was under there. 2k.

Speaker 2:

Soundtrack be crazy too.

Speaker 1:

I always knew like Sports games like Madden, yeah, like they always had fire soundtracks, like you'd just be in the menu just ready to run through somebody Crazy, and that's the thing, man.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, so racing was your thing, yep, and you said Red Turismo and Need for Speed was road and track.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was my first two that got me like locked into racing, basically anything that's fun. I would say my runner-up for racing would be like story-driven games or adventure games like action, you know. So like the Tomb Raiders. Yeah, the Uncharted games were crazy man, I've been trying to get into that man.

Speaker 2:

I think they had like it was free.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they had like the whole trilogy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was free. Yeah, they had like the whole trilogy yeah, it was free.

Speaker 1:

I was trying to get into that man, I ain't beat the first one, but I beat all the other ones and man, they are wild ride bro. It's like playing a movie, is it? It's the male version of, like Tomb Raider.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so Tomb Raider man like I used to get so mad at Tomb Raider bro.

Speaker 1:

I so mad at Tomb Raider bro.

Speaker 2:

I loved it, though, man, because it was just like I think that was like one of the free games you got when you first got the PlayStation, Because you had Parappa the Rapper and you had Tomb Raider oh man, yeah, yeah man what? Kick punch man what? But yeah, so Tomb Raider was definitely. It was a. I like the games for the fact that it's a critical thinking. You have to think with those games Absolutely, and one is my favorite Assassin's Creed.

Speaker 1:

Oh see, I don't think you could ever beat that game. Nah, my brother was heavy in all the.

Speaker 2:

Assassin's Creed. I don't think you can beat the game, bro. It's so long bro, Like it's like Like all right, what's next? What's next? What's next? Like I've never seen anybody, I don't even know if you can. Yeah, I don't know either. It's just a forever game. But yeah, I try to get into those games, man. Yeah, I definitely. On PlayStation Plus, I try to see like what, what new games or free games they got and try to play, just download them, see what it is. But yeah, so you said Uncharted Tomb Raider and what was the other one?

Speaker 1:

Racing got Adventure, action, action, adventure and Shooter. So I was, I was. I was in the first Call of Duty, I was on that train and then when Battlefield came out, I became a Battlefield head, battlefield, and that's been it. Listen bro, like the new age shooters, I really didn't get on because they just do too much. You have like gadgets and special effects and stuff and I was like that's just too much.

Speaker 2:

Did you play the new Battlefield?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how do you like it. One and five are my favorite.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say three, three, oh, three, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought you had the latest one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but three the best.

Speaker 2:

Up here, unmatched, throwing grenades and a wall, blowing up a hole, blowing up in the wall, absolutely Just breaching everything.

Speaker 1:

What man playing that full volume immersed? Yes, I'm like I'm here.

Speaker 2:

That's what I like, so five, I like it. My boys don't, but I love it for the simple fact it still has some of the Battlefield 3 elements. I just think they rushed it and tried to put it out Because, remember, you couldn't even talk to nobody in your squad unless you was in a party chat, which I didn't understand. That For like a year or two you couldn't talk to nobody and I'm like man, why y'all rush this game when y'all know it's a One?

Speaker 1:

the map is huge, you definitely got to squad up yeah you got to squad up I got to know what you're doing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I need to know hey, tell me what we're going to do, what objective are we getting, or whatever. And I think sometimes, man, they just kind of like screwed the pooch on that one man. Yeah, but I still like it though.

Speaker 1:

That's why I said one and five. Yeah, because one was just raw. Yeah, it was just raw man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think I like three the most because I was living that world, the urban warfare, you know, what I mean and it was like, okay, this is probably the closest it's going to get to reality. But man, it's some other game that's about to come out. I don't know if they're going to release it, but that joint looked super real, like I'm like man when is this coming out?

Speaker 2:

I forgot the name of it, man, it was a. Some streamer guy was playing it and I was just like but he be playing everything he was playing. Man, he was playing this creepy. This joint was scarier than Resident Evil. Like scary game, oh man.

Speaker 1:

I got a. I feel like I got a sick thing with scary games. Bro, I will watch somebody play the absolute most terrifying horror game Like I tried it. You know what I'm saying. When I had my, I beat it, I beat it. I played what is it? Outlast yeah, A hell of a ride. I played the DLC for Outlast Beat it Another hell of a ride. Absolute, phenomenal game. It's just like if we had a movie off of that, they would have to do it right. But if they did it right, it would probably be one of the best movies.

Speaker 2:

That's dope Now. That will lead me to the next question man what game do you think would be great for movies?

Speaker 1:

Well, you know they did Uncharted as a movie, did they? They did With uh.

Speaker 2:

Tom.

Speaker 1:

Holland and Mark Wahlberg.

Speaker 2:

No bro, I never, I never, I thought it was phenomenal, Like I thought it was phenomenal. Is it on what it's on Netflix?

Speaker 1:

It's on everything now. I think I absolutely enjoyed it because I played the game and beat it, so it's not direct to it. But Uncharted could be a movie about its own thing because it's literally treasures and you know what's that? One movie with Nicolas Cage when he like Not the Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 2:

National Treasure. National Treasure yeah, it's stuff like that, where it can always be something.

Speaker 1:

I mean, they're still doing Indiana Jones, which is crazy. Which is crazy. Let that man rest Right, let bro rest.

Speaker 2:

That is crazy, but I don't even. I don't even know when the last Indiana Jones I ever seen. I thought it was.

Speaker 1:

I thought it was. I saw an ad for it. I was like man. But yeah, okay, but yeah, they did that movie. What game.

Speaker 2:

So you said Uncharted. But what else Uncharted?

Speaker 1:

I don't think, man. Like they did Alien, Well, they actually did.

Speaker 2:

Alien was first Then they did a game off Alien vs Predator.

Speaker 1:

It was Alien, it was the other way around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't know Some game, like it depends man. Like I said, hit or miss, you gotta have the right team, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like doing it, yeah, and I think that's so. Of course, you know, mortal Kombat had they movies and stuff like that. Yeah, I think they gotta have a Call of Duty movie oh damn, last of Us.

Speaker 1:

They had a movie. It's a series on HBO. They absolutely killed that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh my gosh oh man, I gotta check that out yeah, me and my bro.

Speaker 1:

it took a. Well, he beat it. I started playing it on stream but I never finished it, but I watched somebody else play it and finish it, so I know the thing. But oh, man, like they do, like the game and the TV show side-by-side, bro. Yeah, it's the same, if not better, because they took the script writing and the same producers, same writers, same developers that have worked on the show.

Speaker 2:

That's smart, if you're going to do it, do it the right way, and I was like if y'all ever doing anything like.

Speaker 1:

Y'all need to take a key from this moving forward and hit it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, I think they got to do it like a Call of Duty Battlefield.

Speaker 1:

I think if they do that, they should do a series, but like a yeah, yeah, cause, um, it's so much.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's too much. Yeah, it's so much cause Advanced Warfare, that's the only one I didn't really like. Yeah, that's the one that turned me off. Yeah, I was like, nah, I don't know if I'm ever getting another one. Yeah, cause you're doing a lot of gadgets and all that stuff jumping up, right what they already jumping in.

Speaker 1:

I was like why you See yeah nah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like nah. But, yeah, man Gaming videography. What other hobbies do you?

Speaker 1:

have. Oh man, it's crazy. I was just telling my bro I was like man since you know I'm in this space now and you know I'm networking, meeting people Like I got this long list. I got my notes of everything from years that I just had ideas. I was like I'll just revisit them when the time is right. I had merch. I want to come out with new merch now. So that's definitely going to be a thing. I'm still working out on what it will be. I definitely will be doing like athletic wear. Yeah, everybody's like real big on keeping up with their health and wellness yeah, man got to, that's a good market right there and then just dope gear in general. You know I just want to wear my own stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's how me and Kadeem we started ours. It was for, like, because we always rocked kicks. We love kicks, like you know. It would be dope if we had shirts that go with our kick. Absolutely, you know what I mean. And that's how it started. And then we just started just creating more, creating more, creating more. Yeah, man, I seen you in the gym, man. I definitely got back in the gym last December, man, because I was just like yo, you know what I mean, it's a love-hate with me.

Speaker 1:

With the gym.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, because like I did it, like think about it, bro I was in the gym for 11 straight years. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, in the military, that's a nonstop. Yeah, it's like I'm running, then I'm going to the gym, then I might run again. Or we had this thing where we did run, swim run. We would run two, three miles, then swim 20-something laps, then go back and run.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying 20 laps.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bro. So it was like yeah, like how many, you know what I'm saying? 20 laps, yeah, bro. So it was like yeah, like Like how many, you know what I mean? And it's like I got. What happened was when the girls came, that's when I was like you really do feel the same symptoms the moms do, like. So I was just Snacking away and I I still was running, though I was still working out, and then it was like I just was like man, I'm tired. I got, I just like I'm tired. But Kadeem was like bro, you should get back in the gym Because I couldn't sleep. You know what I mean? I had insomnia, bro.

Speaker 2:

And he was like bro get back in the gym he's like the gym will definitely help you, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1:

It like just wears naturally, yeah, and where's about naturally physically like this? This week for me personally, I have been, I've been going through with sleep and my insomnia hasn't been active for a while, I mean like years. So I don't think I'm about to have an episode, but I think just because of I'm just non-stop like yeah, with just doing stuff, right, still coming off the high from when bosses meet. Yeah, I just had a wedding I had to do Saturday. Yeah, then I work Sunday, then you know, I roll right into this week, yeah, and so it's like damn, I just want a moment to just do nothing and just catch up on like everything, like I sleep. Just, let me get a good reset.

Speaker 2:

It'll come man. That's what I learned, man? It's like you gotta know when to just shut it down, Because if not, it's gonna shut down when you don't want it to shut down Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And I experienced burnout before yeah, that burnout.

Speaker 2:

Is you really do crash? You don't want to do nothing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you really crash. I'm trying to not prolong it like I had the first time, so it's like I don't got much going on, like it's starting to slow down, like I mean only coming out here to do this, like only work Friday. I'm off this weekend. You know it's Mother's Day weekend Telling the kids the family Shout out to the moms. Shout out to all the mamas, the mamas to be Pet moms, all the moms. If you help raise something.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to you, mom, mom, mother's Day. Yeah, because you definitely need it. Man, yeah, but it's crazy, man, mother's Day is literally right around the corner.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And we did Wimbledon's meet and then theem planning for the next one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we've been. Did he run some things by you? Yeah?

Speaker 2:

He told me what you told him. Yeah, it's going to be crazy. He sent Matter of fact. He sent me what you was talking about, bro. Do you want to talk? You want to say something about it?

Speaker 1:

Hey listen, bro, do you wanna talk? You wanna say something about it? Hey, listen, he told me so. When bosses meet four, okay, cause I think the plan is here is to make each one just a little bit better than the next one, right? So the idea is to to do different errors of hip hop. So if you wanna just a quick google of like, like the source or, uh, double xl magazines, you know, just showcasing, you know the new artists are, what songs are popping right now, but instead of that, you know have creators, biographers, models, business owners would do something like that. So, you know, running by a boss man and I was like yo, I just want to see how everybody feel about it, cause I have ideas all the time, because it's just like when you go creative, that's just what you do you think of like you just have these wild thoughts randomly be running through your brain and you be like that'd be fire.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So when y'all met all y'all, I was like this shit about to be crazy. I'm going to ask him anyway. Like yo, I got an idea. He was like what you talking? I was texting to him. He was like yo, this man called me. He FaceTimed me immediately. Yeah. He was like that's dope I was like. Okay, okay so.

Speaker 2:

I'm not. He hit me right after Like bro, look at what I just sent you. Yeah, I was just like I'm like, oh yeah, this will be hard. And I was like you know what would be Even crazier? Because we don't. I said Everybody Didn't just gravitate To hip hop. I said why not Make it pop?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, he was saying different, like categories, different genres yeah, yeah, genres, yeah, yeah, and he was like bruh, how did you think of that?

Speaker 2:

I said, bruh, you didn't gave me a concept. I was already thinking. You know, I do music like. You know what I mean? I'm a music producer engineer. So it's like me. I always think of those things cause it's like we don't have no magazine, no more for real, like the source been gone. The XXL is still here, but it's like who's really going to go buy those? Bro, that was my thing growing up. I used to love going to read the magazines. Everybody did, man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

See what's going on, see what was going on.

Speaker 2:

That was our social media. Yeah, that was the social media for real. Because we was like oh, Soulja Boy, who is this Right? Oh, Jeezy, Me and Kadeem was in Iraq when we heard, bro me and him bought the Jeezy out first album and Gucci man first album because they both dropped in 05. Wow, so we, bro, we got like these portable DVD players in the truck, banging that in the truck, banging that in the truck while we in Iraq in combat.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

that's what's up, bro, doing crazy yeah that's crazy and I be trying to tell people like music is more than just music. Oh yeah, it's culture, it's lifestyle, it's how you was brought up. Like you know what I mean. Like it tells stories and it's like, even with this, I'm telling you the story on how I found out about Atlanta. You know what I mean. Like I had family in Atlanta and, of course, outkast. Like you know what I mean, one of my favorite groups. Shout out to the Dundon family too, and rest in peace to Rico Wade. But yeah, man, that was one of my favorite production teams. You know what I mean Organized Noise it still is. You know what I mean, but it's just so much music I just can't pinpoint one, two, three, top exactly so many of them. But yeah, man, when that first came out, man, I'm like to the trap house in my trap house and it was like I can relate to that because I'm from detroit. I I have family, you know I mean in that type of time.

Speaker 2:

You know I'm saying, dealing, doing those things, and I was just like man, this joint hitting, and then jay-zy come out and then Boys in the Hood came out, like everything was coming out around the same time and I'm like yo.

Speaker 1:

That was my one of my first CDs I was able to buy. I couldn't, my mom wouldn't let me get NWA. Yeah, but she let me get Snoop.

Speaker 2:

Which is crazy.

Speaker 1:

Exactly so I got Snoop CD, I got Dre's CD and I got DMX's CD. Those were my first three CDs that I was able to buy.

Speaker 2:

These kids don't even know about CDs bro, we were just having this conversation.

Speaker 1:

While I was doing it, I was like so do you know what LimeWire is? Do you know what we? We were just like going through the history of like what we grew up on. She was just like don't find it. Yeah, I don't know what. None of this stuff is yeah but um, yeah, man, it's, it's music and, to touch base on you, it's like that's what got me through high school. Is I DJ'd?

Speaker 2:

yeah, the soundtrack, bro, and that's what I've been thinking about doing DJing. Yeah about doing DJing yeah, because everybody was like yo, tweez, you always like this playlist, like I even made a workout playlist and I like it now because Apple, you can share it to everybody and everybody can collab and add to it.

Speaker 1:

Nice yeah, so you can share it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's dope and um. So yeah, they were like yo every time, like we had like the first one Bosses Meet we had, and everybody was like yo. This playlist is hard. And Kadeem asked me he's like bro, can you play some music and stuff. And I'm like all right, cool. So you know, I was like the DJ, but I didn't have no DJ equipment.

Speaker 1:

You just had the playlist with you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just had my playlist, man, I had my playlist and then he was asking for certain things. I throw it in. But I really want to like learn how to transition the music with actual, like DJ equipment, Like some DDJs or something like that, because that's another reason why I don't even really go to clubs out here. No more Like for one, I'm older, but two like I be listening to these DJs' transitions Trash, Trash, Absolute, horrible. And it's like you playing top 40 stuff, bro.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Like play the real stuff.

Speaker 1:

Play. The people that's in the club Play to your crowd Exactly.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. If it's Glorilla, play some Glorilla. If it's Sexy Red, play Sexy Red. But you know what I'm saying? It's like, come on, bro, like you playing the same stuff, and when I see you again At another location, you playing the same Stuff, and that's what. That's what I was. Like, man, I wanna start DJing, and I don't wanna do it To like DJ events, I just wanna do it Because that's another Arsenal to have as a producer. And an engineer. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Exactly man.

Speaker 2:

Just adding that element of it because, like I love sampling you know what I mean I love doing, even with editing, bro, like this, editing with the podcast is just like engineering Adding things, producing. I'm adding clips, Like for this one, because we're using it off the phone, right. Like, of course, I'm going to be combining clips, but I'm also adding in commercials you know what I mean of my sponsors. It's a whole production. Yeah, it's a whole production. So it's like I relate to it so easy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man, that's definitely, that's dope. Like man, being being an engineer in production is like just just saying that, like like clean, you know, because that is, that is something. That is like a one-up, and even even doing that and what you know to add another thing to your revenue, man is like a master class to show people how to do what you do, or teach them the basics at least. Yep, and that right there, like just the business stuff. Like when you learn something and you go through every motion to get to where you are like okay, now I'm at a point where I could teach somebody else how to do this, and that's when you really be bossing up.

Speaker 2:

Just when you really be bossing up, that's when you teach somebody to do something and then it's like, oh shit, like this dude, he not do this, he not do this, he not do this, what can't he do? I don't know, I'll figure it out when I find out Exactly. But other than that man, like I'm going to keep pushing it, I'm going to keep pushing it. I just feel like it just prepares you for whatever. Yeah, man, you got to be man. I feel like anything you want to do in life, man, you got to figure, you got to find out how to do it. Yeah, yourself. Yeah, because you could be told. Yeah, people are going to tell you all day, hey, do it like this. To come back with it and be like why I'm doing it this way, why is it this way? You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

And then from there, Think of it like this Like we all went to school Well, I'm assuming we all went to school, right, we all had teachers, they all taught us something that was like the standard, and we all ended up with our own way of what we was taught and you picked up on, you gravitated to what subject touched you the most.

Speaker 2:

Yep, like, all right, cool math, boom. All right history, boom, all right English. Like you know what I mean. You knew everybody. That's how you kind of like figure out where you want to go ahead, get ahead in life. It's from those standards. But you learn to alter those standards to where you're really trying to go, because sometimes the standards ain't the success route Absolutely. But yeah, man.

Speaker 1:

I always say that, and my math teacher be so proud of me now. I was a problem in math, bro. I did not. Math for some reason was not my thing. And then they started putting letters with numbers and shapes and numbers and letters. I'm like oh, oh, nah, I don't know what y'all got going on, but this ain't for me, bro. I don't know what happened, but the pluses, the minuses, I'm cool with that Everything else I was like not having it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think that's where I feel like, education-wise, that's where they need to start honing in on the skills and bringing back the electricians, bringing back the Voters yeah, man, they don't have shop classes and stuff.

Speaker 1:

No, more.

Speaker 2:

I went to shop classes and all that.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean shop classes and stuff. No more. I went to shop classes and all that. You know what I mean. Home ec learn how to cook breakfast.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bruh, all that, all of that, bro. They need to bring that back, because everybody ain't meant for to just go and do book work all the time. Yeah, but the book work don't necessarily get you where you trying to go. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, so I'll tell people that All the time, man. But before we get out of here, though Okay, I didn't do it With Kadeem when bosses meet, I always do this thing. It's called Gym class. Gym class G-E-M, g-e-m, yeah, so what gym.

Speaker 2:

Can you give To the relatives out there that they can, you know, add to their toolbox and help them? You know what I mean. Get you know, traverse through life.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, let me sip some water on this. That was a big one. I know A big one. Man dropping gems. I will share this with you guys. Man dropping gems. I, I, I will share this with you guys.

Speaker 1:

Personal experience is do whatever it is that you want to do. But not only that. What I really want to say is, when you do whatever it is you want to do, don't listen to that voice in the back of your head that says you can't. And I'm going to prepare you for the hard.

Speaker 1:

Truth is not everybody is going to support you. Family, friends, close ones, loved ones, all of that. Just get ready for it. It will be false love. They will try to talk you out of it. They will try to say you're too old or too this, or you really want to do this. They'll try to sway you. Stick, stand on business with it. Stick to your guns. Stand on business, because if you let the smallest voice win you over, your direction is going to change. Your momentum is going to change, your energy is going to change. Your momentum is going to change, your energy is going to change and you're just going to be like yeah, you're right, you're going to give in, don't give in relatives, don't give in stand on business, on what you want to do and do it damn good. You're going to fail, but look forward to the fail, because that's when you learn to do it better that's game.

Speaker 2:

That's a hell of a gym. That was like a few gyms in one.

Speaker 1:

You know, hey, I'll take that man, I'm a giver.

Speaker 2:

I'm a giver, hey, man, it's wrong. Ain't nothing wrong with being a giver, man, ain't nothing wrong with it. You got to get a game. You got to give it because you can't. If you don't take, it's just out there. Yeah, it's just out there.

Speaker 1:

It's just out there, it's just going to stay floating.

Speaker 2:

You know, yeah, it's just going to be in the clouds, man, it's in the clouds. So, man, I appreciate you, bro, frankie, man, you're super dope.

Speaker 1:

Appreciate you for having me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, we definitely got to get some more. You know, work in it ain't even got to be, stuff and everything. But yeah, man, I appreciate you coming down man Taking that ride. Oh man, the ride from Chantilly man.

Speaker 1:

That's a different topic, that's a different, that's a different conversation.

Speaker 2:

Right there, man it takes people like you to get to where you're trying to go, because that lets you know how serious people are. Yeah, man, like when they make them drive that hour and a half drive just to get here, just to shoot the pot. Yeah, man, because to keep it a bean.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I had so many. I had so many things that bad habits was kicking in my brain, bro. Yeah, just backing out of things, because that was that back of the head talking to you that back of the. It's like yo find something, like yo, we got to reschedule. Yeah, we got to do something and that's on me. That's something that I've been working with and that's way better now, but I would talk myself out of something so quick, Easily, easily.

Speaker 2:

We good at that. Virgo's definitely good at that.

Speaker 1:

Oh man. But since I said yes to that one thing, I've been saying yes to everything.

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