Ever thought genuine relationships could outweigh the lure of money? Listen to us as we uncover the invaluable power of authentic connections in our latest episode, "Relationships Worth More Than Money." TAZ shares personal stories, including a venue permission mishap and a brush with a fake Kash Doll account, to highlight how respect and integrity pave the way for lasting success. Our journey through the music industry, particularly as female artists, showcases the importance of aligning with producers who understand our unique sound and the joy of finding supportive communities in cities like Houston and Atlanta.
Explore our creative process and the challenges female artists face, from navigating industry frustrations to celebrating influential figures like Megan Thee Stallion and Cardi B. We reflect on how performances in different cities have shaped our perspectives, turning initial struggles for recognition into powerful lessons on community and collaboration. Further, we dive into the personal growth that comes with balancing the pressures of mental health, and building a music career. Our candid discussions reveal the resilience and authenticity needed to stay true to one's vision amidst the chaotic dynamics of professional relationships.
Finally, we delve into the nuances of evolving relationships, the significance of crowd engagement during performances, and the delicate balance of personal and professional growth. From reconciling with past colleagues to celebrating new milestones, our experiences underscore the importance of staying committed to one’s path, no matter the setbacks. We'll also discuss our ongoing projects and aspirations, emphasizing the power of self-belief and consistency. Join us for an inspiring episode that not only celebrates the triumphs but also the trials that define our journey in the music industry.
Relationships Worth More Than Money by Tweezy Kennedy & Marcus Alland
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Ever thought genuine relationships could outweigh the lure of money? Listen to us as we uncover the invaluable power of authentic connections in our latest episode, "Relationships Worth More Than Money." TAZ shares personal stories, including a venue permission mishap and a brush with a fake Kash Doll account, to highlight how respect and integrity pave the way for lasting success. Our journey through the music industry, particularly as female artists, showcases the importance of aligning with producers who understand our unique sound and the joy of finding supportive communities in cities like Houston and Atlanta.
Explore our creative process and the challenges female artists face, from navigating industry frustrations to celebrating influential figures like Megan Thee Stallion and Cardi B. We reflect on how performances in different cities have shaped our perspectives, turning initial struggles for recognition into powerful lessons on community and collaboration. Further, we dive into the personal growth that comes with balancing the pressures of mental health, and building a music career. Our candid discussions reveal the resilience and authenticity needed to stay true to one's vision amidst the chaotic dynamics of professional relationships.
Finally, we delve into the nuances of evolving relationships, the significance of crowd engagement during performances, and the delicate balance of personal and professional growth. From reconciling with past colleagues to celebrating new milestones, our experiences underscore the importance of staying committed to one’s path, no matter the setbacks. We'll also discuss our ongoing projects and aspirations, emphasizing the power of self-belief and consistency. Join us for an inspiring episode that not only celebrates the triumphs but also the trials that define our journey in the music industry.
Relationships Worth More Than Money by Tweezy Kennedy & Marcus Alland
available on all streaming platforms!
Instagram: @rwmtm
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We back, we back, we back for another segment of Don't Get Finesse Relationships Worth More Than Money podcast.
Speaker 2:Ooh.
Speaker 1:Mm.
Speaker 2:That's what it's about.
Speaker 1:That's what it's about.
Speaker 2:Relationships Worth More Than Money. You always stood by that, because when I first met you, that's the first thing you said.
Speaker 1:Remember that was going to be the name of the album that I did, but then I switched it to Terry Redd. Yes, remember that? Yes, so I was like you know what, I'm sticking with it.
Speaker 2:You've always said that that's crazy, that sounds good, though.
Speaker 1:To me it's like, yeah, you can get to the money. I mean, you got street dudes, you got street chicks, you got. However, you get it, however, you get it, but at the end of the day it's all about the relationship that's going to carry that further. You know what I'm saying. So I always tell people like it ain't really about the money, the money going to come, it's about relationships.
Speaker 2:I just told I had to get approval for a venue location for a video by the owners and they was basically saying like they respect that I came and asked for permission because a lot of people just use their property without um having permission and I was like it's about building relationships and networking. So you don't want to mess the relationships up when you can have more opportunities to come back and keep filming if I want to you know, with your permission, of course, but um, yeah, I understand that that's a good name you stuck with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, got to, had to, had to. That's good. I mean, at the end of the day, like it's bigger than just one thing. You know what I mean money come and go. Money come and go relationships.
Speaker 2:That's rare. They don't last forever they don't last forever.
Speaker 1:And then the ones that do. That's when you know for sure. Yeah, it's rare to get something good and solid. Yeah, it's definitely cause, um, you never, you never know, you never know you might have somebody that's in your corner then they go on the next, then they go on the next, talk about it. The holidays change. It's always four quarters in the year you know what I mean maybe seasons.
Speaker 1:I don't like that four quarters, four, you know what I mean. Maybe seasons? I don't like that. Four quarters, four seasons, I don't like that. Yeah, but that's the thing though, like, even though you got four quarters and four seasons, it's all about who stay down. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I don't. It's not too many people, I can say, to stay down.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. I mean for real. For real, like I can, I know for a fact, like you know what I mean. Shit, since teenagers you know what I mean, but you gotta, you gotta, speak on it because they need, they need to know, they need to know.
Speaker 3:Oh, where do you want to start? I mean, like.
Speaker 1:So we talked about the finesse game from Buddy from Philly right.
Speaker 2:Kind of made me not interested in doing any more like videos or not videos like showcases.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because when I was trying to get you to do a showcase, you were like eh, and I did.
Speaker 2:I did that a lot like when something happened to me tragic, or something that's like big to me happened, I hold on to it and then I take that the next place. I was like I don't want to do that no more. I don't like how that feel or how that experience went.
Speaker 1:So I don't want to do it again. I think too, man, sometimes you gotta go through it. It's sad that you do, but it's like you gotta get a bump on the head to like figure out, like is it really worth it or is it not worth it? You know what I'm saying, like because sometimes the finesse game is to a whole nother level.
Speaker 2:I think it is. I agree, probably some stuff I haven't even experienced yet, but from what I've seen so far, yeah, like the text messages, I mean not the text messages, the DMs.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, they be like yo, this is the game or this is so-and-so.
Speaker 2:I got finessed like that from Cash Doll account. I remember you told me that and I told you.
Speaker 1:I said be careful, you got mad at me, I was so mad.
Speaker 2:You got mad at me, I was like no, it's Cash Doll, it's from her account. It got the blue check and then, like a day or two later, she made a video and said y'all, I'm so sorry. Like that wasn't me, my page got hacked.
Speaker 1:She was like trust me like I don't need nobody money. Yeah, because Cash Doll, definitely she down to earth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she is. I could see that. That's why I love Cash Doll. She's super down to earth. I was so pressed I'm like look, cash Doll hit me.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't know. I'm like that, don't look right. He was like no, it's Cash Doll. I'm telling you, I'm like that, don't look right, man, Because she will call you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like it was to that point when she really was fucking with me. If I was even that big and made that much noise, she would have been like what's up? Like I fuck with your son. I feel like she would directly do it.
Speaker 3:I was so pissed, I'm like Cash on.
Speaker 2:Paige. I really thought like, oh bitch, this is it Like I love Cash on.
Speaker 1:But she, she, uh, I'm glad she did do that, because someone won't even do that.
Speaker 2:They don't, They'll just let it be whatever and like what you think, whatever, because I guess all publicity is good, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some publicity ain't though it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not because I'm glad she did, because I kept. I was like this is weird. Like hey, y'all reaching out. Like yeah, send me your tracks. I'm like on Instagram.
Speaker 1:Right Tracks, though Tracks who says that yeah, man, that's two, so that's two, finesses you got finessed twice.
Speaker 2:Yes, I've been finessed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got finessed twice. Two, yeah, but um, some of these folks, uh, you know they come and go Mm-hmm, but let's talk about, like, the music. When I first met you. Okay, let's run it back. What song, was it? What? My um, I think it was like two songs in one, and that's when Mia was with you. Yeah, mia was with you. Yeah, mia was with you. You still talk to me no see, you just said things come and go relationships come and go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, dang that's crazy unfortunately not yeah, but I remember cause you was writing mhm and um. What was the name of the song?
Speaker 2:um. Was it www or it was two songs? It was.
Speaker 1:It was a freak song at the end yeah, it was, but I know it was two songs and then you, you, uh, you played some more music and I'm like yo, this shit hard like that's, when I really was getting into my rap, and I'm like yo this shit hard.
Speaker 2:That's when I really was getting into my rap. Yeah, and I'm like why you ain't what we doing, what you doing. I was scared, oh my God. I was scared because I'm like they not going to like it, they not going to really Listen, ain't nobody going to support it If I put it out, oh my God.
Speaker 1:Nah, the joint was already To me. I feel like what you're doing now Mm-hmm. No, what you was doing back then is what they're doing now.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So that's what I'm looking like, and I don't like to be the person that be like. See, I'm glad you see that I told you so.
Speaker 2:And I always learn the hard way, like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:When what I'm not doing, I'm already doing it. But I don't see it as that.
Speaker 1:So then, like I kind of Because everybody that's out right now, all the big Doing.
Speaker 2:all the shit that I was doing back then was just crazy.
Speaker 1:Saying everything still rapping, saying everything you were saying.
Speaker 2:You got. Sometimes I'm just now learning that you got to like believe in yourself and like stick to that, because I always, I always come up with a dope ass idea and then, when I don't do it, I'll see a bigger artist doing it and I'll be like yeah, oh my God, that would have been fire. I knew it would have. That's so crazy.
Speaker 1:It always happened to me like that and for real, like cause, I was like yo, I Yo, I said Glorilla.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:I say Tina Snow, she was out around the same time. I love Megan, but you was talking that. Talk too.
Speaker 2:I was.
Speaker 1:You was talking that.
Speaker 2:talk too, that's what made y'all was like yo Because she can rap.
Speaker 1:Hell, yeah, and I be trying to tell people yeah, I mean women going to talk about their bodies, and that's good. I want them to. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think that's why I did that mix in that song. I did that one track where I was talking about shit like a nigga and then the second track was like all right, but I could talk like this too.
Speaker 1:You can get both of them, and that when women be rapping about all of that. But if you think about it, you go back and listen to their raps, what they talking about.
Speaker 2:They talking about the same thing.
Speaker 1:The same thing.
Speaker 2:They talking about pussycars, clothes, jewelry and drugs, and drugs.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It's always the same.
Speaker 1:Y'all might just be y'all might X out the drugs and then just substitute it with I don't even think like that Pass me the J in the song. Yeah you know what I'm saying. You know weed to me is like it's medicinal, so I don't use that as like y'all, that's what y'all, y'all don't be. Some of them do. But when you would rap I'd be like yo. That got harder.
Speaker 2:Ooh.
Speaker 1:I'm like yeah.
Speaker 2:That was just the beginning for me, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then we used to, we used to pull up at the old spot at the townhome and I'd be like what the fuck she coming from with this Cause you be like yo, you, you have to do let me pull up. I want to just do it, I like.
Speaker 2:I love, I still love being in the studio. That's like my safe space where I can go vent and just clear my head. So, like that's what I used to do, because I used to be going through shit, so anything I wrote about and came to record with you, that's because I just went through that and I done put it in this song and I gotta let it out and then I want to hear it back in my own ears and you used to like, you used to make me produce your beats.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, so like, because I have, you know me. I got a ton of beats and you be like mm-mm.
Speaker 2:It was the sound I was looking for, Right? I'm like I used to, so when I first started doing music and people would send me beats, I would just accept whatever they gave me before I knew my sound. But then I was like that's what I got started looking for. So when you would play me your beats I'd be like it's okay it sounds like I need to be rapping different on here.
Speaker 3:I would get pissed.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I understood, though I was like no PZ. You made it from start to finish and I'm like, but it's not my sound.
Speaker 1:But it helped me though, and I always tell people that. I always tell people that I'm glad it pushed you and didn't make you feel like you go somewhere else. Even when you produce, you thinking like, when I produce, I'm producing on what I felt, just like how y'all write you sensitive about your shit. Yeah, so when you was like nah, I would get pissed because I'm like nah, this is the-.
Speaker 1:I remember that. I'm like nah, this is-. But it was one though. I'm like nah, this is you, this is your lane. It was super simple. What was the V? I?
Speaker 1:forgot it was like- yeah, I had to play it after this. I think I for sure got it. But it was like Because I'm dive into the female realm, so that's why I wouldn't get super mad, I'd just be like she bullshit. I know this beat will go hard, but I was like you know what, let me go into her world, because that's what you got to do you got to think Like if you? Writing for somebody else. Yeah, you got to go into their world.
Speaker 2:So I was like you know what, All right, bet I taking like them trap simple beats, because I knew you can build around it, because that's what that was the thing like sometimes. Yeah, yeah, you just take it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, take it out. Take, take some of the instruments out and let her just, let let people just go, and then you can add to it, if you want to add to it or not. So then after that I was like, oh yeah, okay, I see where she, because when we recorded that one I forgot what song, but I don't even think you put it out either.
Speaker 2:I had a lot of songs I didn't put out.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying but it was that one when you just went in because you was like yo, I'm going to be back.
Speaker 2:And then you came back and you just went through the whole song and I work on this track and I have it done like before I go to the studio. I want to know how I'm gonna say it where. I'm gonna take a pause. That's a punch in that, like I told myself that. That's why it would be easy for me to come and record you and just say it full out yeah because, when you came, I'm like okay, she. I knew it. I was like I was ready.
Speaker 1:Like you, you did something different, because you know like you would come and I would charge you little to nothing. You know what I mean. And I was just like it was affordable too.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh yeah, Let me put my money to the side, and it's going to go to Tweezy before I can record it.
Speaker 1:Because I just I felt I'm not about to charge you an arm and a leg.
Speaker 2:Thank you, because back then I wasn't sitting like I'm sitting now.
Speaker 1:Right but even then, if you were sitting, how you were sitting, like I wasn't going to charge you because I know we was building something. You know what I'm saying. And I was just like, nah, I ain't going to do that. And I was like yo, like what be going on in your head? For, like, artist wise, like to help the other? You know female artists out there, or male artists, like how do you? Thank you for saying that?
Speaker 2:Cause we didn't talk about that.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, like cause, how do you like set yourself up for the studio, like what's your, what's your prep, like your prep time when you, when you working on your music or you hear something?
Speaker 2:So, in order for me to write at all, I think my thing is when I'm going through shit, and when I'm going through shit like my mind all over the place I don't know where to start. I know I want to write something, but I don't know what I want to write, but my mind is like just write what's going on.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I could tell you how I'm feeling about it. You know maybe a little bit more in there, but just like write the first thing to come to mind, like what happened. Like that's where I'll start. What happened, how it made me feel, and then I start talking about, like what I could have did or what should have happened in the situation. So that kind of helped me build the song. That kind of helped me build the song, and then from there, like once I like find me a beat to go with it sometimes I can either have the lyrics already ready or I might find me a beat that made me be like this is where I'm going at, this is where I'm going with it and then, like once, I can find like the melody of how I want to play this back, like we'll put this here, make it come together.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like a puzzle thing type of thing for me mentally. Once I put it together, then I know how I want to say it. I rehearse it a couple times, like I got a million drafts. I use a little app to record myself with the beat and behind my vocals and just to hear how I want it to sound when I do go to the studio. So when I come to you I'll be like, nah, nah, right, here is where I want to say this line, because I know how I got it lined up. So yeah, so once I go over my drafts and I hear myself back and then I finally get a whole full out draft of me, all my vocals and how I want my placements and stuff, then I'm like, all right, yeah, now I'm ready to go record. Okay, so when I go record I just sound like I was ready because I've been practicing Like I've been getting on my shit Like.
Speaker 2:I built up to how I wanted to come and do it. Not always that helped me in and out quick, Like I could record a song, a whole song, in an hour.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, you spoke on the part where I was like male and female. Yes, what about it?
Speaker 2:So it's this thing I get hip-hop is supposed to be male-dominant industry, right, and of course we got female hip-hop. Yeah, supposed to be male dominant industry, right, and of course we got female hip hop, yeah. You know like we like the underdogs in the industry, but right now we taking over Y'all the top dogs, we taking over Y'all the top dogs. Now everybody's starting to like pay attention to females because they going just as hard as the niggas.
Speaker 2:And I feel like I'm in this place where, when I ask producers like send me beats, they send me the most girliest shit. I'm like listen.
Speaker 1:They listen to you.
Speaker 2:They don't. Oh, it blows my mind because I'm like, do you listen to me? Have you listened to any of my music? Like, do I sound like all I want I could talk about Poppin' Pussy and Got my Nails. I could be that I could do that. But like, if you really listen to me and like you a fan of what I do or like just a supporter of what I do, overall, you'll know like I listen to real nigga shit, like I love Young Dolph I always tell people this I love Gucci man.
Speaker 2:I like Listen to Dirk Moneybagg. Yo, like I like their cadence and that's what I relate to more than I do to females and I always been like that. I always related more to niggas than I have females. So I'm like why they just won't like accept me as I can be in, I can go head to head with either one men or female, but don't put me in the categories with the women, because, oh, I'm supposed to shake my ass, look cute and talk about titties and all that. It's cute every now and then, but I pop my shit like a nigga too, I think what it's going to take-.
Speaker 2:They don't see us equal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what it's going to take is for you to actually get on one of those records with another dude oh, I already got something.
Speaker 2:I got something coming, you do.
Speaker 1:I got something coming. You can't speak on it though, can you? Uh-uh, all right, I'll be sitting back waiting. I'm going to be dropping soon.
Speaker 2:I say because I feel like this year is like my year, when I say send me beats, they send me the girliest shit, but then they'll send some niggas, some Dolph shit, or they'll send them some Gotti shit, Like why they get them beats and I get the yup, yup, like I don't want that.
Speaker 1:So who's sending the beats? Are they from this area or are they from everywhere they be?
Speaker 2:for everywhere. Because originally, like you know, when you first sign up with BeatStars and then when you start buying beats on there or YouTube, they send you, like keep sending you beats. But then eventually I started reaching out, like on people on my social media, on my story yeah, I would be like just send me beats and I would post my email. So sometimes I just get random beats like hey, taz, I seen that you posted this, listen to this pack Right, and I would get beats'm not feeling like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think sometimes with producers when they get those emails, they see you.
Speaker 2:They're not listening though.
Speaker 1:And try to put what they see. Oh yeah, I'm about to. I'm about to send these type of beats Instead of like, really like, studying you, yes, and then send them.
Speaker 2:Yes, please.
Speaker 1:Study me.
Speaker 2:I have to tell them. I'll be like hey, don't send me no bitch beats, I swear, ask anybody who sent me a beat. I'll be like don't send me no female beats. Send me that hard shit that you would this person, that person.
Speaker 1:So, out of the females, who are you listening to?
Speaker 2:Megan Megan. I got an actual whole female playlist right now.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure you.
Speaker 2:I figured that Girls, the girls is up, it's our year, it's our summer, it's our season. Of course, megan Glow, she been doing her big one. Yeah, she been watching Her girl Gloss Up. I love her sound because she's Southern, like I got that Southern accent and I love it. There's just something about it and they just everybody sound like they hard. Who else? Who else? I said else, see, look, my accent came out. What's the girl? Is it Anaya Elise? She be like huh, yeah, I like her. She got that deep, raspy voice. I like that. I got. Who else? Of course, you know Cardi. She been dropping her singles lately. I got a whole playlist full of girls. Yeah, I don't. Who else have I been cranking, though? Female, that might be it right now. I got some men mixed in there too, like the folder called my A folder. There too, it's my. The photo called my A folder, my A folder. It's just like A like my turn up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a A.
Speaker 2:A yeah, like A like. It's the turn up folder.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's my girl folder, but oh yeah, them the main females. I haven't came across no new up-and-coming people, I think. Oh, kenderman Mm-hmm, her, she, cold she is. That's the one who I opened up for in Houston.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, and I was about to ask you that I was about to ask you, I'm like oh. I saw you down in Houston.
Speaker 2:What the hell you doing in Houston, Houston For real.
Speaker 1:Yes, Told you. H-town man Shout out to H-Town. Shout out to H-Town Jesus, h-town be poppin'. Did you go to camp? Where do we go? I don't know what spot you was at, but I know camp, camp Pop.
Speaker 2:Was it camp.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think it was camp.
Speaker 2:Did they have?
Speaker 1:on like little camp outfits, the girls.
Speaker 2:Well, they all had, they all matched my shit. They all had them pink. So I can't remember the name, don't get me, but I'm going to look it on my page, but it was so it was everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my bro Nwosu, he from H-Town, he had us, he was our God.
Speaker 2:He had us man, he was everywhere. I freaking loved it. And for that to be like my first real big crowd Because that was her crowd they came to see her but it was important?
Speaker 3:Did they rock with?
Speaker 2:it. Oh my God, let me tell you something. Down south they fuck with me. That's why I go down there, but you always know like. Atlanta.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They always Like my first time going To Atlanta, like they show so much love. I was like damn, like I gotta come back. But you always know Atlanta, yeah, they always Like my first times Going to Atlanta, like they show so much love. I was like damn, like I gotta come back.
Speaker 1:Like you would've thought, I've been putting music out Like for years and I had built this fan base when you from Normally gonna be the last people to pick up On your music Everywhere else. Gonna rock with you Before the people.
Speaker 2:Your hometown. I tell people that I would be like I wish my city or at least I kind of look at it different now. Back then I used to look at it like I wish my city supported me, because they weren't. Everybody had that mindset like I ain't making it, you ain't making it. So I would just be like I'm just going to creativity elsewhere because you know, in Atlanta they got so many different creative things down there, like they got pop up shops, trap museums they come up with, you know, all these trap artists. Like they sound as different, what they do is different and it's really creative. So I was like let me just try to go out there. Atlanta is like black Hollywood. So I went out there and then that was like the best response I got. That made me motivated even more. I was like okay. So like when I got to do the Houston one and I had a real big crowd in front of me like some shit you see on Instagram, like it's a real fucking show.
Speaker 1:You had nobody recording the footage. Yeah, I did so, my manager my manager.
Speaker 2:He do all the filming. He do damn near like he do all my filming whenever event we go to, so we can get some good content to put together. But oh my God, it was crazy. So like to kind of give you a rundown on it, I work with Big Cuz. He's a producer who makes Kendo Man's beats and other artists. That's out from Houston too, and he worked with other artists like's out from Houston too, and he worked with other artists like Mo3. Shout out to Big Cush.
Speaker 2:Big Cush, shout out to my mans, he's super dope he is and he's such a sweetheart so I loved him and his team so we got to link. Finally, because he was telling me about his events that he has and he wanted me to perform if I was interested. You know, gave me my slot, the slot information and what was available. So I was like okay, so I made sure I booked that and just being there, like when we got there, like the vibe, everybody was friendly, everybody was hi, how are you?
Speaker 1:And I was like that text is a hospitality difference.
Speaker 2:I'm so used to walking in the room and I'm smiling and they like, yeah, they so butt hurt.
Speaker 1:It's like what?
Speaker 2:you mad. Like I look good, you look good. Like I want to compliment you, bitch, why you can't compliment me, like why we can't have good energy. It's just at other places. But in Houston it was given like everybody was friendly, we had a nice big section up at the front where we was going to perform at, and then over and then, like I started, I like the fact when I get to a place where I'm about to perform, that I kind of get to read the room and get comfortable like to see, like what type of people I'm about to perform for, and they looked like they came to have a good time.
Speaker 2:So when I got to see the other artists and how they would perform, I was like, okay, like I know I could do this. And when Ken got there, that kind of gave me a little bit more, like, okay, it's go time, all right. So I got up there, me and my dancers, like we went off and like their response was like they started really yelling and like it was like, oh, shit, it's happening. Then I started talking my shit more, like okay, if you, a pretty bitch, make some motherfucking noise. And they was like, okay, like I seen phones and I'm like this shit is really happening. Okay, I was just like in the moment of when I rap, I be blacking out and I'm like in my zone, but at the same time I was shocked Like I ain't never heard no shit like this.
Speaker 2:So, down south. Definitely they give me the love I be looking for like at home, but I think at home they make you work a.
Speaker 1:I think it's to me they don't believe in it.
Speaker 2:They don't Not until they see it. Now, when they see it from them posting my shit in different outside of cities. They be like yo, you doing your thing. I'm so proud of you, but when I was doing it here you didn't support me.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right. And I be telling people all the time it. And I be telling people all the time, like it's like one of those mental battles you got to go through, like you got to understand, like, hey, everybody ain't going to be in your corner when you think they're going to be in your corner.
Speaker 2:And you know what I just learned? I told the girl, my girl, her Instagram is love underscore paper doll. She had hosted a cosplay event last night.
Speaker 1:The cosplay chick yeah, she followed me, but I didn't know who she was. I followed her back. You know me, I'm a follower.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's my girl. I used to work with her some years ago, her real name is Carla, but she's really into cosplay and we were talking about my performance last night. She's like yo, they really loved you and I was like last night kind of. It kind of made me change my mind of my thought of like my city don't support me.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:And it kind of made me think it wasn't my city, it was the people around me that wasn't supporting me. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And that right there made me say okay, because I've done so far I think, three, three or four DC performances in the past few months, and every event it was a small crowd or a big crowd, they was making noise and I was like, ok, it wasn't the city, it was the people that was around me that really wasn't trying to help me get to where I was going Like. So I think the city can support you.
Speaker 2:It's got to get to know you, you gotta pop out somewhere remind people like this is who I am, this is what I'm doing, and, like the responses I got last night, like I thought it was gonna be like a venue where I think it was supposed to be at Metro Bar or something, but it was at City Trends in Northeast was that Edgewood or Edgewood or something like that?
Speaker 3:Englewood. It's something, it's in.
Speaker 2:Northeast? I don't know about no DC stuff.
Speaker 3:I'm a.
Speaker 2:GPS girl y'all, yeah, but it was a really cute venue. It was like a warehouse type setup and it had like the little gaming systems where they do. Was it Throw Social. No, it wasn't Throw Social. I don't think it Was it throw social. No, it wasn't throw social. I don't think it said. City Trends on the outside of their building. Okay, city Trends, I'm going to have to check that out. It was a cute setup and I'll say there was about 50 people in there.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it wasn't a stage, so that meant I had to work the room.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:The area that we had. But but like it was a moment where when I first came out, I don't know where my energy came from. I think I was just like excited to be there because everybody was like hi, you look so cute, you and your girls. I was like thank you. That kind of gave me the energy I needed. So, like when I went to start the performance, just to test out the room, I'll hit them with the vibe check. I'm trying to see what y'all on so I test them out with my first few bars of my song and they just like okay. And I was like okay.
Speaker 1:But that's good, though.
Speaker 2:You know how to work the crowd, you know how to work the room I had to learn that a few times with a lot of my DC events because I had did recently. It was like an in the basement type of situation and it was a room full of niggas and I'm like, oh, I can't come in here talking about pretty bitch trap shit, I mean that's my songs and stuff.
Speaker 2:But I'm like I can't be like if you a pretty bitch and you like trap shit talking to these niggas. So I was like now I got to come different. So I was like I see it's a whole bunch of niggas in the room, but the pretty bitch is about to take over and they was like okay.
Speaker 1:I was like yeah, you gotta read the room, yeah, you gotta read the room, like I had one guy at that performance.
Speaker 2:I could tell the look in his face, the way he was looking at me like this little ass girl, she ain't about to talk about nothing, because it was only me and another girl. The other girl was doing R&B, she was singing. She can really sing too, but for me I felt like it was just me versus all of them, because all these niggas rap.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I'm the only female rapper in here, so I'm like okay, so I could tell this nigga. He looking at me like like girl, you ain't about to pop. No shit for real. So when. I got to rapping and he seen my dancers. I was like I started talking to him. Like every time I said a bar like that said nigga or bitch, I would look at him and make like a face and I started seeing him bob his head.
Speaker 1:He was like I said like yeah, nigga, like stop playing.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you got to make some people some believers, because he really wasn't at first, yeah, and I kind of felt like that when I realized it wasn't like a showcase where it was going to be a room full of people. It was just a space for, like, I guess, artists to come perform and kind of get their name out there, right, and it wasn't even on a platform, so it was just like whoever came down, like a in a dungeon type shit.
Speaker 1:So you got footage of that too yeah, we did.
Speaker 2:We haven't even put any of it out.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying like, as long as you're getting footage yeah, because you can always put it out later.
Speaker 2:You can always put it out later the journey and the grind they gonna see it. You know what I mean. They gonna know?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, she definitely was out here on the streets oh man, it was.
Speaker 2:And the fact that I had the niggas. I was like light this bitch up, like, get your phones out. They pulled their phones out and it was like, okay, all niggas, all niggas. Only females that came in the hood, in the hood, all niggas. I was like yo, okay, it made me feel like I did my big one. I was like that made me look at it different.
Speaker 1:Like it, the city. It was the people around me, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:So who your people that's around you now? Right now I've kind of been building my circle yeah. I cut back on a lot of people that I used to hang with. I don't have the same friends, no more Family ties cut Like. Right now it's my mom, my son. He's my everyday. He's my everyday, she's my everyday, my son's father. I talk to my friend Sid, my best friends Momo and Mikey.
Speaker 1:What's your manager name? Huh, what's your manager name.
Speaker 2:Coop.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Coop. Yeah, his social media is Abstract Media, abstract Media, abstract Media, abstract Media. Shout out to Coop, shout him out. He do like filming and stuff for the movies on Tubi, netflix and Prime.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:When the celebrities and stuff come in town, that's who they booking.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Abstract Media and his team. Yeah, I had to like rebuild my circle. I'm still building. Yeah, I had to like rebuild my circle. I'm still building. Yeah, I'm still removing some as situations come, you got to. Yeah, because you know it's like the more I go into this industry or whatever path I'm going through right now, I'm noticing people like they're dropping, like they're coming and they're going, or like they was here and now they got to go. So yeah they got to go.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, you got to sometimes, and I remember you was doing some acting, weren't you? Yeah, yeah, I did two movies. What's Buddy name?
Speaker 2:with the From.
Speaker 1:The Wire From the Wire Trey, yeah, yeah, that's who you like linked up to get in the movies, right? No, that wasn't him.
Speaker 2:Uh-uh, somebody else. Uh-uh, okay, I had an inside connect. Okay, okay. But so the first movie, which one? The first movie I had to audition for? I think that was Nightmare. No, no, no, that one was the dancing one when I had my stripper robe.
Speaker 1:And you was trying to make a song for that.
Speaker 2:I did make a song. Did you use it? My song is on it.
Speaker 1:So you used it. You knew the one we did, or another one you knew man. You didn't even tell me that. It's in both of them movies For real.
Speaker 2:It's in both of them.
Speaker 1:movies on Tubi Gets him both of the movies on Tubi. Matter of fact, that was the one when you came in the studio, you knew and you just went straight in.
Speaker 1:I was like man, that's how you feel that you knew that. Yeah, you knew, because, remember, you fought me, though, because you was like this ain't the song, what was it? You wanted to create something even harder, and you were like this ain't a strip song. I was like, yes, it is. You're like, no, it ain't. I'm like, listen to what you're saying and the beat. And you was like this, ain't it?
Speaker 2:I'm like I didn't feel it. I felt like I hate a selfish motherfucker, but I don't never forget shit.
Speaker 1:I ain't feel like it was a motherfuckers be twerking to.
Speaker 2:They talking shit.
Speaker 1:They are At that time.
Speaker 2:I was talking shit. But I wasn't talking shit like really I would talk to a female Right. I was talking shit like about what's going on in my life, like you know, I ain't think like bitches
Speaker 1:gonna be twerking ass. So both movies got it, both movies got it Right, and then you than you doing anymore.
Speaker 2:I would like to. I like acting. It's really cool that one that I had to audition for. I had to audition two different roles for two different characters. The one that I ended up being was Bambi, but I auditioned for another role where it had more lines in it. But I think I read Bambi a little bit better. I think the other one really it kind of reflected my real self. But the director of it was like in acting you're supposed to choose a character that's the opposite of you so that you can tap into a different side that you didn't know that you had. Right, try it out. And she was like now, read the script. So I was like, okay, let me see how this person will talk. So it was basically you know some strippers, you know they always talk about money.
Speaker 2:They talk about like you know what they, how they getting their dollars, regular hoe, shit, right. So I'm like, okay, this ain't me, but all right. So I mean, you know, I love the strip club culture so I could kind of tap into the dancing easily, because that's what my era is, strip club culture, and just to talk it wasn't really hard for real.
Speaker 2:It was just reading it and having to remember those lines for those scenes. But most of my scenes was dances, so you ain't had to do too much. I ain't had to do too much, except for that locker room scene where I had a little couple lines to say what's the name of the movie. You got to shout the movie out, unless you got some issue with it. No, I don't got no issue with it, but I'm trying to think of it. Okay, so you got a naughty Christmas, and then God.
Speaker 1:You better get him on the uh oh my God, what is it?
Speaker 2:You might got to pull it up.
Speaker 1:What's the name? Google the.
Speaker 2:What's that movie? I was in with the dancer that was a stripper.
Speaker 3:Shit.
Speaker 2:Damn Damn niggas be forgetting I'm sorry, look, it's gonna come to me later. It's gonna come random too. We gonna be talking. I'm gonna be like I, it's going to come to me later. It's going to come random too. We're going to be talking. I'm going to be like I got it, but I need you too. Okay, cool, but it was, it was dope. I definitely want to do more Like I seen P-Valley was filming for the summer and I I've been trying to get in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what it was, because we was like Yo, we got to make something like Because you put me on PV, I ain't watch that, I ain't never know nothing about it.
Speaker 2:You stopped watching it when it got real. No, I didn't. Yes, you did. I was watching that joint for a minute Until they started Doing them in the show. Nah, nah, nah nah.
Speaker 1:I just didn't watch that part. Yeah, y'all used to blow me.
Speaker 2:It was like a real-life world debate.
Speaker 1:Nah, but Buddy can really act, though I rock with him. Yes, it takes a lot.
Speaker 2:In the other show, who the one who plays Little Murder?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Little Murder. Yeah, we used to be in there talking about different scenes. Yeah, little Murder man, you know what I mean. He cool, they're acting crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't give a damn what his role is because so many actors that has done them tight rows. He killed that.
Speaker 1:He killed that joint and I think, like the stigma that they always put on, it is like in order for you to be like something great, you got to do something like feminine or you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I've heard that they say but that's only for African-Americans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. But I mean, what's his name? Dressed up as Mrs Doubtfire? What's my man's name? He passed away. But yeah, he dressed up as Mrs Doubtfire.
Speaker 2:Starting over blues. Didn't I say that was going to happen?
Speaker 1:It was going to come to you. That was the name of the movie.
Speaker 3:Yes, Starting over blues Starting over blues.
Speaker 2:I knew it was going to come later. See y'all, I be having some issues.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you got gotta let it, let it reset, pop back in. So we got the music. How's life as a, as a mom?
Speaker 2:Life as a mom Is lifin' yeah, he's so. King is Three and a half, so Toddler stage. He's learning Every day and he talks Better than what you've heard the first time, cause at two, I can only imagine he was saying full sentences. He's learning every day and he talks better than what you've heard the first time because at two he was saying full sentences. So now he talk like me and you and he question everything, he want to know everything and he like a tape recorder he in that stage he a sponge stage?
Speaker 2:yes, and he definitely keep me on my toes because, like there is never no like down time like I could be sleeping, he's choking up everything. But he definitely keep me on my toes because, like there is never no like downtime Like I could be sleeping, he like, mommy, look at this, like you see, this shark, this shark is a megalodon, like you know. Like he keep me up on my toes and he's like, will keep me going every day. So I love my baby. My baby will be four yards a lot.
Speaker 1:He got cancer. Yeah, yeah, get an old cane A little. Yeah, that's my dog.
Speaker 2:He's big now. He said he a big boy. He want a haircut. Yeah, he want a big boy room. He said he want me to redecorate his room for his birthday. So that's on the list.
Speaker 1:Now how your mom, because I know how she was with him, she how she was with him.
Speaker 2:She worse.
Speaker 1:I figured that Right now she done took that boy to Chuck E Cheese.
Speaker 2:After he done had a crazy good old weekend with my dad. They went to the beach swimming in the ocean yesterday and crab hunting.
Speaker 1:You get some crab.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I'm like so she done took him to Chuck E Cheese as soon as she got him. Yeah, and she done bought him a new scooter and some toys.
Speaker 1:Gotta outdo daddy, Gotta outdo granddaddy. I said why is y'all competing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll do a grandpa. Oh my God, yeah, but yeah, she got him right now, spoiling him. Ain't nothing changed, that's what's up?
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, it's Men's Mental Health Month.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, is it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how do you, you know, handle your your uh every day?
Speaker 2:child. I'm still trying to learn how to handle it. Mental health is a really big thing in my life right now. Facts it is because, like over the years, like I've grown really bad anxiety, my stress level up to here, um so like I was doing a lot of things to try to like calm it down. Calm it down. Yeah, like I got into therapy, benson really helps. Like just talking about it is like a stressor To the right person. To the right person.
Speaker 1:Not to everybody.
Speaker 2:You can't get advice from everybody, because some people ain't never experienced the shit that you're experiencing, or some people ain't never experienced the shit that you experiencing, or some people might have experienced it and they got through it. So now they telling you how easy it was or they numb to it now they numb to it so it's like get over it.
Speaker 2:Like we were just talking about that earlier. I was like like my process is different. I take a little longer than other people. Like I hold shit in and then when I finally let it out I'm like I'll Right, like I've been holding it for too long. So like I never knew like how serious stress and anxiety and depression can all go hand in hand. And I learned that this year Like I was having chest pains and stuff and shortness of breath.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And just to find out like those are panic attacks. Those are episodes you're having because your stress level is so high.
Speaker 1:You know what was causing it.
Speaker 2:I had a lot going on in my life. I still do Right now. I'm going through some shit right now, but like I just been, I was doing therapy. I stopped that and then like I'm going through a breakup, so that's something else. And then trying to manage being a mom and then having to get up to go to work every day, manage bills. I got a dream I'm trying to follow. So I got all these thoughts in one, but like the only thing that's been managing that and keeping me kind of calm is if I keep busy.
Speaker 1:Keep going. Yeah, you just keep going.
Speaker 2:I bought myself a promise ring to represent me, keep going, like to remind me, so like when I have bad days.
Speaker 1:I'm like I got to keep going, because people always ask me like yo, tweez, how you keep going through this shit. If you really want it, you'll go for it. Yeah, because it's like my thing is. It's like I was in the Marines. Everybody know I joined straight out of high school 03,. I graduated 04, january. I was in the Marines. Everybody know I joined straight out of high school 03,. I graduated 04, january. I was gone.
Speaker 2:That's a lot.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. In a young age I did, and my homies back then I was trying to get the whole neighborhood to go, Because you know, I'm from the east side of Detroit.
Speaker 1:I was trying to get my homies to go Out the hood and do something, bro, we can go, we can get money, we can travel, and everybody wasn't on that same page and I understand it, I ain't get mad or nothing. But when I left, they all got mad at me, except for a few of them, like you left us behind, yeah. And then I'm like, bro, I came back. I'm like yo, you can still come, even though I joined, you can still join. So a few I was cool. I'm like, hey, at least some of y'all listening, and sure enough, man, it was like that. And then dealing with your family you know what I'm saying, family, you being away from your family, I'm missing all the weddings, I'm missing all the-.
Speaker 2:You feeling alone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm missing all the but, but that's when the family and the Marines came in. You know what I mean and I was like you know what, whatever issues, I got back home I ain't tripping on that.
Speaker 2:You made yourself numb to it.
Speaker 1:I got the homies here, you know what I mean, and we used to get into shit in.
Speaker 2:Cali all the time. Yeah, I buried it.
Speaker 1:That's where trauma come from. Yeah, and then on top of that I came home and I started learning like a lot of this shit. Like my dad used to always tell me, worry about shit. You can't control.
Speaker 2:My mom would tell me that If you can't control it, don't worry about it. And that's what I did. Can't change it, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1:I'm like, look, this is who you are. Even my pops. Like this is who you are. You know what I mean. I can't control it. I ain't trying to control it, but I can't be around it. You know what I mean. Like you gotta fix that on your own. Like, as a man, you gotta come and handle your candle. You know what I mean. You can't just think everything is gonna go your way and then not come back and like you know what I mean. Situations with the music like some of the homies decide to go their own way. That's cool. You know what I mean. But you can't. You can't be. You gotta pick a side with me, dog. Like you know what I'm saying you either rocking with me or you ain't.
Speaker 2:I'd be like that too, and I'd be thinking it's selfish for me to be like that.
Speaker 1:Nah, it's not, because at the end of the day, it's like you going through your own you know what I'm saying issues and like it ain't for everybody else to understand, right.
Speaker 2:Because your process is different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because your process, even like with grief, like you know what I mean. Rest in peace to Benz.
Speaker 3:Like Benz passed away I a couple weeks ago was he an artist or like one of your close friends?
Speaker 1:yeah, he was an artist like yeah, yeah, and like you know what.
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm VA and he was like the truth, like he was like Rick Ross for real, like he was. He was that. How did he pass? I don't know. You know what I mean. To this day, like I just reach out to O, and you know what I mean Every other day I try to like just tap in with him, because he, him, oh, and Benz was on my episodes, like On your shows, on the podcast, yeah, I just was watching some of them yesterday.
Speaker 1:I wonder if I looked that up, benz was on the fifth episode and like the way I grieve is different, you know what I mean. Like a lot of times, like I be goes and like he hits you random.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and me and him had that conversation because when my cousin passed, it was the same thing, like you know what I mean he reached out to me, and when his brother passed, I did the same. So it was like when you dealing with all of this stuff and then you seeing, you know what I mean, yeah, your day. Twos, the what day you met him?
Speaker 1:Yeah you see your day ones and your day twos like you know what I'm saying, doing the same thing, like all right, cool. Like I ain't tripping off that because, at the end of the day, like I'm still moving, I'm going to keep going.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying Keep going is definitely.
Speaker 1:I know like what'd I do? Like you know what I mean, I'm like I ain't even doing nothing. So, but you know, I said, man, this my sis, like I'm not about to.
Speaker 2:We definitely had that relationship.
Speaker 1:I'm like yo, I'm reaching out.
Speaker 2:We was like this and I was actually surprised that you reached out and I'm like honestly, now that it's been years two years I'm like it really wasn't tweezy, yeah, and I'm like yo what's going on, I think. I was just mad at what happened, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I was like yeah, you just threw everybody in a bunch. Yeah, I was like they all work with them. And I was like you know what I ain't about to the relationship that I had with everybody. You stuck to that.
Speaker 2:That, the relationship that.
Speaker 1:I had with everybody. You stuck to that. That's what I have. I stuck to them. You know what I mean. And I was like I seen I'm like damn Taz don't even follow me. I said this is weird. Like you know what I mean. I said hold on. I hit you in the DM like hey. It wasn't even on like yo. Why the fuck you stop following me? It was like I'm looking through the gram. I just know. Why are you just?
Speaker 2:now seeing this. Why are you unfollowing?
Speaker 1:me, because you know what I mean, I be thinking, because I be thinking about all the artists that I you know what I mean? Oh, that you know that, I know that I got a relationship with, and I always try to tap in just to check in on people Like what you got going on?
Speaker 3:Yeah, just to check in.
Speaker 2:I'm like she don. What did I do for you to unfollow me and you just like bust out laughing or whatever? Oh my God. But yeah, I think. Yeah, I definitely added you in the mix.
Speaker 1:And I understand. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Because your relationship there was before mine. So automatically I'm like you know, I know that the bros before hoes type thing, Even though we like bros, yeah, I just still felt like that. So I was just like I was in my own head, yeah and um, I mean, when you reached out I was like okay, it's not Tweezy, it's not everybody that is associated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just trying to figure out what was going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't know and actually, um, I think what made you, what brought me up in your um attention, was when Eddie got his plaque, yeah, and you reposted it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what made you hit me right after.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you was a part of that. You know what I'm saying. Like my whole thing is I don't care what's going on. Yeah, If I'm not informed on what's going on, Then you got nothing to do with it. You ain't got nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2:I ain't got nothing to do with it. You know what I'm saying. But I really wasn't looking at it like that, but I was like shit, she was a part of this song.
Speaker 1:Why not? Like you know what I mean. So I'm like of course, that's one thing about me Like I'm going to keep it, you out, Because, at the end of the day, like you were the only person and that's actually what caught my attention because I kept.
Speaker 2:I was at home doing something and my phone started going off and I'm like hell like who texted me. There was no text. So I checked Instagram and then I'm saying I'm, I see, you know, eddie, and everybody popping bottles and they dancing to the song, and I'm like, oh, what they say. And they say you got a million streams and I'm like oh shit. I'm like wait, that's the track that. I'm on Right. But then, like when I zoomed into the plaque, I said wait a minute, my name not on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's why I was just like they took my name off the plaque. And to you said it, I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 2:And then when I seen my name was taken off the plaque I was I said that would make sense why I wasn't tagged. When they was doing shout outs and tags to everybody who was a part of that project and I'm like, okay, but when you reposted and you was like and shout out to Taz, cause you was a big part of that, that was like that made me say he ain't had nothing to do with it?
Speaker 2:yeah, cause I, I didn't even know, I didn't even know you didn't know I didn't, Honestly after that conversation with him, I didn't know how big it was. I mean for me. I took it as disrespect and I was like, sadly, we gotta part ways. I didn't want to, but at the same time you didn't respect me when you did that and then, to make it worse, take me off a plaque.
Speaker 1:I'm like okay, yeah, because I was like yo, we beef beefing and it's been years, yeah, and I'm like I ain't understand that, but like you know what I'm saying, I was just like nah.
Speaker 2:But when you tagged me that made because when I first seen it I was like damn niggas ain't, I don't see a mention to my page. I started looking for it.
Speaker 1:I asked where you was at. You know, what I'm saying. You been to the crib, so I'm like but you ain't know how deep it was.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. I didn't know, you just knew niggas fell out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and I was like okay, cool, but I'm still going to put like you know what I'm saying, like it don't matter, like what song blew up my mind.
Speaker 2:And you know the crazy shit, even though they took me off the plaque when you reposted it, then Eddie posted it and was like, yeah, man, shout out to Tej, you really did your thing yeah. And I was just like you. Even though I felt a way For seeing that and then not being mentioned, I still reposted it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just to show like I fuck with Eddie and I fuck with the song, regardless what happened Behind the scenes Right After the fact, because it had nothing to do With the track or when we put it together when we was doing it.
Speaker 1:We was all in the basement when we was all in the basement Doing it. I've been doing it.
Speaker 2:Everything was good and gold then, so I'm not going to take it out on Eddie. I'm happy that he got a million streams, because that's a really big goal for an artist to even hit a million streams in the industry, especially you just coming up. So he was really pushing. I seen it like as soon as the track came out for a year he was pushing that track really hard, like back to back.
Speaker 2:He had content for it, he was doing a lot for it, so I was like I'ma still support, regardless. He took my name off of it. Do I feel a way Hell? Yeah, I feel a way, cause, nigga, I went and wrote them bars. I came and laid them tracks down and helped you make that track. So don't forget who the fuck is on it.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, that's why. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And I respect you and. I thank you for that Cause I definitely. I looked at them. I was like Damn, like shit Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause I ain't know.
Speaker 3:I ain't know, you Would take me off, but you could at least Still be like I don't fuck with her Cause of this.
Speaker 2:She ain't trying, you know, but at least Respect the name, like.
Speaker 3:She was a part of that.
Speaker 2:Make another Taz. It's only me who's on that track. It don't matter who you work with, it's not going to be another Taz. That was on Pop it. You can get a remix, remix, remix, right, that's it.
Speaker 1:I was like shit. You know what I mean when you said that. I was like damn you know what I mean On there, took me the fuck off the plaque. Listen, go listen to my new track, real bitch. So I was like alright, let me, let me post, let me you know what I'm saying, cause I mean whatever, whatever was going, I put up. You know what I mean? Yeah, like he put up half, I put up.
Speaker 2:But you ain't know that that was gonna happen yeah, he was just participating in what needed to be done. Because, yeah, because it was.
Speaker 1:it was, it was him. You know what I'm saying and I'm like all right, cool, but um.
Speaker 3:The intentions behind it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, after you I'm like damn why the fuck? And when you told me you was like I just had to X everybody out, I said hey.
Speaker 2:I ain't mad at you and you was like. Well, that had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like that ain't got nothing to do with me and that's my thing. Like I think a lot of people just don't understand, like if you really loyal and you rocking with somebody, that's your homie, like you gonna have, you gonna have issues.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You gonna go through stuff.
Speaker 1:You gonna go through stuff with your people when it gets to the point where it's like nah, this ain't, this ain't no issue, this is like a problem.
Speaker 2:For me it was like a slap in the face. Right Because like you said, like I've been to the house, I've been in the basement.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Like I've been around family. I started feeling like family at one point because I was, they was planning parties for me at day shit, so like just to have people listen to my music, like so to have that type of situation happen.
Speaker 1:I was just like yeah, damn, and that's the thing too, like I think people, people put in the wrong energy into something and then they, they, they, they, they try to make it like it's their life.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And I don't like because it's like you an artist, I'm a producer, engineer, whatever. But I think sometimes people don't understand that we're different and we move different, like we was talking about process, that we're different, mm-hmm, and we move different. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Like we was talking about process. Everybody processes different.
Speaker 1:We process different. Yeah, so when we process like a slap in the face or whatever, we go and ask like, hey, am I tripping? I do do that. You know what I'm saying. Am I tripping, or is it Just?
Speaker 2:to clarify like maybe I'm just in my head Because a lot of times I am yeah, because sometimes you got to. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:If I feel a way, yeah, and I always used to tell them dots, don't overthink shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And I learned that from my man, the producer. He had a whole little room that said dots, don't overthink shit. So I never would overthink the shit. I'm a Virgo, for one. I read rooms. I do too, and I read Fuck shit, yeah. So if I'm reading Fuck shit, then I'm like that's what it is. A one plus one equals two baby, that's what it is, can't change it.
Speaker 2:I'm good at math, the math is mathing.
Speaker 1:So I'm, you know what I mean. I tell people all the time I'm good, I never jumped out of a plane, but I know how to pop that parachute, you know what I mean I'm out.
Speaker 3:And you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it happens, but like if I ain't spoke to you in over, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:If I ain't spoke to you in some years and I don't know you. You don't know me and I don't know you because you everybody's complete different.
Speaker 1:Motherfuckers. I told you it's four seasons, it's four quarters in a year. So if you People have, I ain't heard from you in quarters and you know what I mean. Half.
Speaker 2:Yes, damn, near a year, it's season. I'm learning that this year too.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Like I just it's a Like what you want me to do, cause I'm still. I got two girls.
Speaker 2:You know yeah.
Speaker 1:Shit, I just Did you. Yeah, the Little League.
Speaker 3:We're going to Connecticut. Oh, congrats.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like Laina doing her thing. Then 2D10U, you know what I mean they won yesterday. I'm coaching.
Speaker 2:Oh, for real. Yeah, I'm supposed to sign up to be King's coach because he about to be doing basketball y'all Listen if you want to play baseball tell him to come was I-9 Sports or something like that. Yeah, that's one, but everything that they listed was flag football, baseball, soccer and basketball.
Speaker 1:He said he wanted to do basketball, so I was like all right, Get my boy ready.
Speaker 2:But they asked, if you do, you want to be a coach or like an assistant coach? And I was like I don't want to be that into it, or do I want to just be the side and be like go, baby, go.
Speaker 1:So I play baseball, but it's. The similarities are there for softball, but they don't pitch overhand, they pitch underhand and it's fast pitch. So it ain't like a little pitch that goes up, this shit coming 50, 60 miles per hour.
Speaker 2:He really have to be one, he really have to want to do it, to learn.
Speaker 1:I think he can learn with basketball. I'm trying to be the best dad ever you know what I mean for my kids and still support whatever they want to do, so like when stuff like that come.
Speaker 2:listen, man, I ain't worried about it, you got bigger shit to worry about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got way more shit to worry about.
Speaker 2:That's all I can do. Like when you said Like, if you can't change it, then Don't let it bother you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why I don't be tripping, I just I see it.
Speaker 2:And you gotta know what it is. Yeah, it is what it is. Yeah, you can't change it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So and I ask my bro, I ask Kadeem, I say, bro, am I tripping? He like He'd tell me the I've been knowing him since boot camp. I like people like that, you know what I mean. I need him for that, like if I got some.
Speaker 2:If I got like, if I don't know who I can talk to about certain things, I gotta go to him and be like am I tripping? Let me tell you what happened. I don't want you to think of it based off, you know, like who I am to you, like my real opinion boom.
Speaker 1:I respect that you need that he's like y'all need to have a talk, we have a talk, and that shit still ain't it. I'm like, look bro sometimes it's not.
Speaker 2:There's no room for talking for certain people I wouldn't say for everybody, but sometimes some stuff isn't meant to be fixed and that's, and that's how I look at it, that's how people move, they showing you who they really are and their intentions originally. So why would you try to go back to fix those?
Speaker 3:and change it. You can't change it.
Speaker 1:Right, leave it alone, leave it where it's at, because I mean shit, there's still two numbers in a day that hit the same time. Sometimes the numbers ain't on the same line. You know, what I mean. So I just keep moving, man. You know what I mean, that's all I can do moving man.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, and it ain't.
Speaker 1:no, for me it ain't no beef or nothing, it ain't.
Speaker 2:I'm not even. I don't even do that, so it's like Beef is me being at your front door?
Speaker 1:Right and we all got each other locations. So that's why I say it's not a beef. You know, what I'm saying, it's just hey and respect it.
Speaker 2:You grow apart and you have to accept that we wasn't meant to be in each other's lives for this amount of time. So moving forward, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:But Because, guess what? At the end of every scene there's what?
Speaker 2:It's another, one, another start Another chapter, another act, another sequel or whatever.
Speaker 1:So I just keep it going, man, like for one man. I'd be 39 this year.
Speaker 3:For real.
Speaker 1:I ain't got time.
Speaker 2:I'm going to cry when I hit 30. Yeah, oh, real bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to be 39, man, I ain't got time, no, you just at 39,.
Speaker 2:Life should be easy. Great it should.
Speaker 1:I ain't even going to lie to you, sunshine of flowers, it's not going to be as perfect, but your world should be perfect for you, it's been my best year so far. That's good.
Speaker 2:It's been my best year I've been trying to make it mine but I keep running into shit and I'm like I can't never catch a break.
Speaker 1:But I'm still pushing, though you got to get off on that. Exit, yeah, or 295, you gotta get off on that exit.
Speaker 2:I just like I'm, like shit never gives, but like what I've been doing is I've been, even though my life haven't been perfect, I've been finding things to make it like do what. I wanna do, like, do what I love, do what I feel, do what I think, like trying to make it work for me. So I just, and it will, it definitely will. It's some you know some bumps in the road on the way. Alright, cool.
Speaker 1:What uh you been working on music? What song your new single? Real Bitch when you dropped it.
Speaker 2:I dropped it this past Friday.
Speaker 1:I know I'm just I want you to tell the people like tell the people when you dropped it like.
Speaker 2:I know, I know when you dropped it, like I know when you dropped it, yeah.
Speaker 1:I know when you dropped it, but I want you to tell the people what you talking about.
Speaker 2:I dropped my new track Real Bitch this past Friday. It's on all platforms Apple Music, youtube, spotify not on SoundCloud. Everybody always be asking it's on SoundCloud, no, but I mean, it ain't nothing wrong with taking it back, though to when you first started, as long as people hear your music. As long as you hear it. You know my fan base have been building. I performed it for the first time last night at that cosplay event and they loved it.
Speaker 1:I was like okay did you wear like a uniform or a little costume?
Speaker 2:yeah, so we is Sailor Moon, but we was different ones, okay, and I'm not. I'm honestly. That was my second. It was multiple ones wasn't it yeah so that's why we had different colors. I had on an orange skirt, one of the dancers had on a blue, another one had on a green, and we all had different colored bow ties on.
Speaker 1:It was really cute. That's dope, that's dope. Okay, it was fire. So what else you got? That's coming up.
Speaker 2:Um, right now I'm working on a couple projects. I'm just trying to like keep going, like you know, just book with you to do your um podcast, and then now I'm just trying to see in the studio Got sessions coming up. I've been writing, I got some hard shit, but I don't know which one I want to go record first.
Speaker 2:I'm like how am I feeling? And so every time I feel like I got a new idea in my mind, I'm writing something new. So I don't be knowing like which one I want to go record, because when I record it that mean I'm working on tracks. Right now I got a photo shoot Schedule, you know. So I just want to have New content for real For the summer. I want to drop, I really just want to Drop all fire shit, and my goal for the summer Is just to be booked and busy and be traveling.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I want to keep Opening for bigger and bigger and bigger, bigger and bigger and bigger venues and bigger artists. You are good Until they're like we're opening for Taz.
Speaker 1:Yeah, until they open it for you.
Speaker 2:I want, by the time it's 2025, it'd be my year, and they'd be like we want to give you this million dollar deal. Like I would sign a deal, but it would have to be the right deal.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:But that's the goal, that's the plan, that's the goal.
Speaker 1:You're going to get there. You're working, I'm working. I'm not playing.
Speaker 2:You're working, I promised myself this year and my song I was talking about I promised. I think it was Set it Off. I was like I got to make this shit happen because my son, you know, he want me to get a house and he got goals for me and I got goals for him and I'm like I'm going to make this year that year.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:I can see it happening. I was told by somebody that they couldn't help me get to it because it would take a long time to get to it, get my numbers up to get a fan base, and I'm like, nah, when they told me that that motivated me to go a little harder, I was like, okay, At least they were honest, because they probably didn't know. Let me tell you anything is possible on social media overnight.
Speaker 1:And you not being funny, women control everything it does. You have a notch higher than a guy to get to where you're trying to go, because when you got the look, you got the bars, you got the beats. All you need is just to put the content out. That's all you need.
Speaker 2:That's all you need and, like you know, it takes a lot to put that content together, those ideas it does. You got to put the right ideas out. You can't just put anything out because people they will just put out anything and be like I'm an artist but like I'm trying to do it right. But use your sources, yeah that's what I've been doing.
Speaker 1:There's an old girl cosplay. She got a following. She do. She got a crazy following my girl posts.
Speaker 2:I was talking with her yesterday. I was showing my dancers her page on Instagram and they was like yo, she always had. Oh, I got a photo shoot this weekend. Oh, I got a convention I'm going to. I got a booth over there, like she's always booked and busy. So she definitely. Consistency is a thing I know. Content is going to be a really big thing for me this summer because that's going to really build my brand, because I'm the brand yeah.
Speaker 2:So I got a lot of things Like I was telling you, like I need a new whiteboard. I just be putting all my ideas out like what I want to do, and then, once I tackle them, I just take them down next and keep adding.
Speaker 3:Yep, you got to so whatever is to come.
Speaker 2:that's what's next? I don't even know. I'm just building my blueprint as I go for real.
Speaker 1:All right, Before we get out of here. Top five Uh-uh. Top five artists your top five.
Speaker 3:Huh.
Speaker 2:My top five, my number one Mm-hmm Big X to plug he hard.
Speaker 1:Hey, shout out to Big X. He hard His producer. Man, they like, perfect, they perfect.
Speaker 2:When I tell you I'm on that man's ass, I want a feature, put me on it. Let's go bar for bar. That's how I'm feeling. When I was in Houston, we were supposed to go to this club, but it was a whole bunch of bullshit. Just to get in with the people we was with. I forgot that artist we was with. We was about to get in with him, but then they started charging us some fees. We were like what the fuck? So? But come find out, big X was in there right next to their section, and I done went home. I was tired too. I'm like Houston had me out to like oh yeah, Just be prepared.
Speaker 1:Was it Houston or was it Austin?
Speaker 2:Austin. Was it Houston or was it Austin?
Speaker 1:Austin oh, you went to South by Southwest.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's where I performed at for Big Cuzz's first event. Yeah, yes yes, sorry, so it was in Austin for South by.
Speaker 1:Southwest, right down the street.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Big Cuzz was in that club in that section and I was like that could have been my fucking moment. And then the next day he went to was that Rolling Loud to perform. I'm like he ain't coming back, Like I miss him, but I'm like the next fucking time.
Speaker 1:But you got big cuz, I got big cuz right.
Speaker 2:So I'm like let me know If it's an event like, keep me up to date. I want to know, like, when you got open slots, when can I hop in there? Like I need to be in that room so because Always and Forever Love Doll Rest in Peace. I love Moneybag. I like listening to Meg because she hard, and number five who am I going to give it to? Who have I been listening to Number five? He's not hip hop really. He's like I wouldn't even say he like R&B either. Major Nine.
Speaker 1:Major Nine yeah.
Speaker 2:He sing, he sing rap Top five.
Speaker 1:I ain't say rap, I ain't say hip hop, I ain't say R&B, but yeah.
Speaker 2:Always Major Nine. Okay, don't matter what mood I'm in, so Big H.
Speaker 1:Dolph Moneybag, meg Major Nine, major Nine, major Nine. I was waiting. I wanted to know If he was gonna put a female in there or if he was gonna do All five females. No, but that.
Speaker 2:I like the girls that's out right now, but my favorite Is gonna be Meg. Yeah, she, meg Bars Is fire yeah. I don't give a fuck what. Nobody say. All that other shit she got going on Her bars are fire. Talent is there.
Speaker 1:And her producer.
Speaker 2:Yes, juke.
Speaker 1:Juke on the beat, little Juke on the beat. Yeah, yeah, he be going hard, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:He be making the right stuff for her. And they be working with Juicy J yeah. That's what I be wanting to send Like, send me shit like that.
Speaker 1:I want a Juicy J type beat, because I think that's what it be too, man, because when you get in there and the producer community and like everybody showing love, that's why I always love going to like the producer events, because it's always.
Speaker 2:I haven't been to one of those yet. You got to go.
Speaker 1:That's a good network. Shout out to Letter L and Tasia.
Speaker 2:You gotta send it to me.
Speaker 1:Man when I went to OutKast studio me and Esquire went.
Speaker 2:Man stank on it.
Speaker 1:Because he was at the studio with us. Esquire Es with the glasses boy head. He's the other producer. Yeah, you know him, but he like he just popped in and he like every now and then, yeah, cause he was, he still in the Navy, so he'd be in, he'd be out, like right now he out on a ship, shout out to my bro but um, yeah, but uh, man that writing camp there fire.
Speaker 1:I remember we used to talk about writing camp yeah, cause that's where you really go build relationships with producers, artists, relationships with producers, artists, whoever, because that's where they're at and like being in Stankonia and see their process.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you see their process.
Speaker 1:They see your process. Then they got footage of what you're doing and you're all building to get on some sync placements. Remember, I was always big on syncs Like I'd do syncs any day you were Because that's what's going to get you on TV. That's what I want to do.
Speaker 2:People start asking, even if I can't get a scene like a role on it. I want my music on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, remember like with the Insecure, like all of that stuff they had going on.
Speaker 2:I love that. Issa Rae's sound her playlist for them episodes. That was fire. Yeah, they had regular people music on there. That's what.
Speaker 1:I love. Once you get on there, you locked in people start rocking with your music. That's how you can build your fan base that way too. Versus you know outside of the shows. But yeah, getting into those areas. Have you been to the Midwest? You gotta go.
Speaker 2:You been up top, you been up to New York, philly, but doing music though we just was number four Talking about New York, so maybe it's meant for me to go back to New York now. Yeah you got to get there, but I haven't done anything musically in New York.
Speaker 1:Yeah, get to every region, because even I'm going to tell you right now, the West Coast is going to rock with you too. Yeah, yeah, especially LA, san Diego.
Speaker 2:Didn't I just list this? Yesterday I said New York LA Miami, because Miami got strip clubs yeah.
Speaker 1:Miami.
Speaker 2:I really want to tap into.
Speaker 1:Miami, but that's what I'm saying. So get to those other regions. So not only do you have Texas, because Texas is its own, like a Texas artist can blow up in Texas and in Texas alone, because that's how many people was in there. Same thing with Cali. That's why Cali really rocking with K-Dawg. Oh yeah, she was there too Well, yeah her, but I'm talking about Kylie the state.
Speaker 2:Oh, Kylie, Okay, okay, okay yeah.
Speaker 1:California because, like, you can be in California and blow up in California and that's why California artists really rock, I feel like that's the hardest.
Speaker 2:It's not.
Speaker 1:New York.
Speaker 2:I feel like Cali is where they go and they Like lost dreams, uh uh.
Speaker 1:Nah, think about it.
Speaker 2:Or like you might, if you make it to Cali.
Speaker 1:Then you made it. Think about it, you just had we just had One of the biggest Beefs or Battles With the whole industry.
Speaker 2:Oh, you talking about.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Drake and Kendrick. Oh yeah, and what Kendrick doing? He brung all 40 gangs with that motherfucker. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like he bringing the Bloods, the Crips, the Hoovers, all of them together Like, and they don't even rock, because you know, I used to be stationed over there.
Speaker 3:So I know like.
Speaker 1:I know like it's like certain hats you couldn't wear, like unless you knew somebody.
Speaker 2:I feel like to of respect, though in Cali to actually be considering making it in Cali.
Speaker 1:But that's what I'm saying. You see how, like, just that alone was big. Yeah, because Cali, that's LA, just one section. You know what I'm saying? Like you got San Diego, you got the Bay Oakland, san Francisco.
Speaker 2:Sacramento. He did, I watched it.
Speaker 1:He lists saying like so la, la, la is huge, but for him to get all of them to come together.
Speaker 2:That says a lot.
Speaker 1:Says a lot you know, I'm saying that's what he was trying to do. See what I'm saying. And now, like that's what I said, you get over there and you just build relationships. You build relationships everywhere you go. Granted, everybody might not rock with your music, but I want to kind of get into Memphis. Yeah, that's what I'm saying Get to Memphis, get to Memphis, get to. They'll definitely love you in Memphis. I feel like it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I don't know what it is, but Memphis got me feeling like or New Orleans.
Speaker 1:Because, think about it, I always tell people, memphis, memphis, that 3-6 Mafia style music is just it's going to continue.
Speaker 2:I love that type of sound.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, and then the fact that they like mixing it with Detroit style beats. That's why Bagg sold like he's going crazy. But if you notice like think about all the cliques of music people that's together and think about who they got. They got somebody from Memphis, they got somebody from Detroit, they got somebody from Detroit, Somebody from Atlanta, and then they rock with Miami, they rock with people from Texas.
Speaker 2:You might got you one or two from Chicago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you got. You know what I'm saying. You got Dirk in them. So it's like, whoever you work with, like when you build those relationships and just keep going, like tell you it's going to pop, it's definitely going to pop.
Speaker 2:I'm in my process right now. I'm just keeping going. I'm not slowing down the emotion I got myself into right now. I'm like I don't see myself slowing down. It's going to the right path that I wanted it to go. It's just I don't know when it's going to happen, so I can't. I got to think about like when it's happening but not when it's going to happen, type thing, like if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:So All right, all right, so before we get out of here, I always do gym class.
Speaker 2:What's gym class?
Speaker 1:Gym class is G-E-M, so you got to drop a gym for the female artists out there, the male artists out there, something that you keep in your toolbox that you can give to them to put in their toolbox. Any gym you think of you can drop for them.
Speaker 2:Don't ever let anybody tell you what you're not capable of and whatever you think you can do, stick to it. Don't change the plan. Stick to the plan. That's the only way to make it to where you're trying to go if you stick to what you envisioned. Like it's okay to have other people's input, you know. But like, if this is your vision, your baby, you got to take care of this, and such Like, go stick to get in your head is you versus you?
Speaker 1:And that's how it's always going to be. Yeah, once you make it, you versus them. Yeah, that's when you go on that little crash course.
Speaker 2:You can't let everybody can't let it. For you, you can't let it for them Right. Do you, because when you go in that box Then you can't get out because you in they shit. Don't limit yourself. That's another one. Yeah, don't limit yourself. Stick to the plan, if you feel like you want to do some big shit. Do some big shit. There's nothing too big Facts, so yeah All right sis. Taz, it's your girl, taz yeah. Follow me on social media. Y'all you love Taz.
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Speaker 2:You know you know me, big Brother, tweeze you know what it is. Tweeze that shoe we got a link too after here we got a link too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2:I don't drink like that, but we can. We can still go out, yeah, yeah yeah, for sure, like that we gone.