Tesla Talks with Tianna

Behind The Wheel with Matt | From Modeling to Acting

Tianna Season 1 Episode 5

Ever wondered about the journey behind the lens that leads an actor to success? We bring you an exclusive chat with Matt, a high-achieving actor and model based out of Salt Lake City and Los Angeles. We unpack his fascinating transition from a medical school acceptee to an established name in the entertainment industry, and explore his hidden culinary talent and love for dance. We even share a fan moment over the Backstreet Boys and hear about Matt's amusing first concert experience in the US.

As we delve deeper into his career, Matt reveals the highs and lows of the industry. He takes us back to his first impromptu photo shoot that sparked his modeling career and explains how he scored a role in a Netflix show. But it's not all glamor and fame; Matt emphasizes the grit, determination, and gratitude required to carve a niche in this cut-throat business. His upbeat energy and relentless pursuit of growth are truly inspiring and speak volumes about his success.

As we wrap up, Matt reflects on the invaluable life lessons his career has provided. He shares his passion for storytelling and his aspiration to leave an indelible mark through his work. He also gives us a sneak peek into his upcoming projects and goals. To check out his fantastic portfolio, head over to his website or Instagram handle, shared at the end of our conversation. Don't miss this heartwarming episode filled with insightful discussions, laughter, and lots of inspiration.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Tesla Talks. I'm your host, tiana, let me tell you took. Each night I'll be interviewing high achievers, influential leaders and those with powerful stories. Tune in, buckle up where bots go zero to 100 real quick. Today we have an amazing guest. He is one of my best friends and I am so honored for him to be on the show today. Matt, welcome around the show.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1:

Thanks for coming on the road trip with me. I am so excited.

Speaker 2:

I love road trips. They're like the best thing.

Speaker 1:

And it's hard to get you out of your busy schedule, so I'm glad I can steal you for a little journey.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, me too. I'm glad we were able to fit it in and make it work.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh. Well Matt, oh my gosh. Where do I even start with Matt? Matt is just the best human ever, that's a lie.

Speaker 2:

I paid her to say that.

Speaker 1:

No, no, he didn't. No, but seriously, it's just crazy to list everything that is notable about you. You are just so many things. Where do I even start, matt? What would you like to share about yourself, since you're so humble?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's see, I am a full-time actor and a full-time model. I'm based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and Los Angeles, California. I kind of split my time between both of the places For work. I never planned on doing this as a career. This was never what I was planning on doing with my life.

Speaker 1:

It's literally your mission. It's literally your born to do. It is, yeah, so.

Speaker 2:

I was initially in the medical field. I got my degree in biology, got accepted to medical school, was going to go to medical school.

Speaker 1:

Amazing.

Speaker 2:

And totally pivoted. And, yeah, I'm now an artist and I love everything that I do.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I love everything you do. So I just think that, literally, it's so interesting to see how your journey has shifted from something that is honestly so amazing You've got I mean, the medical field in any sense is a lot of work, it's a lot to put into a lot of studying, which is already super commendable for attempting a career and preparing and pursuing that is so amazing. And so I just think that it's incredible that you've had you have so much talent and potential and just already a huge resume of just so many talents and skills. No, genuinely, and from being a chef, he's an incredible chef, you guys and I'm just going to gush a little bit, amazing chef. You spent time in Japan, so we had that one hosted night where we came to your house and made kyoza.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, we did and it was so good.

Speaker 1:

It was even like oh yeah, he's an actor. He's probably mediocre at something.

Speaker 2:

No, no, trust me, I'm mediocre at a lot of things.

Speaker 1:

No, no, just not very many that we know about.

Speaker 2:

I try to keep those under wraps.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe you just don't double loop your laces on your shoes, but you caught me.

Speaker 2:

I don't actually.

Speaker 1:

We made sure that you were relatable in some sense. You're an amazing chef, you're a dance instructor.

Speaker 2:

Yes, used to be Not as much anymore, just because I've just gotten so busy, but I did teach bachata.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my gosh For about a year and a half.

Speaker 2:

I love dancing so much.

Speaker 1:

Melting all these hearts with the dance moves. Oh my gosh. Yeah, and you'll see in the after clips, Matt and I had this little karaoke session. So he has an amazing voice.

Speaker 2:

You want to know a quick, fun little tidbit about that Backstreet Boys was the very first concert I've ever been to?

Speaker 1:

No, it wasn't.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, not only was it my first one, but it was also my first concert ever in the United States. One of my parents and I immigrated to the US Backstreet Boys. I went to Backstreet Boys.

Speaker 1:

You started off. Good, where was?

Speaker 2:

my mom. It was great, it was great.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, Well, I cried at the Backstreet Boys.

Speaker 2:

I wanted that way.

Speaker 1:

That's my jam. It's a great song. Millennial. If you didn't know Millennial right here, that's amazing. That was the best intro to your American experience. I'm still glad that was how we started off, dang, and then we also have to say that you have seen that everywhere you just didn't know it.

Speaker 2:

Have you ever?

Speaker 1:

heard of Netflix? I'm sorry, have you ever heard of, maybe, chase Bank? There's a small entertainment business called Netflix. Ever heard of it? Yeah, anytime I'm traveling, I just feel like I'm traveling with Matt, because you know those little videos that come up on your screen before you do your little send off, like you'll just see all these like random ones that are usually really boring, and then you see your best friend and you're like, oh my gosh, he's on the plane with me, he's experiencing less turbulence, but yeah, it's a little bit less turbulence, does that?

Speaker 1:

mean I get to have an extra like snack or two, just on your behalf.

Speaker 2:

My best friend is here too. He wants a Diet Coke.

Speaker 1:

Oh gosh, matt, there's just so many things and I just have. I reach so much as a person. So thank you so much for being on the podcast and I want people to know you, like I do, and I feel like you're everywhere. You're going amazing places, you're already, you know, doing incredible things, and I do have some different questions for you. I want our, I want our guests to kind of understand your journey, and I find it so personally. I personally find it so fascinating just watching you just level up all the time and seeing you in different chapters of your life. It just keeps getting better and better.

Speaker 1:

Oh, thanks to you, of course, and so tell us a little bit about your beginnings as an actor, as you know, in the film world and modeling, kind of what got you started and what made you kind of spark interest in that area.

Speaker 2:

Sure, um. So I again. I never planned on doing this. I was not a theater kid. I hated getting my picture taken.

Speaker 1:

Like it just wasn't.

Speaker 2:

This is like the least likely thing that I think I would ever do. Uh, I while I was at school. I was at school in Florida, and then I came to Utah for my senior year of college Florida boy, you guys. Florida boy. Um. And when I came here for senior year of college, a lot of people in my town just were like photographers. And so they'd be like Matt, let's do a photo shoot.

Speaker 1:

And so I'd be like okay, sure, whatever, I guess I just I'll be. I mean, I am very attractive, but whatever, I guess let's just take pictures.

Speaker 2:

Um, so I did it. It was a lot of fun, didn't think anything of it. I graduated college, got a job at the Huntsman Cancer Hospital doing cancer research for stage one and stage four cancer patients.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

While I was working there, also applying to medical school, and while I was there, a buddy of mine reached out to me and was like hey, matt, we need a brown guy for a commercial, a handsome brown man for a commercial up north. Do you want to do it and I was like sure, and he's like it's $500 for four hours and I was like okay, he signed me up.

Speaker 2:

He signed me up so I went. It was a blast. And after that I was like you know what, maybe I want to take this more seriously, make it like a side hustle, you know, just get some extra money on the side.

Speaker 2:

Maybe I do like this, maybe it is kind of fun, and then I called, called my agency and they told me to come in the next day for an interview. I went in, did my posing or whatever, and then my agent my now agent looked at me and she's like okay, here are three scripts I want you to like take 10 minutes and then read them to me. And I was like oh no, no, no, I'm like not an agent.

Speaker 1:

This isn't real. This isn't. I'm just, I'm not. This is not.

Speaker 2:

I was like I dated a theater girl, like that's like the extent of like my like acting, and then she was like no, just try it. And so she left the room. I Google how to read a script because I have no idea what I'm doing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And she comes back, I read the scripts and she's like, well, you need a lot of work. And I was like, yeah, well, I didn't, I was never planning on doing this, so this is a commitment here, yeah, but she said that I had talent and that she wanted to sign me as an actor and as a model. Three months after that, I quit my job, three months to do this full time.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Four months after that, I got accepted to medical school and decided not to go. So yeah, now fast forward two years. That was in 2020, 2021. So fast forward two years later. This is now my full time career. I do a lot of commercial modeling, a lot of commercial acting, did my first big budget Hollywood film this summer, that is so exciting, Do you know? Do you know, Pretty Little Liars.

Speaker 1:

Let me think about it. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I was a supporting character in a movie with Sasha Pietrus, who was the lead in Pretty.

Speaker 1:

Little Liars Shut up right now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I know the supporting character nothing huge, but no great opportunity. Just some awesome actors and an awesome production company up in Park City. And then I've done a few other films this summer too.

Speaker 1:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, so it's a wild ride.

Speaker 1:

Holy cow, oh my gosh, that okay. Just listening to your story, I'm just thinking like sometimes it takes years for people to take the leap where they're feeling like, okay, maybe I'll quit my job. When I'm making this much money, when I can comfortably put two feet in instead of one foot into something, when it's actually something they know they love, they still put it off three months, matt.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was very risky.

Speaker 1:

No, but I feel like you were diving straight into something that you love and you knew that you loved. Right then you didn't waste any time and I love the part where you said that you're now agent, just so that, like you're really good at this and like how did that?

Speaker 1:

feel? Did it feel like rewarding? Did it feel like a prominent moment where you felt like I can do this, Like I'm good at this, Because before you went from, oh yeah, I'll just do this little shoe and I don't feel like I'm a model or anything, and you're kind of thinking this isn't my identity, this is not really what I do. To like, oh, I got signed and they like it and I did a good job and like, tell us like how you felt in that moment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, when my agent signed me, I was kind of blown back. I mean, they're one of the biggest agents and best agents in the city of Utah and so I felt very honored to be part of, you know, one of the best agencies and I felt very under qualified. You know imposter syndrome hits really quickly.

Speaker 2:

But at the same time it felt great to be like, oh, you're good at this. And the acting side she was like well, you need a lot of work. And I was like I wasn't planning on doing this, but to have her be like, I know, I believe in you and I think you have talent. It was like wow, okay, maybe, maybe, if this person, who's been in the industry for so long, thinks that I have a little talent, maybe it's true and so.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, I'm just so inspired by that.

Speaker 1:

I feel like we just don't know like for the plot.

Speaker 1:

You know, sometimes we don't realize what kind of impact we have on other people when it comes to giving them a compliment or being encouraging them, and so it's really cool to see how much that impacted you in just a little bit of encouragement, and that one friend that invited you out to do a little photo shoot, and it helped you feel conditioned to enter into that identity and that role of somebody who would eventually get these bigger roles. And it's really cool to see how you went from someone who wasn't even considering acting to being in a Netflix show. And you know, and I know, you're going to even greater heights with your career. And so, whether there's some sort of reroute or U-turns that you've encountered along the way with your journey to where you are now, we're just in your journey to your bigger goals. Are you experiencing any of those setbacks? Is it a straight A to B type journey? Is it just coming together perfectly, just kind of like? Give us a little bit of insight of what it's like for you to go through this.

Speaker 2:

Sure, I mean, there's a lot of setbacks and, granted, I've been very blessed to again go from not being an actor to being a full-time actor in less than three years.

Speaker 1:

Which is so impressive.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and a lot of people can't do that right, and so I consider myself very blessed to just have had the opportunity for that to happen. That being said, I'm not the kind of person that's easily satisfied, that's a good thing, you know, and so like. I'm like content with my life and I'm very I love where I'm at, but I always want to be better and grow more right.

Speaker 2:

And there have been setbacks. I've sent, I think, several emails trying to get an agent in LA, which I finally got one recently. Oh my gosh, congratulations, thank you. But it takes a lot of hard work and it's consistent hustling to always get the job. You know I'm consistently auditioning all of the time. I'm consistently sending out emails. What people I think don't understand sometimes is being an actor and being a model. You're a business owner.

Speaker 1:

And you know exactly how that is right. Oh, I know exactly what you mean.

Speaker 2:

And so I mean I'm constantly on my phone, constantly sending emails, constantly, you know, trying to get ahead, and sometimes you don't see the fruit of your efforts, like you put in 80, 90 hour work weeks right and then you don't feel like you see a lot of effort from that. But a lot of times it's the long game that really produces the fruit that you want to see and yeah. So that's kind of how I've taken in. It's been a lot of work, a lot of hard work, but it's been fun.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

And if there's anybody who is, is a hustler, who's getting in there, who's doing the work, I mean, it may look like on his Instagram that he's just always on a flight, like I'm just going to California, oh, I'm just going to Brazil, just out in the airport again, like you know, I'm always a little bit jealous and I'm like, oh, that would be so fun to be mad. But I know Matt, and I know, behind all of those videos and all of the things on his Instagram to showcase his work, that there is a lot, a lot of hard work and you deserve every bit of success that you receive, and I'm manifesting and rooting for you in every single area. Thank you, and anybody who knows you knows that you are also really good at being so present with people, which I love about you because, though you're so busy, you have so many things going on. I feel like that is incredible, that you're able to manage that and just have really good presence in different areas of your life. And so, speaking as your friend, that is incredible.

Speaker 1:

So what have been some of the different lessons that you've learned through your experiences with working with different agencies or different actors or projects, or even just like in the time span that you've gone from your major career changes? Have there been any life lessons that you've learned about yourself or about life, about the life journey?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I have like a little mantra that I kind of Ooh, let's hear it. It's like kind of all. Well, I don't know if it's a mantra, but it's all over my website. It's probably the number one advice that I give to anyone in any industry. But it's no one will work as hard as you to achieve your dreams.

Speaker 1:

I love that.

Speaker 2:

No one's gonna hustle as hard as you. No one's gonna stay up as late as you. No one will work as hard as you will to achieve your own dreams right, and so really putting in the hours of work. It was interesting. A person recently reached out to me. I was like Matt, I want to apply to an agency, blah, blah, blah, I would love to get your help. And I was like yeah, sure, and I gave them my advice and whatever. And then a few weeks later I followed up and I was like hey, did you ever get an email back with from that agency or whatever?

Speaker 2:

And she was like no, they never emailed me back. And I was like, oh, did you send a follow-up email? And she was like, oh, I mean, I've just so hard, I've been working so hard trying to get into the industry. It's so difficult. And I'm like, well, did you send a follow-up email? And she's like, no, I didn't. And I was like in my head I'm like what the heck? What do you mean? Like you're saying you're working hard and you haven't even sent a follow-up email.

Speaker 2:

Like it takes so much hard work, so much persistence, and that's in any industry. I mean, even when I was applying I'm going to medical school. I mean I graduated with a 3.9 GPA. I busted my butt to get really good grades in school and it's just, it consistently takes hard work and no one's going to work harder than you will to achieve your own dream. So we're trying to rely on other people to work as hard as you will. I don't think it's there. I don't think that'll happen. Those people will help you get there. I think having people around you support this and that will help you get where you want to go is really important, but no one will work as hard as you will Right and you have to have your why.

Speaker 1:

You have to be rooted, because I read something somewhere where it was like, if your accomplishments are rooted in the approval of someone else or you know you are trying to do something to gain approval of somebody who is your family or someone else in your life, then you're not going to have the same result. Honestly, it was a little bit more eloquent in how they presented what they said no.

Speaker 2:

that was pretty eloquent, I think.

Speaker 1:

But when it's very different, when your why is rooted or your actions and your success is rooted in your why, for your own personal fulfillment Because, like you said, people are not going to want to put in the extra effort. They're not going to want to sacrifice their sleep, their time with their friends. If you have health goals, going out to eat with people that you love hanging out with that they're going out and eating what you can't eat. Everything is going to have to go back to your by and that's going to keep you on track. Otherwise, you're going to be like the wind You're going to be able to sidetrack so much. I'm just super curious. I'm sure that our audience wants to know, like, what's next for you, like what are the goals that you're aiming for, because these are things that are happening now, but we know that there's a huge line of projects that you are just going to kill and you're attracting all these things from the universe that you 100% deserve and thank you so what are some of these you're working towards?

Speaker 2:

I mean the goal is film and TV, right, and so I mean, did my first three movies this summer, the one that I told you about the film the city and it's gonna be for a streaming service. We're not too sure which one yet.

Speaker 1:

We do know what they are. You know what they are. We are just going to wait for you to give the okay. Like, okay it's this, but I'm sure you're paying for right now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then I did like another local production that we're hoping to submit to Sundance and will be picked up by Sundance, and then there's another film that I also did for Hallmark, but the goal is film and TV, so I want to, I want. I'm passionate about telling stories and I love telling stories.

Speaker 2:

I love bringing stories that people have never heard to life or you know, things that really make people emote different emotions and make them happy or make them sad or make them learn something that they didn't know before, or being that person on screen that people can relate to or that they can see themselves in or see their experiences in, and I think there's something really beautiful about that and that's the goal. So, hopefully, more films, more TV shows that get me, that allow me to tell stories that's the goal.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, I love that and what a beautiful way to make an impact and leave kind of like a legacy in your work that you're doing. I think that is always so interesting and I'm like watching different actors and movies and I'm like these film, these movies, are gonna be around forever, and I'm sure that's something that you think about all the time, where it's like I have something that will be immortal, basically, and do you ever feel like, do you ever think about that when you're like filming and you're like this is going to be here forever, my kids will have something to look forward to. But also, obviously, with the huge projects you're doing are being noticed and watched and enjoyed and inspired by so many people now, but it's immortal, it'll be out there forever and that's your legacy?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, it's exciting. It's a little bit nerve-wracking, right. It makes you really think about the projects that I pick up and everything that. I do because I want the work that I do to be intentional and I want to leave a good legacy right, something that my family can be proud of.

Speaker 1:

And I want the world personally to be able to enjoy and know you and to just have a mat in their life in some way, and I think that is a beautiful way for the world to feel humanity, in the way that you present it, in the way that you give to the world, and I think that the world will be so much better, honestly, with more people like you.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate that too, You're already crying. I genuinely mean that.

Speaker 1:

And in my life. I'm very blessed to have you in my life and I'm always so inspired by you. Okay, we're gonna do a new segment and it's gonna be called Zero to 60 Seconds, because we're in an electric vehicle, obviously. And how this works is that I have a list of 500 questions and I'm gonna ask you to give me a number between one and 500, and I'm gonna randomly pick one and we're gonna answer this question where I do three Ready Give me the first number.

Speaker 2:

Do another one, 105. 105.

Speaker 1:

Okay, what is your dream?

Speaker 2:

car, my dream car, my dream car. Oh wow, I feel like it's really basic, but I love a G-Wagon. A G-Wagon, oh my gosh, I can see you just pulling up in a G.

Speaker 1:

I'm a big G-Wagon kind of guy, Ooh what are we doing?

Speaker 2:

like a mat wrap.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, definitely a mat wrap.

Speaker 2:

Maybe like olive green. Ooh, Looks really nice yeah very classy.

Speaker 1:

Which is nice. Okay, you can see that. Do we have an interior color picked up?

Speaker 2:

So I love it when, like the interior color kind of matches the exterior, so I probably do like two-tone color, maybe like white seats or cream seats with like green accents Like olive green accents.

Speaker 1:

Mercedes, can you make this happen? This?

Speaker 2:

is our order right now. Please sponsor this podcast.

Speaker 1:

And get me one while you're at it. Yes, please, we both really do, we'll just roll up to all of our dinners with our fancy cars. Okay, we're gonna do our second one.

Speaker 2:

Give me another number Next, number 217.

Speaker 1:

Who in your life has the most positive outlook on life?

Speaker 2:

Who in my life has the most positive outlook on life? Ooh, that's a great question. I would probably have to say my mom, your mom, yeah, my mom has one of the most positive outlooks in my life. I think she always helps me see the brighter side of things and to look up and whenever I'm not doing well or just like flustered or frustrated with anything, she's always just like, helps me stay positive and helps me see the future and keep moving forward.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that is so precious.

Speaker 2:

Love you mom.

Speaker 1:

And I've seen you post about your mother and I want to meet her so bad. So this is like me saying hi too, but I think that your relationship with her has been just very precious and very sweet. You guys are very close.

Speaker 2:

We are very close. She's like my best friend.

Speaker 1:

I've noticed. It's amazing. Well, there's got to be an amazing woman behind someone like you, because obviously we are our upbringing a little bit and they can contribute to who we are and the kind of person that we've become. And so if you want to raise people like Matt, if you're a parent out there, if you are going to have kids, just make sure to follow the footsteps of Matt's mom to make sure that you have just a stellar person into the world. Okay, last question.

Speaker 2:

Okay, last question Do you have one already?

Speaker 1:

I do not. You have to give me the number 355.

Speaker 2:

I'm nervous.

Speaker 1:

This question is making me feel Ready. If you were arrested with no explanation, what would your friends and family assume that you have done? Oh gosh.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so a funny story. I actually almost did get arrested once. No For breaking into my own car, your own car I forgot my car keys in my car and I try I was like trying to break into it?

Speaker 1:

Was it a Lamborghini? And you were just like this is my car, this is my car, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, I'd probably be for that, for breaking into my own car. It's probably why I would do it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, I was thinking it was gonna be fast. Related Like walking down the street should be legal to look this good, or something like that. Yeah, I mean that too, I mean that happens every time I don't cross all the way over there. They're like arrest that guy, I'm excited. They're like, hey, he's in a suit Scrap him. He's making this feel really bad right now yeah. And what was it like unachievable standards for, like attractiveness or something?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Literally Well, amazing, well, thank you so much for playing for our Zero to 60 game. Yes, so just wrapping this up a little bit, which I really am so sad that it is ending, because we could literally go on for ever. We could talk for hours, and hours and hours we could, we could, so we will definitely have you on another episode.

Speaker 2:

Please.

Speaker 1:

But just in closing I would love to give you the opportunity to kind of give our audience a little bit of a last word, final thought of what you would tell your younger self.

Speaker 2:

Life oftentimes won't go as planned, and that's okay. But whatever you are doing, whatever you end up, whatever route you end up going on, just work your ass off, just work your hardest and in the end things will work out, even when life seems really shitty. And you know, and things might not be going your way, or a lot of trials or things are happening, so just keep looking forward. And it's really hard, it's really really hard, but you'll get through.

Speaker 1:

I won't run into that. I just wanted me. Little Matt, younger Matt, you're like, you're a baller at every stage, do you understand? You're gonna be on unnamed TV network you know streaming network and you're gonna make such a huge difference in lives of so many. That's what I would tell If we went back. I wanna go back to you and let him know that You're so welcome and yeah, it was such a pleasure, matt, and honestly, I can go on for hours and hours about you. Where can everyone in the audience find you? Connect with you on social online.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, you can. So I actually just did a rebrand.

Speaker 1:

A rebrand I want you today.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, congratulations, thank you so personally I go by Matt or Matthew right Personally, but my official new stage name, professional name, is Teo Teo.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Teo, Wait, give us a little sultry like a in the mic Give us a renew Teo.

Speaker 2:

What is Teo Teo? So yeah, Teo's my new stage name.

Speaker 1:

I love it, so I'll be going by.

Speaker 2:

You can find my website. You can look at my portfolio, look at some of the work or anything I'm doing at itsteocom itsteocom. You can also find me on Instagram, which might change, but for now it is brazilianmatt and yeah.

Speaker 1:

Amazing, oh my goodness. Well, it was again such a pleasure to have you on the show and thank you again for listening to another Tesla Talks episode. We are so grateful to have had Matt on today. If you have found this inspiring, entertaining or have learned anything from this episode, please give us a rating. We love to hear your feedback and it means so much for us on the podcast. We have our hardworking team and our amazing guests that we would love to give them an amazing rating for so we will see you at our next pit stop on our next episode of Tesla Talks For another extraordinary story, extraordinary journeys and extraordinary humans in this podcast, unbelievable Neden 이러hnArt is extremely technologies. That needs to be. Tú roundsЯWis yelos dearuv dub Curios Thanks.