Terribly Unoblivious

Hot Takes - Skeletor and Social Discourse

January 26, 2024 Brad Child & Dylan Steil Episode 14
Hot Takes - Skeletor and Social Discourse
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Terribly Unoblivious
Hot Takes - Skeletor and Social Discourse
Jan 26, 2024 Episode 14
Brad Child & Dylan Steil

Ever found yourself in a heated debate about the pros and cons of social media? Well, strap in as we navigate the murky waters of online networks and their effects on society. We kick things off by breathing life into conversations on health beliefs, conspiracy theories, and the reminiscences of historical political elections. Then, with a wink and a nudge, we'll take a playful jab at climate change discourse and flat earth enthusiasts. And for those who can't resist the appeal of online shopping versus local stores, we tackle the convenience of purchasing eyewear in the digital age, all the while keeping our tongue firmly in cheek.

But it's not all jest and jabs; this episode takes a magnifying glass to the intricacies of information dissemination in the post-COVID economy. We channel our inner Sherlock Holmes, with a tip of the hat to Matt Taibbi and the Twitter files, to unravel the mysteries behind corporate profit margins amidst rising costs. In the spotlight is the potential dark side of financial maneuvers like stock buybacks—prepare to have your mind opened and your beliefs challenged.

Lastly, we're calling all sports fans and Saturday morning cartoon aficionados for a trip down memory lane and onto the field. Experience the highs and lows of football with Arsenal's latest feats and Crystal Palace fans' fervent protests, all while examining the bond between club owners and their communities. And don't miss our lighthearted look back at the gender-neutral undertones of 80s cartoons—because who doesn't need a good chuckle over a 'Prism Head' reference? Join us for an episode that's as much a lively debate as it is a nostalgic embrace of our childhood heroes.

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Ever found yourself in a heated debate about the pros and cons of social media? Well, strap in as we navigate the murky waters of online networks and their effects on society. We kick things off by breathing life into conversations on health beliefs, conspiracy theories, and the reminiscences of historical political elections. Then, with a wink and a nudge, we'll take a playful jab at climate change discourse and flat earth enthusiasts. And for those who can't resist the appeal of online shopping versus local stores, we tackle the convenience of purchasing eyewear in the digital age, all the while keeping our tongue firmly in cheek.

But it's not all jest and jabs; this episode takes a magnifying glass to the intricacies of information dissemination in the post-COVID economy. We channel our inner Sherlock Holmes, with a tip of the hat to Matt Taibbi and the Twitter files, to unravel the mysteries behind corporate profit margins amidst rising costs. In the spotlight is the potential dark side of financial maneuvers like stock buybacks—prepare to have your mind opened and your beliefs challenged.

Lastly, we're calling all sports fans and Saturday morning cartoon aficionados for a trip down memory lane and onto the field. Experience the highs and lows of football with Arsenal's latest feats and Crystal Palace fans' fervent protests, all while examining the bond between club owners and their communities. And don't miss our lighthearted look back at the gender-neutral undertones of 80s cartoons—because who doesn't need a good chuckle over a 'Prism Head' reference? Join us for an episode that's as much a lively debate as it is a nostalgic embrace of our childhood heroes.

Brad:

On a desolate, frozen tundra surrounded by mindless, brain numbing cold takes, two bros trek through the nothingness to bring hope to a new generation. You are about to experience brad and dylan's hot takes.

Dylan:

Here we go again, again. You want to know the story behind the song. I wonder how fast we're gonna get trademarked for playing this.

Brad:

It's a good quit it.

Dylan:

We're recording hot takes, episode three.

Brad:

Why do you do that?

Dylan:

We can just cut the first part.

Brad:

There's more work for you stay in alive.

Dylan:

You stay in alive, brad, barely, I was gonna say you've been.

Brad:

I'm back from the dead.

Dylan:

Talk to me about it.

Brad:

Head cold. I got a head cold. I have coven.

Dylan:

Did you have coven?

Brad:

Yeah, I got coven.

Dylan:

Why don't you get exposed to coven?

Brad:

You didn't tell me yet, coven um and, like our former president, I have a bad case of syphilis. So you can see by, my hands are all red, they're all red syphilis gate.

Dylan:

Yeah, I think it was stormy daniels.

Brad:

No Interesting. I wonder how long it's been. That is, it is a syphilis gate right I I don't know.

Dylan:

I've seen a little bit of controversy.

Brad:

I have seen a picture and, uh, not not really confirmed that somebody didn't take a picture and draw a magic marker on it.

Dylan:

I don't know this leads us into the next topic.

Brad:

Or the hot take, my hot take Okay.

Dylan:

Go, go, I'm sorry, go, I lost social media. Okay, connecting or isolating?

Brad:

No, social media is great. Okay, yeah, it's making the world easy take just like way better.

Dylan:

It's more like a lukewarm take, cold take Nah.

Brad:

I love it, I like it, I like it. I think it's all. I think it's all good. I think little kids should have it. I definitely think 90 year olds should have it.

Dylan:

I want to know what the closest presidential races in history were. And then think about it. If we go back in time, gore, even before it was the chad. Hey, hanging chad, I understand. I know a little bit about florida. I have some ties to it. I don't want to talk about it.

Brad:

What you don't like chads, you don't like are we talking?

Dylan:

Are we talking? Are we talking about the bro hanging out in his own country in africa, or are we talking about no?

Brad:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no no. No, we're talking about the little, the little paper things off the ballots. Yeah, yeah it, that was a thing.

Dylan:

I understand that punch card voting.

Brad:

It's not a very it's not a very good system, but it did give al gore a good introduction in the following years. I'm al gore and I was supposed to be your next president.

Dylan:

Didn't he win an academy award for a documentary that maybe didn't have all their facts straight?

Brad:

Yeah, and I don't even know about global warming anymore because I've been on tiktok lately.

Dylan:

It's not global warming, it's climate change.

Brad:

Yeah, but it's getting warmer.

Dylan:

Yeah, yeah, it definitely is.

Brad:

Unless you don't believe in it, then it's not getting warmer and also the earth is flat again. I'm getting convinced.

Dylan:

Which one, that it's getting colder, warmer, or the flatness?

Brad:

Yeah, just all of it all of it. It's cold on the outside, it's warm on the inside, but not in the way that you think of it as a sphere. It's cold on the outside like a plate, because it's an ice wall. Okay and the middle is warm because it's tropical.

Dylan:

So it's baked.

Brad:

Alaska, it's no Alaska is like closer to the ice wall Baked.

Dylan:

Alaska. I don't know what that is. You you bake ice cream but you have a shell on it. That's protective, doesn't even make sense.

Brad:

Okay, it doesn't melt. No, how do they fry ice cream? Like right you know.

Dylan:

I understand fried ice cream, I don't okay.

Brad:

I'll get it.

Dylan:

You want to watch a youtube video on?

Brad:

it no. Can I take ice cream and put it in my air fryer?

Dylan:

I feel like with good results, feel like you're kind of a hot cream, hot sugary cream, okay, maybe custard.

Brad:

Can we? Can we change the name of this Friday episodes to hot cream instead of hot takes?

Dylan:

All in favor, raise your hand, say aye. Any raises all four eyes, even her non-existent thumbs, oh yeah what are those called?

Brad:

What are the ones that have the extras?

Dylan:

Hemingway cats.

Brad:

Yes, you're correct.

Dylan:

Thank you, it's one of my favorite biological term, but no, but it is the it's the slang term. Yeah, yeah.

Brad:

So you don't like social media?

Dylan:

I didn't say I don't like social media. Oh, I was just questioning Does it bring us closer together to divide us?

Brad:

That's not how hot takes work. That's not how it works. Okay, the hot take is like your glasses. Look fucking dumb.

Dylan:

They do, though they're starting to get old, a little dirty, scratched up.

Brad:

It's been a few years, I didn't. I'm not saying that's true, I'm just saying that's or be Parker.

Dylan:

Maybe you want to sponsor this podcast. You get me a pair.

Brad:

I don't like mine either, and I just got them.

Dylan:

From where? From the?

Brad:

eye doctor.

Dylan:

Hmm, what do you? First problem? I'm not. You're paying insurance prices for the eye doctor.

Brad:

Okay, right, yeah, where do you get yours? I like the lowest parking lot or be parked drunk.

Dylan:

Go online cost like 99 dollars I don't buy anything online. Okay, philson man.

Brad:

What. You gotta go to the store. What's wrong with going to the store?

Dylan:

Support local, speaking of local. Got those duck fat carmels right over there that you don't have in your possession.

Brad:

I've never had one.

Dylan:

You've never had one.

Brad:

Nope, are they really made out of duck fat?

Dylan:

Yeah, are they? Yeah, it's not just it and it does. It has a savory, has a savory taste of duck fat, a renewable resource.

Brad:

Like do they extract the fat? They they kill the bird. Oh shit, all right. Well, no, I feel bad.

Dylan:

Why duck populations are good Just are they support your local ducks on?

Brad:

lemma. Yeah, but you got to kill like five ducks to make one a little caramel. I See this is the problem with social media. Yeah, yeah.

Dylan:

I see where you're going with this. I like what you're doing.

Brad:

I was just listening to this before I came here.

Dylan:

I like what you're doing.

Brad:

I was listening to a podcast about uh, mainstream, the, the old school ways, the, the newspapers and the investigative reporters and how things took so long to fact check and everything is so expensive. So when you get into investigative journalism it might take years to flush out a story, to get interviews, to get people to go on records, to go back through documents seems socially responsible. It does, and now you have Just instant opinions. Trial by opinion yes.

Brad:

Hmm which is fine. As long as you take them as opinions, I think, uh, so yeah, I mean it is. It is nice in the sense that Some things can get disseminated easily disseminated or disseminated disseminated. Okay, yeah. Also also through social media. I think you can get inseminated easier dating apps. Yeah, it's good, yeah, it's good, I think that's a thing. Um, I'm gonna come up with a new one a new dating app.

Brad:

Yeah, just a new name For one. Maybe I'll make enough money and I'll just buy the app and then rename it. They're like Twitter and X, so I'll just buy like Tinder and name it in Cementia.

Dylan:

That's what Fireball was. Fireball was an existing product since, I want to say, 1980s.

Brad:

What was it like?

Dylan:

Red Hot it was or something it was and they just it was a dying brand and a marketing team got ahold of it and they just reintroduced it as something new with some great branding. Got some drunk kids to do some luges on the ski hill and all of a sudden, here we are, which?

Brad:

Can we do that I love. Can we rebrand this so that people like it? We hit a thousand Like this podcast.

Dylan:

A thousand downloads.

Brad:

Can we just, you know, jazz it up a little bit. How would we jazz?

Dylan:

this podcast up.

Brad:

We could try Lugine.

Dylan:

I don't know. We make a valid point. Yeah, fast and loose.

Brad:

I think we found a new Friday podcast now no, oh yeah, can I Fast and loose, fast and loose Hot creams? That's not what they could actually think.

Dylan:

I think we're on to something.

Brad:

I did have a hot take, I told you earlier this week, and it actually came from a social media post, and now that I've been listening to this thing, it just reinvigorates my belief in it. World is flat. The Iowa caucuses were last week. Is that right? Last week or two weeks ago?

Dylan:

Last week.

Brad:

Week and a half Week and a half ago and someone had posted that they were going, which is great. Caucuses are weird. I think the whole primary caucus thing is strange.

Dylan:

Where you just get to move around from side to side.

Brad:

It's just different, but it's an interesting take into our political system. I think getting involved in any of that is not necessarily a bad thing. And she goes. Just come out and educate yourselves.

Dylan:

Day of it's going to be great. Because they have, apparently they have speakers and I mean you're, you're, you're fighting to the last minute. I mean you're moving around, you can get people to come from one camp to another.

Brad:

Yeah, so it's a persuasion. No, we're really call it a debate, necessarily. But so, and I just thought, you know, I don't, I don't know how well people are at educating themselves, and I've seen this a lot in the last, since COVID. Yeah, so since COVID, somebody has an opinion, or somebody shares something and then says you need to educate yourselves. That's a that's a slippery slope, isn't it? Because what we talked about here before like we like our bunkers, we like our algorithms, we like our safety feedback- loops.

Dylan:

Yeah, way to pop the mic, thank you.

Brad:

So really aren't you just being told what you want to hear anyways?

Dylan:

Is this going to end up with Sam Harris again?

Brad:

No.

Dylan:

Okay, no Okay.

Brad:

No, but if you think about if you are going into your own echo chamber to educate yourself, that's, that's not really educating. You're going to figure out what you want to hear. Discovering is challenging maybe your health beliefs, or discovering something new and then challenging that. So somebody tells you a new piece of evidence You're like oh, I did, I didn't know that. Do you know it now? Maybe check it out.

Dylan:

Why is this IP address from Ukraine?

Brad:

Yeah, it's, I don't know. I just feel like you scroll through stuff and you see things in your spidey senses go off on certain things.

Dylan:

Does everyone have spidey senses? That's the problem. That's the whole point. It's not a real thing, right, yeah, only certain people do.

Brad:

That's it, and I think you can. You can definitely develop them and I think people should have developed them in schooling. It's an attuned skill for sure, Like that is. The whole point of critical thinking is when people say they'll say something and right off, like right off the top, you're like that. That sounds suspect. I don't like it.

Brad:

That sounds like it could be too good to be true, and so just check into it. Just check into it. And when people say educate yourselves, they a lot of the time mean look into the sources that I've read and believe that Jack has.

Dylan:

It's. It's always like the per my last email you know it's yeah, off office talk translation.

Brad:

And just because the specific sources that you have don't corroborate what the the main thing is, doesn't mean that your sources are correct Like no, you've never heard this side of the story. Yeah, maybe because it's not a fucking side. Maybe because it's made up, that's possible. Maybe not a thing. Other times, when it's not made up, yeah, that's a real possibility, but every time, every time, it's a conspiracy every time I run into.

Dylan:

I've run into the. You're not open minded If you think all conspiracy theories are fake conversation a couple of times recently, which is interesting because I'm like, I'm listening, I just don't have enough to convince me, but I'm open minded to it still. So please produce some evidence. But you're you're saying that the only truth is this truth, yeah, minus some some substantial information.

Brad:

Yeah, and you can't just in terms of conspiracy theories, you can't say none of them are ever true because it's been proven that what was once a conspiracy was true. We have examples of that. That doesn't mean that everything is a conspiracy. Hot take, everything is a conspiracy, oh no, george H George.

Dylan:

H, yeah, killed JFK. He was in the CIA. Have you? Have you listened to that Evan Hafer rant? No, it makes a couple of senses, on more than one level.

Brad:

Yeah, but that's uh, yeah, I don't know we're gonna have to listen to it. The whole idea with conspiracies is that it's sometimes, I feel, like the easier it is to connect the dots, the less likely there's this information at that point, there's disinformation.

Dylan:

At that point, yeah, there's, there's nothing. Lack of evidence is more, or lack of information is more clear than misinformation being pushed in front of you because then you have to we've talked about this you have to wade and verify the misinformation versus if there's nothing there to verify, you're already ahead.

Brad:

Yeah, and that's what this guy was talking about in this on this other podcast, was it's? It's too intense to go down the road of verifying everything and so you have. You have all of this other stuff, but on the flip side of that, you do also have some social media investigative journalists that that do it for a living.

Dylan:

Matt. Matt Tlaib. See, he was the Twitter files guy. He's done a couple other, but he's he was mainstream journalist that kind of started exposing some things and people weren't super keen on him doing that, it became political almost where it's like hey, you were supposed to be a democratic reporter and he was like I'm a reporter.

Brad:

Another hot take and this came from somebody that is like that, so I'm gonna have to look into it but everybody's kind of complaining about increased prices on multiple things. You know, especially since COVID. What kind of prices? Material prices, food prices, gas prices? No, because companies are having record profits through the years yeah, the last couple of years.

Dylan:

Are those record profits? Have they been normalized against inflation?

Brad:

Yes, we're talking 100 to multiple hundreds of percent.

Dylan:

Normalized against inflation or just number of new numbers?

Brad:

Inflation has been hundreds of percent.

Dylan:

Start compounding year after year. 3% over a couple of years starts to add up pretty fast.

Brad:

Is that hundreds?

Dylan:

Don't know, I'm just asking the question.

Brad:

Three, three it's not linear. It's not linear.

Dylan:

It's like if you invest your money and you get 7% every year, 7 years, you've doubled it, so 49% if you went in the linear fashion isn't actually that, it's 100%.

Brad:

So it'd be like 30% a year.

Dylan:

Pardon.

Brad:

No 3. What would it have to be? It would have to be like 33% a year over 3 years to get to 100%.

Dylan:

Right.

Brad:

Is that how it works? It's not how that works. What would it have to be to give me the percentages? I don't know I don't understand the math.

Dylan:

I understand the math. I just I'm not gonna be able to do it right now.

Brad:

Yeah, so there's that I'm gonna start looking into it.

Dylan:

Okay, you're not wrong, they're our record Record revenues, record profits.

Brad:

Record increase in pay wages amongst workers, though I don't think that align with those profits. That was what the thing was about.

Dylan:

Yeah.

Brad:

It's kind of like how it's it's staying in the stock buybacks and you know all that kind of stuff in the investment Financial engineering. Basically so, and I can't educate myself on it, so why not? Because you're right here at your side, you know where you stand Per my other hot take, and things are complicated, it's hard to understand. That would be a deep dive for me.

Dylan:

Yeah.

Brad:

I don't greatly understand finances, and so I would have to try to figure that out. We'll start with Excel, so that that kind of happens with people where you're like I'm gonna educate myself, Okay, Well, you, you're not going to go into the deep dive, because most of us don't have what it takes to be that coherent on this. Many, especially when you're talking about politics. You're talking about world politics and systems that have been in place for decades, that are super complicated, Not just rooted in money but culture. So so you're going to end up taking some opinions of people Some some may be factual, Some may be just opinions, some complete bullshit and I think what I what I really mean is people are having a hard time sifting through all of that to figure out what is there's a lot.

Brad:

What is more reasonable than than not? And when you're talking about politics, obviously there's a lot that's not reasonable, probably in terms of people's opinions or in terms of I think my favorite was political promises.

Dylan:

I think my favorite was was on the treadmill, the gym and the TV's are on and somebody was interviewing Donald Trump and they're like President Trump, are you going to forgive those people that were running against you in the primaries? And he goes. I'm a very forgiving guy.

Brad:

I forgive all the time and I'm like this is such a it's just, it's such an interesting concept.

Dylan:

Okay, so are just the whole.

Brad:

That whole deal is really. It is very unique because there have definitely been debates in the past where things get fiery, but they are. Yeah, you know how do you want to say?

Dylan:

level of civility.

Brad:

Yes, there's, there is a level of civility. There's a there's a level of professional respect across and I feel like in the last maybe eight to, I don't know, 12 years or so, that's gotten a little bit out of hand to where we're insulting, you know, people's wives and kids and basically nothing is off the table. It pales.

Dylan:

I'm not saying it's correct, but it pales in comparison. You ever watched UK Parliament? Oh yeah, it is a standup comedy show. They go in with Burns Red. I mean they just have stacks of jokes, yeah, and they're just ready, and they go on diatribes and monologues and and is that?

Brad:

does that? It's not good, you think? I don't think that makes people feel good. No.

Dylan:

I'm just, but it's, it's funny, because we're over here going, hey, something's not okay over here, and then there's this theater over on that side.

Brad:

Yeah, but look at ours lately.

Dylan:

Oh, we're definitely getting there. It's pushing that way, we're getting that way, and I don't, I don't want to see that, no.

Brad:

It's when, when the political theater becomes theatrical, I think you're in for some problems. Absolutely. C-span should be fucking boring. Yes, you should not wanna watch it, and lately I feel like we could just tune in like fucking prime time TV we got.

Dylan:

Jelly Roll. We got Zucks. Maybe Elon's coming next week. We're not sure.

Brad:

We got ring girls that are just holding up graphs, walking behind senators Like what about this? What about this time? You said this. I remember this. I brought the fucking receipts.

Dylan:

Capital needs to hire you and I, because we could do some excellent marketing for them. Yeah, wait, you guys wanna jazz us up with ring girls.

Brad:

I mean, they're a step away from having it, because now they're holding up things during speeches and all that kind of stuff. And does it make a difference? Not really, probably, speaking of holding things up.

Dylan:

Your manhood.

Brad:

No, okay, and we'll get to that. I was watching the Premier League, so Arsenal, Crystal Palace, English football fans are different, so when did you figure that out? I thought it was called. I've seen some of this stuff from the past, just like the hooligans and the bus entries when people are going to away games and stuff like that and you're like, oh, this looks like a straight riot and it's becoming a little bit more civil to some extent in terms of like you're gonna get banned if you get caught doing this kind of stuff.

Dylan:

There's a certain level at premiership games that they hold you to, but Maybe not so much on the lower levels, lower leagues, is. I mean, you think about it. It takes money and resources to have that level of security and vetting. So yeah, it makes sense. At the top level, you're trying to keep a squeaky clean image for the world so you can keep propagating your sports, make more money. Lower levels we're just happy to be here.

Brad:

And the people that are there watching when you're watching, when your team is a lower level division.

Dylan:

You're there for the love and the passion. You're not there for the glitz and the glam.

Brad:

No.

Dylan:

It's a way of life.

Brad:

So Arsenal beat Crystal Palace 5-0. And before the game was over, the whole Crystal Palace section brought banners, and I'm talking, it extended the entire row and it was. I don't remember exactly what I was saying, but it was basically calling out the owners like you, fucking wankers, you are ruining this club. You need to be fired, and it's just. You know they have a little section of visitors and the whole section is just a banner and it's right in front of their manager, as he's on the sidelines. Wanker, wanker, wanker.

Brad:

So he's just staring at it Wanker Of, like holy shit. Even the pundits were like I don't recall seeing something of this magnitude anytime recently. Like it was pretty.

Dylan:

I like that they clarify it with recently.

Brad:

Like you definitely see it, probably on the streets, oh yeah, so in front of stadiums or you know home places. People will go there and hold, you know, like a rally or something, if they don't like the way something's going on, but a lot of times dealing with ownership, but I don't know. We hold up like a poster board maybe, but that was a work of art there, because that was a lot of time and money invested. Oh oh oh, belgium tapestry.

Dylan:

And you have to have 25 years.

Brad:

You needed hundreds of people to hold all of the banners, so they all have to be on the same.

Dylan:

Yeah.

Brad:

It wasn't like I don't believe in this. I like everything that's happening here.

Dylan:

I'm just here for the hot dogs.

Brad:

So they were very, but I don't see that happening with the bears. We just suck again.

Dylan:

There is a level of blind loyalty with no activism, yeah, and there is a political sentiment in sports over there that we don't have, like when an owner owns a team in the NFL they own the team. And it kind of stops there. But there are. I mean there's voting and other things. I don't know if you watch the oh, I can't think of his name right now.

Brad:

He's from.

Dylan:

Portugal, but he's the Spanish when he left Barcelona to go to AC Milan, where the president of AC Milan was voted in. So there's a voting and everyone thinks he's the owner. It's like no, he's the president and he's a really wealthy businessman that has a stake in the company, but he can get kicked out and put it at any point. So there's a political element to their sports. Yeah, Board of directors, if you will. So there's a little bit. You're able to have a little bit more activism over there than you are here.

Brad:

Also a little bit of a money game, a little bit.

Dylan:

Jesus, what do you got to be to?

Brad:

own a Premier League team. How about a chic?

Dylan:

His Royal Highness Something, something, something.

Brad:

Yeah, it takes a little bit usually.

Dylan:

So yeah, I enjoyed that actually, I think, when Terrible and Oblivious goes global, we'll do the Ryan Reynolds. And why can't it think of Rob McElhaney? Yeah, rob McElhaney's thing.

Brad:

That was why Rex. So if Rex him, yeah, if anyone is interested in lower level world football, welcome to Rex him. It's a really good introduction to that. In terms of the inner workings of football clubs and definitely their relation to the towns and supporters, because especially on these smaller clubs, they live and breathe and die for their football games.

Dylan:

Even premiership level teams, that I'm not going to say the top five, top six, but the lower level teams are still very community oriented. You see that, with what was the, I think, Birmingham.

Brad:

I think they all are. Yes, it is. I think you can get out of that, like Arsenal happened. I think that happened a bit.

Dylan:

The closest thing you can see to it, I think, in the United States would be the Green Bay Packers, because of how small that town is. Well, and it's fan owned yeah well, sort of they sold non voting shares so you could like own the team. It's not like a real, ok, I mean, I don't think that pays dividends or anything. I think they get some discounts and some other things, no so it's not real. It's ownership.

Brad:

But it's not like. But with the, the rexham team, it was basically the fans and I don't remember exactly how it went down, but the the previous ownership was so terrible Like they have the oldest working football stadium in the world, so the race course was the race course Race track or something like that, and basically somebody with you know a fair amount of money came in and was like oh yeah, I'm gonna own this team and then kind of came out that he kind of wanted just the land and that he might just rip down the stadium. That's been there since Whoopsy 18. I don't remember what the date is 70s, 80s, something like that. So basically he got ousted and it went to the people and so no one could come in and buy without the like a majority vote from all of the fans that currently owned the club. The problem with that was that they didn't have much money.

Brad:

To you know invest in players, or the property was was just Getting decimated by time. So here comes Green Lantern and Rob serious Rob, serious Rob and they, they invested in it and and now they're moving up like to. Like to and doing well.

Dylan:

Mm-hmm.

Brad:

I don't know where they're at in the standings, but but it is a very interesting look into Into that. It's also an interesting look into how Millions second place billionaires and billionaires like to they're in second place.

Dylan:

It's tight at the top 54, 52, 51. It's always tight at the top. That's not true.

Brad:

I've seen wet, walk away no.

Dylan:

Talking about your colon, it was a hot take.

Brad:

It was tight at the top.

Dylan:

Yeah, yeah.

Brad:

Top doesn't exist anymore.

Dylan:

Oh.

Brad:

I got that going for me, you know what I take.

Dylan:

People use social media to feel tough about themselves, but they just they can't say it in public. That's, I think that's my favorite part about social media is you'll say that here, but the next time I see you you would never say it, and not even if it's directly pointed at me. But we mean tough people, just say, really just say stuff on social media that they would never tell anyone in person.

Brad:

Yeah, some people, there's the zealots, but yeah, there's that that's not it aggressive. Oh my god, annie is upstairs. I'm pretty sure she just body slams somebody.

Dylan:

Where's my t-shirt? I?

Brad:

Think there's. I think there's people that are so far removed from reality today that they would. They would say equally on social media. Yeah, that's probably a minority, I'm sure yeah.

Dylan:

I always hope I just I've heard it. I was worried about the elevator. I the elevator rule, like if I was stuck in an elevator with this person would I say it to them.

Brad:

Oh, is that how you?

Dylan:

that's how you're doing it sometimes all the time I.

Brad:

Try to what's more intimate than an elevator.

Dylan:

Amish Buggy is more intimate. Oh, that feels kind of more open. Well, you have no escape and you're on this road. You got to go 30 miles by horse.

Brad:

I like that Snickers commercial with the Amish guy. I don't know and he picks up these two guys whose car broke down. It's one Amish guy riding in the buggy, these two guys and they have Snickers. And they give the Amish guy a snicker and the guys go hey, what did you do before the internet? It's like Wasn't so bad. Your mom just used to mail me pictures.

Dylan:

That's pretty good.

Brad:

But yeah, I, I say things on social media all the time that I don't think I would say in real life. You know pussy, like no what. Okay, I'll say that on social media. How would you?

Dylan:

know why would you say something on social media when saying real life?

Brad:

Yeah, you know, I'm just like.

Dylan:

I'm just seeking attention. Yeah like you, go get the dopamine hit.

Brad:

Yeah, like you know, I'll say things like my wife just really gets me, you know hmm, it's today, opposite day. I'll be like, and I just love spending time with my kids, you know, yeah. I Just love Everything about my house.

Dylan:

Hmm.

Brad:

Yeah, it's good house. Yeah, yeah, I just you guys shouldn't be so jealous about my wardrobe, you know. I Don't know that I would say those things in real life, but they but thank God for social media.

Dylan:

You ever just watch the people that you can just tell the constant. I'll call them the serial posters and it's this game when they'll post and you know they're looking at how many comments views and I'm not talking about influencers, I'm talking about just people that are looking for some sort of affirmation oh, did this today, super excited about myself, and you can just see. And then they'll ride some high after it for a little bit and then they'll go right back down and then they'll do something again to try to pump themselves up and it's like you've directly tied your emotions to people clicking on a button.

Brad:

Yeah, and how do you like, because there's other people that share on a regular basis to a positive effect. How do you stop that from like? I'm doing this because I wanna share my journey, right Of whatever that may be. Hard times, good times, fun times, whatever. But yeah, eventually doesn't that become? Maybe not for some people, I think it becomes job-like for some people. I think other people just fucking love doing it.

Dylan:

I still. I told you I'd posted a thousand and I still haven't done it. What I haven't posted it.

Brad:

I know that's because you don't care. It's not that I don't care, you don't care about this.

Dylan:

Hot take Dylan's afraid.

Brad:

Dylan's afraid that if he shares it, everyone's gonna hate him.

Dylan:

No, no, I'm not at the stage of my life where I'm looking for friends anyway, I don't think I was ever at that stage. Yeah, you ever tell people you're like I'm not in the collecting phase right now, but take a ticket and maybe we'll get back to you in a couple years.

Brad:

I take that back. I think maybe, like when I went to college, you're like I should probably make some friends yeah, I don't know anybody here, I wanna make some friends. And then it turns out that the way I made friends was just by not doing anything. I remember freshman year. These two girls came up to me and we were friends all through college. You know it was in the cafeteria and they were like hey, what's up? Sad, lonely boy, what are you doing?

Dylan:

Who made the brooding and Steve philosopher what?

Brad:

And then they just kind of took me under their little social wings and off they went. And they were you know, strange and weird in their own ways too, mm-hmm, just much more outgoing.

Dylan:

So they saw fix and they needed to fix you A project, if you will. I don't think they fixed me. I didn't say the people that are successful. Oh fuck, that's me. Oh, damn it, You're the failed sixth grade science experiment.

Brad:

I talk about that a lot In therapy.

Dylan:

Sixth grade physics.

Brad:

No oh.

Dylan:

What I don't know. What middle school did you go to? Physics?

Brad:

I'm just I don't remember what we talked about. What do you wonder, wondercat, that was before your time, maybe. No, I, I you remember that they're still using it. Mm-hmm, yeah, they didn't change it up much then.

Dylan:

No. I liked lollipop commercials. How many likes does it take to get to the center of a titsy pop?

Brad:

Yeah, that only reminds me of Little Kim and CD that I threw out the car window.

Dylan:

You threw a Little Kim CD out.

Brad:

I sure did. It was Shayna's favorite at the time and it skipped a lot, and so I ejected it and threw it out the window.

Dylan:

Did you have a Little River Band on backup?

Brad:

Mm what Little River Band.

Dylan:

Fully loaded five discs. No, no, no, oh god, no this is a single Someone out there might get the other guy's reference. Okay, maybe.

Brad:

I no, I didn't get it. I know, yeah, fuck you Clearly so.

Dylan:

Any final hot takes. There's something to rant and rave, or wait, no, we're calling it.

Brad:

We, you're gonna have to go back now.

Dylan:

Oh, I gotta go listen to our own podcast.

Brad:

You forgot yours but I still have mine Hot Creams.

Dylan:

Yeah, but what was the Fast?

Brad:

and Loose. Fast and Loose Hot Creams. Fast and Loose Hot Creams. God damn it. I'm gonna have to do a new intro.

Dylan:

Maybe, Maybe we can dub over it hey.

Brad:

PS. We have emails now so that you can interact with us.

Dylan:

Yeah, we'll have socials by the time this up. No, actually it's Friday. No, we won't. Oh, we can do it right. No, we won't.

Brad:

But we do have emails. So if you have something that you like, hate especially for hot takes.

Dylan:

Info at terriblyunobliviouscom. What's that one? It's our shared mailbox. It'll go to both of our accounts. Don't ever give out your private account. Now you tell me Cause, then you're gonna get spammed.

Brad:

Now you tell me.

Dylan:

Yeah.

Brad:

And yet still nothing. Nothing. It's like nobody cares about us. I wish for spam. Don't make me rename this podcast Too. I won't spam.

Dylan:

Don't they have a Broadway show called spam? Do they Spam a lot? Is it about spam? No, it's Monty Python. Oh, spam a lot. Okay.

Brad:

Should I do my new ending?

Dylan:

Yeah.

Brad:

You like it.

Dylan:

Mm-hmm, do you think?

Brad:

anybody else knows about it. No, I know like one person knows about it Is his name Martin. He probably was a He-Man watcher, I'm sure.

Dylan:

Okay, so you give it to him.

Brad:

Anybody that grew up with He-Man or really any cartoon in the 80s they like to end with like the.

Dylan:

They haven't canceled He-Man, is it not He-Person? Nope, what. I'm just. You gotta be gender neutral. Now it is, there was a She-Ra. It's not good enough. It's not. It wasn't the main character, it's not equitable.

Brad:

It's not in duality anymore.

Dylan:

I don't think duality or equitable are the same things.

Brad:

No, but I mean duality in terms of like man, woman. Now, it's just 25 different things. Maybe it's a spectrum, yeah, but but just because it's a spectrum doesn't mean that man doesn't exist, so we're gonna start calling you Prism Head.

Dylan:

No.

Brad:

Why Fuck you?

Dylan:

Because a prism will show a spectrum of colors. Come on people keep up.

Brad:

Oh, I thought it was because my head was weird shaped Fucking.

Dylan:

Keep up. God damn, it's hard. Okay, it's hard dealing with normal people.

Brad:

Well, this is what you have to do so anyways in the 80s. So GI Joe, transformers, thundercats, mad Max, what? That was a movie? Okay, any of the cartoons. They would end with like the moral of the story, so a character would come out and explain to you what just happened. Because in the 80s we were stupid, so we were really there for the violence, and then somebody had to come out and remind us of what was happening. You're like we're watching soldiers kill each other.

Dylan:

They never do Drink more. Oval Team.

Brad:

They're both elite fighting forces and nobody ever fucking dies. He-man has a giant sword and a vicious tiger cat and nobody dies. They just keep fighting the same people. We were there for the violence, but they were there for the morals of the story and the loincloth Hit me. This story, so morals and the closet, so Skeletor from He-Man would come out.

Dylan:

He would give you a little moral of the story.

Brad:

So now I'm gonna end with these Skeletor memes and he would always come out and say remember. And then we're gonna say something. Okay, so today's is remember, every machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

Dylan:

Okay, I like it. Go make smoke people. You're still here.

Brad:

It's over.

Dylan:

Go home.

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