Ever wondered why certain songs make you crave tacos and margaritas instantly? Tune in as we chat about the powerful, almost Pavlovian response to summer jams like "Volver Volver" and our neighbor's relentless Spanish guitar practice. We humorously consider hiring him for his unique talents while pondering whether playing cantina music regularly could solve our Mexican food cravings. Plus, we laugh about our unpredictable podcast schedule—affectionately dubbed "seasonal"—and share heartwarming moments that highlight life's quirks and surprises.
From Margaret Thatcher's legacy to Kurt Cobain's tragic end, our conversation takes unexpected turns. We debate philosophical concepts like Plato's cave and stress inoculation, drawing from past episodes to reflect on their real-world applications. Recent political events and cultural phenomena like Trump, Hunter Biden, and the Met Gala also make an appearance. Plus, our foray into meditation with Sam Harris's app and a nostalgic look at college protests set the stage for a light-hearted cocktail debate: gimlet vs. giblet.
In a more serious vein, we tackle the Israel-Palestine conflict, drawing parallels to local disputes within an HOA. Generational tensions and insights from a former SEAL Team Six member on high-stakes missions add depth to our dialogue. We then examine the intriguing notion of idea ownership, with historical nods to Tesla, Edison, and John Muir. As we wrap up, we discuss national parks' preservation, the impact of technological advancements, and even the dark history of the Donner Party. Join us for a blend of historical insight, cultural reflection, and plenty of laughs.
Ever wondered why certain songs make you crave tacos and margaritas instantly? Tune in as we chat about the powerful, almost Pavlovian response to summer jams like "Volver Volver" and our neighbor's relentless Spanish guitar practice. We humorously consider hiring him for his unique talents while pondering whether playing cantina music regularly could solve our Mexican food cravings. Plus, we laugh about our unpredictable podcast schedule—affectionately dubbed "seasonal"—and share heartwarming moments that highlight life's quirks and surprises.
From Margaret Thatcher's legacy to Kurt Cobain's tragic end, our conversation takes unexpected turns. We debate philosophical concepts like Plato's cave and stress inoculation, drawing from past episodes to reflect on their real-world applications. Recent political events and cultural phenomena like Trump, Hunter Biden, and the Met Gala also make an appearance. Plus, our foray into meditation with Sam Harris's app and a nostalgic look at college protests set the stage for a light-hearted cocktail debate: gimlet vs. giblet.
In a more serious vein, we tackle the Israel-Palestine conflict, drawing parallels to local disputes within an HOA. Generational tensions and insights from a former SEAL Team Six member on high-stakes missions add depth to our dialogue. We then examine the intriguing notion of idea ownership, with historical nods to Tesla, Edison, and John Muir. As we wrap up, we discuss national parks' preservation, the impact of technological advancements, and even the dark history of the Donner Party. Join us for a blend of historical insight, cultural reflection, and plenty of laughs.
This is the Terribly Unoblivious Podcast. Yep, I said it before and I'll say it again Life moves pretty fast.
Brad:You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. You don't know this song, do you I?
Dylan:wrote this song. You wrote Volver Volver, yeah.
Brad:God, this just has summer jams written all over it. You do know how often I eat in Mexican restaurants. Right, I forgot about that. I do know that song. That is an absolute banger and classic. Last night at baseball there was.
Dylan:The style was hard to interpret it almost sounded like the beginning of a mariachi band, but like, are we talking dugout music or no? No, no, no. This was like announcer music.
Brad:This was a house like two blocks away, oh okay, and we couldn't realize if it was just somebody playing really loud or if there was a street fest of some sort going on. No, it was just a dude that was just practicing this one song over and over and over, at full volume, so it had a very Spanish guitar kind of vibe to it. Okay, it sounded a little mariachi, but electric, if you can imagine, like a steel guitar. No, not a steel guitar, it was just a guitar, but okay. But the like, the rhythms and the and all that were okay, were similar and he was gonna get really good at like that one particular song how long do you think he's been practicing for?
Dylan:um?
Brad:I think years just on that one song, the one song and we've only gotten five bars.
Dylan:One of the other coaches only five bars.
Brad:And one of the other coaches was like I swear I remember this song from last year and he would just occasionally crank the amp up and go to town on this is it, the arsenal that does taps in the morning and at night?
Dylan:no, they do rev. They do revelry in the morning that he taps at night, correct? So you think this guy just thinks he's the the electric mariachi band guy for the baseball diamond and that's just his job no no because?
Brad:no, because it's not every time it should be you guys might need to hire him now.
Dylan:I kind of like I need you here on your deck blasting the hybrid steel guitar.
Brad:I I do want to start blasting some music. I think like what? Probably what you started with volvera.
Dylan:Oh god, there's so much good, so much good. Can't we'll call cantina music. Yeah, that's yeah I have been.
Brad:Maybe we've talked about this before, but I've been trained to like the pavlov dogs. My mouth waters when I hear it, because I don't typically hear cantina music.
Dylan:Street tacos, burritos, chips, salsa, margarita.
Brad:Any of it. I hear the music and I'm like I really want some Mexican food right now.
Dylan:That's awesome.
Brad:Which leads me to believe.
Dylan:You're eating at the wrong restaurant.
Brad:No, that if, if I happen to be in a place or maybe suddenly start just listening to that music all the time, that I might get big because I would just eat.
Dylan:Okay, martin, and I now have an experiment behind your back. I need to text, martin, and we are going to just constantly, anytime we see you, speaking of seeing you been a while. April 8th last podcast. Um, it's only june last podcast.
Brad:Uh, the aired, aired, sorry, air date so that means either two years ago, I don't even remember Was it late March, or did we do one right before? Well, I believe we decided that maybe these are seasonal now.
Dylan:We did talk about having seasons, but that was probably a moment of weakness.
Brad:Nah, welcome to season two where all this shit falls out.
Dylan:Yeah, speaking though while you were on the phone with your world falling apart. Um on on this world, on on april 8th, that day in the world, margaret thatcher died, 2013 april 8th. Is she like a model? Margaret thatcher was the first female prime minister of the uk. Oh right, yeah, like a role model. Yeah, exactly good, you pulled that one in her and her and ronnie right, mr reagan, president, reagan to you fought the commies oh, I thought you were to say the affair word, no, no, I think Reagan had a babe of a wife.
Dylan:Did they win? I don't know. I think that's in Charlie Wilson's war. They took the wall down. They did take the wall down. They did some cool shit in Afghanistan, but obviously that worked out well for us. No, no, that was when the Soviets what?
Brad:No, the Soviets did no that.
Dylan:But we did some cia underground we. Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, of course we did so. Oh, the other one was kurt cobain, found three days after his suicide in 94 I just happened to walk by and I didn't see this body laying here.
Brad:No, no.
Dylan:Door open On cue.
Brad:As always, door always opens, except this time it's a hot dude instead of a hot chick.
Dylan:So what was the last episode's theme that we did?
Brad:Oh Stress, inoculation Nope.
Dylan:Fire shadows.
Brad:Underwater bomb making.
Dylan:Jesus, you gotta get us fucking. Why you gotta put?
Brad:Why you?
Dylan:always gotta get us flagged.
Brad:What you always have to get us flagged. You can't say bomb no, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. Hot takes.
Dylan:That would be a hot take. That would be a hot take. No, plato's caveman. Oh right, right, I feel like we've been living in it.
Brad:You know, you know what's kind of fun, what is actually taking some of the lessons uh that we talk about yeah and actually be about. Or do you actually take it and apply them? How have you applied them? What have we talked about? What was the Japanese fire?
Dylan:god, the deity I don't remember.
Brad:What was that one about? Masogi Doing hard?
Dylan:shit, they danced around the pole.
Brad:Yeah, the wrong way.
Dylan:I've done some.
Brad:Masogi.
Dylan:A little bit. You braved the wilderness I did.
Brad:That was kind of a Masogi. What else did you do? A lot of conflict, shit.
Dylan:So your Masogi was conflict yeah.
Brad:I don't like it. I don't like doing it.
Dylan:Brave in the wilderness, so you want to talk about it. Sports, know. I feel like the the general theme of this podcast is you venting about sports yeah, it's really not about sports, though, is it?
Brad:what do you think it's about? I don't know.
Dylan:You think ted lasso is about soccer coach beard makes it about soccer he does.
Brad:He does a little bit.
Dylan:Rook Rook to be 12. That's not. There's no 12 in chess but rook to be four.
Brad:Uh yeah, it's just that's not what it's about.
Dylan:Life lessons man. Yeah Well speaking of life, life lessons. Do you know what's happened since our last podcast? Trump has been convicted. Hunter Biden has been convicted. The House vacated Speaker Johnson's dismissal case. The Met Gala happened. I don't. Ye wasn't there, so it doesn't matter. I don't. I'm't. He wasn't there, so it doesn't matter. I don't, I'm still in the college protests that one got wild.
Brad:I didn't see any of that. I did listen to uh, I've been listening to some Sam Harris. Actually, I'm going to get into meditation, Okay Of some sort. Okay Of some sort Okay. He has the waking up app that is the meditation app. That's right, and recently I've been getting them for a year. I'm not officially signed up on the app to access everything.
Dylan:So you're like half pregnant.
Brad:That's not a thing? I don't think that's a thing. It's not a thing. No, I don't think so.
Dylan:Okay.
Brad:But they send you a little daily update, okay, and it's a little 30 to 60 second blurb from him typically.
Dylan:Hi, I'm Sam Harris. Just take a moment and then it's just a real quick when you wake up one morning and say I'm replaying the ben affleck interview. Oh god the.
Brad:The ben affleck interview is very pertinent to the college protest.
Dylan:I don't even remember what episode we did that on, but that one was it feels a little that way, doesn't? It actually not, it is. It is exactly that way is it so fancy ben affleck that we sorry. We cut that real fast because we had cocktails delivered to us and so we had to take a cocktail break yeah, we have three ounces of dry gin, two ounces of lime juice and four lime wedges.
Brad:No, and ice.
Dylan:Oh, that's, you, just read the gimlet recipe off the rocks glass okay I don't know what a gimlet is.
Brad:That's fake gold rim isn read the gimlet recipe off the rocks glass.
Dylan:I don't know what a gimlet is. That's fake gold rim.
Brad:Isn't the gimlet like this part of a chicken that's a giblet? Is that a giblet, that's a giblet, or is that like their taint? That's your taint? Kfc sells that.
Dylan:So we think the Ben Affleck situation is a lot like the current college situation.
Brad:Yes.
Dylan:Okay, talk me through your reason.
Brad:I know I, I believe I wanted to bring this up Ooh, that's tasty Months ago, because this has been going on since October 7th with the whole Israel Palestine thing and there is a bit of confusion over who is allegedly the good guy and the bad guy in this sense.
Dylan:I like that you use the word allegedly. We're getting better at this political correctness on this podcast.
Brad:So you have people calling for a ceasefire, right um which there was one.
Brad:And then one side decided to kill a thousand people and take hostages and rape women and kill kids. Okay, and uh, then that ceasefire stopped, because that's not how ceasefires work. And uh, you have one side that is governed by a theocracy of we're going to destroy anyone that's not like us, especially these people right next to us, and somehow I guess diplomacy will work. Has to right. So this relates to the Ben Affleck thing in the sense that Sam Harris was talking about like Islamists, so the true, like jihadists, the wagers of wars, and there's degrees to this, so there's the people that will do it and people that can be recruited to do it, and then there's a very large percentage of people that will agree with those people. So in Palestine you have Hamas running the country. Right News to me Hamas has like a 50-ish percent approval rating among the populace of Palestine across states like this, there's an unusually large percentage of people that agree with.
Brad:So you have something like October 7th happen, and while the governing power may only have 50% approval rating, an attack like that gets something like an 80% approval rating. Attack like that gets something like an 80% approval rating. So that's not people that are willing to negotiate peacefully, no. And when you see civilians being killed by basically a counterinsurgency, you know from Israel nobody's saying that that's good?
Brad:Yeah, nobody it's not. Nobody's saying that that's good? Yeah, nobody it's not. But neither is going into another country and and killing a thousand noncombatants no. So there, there's a moral discrepancy here between what people think Israel is doing and what people think Palestine is doing. Like well, one side, you know, uh, hide their combatants under schools and hospitals and take foreign aid and and build tunnels and and build military and buy things like that instead, is not doing that to their people so yes, this reminds me a lot of um the hoa.
Dylan:We need to defund the hoa here in uh old brookwood that was okay, we, I have I have neighbors gotta say I was are just unwilling to negotiate right now. Yeah, trying to combine these condos. It's just not going to happen.
Brad:It's not going to happen.
Dylan:It's going to happen.
Brad:There's going to be a hole in the wall. It's probably not going to happen. No, no, no.
Dylan:My construction advisor has written long paragraphs to me advising me against it. It's a a paragraph, it was like two, and when he takes the time to write more than one paragraph, you know he's serious.
Brad:Paragraphs. Do not make an essay.
Dylan:He will remain anonymous, but I would like to take time to thank our sponsor, mrdc Distilling Company, right now time to thank our sponsor, mrdc Distilling Company.
Brad:right now it's uh, can't we just do it like what? What's the? What's the prison? What's that big prison movie?
Dylan:The Great.
Brad:Escape no, no, no, no, no. Alcatraz no, what's the most famous one?
Dylan:Shawshank Redemption yes, thank you Listen?
Brad:there's just a hole right behind this picture right here. That's literally what my lawyer told me, and we just go through it.
Dylan:My lawyer's. Like if you put a hole in the wall, nobody can go in, he goes. Is it legit? No, he goes. But are you going to be in trouble?
Brad:No, and I'm like I love this legal advice. Guess what's on the other side? Another big picture that I own, hey, you remember how we did the slider downstairs for the taps.
Dylan:Yeah, you know, I've only ever used that tap system once. It was a world cup. That's one more time. Us first, croatia, no, england versus croatia and england lost. That was a long time ago. It was a long time ago it was probably't a long time ago. It was probably eight years ago, 2016,.
Brad:I think how good am I.
Dylan:No, yeah, 2018. Nah, 18. It would have been 18. It had been 18, 22. And then it'll be 26. Yeah, 16 is when we did it, though I think we. We bought this in 16, and then you did a lot of work.
Brad:Um, we bought this in 16 and then you did a lot of work. Yeah, I have pictures pop up from when I used to take pictures from when I used to care. It's a good time. Yeah, I don't care about anything anymore.
Dylan:Not trying to be funny with situation, but it is that whole. Like you have neighbors that are just, it is talking, it seems like an impossibility. When you talk about israel and palestine, it's like this was a really bad relocation at some point.
Brad:Uh yeah, yeah, there's. You can talk till you're blue in the face about you know the history and and all of that. But essentially one side thinks that they're going to spend eternity in paradise for doing doing horrific. Yeah, and the other side doesn't. Yeah, and that's a hard battle to win yeah, so the other?
Dylan:one is is you? You create generational, and I'll use the term I was listening to. Do you know DJ Shipley? He's ex DJ Shipley.
Brad:That one. Yeah, oh, that's Khaled, kuk Khaled.
Dylan:Kukli.
Dylan:No, no, but he um ex SEAL Team Six guy and he talks about we would go and we would have months where we'd be after one guy, one guy, one guy.
Dylan:He's like that picture of that guy, that docket of that guy would be next to my computer and I would be typing off emails and I would just see this guy over, like I'm that our mission, my, my squadron's mission, is to go after this guy and we'd get intelligence and to be like we think we have him and then we wouldn't. And he goes after six, seven months. You finally are like we think we have them and then we wouldn't. And he goes after six, seven months. You finally are like we have legit, we're going on the mission, we're going to go get this guy, he goes. We'd go raid the compound, we take them out, and then all of a sudden, three or four little kids come out and are on top of their dad or their uncle or whoever it is. Yeah, and they'd be wailing and he's like, and then I would get transported back to the United States and be like what would my kids do if somebody come and raid?
Brad:in my house.
Dylan:And he's like and what you do is you've just created the next generation that has hate. Just like they see you.
Dylan:They see the flag on your on your uniform and they're like I hate that country and so like that's what these little skirmishes do. They create another generation of people that are like I absolutely hate that other side because this is what they took from me. Yeah, and that's what these little micro and you don't want to say micro in a negative term, like minimizing it, but they are micro skirmishes. They're not grand wars. These micro skirmishes do. It creates the next generation of militant versus the other side yeah, and it is never ending.
Brad:Somebody I can't remember who got in trouble for saying that. Um, if that was during afghan Iraq, where it was, I can't remember. If it was a political leader, it was one of ours.
Dylan:Yeah.
Brad:And something to the extent of like kill the entire generation of blah, blah, blah, and that doesn't even work.
Dylan:No, no it it cause there's always going to be stories.
Brad:History gets passed down, it can't there's always going to be stories.
Dylan:History gets passed down.
Brad:It can't there's always going to be something to rally around. There's going to be there's still going to be a similar entity, if not in the immediate location, in a surrounding location or in a country that has similar beliefs, and that's going to start all over again in a new space. What Harris talks about is so you could say, like the main tenant of Christianity is that Jesus died and arose from the dead. Right Like that's kind of that's kind of the thing. And now there's there's probably a few sects of Christianity that they're like yeah, that's not like a legit, like we don't think he really came back from the dead, you know. And he's like okay, so now you've changed this, like this isn't Christianity anymore, it's a different version of it, and essentially he's like I guess moderate or I guess you could say, liberal Muslims. Those are the voices that need to be heard right now, because that's what you want.
Dylan:You want to move away from the hard line, yeah, the hard line. So this, this or nothing. And if you don't, you know uh, well, it's.
Brad:you know, like what? What is happening through Hamas that Muhammad either didn't do or wouldn't be proud of? You know, I mean, that's kind of where he goes with it. And you know, if, if you're muslim and you don't believe that, that then that's the view that needs to get pushed, so that it does get more moderated and you lose less of this. You can't even say extremism because you're following, you're following the book, that's it. It would be the same with Christianity if everyone followed verbatim what's in the Bible and the laws from the Old Testament. Well, no, we can stone her, that's fine. I'm just reading the book and following the book, that's what.
Dylan:I'm doing. You played the game telephone growing up. How often did you actually get all the way around the circle Wait what telephone game did you play? Do you remember Somebody start with a secret word at the beginning, and then they'd whisper it in their neighbor's ear, and then it had to come all the way back around the circle, it was like, and then the last person had to say what the word was, that's.
Dylan:and then the last person that is, had to say what the word was. That's not the game we played in circle. Were you playing blow and suck? What suck and blow? Is that the one from clueless where, like you, start to make it?
Brad:out. No, no pickup sticks oh like what are you doing? Did you play?
Dylan:jacks too, nope, no, no, don't lie to me, you look like bounce, bounce the ball, let's go. How many Jacks did we pick up? Always picked up two Jacks, no, but it's that, the translations, the, the different scrolls, the. You know, you kind of go through time and you were talking a game of millennia of telephone, so you can't make it with 13 kids.
Brad:How are you gonna do it over the years, not saying it's all wrong, but like no. So christianity has has definitely like toned down over the years, right, and I miss the borgias man.
Dylan:They had style and grace. Okay, marble, they raided. They raided the coliseum, took the marble, made their own beautiful statues. It was great. Why wouldn't? You, I, I don't know maybe just the richest royal family in the italy too. I don't know all right coincidence, I think let's play a quick game. I I went to catholic school I love, I love it.
Brad:That's not. That's not that kind of game I don't know I don't know what, I don't know what kind of games.
Dylan:Confession no.
Brad:Library of Alexandria.
Dylan:Okay, okay.
Brad:We're playing a game Library of Alexandria.
Dylan:What Is?
Brad:it 4K Could have been in there. What could have been in there? That would just blow your mind.
Dylan:Do you want my serious answer or my sarcastic answer?
Brad:I want something hopefully entertaining.
Dylan:That's all. Am I going to tee it up for you, because I know you want to say it?
Brad:I don't have anything in particular. Is it the A?
Dylan:word that you always somehow bring it in Aliens, oh no.
Brad:No.
Dylan:I did it this time, I saying like a really really good, uh, like instapot recipe or something.
Brad:Oh my god, yeah. And then they burned that thing and we just went back to the stone age. What happens if they had like?
Dylan:alexas, before that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying just this advanced civilization random flood fire, everybody talks about it, and then, woman scorned, she just starts a fire in the city. And all the advanced civilization.
Brad:They found all of these texts and they're all in the library and they're like we know. We know that these civilizations existed 10 000 years ago. Here's all the things. This chicken, bacon, ranch instapot recipe is fucking bomb. We can't figure out how they had electricity yet, but they had it and then gone, gone for ages, oh god but really it just comes back around, then you know well, that's um rick.
Dylan:Uh, who's the big music producer ross? No, no, no, ruben, I bought, I bought, I've bought in the book for a couple friends and I have it for myself. Um, it's rick rubin, rick rubin, yes, sorry, but the creative, the creative act, the creative way, is his book that he wrote. But he talks about how you don't own ideas. They're in the universe and it's for you to actualize and realize. And and it's like how many times have you had an idea where somebody else has that idea? Haven't we talked about this? We have, but it is that it's, it's a little bit of that, it is, and I get so pissed when it happens and you're like I think I'm so fucking smart and original, yeah.
Brad:And then it comes back and it's like but he said this 300 years ago.
Dylan:He's conceptualized something that people don't normally process like oh my god, somebody else thought of it, somebody else did this bubble. It's like maybe he's right. There is no true invention, there's only actual realization and actualization of it it's, it's for someone to decide they're going to take it to fruition and yeah, because that's super cool and unique. I mean that that just to me that means any infinite possibilities for that.
Dylan:That's a really exciting concept to me for individuals which is I don't need to be the smartest, I don't need to be the most athletic, I don't need to be the you know whatever it's, there are things out there that I can actualize and I can and produce on for the betterment of humanity and myself. Remember we talked about this where?
Brad:what were we discussing, but it was a guy that probably bullshit what were we discussing, but it was a guy that Probably bullshit it was a guy that essentially was developing apps in like the 80s. Do you remember this? Oh, but there was no real source for him to like put them on.
Dylan:Yeah, there's no internet, and so he had all of these ideas, yeah.
Brad:And then was way on to something else. By the time he was doing software as a service before there was even a platform to host it on, you know so by the time the technology comes around, where his idea is actually useful, he's on to something completely different, and it's so. Whoever came up with some of the first apps that actually got patented and used?
Dylan:that wasn't your idea mm-hmm.
Brad:It was just an actualization of something that was unable to happen earlier, mm-hmm, or that people were unable to use earlier Nikola. Tesla, all about wireless charging, yeah allegedly allegedly him in him in Edison like my finger and power up my car.
Dylan:I'm team. I'm team Tesla. I'm team Tesla oh, he got assassinated. Mm-hmm, edison was kind of a bitch. The more you read about him, allegedly, the more you read about Edison. It's kind of your little bitch. It's kind of like when you, when you grow up thinking like, oh my god, this guy's great, and then you read about Christopher Columbus, you're like, oh no, we're not fans of this guy. What'd he do? I don't know.
Brad:I'll let you read about that one. Not good, you know, the one that shocked me. And then instantly I feel like in today's age we're not really surprised by anything Balto John Muir. Oh yeah, and it's yeah. You get into some like kind of crazy situations there because you come across people that in a major way shape some form of our lives or surroundings, or something like that, do you?
Dylan:want to explain John Muir to people, because not everyone's probably going to Do you want to explain John Muir to people, because not everyone's probably going to.
Brad:So John Muir and Teddy Rosewell, essentially kind of the grandfathers of the national park system.
Dylan:Yep We've talked about this in the first few episodes. I think you, Shannon, and I talked about him A little bit Because you were on the trees thing.
Brad:I was on the trees thing and there's also a national parks podcast that discusses this a little bit, but given the timeframe he was definitely not for any Native Americans.
Dylan:Get them out of here. This is our land.
Brad:And not only that, it was against the ways that they had been treating the land for thousands of years. And so it takes about two seconds to realize that, oh, you guys been here for 2 000 years and this place is beautiful.
Dylan:You must have fucked it up but a little bit of hardscaping right there is going to go a long way. We're going to be able to put on a. We're going to be able to put it on a postage stamp. We're going to put it on a postcard. You're going to love it, trust me. This limestone bridge, where the rock is not native. You're going to love it, trust me. We're going to ship it in from the Midwest. It's going to be great, have you guys?
Brad:heard of concrete, listen, listen, listen, concrete, over all the roots. Okay, this is we're gonna protect them.
Dylan:This is like the guy that invented glue.
Brad:We've talked about this before, like well, let's just hate horses, hated horses horses and we're gonna make glue it's.
Dylan:We brought concrete to the national parks. Trust me, you'll love it everyone. You guys don't know what you're talking about hey, uh I.
Brad:I was out in that fire pit where you were burning gimme five last night night and fucking lost my boots in there, sticky son of a bitch. And thus Elmer's was born, but it goes back. I mean, like with the mirror thing. They they instantly took away fire from these national park areas, you know, where fire had been instrumental in keeping the land as it is for thousands of years.
Dylan:Everyone thinks of forest fires as terrible things we're like. No, actually fires are good because it prevents overgrowth. It's not what we do nowadays and how we've directed water and other things.
Brad:We have major catastrophes happen, but it is a part of nature where there's a there's a burning, there's carbon there, you know, I've all everything with the day, but with the introduction of that and the lack of fire, you now come into a situation where, uh, take, like the giant Sequoias where there used to be small, uh, you know, like smaller burns, and those giant trees are basically designed in such a way to withstand that.
Dylan:Yeah. And now it's hard, yeah, yeah. And tall like they, you know it doesn't get to our, it's got to get through a thick bar. Two hour drywall.
Brad:We need, between you know, firewalls, actually no and now, with the lack of clearing and the amount of fuel that is available, uh, that's I mean. You have flames reaching hundreds of feet where they. They can't withstand that anymore. They're not protected like that, they're protected down low.
Dylan:Isn't that how you rate a bonfire, though, like your buddy only gets flames to six feet, you get eight feet. Like you built a better bonfire. You know what amazes me, yeah people how that they're still here it. It does definitely seem like we've been able to keep the craps table going too long. I haven't rolled the dice.
Brad:I did see someone reasonably close to my house pouring gasoline all over a brush pile. Oh God. And then? It's been a moist spring, seemingly trying to light it without realizing that the vapor is going to expand. Is what is flammable, not the liquid.
Dylan:Luckily for them.
Brad:he was not able to find the vapor, so guys, how are? We Slow burn liquid. Okay, not gasoline, not gasoline. I think I've watched.
Dylan:I've watched oppenheimer since oh, I have not I've watched oppenheimer since we've we've had our last one and to your point of how are we still here? How the fuck are we still here? We invented the most deadly thing in the world and we released two and we stopped there. How did we stop?
Brad:Oh, we released more than two.
Dylan:On people All right.
Brad:Well, how, some how.
Dylan:On large populations. We are not what we call controlled people. Well, there's been two instances that we are aware of call a controlled people.
Brad:Well, there's been two instances that we are aware of. One would be the initial testing of the atomic bomb where they weren't entirely sure how it was going to play out. What happens when you split an atom?
Dylan:Well, that was the best part is the theory, and they're like I don't know, let's press this button. They're talking about the theorists and they're like well, we know it's possible, this is what's happening, this is how it's going to go about. But there's a non-zero chance. Once the chain starts, it won't stop, which means the entire world blows up because the atoms will not stop splitting the atoms around them and it'll just chain react all over the world. So before they hit the button, they're just like I mean, it's like 99.9 sure that we're not gonna blow the world up, but like there's still 0.1 chance, like the math can't tell us it won't happen. What's the? Uh? How do you like? That's some hubris. That is some like we're smarter than you, Don't worry about it, we got it Shit. Like you are speaking for the entire world right now. You're not elected officials, you've been chosen. Nobody knows, this program exists and we're making decisions for the human race.
Brad:Yeah, I mean, that's a and that's essentially what it became, because that's what nuclear war is now right now like we now have the ability to annihilate.
Dylan:Annihilate someone russia, by the way, just not, and by we, 26 miles off the off the coast of florida today well, there was a. We'll have to look this up sometime apparently the cia knows there's no nuclear cargo. How the fuck do you know that?
Brad:It's by how low the van rides.
Dylan:I think Is it like the barges on the Mississippi, you know, like the payloads, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're up high, they're down low. What was?
Brad:that one, mark Wahlberg, you know with the Mini Coopers, like they know the Italian job.
Dylan:Yeah, they know.
Brad:Yeah.
Dylan:It's easy. I was actually thinking about the Italian job today. I was thinking about Seth Green being super hacker, because I'm in IT and everyone's like, oh man, how many hackers do you know? I'm like, do you understand how many?
Brad:hackers do you know Personally? I got their names.
Dylan:I don't want to talk about it, but hacking is not what Hollywood makes it out to be.
Brad:Hacking is people sitting in front of a computer screen going no, no, maybe, if I try, no Hacking is just like do we want to release all of these names of guys that have had affairs on this website?
Dylan:Pretty much Ashley Madison.
Brad:So that's what ransomware has pretty much found out so that's what ransomware has pretty much found out and is um we? I feel like hacking is a lot more about selling personal information than anything else.
Dylan:No, they'll give you your stuff back.
Brad:They actually have really great helplines, like if you they'll I don't mean like identity theft per se, I just mean like, oh, here's, here's 500 000 names and and information we're going to give it to.
Dylan:So ransomware and hacking in general mostly targets industries that are regulated by the government, that aren't allowed to release sensitive information.
Brad:Horse racing.
Dylan:No, they're not going to fucking care, but they have the most like HIPAA, finra, all these organizations. You can get fined heavy. You can be found Orthodontist, yes, okay, yeah, orthodontist, dentist, dentists and orthodontists probably have the weakest IT footprint out of anyone I ever work with, and typically they're cheap. Sorry if anyone's listening, but they go after people that they know are up against government regulations and will get sued, and so what they'll do is they'll say, you'll pay us. And it's like, oh, fuck you, I have backups, take it all, I don't care. And now they're like, okay, well, we'll release your names and you're going to have a bunch of lawsuits. So like they kind of put you between a rock and a hard place and they've, they've learned that like non-regulated industries. Or it's like, oh cool, you know how many t-shirt sizes brad likes to buy from my shopify store.
Brad:Like what are you gonna? What are you gonna do with that? Yeah, and so now, what are you gonna do? Look amazing, yeah, and good luck.
Dylan:So it's it, and I tell people, if anyone wants to find your social security number, they can find out.
Brad:Like your social security number isn't that unique to you anymore yeah, just ask me, it's eight, five, six, two, four, six, one, eight, one. Did you just wait? Can you bleep that out eight?
Dylan:seven. Don't forget to edit that. Eight, six, seven, nine, three, oh five, what no, it wasn't jesse's girl that's not the song.
Brad:That's close okay so fucking barrage me with that 80s. So the the second one. So atomic bomb was first one, the second one was, uh, the hydron collider hydrogen.
Dylan:Oh, it's cern, uh-huh yeah, where they're making dark matter uh, where they thought they might they buried it a couple feet underground.
Brad:Don't worry, it's like the frost line, you'll be fine uh, water's not gonna freeze, you'll be okay, I don't know I got.
Dylan:I got some pretty big concerns about do you think the donner party was worried about frost line?
Brad:they followed the wrong person. They you know.
Dylan:Leadership matters, leadership does matter, doesn't it? Yes, you imagine something. You imagine the daughter. Sometimes you follow the guy that gets Shit. Does matter, doesn't it? Yes, you imagine. You imagine the Donner party.
Brad:Sometimes you follow the guy that gets lost and will do whatever it takes to survive.
Dylan:The Donner party has a building inspector and they're like oh, you're not below the frost line, we're not going to pass this building. Talk about alternate reality.
Brad:That is a very wild story. That's a wild story. We should do an episode on that it's not going to be as good as last podcast on the left.
Dylan:Oh, they did do one, they did a deep dive on that, our friend Matt. The wedding we're going to tomorrow, Not you, me, the greater we meaning me. I don't have friends and my multiple personalities are heading to see Matt tomorrow. He's a massive Donner Party fan. Well, it is Colorado. No, were they in Utah, or were they in Colorado?
Brad:I think they were in.
Dylan:Colorado? I don't remember. They're in that 1994 video game called the Oregon Trail, who the Donner Party Were they no.
Brad:Shut up God. You can't cross the Kansas River. Eight't cross. You can't cross the.
Dylan:Kansas river Eight bit system.
Brad:You got to afford it. I have a Chevy. No, that's not what it means. Donner party of six.
Dylan:Right. Well, if they're going through Kansas no, I'm thinking about Nebraska. I'm thinking about um Kansas. No, I'm thinking about Nebraska. I'm thinking about what's the fast food chain that they do like the Hot Pockets, but they're not Hot Pockets. Runza Do you think that the Donner Party got Runza on the way? Is that like diarrhea? It will run through you. The Runza will run through you. They're like Cornish Pasties. Is that what the? The official?
Brad:Sierra Nevada. They're in this year in Nevada. Oh completely wrong side of the country Jesus, sorry, not really. Just keep going West.
Dylan:Oh sorry On the other side, yeah, yeah, sorry.
Brad:Cause they were going. Yeah, yeah.
Dylan:They, uh. So they were on their way to Cali and they got stuck.
Brad:Yeah, I mean, it turns out that how many were left at the end?
Dylan:How many started?
Brad:and how many were left. So you know what the bad part was about it, right?
Dylan:They tagged the body so you didn't eat your own family member. Uh no, I don't think so that that that's what they did. They're like oh, your dad died, so we're going to tag him with your last name so we know that you don't get his meat to survive.
Brad:I would have to go back and read it, but I believe there's two different things. So there's the cannibalism and the, so it's called something different. So when you kill somebody and eat them, it's cann different things. So there's there's the cannibalism and the, so it's called something different. So when you kill somebody and eat them, it's cannibalism, and if they're just dead and you find them and you eat them, it's it's called something different. What's?
Dylan:it called when you eat a human. Do you imagine what my dinner? Do you imagine what list I'm going on right now? My Google what?
Brad:Imagine what list I'm going on right now on my Google. What's it called Dinner, and don't kill them? I have CAPTCHA pop up when I want to look at a bicycle. So the fact that I look up Donner cannibalism and it doesn't stop me leads me to believe that my safety devices are not working properly. Oh, anthropophagy, anthropophagy, Anthropophagy, yeah, that's when you just eat someone that's already dead Is eating human flesh without killing anyone.
Dylan:Jesus man.
Brad:Like in, it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. You never saw that episode.
Dylan:What Rum?
Brad:ham. No, no, frank gives them. Who does? He give Charlie and Dee and he says it's human flesh. Yeah, and then they get a taste for it. Oh that's right, and they're trying to figure out how to get more and they're they're going through all these different ways and they're like going to the morgue and they're doing all this stuff and then in the end it's just Frank being like as raccoon meat you crazies.
Brad:It's lousy with parasites, don't eat raccoon meat we have, and if you do eat it in the South, where they know how to cook it.
Dylan:We have covered the gambit so far, man. I guess we had a lot of pent-up energy. I guess I needed this Good for you.
Brad:You want to talk about sports? No, no, no, no, I'm retiring. Why, why no? Well, here's a couple of ideas. Mountain biking is fun.
Dylan:Professional mountain biker. Okay, no, no, no, no, you're old. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Brad:Okay, not professional mountain biking.
Dylan:Okay. Just riding a bike outside for the rest of your life.
Brad:No, Not forever, just sometimes for fun.
Dylan:Yeah, are you going to get an?
Brad:e-bike no, okay, no, just making sure.
Dylan:Do you?
Brad:cop. What are we giving up? Well, the world needs pitch takers too. Yeah, some days I want to just do that, yeah, yeah. What are we giving up to do things that we think we want to do when there's other things that we probably would enjoy doing more? And what do you think you?
Dylan:want to do Like what I'm talking recreationally, not professionally. Okay, what do you do? Recreation, recreation. Well, in terms of that you think you want to do versus what you actually want to, do in terms of our youth? Okay.
Brad:Uh, we, we subscribe to a set of specific sports that are available to us, so not everybody such as just baseball basketball, soccer football those kind of things. Those are the programs available and those are the programs that you do. And then you have uh offshoots where people are like you. You know what I don't like this? I'm gonna play lacrosse.
Dylan:Yeah.
Brad:Yeah, okay, cool.
Dylan:And then you have further offshoots where, or they're like.
Brad:I'm going to get into, you know, bmx racing. I'm going to get into mountain bike racing. I'm going to get into rock climbing.
Dylan:Yeah.
Brad:And you kind of keep pushing farther it's. You know, there's probably still some issues, but on a much smaller scale, because really it's just fucking fun to do and you don't need anybody else to do it.
Dylan:So you're talking about isolating and compounding the shit in your head I love it.
Brad:And also, this is totally you, man, I get this. I know where we're going.
Dylan:Enjoying just this is being moody and broody by myself in the outdoors, moody snowboarding. Skiing is not about skiing. For me, skiing is about operas, it's about champagne yes, drinking oysters it's a couple moguls, a little bit of trees. It just happens that I'm really good at those. So everyone's like, oh, dylan. And I'm like, don't worry about it, I'm ready for the champagne and the oysters yeah, but I saw, I saw that dude get buried by snow and I that's what makes it fun.
Brad:I don't, I don't know that that's fun. Buried alive is not fun.
Dylan:I don't think I'm going to be having fun if it happens to me, but like it makes it a little bit.
Brad:Just don't kill me to eat me. Wait till I'm dead. Okay, Just do Anthropop. Whatever Anthropomorphization it's not anthropomorphization. Wait until you can imagine that I'm some kind of animal and then you can eat me Anthropophagy, isn't that what that is?
Dylan:Anthropophagy.
Brad:Yeah, yeah.
Dylan:Anthropophagy. I won't do it, so you just want to be so. What you're saying is is is like kids, just go be in your own echo chamber, be moody and broody by yourself out in the no no, no, no no, I'm saying what about dual, not what about like downhill racing, where you're doing like adrenaline? Dumps oh, not adrenaline dumps, that's an adrenaline dump. You know, you guys are doing like ski hit, like downhill, where you guys are racing dual tracks against each other for time trials.
Brad:Okay, well, let's cross country racing. Let's simplify it.
Dylan:Okay, let's talk about it.
Brad:Let's take parents out of the equation.
Dylan:Home alone Lost in New York City or Number one back at his house. How fun was that? Um, he had stover's meals three squared, three square stover meals a day, and he was.
Brad:It was solid, he was fine, he got to use his creativity, you know he figured michael jordan on a train set.
Dylan:He figured out what worked and what didn't work it's true.
Brad:Uh, all within a matter of days, and I like this.
Dylan:I like where this is going. This is like some 300 shit where you throw out the like nine-year-old in the wilderness to kill a wolf and if he doesn't come back, he wasn't meant to be king.
Brad:Not that far I don't, uh, I mean some people say we have a population problem, but you know, other people say we need more kids. So I could see both sides of that debate, I suppose. But I mean definitely less organization. Yeah, there's a certain level there's a certain level of there. It is what that's. I'm the problem. You are. Yeah, what would you do? I'm trying to organize that you are the problem.
Dylan:If you give everyone everything, then how are they going to come up to their own conclusions?
Brad:all right, I quit you're not quitting?
Dylan:yep, well, you should absolutely quit sports with kids involved, because you're fucking terrible. I quit, okay, good, I quit.
Brad:all right, everyone guess what. Guess what Brad quits, guess what. Go figure it out. Go figure it out. Go kick a ball around, go throw a ball around, go find a fucking baseball field.
Dylan:I have a friend and it was actually this is funny, this is coming up. He was laughing about how I forget how we got on this subject. It was someone was upset because they felt like they weren't getting enough attention or something me no. And then he brought up the fact. He's like I remember my parents dropping me. Oh, I know how it was and we're not gonna get into that, but I remember my parents dropping me off at baseball practice and going to the circle tap for ribs and beers with their friends duh, and like I'm after baseball by myself, like where the fuck is mom and dad? I'm crying, no cell phones back then. I don't know how to get anywhere. And then they're like why, you knew how to get to me. I'm at the circle tap like what's going on?
Brad:hey, hey, I'm at the tap, I'm at the circle tap. You know where the circle tap is and I think what happened right on that busy street, we had a. We had a buddy with an ex-wife that wasn't happy that he I'm at the tap, I'm at the circle tap.
Dylan:You know where the circle tap is and I think what happened was it's right on that busy street we had a buddy with an ex-wife that wasn't happy that he dropped his kid off at baseball practice and he went to the bar to go have a beer instead of watching his kid practice baseball. And it's like you know what the coach doesn't want parents there. It's actually better for the kid to not have parental supervision around.
Brad:Not saying there's not some other issues, but we're not going to get into that Underlying that. Yeah, I'm totally fine with people dropping their kids off, just make sure your kid actually wants to be there.
Dylan:Yeah, don't do babysitting yeah.
Brad:Yeah, yeah, and then go have fun.
Dylan:Yeah, go have some you time there is a certain level of If you're you, you can see, friend, I have friends and I you can see, friends, that parents are super involved and there's a level of unknowing or trepidation going into unknown situations. And then you can see, friends, that parents were a little less involved and it's that whole well, we just figured it out, we'll just figure it out thing. It's that whole, well, we just figured it out, we'll just figure it out thing. There is a and, not saying it's neglect, not saying it's overly cuddly, it's just you can see that paradigm, you know where there's that kind of shift.
Brad:What would you call the small regions of the Nova Scotia area, the Netherland areas? Is that where all the gold's buried? What gold?
Dylan:Newfoundland. Newfoundland new finland, newfoundland. It's new finland now, but it was new, like we newly found, we new found this land. Yeah, that was fucking real original good job guys well the. I mean, think about it, dude new every, every every oh, this is clark's island. So there's york and britain and now there's new york. Everything was new. They just put new. They named everything after the old towns that they're from and they just put new in front of it.
Brad:Oh, this is the New York, this is the new. What do they collectively call that? I don't know man, it's all the it's on the East Coast?
Dylan:I don't know.
Brad:But it's like the group of them is called something Right?
Dylan:Arcaplejio.
Brad:No.
Dylan:Okay.
Brad:Anyways, there's some areas there where they still take kids out into the woods and just drop them off and then make them find their way back home. So I guess that's a middle ground. How old are they? I think they're old enough to walk. They're called Atlantic provinces. That's not what I was thinking.
Dylan:I think you're wrong. They hold 3.3% of the House seats in the Parliament of Canada. That's wild for a small little place like that. I feel like they should hold like 0.1%, let's say 8.
Brad:8 years old. You just gotta kind of find your way back like a carrier pigeon. Yes, yeah, that's what. That's what it is, it's a bunch of dogs newfoundland. Yeah, yeah, they're good swimmers, nice shaggy coat, lifeguards actually was that?
Dylan:uh, what's her? What's the maggie? Maggie's the name from peter pan, the the big um the dog no, the dog that like is the nanny no never. The original peter pan never saw that when you, when you never want yes, don't, don't do this, don't play this game where you're like oh, I didn't watch it I don't.
Brad:I don't watch peter pan is peter a.
Dylan:He is but the person that played the female. It was a female actress that played Peter Pan in the live, the original live action.
Brad:See, now you know how I was confused, you're an idiot. I'm just saying Peter seems like a ostensibly boy's name, but yeah, there she was. So I don't know, man. I mean, it was an imaginary land, so you know, be whatever you want to be. I think it was progressive.
Dylan:No, oh, nana, it wasn't Maggie, it was Nana, sorry oh that's a St Bernard is St Bernard. Yeah, just nice.
Brad:Even with the maid outfit on I could tell that was a St Bernard Kind of weird Wow.
Dylan:It's almost like you know how to look through the mirror.
Brad:But yeah, I think just dropping them off in the woods is fine. They don't have to go up against like the big bad wolf.
Dylan:It is an island.
Brad:Of course.
Dylan:What natural predators do they have on the island? It's not going to be natural, it's going to be brought in.
Brad:Well, tasmanian tiger allegedly was on an island, really.
Dylan:How the fuck do they get there?
Brad:Probably because they weren't always islands. Be my guess, pangea man Also some rich white asshole, probably brought a bunch of animals, noah.
Dylan:Goddamn Mark.
Brad:It's always you rich guys and your boats and your animals.
Dylan:But I mean, I was ever found out that Noah was actually like a Jeffrey Epstein style character. That was like shit, I gotta get out of here, I gotta get on my boat and get out of here. I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true. He just happened to have a petting zoo exhibit.
Brad:I do think we need to get more towards the idea that nobody in the Bible was white.
Dylan:Really. Yeah, I'm in, there was a diversity. It's funny you say this because I remember being in fifth grade and like we had our religion books at lord's and it was like you know, a history book, math book, religion book. I'm like, okay, this is this is up there.
Brad:I see people post on facebook and they're, but there was a diversity section of like africa thinks jesus looks like this.
Dylan:Yes, chinese people think you know, asia thinks people look like this. Or jesus looks like this. Yes, chinese people think you know Asia thinks people look like this. Or Jesus looks like this. And then it's like it just goes through the different variations of all the Bible characters and what their interpretation across every country is, and I was like, huh, can we just think?
Brad:geographically, that Jesus probably wasn't like Japanese.
Dylan:I think, I don't think you're being very inclusive right now.
Brad:I mean, I don't know all the modes of transportation back then, but Mongolians had a great, great system.
Dylan:They're moving a lot of people. Sorry, Genghis.
Brad:Khan, I think you meant making a bunch of people Making and moving and killing, and killing. What was it? Gangas con, he altered the carbon footprint. Yeah, yeah, dude, it was unreal. Yes, they killed so many people, dude, it was unreal. I mean he made a bunch of people. Yeah, he helped out. Yeah, yeah, like he helped out. It was like concubines.
Dylan:Could we call it carbon neutral?
Brad:uh, I don't think it was neutral no, neutral would net negative.
Dylan:You think we're net negative. No positive, no net positive.
Brad:No, net positive. Yeah, he created more than he killed, definitely released some carbon, I think I think they used lambskin condoms back then allegedly okay, wait, no, no, no, no. I, if I had to bet, I would bet that he wasn't uh a kind man into that.
Dylan:Oh be, my guess. Not about protection. No, he had his bodyguards outside for that reason.
Brad:Yes, good yeah.
Dylan:Okay.
Brad:He had one thing on his mind.
Dylan:Real estate Conquering Rome.
Brad:Yeah.
Dylan:Okay, real estate Mm-hmm. No, it was Alexandria. I forget. I don't remember the timeline. He took it all.
Brad:That's fine.
Dylan:He took it all, but he was before alexandria alexandria went into the mongol empire, I think anyways yeah, let's go where are you going?
Brad:I like where you're heading people posting on facebook and uh like, how come? How come, whenever you guys post on facebook, all your jesuses look like jared leto?
Dylan:jared leto has a cult man we've talked about.
Brad:Yeah, I know this, I know this. Um, I don't know, I don't know about that what I just I don't think you think what I don't think that was. I don't think that was probably jesus's style what jared leto, I want it.
Dylan:You see, now that say that I'm actually a little upset because I want my Jesus wearing a pair of aviators just flowing in Croatia.
Brad:No, no, he's more a man of the people.
Dylan:Yeah, like Italian, like eating, eating like just carbs, like the rest of us, not Croatia.
Brad:Um man of the times.
Dylan:Overweight Swiss Overweight.
Brad:Jesus Overweight, jesus, a man of the times, you gotta keep up with it.
Dylan:I'm looking at 30 seconds of the Mars songs right now.
Brad:Hey, everybody has a following. Even we have seven people listening to this. Oh my god.
Dylan:Here's Jared Leto, here's our Jesus. We're totally getting copyright. This is something Brad would sing in a karaoke bar back in the day. Back in the day now. His wife doesn't let him out.
Brad:I'm kidding.
Dylan:Shannon, I'm kidding Shannon, I'm here. I'm kidding Shannon, I'll cut you, she will. She'll come over here and cut me in my sleep. Until then, I'll fucking kill you, no she wouldn't, do that.
Brad:But uh, some night, when you're spending the the night in your other condo, she will creep through that little hole in the wall our great escape is the great escape tunnel yeah, okay, let's end on this. Okay, if you had to pick a poster to cover your escape route, what poster would it be?
Dylan:I feel like this is life or death.
Brad:I got to think about this because I don't have one right off hand.
Dylan:Okay, you go.
Brad:Albert.
Dylan:Einstein. I have an Albert Einstein here. Do you yeah when? I think it's downstairs.
Brad:I'll go find it.
Dylan:I don't know why Really You're going with.
Brad:Albert, yeah, you know why.
Dylan:Why Because? It's all relative, bro, it's. You're going with Albert. Yeah, you know why why? Because it's all relative, bro, it's all relative. You fucking dumbass the original. I was going to say because it's out of this world. I'm going, dick Nixon, doing the double peace sign on the way in the Marine One, as he's on his way out from Resonation. I'm not a crook.
Brad:Yep, I get it well, brad, I'm gonna think about this and come back with a better one, all right.
Dylan:Well, I appreciate this. I needed this. It's been a while and, uh, yeah, a little stressful since we've done our last podcast. Life's been a little stressful, that's okay yes, but this is these little things that get me going. I do have thanks to Shannon.
Brad:She's been doing some new research through work, counseling and all that kind of business. Yeah, do, have some good stuff coming up, you do. Yeah, oh, like stress inoculations and how to, you know, stay alive while drowning and.
Dylan:I feel like you're being sarcastic right now.
Brad:I mean it's kind of like it's metaphorical.
Dylan:Okay, yeah, yeah.
Brad:Um conflict, conflict resolutions Just keep swimming, swimming. But then Ellen got canceled, so we can't use that comment anymore.
Dylan:Yeah, but Dory didn't get canceled the clownfish did, did he?
Brad:No? No, okay, richard Dreyfuss, I don't remember. Is that who it was? I don't know who the clownfish was, you know, his most famous movie. What Don't say Jaws has to do with aliens, aliens movie. What don't say jaws has to do with aliens, aliens what uh, predator.
Dylan:No, richard dreyfus wasn't in predator. That would have been a really great movie. Yeah, all right, we're gonna end it there, you dumb ass. I love you, buddy, we'll talk to you soon. Bye, you're still here it's over go home, it's over.
Brad:Go home Go.