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Hot Takes - Tightropes, Prescriptions, and the Colorful Spectrum of Emotion

April 04, 2024 Noo Brad Child & Dylan Steil Episode 29
Hot Takes - Tightropes, Prescriptions, and the Colorful Spectrum of Emotion
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Terribly Unoblivious
Hot Takes - Tightropes, Prescriptions, and the Colorful Spectrum of Emotion
Apr 04, 2024 Episode 29
Noo Brad Child & Dylan Steil
Ever feel like you're walking a tightrope between affection and codependency, or find yourself questioning the authenticity of ADHD diagnoses? Strap in, because we are about to take you on a rollercoaster ride through these complex terrains. We'll share personal stories that might just mirror your own experiences and debate the stickiness of relationships, the intricacies of mental health prescriptions, and the colorful spectrum of our emotional lives.

Dylan drops by with anecdotes and insights that'll either have you nodding along or sparking your own fiery opinions. Together, we crack open the can of worms that is Adderall, dissect the significance of failure and perseverance in our lives, and ponder the role of medication in forging our paths. From personal battles with task initiation to the broader implications of mental health management, we're here to explore it all—with our signature blend of humor and honesty.

Grab a spoon, because we're serving up a final course of thought-provoking topics, from the shadowy corners of breaking habits to the shifting sands of religious history and education. We wrap things up with a playful jab at the idea of free will and gluttony—Cheez Whiz, anyone?—all while weaving in a cheeky nod to the contradictions that make us human. So, listen in and get ready to laugh, learn, and maybe even redefine your perspectives with the three of us as your guides.

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Ever feel like you're walking a tightrope between affection and codependency, or find yourself questioning the authenticity of ADHD diagnoses? Strap in, because we are about to take you on a rollercoaster ride through these complex terrains. We'll share personal stories that might just mirror your own experiences and debate the stickiness of relationships, the intricacies of mental health prescriptions, and the colorful spectrum of our emotional lives.

Dylan drops by with anecdotes and insights that'll either have you nodding along or sparking your own fiery opinions. Together, we crack open the can of worms that is Adderall, dissect the significance of failure and perseverance in our lives, and ponder the role of medication in forging our paths. From personal battles with task initiation to the broader implications of mental health management, we're here to explore it all—with our signature blend of humor and honesty.

Grab a spoon, because we're serving up a final course of thought-provoking topics, from the shadowy corners of breaking habits to the shifting sands of religious history and education. We wrap things up with a playful jab at the idea of free will and gluttony—Cheez Whiz, anyone?—all while weaving in a cheeky nod to the contradictions that make us human. So, listen in and get ready to laugh, learn, and maybe even redefine your perspectives with the three of us as your guides.

Speaker 1:

On a desolate, frozen tundra, surrounded by mindless, brain-numbing cold takes, two bros trek through the nothingness to bring hope to a new generation. You are about to experience Brad and Dylan's Hot Takes. Here we go again. Hot Takes, hot Takes. Hot Takes, alright, and his meowing is the Hot Takes episode. Hot takes, hot takes, all right. Annie's meowing is the hot takes episode.

Speaker 1:

Hot takes, she's not doing it now, don't make me. She don't like it. She's like I'm not your pet monkey. Yeah, come on, do it. Come on, you want to do it? What's up? You gave her love and now she's not going to. Oh, now she's not gonna. Oh, no, she's not gonna leave us alone. Well, all you had to do was do a cute little creature like dirt. She'll stick to you like mud. Wow, that's a hot take that is.

Speaker 1:

I heard that from a kid one time and I'm like you know what? Are you a relationship therapist there's? I understand what you're saying. There's a lot there. I've seen some people that are. It's not just a. I think it goes both ways.

Speaker 1:

But you could definitely create some kind of stockholm codependency syndrome based on yeah, I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go there right away. I would start with like a motorcycle and cigarettes, probably what like you're gonna get a leather jacket. Start ripping heaters with a mom tattoo on your maybe. I kind of like that. Look for you. Kind of put out the vibes. Yeah, you definitely have a village people. But yeah, like I do moderately bad things. Yeah, yeah, all while singing, working at, working at the YMCA, oh, oh, everybody. No thanks.

Speaker 1:

So Hot takes, hot takes. Bad news in the child household. Got some doctor news. Shouldn't say bad news. I guess it's just news about who, what you are, maybe what you don't have. Here's a question Is it news? If I don't believe it, no, it's disinformation. Is it disinformation? It's disinformation.

Speaker 1:

So I had to the world's objective, you can make it whatever you want. I had to go see, like a new person, about whether or not I can pay attention to things for an extended period of time. Okay, and apparently an extended period of time is 10 minutes. Uh, according to the tests that I took, okay, and turns out I can, I can pay attention. They made it a game. That's what I don't understand. So if you ever make a game or something competitive with someone who has ADHD, it's like, okay, I can dominate this for a few minutes, maybe.

Speaker 1:

Not everybody, not everyone. So I don't. Yeah, I don't have it. Hey, good news I don't have it. Okay, I want a second opinion. I do. I, as your co-host, want a second opinion. Can I get a good, maybe? Good, thank you. Okay, thanks, jocko. Okay, thanks, jocko.

Speaker 1:

So kind of everybody's response was what's wrong with you? Then, yeah, it's true, it's disappointing, and we did kind of talk a little bit about is it an issue that I have or is it environmentally related? Like, is my brain really just not able to focus or is there so much shit coming at me that I don't know what to pick up on? Yeah, I mean, you're just shitty at organizing things. So it's probably that I've gotten better at that. Good yeah, I hate you with my own good. I like that at that. Good yeah, I hit you with my own good. I like that, okay. But also, when people say things about ADD, I'm like, yeah, I get that. I got it, I get it. I smell what you're stepping in. I get it, I smell what you're stepping in. So, essentially, I may have some symptoms dealing, ranging from other topics, like what I don't fucking know. So we're going to have to go house on this.

Speaker 1:

What's his. What's his? Hugh Laurie, lupus Ramis, no, lupus, oh. He's going to say Lupus, oh Is always lupus. I mean, is that, is that? Is that that's his go-to?

Speaker 1:

Who is the? Who? Is the csi miami guy? Um, horatio, who's the actor? Ratio sands? I don't know he was. He always had a punch line at the end of the red headed guy. Yeah, the worst looks like you punched your last ticket, okay, I? I was, I'm ready to punch somebody. Okay, not really, I'm pretty happy.

Speaker 1:

What else you know, besides not having add dhd? Um, what do you? What do you? What else you got I? Or what don't you have? I don't. I guess we have to ask you what you don't have, I don't know. Now I'm like, was I ever really depressed? It was just a construct man that you put on yourself. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

So when we start talking about it like that the dude the Kroll, is it Kroll guy? Krohn Krohn, chris Krohn we're talking about a guy that doesn't get sick. He just wakes up and says, no, I'm not getting sick. I feel like I got a sniffle and I just say I'm not sick. So we like to make fun of that guy. But now that's essentially what we're saying about me is your finance, bro? Is like, no, like what, you have problem paying attention, just fucking pay attention. Just tell yourself to pay attention.

Speaker 1:

It's a little David Gogginsy. Yeah, yeah, which is fair to some extent, yeah, but I don't. I don't think David ever says like I don't think he expects you not to fuck up, it's just about getting back up and keep moving forward. It's he's like I love to fail, I keep moving forward. It's he's like I love to fail, I keep moving forward, like here's the thing that guy's just I will myself and whatever I want to be, with no exceptions. Yeah, that's a, that's a. That's a steeper mountain to get over. Yeah, in my opinion, yeah, okay, so you had something. Um, okay, so you had something.

Speaker 1:

I was like I feel a lot better on Adderall though I think a lot of people feel better on Adderall and he's like well, yeah, take a meth, he's not wrong, it's not wrong, it definitely is an endorphin boost. So I guess my question for you, for him would be so if I'm lacking in all these endorphins, then what you know, if I'm getting these hits and it's not, you're not going like I didn't see you, you're not like wilding out, you're not like hyper, you're not like. You're not like that crazy kid in the library, that's like I gotta cram for the test. No, so that's what you just are like, rounded out, and you don't display those, create like those symptoms of somebody who's addicted, that needs to just sit there and grind on something. Well, when he was talking about, uh, the downsides of because there's downsides to all medicines obviously increased heart attack, it's like I don't know if that's true, I made that stat up, no, but he's like, oh, it's increased rate, uh, heart rate and trouble sleeping, and I don't have any fidgety, and you know I'm like I've been fidgeting my whole life. I don't experience any of that. So how am I able to focus better with and here's the other thing you give me a task that I'm super into for 10 minutes and I'm looking at sanding a table for four hours and trying not to step away from it so I can go watch. Fundamentally, no Finance, bro, it has to be done. It has to be done for me to get it out the door, to get my paycheck, and that's a little bit into the econ book that we'll get into as an episode I'm excited for.

Speaker 1:

But a lot of the basis of econ is rational. We say rational human being. A rational human being would say, okay, I need to do this task to have money come in so that I can go do other things I want to do. Okay, so that's rational, got it. You understand, you know that, but you're still looking at it Like you have to go build the Eiffel tower out of an erector set to scale the entire size by yourself, and you're like I don't even know where to start, which is not case. You're like I just know I need to put my hand on the palm, sander right, put it on the table, turn my headphones on and go. Yeah, it's a, it's a random orbus, and as soon as sorry, as soon as you start, you're fine.

Speaker 1:

But the anxiety of starting that what seems to be simple looks like, feels like jumping off a cliff and and since I've been on meds, I don't feel that way. Like I said, I want a second coincidence. Let's get a second opinion and then we'll just. I mean, technically, he was my second opinion, I already had a first opinion and the first thing can be trucks, so that's an even better idea. Let's, we've got the two opinions, we'll go back to the first one we should get. We should find two primary care providers in the area and let's get your charts released. We'll do a little chat with them here about what they think. We'll do a panel to see if you do or don't. It won't be medically binding. We won't hold them to a diagnosis.

Speaker 1:

Nobody's telling me to go off depression meds, but do they work as well as Adderall? I don't know. I feel like this episode. I don't know. Disclaimer everyone. We're not telling everyone to go out and take Adderall. We're just trying to understand. Yeah, we're telling me to do it. Yeah, don't. Actually, everyone should go off of it because it's really hard to get my script every once in a while. Listen, this is about me. Okay, this is not about you guys. So I don't know, that's uh, so you're still on your old script.

Speaker 1:

Then, like, even though the guy told you, no, you're, yeah, you're listening to the first guy, or well, that's, yeah, it's gonna be the end. We got more irritable. Yeah, off it, and I'm gonna say that that's not a withdrawal. I'm saying that to you when, if you're, if you aren't feeling passionate about something or you're not in the thick of like what you deem a really cool project or a really exciting project. Yeah, you're kind of a kind of a bump on the log.

Speaker 1:

I'm, you're one of my, one of my best friends. I've known you a long time but you just, you've always been that way, I think, and it's and it's. You always just seem to have a gray haze. I don't want a friend, I don't want to call it, I don't want to call it to just flat out use the blanket term depression. It's just, you know what you need to do and your, your anxiety and things are caused by your inability to start tasks. Okay, so focus on tasks.

Speaker 1:

So what he was saying was this uh, this Dr Amen, dr Amen. Are we allowed to use real doctor's names on this? Eamon, are we allowed to use real doctor's names on this? He's a famous doctor, dr Eamon, not Fauci. That's two episodes in a row I've used his name. He's also famous, I know Now infamous, maybe I came across him from, I think, tiktok initially, but he talks a lot about brain scans, but he does a lot on ADD and ADHD and basically what my doctor was telling, or the guy that I was seeing was telling me, was that there's, clinically, there is ADD, which is the attention disorder, right, and then you have ADHD which is hyperactive, and then you have a combination of the two.

Speaker 1:

So that's where I fall. So those, clinically, are the three I'm in the mid that they describe. Amen has like four more, and so these are symptoms from the first two possibly that are brought about by a different system. Okay, Okay, so Eastern versus Western philosophy? No more like, uh, say, you're a really anxious person, like you have high anxiety, right, you don't have ADD, like that part of your brain is working fine, but because you are so anxious, you have an issue with. Dr Amen Identify seven types of ADHD, seven types.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so I think it's those three types and then four more. Okay, I believe, wow. And so I guess my question is if a medicine addresses those symptoms and is not having adverse effects, so say, like so one of them, I think, comes from anxiety. I think one of them comes from a depression. I don't know what the other two are related to, but if the symptoms present as like an ADD style symptom and then the medicine for ADD helps with that symptom, what's the difference? I guess that's my question. Yeah, you know, I don't. So there's just a lot of loose ends for me there, I think I don't know. So this is interesting. One of them says that one of these, the ring of fire ADD, describes a pattern of overall high brain activity leading to individuals feeling overwhelmed with thoughts and emotions. This type can worsen with stimulant medications alone. It may relate to allergies, infections or inflammation. Interesting, but that's not it. I don't know and see. I feel very the opposite, like if wouldn't.

Speaker 1:

Previously we were trying to do episodes and I'm trying to research. There's so many things going through my head. Are you limbic ADD, characterized by core ADD symptoms, along with moodiness, negativity, low energy, frequent irritability, feeling of hopelessness and chronic low self-esteem? The deep limbic area of the brain which controls emotions is overactive. Oh, can't say I relate, don't even know what any of those words mean.

Speaker 1:

Oh, got it on camera. I was going to oil it. I was going to do it. Do you like that? Sound that one? Yeah, no, really. What If I oiled your hinges? Oh, yeah, you can oil them? Oh, wow, look at it.

Speaker 1:

Why didn't we do this 30 episodes ago? You make a valid point. Well, now it's kind of our thing, it is. It's like it's a little bit like, uh, it's like Kramer coming through at Seinfeld. Yeah, jerry, okay, can you, can you make a bigger entrance next time? Jerry, you're not going to believe what happened to me today, uh, when there's stuff in. You're not going to believe what happened to me today when they're stuffing rocks in the snowballs, I don't know. I mean, these seven are some of them, but I don't. Where's the hyperactive one, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

So this goes back to, I mean, god, I can't tell you the year, but when I was diagnosed with clinical depression, right, and they're like you probably need to be on some meds, like there's, there's definitely some chemical stuff that's happening because everything situationally for you is it's not induced, right, so it's something that's happening inside your body. Break up with you. Dog didn't die, parents aren't going through a divorce. No, it's the world's not shitting on you. I mean, I mean the world's shitting on you always, yeah, because of how I think about it. But well, that's your problem, yeah, or prerogative, whatever. So, and did that help? It's like, yeah, that helped. Okay, well, what else helps? Well, like, therapy's helped, you know.

Speaker 1:

So when, like, amen is talking about different ways to set up your life so that you can minimize, uh, being symptomatic about things, yeah, that works to an extent like going to therapy, would and has worked for me. Would it work as well if I wasn't on meds? For me, I don't think so. I think I need that baseline, right, yeah, where it's like and I'm not saying because you can definitely do meds or different kinds of meds, and you go to the place where you're like Cocktails, I don't feel anything ever. Oh, I am midline for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1:

I think rob millions had a skit on that. He was just, he called it the pill, fuck it all. He's like I just want just, yeah, fuck it all. And you, you, I don't, I definitely don't want that. No, um, but it's, that's not fun, it's not fun for anyone.

Speaker 1:

It regulates things so that, like my serotonin levels are not just fucking either through the floor or through the roof. Peak, you're just, you're like in a north, you're you, you're, you're a peak tweaker. You're looking for normal range. Right, I want to stay in the normal range. A little bit up here, a little bit down here, yeah, that's fine, you got highs and lows, still right. But the lows to stay in the normal range A little bit up here, a little bit down here, yeah, that's fine, you got highs and lows still right, but the lows aren't through the fucking floor of hell, right? So they're. They're the low of the normal range, yeah, and like anything when you they're not the low of like and Lucifer, what are you mopping the floor when you get in those big, wide loops?

Speaker 1:

Think about how much momentum is moving. Ride the snake. I've done it before and it's like how do you get off? Sometimes you're like how do I get off? Because you know when you're in the lows, it's going to be longer to get back up to that baseline than it is just to get the quick hit and keep going and then go right back up.

Speaker 1:

Have you ever been on the high, though, and been like I can't come? Oh, you're on the backside of it. You know it's coming. When's the downfall? Oh, yeah, I've definitely been there. And you're like, um, when's this, when's this coming? I hate, I hate. And you're like everything is going so great, I'm getting so much done, like, everybody's in, I'm in a good mood, everybody's in good mood, I got this positivity. And then you, you just at that peak. You're like I'm about to base jump. Yep, I did not pack my shoe. Nope, I'm free base, I'm just gonna smack that slab, yeah, um, but it's like, I mean, if your car gets out of control and it starts veering harder and harder and harder yeah, you just pull the wheel harder Well, it's harder to pull it back in.

Speaker 1:

You know, if you kind of have to make a little dip, you're there, but it's those wide sweeping turns that are hard to come back from. But you got to. You ride with them, right? I mean that's how you learn to control. Yeah, you can't overcor with them, right? I mean that's that's how you learn to control.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like you can't over, correct? Yeah, it's your point you got. You can't over. You can't try to pull it back or pull it, for you know, pull it down but pull it up. That may only apply to cars. No, no, I mean, I think you, I think you have to ride the down because you have to see where you land and you have to see how the natural progression back up. I can see you have to see where you land and you have to see how the natural progression back up. I can see you tempering the up, you know. Just saying you know what. I don't need to go this higher Like I can. I'm good right now. But I don't need to double down, I don't. I don't need to put it all on black.

Speaker 1:

To some extent, I'm the opposite, and it has a bit to do with my mindset, with like chronic illness where, physically, like when I would feel good, I'm like I'm cold trickle, I'm dropping the hammer. No, don't do that, just going out, I just go, cause I'm like this is going to be a, it's going to be an adventure we have. We're not doing NASCAR, we're doing a sprint right now and I'm going to pack as much shit into this race as I can, because I know that, because you know time's finite, I know that I know the downhill is coming and uh, yeah, there was tons of times you're like I'm not drinking and then I would talk to you like two weeks later you're like three margaritas deep at los agaves. I'm like what happened to know that? You're like, no, I'm good right now. Everything in moderation, including moderation, yeah, moderation sucks, yeah. So, uh, walt Whitman said hot takes, yeah, yeah, moderation, uh, it's overrated. It's understanding your responsibilities on either side. It's understanding when to be moderate.

Speaker 1:

There are times when I um, I'll go on vacation and I've had to like stop myself, like I've worked really hard to get here. I'm going to go on vacation and enjoy myself. And then you go hard vacation and then you come home and then you feel really guilty about all the things that you have to go do next. You're like, no, it's okay, those are tasks that are coming, but you're going to get to them. You deserve that little bit of time and it's not like you forwent everything.

Speaker 1:

So a little bit of guilt sometimes that you don't need to feel you got to pull yourself back from. You know what I feel? Like a little bit too right now, like in my life, like, okay, I'm, do you feel guilty for something? No, I'm realistic, I'm unapologetically Brad, I'm realistically halfway through my life. Apologetically brad, I'm. I'm realistically halfway through my life and for for so you're apathetic, for no, I'm the opposite. Oh, you're sympathetic. No, I don't just the opposite, I just was. Why it's systematic? Uh, okay, that's got to go on the sound pad.

Speaker 1:

I've just I've had so much and granted, in the grand scheme of things, like could be way worse, right, obviously, we've talked about this. Always be worse, it always be better, right, but in terms of the things that I have been drawn and attracted to versus the things that my body wants and allows me to do has. They've never really coincided. Yeah, and Jack Daniels in the trunk, brad was not best for Brad. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

But but also I don't know if I didn't have that adversity, if I would really have that drive that I did have. And so now I've, I've kind of fixed some things and I got some things going my way and I just feel like, yeah, I'm uh, I'm going to go after some stuff. You know, um, so I don't know, maybe maybe I'm having like an anti midlife crisis. Right now. You're embracing. Yeah, I'm not just embracing, I'm like I, I know what I want and I, I think I, I have known what I've wanted, but you're not afraid to go after it. You're not. But I always, I always had an excuse before. Excuses are easy, man, I would it. And but then you, a lot of times they were valid, but sometimes, even when they weren't, I was like, yeah, but it could happen. You know, a lot of people get a lot of.

Speaker 1:

There's a lot of paralysis in the what ifs, the analysis. Yeah, that's an easy one to do. Um, you gotta look at the. You know it's the mountain in the foothill in front of you and the footpath, but there's, there still is a reality check of you. Know, what can you realistically do? Yeah, what is also realistically good for you? Yes, so, but, but people underestimate or, sorry, people overestimate what they can accomplish in a day, and people underestimate what they can do in a year. It's true, though If you just do simple things every day, your life changes exponentially, and it's it's that I can't, and I don't think anything. Unfortunately, time is the best teacher for that lesson. You can't instill it without hard lessons. You're going to find a unicorn situation to be able to instill that wisdom on somebody. Yeah, at a young age, uh, because we talked about this a couple episodes.

Speaker 1:

But the consistency of things, a consistency of small things, so, like the consistency of me working out three times a week. Three times a week at like a moderate level. Sometimes, when I'm hung over, not even a moderate level, as Martin will attest to Like, sometimes it's just me sitting on the cap machine with no weight, being like you guys are doing great, keep it up. I'm here for moral support. Can't even do toe touches right now, but the change in a year to just how I feel and the way I look and how my body reacts to things and things that I crave and don't crave, and things like that. That's consistency over a year of doing something three hours a week tops max, at a not super high level either.

Speaker 1:

You know, uh makes changes, and I'm 42, you know. So, oh, do you have way less than half your life left? Technically, I've already doubled what I thought it was going to be. I'm proud of you. So, um, therapy, the same thing. You know lots of changes in that. So, um, therapy the same thing. You know. Lots of changes in that realm, and that's you know. Initially maybe every two weeks, now basically monthly. So you're not talking about a lot of time invested, necessarily, especially over a year. You're talking what? Less than 20 hours maybe, but taking those little bits and then trying to process those through those on a daily basis and and really making changes on that. So it just those little things that are consistent. So, but they're not sexy. That's what people don't get social media likes. They're not.

Speaker 1:

Have you read atomic habits? Yeah, I have not read that. I shouldn't say I've read it. I listened to it. Okay, I was in.

Speaker 1:

I was in a big, uh, 5am walk kick last summer where I'd just wake up and I'd go for an hour long walk before work, which is and then I'd throw a podcast or a book on tape. I like that and it was I'd go for 60 minutes. It was awesome Cause it kind of helped me collect, cause sometimes I have a tendency to get to work and then just kind of dive into something and be a little chaotic. And it allowed me to wake up early and kind of get my thoughts moving and then conceptualizing them and getting them more direct, cause I have a I have a run in first attitude at times and sometimes the, the vision or the underlying why gets lost on people around me, because they're like, well, I already know why, but I don't know how to conceptualize it. I'm like I just know we need to get there, we need to be doing this right now, and they're like I don't see it. And then, but if I, it's like I just know we need to get there, we need to be doing this right now, and they're like I don't see it. And then, but if I, it's like it's just because my brain works that way and I've moved fast and I see more objects than actual concepts sometimes, or finish line, and the moving fast isn't necessarily an issue if your mind is clear, but if you wake up and you go right at it and you haven't had time to process maybe something that you're still holding on to, maybe not as easy to get through that. So, anyway, I think I'm going to start that back up when it gets warmer out.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, I listened to it, but that came across something I was reading the other day, something I was reading the other day, and, and now I'm kind of to the point where I've built a few good habits and broken some bad habits that What'd you break? Um, don't like time, wasting things. Hmm, um, toxic productivity, drinking an unnecessary amount of calories and sugar oh, that's right, you were a big. What were you? Just energy sugar? Oh, that's right, you were a big. What were you? What were your energy drinks? Oh, you know, um, I gave up not that I'm religious, but any stretch of the mean means. Uh, jesus, I gave up pop for Lent when I was still in Catholic school Like I said, we're talking fourth or fifth grade and I just never really went back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, I would drink a lot of soda when I was that, before that age and then I just kind of stopped. I mean I had to go on a heart monitor in high school because of, like surge. Yeah, I mean you might have what we call an imbalance in the brain because you just seem to really gravitate towards items that spike your you know. What's funny, though, is like no drug use I have because, do you know why? Because alcohol. Alcohol is a drug. But yeah, uh, I was, I think, when I was like, when I got into like junior, I was always like advanced reader. So when I was in junior high I was always like advanced reader. So when I was in junior high I was reading like, uh, like Dean Coons type books. Oh, I thought you were reading like little women. No, I read little women. Yeah, I did in first grade. Fourth grade, that was wild.

Speaker 1:

I don't understand any of this, but my comprehension level say I can read it, yeah, um, but but reading things about what did I? What are the people that do autopsies? Coroner? It wasn't a coroner, it was a Investing. Oh, what is the ratio? Csi Miami no, it wasn't, he didn't exist. Yet All competitions now pathologist, but like on dead people, stop any, you know? Yeah, I don't know, you move it. But so I'm reading books about like this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1:

And then she's like, oh, all these people are, uh, ingesting the same amount of heroin from this, blah, blah, blah. I don't know. I was going down a real rabbit hole and all I knew was that heroin was like really addictive, you know, yeah. And then as I was older allegedly as I was older I kind of realized self-awareness wise, like I could potentially have an addictive type of personality to some things. Um, not to like, you know, getting things done on time. Definitely not addicted to that, no, but to to some other things potentially. And so I just never did it Any any of it.

Speaker 1:

I was like, well, I don't, I don't want to go through the scenario of I like it and then I, and then I have to try to get rid of it. Then I got to learn how to come off of it. That's why I always said I'm old-fashioned, I like alcohol and cold turkey is. Do I understand? It's probably worse for my body than some things. It's okay, cold turkey's always been the way that totally works. Yeah, for you, for me. At some point my brain just goes nah, no more, that's nah, no more. That's nice when you can close the door that way and it's not locked, it's just shut. I'll, I'll just go outside.

Speaker 1:

Don't like permanency? Yeah, permanent permanency and moderation, permanency, moderation and permanency, moderation and no, I don't know. No, no, no, don't be permanently moderate. No, be moderately permanent. You got to have those standouts. You know, if you're just moderate all the time, like it's like the depression meds or anxiety meds or anything, that just makes you one, instead of that sign wave that goes up and down, you're just a flat line. Yeah, that's not a good thing. I don't like that. So, anyways, I'm probably not going to stop meds. Good for you.

Speaker 1:

Take that first opinion. I'll take the first opinion. I don't know. It doesn't hurt to get a second opinion, but I might get a third one. I don't see why you wouldn't. Yeah, I'm going. Don't see why you wouldn't.

Speaker 1:

I don't make up my own test. The child, the child, dddd test. I'm going back to school. I'm a BS. Oh, who is that person on the Simpsons? The kid that's like I'm a militia. Oh, I never really watched the Simpsons. I'm a psychiatrist. That's going to be me. Maybe. Maybe that's your Misogi. That's going to be me. Yeah, maybe, maybe that's your Misogi, you're going to go back and get some doctorate, but not through school. You're just going to do your own, your own self-taught. I'm going to do my own research. Okay, I'm going to get my own degree. I wipe my own ass. You really think about it?

Speaker 1:

Institutions just were started by smart people and then they started awarding themselves things themselves. It's a self-regulating. Let's do a regaining system. Let's do an episode on that. On education, the beginning universities, just mostly religious in nature yeah, probably the earliest ones, for sure, because they were the people that could read. I, not from a european standpoint, but from, uh, yeah, still, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who were the earliest scribes religious in western society? Uh, there's the same moses. No, did you know god killed moses? Just found that out the other day.

Speaker 1:

Oh, did you watch the killed Moses, mm-hmm. Just found that out the other day. Oh, did you watch the Ten Commandments on ABC? No, was that the one where he's like pry this firearm from my cold dead hands? Oh, they did a right. They did a modern version. No, wasn't that? Uh, charlton Heston. Oh yeah, he was Moses, right, yeah, with a gun in his. Charlton Heston, oh yeah, he was Moses right. Yeah, with a gun in his hand. Yes, parting the Red Sea. Yeah, colt 45. Yeah, just ready to rock and roll on the Red Sea. That was him. It was a 45 long Colt rifle. You know, oh, lever action. Yeah, I missed the Disney version of that movie. What, what, what? What Disney version? Didn't Disney do Moses? No, yeah, no, yeah, I thought they did. He did all that work, though, and then he just died.

Speaker 1:

Why'd God kill him, the Prince of Egypt, why did he kill him? I just read this the other day and I, you know I kind of felt for him. He disbeyed god, was seeking to kill moses and exodus. Uh, yeah. Then something strange and troubling at a lodging place in the way the lord met moses was about to kill him. Disturbing incident in which god was going to kill moses does not fully explain the text, but we can piece together an idea of what occurred. Here are the clues. God was seeking to kill Moses.

Speaker 1:

Zipporah, moses' wife, took a flint knife and circumcised their son. After the operations, zipporah touched Moses' feet with the foreskin. Zipporah called her husband a bridegroom of blood, referring to the circumcision. At that point, the Lord let him alone. Oh, is this like they walked around the pole the wrong way. I think so. Okay, okay, moses committed some sin against God.

Speaker 1:

A flint knife Yikes. Hopefully that did not infect. Listen, flint can get pretty sharp, not that sharp you don't think you can cut your dick off with. Oh, you can. Okay, yeah, you can. But you're saying precise enough, not very precisely For circumcision.

Speaker 1:

Exodus is a weird book, man, I'm not going to trust it. Okay, that's probably safe If I'm going in to have like two more feet of my intestine removed, the choice of weapon is not flint. No, I'm going to insist that they use flint and they have to record it so that I know it's true. Make sure it's the really grainy one. You can sterilize it all you want to, that's fine, but you got to use it. That's thus spoke me the book of Brad. Yeah, 418.

Speaker 1:

I don't know why Shannon wasn't allowed back there. You know, like when you have a baby and the whoever, whoever's there gets to cut the umbilical cord You're talking about for your why, why, when they were pulling my intestines out, couldn't they be like hey, you want to come in here and just give this a little snip? It's kind of stringy. You just gotta really you gotta get those scissors in there. Do you want to eat it, you want to save it. Put it in a pill form, oh god, no, it doesn't have the same nutrition value, it's not? It's not a good analogy. We do some weird shit in the world. Hey, I didn't even get to keep that. That sucks. Yeah, they probably sent it off to a lab to test. Probably true, came back as negative. Add it's right here, genetically. It's in intestines. Everybody knows that's where we go. Yeah, it's all gut related. Oh, the gut biome. Yeah, so we were talking about Prometheus? No, we weren't.

Speaker 1:

Zeus's punishment for him was the eagle ate his kidney every day. It was a kidney or his liver, was it? Yeah, and then it would grow back every night and the next day the eagle would come and eat it. And the reason why is because it it your kidney or your liver affects your emotions, so like it was just basically like torturing him emotionally all day long. I mean, I feel like eating any of your organs it's probably not. Being alive by a bird would be a torture, yeah, yeah, um, I can't think of one that would be good at all. Nothing, even an appendage. No, nope, you can't think of it, definitely not an organ.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of what tastes good. I've been on a um, chicken in a biscuit and, uh, easy, cheese, cheese whiz, kick lately. So good man, I just threw up in my mouth. Why, if for listeners that haven't had chicken in a, go to the grocery store and pick up a box, wait, oh, those are the crackers. The crackers, yeah, those are good With Cheez Whiz. No, you don't like Cheez Whiz.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, come on man, I don't know what's more American than fucking Cheez Whiz, cheese product cancer. We have a lot of that here. You know, I fucking cheese whiz, let's maybe just go with all the uh pesticides. I mean, there's, there's a lot of things washing the eggs. If I'm gonna, if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna go down because of cheese whiz, then I'm gonna go down. That is. That is a vice and a luxury that I'm not giving up.

Speaker 1:

So, uh, if you say you were a smoker for like 70 years, okay, and they're like, hey, dylan, you got lung cancer, you're like, good, now I'm going to two packs a day. I think you have to dump around. We just were talking about the ebbs and the flows. You gotta just ride that wave man. Yeah, you, just you stop.

Speaker 1:

So you're like you got a clogged artery. What are you eating? You're like fucking cheese whiz, bro, I'll up my intake to two cans a day. Yeah, you got, you got to knock that off. And you're like I don't think so, I don't know. The only way through is through, you know. So when you open my heart up, make sure you squirt a little in there for me. Yeah, it'll, uh, I don't know. Uh, I mean, you could look at it as it's just a bio. Imagine they it's just biology pick line in there and they pull out cheese with coming out of your like listen, listen, this is the way god made me. Okay, this is the way I'm going out. There ain't no other way. Oh, it's kind of like the gufu movie when he makes the leaning tower of chisa. It's not.

Speaker 1:

It's not a good logic, though. What doubling down, just saying like you know God, god wants me to have cheese with arteries. I don't like the idea of giving up the control of your life to something else, which is I feel like there's a lot of shirking of responsibility there. There's come. I can understand the comfort side of that argument, which is I feel like there's a lot of shirking of responsibility there. There's come.

Speaker 1:

I can understand the comfort side of that argument, which is, well, it gives me comfort knowing somebody's looking over me, but I don't like the idea that, well, whatever he wants from me, I don't, I don't, I don't like that. But also like, if he's looking over you and you're eating Cheez Whiz every day and then you get heart disease, that's not what he Does. He just intend that, and so in that sense, you really should double down, because that's what he wants. Right, do we have free will? And if that's not what he wants, he wasn't really looking over you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess there are rules against gluttony. Are you saying that cheese was your gluttonous dude? Watch me, how's cheese with this? I'm just saying. I'm just saying if somebody sees you on the treadmill, they're like, oh the dylan, he's a fucking glutton. Yeah, I work really hard to hide it. Okay, so that's not really gluttony is, is it? No, I'm just feeding my muscles, okay, and the fine specimens that they are, I got to go buy a protein drink. Why? Huh, okay, because I crave it now.

Speaker 1:

All right, look out for Terribly Unoblivious the glutton powder coming to a store near you Cheez Whiz flavored protein powder. It's just going to be Cheez Whiz Protein, whiz flavored protein powder. It's just gonna be cheese protein. Oh, we're on to something. Cheese was in a can. It's gonna be cheese whiz protein with just fucking adderall powder, oh god. And he's just. And you know what you're gonna do before you eat it and he's gonna have a white face, you're gonna. You're gonna do a little whip it right before you're gonna get a little bit of that gas out of the canister and then you're just gonna put it on a chicken and a biscuit. What do we call that? The triple play? You're going to call it the God complex. That's so good. All right, look out for the God complex at a grocery store near you. You're still here. It's over. Go home, go.

Brad and Dylan's Hot Takes
Exploring ADD and ADHD Types
Navigating Life's Highs and Lows
Breaking Habits, Religious History, and Education
Contemplating Free Will and Gluttony