Terribly Unoblivious

Hot Takes - Genuine Concern or Just Lip Service

January 12, 2024 Brad Child & Dylan Steil Episode 10
Hot Takes - Genuine Concern or Just Lip Service
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Terribly Unoblivious
Hot Takes - Genuine Concern or Just Lip Service
Jan 12, 2024 Episode 10
Brad Child & Dylan Steil

Are you ready to confront the uncomfortable truth about what it means to truly care? Join us, your daring duo Brad and Dylan, as we tear apart the facade of 'caring' and thrust into the chasm between words and action. This isn't your average chinwag; we're dissecting the real impact of 'thoughts and prayers,' questioning whether words without deeds are as hollow as a drum. We're lighting a match under the assumptions of empathy and sympathy, and we won't shy away from exposing the contradictions that arise when verbal expressions of concern are not met with tangible support or intervention. 

Dive headfirst into this fiery discourse as we reveal how genuine caring is more than just a sentiment—it's a responsibility. We don't just toss around hot takes; we dissect them with the precision of a brain surgeon. Without a hint of mercy, we challenge you to explore what actions, or lack thereof, follow your declarations of concern. Prepare to be stirred, perhaps even provoked, as we lay bare the responsibilities of caring and why it's high time we all did more than just talk the talk. No guest speakers, just Brad, Dylan, and a whole lot of candid truths you'll be mulling over long after the episode ends.

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Are you ready to confront the uncomfortable truth about what it means to truly care? Join us, your daring duo Brad and Dylan, as we tear apart the facade of 'caring' and thrust into the chasm between words and action. This isn't your average chinwag; we're dissecting the real impact of 'thoughts and prayers,' questioning whether words without deeds are as hollow as a drum. We're lighting a match under the assumptions of empathy and sympathy, and we won't shy away from exposing the contradictions that arise when verbal expressions of concern are not met with tangible support or intervention. 

Dive headfirst into this fiery discourse as we reveal how genuine caring is more than just a sentiment—it's a responsibility. We don't just toss around hot takes; we dissect them with the precision of a brain surgeon. Without a hint of mercy, we challenge you to explore what actions, or lack thereof, follow your declarations of concern. Prepare to be stirred, perhaps even provoked, as we lay bare the responsibilities of caring and why it's high time we all did more than just talk the talk. No guest speakers, just Brad, Dylan, and a whole lot of candid truths you'll be mulling over long after the episode ends.

Speaker 1:

On a desolate, frozen tundra surrounded by mindless, brain numbing cold takes, two bros trek through the nothingness to bring hope to a new generation. You are about to experience brad and dylan's hot takes. Here we go again Again. I hate it so much.

Speaker 2:

Well, what's today's episode about? Brad?

Speaker 1:

Hate.

Speaker 2:

So you've heard us use the term Hot takes. I don't have the voice over queued up yet, so we made it up.

Speaker 1:

We made it up. No one else has done this.

Speaker 2:

We've used the terms a couple times Nobody else's, nobody does this, nobody does this. So we started doing, thinking, talking, laughing about our hot takes and the the long list. It's almost like the what's, what's the, what was the book in mean girls, the the bash book never saw mean girls you never saw mean girls. It wasn't the bash book, what was it Anyway? Um, we're gonna start doing some friday half an hour 45. No, it's more like the oh.

Speaker 1:

What was the? Reese Witherspoon, her ex husband Cruel intentions. Or when he comes out like he dies. Spoiler alert.

Speaker 2:

You got a lead with that. You don't spoiler alert. Don't end with the spoiler.

Speaker 1:

Sorry guys If you haven't seen a movie. That's 30 years old now and he he had a whole journal full of hot takes. It was really just truths, I think.

Speaker 2:

What is it? White lies and black truths. It's like just just dangerous truths. Just because their truth doesn't mean they're not dangerous. Yeah, yeah, okay, hot takes it's true. So Brad wanted to go long format, short format. Long format on the five minute version, but short format on the episode version.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2:

It means our hot takes inside of our normal episodes. We're only like two or three minutes and we're gonna go a little bit longer.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's that, it's. Yeah, we would think of something and then you would say it's up topic, you can't talk about that. It's not what I said. That's what you sound like, though.

Speaker 2:

You're right Nailed it, nailed it, so it's our. I don't even know what's our hot takes today, brad.

Speaker 1:

Well, we can do multiple ones.

Speaker 2:

Let's just pick a number and go.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna. I'm gonna start with caring doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:

Okay, wow. I don't expect that a little bit We've talked about. We've talked about empathy and sympathy a lot lately.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, is it really? Caring doesn't matters, caring doesn't. You can care about something. People this, this is the hot take. People say they care about stuff and then they do jack shit to have any effect on it. Yeah thoughts and prayers thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 2:

Do you have a specific story analogy?

Speaker 1:

Oh, there's a lot of there's a lots of of things I suppose. So caring care I care about. I care about improvement. Here's, let's, let's ball of wax it with coaching.

Speaker 2:

You care.

Speaker 1:

I care about all of my kids improving. That's my statement, and then my Game plan is to do fuck all to back that up. I care about everyone improving, but I'm gonna do jack shit to make sure that anything facilitates that. Yeah, but you can't blame me, because I care.

Speaker 2:

Conflating caring with action.

Speaker 1:

That's the problem.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I see where you're going with this. So it's not people like to end the statement. I care, end statement, or they like it's full stop.

Speaker 1:

It's really important to me.

Speaker 2:

I care a lot about it but there's no action on the backside.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's not saying that every time somebody makes a statement like I care deeply about this, that is true. That's not the case. But it is a bit hypocritical when you say I care about something and then you do nothing to facilitate improving or doing anything about what you actually care about. Or you say you care about. And sometimes caring about something means hating something, it's like saying I care about my kids but I refuse to let them sleep inside my house or feed them.

Speaker 2:

That sounds like a great budgetary plan.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, greatness is forged in hardships.

Speaker 2:

Pretty tricky little kids figured out to make a tent real fast. They're a little stick shack We'll lean to.

Speaker 1:

OK. So here's another thing. If you conflating caring about something versus caring about the outcome, that's a different. That's a different deal too. So, in sports terms, I care about these kids improving in said sport when in reality it is. I care about getting upset when you guys suck. That's how I'm going to show my emotion.

Speaker 2:

But I'm not going to do anything to make you suck less. Yes, yeah, you want to start naming names, or we just want to risk it?

Speaker 1:

No, no no, no, not naming names.

Speaker 2:

So hot take.

Speaker 1:

Because it happens a lot and we all I mean we're all culpable of doing this in some respect.

Speaker 2:

I care about my cat, but I let her go for weeks at an end. She's a cat though, yeah, I know.

Speaker 1:

She's self-sufficient.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

She knows where the food's at. She knows how to work the faucet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she flushes the toilet. No, she doesn't have thumbs, greg.

Speaker 1:

She doesn't need thumbs to flush the toilet, just meet the parents.

Speaker 2:

Come on, got it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I got nipples, greg.

Speaker 2:

Can you milk me?

Speaker 1:

So yeah.

Speaker 2:

Caring is sharing.

Speaker 1:

Sharing what? Oh, that's what you say when you have drugs and you want them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah OK.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that makes sense in that.

Speaker 2:

I think they're called vitamins.

Speaker 1:

Now that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Also, caring is sharing in terms of knowledge, like and you mean, it's not cool to keep all the proprietary information to yourself, to try to make yourself more valuable to the next person next to you or to the person next to you. That was redundant, sorry, not if you say you care about that person's improvement.

Speaker 1:

I only give enough knowledge to the person next to me to help improve me. What? There is a line somewhere that you can definitely cross where you give them too much. Right, we talked about that way back in range where you don't give them everything, you've got to allow them to struggle. So here's a little example.

Speaker 1:

Last night, we were out at dinner and Shannon and that half of Margarita and Phoenix was talking about a Mr Beast video where he was in solitary confinement for seven days. Oh yeah, that one popped up in my feed, but I don't watch him, and so I was kind of inquiring about that a little bit and he was talking about how they know human interaction.

Speaker 1:

They have like a conveyor belt system for food trays and things like that. And I said, ok, so what is different about his situation versus real solitary confinement? And he's like what do you mean? He's in solitary confinement, he doesn't get any human interaction, it's the same thing. Ok, what about his situation is different? And from across the table, shannon goes because he knows he's going to get out. And I was like you shut up, this was not directed at you, this is for his tiny mind to think and process. And congratulations, shannon, we've now made Phoenix dumber.

Speaker 2:

So happy about it. She was so proud of herself.

Speaker 1:

And I was like, hey, shh, shut up, she starts laughing. And I was like, yes, that's number one, that's number one. I go what else that? He wasn't in a real jail. And I go, wait what? He goes, it was a set. I go. He wasn't in a real jail even. And he goes no, they made up a set, he goes. It looked just like a real jail. I was like, are you shitting me? I go OK, so now we have three things, so that's in the top three. And then we went into the how you are talking to a camera, so it's not really solitary confinement.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah they made it look like it, but I don't think jail is. Yeah, jail is not a padded room. No, why do they have the insane asylum? Not usually.

Speaker 1:

Now he did say, because they had to talk to a shrink, because this psychiatrist right there. Oh yeah, the typical psychiatrist. Look, that makes more sense that it's that it's in a padded room. Yeah like that, because that can like the, the noise muffling in silence.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

That can cause some psychiatric problems.

Speaker 2:

Some people call that solitary confinement. I call that heaven.

Speaker 1:

Mmm-hmm. Oh, look at me. I'm all by myself with a bunch of cameras, but he does have nothing to do and he's in an orange jumpsuit, which is weird.

Speaker 2:

So but he has 228 million subscribers. Yeah, and he's had 90 million views seven days ago. We're. We're struggling after months and months and months to get 1,000 downloads. We're. How many do we even have? Right now? We're way off that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, hot, take number two. Hot, take number two. Wait, do you have one?

Speaker 2:

No, you love everything, mmm. Yeah, that's not true.

Speaker 1:

I'd yeah, hot, take. Dylan is afraid to speak his mind because he doesn't want to upset other people.

Speaker 2:

No, you're absolutely right. Absolutely right. I've been, I've been, I was, I've been. I Don't know how to put this in a kind way so that my parents don't hate me. I was trained to always be polite and Think about others around me first, before my own feelings. So, yes, I have a tendency to To mask at times, which is ironic because we have this podcast about Trying to grow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and another one. I was thinking on the way here. Like you have to be willing to upset the Apple cart to To grow, you meaning me or you in general. No, you and you as a universal me and the ether. Not you specifically.

Speaker 2:

I feel like you're directing this at me.

Speaker 1:

No. I'm not being able to speak to your True feelings.

Speaker 2:

I speak to my true feelings. I don't like to who?

Speaker 1:

Annie okay, yeah, I think that she responds with you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I.

Speaker 2:

Heard a really funny joke, but I don't think I can put it on the air.

Speaker 1:

It's like the Goodwill hunting scene which one where wills like I have friends and he's like, yeah, they're all fucking dead guys in books from 200 years ago. He's like you don't actually talk to anybody.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know, it's a little sad when you think about it that way. Mmm, it's kind of how I think about you. You're just a two-way dead guy. That's my hot take. My hot take, as Brad is 200 year old, that guy.

Speaker 1:

And God has sent you here to test me. I like that. I like that. I'm gonna write a book about that. It's like meet mr Black, meet Joe black.

Speaker 2:

Mr Like Tuesdays with Maury. No, what was that about I? Don't know there's like an old guy that somebody went over to his house and then Shannon knows that one. Yeah, it was a really popular thing back in early 2000s, late 90s, I don't know, is it Tuesdays with Maury?

Speaker 1:

Isn't that just Maury Povic, telling people if they're pregnant or not?

Speaker 2:

Maybe Tuesdays with Maury. Originally titled that fallen old man and young man life's greatest lesson is a 97mm by American author Mitch Alvin about a series of this album. Did he write flowers for Alginon? I don't know, man. We've already lost all of our viewership at this point. Zero. Okay, I was gonna look up how much mr Beast makes. Nobody cares. I care, he reinvests everything, though I know, that's why he makes so much. This is okay.

Speaker 2:

This is a hot take. People spend so much time figuring out how to extract value from people around them, and this can be in any in any sense of the word. It could be monetary, it can be social value, it can be whatever it is, but the people that you see the most successful, for the most part, put the most out without asking for anything in return and that, just over time, creates natural value for them, creating value for others. They're not just trying to grab it and grab it and grab it. They're, they're putting content out, they're putting whatever you, they're investing more in the people around them, and then everyone sees them as authentic because it's like oh, it's yes, obviously they're getting wealthier, they're getting something out of this, but they're giving more than they're taking back.

Speaker 2:

And that's something I think is admirable about mr Beast is he does, he takes everything he has. He's like all right, we're gonna go do something more epic and better and provide more value for our viewers, because they're the reason I'm here now. Is there a lot of fringe benefit? That goes along with that? Absolutely. But somebody took the race. Can somebody Done it? And he started doing that very early on, when he was only making I shouldn't say only, but you know a couple hundred thousand dollars you. He starts reinvesting all of that. There's a chance you don't make that back and yes, that's good money, but it's it's not set up for the rest of your life money and you Make the wrong investment.

Speaker 1:

So he he's a little bit like feeding the machine, except the feeding the machine part of it is what drives him. Yeah like that. It's not. Most people feed the machine in terms of, like, growing a business and everything that you add to it.

Speaker 1:

So you have to add vehicles and you have to add people and you have to add workspace and you have to add tools of whatever kind, and then you have to chase the money to come in to feed, to feed all of that right. And for him, the, the feeding, it is like his, his addiction. Yeah like Making new content is is what he cares about. Obviously he wants to make good content, so the money comes in, but then he takes that money and puts it back into new content again. So if you obviously his net worth is, it's.

Speaker 2:

Something is he making 30 some million dot.

Speaker 1:

But when someone Recently, I think within the last year, had offered to buy Basically buy his brand and he priced it at? What? Was it like $2 billion? I believe that, or something like that. Yeah and it was $54 million last year. And someone was like how do you get to, how do you get $2 billion out of that? Like that's not what his net worth is 20 multiple. Well, no that's but, but he goes. That's the price that someone would have to give me for me to give up. Yeah, making my own stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because at that point somebody else is gonna have. That's what the price is that?

Speaker 1:

Here's the limit. If you give me this much, then okay I'll. I'll find something else to do. I'll create something else new, but anything less than that. I like doing this thing too much to get that. So that's kind of interesting. Shannon's a little bit like that on the opposite side.

Speaker 2:

Extracting value before she gives value. Yes, okay.

Speaker 1:

In the sense that she keeps asking when is this podcast gonna make money?

Speaker 2:

Ooh, and I keep telling her it's not, it's probably never going to make money, it's not, it's not gonna happen, that's not how it works. No, very no. She's not gonna be asking for money yet.

Speaker 1:

And I don't know if she's gonna keep putting me. Come over here and play podcast.

Speaker 2:

We'll set up a fake bank account and we'll make numbers go up.

Speaker 1:

It's just gonna be a notepad that I write on. Look it, it's in the black. It's in the black 19 to 20s account.

Speaker 2:

You can't take it though because we're investing Big-ass general ledger book pulled out of a dusty shelf. This is again this is just information for you to be in, the 200 year old dead man.

Speaker 1:

I gave her an investing idea. Okay, so tell me if you've ever heard of this Tax lien certificates.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You've heard of that, oh yeah. So a lot of people don't know about him. A guy that I used to do work for when he was in college he had a I don't know if it was a, it was some law class or something like that professor and this professor would pick a handful of students and, as a like assignment type thing or something, apprenticeship, I don't know what the fuck they called it.

Speaker 2:

He was growing that he would. No, okay, no, wrong movie.

Speaker 1:

No, what movie was that? Was that? Oh, that was Rounders. Yeah, no, it wasn't. No, it wasn't.

Speaker 1:

He would have them go to the courthouse and they would pull up tax documents. And what they're looking for are people that have not paid their property taxes for the year. But then the research includes going back and finding out if they typically pay their taxes. So are they perpetually late, do they? Or are they just not paying in general? Or have they always paid on time and then suddenly they haven't paid for some reason?

Speaker 1:

So a tax lien is when you, as an individual, pay the state for that person's property taxes and then you get a tax lien certificate and, depending on what state you're in, you get a percentage back from the state once the actual homeowner pays that right. So now you've paid their taxes. Now in order to get rid of that lien, the homeowner has to pay the state plus a percentage rate, right, and then the state pays you back. So you get in Illinois, I think, it's like 18 to 20%. So if you find someone that doesn't want liens on their houses and they typically pay their taxes, okay, it could be a week, it could be a month, and they pay you back. You get 20% on whatever you paid for their taxes. If they choose to never pay their taxes, then they cannot sell their house.

Speaker 2:

That's how a lien works.

Speaker 1:

And then eventually you could foreclose on the house for the cost of one year of taxes essentially and Shayna goes, that sounds like a long time to get your money.

Speaker 2:

She should just stay in the education system. Is she gonna listen to this episode and get mad at me?

Speaker 1:

No, okay, but it's like, yeah, return on your money is there's this thing called a time horizon.

Speaker 2:

Typically, typically, the short term doesn't have a very high growth rate, no, and if it does, it's extremely risky and more illegal.

Speaker 1:

That's why this is kind of a unique thing, because 20% if you're doing your homework properly, 20% in a year, that's good growth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's extremely For your return. I mean, what's an average?

Speaker 1:

your return five to eight. If you're in like a safe portfolio A safe portfolio.

Speaker 2:

I mean, the market's been weird since post-08,09 because we've had such an influx of quantitative easing and other things. So the government's kind of propped up the market. But yeah, I guess we've seen pretty consistent double-digit returns. But five to 7%, it's pretty happy, pretty happy. 7% you're double your money after seven years. So if you get 7% you're gonna get a double-digit return that year over year for seven years you've doubled your money. So that's kind of why when people start off and this is my favorite, this is my hot take young kids that think they're stock market gurus are not.

Speaker 2:

I have a finance degree. I don't even pretend to think that I know 5% of what the financial market's doing at given time horizon. And the best thing you can do is go buy index funds. Index funds are extremely cheap and they're not sexy. They don't grow very fast. But there's a reason that when you're 55 years old and you started stuffing money away in your early 20s that oh, I've got a couple million dollars just sitting there and then I didn't do anything. I just let it grow, just let it go. Don't actively invest your money. How bad, not all of it, some of it.

Speaker 1:

Is the real estate market gonna go when only a handful of people own a shitload of real estate? Yeah, I started watching this guy on TikTok. He's like, well, time to go to TikTok for some financial advice. And then he goes to one of these stupid gurus and he goes you want to know the best way to invest your money? I was like, yeah, he goes, buy a house, ok, and don't pay the mortgage on it. He's like, okay, buy a house, don't pay the mortgage on it, don't live in it, okay. And then go buy 10 more houses. He goes, okay, so I buy a house I can't pay the mortgage on it. I'm gonna go buy 10 more houses that I can't pay the mortgage. How is this working? And I get it from their perspective, because they probably had enough capital that they could just get a loan. And then you're renting houses.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, you're technically not paying the mortgage and then. But he's just like that's not fucking how it works for regular people. Another guy said why are you even wasting your time? It's faster to make $1 million than it is to make $100,000. And the guy goes but you fucking numbers go like you have to make a hundred first before you. Like what do you talk it? Goes back to what does that even?

Speaker 2:

mean yeah Well, they're all trying to give views because of music so hot take.

Speaker 1:

don't take your financial advice from TikTok.

Speaker 2:

No. Shannon will agree with me on that. There's some good ones out there I see every once in a while.

Speaker 1:

but they're not the famous ones.

Speaker 2:

They're not the famous ones and it's not it's not ever a, it's not ever a video clip. It's somebody that took the time to write something intelligent and then like, like they did, like an eight part series of. We have to call it X now it's not Twitter anymore, right?

Speaker 1:

Nobody gives a shit. Hot take. Elon Musk is a fucking douche. I love him, though, no.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm still thinking about it. Okay.

Speaker 2:

But they'll take the time to do like an eight part series which will be like or taxes, and it'll talk about kind of, you know, if you have kids, you can. These are the easiest ways to get tax breaks with kids. You can pay them, you can do other things up into a certain point they can be, you know whatever it is. But again, they're not famous people and they're took the time to write something intelligent and not just trying to click All that shit is complicated.

Speaker 2:

Do you ever read tax code? It doesn't make sense. No, you're like wait, what? No, I don't. Yeah, you got to pay this, unless you're for this. But then go read this code over here now. You're like what, what, so what?

Speaker 1:

am I supposed to pay, like you don't know? Here's another great one that I saw Don't buy or rent, don't buy or lease a car. And the guy's like okay, so what are my other options? And then the guy goes instead buy a car for $5,000. And he goes, oh, okay, so we're buying a car. Yeah, okay, buy a car and then drive it into the ground. He's like okay, $5,000 car, drive it into the ground, no maintenance, no, it just you know. Okay, that's I like that. And then sell the car for $5,000 and drive it for free. Okay, let's wait. What, what, what just happened? How do I sell the car for $5,000? I just drove into the ground and then drive it for free.

Speaker 2:

It's funny and it's. I can't believe it, cause these aren't even fictitious stories. These are people that actually talk this way. Yeah, who's the guy that wills himself not to get sick?

Speaker 1:

Oh, Chris Cronos.

Speaker 2:

Chris Cronos, is that his name?

Speaker 1:

He drives me insane dude.

Speaker 2:

He had. Brad sent me a hot take the other day, a clip, hot clip. We'll call it a hot clip about this guy that it's bad when you, as a normal person, wake up and you get a sniffle, what's the first thing? You think? You think you're getting sick, so you will yourself to getting sick. He goes, I wake up with a sniffle and I go not today, and I don't get sick.

Speaker 1:

I am whole and within an hour and a half I feel normal.

Speaker 2:

He's like, oh, okay, he's also the guy that does four hours of mental meditation or some he does mutual meditation with his wife where they align each other's chakras?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, hold on. Yeah, I don't know. I gotta find his name cause I keep forgetting it on purpose.

Speaker 2:

I feel like how do you forget on purpose? I feel like that would make it.

Speaker 1:

I hate him so much that I forget him, so I don't have to think about it. I think that's what it is, Chris. Chris KKR.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we've looked him up, that one. Yeah, do you want to do it. You want to do your DeSantis hot take.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, but I, when we were recording some intros for this, which I think you guys are gonna fucking love.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or better at stage material than live material, if you don't hot take, nobody cares.

Speaker 1:

So I'm going through my notebook and Where's it?

Speaker 2:

Brad just randomly writes, but he won't share it with the world.

Speaker 1:

No, I just.

Speaker 2:

Hot take. Brad doesn't actually want the people to know who he is.

Speaker 1:

I go under a different name when. I write Okay.

Speaker 2:

Steely Dan.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's already taken your right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I go back and I read through my notes. I do this with my old journal sometimes, except in a different way. So when I'm when I'm going through my old journals, I'm like oh, wow that was actually not a terrible insight. And when I'm going through my notes, did you just give yourself props? Yeah, wow, yeah, I do that, I love myself. And then when I'm going through these notes, I write ridiculous shit.

Speaker 2:

I start calling you Haley Steinfeld. Why Did you hear that song? That's no.

Speaker 1:

So what I like to do is record a quote from from an actual person so this is a real quote. And then I give them a fake little biographical note on the bottom so this is a real quote. The woke class wants to teach kids to hate each other, rather than teaching them how to read. True quote by Ron DeSantis, trailing Republican presidential nominee right now, and really talk about a fall from grace. He, please, please, tell me how he was in grace.

Speaker 2:

I don't, I just mean a year or 18 months ago, though he was talked so highly about and not saying across the nation, but it from the political sphere it was. That guy has probably what it's going to take to become the Republican nominee and biographical note Ron DeSantis Closeted heel.

Speaker 1:

lift supporter.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's right. And a banner of books, that's right, he's got lifts.

Speaker 1:

He's got big lifts yeah.

Speaker 2:

What was that Seinfeld episode when?

Speaker 1:

I don't watch Seinfeld.

Speaker 2:

I don't do it. That's Hailey Steinfeld Love myself, love myself. I do love myself. Yeah, this is your new theme song, your anthem.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna have to hear it first.

Speaker 2:

Anytime you have a hot take, I'm gonna hit that Please don't.

Speaker 1:

Anytime you have a hot take, you're gonna hit the sound button.

Speaker 2:

Which one? The air horn.

Speaker 1:

No, we're gonna make one.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm feeling bad feeling about this.

Speaker 1:

It's gonna be like oh yeah, no, no. So yeah, there's a little bit of that in there. I had another one, I'm gonna save it though.

Speaker 2:

You're gonna save it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

We got. We're at 31 minute. 32 minutes on our first hot take Too late. Yeah, we told them we'd keep this 30, 35.

Speaker 1:

I was hoping for 10 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm, I can't do 10. Yeah, you can. No, don't tell me what I can't do, okay.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna go get some heel lifts. Imagine thinking that that's the one thing that voters want, that you needed in order to just put you over the edge to become president. People just think I'm a little bit taller To ban books and then talk about illiteracy. Yeah, or that too. That's kind of funny.

Speaker 2:

Do you know? What would be even funnier is if he recycled the books he banned and created the lifts out of them. It's just him walking, walking on some transsexual books that can take so many different directions.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's just him walking around and be like what do you got down there? Oh, you're walking around on Animal Farm, Is that what's George Orwell's propping you up these days?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that'd be actually interesting Episode to do would be a 1989. 1984. 84. Sorry, I was thinking about T-Swift, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Same, same thing. It is same that book. Is that messed me up? I think.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, as bad as 2001,. Space Odyssey, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't watch that.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I only certain Kubrick movies. Yeah he, there's a limit. Yeah, he's a wild dude, hot take.

Speaker 2:

Hmm.

Speaker 1:

Requiem for a Dream could send you into a mental illness spiral.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I bet that's what Kubrick tries to do. I think Kubrick intentionally tries to elicit.

Speaker 1:

That's not Kubrick at all. I know you're right. I don't know who did that one, I just know Wayne's brother was in it, jared Leto was in it.

Speaker 2:

Well, Jared Leto has a cult.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah, we should do an episode on that, by the way. No, what's his band? 30 Seconds to Mars. 30 Seconds to Mars.

Speaker 2:

Look at that, though. He's got all women dressed in white following him, as he's in a white robe just walking down.

Speaker 1:

Look at him like Jesus in tennis shoes. Yep, yeah, hot, take Ready Mm-hmm. Jesus was not white.

Speaker 2:

Oh no. He was not, yeah, no, oh yeah, it does. Mm-hmm, I remember because I went to Catholic school. I remember being in religion class, did you? I went to? The whole time I went to Lorde's till fifth grade.

Speaker 1:

Where's your high school?

Speaker 2:

I went to middle school. I bet everyone public in sixth grade, yeah. But I think fifth grade is where they started kind of introducing some of the what I would call White Jesus no, the more Tan Jesus, I would say darker side of religion. And I say that in a weird sense where, the more real, you know, kind of there's consequences, there's. It wasn't just the storytelling or like the Jesuits style of, yeah, but then I mean they basically they kind of opened, they were starting to open you up to more than just the Noah's Ark, the origin and Genesis and kind of all the fun whimsy stories. And Adam and Eve was fun and whimsy in third grade, as weird as that sounds.

Speaker 2:

Then they started, the stories started to get a little bit, you know, more real as you got older. Like, okay, well, you know how we introduce these two characters to you in third grade. Well, now, maybe they did something bad. You're like what, what? You didn't want to leave the garden. That wasn't how that was supposed to happen. Anyway, there was a whole section on world Catholicism and it was, you know, in China. They had Jesus that looked Chinese. They had, you know, and basically anywhere you were in the world, your Jesus looked like your people and it's. Yeah, there was a whole and that was really.

Speaker 1:

That was really weird for me, but something to be said about that as a fifth grader as a fifth grader that was really weird for me.

Speaker 2:

I was like no, I have white Jesus, I only want white Jesus. And then you get older and you go no, he was from the Middle East, wasn't he? So you know he's yeah.

Speaker 1:

And he's just had aviators on.

Speaker 2:

Little did I know. I was listening to 30 Seconds to Mars in fifth grade. It was just Jared Leto the whole time. Jared Leto, the whole time.

Speaker 1:

God, he got me, Got me again Such a good actor.

Speaker 2:

Maybe we should put Jared Leto on our website as one of our coos. He just doesn't know it.

Speaker 1:

He's got some looks, though. I'm looking right now, he looks that one, he looks like Jesus, that one, he looks like Conor McGregor, that one, he looks like Charles Manson. Oh, this one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, manson, scary.

Speaker 2:

This is like a I don't know. I don't know how I like any of this. I don't like that. I don't like that.

Speaker 1:

I wanted to like them. Their music and concerts are really something. And then they did a documentary on their like, exposing the record industry.

Speaker 2:

How much money and how much.

Speaker 1:

Like how much artists get fucked.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And big, big artists and oh, we can't do it.

Speaker 2:

We're at 38 minutes. We'll do the next episode.

Speaker 1:

Save it God, such a good one.

Speaker 2:

All right, guys. We're sorry. Dylan's going to have to play dad here and wrap this up.

Speaker 1:

Peace be with you. Peace be with you and also with you, Dick.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Glory B.

Speaker 1:

You're still here. It's over.

Speaker 2:

Go home.

Speaker 1:

Go.