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Hot Takes - Pinot Noir, Olympic Controversies, and Celebrity Whims

• Brad Child & Dylan Steil • Season 1 • Episode 32

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Is the allure of a 2018 Pinot Noir from Gap's Crown Vineyard enough to spark a discussion on the complexities behind sports and academics? Our episode begins with a flavorful examination of wine, setting the stage for a spirited debate on scholarships, particularly the unique opportunities available for female athletes in Division II and III schools. Get ready for a shift in gears as we tackle the NCAA's latest actions against Jim Harbaugh, casting a spotlight on collegiate athletics' ethics and integrity. All of this while providing a quick peek into international politics and the swirling controversies within the United Nations.

What stirs more conversation: a boxing ring or the Olympic arena? Join us as we step into the heated debate over gender identity in sports, prompted by the case of professional boxer Iman Khalif. Her aggressive style raises questions about testosterone levels and fairness, reminiscent of past controversies involving transgender athletes. We delve into the complexities of doping scandals, laying bare the trust issues plaguing international sports, and contemplate the future of Russian athletes on the Olympic stage, questioning the true value of gold medals in this competitive landscape.

On a lighter note, we take a walk down memory lane with the baseball steroid era and the amusing parallels found in celebrity culture. From the high-profile relationship dynamics of Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck to the whimsical speculation on celebrity genetics, the conversation never loses its playful edge. We wrap up with a nostalgic journey through the James Bond series, from Pierce Brosnan's gadgets to Daniel Craig's raw portrayal, and share a charming anecdote from a Munich brewery. All this and more, with insights on personal growth and the humorous nuances of relationships, awaits in this episode's lively discussion.

Brad:

on a desolate frozen tundra surrounded by mindless brain-numbing cold takes, two bros trek through the nothingness to bring hope to a new generation. You are about to experience brad and dylan's hot takes here we go again, again.

Dylan:

Okay, so my hot take is um, we're starting off a little coast of brown Gap's Crown Vineyard, sonoma Coast. Pinot Noir that's what I'm sipping on right now and I'm gonna give you some details that you never know. You needed Fermentation 86% stainless steel. 14% concrete. 10% whole cluster oak content 43% new French oak for 16 months. 15 concrete for three months. Alcohol content 14.4 ph balance 3.6. Notes nose deeply fruity, with blueberry and blackberry pie over subtle backdrop of honeycombs and french oak. Personally, right now, now that it's a 2018, what is it? 2024? Right now, 2023, 24. Six years later, I can't teach the. I can't taste the french oak because I hate vanilla and that um is not very vanilla. I can get the blueberry, blackberry pie mouth instantly irresistible mouth, mouth watering tension. I don't know what that means.

Brad:

I don't see any tension.

Dylan:

But that's what I'm sipping on right now.

Brad:

Fantastic, I almost stabbed myself in the eye with my pen.

Dylan:

Okay, I wish you would have done it. Quit being a pussy, god.

Brad:

I need that eye Hot takes. Yeah, I need hot takes. I need both my eyes hot takes. What do you think is easier to get a sports scholarship or an academic scholarship?

Dylan:

sports scholarship fucking, really, really if you are a female that wants to go to a school, you find a division two or division three school that absolutely loves their football program and has no other programs and you can get a scholarship there for whatever you need to get play golf, play tennis, play pickleball I don't fucking care, you're going to get a scholarship there for whatever you need to get Play golf, play tennis, play pickleball I don't fucking care, you're going to get a scholarship. Because they have to go dollar for dollar.

Brad:

And how many of those spots are there versus?

Dylan:

How many girls go for that?

Brad:

I don't know, I don't know how many fucking spots are there on a college golf team.

Dylan:

The reason I say that is because I had an actual sports science, my sports science teacher in college. I had to take a sports science class.

Brad:

Fucking kill me Female, by the way, she was like, yeah, this is how you get in 1% of athletic scholarships are full ride.

Dylan:

How about that? That that's cool. We're just getting scholarships out for uh 2.5s now to what, what for what, I don't know.

Brad:

2.5s, yeah, what's that? Gpa? Oh no, okay, really, I just right, I don't know they.

Dylan:

I think it's interesting. Did you see the NCAA sanctioned Harbaugh yesterday? Who's Harbaugh? Michigan's little coach, football coach, you know Jim Harbaugh.

Brad:

Did he do the shuffle shuffle? No, super Bowl shuffle yes.

Dylan:

Oh, sort of. I thought that was. Mcmahon yeah, but Harbaugh is now the Chargers head coach. Chargers, who the Los?

Brad:

Angeles Chargers.

Dylan:

Who's that? The NFL team? What? There's a Los Angeles team. There's two Los Angeles teams.

Brad:

There's the LA.

Dylan:

Rams and the LA Chargers. Okay, they're not the San Diego Chargers. They have two football teams now.

Brad:

Wow.

Dylan:

I'm really up to date. I know Jim Harbaugh was the San Michigan no, he was the San Francisco 49ers head coach. He was and then he took over for Michigan and he was at Michigan and then obviously did really well. And then he took over for Michigan and he was at Michigan and then obviously did really well and then he was breaking NCAA rules by doing smoking weed?

Brad:

No, just kind of against his team. No, he was.

Dylan:

He was talking to kids and doing the whole recruiting thing.

Brad:

That you're not supposed to do. Oh, so like not like everyone, like bad like everyone.

Dylan:

Okay okay, so this was last year. He gets he uh gets the contract with the la rams. Okay, and he's in the nfl now. Okay, yes, yep, we're on the same page. Um still can't talk to kids. They sanctioned him for like four or five years. His lawyer wrote a response which was the greatest thing in the world. If I were in coach harbaugh shoes and had an 80 million dollar contract as a head coach of the chargers, I wouldn't pay attention to the findings of a kangaroo court which claims to represent the principles of the nation's most flagrant repeated violator of the federal antitrust laws, that's, directly at the NCAA. What's a kangaroo court? It means it has no weight.

Brad:

It just bounces around, yeah, I get it.

Dylan:

It's funny, I know, is that? Yeah, no weight, it just bounces around yeah I get it.

Brad:

It's funny, I know, yeah, is that yeah, no, no that's not what it means.

Dylan:

No kangaroo court means it's fucking mickey mouse. What's mickey mouse mean? Mickey mouse means there's no validity, it's the ncaa they oh, kids can't get paid, they can't do this, but we're gonna make billions dollars on the back side. The ncaa is fucking scam.

Brad:

Um, pardon my language, hot takes, yeah, I guess if we're going we're just taking down, okay, not judgment. Be curious, I'm trying to be curious. I was curious about the uh, the united nations um coalition of the Willing, some findings that there may have been some members involved in terrorist activities. Like you, just give some certain nations the same fucking validity as all of the other nations you know and just expect nothing bad to happen.

Dylan:

It's cool, it's fun, it's fun we're a lot of stone women, but we're a good country, it's fine. It's fine. There's no genocide here.

Brad:

Do you want to be on this committee where we like human rights violations and you can like make some rules? Yeah, yeah, good you got a good baseline, yeah, so I'll see what the problem is.

Dylan:

I mean, you guys only stone women like once a week.

Brad:

It's not that bad okay, here's, here's what we're gonna do. Right, I own a college, I do now on one, and we're going to come up with some. Uh, we're gonna come up with a committee. Okay, this committee. I hear all that. I don't like it. Quit doing it. Yeah, do it no. No, don't do it. Do it no, stop it, do it.

Dylan:

You are a smelly pirate hooker.

Brad:

That's too far, sorry. We're going to come up with a committee on fair grading tactics, okay, but we're going to invite some people that are really good at cheating Mm-hmm, they just like cheating.

Dylan:

Is this the movie 21?

Brad:

No, oh, okay, no, that was good though. Yeah, they count cards. Yeah, the UN. What if the UN and the NCAA and the Olympic Committee all got together? I feel like they're all from the same fucking breed.

Dylan:

Throw FIFA in there and Jesus Christ.

Brad:

Yeah, we could have a competition for most corrupt organization. Fifa's got to be fucking way up there.

Dylan:

I think FIFA takes the cake. Ioc probably takes the cake. Yeah but the UN is dealing with national budgets. The un has no validity. There's nothing that happens at the un that is actually beneficial yeah, probably not anymore.

Brad:

It's, it's all just conjecture.

Dylan:

It's all like oh, I sent my rep there, we're gonna talk, we're gonna do this thing, but nothing happened. No, at least the ioc and fifa can actually act on their corruption, like I give them props, they do like. At least they can do shit oh, it's olympic season.

Brad:

Yeah, let's, let's get into it okay hot takes. Okay, hot takes, hot takes. How many times do we have to say this? Hot takes. People are so fucking dumb.

Dylan:

Hot takes the story that came out about the boxer, the transgender boxer, the female boxer that didn't pass male tests has an xy chromosome. Didn't pass the male female tests.

Brad:

how so she has a singular xy chromosome or like many xy chromosomes look it up, okay, so, okay. So transgender would imply that she has changed genders. That hasn't happened. So she was born a woman and she's competed as a woman and beat up a woman. Did you see it? Oh yeah, it was one punch, it was weak. I think it was staged. How are you a professional boxer and you get hit once like that? Look it up, just look up the first punch. It was just one punch. Did it knock her out? Nope, didn't even knock her down, she with it. And then she was like no, no more, that was too hard. Oh what, what are we doing? I quit. Yeah, she hits too hard. I was like have you seen mma fighters? They get smoked. Uh, it was very strange I don't.

Dylan:

I haven't read up too much on it, I don't know it's okay to say that you don't have an opinion.

Brad:

Remember, I don't have an opinion I don't know enough about this I don't know enough about this however, a lot of people on the internet um were not able to say that, and immediately boxer. Boxer Iman Khalif advances to Olympic championships amid John, amid gender controversy, yeah so there is a sprinter uh, almost 10 years prior kind of a similar situation where she failed a. She had like two unusually high testosterone for a woman.

Dylan:

Also, we're going off of fucking, so this is fucked. The Women's World Boxing Championship. They were disqualified by the Russian-led international boxing Because we totally trust Russia.

Brad:

Oh well, do you know why? Potentially, which is?

Dylan:

led by umar kremlev, who is a acquaintance of vladimir putin.

Brad:

And guess who that girl beat the fuck out of before she was disqualified? His niece, uh, russian boxer. Yeah, yeah, coincidence, I think not um, nobody seemed to mind. The last time she was boxing in the olympics, which was the previous olympics, that wasn't an issue. Did we just not care about that back then? We didn't care about men beating up women back then. In like 2021, still happens. Do we care about it now? I, I don't know, we were busy, okay, so so we were busy with the swimmer. Who was the swimmer which?

Dylan:

one, the one that disqualified all the other girls. They finally banned her. Was that an Olympic thing? It wasn't, because it's been in the four years since the previous one, but it was a deal leading up to this. Okay, so here's. It was a male collegiate swimmer that had that now became a female okay, yeah, that's, and then was swimming, totally different. Destroying everyone, yeah. And then they're like this isn't fair that's not fair. She's winning everything.

Brad:

She's yep, this is a great story, yeah yeah, so shades of gray, everybody wants to hop in and just be like erotic novel. Oh was it? I don't know, I didn't read it.

Dylan:

No did you watch the movie? No, huh, you're not missing much lame.

Brad:

Yeah, that's what this became immediately, and 50 shades of gray I don't think so, okay. 48 I didn't see that. I didn't see that clip, if that's what it was, but it was immediately. Man dressed as woman beats the shit out of woman boxer is how it was pretty much immediately touted, and the part that annoys me is that not enough people's head Was there this little bell that was like, well, it seems kind of weird. Yeah, it seems kind of strange. They would let that happen. I bet there's some other information about this story.

Dylan:

We say that some other information about this story. We say that and I will innocent until proven guilty is the way I always follow things. Have you seen icarus dude?

Brad:

nobody gave a shit. The documentary yeah, that was the first thing I told shannon. I was like the russian federation has been doping for 40 fucking years.

Dylan:

So my belief system in the IOC is gone, because when you watch that you're like, oh okay, so the KGB was involved in a doping scandal and we're not going to do anything.

Brad:

Nope.

Dylan:

Weird and the FBI is going. Maybe we'll help protect this guy, maybe we won't, I don't know. But we'd like you to come in, but we can't promise you sanctuary or protection, but we want you to tell us everything. It's like uh, why don't you go fuck yourselves that documentary? It gives me no faith in the human race.

Brad:

If you think the Olympics are just like wholehearted good people working their butts off Is.

Dylan:

Russia allowed to wave the flag this year in this Olympics. I don't know actually, Are they still Olympic athletes?

Brad:

I don't know, I'm not sure. Are they even allowed to?

Dylan:

show up. Are theylympic athletes? I don't know, I'm not sure. Are they even allowed to show up? Are they even there? I don't know. I haven't seen any. I know I haven't because they were what the last winter olympics, they were what aoc, no they were.

Brad:

I haven't paid attention because it's just fucking america's just wiping the floor with everybody we.

Dylan:

We're 20 or 30 medals ahead, but we're one gold medal behind China, if not tied.

Brad:

I don't know.

Dylan:

Yeah, it's all about gold medals. Nobody cares about fucking totals, it's gold medals, brad, it's gold. It's gold or nothing. Gold or nothing.

Brad:

Okay.

Dylan:

Fair, ricky Bobby. We're not first or last.

Brad:

That's yeah. But yeah, nobody really Fair Ricky Bobby for not first realized this, yeah, but yeah, nobody, nobody really. I would see people post about this and then you can they miss, construe the story. Okay, which story are we talking about? The, the boxing story? Okay, so then you go back. So I have a man beating, so I would go back to and she might have managed hands I will I would have to look it up.

Brad:

But um, this sprinter who was disqualified for elevated testosterone levels? Okay, not doping, just natural testosterone. Like she, her body produces more testosterone than the average woman does and she was disqualified for it. Fair, that's fair, okay just asking.

Brad:

I'm I'm letting you on the line, so basically, what we're getting to is like no, we want to curious. Yeah, thank you, exactly, ted. Yeah, I was getting to the punchline. Uh, we want to disqualify people for having biological anomalies that make them good at something. The fuck, do you think the olymp? Yeah, yeah, you take. I mean, you take this thing which is like hey, you got pretty good genetics.

Brad:

And then you take all this fucking hard work, and then you put them together, and then, and then, if it's not to die, then you just fucking dope until tada happens.

Dylan:

It's kind of like us getting mad at Dick Van Dyke for being a really great inventor during chitty bang bang and getting the car out of the water. Never saw that movie what you're never seen.

Brad:

Is that a movie?

Dylan:

yeah, no, have you seen bed knobs and broomsticks?

Brad:

no, okay we're gonna move on I saw the dick van dyke show.

Dylan:

Do we want to talk about the merely to mary tyler moore show?

Brad:

no, okay no, so it's. It just seems odd to me that we get to pick and choose which, which little things we don't like that may give someone an advantage, like people that were posting about this that that you know maybe uh unfavorable thoughts about this person. They didn't have a problem when, like, mark mcguire was doped out of his fucking mind just hitting bombs for the cardinals oh that was fun him and sosa were in the race to 70, 72, I don't remember the race was for.

Dylan:

Yeah, needles mcguire had 74, but it was all fake. Remember when he had to go in front of congress yeah, wait, was that him? Mark mcguire went didn't?

Brad:

jose can take. Oh, do it too jose it was.

Dylan:

It was a whole inquisition. He wore purple. It was great. It was like the holy times. Have you ever seen Casanova with?

Brad:

Heath Ledger.

Dylan:

No, what, no Sounds stupid. So Heath Ledger is Casanova, okay, and he's going up and down Venice just defiling women. But they want it Like it's not like a creepy way, way, but the cat. And he, the catholic church, doesn't like that. He's this lady's man and he's defiling this town and it's like, oh, there's this hedonism going on. We can't allow this to happen. So they send in jeremy irons as the inquisition and he's got all the flowing purple robes, he's on behalf of the pope and he finally is like talking to a girl at one point and he's like, well, you know, if you, if you become evidence for us, we can restore your virginity. And she's like, wait, what she's like? You can do that. And he was like we're the Catholic church, we can do whatever we want. Ooh, oh, I just reminded me of that, sorry.

Brad:

That's uh that seems suspicious.

Dylan:

You should watch the movie. It's hilarious.

Brad:

I don't know about that. Let's see yeah.

Dylan:

It's like putting the genie back in the bottle. Jlo, I don't think the Mark Anthony hey, ben Affleck. They're getting divorced JLo, are they? Yeah? Why Is this a hot take? Is it official Hot?

Brad:

takes. Oh, is it official?

Dylan:

Or is it conjecture?

Brad:

Okay, I heard somebody say this, something about Suge Knight. Oh God, not releasing some videos of J-Lo back in the day?

Dylan:

or something like that.

Brad:

I don't know, I'm just saying I've seen yeah it looks like it's a failed exercise, hey, and I'm not coming to Ben Affleck's side, you know, by any means.

Dylan:

Okay. But he did look pretty miserable, yeah, miserable, yeah, he like. The best part about ben to me is he is the epitome of what guys struggle with and I'm like I'm not taking his side, I'm like I'm just like you, but the photos are so epic where you can absolutely tell he's just screaming no, you can absolutely tell they're in the middle of a tiff, but he's still.

Dylan:

He's still opening the door for her, he's still shutting the door for her, like they have all these scenes where he's still being a gentleman, but as he's doing it, it's just his little bit of flair of like rebelliousness where, like he slams the door, he's just like, whatever, it's a and it's it's the it's almost like you can hear the boston accent when she's around on the door slam.

Dylan:

He's a little bit more composed and stoic, but the moment, like they have even when they're next to each other, but there's a break in the scene where she's in a different world because of the door or whatever like he breaks finally and he just looks so frustrated. Yeah, I'm like kudos to that guy, though, for just being like well, this is still my significant other. I'm gonna hold it together. I'm still gonna be frustrated as shit, whereas some people would just freak the fuck out. Yeah, so kudos to ben for keeping it together. I'm sure she's not. This is the problem with celebrities they're easy to live with they're both candles.

Dylan:

They have to be the bread's light in the room. How do you, how do you manage that? Like you're a superstar, you're a superstar. How do you? Oh, you're getting the attention. Oh, you're getting the attention. How do you handle that?

Brad:

who's made it work?

Dylan:

I'm not, I'm ryan reynolds ryan reynolds and blake lively now for now, hot takes, hot takes, blake always available. Sorry, ryan, I'm actually. I'm available for ryan, not you.

Brad:

I just uh, since hot take, since we were talking about, um, yeah, ryan ross and blake lively are good they.

Dylan:

They definitely have a playfulness to them. That's fun, uh, kate beckinsale I just saw a little but she was with machine gun.

Brad:

No, no no, no, what, yeah, she was kate beckinsale, yeah, yeah there you go before megan fox yep anyways, it wasn't about that, sorry. She thinks she looks exactly like ryan reynolds, who does. Kate beckinsale thinks that. Why I, I don't, I don't I don't know why that's a hot takes. That's from her. Um, she's like I, I don't. I can't be in the same room Cause it's like looking at myself. No, that's what everybody else said. No, you know, it's funny. What when two really attractive people like that have an ugly baby?

Dylan:

It's called karma. It's not how genetics work.

Brad:

We can't do this. No, no, it's like two great athletes just having the laziest piece of shit ever. It doesn't work that way. It does work, though. Hitler already tried it. I think he did try it Not him personally, but he had a program, I believe, didn't he? Oh yeah, he liked twins.

Dylan:

Yeah, he was obsessed with twins.

Brad:

He's obsessed with some not good stuff. Yeah, disney Watercolors On ice, or regular, regular Okay. Yeah, twins. You know some other things too.

Dylan:

So celebrities that have made it work? Nobody yeah or there's a got it if you say fucking carrot top, I swear to god who it's just massive.

Brad:

He can't be married um um goldie haunt kurt Kurt Russell. Yeah, yeah, forever. You know why?

Dylan:

because Kurt Russell's awesome. They pulled a Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and they ran away to Colorado. What to live? Yeah, they live in Aspen. Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's not Telluride, so that's. It's not necessarily Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, but it's similar. That's, it's not necessarily butch cassidy and sundance kid, but it's similar I mean it's, yeah, it's not hollywood. They don't know they. They are hardcore colorado people.

Brad:

Yeah no, that I think, just being away from from that. I don't know how people fucking deal with that.

Dylan:

Speaking of being away from hollywood, daniel craig, have you seen his glow up in the past few months?

Dylan:

now these post bond phase. No, he is not clean capped. He is the face of a brand called louis vuitton, which is a massive up and coming brand, and he is how he has rebranded himself when others have not been able to. I don't know, but he's done a phenomenal job, because everyone is freaking out right now about his glow up. This, that's him. That's. That's not Dale Craig, that's Daniel Day-Lewis. Oh right, yeah, different. Oh, that's Mohicans. Yeah, not Dale Craig, that's Daniel Day-Lewis. Oh right, yeah, different, that's Mohicans. Yeah, look up L-O-E-W-E-L-E-W-I-N-D-C-R-A-G.

Brad:

No, I'm going to look up some recent images of him.

Dylan:

Yeah, well, he's been in Paris, fucking Whoa. Yeah, he's been in Paris sport and his Omega, by the way, he's still. Yeah, that also is brand of the year right now. This guy, yeah, so that, no, that's Omega, that's his, that's his new Seamaster, right there, what that watch on his left wrist.

Brad:

It's an unreleased Omega Seamaster. Wait, that's the brand.

Dylan:

No, no, that's not Louis.

Brad:

Vuitton? Oh, that's Omega. So what's the other brand famous for?

Dylan:

Being, clothing and bags Clothing Okay, l-o-e-w-e, daniel Craig.

Brad:

No, I've seen enough. Okay, I don't like it, but he's reinvented himself, has he?

Dylan:

Uh-huh. I mean not that great, because I haven't seen it. You live in Oregon, illinois. Brad, I don't expect that much from you, you're going to have to block that out. Okay.

Brad:

L-O-E-W-E? I don't know.

Dylan:

I don't know how it's spelled.

Brad:

I don't like it. I'll stick with Bond.

Dylan:

How do you feel about the new Bond? We've talked about this a little bit. What new Bond talked about this a little bit. What new bond is there? A new bond? Have you seen bullet train? No, you haven't seen bullet train with brad pitt. No, it's really good by the way, okay, um, one of the actors in there is the new bond. Oh, did I know this?

Dylan:

yeah, lemon, lemon, lemon uh, well, I could see it going that way I remember when daniel Daniel Craig got picked and everyone was like not happy about it. I was. It was like blonde bond. It was like what? I was kind of pumped. Yeah, but you have vision. Not a lot of people have vision, and so when you deviate from what you know, people don't get excited. But when you I was.

Brad:

I was really hoping for a black bond.

Dylan:

Why don't get?

Brad:

excited, but when you I was, I was really hoping for a black bond. Why exactly any? Why? Why were you hoping for?

Dylan:

a black bond because it sounds good. Black bond, yeah, okay, it sounds good, but why?

Brad:

I don't know, because the syllables go nicely together. Okay, fucking what Nothing there's two like white bond sounds dumb, it sounds terrible.

Dylan:

Actually it doesn't sound dumb, it sounds terrible.

Brad:

Yeah, I don't like it. Okay, black bond sounds like something you could just spend the night in.

Dylan:

This is the interesting part. I absolutely understand Spend the night in.

Brad:

This is the interesting part. I absolutely understand.

Dylan:

Also internationally.

Brad:

Stop it, nanny. Internationally speaking, it would probably be worthwhile to have Bond more like a Jesus figure White, not the white Jesus. Okay, the regular Jesus, sorry, the Jesus of the people. The Catholic Church would have you believe he's a white Italian. No, no, like a. I can't think of it. I got it in my head, I just can't think of who.

Dylan:

I would Like a new Baroque style Jesus, still Italian, no. No, middle Eastern Jesus, right, there's so many bad jokes I want to make, he's not from Italy. Don't let the Italian Pope know that he's not he's from Argentina.

Brad:

It's not fair. He's a man of the people.

Dylan:

I don't let the italian pope know that he's not. He's from argentina. It's not fair. He's a man of the people. I don't know, but he also knew about sexual harassment how about killian murphy as the new bond? They fucked up.

Brad:

It should have been chilean uh, that would be be not as exciting.

Dylan:

I disagree.

Brad:

I feel like a level of Thomas Shelby brought to Bond would be good, tom Hardy.

Dylan:

Tom Hardy, tom Hart. I would have been okay with Tom Hardy because Tom maybe like 10 years ago Tom Hardy, he's gotten a little too old for the role.

Brad:

Yeah.

Dylan:

I. This is the issue, though. Speaking of is happened. Yeah, sean Connery. I mean you had some amazing. You had Sean Connery. You had um Pierce Bronson. You had some amazing. You had Sean Connery, you had Pierce Bronson. You had Roger Moore. Oh yeah, roger Moore. You had that other guy. Ian Lazenby was only one, or George Lazenby only did one. He was on your Majesty's Secret Service, and then who was the guy that was in the 80s that did two? I don't remember, nobody cares, he wasn't remember.

Brad:

Nobody cares, he wasn't a very good one.

Dylan:

No it was terrible. Like for your eyes only, Was he for your eyes only? Like the train scene with the twins that were throwing daggers. I know way too much about James Bond, by the way they're all bad.

Dylan:

I don't like it. Daniel Craig brought a level of sophistication because what ended up happening is bond always had gadgets, but bond was bond and bond got it done because of the raw brute force. I love, love, love, love Pierce Bronson. But towards the end of Pierce's movie career it got way too gadgety. I mean, like the visible car the world is not enough, um was getting there. And then what was the ice age? One like that was like peak, like yeah, it almost feels like a uh, jerry bruckheimer or like you know what I mean, like it got way too and the jokes were terrible. It got way too punchy and jokes were terrible. It got way too punchy. And then because Pierce, like the whole history of Bond is when he, when Pierce, became the new Bond, it had been years Like it was, it was a dying franchise.

Dylan:

Yeah, it was long time when Pierce took it back over, and the first one was was it Goldeneye or Tomorrow Never Dies? I want to say it was Goldene over. And the first one was was it golden or tomorrow never dies? I want to say it was golden. I was the first one.

Brad:

I was yeah.

Dylan:

And all of a sudden it was sexy British guy Raw. He was very brutish in that like brute force bond still had gadgets bringing charisma, all these things, and it was like it was there was a sex, all these things, and it was like it was there was a sex appeal, there was a, there was a thing. And then, as it went on, they're like, oh, let's lean into the cinematography and the effects and the ai, and it was like, oh god, we ruined it. And then daniel craig comes along. Kind of the same thing, just raw. They didn't bring the gadgets into daniel craig at all, like there was like the biggest gadget they had was palm print pistol. Yeah, your pistol won't fire without a palm print. Like that was the extent and the rest of it was just this guy being brought back the cars. It brought back the cars, the watches, like, but this guy is just a brute force and he gets pissed off and he just starts breaking things yeah, not the, uh, I mean the, the throwback.

Brad:

So in, uh like skyfall, the throwback to the car, and so where the, the main themes of it, where it's like, yes, he dresses nice, okay, uh, the walter, he's got the great car yeah, okay, and then because sean connery kind of went down that road too, where they're like hey, let's start throwing in some gadgets, yeah but it it was a storyline.

Dylan:

He obviously has demons, but at the end of the day, he's good and he will do whatever it takes to get the mission done, because he wants to be good even though he's flawed. Yeah, it's a good. It's a good, glow up. He's reinvented himself. He's not james bond. You have to remove the james bond from that I don't like it, okay, uh you're a pussy. He, you're a pussy.

Brad:

He looks like. He looks like Simon Schuster. He kind of looks like Keith Urban went to shit and started knitting.

Dylan:

How dare you speak about a former alcoholic like that which one, keith Urban, former Formed Quitter Quitter.

Brad:

Dare you speak about former alcoholic?

Dylan:

like that which one, keith arabin former, formed quitter, sorry nicole, oh, I forgot to tell you about the story about munich. So we're at the polliner brewery and we're having dinner and we're outside beautiful beer garden, like super fun. I had a couple beers like vice beers, and um, the guy, the waiter, comes up and he's like, uh, can I get anything else? I'm like oh I, I just saw your seasonal beer list. I would like one of these and it was a dunkle, I don't.

Dylan:

I don't remember the style of beer exactly, but it was like seven and a half percent Brad beer, okay, and he was like ah, sir, hi BB. Like he was kind of like looking at me like I was a weak American and he was just like I just I just want to let you know like it's high.

Brad:

And I looked at him and I said my pregame is your alcohol poisoning, so why don't you just give me this fucking stein, you know? So don't go.

Dylan:

No, I didn't say that you didn't fucking say that. I said, it's my mama frana yeah I don't know, what that means yeah, but my baby has a fryer as a fryer, yeah that's what it is no, but I was actually kind of insulted.

Brad:

I was like hey, motherfucker yeah, I feel like uh, because the only place you know that I've been not in america is colorado, ireland, and I feel like they're the opposite, they're just like here you go yeah there you go take all these.

Dylan:

I was like dude, I casually drink vodka for a living, like, just just get this beer is not going to do anything that's good, it's gonna be fine.

Brad:

Yeah, it's gonna be fine I get it.

Dylan:

You get weird americans in here that have never had it before and they get all jacked up and a little emotional from one there's people out there, apparently, is it a boot. No, it was.

Brad:

It was like this okay, a little ceramic like a 24 16 16, like a ceramic Stein, 16s, I said 72. I mean, yeah, do you know what I have for lunch?

Dylan:

Bologna and Swiss Six beer Modellas. What Don't tell Shannon yeah?

Brad:

I don't know, I don't know what people they see over there do you ever be like?

Dylan:

I always feel like like, oh, this is normal, I just grew up, I'm drinking a couple beers. And then people around you're like oh, I don't ever drink that much. You're like what is it me? Is it you who's at fault right now?

Brad:

I don't, I don't know yeah, should I slow down or should you speed up?

Dylan:

that's what I'm sure. That's the dichotomy that we have to understand. What is the hot take on the hot take dichotomy?

Brad:

I don't know. Here's a question, though okay should you do dangerous things on vacation?

Dylan:

yes yeah are we talking about? Like so dangerous that you're going to orphan your kids there and then not likely 100, but possibly yes, okay, all right, because I got a good.

Brad:

I got a good plan for next year.

Dylan:

Then going to do? Is you're going to make little Bruce Wayne's?

Brad:

Wait, oh yeah, okay. Yeah, I like that you either have fun and a really good story or you make Batman, yeah, yeah. There's only two scenarios of that.

Dylan:

I mean one of them is definitely going to be an Alfred and a little weak ass bitch.

Brad:

I mean yeah.

Dylan:

Not Michael. Maybe more like michael cain, more like anna and elsa yeah, because I'm not getting murdered jeremy irons was a good alfred but like michael cain was like the best alfred what what jeremy irons was for ben affleck doesn't count. Didn't see that one I know michael cain when he's doing the whole when he's when he's doing the whole like africa.

Brad:

Ruby story that's like one of the best, one of the best monologues ever.

Dylan:

Yeah, some people just want to watch the world burn, master, yeah, yeah, yeah, why not?

Brad:

well, it's not a good idea.

Dylan:

No, no I like it here Burn mastermind, yeah, yeah.

Brad:

Why not? Well, it's not a good idea. Why not? No, I like it here, do you?

Dylan:

Yeah, do you.

Brad:

Come on, lou, we really like this place. Yeah, you don't know where I've been, lou, I know, okay, I know. So, yeah, I got a good one coming up for next year, do you actually?

Dylan:

like this place? Hmm, do you actually like this place?

Brad:

Yeah, I do. Why do you complain?

Dylan:

so much.

Brad:

Um, what, what Do I? Yeah, hot take, hot takes. I complain a lot.

Dylan:

You have a lot to get off your chest always.

Brad:

Yeah, always yeah, but I'm also, you're like a great person, you rack you just got a lot to get off your chest, hey okay, stab that vampire with a wood stake. Okay, kate, uh, yeah, but I'm also very grateful are you?

Dylan:

you don't sound very grateful most days, really no I guess I just think it in my head you're just like well, I fucking could have had ketamine and surgery but I guess I can hate everybody out of here. I'm you know happy to be here. I only ask because I've noticed that I've turned into a way grumpier person in the past four months than I ever thought I'd ever be, I think it's hard it, it, it's.

Dylan:

It's hard because I I realize it and I see it and I don't like it, but I don't want to change it. I'm a positive person no, you're not.

Brad:

I'm positive.

Dylan:

I'm positive that I'm a positive person okay, and I love the transparency right now, whatever you think about that.

Brad:

Go fuck off, because this positive person doesn't give a shit, what you think that sounds like a facebook post. People are like I'm I'm positive, I'm positive about me, and then the next post is just like fuck everybody, you know, is that positive?

Dylan:

I said counterproductive. Is it kind of like the when he posts the picture of him and the children and the wife post a picture of her working out and she's posting inspirational quotes, Like we know where this relationship's going?

Brad:

Somebody's on the hunt, yeah, and.

Dylan:

I met one of those once. That was an interesting only once.

Brad:

Oh god, I feel like they're you know, and they were fucking good for them. See, positive, that's me good for you, you were the worst. Positive, you get in shape. Yeah, you go cheat on your husband. It goes both ways. It's you know, it's the pendulum what do we?

Dylan:

it's just swinging back. It's not.

Brad:

It's not it's just swinging back, it's not gender.

Dylan:

What do? What do we call those people, though, that are just that whimsical and just cheaters, flip it. It'd be beyond the term cheater, like what would be a better descriptor, because cheater um cheater has great. And this makes me sound like I'm a fucking lawyer right now. Well, cheating is obviously one thing. It's like yes, very much Boom, boom, boom, Did these things, but there are these whimsical people.

Brad:

Oh, are you talking about the people that put the watches in the baskets?

Dylan:

It. It's not even that.

Dylan:

It's just the edgers that are like, oh, I'm not cheating, I'm just emotionally cheating, but it's not cheating. Like just those people that are always like, oh, I push boundaries, but it's okay because I'm still a faithful spouse. Like, well, what kind of boundaries. How would you feel about it if your significant other was always constantly just edging those boundaries and they knew they were edging those boundaries, but because you didn't cross those boundaries, it's not a problem? I'd fucking never let her ride my jeep again. Yeah, I don't know. There's just people you know that are always riding boundaries, like edging those boundaries, but they're like, oh, I didn't cross them, so it doesn't matter. And it's like, well, you knew what you're doing, you're getting up to it because it was giving you a thrill so, yeah, that's.

Brad:

That's what I was just was gonna say was like, are they? Is it more of a problem of like attention seeking? Yeah?

Dylan:

there are those people in this world. They're like, they're the what we would call a t like old school terminology. Be like, oh, you're a tease. And it's like, oh, I'm not a tease, I'm married or I'm gonna get a fiance, but you want, you want something, but you want something, but you're not gonna cross that boundary, but you're gonna.

Dylan:

You're gonna get every dopamine hit up until that point because it makes you feel better, and then you're gonna be like rip cord. I feel like uh, even though if the person you were with was doing that, you wouldn't feel. Okay, this goes for both sexes.

Brad:

By the way I feel like madman era teasing was like I'm going to get something. I'm going to get a better job, I'm going to get this guy to take me out, I'm going to get a new car, I'm going to get something out of it. What's that?

Dylan:

Nothing Continue.

Brad:

Nowadays it's more like I'm going to get attention. It's like that's the ultimate commodity I miss, the ultimate commodity I'm going to miss the old days. Yeah, the old days of misogyny Dude.

Dylan:

It was so easy just to walk into Rookie's and be like dollar beers, dollar beers. Okay, I will buy 50 beers for the bar.

Brad:

Hi everyone, oh oh, is that that? It?

Dylan:

I never fucking, I just waved at everyone and then I went back to playing the jukebox good for you.

Brad:

How'd that work?

Dylan:

really well, I was left alone. I loved it. Oh weird. I know you're still alone. I know hot takes still here. Hot takes, it's not a hot takes it's a fact. She says so you're a therapist yeah, yeah, no, I don't know she'll ask me questions like that. How do you feel, I don't know, like alone, like always, uh I'll end on this because hot takes.

Brad:

I just had uh therapy a couple days ago. It was really boring, yeah. So next time I go we should have some good shit how do you know the next episode?

Dylan:

how do you know the next episode is gonna be good? Because this one was really boring.

Brad:

Pendulum.

Dylan:

Every time, Every time you're like I have two or three in a row, we're just like we didn't really have a lot to talk about. We couldn't even make it through the hour and then the next one. It's just like, oh my God, we are going to need eight hours to deal with this.

Brad:

Yeah, so stay tuned, because that'll be up next.

Dylan:

There goes my hero yeah.

Brad:

Way to bring that all back around. Be curious, not judgmental, just all the time, you know. Do that Be positive like me. Be alone like Dylan.

Dylan:

Be yourself. Yeah, definitely don't listen to this podcast.

Brad:

Yeah, unless you're a prick, Then don't be yourself. Be somebody else, don't be a prick. Don't be a prick, then don't be yourself, be somebody else, don't be a prick.

Dylan:

Don't be a prick, you're still here it's over, go home go.

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