Ever wondered what it's like growing up between cultures or how it shapes one's identity? Meet Martin Routai Villavan, a fascinating individual with a Chinese father and an American mother, born in Bangkok and having lived in China and the US. As a technology teacher, football lover, and an experienced traveler, Martin takes us on a captivating expedition of his unique background, sharing amusing anecdotes, and discussing a variety of topics ranging from cultural diversity to sports.
We promise a hearty laugh as we explore the misconceptions that come with our passports, and engage in light-hearted debates around sports, especially football. It's not all about giggles and ribbing as we also reflect on serious issues such as the legalization of marijuana. Expect to navigate through a maze of thoughts and ideas, leaping from NFL team preferences to the history of hemp and the oil industry. With a touch of movie references and a dash of spirited banter, we weave a tapestry of conversation that is both entertaining and intellectually stimulating.
Our final destination? A traditional Cuban box hog roast. But before we get there, we traverse through discussions about outdoor activities like climbing and mountain biking, and passionate talk about soccer culture and coaching. As we bring this journey to a close, we hope you've enjoyed the ride and gained insights into our shared experiences, differences, and the connections we've made through them. So, here's to laughter, learning, and a whole lot of fun. Grab a cup of your favorite brew and join us on this rollercoaster ride of thought-provoking conversation!
Ever wondered what it's like growing up between cultures or how it shapes one's identity? Meet Martin Routai Villavan, a fascinating individual with a Chinese father and an American mother, born in Bangkok and having lived in China and the US. As a technology teacher, football lover, and an experienced traveler, Martin takes us on a captivating expedition of his unique background, sharing amusing anecdotes, and discussing a variety of topics ranging from cultural diversity to sports.
We promise a hearty laugh as we explore the misconceptions that come with our passports, and engage in light-hearted debates around sports, especially football. It's not all about giggles and ribbing as we also reflect on serious issues such as the legalization of marijuana. Expect to navigate through a maze of thoughts and ideas, leaping from NFL team preferences to the history of hemp and the oil industry. With a touch of movie references and a dash of spirited banter, we weave a tapestry of conversation that is both entertaining and intellectually stimulating.
Our final destination? A traditional Cuban box hog roast. But before we get there, we traverse through discussions about outdoor activities like climbing and mountain biking, and passionate talk about soccer culture and coaching. As we bring this journey to a close, we hope you've enjoyed the ride and gained insights into our shared experiences, differences, and the connections we've made through them. So, here's to laughter, learning, and a whole lot of fun. Grab a cup of your favorite brew and join us on this rollercoaster ride of thought-provoking conversation!
Hello there, welcome to another episode of Terribly Unoblivious. On today's episode we have special guest Martin Routai Villavan joining Brad and I for a Thanksgiving cocktail. Martin is the son of a Chinese national father and American mother. He was born and raised in Bangkok, thailand, and moved to the United States to study at Co-College in Cedar Rapids, iowa. After graduating with his degree in education, martin spent 17 years as a technology teacher in China before moving back to the US with his wife and kids. Listen along as Martin and I become fast friends and plots remove Brad from the show. This is Terribly Unoblivious. Episode 8, thanksgiving Cordial.
Speaker 3:Yep, I said it before and I'll say it again Life moves pretty fast, you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. Driving isn't the only thing.
Speaker 1:We've started. I hit the record button.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have eyeballs.
Speaker 1:Are they on your penis, because that's called genital herpes.
Speaker 2:It's gift to gifts I'm giving.
Speaker 1:You want to introduce someone. What do we got? It's not your wife.
Speaker 3:Not my wife.
Speaker 1:Okay, so do a better job of introductions, Brad.
Speaker 3:Second guest, if this goes in order.
Speaker 1:That's true, we're not good at chronological.
Speaker 3:It's another person. Are you AI? Are you real? Is this real life? Are you an alien?
Speaker 1:Red pill or blue pill?
Speaker 3:Wait, what did he take?
Speaker 1:It's the red pill right.
Speaker 3:He took the red pill. Yeah, because if he took the blue pill it would be Viagra. That would have been a different movie.
Speaker 1:There has to be an adult film. There has to be one Now that you bring this up, you're absolutely right there has to be, and would Trinity give him the pill, or would Morpheus give him the pill still? Well, I mean it's basically the multiverse.
Speaker 3:I mean it is and you could spend things in midair for a long time, and I just wonder what that would lend itself to. Options are endless. Sounds a lot like pool sex.
Speaker 1:Today no no, you said suspended in air.
Speaker 3:Yeah, without the chlorine burn.
Speaker 1:You don't have. You don't have saltwater pools. You know how? I know you're from a poor town.
Speaker 3:You don't have saltwater pools, because I'm not from a town, you're a township Everybody's from a township.
Speaker 1:Are you sure? Yeah, not a borough.
Speaker 3:No, that's a city right.
Speaker 1:You're the one that's proof of.
Speaker 3:Anyway, it's Defocating right now. Our guest Martin Rue Tyvillavan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you get it yeah.
Speaker 1:Is that it? Mm? Hmm, good, how does somebody get a last name like that?
Speaker 2:Did you really want me to explain?
Speaker 1:I do.
Speaker 2:Okay, so Well, I guess you Okay. So, essentially, my dad is Chinese and living in Bangkok. Well, my grandfather actually fled from China into Bangkok. Where's Bangkok? That's Thailand, by the way. Southeast Asia. Where's Hong Kong? It's north of Southeast or northeast of Southeast Asia. Can you drive to all of them From the United States, from each other? Yeah, you could, technically.
Speaker 3:Really. Yeah, I thought Hong Kong was an island.
Speaker 2:But I mean, there's underground, there's bridges to.
Speaker 3:Underground tube. Yes, wow.
Speaker 1:Is it the boring?
Speaker 3:company. No, the ones that go like under the sea.
Speaker 1:I mean they've had. Okay, here's Sebastian. The rest of the episode now.
Speaker 3:I can't insult all French people. I don't even want to try, it's not.
Speaker 1:Little Mermaid under the sea. Sebastian, Come on, that's where I was going.
Speaker 3:I get it.
Speaker 1:I don't think he did.
Speaker 3:He's got a French accent right.
Speaker 1:It's more like a Creole Cajun, yeah, which is French, I guess.
Speaker 3:But Sure it Well okay. Louisiana, French.
Speaker 2:Okay. So, anyways, in order for my grandfather to actually own land in Thailand or have a business, he had to change his last name, which was Chinese, to a Thai last name. So that's how that came about, and it wasn't actually my grandfather that changed the name. It was, I believe, my aunt, who was the oldest. Changed it to Ruteville of An, which actually translates into beautiful heart. Don't give a Does it, it does.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's never allowed back on the show. It's too heartwarming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like that's true, you know what I could be wrong, but that's just what I was told. Passed down, yeah, so this was your program. This is my grandfather, yeah, my dad's side.
Speaker 1:When did that side come to the US then?
Speaker 2:So my dad my dad came to the States in 60s and then my mom and they eventually got married. You just saw your dad's from Thailand. Yeah, Okay, so technically he's.
Speaker 1:Thai, Chinese but.
Speaker 2:Thai.
Speaker 1:Chinese, yeah, in the 60s very and obviously completely different country. But was there any because the US is so good at grouping large quantities of people together any Vietnam stigma coming over?
Speaker 2:Like all these people. Oh, my God, yes.
Speaker 1:All of us. Was there anything when he came over? Was there any kind of? Any any negativity or anything along those lines or anything. Yeah, I mean the, I mean it was the 60s, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:So I mean, there were certain people that didn't end up having certain people that actually didn't go to my mom's wedding because she was married in Catholic church with my dad. Oh, wow, yeah. So that's sort of thing. And by the time my mom and dad got married, my mom's father passed away already, so and I think that would have been interesting within itself.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. I was thinking about Hong Kong the whole time.
Speaker 1:That's British rule.
Speaker 3:But yeah, that's an island right.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Okay, nailed it.
Speaker 2:But they're part of Hong Kong. There's also mainland Hong Kong as well. Oh, it's Kowloon side, okay.
Speaker 1:Don't you remember, oh which? Is that tomorrow, so where Bruce Lee's from Tomorrow never dies.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when they go to Kowloon Bay. Yeah, yeah, tomorrow never dies.
Speaker 1:But tomorrow to the James 007 movie Tomorrow is not enough.
Speaker 3:No, no, tomorrow never dies. Is Pierce Brown. Oh that's, yeah that's what, elliot?
Speaker 1:It's the journalist. It's the evil journalist that's trying to create bullshit in the world so that he has more to write about.
Speaker 3:So your dad's Thai Chinese, your mom's not.
Speaker 2:No, my mom's Irish she's from Ireland? Well, no my mom's American but Irish descent that direction.
Speaker 1:You know how? I know I like Martin Nope. He has a couple drinks and he's gone right for the nicotine. I tell you, trust somebody.
Speaker 3:He doesn't need drinks to go straight for the nicotine.
Speaker 1:Were you a long cut guy back in the day, or?
Speaker 2:Short cut you chewed A long time ago.
Speaker 1:What a loser have you chewed Twice in my life, puked both times.
Speaker 3:Never been back.
Speaker 1:Zero. You know why I don't smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 3:Because people look down on you. Yeah, I bought a pack of Marble of.
Speaker 1:Red 100s for a high school party thinking. I was really cool and I smoked the entire pack in a hot tub and I fell out of the hot tub into a snow bank and was just so sick, never had a desire to pick up a cigarette, ever again.
Speaker 3:I did sometime after college I think, and we've got talked about this my habitual randomness of smoking a pack of cigarettes every once in a while, and we were at a bar that still had the cigarette machines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they had a lot of smoke canals, so they have camels in here.
Speaker 3:They were unfiltered camels, oh boy that's that was my favorite part about going to a. Lone Star steakhouse.
Speaker 1:Besides the rye bread you had the rye bread at Lone Star, but then they had the old school pole cigarette machine. You throw the quarters in twist it and pull.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what this was.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's.
Speaker 3:I kind of want one of those, and I believe the cigarettes were probably from the 60s that were in there. I mean, who the fuck buys them? God, it's such a weird. You're like, oh, look at this retro packaging. It's like no, they've been in there 40 years.
Speaker 1:I went to Chili's for the first time this local Chili's right here for the first time in years, and I mean years. I think I was like 12 or 13 last time I was there and now I'm 32. What am I, 32? So years and you loved it. It was amazing one but then I remember walking in. It was not amazing, jesus, come on. I remember walking in, though, and I remember left was non smoking and right was smoking.
Speaker 3:And that, thank God, all this air is between us to block the smoking from the non smoking. It's almost as good as the plexiglass between the booze for.
Speaker 1:COVID, so like no, you're not going to pick up what they have over there.
Speaker 3:Some of them like the denies and things like that. The, the boost would just be back to back Like this yeah, smoking. This booth is non smoking. You're just back to back to each other. That doesn't work. It was amazing.
Speaker 1:It was amazing.
Speaker 3:Why does my bacon taste like tobacco?
Speaker 1:By the way, do you ever watch any of these ringdinger videos? No, it. I want to go get it done, the worst way.
Speaker 3:You want to watch it? No, okay, All right. So where did you?
Speaker 2:grow up. So I grew up in Bangkok, thailand, for 18 years. No, I'm not Hong Kong.
Speaker 3:No, okay just in case anybody else is confused, I think cock Hong Kong. Let me see Two syllables.
Speaker 2:I see where you're going.
Speaker 1:Very similar Totally different, not as much. Not everyone in the world has much hidden their heart as you do, brad.
Speaker 3:Get on my level.
Speaker 1:I love the fact that you're not defending yourself right now.
Speaker 3:I tell you so you were born in Bangkok, bangkok. You went to school, through high school. Yeah, graduated okay, and then the college moved back states.
Speaker 2:well, I move to the states, yeah okay, so you're here illegally.
Speaker 3:I.
Speaker 2:Mean some. Some think that that could be the case, but no, actually hold American passport, do you hold?
Speaker 1:any? Do you hold the passport, chinese passport or?
Speaker 2:I hold a type.
Speaker 1:And is it fun just to pick which line shorter and use that passport? Yeah, that does. He's from London, so he has a US screen card and he has a London passport or, I'm sorry, uk passport, and he's just like which line shorter? How do you get to pick the lines when you go through customs? There's there's Lines depending on where you're coming from and where you're going.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, look at you world travelers. Where have you been? Nowhere. Have you ever been out of the country? Yeah, I went to Canada once.
Speaker 1:I mean that counts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, across the bridge. Yeah, michigan.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know exactly what in Detroit. Or did you go up north towards like? Is that Queens Harbor up there?
Speaker 3:I don't remember which one it is. It's a big ass bridge.
Speaker 1:It's Windsor, right, oh, it's when. Yeah, it is Windsor. Yeah, I well, when I went to gumball, that's where we crossed tell me where I've been, just seeing it, oh it's.
Speaker 3:Ireland.
Speaker 1:How do you, how do you go from I've never been anywhere to Canada to I've been Ireland. I went to Ireland, so apparently that's in the US, because it's kind of like northeast United States. How are you so smart sometimes and so fucking dumb other?
Speaker 3:times. It's just like you know. That's it. I went to Hawaii, which is weird because that's farther than a lot of places.
Speaker 1:That's like halfway to his hometown, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. When you look at it on the map you're like, oh, this is eight hours from mainland. That's a, that's a long way.
Speaker 1:It's four hours from mainland. How did they get there? They rode the boats.
Speaker 3:I think it was aliens.
Speaker 1:Oh, he worked it in, I knew it. Martin he has this thing where he has to work in aliens.
Speaker 3:I don't worry, it was severe continental drift.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a long time. The land bridge was north of that in, I mean, but if you, the land bridge was Alaska through.
Speaker 3:You know how there's? Isn't there like the little, the little bay there, like california? You know, you know, I think that's what Hawaii broke off of and just floated out talking about Baja, just floated eight hours Into the ocean.
Speaker 1:It has nothing to do with the like five active volcanoes that are directly underneath Hawaii right now. No, no, okay, just make sure.
Speaker 3:I mean Aliens. God just wanted it there.
Speaker 1:Oh, my background, he just wanted my background is uh, singapore, for whatever reason, I don't know, martin. Have you been to Singapore, martin, couple of times? It's one place I have not been and I want to go in the worst way.
Speaker 2:It's um, I don't know. It's kind of like America in Asia.
Speaker 1:Brad could definitely get his chicken strips there. I don't like chicken strips.
Speaker 3:Which? Which is the country that has the, uh, the semi dictator that kills drug addicts?
Speaker 2:Singapore. I mean Kind of I don't know, I can't remember his name. Is it Singapore?
Speaker 1:Singapore is not a country, though, to see.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of. There's a.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of there's a lot of zero tolerance drug policy over in Asia in general, though, so you could be talking about who talked about that.
Speaker 3:Tom's a girl. He has a saying about that. They have like hit squads, they'll go out. I don't know. He's like, yeah, if you, if you're all doped up and you might just Get his squad, so like when you go out to work in the morning, you better fucking wake up and look lively, because you don't want to be mistaken for it being all doped up.
Speaker 2:Funny thing, though, is that Thailand opened up with uh Legalizing marijuana, oh they did.
Speaker 1:Hmm, still no opium. But yeah, no, I don't know. I've only seen tropic thunder like 10 times. Oh, first you say you rice farmer. You say you poppy farmer. What kind of farmer? Are you Uh.
Speaker 3:It's Weird that weed was illegal right.
Speaker 1:We're that. We weed the legal where ever ever.
Speaker 2:I don't know. There's an interesting theory behind that, though. It has to do with like, well, hemp as well. Yeah, in a combination of like, knowing that hemp could be used as another product and interviewed, interfered with a different product that was already on the market.
Speaker 3:So where was? Where? Has weed always been legal anywhere? I don't know, like there's a. There's the whole hemp thing in America about, like textiles and, you know, lumber Paper yeah, all that kind of stuff and that's. Maybe that's partially true, but that wouldn't. That wouldn't explain why it's illegal everywhere.
Speaker 2:You know, I never really thought about that.
Speaker 3:It's what? Was that the Rockefeller? Was that the? Yeah? Was that what?
Speaker 2:it was. I think so was it. I had, though a direct Hemp was always a direct competitor to petroleum Lubricants.
Speaker 1:No Well, I thought hemp was always a direct competitor to the oil industry, somehow where there was byproducts of petroleum that were in direct conjunction there, and that's why big oil did not want. Yeah, legalized weed, are you saying?
Speaker 3:that big oil may have sway over entire industries.
Speaker 1:Remember when they were paying people to get rid of oil barrels, like five years ago? No, they're what. Don't you remember when the empty barrels Dude you? There was people that took warehouses full of oil for almost free. They're getting paid to do it and now they're worth Billions of dollars. Why? Because the oil futures went to shit.
Speaker 3:Five years ago. Oh, so they had to control the demand supply? Yeah, maybe, I don't know what. Is a combination well, I thought you were gonna like fill me in on this.
Speaker 1:I don't have the time to give you an economics lesson, okay.
Speaker 3:Good, because I don't have the patience to take it.
Speaker 1:No, you don't you went to school for philosophy, I went to school for economics.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I'm minored in petroleum products.
Speaker 1:Is that when you're giving your wife the back door?
Speaker 3:No, rude god, you're the worst.
Speaker 1:Martin's. Like I didn't sign up for this episode.
Speaker 3:We didn't ask Martin the beginning question, okay, hmm, uh, it's not gonna be that one, though. It's just gonna be the most, uh, insulting question that we can think of, given the person. So who's your favorite NFL team?
Speaker 2:I mean by default, are you wearing a Eagles hat. Right now I'm not wearing an Eagles hat. It's my college alma mater. It looks like a fucking Eagles hat.
Speaker 3:I know green, though, but it's a little bit. Thank you by default special edition. I just hate the Eagles because they took a super bowl away from me. Oh, from you. Yeah, the Patriots.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh.
Speaker 3:By default.
Speaker 2:I'm a Bears fan, but I don't really follow football.
Speaker 3:Why FOO?
Speaker 1:or FU.
Speaker 2:I don't follow American football religiously At all because it's just not of an interest to me. It's too slow.
Speaker 1:It's taken 18 minutes for us to get to the very point of what Brad wanted this podcast to be, which was American versus European football. Yeah, I should, I shouldn't, I shouldn't condescend it in that way. American versus world football.
Speaker 3:This is not the only thing that we want to talk to Martin about, but it is the one thing that I really want him to go on a rant on. I Just it's fun, I like it.
Speaker 2:What you like American football.
Speaker 3:Uh, no, no, not really. Uh, I did when I was.
Speaker 1:Uh, hoosier, because you're still there.
Speaker 3:Hoosier. Yeah, what's a Hoosier?
Speaker 1:I don't know Indiana basketball. Come on, jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know that, yeah, I don't even know what a Hoosier still like it's kind of like a.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like a redneck, kind of Um negative term for West End Davenporters like your Hoosier, wow oh just Anybody else you want to throw under the bus there, or I? Don't know.
Speaker 3:No, that's it. Yeah, at least be a 49ers fan.
Speaker 1:And it all goes back to oil.
Speaker 3:I thought that was gold. No, 49ers is oil.
Speaker 1:It's so much fun to have somebody that's intellectually intelligent on the podcast because we can just sit here and make fun of you 49ers the miners, Uh yeah, uh, like gold miners.
Speaker 2:Okay, there's blood. Have you ever seen that movie? There will be blood.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, I got drink I got that Dan Dan of the Lewis drink your milkshake. I drink you a milkshake. I don't remember what it's about. I remember something about a preacher and then him really liking milkshakes.
Speaker 1:So he needed, he needed the preacher that the boy preacher, because he needed the land and needed the People that were going to the church to be okay with what he was doing.
Speaker 3:So they got the cahoots together. They swindled them, they swindled each other. They swindled each other.
Speaker 1:Well, they were both like, acting like friends, but they were pitting against each other. It was really. Really. The ending scene was intense, or he's trying to kill the sun in the bowling alley Was that in the bowling alley yeah, it was the bowling alley at the end.
Speaker 3:That's all I remember.
Speaker 2:I was sad. No, check the bowling alley oil. Did you realize it's so good?
Speaker 1:Mmm. Last moheakens, I will find you.
Speaker 3:I did watch it over and over again. I did watch it over and over again. Yeah, I used to request, I think gang I used to request the gangs of New York was epic yeah, that's a good one too.
Speaker 1:John C Riley was in it King's in New York. Yeah, he was the policeman.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, I don't watch that again.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of guys in that.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm. Uh, I would request the orchestra. Uh, last of the moheakens at like school dances. I feel like, can you, you play this real banger?
Speaker 1:You're like the guy that puts like who lets the dog out five times on the ami before you walk out of a bar and just let Everyone listen. Who lets the dog out on repeat?
Speaker 3:It's just me sitting on the floor smoking a piece of pipe with a tomahawk.
Speaker 1:Is that one of you? Is that one?
Speaker 3:you knew what I'm not gonna go there, uh, but yeah. No, that was a good one. I like that one a lot. Um, what else, what else, what else, what else that was it.
Speaker 1:He was only in like three movies Day in the day, lewis.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the scarlet letter was he? In that one, the scarlet letter. We had to watch that.
Speaker 2:He's done some other things too, remember.
Speaker 3:Well, what's a little?
Speaker 2:can you?
Speaker 3:imagine people still uh Chastising and and judging people for being promiscuous in this day and age.
Speaker 2:Still imagine if we still did that.
Speaker 1:I love it, we're talking about we still deal. It's my favorite, you know this is why do you?
Speaker 3:Why do you do it?
Speaker 2:I'm Never said I did.
Speaker 1:Uh, I had this conversation. Uh, happy Thanksgiving everyone. By the way, it's the day after, uh, so my, my, like my family that's in town, all from california, uh, la, san diego. But the la family has a family friend. She's a 20 year old girl living with them and I thought you're gonna say living with daniel day loose. No, but she is supposedly dating, but not Having sex, with a 60 year old man in la. That is very, very wealthy and my cousins are appalled by it. My aunt's, like what are you gonna do? And I'm kind of in the same boat. Like she's over the age of 18. The guy's obviously a predator, but what I mean, what do you do Is is he or is?
Speaker 3:she, I think, I think.
Speaker 1:I well. Well, that's true.
Speaker 3:I think. That's where I say I think it could be mutual.
Speaker 1:I think it's mutual, then that that's where I fell on it. It's like, yeah, he likes younger people.
Speaker 3:I mean it could be neither.
Speaker 1:You kind of know where you stand in those situations, though it could be neither, because if you're, you ever talked to somebody that I mean you talked to a 20 year old. You just you're where you're at in your life. You're, you're. It's a little different. You're you kind of you're not gonna get a lot of substance out of it Not saying they don't have good ideas or thoughts or opinions, but there's not a lot of depth quite yet.
Speaker 3:Okay, so start making a list of everybody that you hate.
Speaker 2:Well there's there's not a lot of 20 or a bad child at the top of that.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's a pretty small group.
Speaker 2:That's it. That's. That's just interesting. What's interesting? The fact that she's she's 18. Is this correct? She's 20. Oh, okay, she's 20.
Speaker 1:She's 20 Um, but I think she's probably making.
Speaker 3:I should say she's making.
Speaker 1:I don't think I don't think it's taxable income at that point. It's just gifts.
Speaker 3:You know. What really works, though, is when your friends and family tell you that you shouldn't date someone that works all the time.
Speaker 1:And that was my point to my cousin though, which was like my, it's full might.
Speaker 1:My aunt is been great. She's like. I'm here to support her. I'm not condoning it, but I'm not saying anything negative, because at some point that relationship will probably end and she's going to need a guiding, lighter life. Who she's not going to run to in a time of needing safety is all the people that have been talking Mad shit to her and trying to control her for the past hour, many months. So all you can do is try to provide a safe space. Yeah, so, and my cousin? He's male and he's what. 20, 28 he doesn't understand that.
Speaker 1:He's like well, somebody just talk some sense into her. Like Tyler you're, I get what you're saying, but it's not that easy.
Speaker 3:All is fair and love and war, except huge age differences and chemical warfare.
Speaker 1:All right, you get one superpower. What is it?
Speaker 3:I breathe mustard gas.
Speaker 1:I breathe mustard gas. Really out of all them. You choose that. Do you want to paint shitty watercolors to Hitler like he didn't.
Speaker 3:He didn't breathe mustard gas. No, he hated mustard gas because he got mustard gas in World War one and that's why he didn't use chemical warfare.
Speaker 1:Oh, the fucking beacon of light. I'm not saying that, I'm just giving you a history lesson.
Speaker 2:Thanks, martin one superpower, I'd say flying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm gonna fly, mm-hmm. Yeah, oh wait, oh no, Dr Strange.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he kind of falls into a weird category because he has other things that do things for him. He's got magic, but he's Cape lets him fly. It's not even him. So he kind of gets like time travel, that's magic right. So, so I guess magic is it Magics your magic is not a skill. I'm just saying magic is your superpower. That gives you many of the superpowers that you would want. What it's, it's oh.
Speaker 3:OK, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, speaking of magic, when I was in Seattle haven't had this deck of cards since I was like 14 years old.
Speaker 2:It's a magic shop in downtown Seattle.
Speaker 1:I walked right by. I got super excited, went in, got one of my old magic decks.
Speaker 3:Weird Very excited. Another 30 year old white male going into a magic shop, surprise, yeah.
Speaker 1:Is that a common thing? It's got to be. You're not wrong, it's got to be.
Speaker 3:They got to be either 12 or 40.
Speaker 2:You're going to have a beard anomaly. They have a beard.
Speaker 1:When was the last of the Mohicans? Ninety two Age of innocence.
Speaker 3:I, so you know the he hasn't done anything since.
Speaker 1:Phantom Thread.
Speaker 2:Ah, he supposedly said that he's like semi-retired, he's done because he said it.
Speaker 1:He said method acting was getting too hard for him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's too intense. Yeah maybe don't do it. That seems logical. I feel like you'd be a method actor, though I wouldn't make more than one movie probably. I did that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if I method acted like last of the Mohicans. I would be stuck. I would just be scalping people and shooting people at 200 yards with muskets.
Speaker 1:When did Jim carry? Is it man?
Speaker 3:on the man on the moon.
Speaker 1:Is it the one he did?
Speaker 3:I haven't seen that one.
Speaker 1:And what's his? What's his?
Speaker 2:Wow, you haven't even seen it in interstellar either.
Speaker 3:No, I haven't. I watch real space things.
Speaker 1:Neil DeVast I meant Andy Koff.
Speaker 2:There's legitimate things in that they cross check a lot of that.
Speaker 1:Hmm.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of not legitimate things in it, uh-oh.
Speaker 1:What did I do? That's OK.
Speaker 3:All right. So, uh, what did you grow up playing? What did you play? Sports wise.
Speaker 2:I mean at the end of the day, I was quite blessed I was able to play baseball in Asia. I played a lot of football, soccer um played ice hockey, golfed um play basketball it is. And my in my rebellious time I did a lot of inline skating and skateboarding. No ping pong, no ping pong.
Speaker 3:Oh, this is some badminton, some badminton. I love badminton, pickleball.
Speaker 2:So then you non existent, not existent.
Speaker 1:Pickleball has been around since the 60s. Fuck, you know it hasn't, ok.
Speaker 3:Ok, let's go right now. No, so then you came back to America, went to college, majored in education literature.
Speaker 1:Education. Ok, went to be a teacher. Yes, how long?
Speaker 2:Um brick and mortar 17 years.
Speaker 1:Sounds like a long time yeah.
Speaker 3:You went to college for 17 years.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, I guess you could say like being in academia is like an extension of college, because you're always constantly learning and trying to inject different approaches of teaching and learning and trying to be contemporary, are you? I try to.
Speaker 3:Is everybody.
Speaker 2:No, what did you teach? I started off as a seventh grade science teacher and then I moved into technology, which is kind of like a broader terminology, and I guess for a job I'm in teaching and that would be to help support teachers to get other teachers and students on board with the latest and greatest technology that would help support learning. What school district I was at first at Lindmar and then I moved overseas.
Speaker 1:Good basketball, lindmar, yeah, always been a good basketball Good basketball.
Speaker 2:I'm actually during my time. I'm going on a tangent. We had one kid that was there that went to UNC.
Speaker 1:Oh, michael Jordan, Was that like 08?, 09? When?
Speaker 2:was that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, around that time I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I am, he was good. It's past Michael Jordan's time? Yeah, I think Michael.
Speaker 1:Jordan was going to divorce around that time.
Speaker 2:He was retiring. He was playing for the Wizards Washington.
Speaker 1:Wizards Player owner. He was player owner. He was kind of like Will Ferrell. And what's the basketball movie that Will Ferrell did?
Speaker 2:Super, super, super stars no.
Speaker 3:Wow, this is just a riveting semi-pro.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:Example of you guys trying to think of movies.
Speaker 1:What do you want to talk about, Brad? It's your podcast. Go for it. You know what? I actually ran the analysis the other day because I can do that. Uh-oh Brits poem. Hi, I ran the analysis the other day. Do you know how much you talk versus? I talk I 80-20. Oh shh, oh boy.
Speaker 3:See, but we flip flop that Win. So I get Great success. I'm so glad. King of the Castle, king of the Castle, oh my God, 80-20.
Speaker 2:That is so.
Speaker 3:I do 80% of the research. Okay, I'm not talking this episode.
Speaker 1:Okay, Whatever man there's. Just my family all came home. Everybody's here.
Speaker 3:We're going to pause real fast, just to let this all go through. People are bringing crates.
Speaker 1:Okay, we had a little interruption there. Family came back in. I'm hosting People. As you can tell, we were doing a movie. Pop cinema culture rewind there for a second but, Brad didn't really appreciate that we were talking about how I talk too much. Yeah, yeah, 80-20. You have a lot of good things to say. You have a lot of dumb shit, but there's a couple of nuggets of gold in there.
Speaker 3:You understand that I have to try really hard for the dumb shit, right.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:You don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think you're faking it until you make it Wow. Okay, that's why you don't want cameras. Well, that's. Because, everyone's going to see.
Speaker 3:That's why my plan's going to work, because you don't even realize it's a plan.
Speaker 1:You don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3:Go watch the show and see how brown your eyes are.
Speaker 1:My eyes are brown, yeah, full of shit. Okay, well, so Martin, school for you growing up. Obviously we're just talking about you and teaching, but you have perfect native English. Did you grow up in school with English? Did you grow up with Thai? How did you know what was the language like growing up?
Speaker 2:Gotcha. When I tell my story, people immediately don't understand where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1:This is a Midwest voice. You see what I'm talking about I completely understand it.
Speaker 2:Look at it. He's even wearing a flannel. He's easy, he's cold outside.
Speaker 1:That song got canceled. Be careful, we don't want to go off the air. This is true, true story.
Speaker 2:They tried to cancel it, but it's still here. I went to an international school, an American-based curriculum Okay.
Speaker 1:So Fahrenheit and not Celsius.
Speaker 2:I would say an amalgamation of both. I had some British teachers.
Speaker 1:I had some.
Speaker 3:Aussie teachers, you guys say the Pledge of.
Speaker 2:Allegiance no, we didn't. Did you have a theme song?
Speaker 1:We did.
Speaker 3:America, fuck yeah.
Speaker 1:England's a weird place because they're on metric but they use miles per hour still. They're there yeah.
Speaker 2:It's weird.
Speaker 3:Don't say yeah, I've been driving around England for a long time. I've never fucking been there.
Speaker 1:You went to Ireland. Almost the same, is it? Oh, they would beat you for that one.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know.
Speaker 3:The IRA is probably planning to haze it right now.
Speaker 2:It's not the same. And then, yeah, so, coming back to me, spent summers in the Chicagoland area, because that's where my mom's from. Okay, is your mom and dad still over?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So my mom and dad still live in Thailand when did they move back to Thailand after your? Dad came here 80.
Speaker 1:80? How old was your dad then? And your mom, I guess how old were we both?
Speaker 3:Good, I'm not the only one that sucks at this question.
Speaker 2:Geez, put me on the spot for that. My dad's pushing 80. My mom's 73.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they moved to the 80s. We're talking over 30, 40 years, 40-ish years ago. So, they're in their 40s. They're in their late, late, late 30s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, early 30s. My dad was late 30s, my mom was early 30s.
Speaker 1:And then are you one of how many? Two, one of two Younger or older? I'm younger, okay, you have an older sister.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 76. She's 76? Born in 76. Wow, that's better.
Speaker 3:I thought the same thing by the way, I was real quick trying to calculate math there and it was not making sense.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, oh boy.
Speaker 1:Is she stateside?
Speaker 2:Is she still in here? Yeah, she stateside.
Speaker 1:So you both came back.
Speaker 2:She's been more predominantly like America just works for her. America doesn't work for you. Just some moments where it doesn't, there's some moments where it does, oh you want to hear this what works?
Speaker 3:Let's go positive. What works? What works? Yeah, what do you like?
Speaker 2:Well, there's some pretty good systems in place. I guess an general understanding, like getting to different places, can be difficult. It just yes. It doesn't make sense that we don't have a rail, a proper rail system. That is one of my gripes as well.
Speaker 3:It's just Especially when you go overseas and it's kind of funny because we were built on the rail system Rock full Vanderbilt. Was he like a conductor, or what? Okay, never mind, I'm done.
Speaker 2:I can't I can't Vanderbilt more like overbuilt?
Speaker 3:I'm heading to Asheville, north Carolina.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I got a friend in Asheville Heading there a couple weeks, are you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're getting there.
Speaker 1:We're going to go see the what's the Vanderbilt estate down there, the Biltmore.
Speaker 3:Oh, they have pretty paint colors.
Speaker 1:Like pastel, yeah, okay Cool.
Speaker 3:They have their own line of paint colors.
Speaker 1:The Biltmore does I think so. Are they like I?
Speaker 3:can't remember who they were through.
Speaker 1:They're a through company Like associated with Back to Martin though, because you're boring, he's intellectual. Okay, jesus, we've got the rail system. It is a gripe.
Speaker 3:American football is a gripe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just. It's too overdone, it's over baked, and I mean the no relegation system in America is not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, you want to get into it. Yeah, okay, it's not good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I understand the capitalism and people buying or having the money to like Okay, I've got like X amount of billion dollars. I'm going to say that I'm going to build a team in Vegas or whatever Right. Let's say they want to build a team in Montana, for example, and they're going to put up a team there. I'm sure the Montanese would really love this. I think that's just ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous, okay.
Speaker 3:So here's a question. You have an established team, you have a fair amount of money, you have how many fucking people that play football in the United States? American football, american football, yeah, how many, how many players, how?
Speaker 1:many, or are they allowed? They're allowed, like what? 45 or 55 on a team 55 on a team right.
Speaker 2:You can't put together a winning team right, you can't put together a winning team. I just don't understand it. Why do you need 55 players? Because they get hurt all the time.
Speaker 3:Uh 55 on a team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to have offensive line, defensive line.
Speaker 3:You can have force string dude.
Speaker 2:I just don't get it.
Speaker 3:Haven't you ever seen any given Sunday?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I have seen that More of a replacements fan myself Uh. I Because. Ken Arruse is just the guy. It's actually John Wick, but Actually that's a true story too, John Wick.
Speaker 2:No, the replacements yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you sock like, I just think they should get rid of the pads, okay, and speed up the game, okay, and then it'd be okay, like you get a play clock, like, screw the play clock, get that off, okay, wait, no play clock.
Speaker 3:Why Just?
Speaker 2:keep it running. Make a move. That'd be rugby then, but you still have that stop and go part.
Speaker 3:Okay, so what about, like, the pitch clock in baseball? Like baseball's a slow sport too, and now they're trying to kind of they have to speed it up because they're losing viewership.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is purely. What they're doing now is purely to keep that sport alive.
Speaker 3:Yes, okay. So why do we love NFL so much?
Speaker 1:NFL only stops the clock towards the end in certain play. There are only certain instances that stop the clock, Otherwise it keeps running. Football and basketball, that's why the referee swings his arm wildly. When he points forward with the left arm and then swings the right arm, what's that mean? It means it keeps the clock rolling. It means we're continuing on, and then, when they wave their arms above their head, that's when it'sstop it. Yeah, it's too much Okay.
Speaker 2:It's too much Okay. You want to get rid of the pads? Get rid of the pads so that you know that you hit below the bottom 22 man roster Play both ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't have an opinion one way or the other.
Speaker 1:I don't you never really get rid of the pads. I have friends that were college football players and they're really, really smart guys, but when it comes to them stepping foot on the field they turn into the biggest dumb motherfuckers you'll ever meet, and it is they'll go ahead first. They don't. They're like we know it's dangerous, we know it's a thing, but they're like in the heat of the moment we're not like you could take all the pads off of them and they're not going to be going. This might hurt a little bit.
Speaker 3:They're like, yeah, let's bring it on. I feel like NFL is a little bit like UFC or like the Mark McGuire home run deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Where it's just like if this is what you want to see, like, let's just, let's just do this. Do you everybody juices, the everybody goes all out.
Speaker 1:It's issue that professional cycling, in my opinion, because everyone's choosing. Yeah, I agree the issue with the NFL is those guys? So rugby, everyone's like oh, nobody wears pads and rugby they're constantly emotion to your point. You're not really start stop NFL. Those guys are running for five seconds. Those guys, they are track stars for the first 50 yard.
Speaker 1:I mean they can say they for 50 yards, they can keep up with you know, they can keep up with some of the best runners in the world and they're 260, 300 pounds. That's a lot of mass coming at you. Yeah, it is aggressive. The argument is, if it didn't, if it was kind of a rotating revolving thing there, would it be as much? Start, stop. You know momentum game, but it's like rugby with the UFC. Essentially it is very much it's a combat sport.
Speaker 3:The athleticism is there for sure.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of money there.
Speaker 2:I mean it's because it's entertainment at the end of the day, but it's you know you have alignment, that's 400 pounds that can run, but my my, my, my, my, my stepdad from London.
Speaker 1:I'm a massive, massive world football fan. I probably bigger fan than I am of American football. But you know, you watch the Beckham documentary. You watch the Figo documentary on Netflix right now. Have you seen that? The sport there are? They produced a time.
Speaker 3:Must be nice to have time to watch TV. Guys Figo the.
Speaker 1:Figo documentary is unbelievable. By the way, it's it's if you've never been to Spain, but when you go to Spain you've been to both places. It's really kind of drives at home.
Speaker 3:This is so much more fun than I anticipated 80, 20, right, but uh not to their, their.
Speaker 1:It is. There are so many clubs and so many teams in the world, and then it always boils down to is it La Liga? Is it Syria? Ah, is it Premiership? Is it Boondisliga, is it? You know what's the league? And they also, I mean they can go anywhere they want. I mean shit, beckham came to the MLS, you know, uh it, there's almost an overabundance at times which it's like what is the definitive, what is the league? And that's what they're trying to do right now. That's what AC Mollons are attempting to do with their. They're trying to do the um, they're trying to do the Champions League on steroids, which is like the well they've tried it in the past right With like the super league type thing.
Speaker 1:And that's that's that's what AC Mollons trying to put together right now, because then you get away and nobody I mean the clubs want it, because it'll, it'll cement them into into a situation, but then there's FA Cup, then there's Premiership.
Speaker 1:I mean, well, there's FA Cup, then there's Champions League, then there's I mean, there's all these other side games. It's side quests. It's kind of fun, you got, you're going for the league, but then you're kind of going for the side quests. The NBA is doing that this year, though. Are they going out to? Are they going out to the world now?
Speaker 2:I don't know what the NBA is doing is that they actually have a in in NBA tournament. So not only are you going for the, the title at the end, you know, with the playoffs, but they actually have an in in tournament in the NBA.
Speaker 1:Really, yeah, I did not know like a bracket play yeah.
Speaker 2:So you go to the nation? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh wow, they're doing like a March Madness.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But, yeah.
Speaker 3:The NBA is so boring.
Speaker 1:I cannot stand NBA. I love college basketball. I love basketball Like college basketball is pretty good.
Speaker 2:I was actually watched it yesterday. I was just like actually it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 3:College sports in general are more interesting to watch Not soccer, it's just not there, but baseball, like I've watched college baseball If you've been in Omaha.
Speaker 2:you've been in the college world series I think those kids should be hitting with the wood bat, though I don't.
Speaker 3:I agree with that. There's high schoolers hitting with wood bats now they should just be wood bats. And they still get them out, but the especially baseball.
Speaker 1:It's not every sport, but the college baseball players that make it to college baseball, their bodies are at the same shape and size they're going to be by the time they get to the MLB. There's not a lot of development, because that's in no yeah.
Speaker 3:They could drink more beer.
Speaker 1:No, Geez, all right, now we're going to go to the old school Phillies clubhouse.
Speaker 3:What I mean. It's something.
Speaker 1:Mark Wood over there used to drink a case of beer before the game.
Speaker 3:And I mean I'm just saying pictures don't have to run a lot, I do think.
Speaker 2:MLB was savage. They should have kids just play wood bat. Once they get to a point where they can actually hit, make contact on the ball consistently after you know, using the aluminum bats or whatever they're using now. They should switch over.
Speaker 3:I just think that you should get to put teams together, and baseball is the easiest one to do it because they're set up in leagues already, as you know single A, double A, triple A, like. You already have that, that system there.
Speaker 2:Oh, are you talking about like, yeah, let's stay?
Speaker 3:together and in Europe. Yeah, oh, we talked about this. Yeah, yeah, like set up like English football style.
Speaker 1:The NFL.
Speaker 3:No baseball.
Speaker 1:Baseball yeah, oh you, because they had the infrastructure. The infrastructure is already there with the.
Speaker 3:FA Cup we also. All you do is is make everything independent again.
Speaker 1:So there's no, which is how it used to be, and there's no farm systems. Yeah, no farm system.
Speaker 3:And have at it, because then you you're giving guys a shot instead of you know what that doesn't allow you to do, though. I don't know. Monopolize boredom.
Speaker 1:It's. It doesn't allow you to put the movie theater, the shopping malls, the theme parks all in one area, because you know consistently people are going to come to this year after year. Because if your team's in, you know in one A, nobody's come into that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I think the other, I think the other thing and somebody. I saw a clip on this the other day when they were talking about English football or whatever they're like, no matter what the game is, if you're watching world football and a goal is scored, a goal is scored. It is infinitely more exciting than any home run, three point shot, touchdown, anything it's just, it's just better.
Speaker 1:I saw four goals at Camp Nou when I was in Barcelona and it was every goal you thought was the work. Like you're saying, it was a World Series game or a Super Bowl game, but every goal the night or it was 103,000 people, I think, is that stadium or something like that. Yeah, and it was just. You could feel the stadium shaking, yeah, but people are so like.
Speaker 3:People will say I'm like. You'll say I'm a Bears fan. You know I'm not a. I'm not a diehard Bears fan, whatever, but I'm a Bears fan. You don't even watch the games, right?
Speaker 2:And then people do watch the games.
Speaker 3:They're like they're cheering, you know whatever, but we're. We're watching a Premier League game on the weekends and fucking just screaming at the TV. Yeah. And it's better than people are screaming in the stadiums at NFL games.
Speaker 1:That's because you have a problem.
Speaker 3:But it's worldwide. Everybody has that problem. Yeah, everyone's got that.
Speaker 1:Why don't you tell the world and when I say the world, are 50 people that download this podcast. You're well. When did you become? When did you become a food to both fan? How many years ago, Like one? Yeah, this is my favorite part about you, and you, just you're all in.
Speaker 1:I do you never had to experience this? They got games everywhere on TV. Now I remember going to the obscure channels when I was in middle school and high school at random times at night, trying to just pick up a replay of what was played.
Speaker 3:Oh, you had table as a kid. That must have been nice. Yeah, what was that?
Speaker 2:I see Tansa yeah.
Speaker 3:So it was. We talked about this a little bit, but the Phoenix was got really into it and he had always been.
Speaker 1:You sure you weren't one of those like aggressive parents that like pushed the kid that way because you fell in love with it? I didn't. I didn't love it. Okay, you sound like one of those, Are you?
Speaker 3:are you a tiger? I didn't love it. I coached him in rec. You a tiger, mom? I coach no Tiger, brad no.
Speaker 1:Brad Tiger, I don't I know we're going to bring Phoenix on this podcast?
Speaker 3:I'm going to ask him, independently of you. I have video of, or like some I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, and I'm going to ask him or like some, some photos or something. It's him and like you six, you seven, something like that. You know, in the rec program he just he's being like a six or seven year old, he's just like digging around. I was just watching because I wasn't coaching at that time.
Speaker 1:It is a culture. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3:And then he got into it and so I think sometime around COVID, the coach that we now coach with, and so we're kind of assistance now. So it's Kurt. He didn't coach that year and we didn't really have a season, but we kind of did some stuff. And so I kind of was just like I'll help out whatever you know, whatever I can, and then kind of just started getting a little bit more into it.
Speaker 3:And then when Corbin started up and decided that he really wanted to do something, that's when I had to decide that I actually had to learn how to coach this thing for real, which means that I have to learn something about it.
Speaker 1:So you watched Green Street Hooligans one time.
Speaker 3:No, I haven't seen Green Street Hooligans yet You've never seen them.
Speaker 1:No, now I know what I'm getting you for Christmas, yeah.
Speaker 3:Let's call this episode what Brad hasn't done. It's really easy, yeah, that list is long, I'm gonna start telling Mark. So, anyways, when?
Speaker 1:we're gonna do this and not when, like, and you're gonna be like what's up, I'm like nothing, we're not podcasting, and you're gonna see like five episodes go out.
Speaker 3:Like what it's fine, it's fine. So then I think, we were at a meeting one night for soccer and I started asking Martin about like what's, how do I play a seven on seven? And then he just starts going hey, you get this, this, and then you circle around here, and then they can do this. And then I was like oh okay, so I knew there was a lot.
Speaker 1:It's a chess match.
Speaker 3:I knew there was a lot happening. It's a chess match, more than what I was aware of, and then I think the second time we really talked about it was when I quit drinking the night.
Speaker 1:Which time?
Speaker 3:The night before I quit drinking. Which time this was on a pedal pub, god, I don't know, oh, he has to.
Speaker 2:How many times I've heard about it.
Speaker 3:You may, he's a pedal pub. How? Many times I've heard Brad talk about it. You were.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you were on the pedal pub. Yes, where'd you guys go? Downtown Denver Ike's.
Speaker 2:They don't do that anymore because of Brad.
Speaker 1:They're not a lot. Well, they were never allowed to drink on the thing.
Speaker 3:They're not. That would have been smart. Yeah, it was not, it was not, I don't know. But yeah, at the end of the night he's doing this thing again. And I was just like there was so much shit that I I mean obviously my baseline was zero about what I knew, as most Americans are About it Mm-hmm, I mean not just the game, just in terms of coaching. And so then I kind of started down that road and then started watching. He was like, oh, watch this, watch this. And so I started watching the Amazon.
Speaker 3:Yeah it was a big mistake. I should have never told him yeah, he loves it. The what? What are they? All or nothings on Amazons. They're different series, so they've done some rugby ones. They have a bunch of football ones.
Speaker 1:They did the all blacks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they did the all blacks, so they've done some different things on that, so I went through and started watching some of those and Did you watch Southampton till I die?
Speaker 2:On Netflix.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's good.
Speaker 1:I mean, but that's, and that's what I talk about.
Speaker 3:No, that was Sunderland, oh sorry.
Speaker 1:Sunderland until I die. But it's a culture, it is in the DNA.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:And that's, I think, my favorite. I think I've got to experience some very cool things in my life. One of them is Humblebrag, understanding how deeply rooted this is. I've been in London with my stepdad and his family for England games that are World Cup qualifier or, or we were over for the European Championship one time Just and the it. You can just feel it in the air, no matter where you're at in town, ever you can. There's before the game. There's there's excitement, but there's also trepidation. There's anxiety and you can just tell.
Speaker 3:You know, the thing in the US that probably has the closest atmosphere to it Hunger games, hockey.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:That's what I would guess, because hockey fans are fucking there for it.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 3:It's team. It's the chirping outside the stadium to the opposing fans.
Speaker 1:They've been the redhead stepchild in American sports forever, and so it is very much like an underground kind of. But that's punk culture, if you will. It's got a little bit of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, honestly, I think that's the, because everything else is just it feels superficial. And you know basketball, baseball, like you have fans that kind of go back and forth to each other but you don't separate the fans.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's another degree.
Speaker 3:No, you guys can only sit in this corner. You're not allowed to intermingle.
Speaker 2:And you don't have a total hero. And nobody else does that. You don't have a total hero. That's literally saying fuck you.
Speaker 1:They don't have sheets or like they don't have the massive claws over sections where you're like we won't sit 2000 fans in our stadium because we can't have them next to each other, because fights are going to break out.
Speaker 1:And I mean I've been to many games over in England and Ben would be like we're not going down, that we're not going down that alley and if we get separated you stay with the people in red, like it is very much what's the Dr Seuss book, where it's the stars and not star Right, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:No, I feel like that's it, toast down.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's a very war two thing yeah.
Speaker 3:It's war two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what it sounds like it is. What is it, dr Seuss? So I was watching. It's not the sneeze I was watching these, the sneeze, yeah.
Speaker 3:The Sneaches, the Sneaches.
Speaker 1:The Sneaches gets Sneaches. Yeah, pretty much, but Ben was like you do not. This is the protocol, for we're getting separated. This is where we go, we're not going to play this game.
Speaker 3:So I started watching all of those things and just trying to figure out a little bit about teams and cultures and that was some insight that previously hadn't been exposed like that, really through series like that, I don't think.
Speaker 2:I mean no, you're exactly right. I mean there's.
Speaker 3:You don't just get to go into the walk rooms and hear what the coaches are saying and things like that. So I watched several of those and then the last one I watched was the Arsenal one Biggest mistake in my life. And so McKellar Teta comes on there and I'm like I know that guy. I know that guy because I'd watched the man city one, which was a previous series, when he was the assistant coach there.
Speaker 1:And I was a big Arson of Anga fan Arson yeah.
Speaker 3:And just so. It's kind of him setting up this team that he's newly taken over and some of the struggles that you have to encounter in the environment and attitude that he wanted to create in the club. And so it's. It's not a small club, it's a big club, but he's trying to get it back on track. As to this is, this is the vibe that we're going to take.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, in terms of how we play and how we interact with fans and and all of that, and the, the relationship that he took with his players was something that kind of resonated with me. So then that was, I don't know, early, late 20, 21, early 2022, something like that. So then 22, 23 was my first Premier League season that I watched and I was like you know what I'm, I'm in with Arsenal, I like, I like, I think he's going to do something.
Speaker 1:You've been talking to us this whole time.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I agree, so rude I can't believe you're in our.
Speaker 3:So and my team is doing great and meanwhile, like the, you know the mothership.
Speaker 1:Who's Martin?
Speaker 3:Manchester United is just fucking going down the tubes. I'm a Manchester United fan as well. Well good for you guys.
Speaker 1:Sir Alex Ferguson.
Speaker 3:Not there anymore.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I like how you're laughing.
Speaker 3:You're so young, so he does. So he had a. He had a rough time. I Arsenal starts out phenomenal last year and it's just Martin going. There's a. It's a long season, it's a long, it's just still go down. It's still to go downhill. There's a lot of, a lot of games left to play, you know. And so now when, when they're in like the middle of the table, I was like you know, it's a long season. You guys got a lot of chance to come back, work your way back.
Speaker 1:So who is the? Who is the? Who is the Eastern? He was the Eastern European, or Burbacab Burbacab when he, it was him and Ronaldo going after the goal title. This was back in like oh nine 10, when they're there. When he was playing at Manu, he was a goal scorer. He was a leader at a slay for Spurs. No, I'm talking about who is the Eastern European that played at Manu? Well, there's.
Speaker 2:Burbacab yeah, and, but when Burbacab came on, he was not there. When Ronaldo was there.
Speaker 3:I saw to Madrid. I saw an example of child abuse the other day. In what way Somebody had a Tottenham hat on their child. No, it wasn't Burbacab.
Speaker 1:It was. Oh yeah, no, it was to meet your Burbacab. You're right. Sorry, he was the goal scorer that year. He's Bulgarian.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, so the thing that I do like about soccer is that they're from everywhere. Players are from everywhere.
Speaker 2:Well, one could argue on on this episode that you know, nfl players are from everywhere, but they're all American at the end of the day. Right, I mean, you've got, you've, you've a few like okay, so you've got a couple of NFL players that are but it Australian, that are doing their, their kickers. Yeah, you know in that regard, but I think, at the end of the day, that's what makes soccer. It's a complete, unique beast in its way, because they're pulling all these players, because they're scouting from all over the globe, because it's so accessible. Right, football is not accessible. This is my argument. It's not accessible because you have to buy the freaking pads and then that's just what it tears everything down. All you need is a pair of boots, that's it. Do you need your pads?
Speaker 3:I think soccer is interesting because you can play it at a young age without a high level of skill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can play with flip flops. That's what I grew up doing.
Speaker 3:I didn't say like you have to have $200 cleats, so with you, take six year olds and put them in a basketball game, you know like you got 10 foot hoops and you can't travel and you can't double dribble. Well, that game sucks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they can't do it.
Speaker 3:They can't do it Right. And same thing with, like baseballs like that and footballs like that.
Speaker 2:So what are the? What do they make the sports like that?
Speaker 3:I don't have a problem with them making the sports like that. I have a problem with them making it competitive at such a young age without kids having the ability to have that skill. Like, yeah, they don't have that skill, there's six Right. So that's, my niece plays basketball and so for the past year or two, like those games are ruthless, like second grade girls basketball. So like, yeah, cause they, they don't know, they can't dribble.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And they can't shoot, so they're the ones that win, are super aggressive, to the point where it becomes a little bit more like, you know, a rugby match than a basketball game. So it's like, yeah, they shouldn't be playing that competitive of a game. It should be slowed down and stopped and broken up and, you know, allow them to learn to perform some of the skills Like well, the ball gets stolen from her. Every time it's like, yeah, cause she can't dribble, she can't dribble, she doesn't know how to protect the ball. It's easy to take the ball away, you know, whereas in soccer it's like, yeah, nobody can dribble, but everybody can take the ball away and it's really hard to score a goal. So it seems a little bit more even overall, I guess.
Speaker 2:I think there's just too many more technical aspects in American sports. Maybe I'm. Soccer is technical. Once you get upper, once you understand the game and how to manipulate the game, it can get just unbelievable, but I do.
Speaker 3:I do feel like if you have somebody that is a seven year old and they're, they're very athletic, like they can be pretty decent at baseball. They can be pretty decent at basketball, you know, like if they can catch up, they can throw decent. You know, I feel like everybody sucks at soccer at seven If, let's say, they're just starting out Okay, you didn't suck at soccer, fuck you. I can see that. Look on your face.
Speaker 2:I was brought up on your time. I was a prodigy. I was a prodigy.
Speaker 1:How'd you end up in Oregon?
Speaker 2:My wife, my wife.
Speaker 1:How Wife? How many kids Two.
Speaker 3:Both desperate to play NFL.
Speaker 1:That makes me happy. I like one.
Speaker 2:I like one life.
Speaker 1:Just kicks you in the face Life finds a way they like enough. They like, they like American football.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:Do they know what it?
Speaker 3:is.
Speaker 2:These I mean my youngest is like this is too slow. How old are your kids? I got an eighth grader and a fifth grader.
Speaker 1:Eighth grader and fifth grader yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's. I don't even know NFL teams at this point. I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't really tell you. I enjoy sports, but I do not make it.
Speaker 1:The only, the only effort I really make to watch sports is golf. I mean, like from being honest.
Speaker 3:That's fine.
Speaker 1:What I enjoy about golf is that, by all intents and purposes, the greatest golfers in the world.
Speaker 2:When we're talking about physicality, aren't the greatest golfers in the world.
Speaker 1:The greatest golfers in the world, tiger Woods. And people will tell you like does he have a good swing? Yeah, is it the best swinging they've ever seen? No, is his. Is he more physically superior than anyone else in anyone given category? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1:The difference with Tiger was he. His dad raised him to think that he was God on earth and he hit every shot like he was God on earth. He did. I mean, he just he'd have a bad shot and it was kind of like and to bring up a really bad sports analogy, because I, you know you guys don't want to talk about American football but Brett Favre, through so many interceptions, but he didn't care, he'd sling the football down the field and if he threw an interception it was. It was Ted Lasso. I'm a goldfish, don't care, I'm going to go down next play or next drive and I'm going to sling one right down the field the same way I did last time and it's probably going to work. And that was Tiger. He'd hit a bad shot and go watch me fix this and you are all going to be odd and that's you could say to some degree. But he, finally, he finally. Well, it's talkers the same way, like you could be a very quiet player.
Speaker 2:So, like Ibrahimovic, it's going to be very quiet. I mean, now he's retired, but very quiet in the game and all of a sudden, oh, he just scored. He didn't do anything for 85 minutes and all of a sudden scores.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but in youth sports you can see that where you have very talented, very athletic kids and when they're used to winning they're used to doing well and when it doesn't go well, they lose their mind.
Speaker 2:And they.
Speaker 3:This is unfair, this isn't right, this isn't whatever, and their next instinct is to every sport, though they say that it's not retaliating and they make a mistake.
Speaker 1:That's what you do when you're down. It's not what you do in your head. Yeah, I think life in general, though.
Speaker 3:I think that's something that's coming around in the football aspect of okay, we got scored on, you know, the managers are now like all right, let's go, let's, we're not going to drop that. Let's get our heads back in it and play our game, yeah, until you're five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Five, Five, yeah. Well, yeah, we're three deep.
Speaker 1:It's like oh oh boy, Ben Ben always said is his, the worst place to be is two up.
Speaker 2:He's like yeah, he goes to two.
Speaker 1:Two nil is the worst he goes because all it takes is one goal for you to start feeling doubt.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then all of a sudden, and you do, you see it, you'll see teams up to zero, all the time One goal and then it just flips. By the way, World Cup Championship or the World Cup final game was, I think, one of my favorite games to watch.
Speaker 3:Well, I watched it with my mom and mother-in-law.
Speaker 1:And they probably understood nothing.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I have video of just going off. Yeah, yeah, Neither. Neither one of them like big football fans, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean, they obviously watch their grandkids and stuff like that and they're learning about it and getting into it, and even that last 20 minutes was the most ridiculous amazing.
Speaker 3:I have. I started taking video because I was getting so worked up. I know I was just enjoying the moment of them getting so worked up. That was it the penalty, or I?
Speaker 1:mean there was something the save was unbelievable.
Speaker 3:There was something in there where just they stand up off the couch and then something happens and they're like fuck, I was just dying, you know. But it's.
Speaker 1:That was a good game for the US. That needs a lot of energy like that, like big moments and not necessarily watching the chess match being played. I think that was good for your or world football as a whole.
Speaker 3:I think a lot of well, same thing, like when Messi came over or whatever, and whatever it takes to get people to start watching, they get excited about it. But there's video that Shannon took of when Phoenix was down in Morton doing the soccer tournament down there and she thought she was videotaping just the very end of the game and they ended up. She ended up getting the third goal. So we were like two, one and ended up going up one more Damn, and it was just the sidelines. You know, all all the grandmas over there were just just jumping up and down and screaming and this is for 13 year old kids, you know. So it's, it's exciting, I mean have, you have, you have.
Speaker 1:We've talked about this. Have you watched the Tour de France documentary yet on Netflix? Bikes.
Speaker 2:But bikes are interesting.
Speaker 1:It's. I please, because we talk about you, talk about football or your world football. It is, it's chess match, it's. I'm gonna slowly start working certain areas to try to create as Martin says, it is a.
Speaker 3:It's a continuous test.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm and that is testing but that is testing, but that is an experiment. That but and that is, that is what cycling is While you're hitting your, while you're pegging your heart rate for three and a half four hours and Making your legs endure some of the hardest physicality, and not just but. Then you have to be thinking straight. I mean, it's one thing to do something and just be like I can brute-strength through this, right it's. And it's another thing to be testing your physical limitations while trying to stay cognizant of what your role and Responsibility is in that moment. And that's what those cyclists do. And they, granted, they have walkie-talkies, they have team coaches, they're all working together as a unit.
Speaker 1:But yeah, they still have to be able to perform and think.
Speaker 3:Whatever, you're doing something at a very high level. After I stopped climbing, when I was back here, the only thing climbing ones, twos like one, yeah, one, yeah, like ones. Yeah, I'm one, just one. Basically, a little belay, it's a little fucking sidewalk.
Speaker 1:I know, yeah, just a little belay, little top rope action. Good for you, buddy, proud of you, thank you.
Speaker 3:She learned learn to tie not to you, obviously, are not a climber, because they don't belittle each other. Good job, right, thanks, hmm.
Speaker 1:Do you want to go grab my harness right now?
Speaker 3:It's out in the garage. That's not a climbing harness.
Speaker 2:Okay, Do you proper carabiner, steve? I do too.
Speaker 3:No, I got black. I use key chains, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Those are my favorite. They're like I got this carabiner from this water bottle. They're like good luck. Yeah they're just O-rings, whatever, you see that little hairline fracture right there. You don't want that. Okay, continue don't even know okay, the next thing was cams, right out there good for you, okay, good for you.
Speaker 3:Recline was suppressor salon. No, that was fake. Oh no, that was actually real Tom.
Speaker 1:It was Tom cruise mission. Possible too Was that real.
Speaker 3:No no, brad Pitt, angelina Jolie.
Speaker 1:Mr Mrs Smith. Yeah, that was real. Hmm fake, those real fake. They put her up on a little like a little cart.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I think it was all CGI. Hmm, mountain biking was an ex-closest thing, the climbing For me.
Speaker 1:You mountain bike.
Speaker 3:I used to hmm at a very, very, very low level, but it is the. You're moving fast, it's a physical action, but your Mental space needs to be spot-on Because because you're always thinking, just like climbing, it's a puzzle that you're solving if you're looking at the next move you're screwed you have to be looking.
Speaker 1:Three to eight steps ahead of you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So with with mountain biking, as you, as you build speed, where you look for glory you look is where you're going. Yes, so if you're.
Speaker 1:If you're looking right in front of you, you're gonna be.
Speaker 2:You're fucked yeah that's see, that's my argument with American football is like, okay, they scored it on somebody, go back and score on them. It's like I. My argument with with soccer is like you can have those pre meditative or preemptive strikes if you will Set in in the team camp already before they. They go on the pitch Like we're gonna eat up 15 minutes. Just make sure no goals scored, because you know clock is running, or Grind it down, grind it all the way down and then it's your job to figure out how to score in 10 minutes left. Okay, I don't. I don't feel that in American football.
Speaker 3:I mean, I feel running the clock out.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean, I just don't feel it.
Speaker 3:There's a. You almost think that it American football should be a lot tighter games Overall because you have time in between every single time to think, scoring every single time.
Speaker 2:That's my argument.
Speaker 3:So if you look at, and so my brother-in-law coaches with me for Corbin steam and I'll send him some clips, and he played soccer, you know. But now I'm kind of more into like professional soccer than he is, and so I'll send him clips and he's just so he understands the technicality and the difficulty of it, whereas I, until very recently, never kicked a soccer ball ever.
Speaker 1:So it's, it's it seems a fun thing in the world to watch.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, have you seen a blade?
Speaker 1:No, did you ever play indoor with us?
Speaker 3:I don't play. I never played anything.
Speaker 1:They not playing the bond team with us? No, oh man, you know why, cuz you're probably like oh Martin, would Martin would really probably just be disappointed in us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. Well, that's why I said there my kids YouTube videos.
Speaker 1:I can't fucking do this. That's another story.
Speaker 3:That was, that was my eight-year-old can do things that I can't do.
Speaker 1:That was pure brute force. It was amazing. We got asked not to come back, martin. We won the league. We won the indoor league twice. So it was a bunch of. It was a bunch of through what it was cross with bond, through meat heads. It was. No no no, it was our, it was the gym that, brad, nice to belong to, and we put together a team the only people that played besides Ben were the females.
Speaker 1:It was a coat. It was a co-ed league. I think it was 8v8. I think it was four males, for I think it was indoor. I think it was eight. I think it was eight versus eight. It was four females and four males. Okay, had to be on the court at the same time.
Speaker 1:I're on the pitch at the same time. Sorry, yeah, oh, oh. B was only if you went over the over the play. It was. It was basically. It was a. It was an old hockey rink, sure, so it was if you went over that was the only way it was OB, otherwise you got to use the wall.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, we were faster, bigger and stronger than everyone and and if it would have been an open field We'd have been so screwed. All the other teams had way more finesse and feel than we did. Yeah, but we were faster, we were stronger and I remember watching Jake Kimmel with the ball with his foot three times and still score a goal because he was that much farther ahead of somebody.
Speaker 1:We just we and we like, and the other teams were all good soccer players or football players and they were getting so mad that they couldn't beat us because they we had no skill. But they couldn't like what boxing out like we just keep our arm here, they weren't getting in. It was like you're not, you're not gonna touch the ball, I'm sorry You're not gonna be able to do it, and yeah. And then Tony got absolutely hammered one night and then the goal they tried to the goalie from the other team tried to start a fight with him.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then Jake Priest came out of the goal and then the guy like looked at his team and looked at our team and everyone Our team was like ripping shirts off, ready to go, and the goalie went back to the goal, put his gloves back on. You want a Donnie Brooke? It was. I was just like what is going on? I think a fight's gonna break out at 10 o'clock on a Sunday night over Wreckley soccer Happens yeah been there.
Speaker 3:Yeah 12? U tournament we almost had and sidelines cleared yeah, oh god, not ours. Like the fansides too, that was a tournament.
Speaker 1:I think the worst part about this one, though, is Ben Ben scored a goal from three-quarters back. I mean, it was, it was, it was more, it was he was. He was behind the halfway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why do?
Speaker 1:you want to know he'd shipped him. Yeah, it was. It was in the first three minutes salt. And then the goalie was getting mad at us Tort later. And then Ben was like, why don't you worry about saving goals? And then that's when it was like, oh no, so that's not good. So my, my stepdad played semi-pro over in England and that was.
Speaker 3:That was the other Thing I was talking about. At one point I was like what's your? You know what club do you follow? It was Charlie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what. That's my team on the Charlie. I'm a trolling guy. Yeah, I'm chosen athletic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's fucking great.
Speaker 1:Great.
Speaker 3:Good, you guys know everything.
Speaker 1:I'm actually amazed how little you know. I don't know anything. I'm giving you a two-minute warning by the way, we've got two minutes two minutes, Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Well, all right. So Martin Martin wasn't born in Hong Kong. It's been established world football is better than American football.
Speaker 1:He is more gray hair than I thought an Asian would have.
Speaker 3:Don't, don't, we didn't, we didn't oh wow, we didn't even get there.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I didn't realize it was that much. I thought it was just salt and pepper on the sides.
Speaker 3:No, he's a year younger than me. How do you Younger, older than him? I don't, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, um. I still don't, but you just turn 40, though.
Speaker 3:No, it was your for yeah, I just turned 40, 41, was that it?
Speaker 1:was that your cove it Well what was that?
Speaker 3:I just turned 40. What was that party that you had? Yeah, it was 40.
Speaker 1:What was that? How old are you Sure?
Speaker 2:Okay, come on, brad.
Speaker 1:Look it up, google, he's 42, 42. No, I'm not, so you're 41. Mm-hmm, when did the gray start setting in for you? Mm-hmm, I'm. I keep my sides really short because this is all good, it's pretty much all gray, and I'm waiting for the big reveal. I can't wait.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1:Can't wait to be the silver Fox.
Speaker 3:No, that's fun. It's more fun when you don't have a receding hairline.
Speaker 1:So I have a receding hairline. Yeah, he's got fishes V.
Speaker 2:It's got the wheels peak yours is.
Speaker 1:Yours has 10 years on us, yours way more aggressive.
Speaker 3:I have also started treating mine so thank you for pointing out all of my flaws during this podcast. This was been amazing. Yeah, we're all gonna go to Turkey together. What Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Turkey has the best hair. What, yeah, they do?
Speaker 2:plugs, plugs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's not like what you think of plugs. It's a total hot glue. No, they take, they. They take the roots from other parts of your body and then they really inject them in and then it actually takes it. It's amazing. When I flew through Turkey to come back home, there was a bunch of people on our flight that had obviously just gotten hair jobs.
Speaker 2:Really, we're gonna do a Stewart Holden's where we notice. You know this.
Speaker 3:Never been to Turkey.
Speaker 2:Have you been to Turkey? No, but I know that. Okay, where do you go?
Speaker 3:Okay, well, thank you.
Speaker 2:We can all go to cool airport. It's cool. They were stupid easy, all right.
Speaker 3:Last thoughts, brad no.
Speaker 1:Why cuz Martin last thoughts, sorry for your dragon, you and those podcasts which is totally gonna get terribly probably. That's not true. They're gonna fire me.
Speaker 3:In a future episode we'll talk about something important.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have my friend Luke come on the podcast. He's a d-back. He played in college for football.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is being good.
Speaker 1:And it's and he's he's not a huge like it's funny, he he's people be like oh man, sports he's like I played college football and you're not gonna get anything out of me. And sports he's like I don't follow it, I don't do any of it. But Every once in a while I get a little bit of drip information from him. And the way he talks about defense is you would think it is your chest master. I mean, he can get some intricate things about, like okay, I'm four inches this way because I'm trying to lead this guy that way, but actually I want him to come back because my buddy's gonna start skirting in around break. So there is a little bit of that which I think would be fun to kind of discuss, which I think there's probably a lot of overlap.
Speaker 3:There's the time thing, the time thing, it's a time thing, it's a star stop. But it's two different, two different styles again.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean speaking of time. So we're out of it, we're out of it. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Are we sure?
Speaker 3:Yeah, dylan's got to go to.
Speaker 1:Hog roast. So we got a whole hog Roasting for us right now, but we're gonna go do that.
Speaker 3:Where at Crow Valley Is it like on a green under the green? No, they put it in the ground.
Speaker 1:They have one of those Cuban boxes like the big, the big wooden metal 10 boxes that they so it's like a scar. It's gonna be like 70. It's gonna be like 70 pounds. It's called a we're gonna do this real fast Cuban pig. It's called a Cuban box no, it's look it up, urban Dictionary code Urban Dictionary. It's a cat. The bodies at the floor. It's a kaha la kaha China model. It's one of these actually I saw actually I'm almost positive that it is a Chinese Descent. The the origins of the box, so shop.
Speaker 3:Latin touch.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So what they do is they put the. We put the pig in the box and then you put the coals on top of the tin and then it. Anyway, all right gang, I'm sorry for that. I'm sure you're all really loving us right now. Bye, say bye Brad, bye Brad.
Speaker 2:You're still here. It's over, go home go.