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Riding the Wave of Entrepreneurship: Stories from Thirst with Ethan
Get ready for an entrepreneurship masterclass that's fizzing with insights and deliciously intriguing stories! We're popping the top on a conversation with Ethan, founder of the popular soda shop Thirst. His journey from humble beginnings to now being at the helm of a soda empire is nothing short of inspiring. He’s got a refreshing take on brand building and customer engagement. And “thirsty nation”? Wait till you hear about that!
Fasten your seatbelts as we switch gears and introduce two entrepreneurial friends who've turned the world of business into their playground. From viewing competition as a motivator to treating business as a game, their unique perspectives are sure to resonate and inspire budding entrepreneurs. But hold on; we're not done just yet! We’ve got a rapid-fire session with Ethan that reveals his unique take on colors, tastes, and survival skills. Plus, a potential career in the boy band Naked Brothers Band? Intrigued? So were we.
Finally, we shift focus to our guest Nate Wolf, founder of Swag.com, a man who clearly knows the swag of success. His business journey filled with lessons learned and the importance of emotional control in decision-making is nothing short of a crash course in entrepreneurship. So whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned one, get ready for an episode filled with fun, laughter, learning and oh so many invaluable tips.
Welcome to Tesla Talks. I'm your host, tiana Tiana, tiana, tiana. I'll be interviewing high achievers, influential leaders and those with powerful stories. Tune in, buckle up. We're about to go 0 to 100 real quick. Hey guys, I'm so excited about today's podcast. We have an absolute baller on the show. His name is Ethan, from Thursday. Thanks so much for being here, Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I'm stoked to be in the Tesla.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. I mean we were just rolling through the Thursday parking lot. They have the most amazing drive-through. I'm so just like I feel like I'm going to like a different place when I go through.
Speaker 2:Everyone's so happy.
Speaker 3:It's an experience.
Speaker 1:It's an experience, it's an experience and the free popcorn. Are you kidding? That's my favorite snack.
Speaker 2:It's almost like can you know it's coming?
Speaker 1:It's a little thing, but everyone gets to have that and it's the coolest thing. Well, first of all, off camera, I just was so excited to just go ahead and ask questions. We almost pressed record because it was just so good. There's so much we want to know about you. If you're following him, you already know, as an entrepreneur, I have just admired you for so many things. If you follow him, you know he's just always going. So I really appreciate you taking the time to film this.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I'm stoked to be here. Yeah, let's do this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so people here in Utah, we all know about thirst If you've been to what's called the Delta Center now, it used to be the the Vanirina. Yes, like the best part about the whole thing Just going at your thirst. Tell us a little bit about your story. You're just doing everything.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Yeah, just an entrepreneur kid from the get-go. I was a lawnmowing business, snow cone shack type of kid.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Got the nice beginnings there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's always been just kind of a hustler. And then I graduated high school and wanted to do something a little bit more and then kind of saw the soda shop thing blowing up. It was basically at the time. This was like seven or eight years ago. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so this was like when Swig was basically in St George and maybe Provo, but there really wasn't one on every corner like there is now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, they're everywhere, literally everywhere.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I just wanted to bring it to the Salt Lake Valley and basically created thirst, and thirst is an experience of soft pretzel bites, beignets, free popcorn like you're talking about, obviously drinks, but more than anything it's just like a fun, relevant, hip, exciting brand. That's an experience through the drive through and it's fun to go do with your friends.
Speaker 1:So it's been a heck of a ride. Oh my gosh. Well, it just goes to show that you are constantly hustling and it did take seven to eight years of just kind of going through different venues of entrepreneurship and business and it's just kind of innately in people and entrepreneurs where you just start so young and it's kind of in you.
Speaker 2:It takes a long time. I think one of the most underrated things about entrepreneurship is how long it takes. I feel like I'm like an eighth, a 10th, a 50th of the way into the journey right now and I'm like holy cow. So you really got to like it, you really got to have your mindset in the right place to be able to go for that long, for that hard. So I think it's one of the I would say one of the things about entrepreneurship that separates people that are ultimately successful or not is the first five years, first 10 years, and it's a long time even five or 10 years a long time. But I think if you can make a pass there, you've got something going for you.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, yeah, and I mean, has it felt like it's been that long and kind of go by, yeah, in a lot of?
Speaker 2:ways for sure. Yeah, it's come. Things have come super super far. So I would say yeah, but at the same time, I'm ready to keep going, not tired.
Speaker 1:You're like we are just getting started. Five, seven years already in the bag, We've got it Well, I have a very serious question.
Speaker 3:Hit me.
Speaker 2:I'm ready for it.
Speaker 1:So we know about thirst, and it's thirsty nation, right, and so did this start in your fraternity days, like Sigmund Shee.
Speaker 2:The thirsty nation. Yeah no, the thirsty nation came from you know. I would love to say it was from my frat days, because I'll respect the frat days. But no, the thirsty nation came from like. I think talking to your audience as if they're your friend or as if they're more than someone who's going to pay you money for something, is a good idea when building a brand. Oh, I love that, and so I think if you can name them, it's all the better. Like something with a name is much more brandable than something without.
Speaker 3:So I don't know.
Speaker 2:I just think I heard something nation somewhere, like in the early days, and I was like, oh my gosh, I should do that for my audience and that's how I talk to the camera, that's how I do it, like on the thirst stories or what.
Speaker 3:Wait, let's hear it real quick.
Speaker 2:I'm just like thirsty nation, what up. It's Ethan. Thirsty nation, what up? Like we're out here doing this today and I just talked to him like genuinely like a supporter, like a friend, and I'll tell him like one of the things that I have like tripled down on is I'll tell him like things that we're working on or things that we totally failed on, yeah, yeah, totally Because we know that the drive-thru took
Speaker 2:way too long today. We're really sorry. Like there's no reason. Thank you so much for your patience. Yeah, or then it's more of our friend, less like like our customer. That is only just like a business transaction. So, yeah, I think it's a branding move and just something that I've always done.
Speaker 1:No, it's so genius because honestly like people, honestly, because business is just relationships. Yeah, would you agree?
Speaker 2:100%. Yeah, I think one of the main relationships is with your customers, right yeah, and so yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I love that and you definitely translate that into everything that you're doing. Everyone at the drive-thru they really do carry the same sense of like. You feel like you know each other, like, oh, I'm good, I have a friend here. You know, when you walk into like an establishment and you're just like, oh, I know the guy that's back there.
Speaker 2:I know the owner.
Speaker 1:And you just feel that way when you go to Thurst.
Speaker 2:honestly, oh, I'm glad you hear that.
Speaker 1:You're like and I also love we as a, so One thing that I will know is that we actually did a wedding together, so I own the.
Speaker 3:Baldy Sharkootery here in Utah.
Speaker 1:We do Sharkootery boards, grazing tables and actually the first wedding that we ever did years ago. You were there and you're another vendor and it was such a blast. But I had already known about you on Instagram and it was so cool. I was in the facade. It was definitely very genuine and very fun and everyone was excited. I was like, oh my gosh, it's like literally as fun as it is on Instagram, but it's in person and it felt so genuine. I also just wanted to commend you for just there's so much respect for the owner who is so present, because you see a lot of brands who just their maybe goal is to exit at one point and that's kind of there's nothing wrong with that, honestly, but I love that. You are the life blood and it's keeping your business the way that you would operate it. All of your people have the same welcoming friends.
Speaker 1:Does everyone kind of have like their little handles or not. Everyone has like their thirst thing yeah that is so fun. What if I came in and became like a for the day and I mean I wanted to just offer my help a little bit? If you wanted to, I'm more than happy to just do like. You know, get a little Instagram handle like Tiana from Thirst sometime and just like. Do like for the day because I love popcorn. I'll just do like the pop card, just for the little girl that like just hands it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm down with it. I'm down with it.
Speaker 1:Be like hey guys, Tiana from Thirst here, you heard it here first.
Speaker 2:Thirsty nation.
Speaker 1:I'm in thirsty nation. You kidding me? Yeah, that is like definitely what I identify as. I'm definitely a part of this nation. So tell me about some of the roadblocks that you encountered with doing, I mean, just entrepreneur only. Have there been any U-turns, any stop signs, if you will, yeah, or has it just been like super carefree autopilot the entire time?
Speaker 2:No, I mean it's like the most difficult thing of all time, definitely the most difficult thing I've ever done. It's also the only thing that I do, but yeah it's no, it's for sure difficult, like it's.
Speaker 2:I'm right in the middle of it, like I think one of the things about me is like I like to document the journey of entrepreneurship. I am neck deep in the thick of entrepreneurship right now. I'm like right at the hump. I feel like I'm at the point of like total, like like tipping point, almost. Like you know, we're at like this kind of point where we're not like a small business anymore.
Speaker 1:We're not a big one either, yeah.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I think that's a really hard jump to make.
Speaker 2:And yeah it's come with its challenges for sure, I'd say, just off the top of my head, like people management is no question one of the hardest ones, something I like to spend a lot of time on. I think about a lot but, just like you know, we were talking about it earlier this scale like you mentioned, like feeling like you have a friend whenever you come to thirst, like that's one of the main things like I worry about is like oh in the heck, do we figure out a scale that?
Speaker 3:yeah.
Speaker 2:And how do you tell people, how do you treat people a certain way and talk to them a certain way and pay them a certain amount of money and do all? These things to make them ultimately be on board with your vision and do what you want to do, and so I think that's the hardest hurdle. That's probably the hardest hurdle for everyone.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I mean like just classic challenges along the way. It's been anything but easy. It still is not Barbara music and it's a journey, it's fun. I think it's something you need to figure out every day and I'm here for it. Like, uh, we were talking about earlier, like I think of business as a game.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm. You know like it's an intense game, it's a real life game like and you know people's salaries on the are on the line too.
Speaker 2:So I don't mean it in like a like a not important type of way, right, but in a way of, like you know, we can put all our energy on this, leave it all on the field and treat it like Like, like a, like you would a game, like you hustle for wins. Yeah and you do whatever it takes, and so, yeah, that's what I think about it.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that. And also, you know, I did remember one time that you brought competitors or, I guess, just other people in the industry, that you reached out to them and really saw them as Other people who are, you know, doing the same hustle.
Speaker 1:Yeah and that was really um, something that I highly respect because, like you said, it's a game and like you care so much about it and you're not Going to slow down for anybody, but it was. It just struck me Like that's something that I really love, that you did Um and and you know like it is competitive, you know like it is. But I think that that's just showing who you are as a person and yeah, I mean, like you wouldn't be a game if there was no competitors like I don't know why people don't like their competitors, so for me it's I love them.
Speaker 2:I think it's fun, like I understand that. That's one of the most fun parts about the game. Yeah um, so I'm I'm here to cheer for them, I'm stoked, I want to be friends with them. Not everyone wants to be friends back.
Speaker 1:That's fine, oh my gosh babe, wouldn't you want to?
Speaker 2:But like no, I like, of course I want to beat them, like it's that's the game, right, like I'm gonna do everything I possibly can to beat them and it's gonna get competitive. But but you know, that's like I said, that is the game and so, yeah, I like to show all love to the competitors, for sure.
Speaker 1:Totally. I mean, like, what would like I don't know a soccer game where, like the nfl Be if they didn't give it their all?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they don't want to be each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, totally. But you know it just makes it like motivating, because Everyone wants to be the best and I feel like it would be such a waste If you didn't see how far you can go in your business, or even by just think that there's a, there's a good sense of teamwork. You know, like at the end of the game of baseball or something, you're like good game again, even if you're like, oh my gosh, that was so rude, but I saw that, um, bad call, but maybe, um, but just having a good sense of like encouragement because Everyone's doing their best, um, yeah, and they push you to do better too, like I was, I was message like Uh, instagram messaging like the I don't know if it's like the CEO or one of like the people at swig.
Speaker 2:Yeah and like we're just messaging and I appreciated what he said. He was like you guys are always pushing us to do better and obviously the vice versa is the same and I appreciated that because, like that is the point right. Yeah, like we see them, like it's not that we like focus a ton on competitors, but yeah. I'm like you want to be the best in the market, so you're aware of what's going on and so I think it's good. I think it's fun and healthy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think I mean in so many other places you'll see people kind of push other people down so that you're higher, and that's never, I've never seen that be in anyone's favor, you know.
Speaker 2:I agreed yeah, it's like. It's like the most losing strategy of all time to like think that a competitor Is taking business out of our pocket, in my opinion, because, like, for example, like for me, that we just keep talking about sake.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:For me like to be complaining oh my gosh, like swig is so busy down there. Like, like what. Like just focusing on that and like being all my energy about that and like trying to get their Customers away from there to come here. Like there's unlimited amounts of more people that we could go do good marketing for or in their business for or Bring free samples to or whatever it may be, so it's just like, in my opinion, a losing strategy to be like that thing is holding me back from doing what it is.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to do. Yeah, compared to like let me go, you know, will my success, you know on my own.
Speaker 1:So totally agree, no, and like this reminds me of, like, a little quote that I heard and I may butcher it, so I'm so sorry, but it's like this visual of you know, of an industry where, when tides rise, all the boats rise and obviously we're in charge of you know, putting the fast engine in. But you know, like it does help all of us when we have a community that loves delicious snack foods, like delicious pretzels, delicious sodas and drinks and.
Speaker 1:I think that Creating a community in Utah especially if you're in Utah, you definitely know that this is like a staple of our personality, of our culture is our drinks and our sodas. Um, I feel like there's definitely a huge market for them and I feel like, with having some demand and having a sense of like, oh, that's just a I'm a normal thing that we do, like hey, wanted to hang out and go get us.
Speaker 2:Yeah go get something like a soda yeah um, and if you're the best. Sorry, I'm good. Yeah, if you're the best in the market, like, for example, like with your business, like yeah like you wouldn't be in business if you didn't truly think that, like you had a massive value prop as a business.
Speaker 2:Right, like to offer to someone or that you were the best in the market, like wouldn't you always try to Think or aim to be the best in the market? And if that's true, then the awareness of your concept of the of charcuterie boards or soda shops. In general is just going to speed up the process of people figuring out that our business is the best right. So like, yeah to your point, like it will make everyone better and if you're the best, you know the consumer, the market gravitates towards the best product.
Speaker 2:At the end of the day, right, I think one of the best things about the market and the market being the consumers is they're unbiased. They just go to what brings them the most value period and so, like anyone, can create the best. It's one of the coolest things about entrepreneurship because, like anyone, can go out and, regardless of their background or regardless of what they've done before, create the best thing in the market, and market's unbiased and it will follow suit. So I think it's one of the coolest parts about entrepreneurship.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that. And, yeah, our audience. You know, like the people that we're serving, they're humans, they have feelings and it's so simple. But in order to replicate and create an environment, like you said, there's so much work and in the background of that that, the goal is to look so seamless and like everyone looks like they have all together on Instagram and it looks beautiful and you know there's a lot of work that goes behind the scenes to.
Speaker 1:You know, keep and maintain that standard and that expectation. And I love what you said before about you know how you're giving people background and insight on the day to day and you're not saying it's perfect every day.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 1:I think that makes it really relatable and it makes you feel like, yeah, like you're going to support a friend, because people like transparency, people like knowing that there is something about the business that isn't just I don't know.
Speaker 2:It humanizes it. You know? Yeah, totally yeah, putting a face behind it, it's everything for sales. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and, like I think it was yesterday, there was a video that you had on your personal page, ethan from thirst, go follow it. You're probably already following it because it's awesome, just like you know. Like, all right, so this was going on today and I went down to St George and I'm doing this and I got the truck for wet souls back when you got that, and then you know, and you know, there are things that you just always wonder, but it's refreshing.
Speaker 1:It's refreshing because we're kind of moving towards a more relatable place yeah, like content, because people are yeah, people want to see the human side of us, they want to see a brand that really resonates with them and right now, people are really wanting something relatable and I feel like, with things that are so curated, like we're talking about before, there's something about you coming in front of the camera that you can't replace with a curated picture, because everyone's trying to get like the perfect little picture, perfect feed, which is very well-representing of your company, but also, you know, we're not all perfect.
Speaker 2:you know it's also like an impossible game to win, I think like trying to create the best photo video picture on. Instagram in a world where everyone in the world is on Instagram. It's like that is the hardest game to play of all time. However, like no one can be you and no one can go on the, on the you know social media and make a video about what's happening to you and show your personality. So yeah, I think it's. I've said it before, I said it again.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's the most original, most authentic piece of content that anyone has is, in my opinion, is a selfie video of himself, like just saying what's up? Unfiltered, Unfiltered zero edits on it because, like you know that it's, no one can replicate it.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. So we're gonna do a sharp left turn and we're gonna do this little segment. Yeah, reaction autopilot right now, don't, don't come after me. It's fine, we have the segment called zero to 60. Just rapid fire questions that we have for you and they may be kind of crazy questions, might be kind of fun question might be. We don't know what they're gonna be. They're just coming from a list of 500 questions. You get to pick the first three, perfect Any number between one and 500, it'll do one at a time.
Speaker 2:So I'll just pull up that little list and you just tell me which number you want. So I'm picking a number one for you. Okay, 75. Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, if colors can have a taste, what would the first color is that comes to your mind Probably orange. Get orange. What would they taste like?
Speaker 2:Orange would taste like a citrus. That's no brainer. What Orange would taste like a citrus? It would also probably smell like pretzel bites and popcorn. A little bit it even tastes like Dr Pepper a little.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 2:Thirsty nation orange.
Speaker 1:Thirsty nation orange baby. All right, I love that. What would blue taste like?
Speaker 3:Blue would probably taste like Swig or Fizz or something, fizz I should say, but we won't go into the specifics, one that they would taste like.
Speaker 1:It tastes like competition. I'm just kidding. What would green taste like?
Speaker 2:Green would taste like melon.
Speaker 1:What does black taste like?
Speaker 2:Black would taste like black licorice, for sure.
Speaker 1:You like black licorice. No, I don't, I can't even say it. It's just like black licorice. I feel like I understand. I know what kind of person you are, if you like black licorice or not. It's like a whole personality trait. I don't know if I could trust people who like black licorice.
Speaker 3:Absolutely not, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:This is your stop right now. Yes, what's the next number? 100.
Speaker 1:100. Okay, even Ready, how well do you think you would last in the woods alone without anything for two weeks?
Speaker 2:Probably mid to lower to your performance Because I am like a Cub Scout dropout and a Boy Scout dropout.
Speaker 1:No, you're like I had some business to like freaking start, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would be mid to lower tier, no question. Yeah, I probably scout by a little. Might be able to get creative, but have zero skills out there.
Speaker 1:So maybe don't enter into the Hunger Games.
Speaker 2:Absolutely not. Maybe the Thirst Games, not the Hunger Games, the Thirst Nation Games. That was a terrible joke, yeah.
Speaker 1:Alright, awesome, I'm rooting for you if it's ever like in that situation. I think, you've got skills, you've got the entrepreneur spirit. We just figure things out you know, Alright, last question Was it 1 to 500?
Speaker 2:1 to 500. 500. 500. 500. Just scrolling All the way down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all the way down, let's go. If there was a boy band, Okay. That you were invited to be the main singer on.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:And that was like another life of Ethan.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Who would you be?
Speaker 2:Okay, let me think of the boy bands. I know, oh, I know exactly who I would pick. Tell me, I know exactly who I would pick. Shout out to anyone who knows this the Naked Brothers Band, the Naked Brothers Band. But which one Does anyone? What do you mean? Do you know the Naked Brothers Band? Yes, I do.
Speaker 1:You know the Naked Brothers Band? Yes, I do, I'm a millennial, okay.
Speaker 2:Long-distance relationship will kill you. These are some of the greatest songs ever, so you would be like the main. I would. Yeah, they would both take a back seat and I would probably take the lead sing.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, do you want to give us like a little excerpt right now?
Speaker 2:I would, but I just just hurt my throat a couple days ago.
Speaker 1:So I can't.
Speaker 2:It's weird.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. Well, I also. I feel like this should be a paid performance. This isn't something you're willing to just give away for free.
Speaker 2:But no question would be the Naked Brothers Band from Nickelodeon Freaking long distance relationships will kill you, isn't it, nate?
Speaker 1:Wolf, Nate Wolf yeah, I don't know. Is that the name of the first Nate Wolf?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to go with that.
Speaker 1:Where are they now Do?
Speaker 2:you think?
Speaker 1:that they're, like you know, working the nine to five or something. So then, you know them. Yeah, I got you. I mean, it was either that or I was like thinking maybe like fucking away, I kind of I'm getting like a backsharp boys five, I'll take that. Like I you would have moves. I'm sure you've. You've got it, You've got it coming for you.
Speaker 2:I'd take that.
Speaker 1:They just, they just got back together.
Speaker 2:If either of them are getting kind of old.
Speaker 1:I went to their concert last year and it was amazing. I cried but yeah, I wanted that way, you kidding. But I heard, I heard from Ricky actually yesterday. He said that NSYNC was getting back together, or rumored, or confirmed rumor that they're getting back together. So there's like this whole revamp of like reviving of like the boy bands are coming back.
Speaker 2:Maybe the naked brothers will get back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe one of them are just like I'm not really into that anymore. I was like a kid and then you're like I got you. Hey, guess what? I'm not busy at all, let me just I'm just naked brother from thirst naked brother from thirst, family friendly, for sure. They're like, yeah, yeah. I don't think the kids these days know of the original, like the.
Speaker 2:OG.
Speaker 1:Were they Nickelodeon. So, like there was that, and then there was like I don't know, you've got your Jonas brothers.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, jonas, that could have been yeah.
Speaker 1:I could totally see you being like red dress, you're like the Nick, the thing, yeah, anyway, but yeah, well, I just want to ask you one or two last final questions. This has been so fun. I would love to know from the person that you are right now, having achieved everything that you have accomplished so far, which is so much, and you're you're scheduled to do so many more things, and I'm so excited to see you on that journey. What would, what would younger let's say five, five year old Ethan, if you could say anything to him right now?
Speaker 2:That's a great question, I would say in all seriousness, it would be probably to not let emotions interfere with, like, major business decisions and just quick things. That, like I want to react on an example would be like I've matured on this a lot of things in the last seven years, but like Feeling a certain way, whether it's about an employee, whether it's about like and that's going on in the business, or customer, and like immediately our reaction is to like, want to do something about it. Like, for example, like an Employee at any given store, like why are you, like you see them doing something that you've trained them?
Speaker 2:to do another way, so many times that you see, but you see them do it like I would. I want to be like known and I think it's more strategic genuinely as a businessman or a business person to like have more patience in those scenarios and Not have like quick firing of what are you doing? What are you thinking like Totally, or if, like a business partner says something that you might not have all the context of, just like patience patience and like just like controlling emotions in business.
Speaker 2:always like I want to be the type of leader I'm hoping that I'm evolving and type of elite into the type of leader that's like Cool as a cucumber. Yeah like cool as a cucumber but also is, like you know, an executor and gets lots of stuff done. But I think it's the best business move to to control your emotions in every scenario, and so I would say, like as a young man, like that's something that I'm learning for sure.
Speaker 2:Like I'm like learning to be more patient, I'm learning to be more mature in that aspect. So I would tell that stuff to my younger self like Breathe, a little bit like take a couple minutes before you make a decision on something. Because I'm so fast, I'm so like kick this, this, this, this, this this. I would say like take a step back in and make sure that you're doing the thing that you want to be doing.
Speaker 1:Oh, my gosh, I love that and I can just, I could just picture you at every age just being very, very driven. But also, you know, you can't help but be a little bit emotional when it's something that matters so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally just good in a lot of ways. But yeah, like passion is really good. But I think, you know, sometimes we do things that we don't didn't mean to do or wasn't like. If we're thinking about what's gonna be the best way to Progress and like solve this scenario or progress the business, like, most of the time it's not that thing that we want instant gratification on in that moment, and so I would tell myself to just Chill a little and just just think about stuff a little more and be and be super strategic.
Speaker 1:No, I love that and Gosh I, I just really admire you and I want you to know you know, I'm 28 and I, I, I would I would hope that young entrepreneurs out there took me a while to get work. I am business-wise and things like that in my entrepreneurship journey. You know it's cool to be in a position where you can help others who are starting, and so I hope there are people who are listening to this, who you know, even if you're like in the position of a really big company. Like you said with swag, how there's always somewhere to improve and there's always. You could always learn from people, learn from your, your clients, your customers, your compact, your competition and just my other people, because it's all about relationships, not about the people around us. And Thank you for being that example in the community and just being an amazing business owner and just human and Thanks for inspiring us all.
Speaker 2:I do my best.
Speaker 1:Well, it's been an honor to be on the show with you and yeah, thank you. And please, if you're down in an area where you don't have a thirst, make a road trip, get in your little car Down to the nearest thirst.
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Speaker 2:Let's go All right.
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Speaker 1:Ethan please.