Break Free from Anxiety in Weeks: Daniel Packard's Revolutionary FLITE System Exposed!

Imagine transforming your life by overcoming anxiety, procrastination, and self-doubt with a groundbreaking approach engineered by Daniel Packard.

This 2% Solution podcast episode promises to unravel quick and permanent solutions to mental health challenges unprecedentedly.

We’ll explore Daniel’s innovative system, developed over eight years and a million dollars of research, and how it can help you unlock your full potential.

Join us as we critically examine the stagnant landscape of traditional mental health approaches and underscore the fresh, practical solutions Daniel brings from his engineering background.

We simplify complex psychological concepts into actionable steps by addressing fear as the root cause of various behaviors, such as people-pleasing and perfectionism.

With real-life success stories and scientific principles to support the efficacy of these methods, this episode is packed with insights that advocate for a new paradigm in mental wellness.

You'll hear inspiring narratives, including Daniel’s journey from PTSD and anxiety to confidence and fearlessness, as well as stories of others who’ve turned their lives around using his system.

We also tackle the challenge of skepticism, highlighting that genuine transformation is possible within weeks.

Focusing on compassion, accountability, and creating a sense of safety, this course will help you discover how small changes can lead to significant impacts and how you can break the cycle of anxiety for a more confident, fulfilling life.

Connect with Daniel at

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Transcript

Dai Manuel: 0:08

Welcome back, folks, to another riveting episode of the 2% Solution podcast. I'm your host, don Manuel, and today we have an extraordinary guest who is here to challenge the status quo and revolutionize the way we understand anxiety and personal growth. Full disclosure I've been someone that's dealt with social anxiety, feelings of depression and other anxieties most of my life. You know it sort of stemmed from the time I was morbidly obese as a teen, dealing with a lot of isolation and withdrawal and ultimately just avoiding public places. And even as I started to become healthier, that anxiety never really subsided. It was always there and you know I've learned to manage it really well. I can thrive in spite of it, but it still is a big limiting factor for me and I don't know if you can relate. Do you ever have feelings of anxiety or moments of depression or you know crumbling moments where you feel afraid? Well, you're going to want to listen to this episode.

Dai Manuel: 1:11

Meet Daniel Packard. He's a brilliant engineer turned innovator who has cracked the code on overcoming anxiety, procrastination, people pleasing perfectionism and low self-confidence. People-pleasing perfectionism and low self-confidence Sounds crazy. Right, it was. I thought it, I believed it, and then I met him, and so much so I'm actually part of his program. Now I'm doing his program and I'm excited to share about that in future episodes. We'll talk a little bit about it during today's episode, but I'll have some future episodes where I really dive deep into what I'm experiencing Because, you know, after over 30 years of learning to live with it, I'm kind of excited about doing something about it. Daniel spent eight years and over a million dollars in research to develop a groundbreaking system that promises quick and permanent results. Can you imagine being free from the change of anxiety but truly unlocking your full potential? I don't know what my full potential would be if I didn't have anxiety. If you've ever wrestled with self-doubt or fear, this episode is a must. Listen, stay tuned as we dive deep into Daniel's transformative journey and discover how you, too, can achieve lasting freedom from your fears. Trust me, you will not want to miss this episode. Welcome back folks. I'm still Diamond.

Dai Manuel: 2:34

Well, just like you heard in the intro, and this is the 2% Solution Podcast. You know, every week I get to bring some amazing guests here. Well, a number of months ago I was on a show by the gentleman named Roy and Roy's actually coming up on a future episode and he introduced me saw this dude named Daniel. He's like you got to talk to this guy Because we shared openly that I struggle with a little bit of anxiety. I felt depressed at times in my life, but it's the anxiety piece that's really, you know, creates some challenges for me, and he's like you got to talk to my brother. Sure enough, I had a conversation with Daniel and I've already started to work with Daniel and that's why he's on the show today is to really talk. That's based on a few topics. You know like we're diving into something transformational bottom line.

Dai Manuel: 3:18

Daniel is pro at tackling fear, doubt and anxiety, but also while also unlocking your full potential so people can feel free of what holds them back. Follow if you've ever wrestled with anxiety, procrastination, perfectionism how are people pleasing? Or low confidence, self-doubt. I mean. These are all terms that affect all of us from time to time, some of us a bit more than others. I mean, hey, hands up here for me Definitely been a problem for me. You're in the right place, so stick with us to discover Daniel's groundbreaking system that lets you be free of all that quickly and permanently.

Daniel Packard: 3:55

Daniel welcome to the show man. Oh my God, Thank you. I wish everybody got an intro like that every day when they started. You are a good hype man. I don't think you'll be pivoting to rap anytime soon, but there was Flavor Flav who was the guy in Public Enemy who would just go, yeah, boy, and had the clock. Yeah, very good, Very good. So, maybe not a clock, Maybe, maybe, I don't know. What would you if you were a hype man in a rap band, which I know has been on your mind lately? What would you have hanging on your necklace?

Dai Manuel: 4:27

What would you have West side, west side, no, I you know what would be on my necklace? I I, uh gosh, if you think about it, it'd probably be like a moose head, you know, like a little like plastic moose head. It would look like almost ornamental and I think that's what I was going to say.

Daniel Packard: 4:46

Way to be cool and Canadian simultaneously. I that is great. I love that answer. I expect nothing less, all right. Well, good, and our rap name will be Die Manuel and the Danimal Danimal.

Dai Manuel: 5:03

Oh, that's a pretty good one. Plus, you got the pack like pack animal and packard right, so I like it. This works.

Daniel Packard: 5:11

A moose could be a pack animal if you could tame it Wow. This is not what we're talking about. This will not transform people's lives, but it's good that we covered this ahead of time so we're not caught off surprise.

Dai Manuel: 5:27

All surprise, all right. Good, daniel, listen I, I think, part of the easiest place and best place to begin. Would you mind sharing your backstory, you know, but get more importantly, like what led you to focus on helping people like myself, like the people are listening to this show or watching us have this conversation, but helping regular people overcome anxiety? But but also, specifically, I know there's a lot of limiting thought patterns or, as it's also known, limiting beliefs that sometimes influence this situation. So I'd love to know, like what, how, how, how are you doing this now and why?

Daniel Packard: 5:58

well, I definitely want to tell you the how, because sometimes people don't believe the what. So when I explain the how, it makes more sense that this isn't too good to be true. But I also want to be clear in what it is, because it's not what the typical approach, it's not what's available on the market and it's, I think, it's what people want. So I just like to be really clear. This is what we do, in the value that it has for people, because you use words like transformational and living, being free of what holds you back, and those are words that get used a lot in this industry, and we are doing that. But I want to be really specific, which is that, if you're struggling with what I call the funky five, which is anxiety, procrastination, people pleasing, perfectionism and low confidence, we engineered a system, as you said, where, instead of managing it, which is what your audience has a lot of tips and tools and insights to be aware of it make it less definitely valuable, but they're not free of it, and we built this system so that you could be free of those things, to be the person you want to be. And it's simple. It's very clear, it's simple and it's fast and it's reliable. So that's what we're doing. So, yes, it's transformational, yes, it's living your best life. You've heard other people say that, but we're talking about something making simple and effective and measurable, with real results. And that leads me to my story of that's the passion of our company is permanent results, meaning you're free of it and we measure results as you go through the program. And the reason is because when I was growing up, my dad is a physicist and he said you know, anybody can have a theory or an idea. He said but I like science because it's the person that gets results. Results matter and you know that Europe is. You know, you're physically incredible because you understand the body and results. And 2% solutions is in the title, which means measurable. Let's measure it, let's be realistic. I mean, yeah, it's great to have someone say believe in yourself, girlfriend. I mean that sounds great, but it's not practical. 2% solutions solution. So this is an alignment. And he said results matter. And I said results do matter.

Daniel Packard: 8:02

And this idea of making things that work, that get results, is basically inventing, which I wanted to be. So I went to engineering school and I was properly trained how to look at complex problems and then you create a mechanical understanding that makes it simple. Then you build a prototype, but then you're not done. What do you do? You test and then you look at results and it never worked in the beginning. And you get trained to calibrate, refine and optimize until you develop something that gets consistent results and engineers are trained to do it and it's sort of like what we like to do. So the good news was I was trained to make machines work.

Daniel Packard: 8:38

Downside was was not trained how to make light work so I could make a robot that played ping pong, but I was an insecure, anxious, people pleasing, perfectionist person with low self-esteem. So yay for robots. And you know, like your audience, I go looking for help, and so I go to therapists, I go to psychologists, I go to coaches and teachers and spiritual teachers. If I'm honest, I was probably in a cult, but I mean, I pretty much tried everything out there 10 years, 100 grand spent, and I sort of looked at the results and it wasn't good. The results were insights, awareness, tips and tools to manage, which is okay. But the result we want is to be free of it, and I wasn't.

Daniel Packard: 9:25

I still didn't like who I was, I was still insecure. I was still anxious. I knew there was a version of my life I wanted to live that I wasn't getting to. And I, just in one particular moment, I was also pissed. I was like a hundred grand, 10 years, really, really and I look up to who's ever up there listening and I was pissed. I was like what do you want from me, man? What do you? Maybe you shouldn't call God man, but like what do you want from me, ethereal creature of the divine, but whatever. And I was like I know this is a test, but 10 years, a hundred grand, what am I missing? And I was just being rhetorically angry. I didn't expect an answer. But I got an answer, which is what my dad told me.

Daniel Packard: 10:04

I heard this sort of voice in me said hey, man, results matter. And I looked at my results and I said this isn't great results. And then I looked and the personal development, psychological, spiritual industry. It's a trillion dollar industry globally, trillion with a T. And as far as I could tell, nobody was getting fast, permanent, reliable results. And so, for my own pain, the pain of others that have these patterns, that they can manage but want to be free up so they can be happier.

Daniel Packard: 10:35

I said I'm an engineer, I know how to problem solve, and I started my own research company, full Liberation Technology, with the mission to say, hey, could we engineer this? Could we reverse, engineer a process that's simple, step by step, so that at the end, what you're struggling with one of the funky five is gone, and not coming back and make it measurable and repeatable. And it was way harder than I thought it was so hard. But that's the beauty of engineers we are unrelenting, focused problems solvers. That's who creates all the technologies, the inventors and the engineers. And look at what they've accomplished.

Daniel Packard: 11:11

There's a helicopter on Mars, di, which means somebody put a rover on Mars. And then somebody said you know, we need footage from higher up and instead of saying, well, it's on Mars, what do you want from us? Someone said I know helicopter and someone said let's do it. But that's focused engineers, job solvers. And we focused on the inside. It took eight years, a million dollars in research and development. We cracked the code, which is we have this system such that in six weeks, anxiety, procrastination, people pleasing, perfectionism, low self-confidence gone, and it's measurable because results matter. And because results matter when people work with us, we don't charge them at the beginning because we haven't gotten you a result, and results matter to us. We charge you at the end, once what you're struggling with is gone and not coming back, partly because people are skeptical, because this is innovative and it lowers the risk. But also results matter, and if we can't get your results, we're not taking your money. Other people will, but we won't because it's not right.

Dai Manuel: 12:12

I think it's so interesting. I mean, I can appreciate that engineering brain of yours also just wanting to see the right solution. And the nice thing about the scientific method is, I mean, you measure the inputs. You don't like the outputs. You got to change the input. You know like it's, it's. It seems pretty simple but but it requires a lot of observation, a lot of discipline. But also, you know, it does point to change and and I know we're we're all fairly change averse, at least a lot of the time. And and I was curious, you know, because what we're talking about here is change but it's also changing a lot of our understanding around what you call the funky buy right, and I think most of us, and me included, have had the hundred thousand dollar experience maybe not quite to that level, of investing in a lot of other modalities to support this um, but in those traditional models like therapy and medication why, is it?

Dai Manuel: 13:11

you know, from your perspective, I guess, because you've been doing this for quite a while now and I know it's taken a lot of time to get the system to where it is today, to also get through a lot of the clients and the test cases to be able to show the results that you've been able to create. But, but I mean, what are the key limitations to a lot of these other approaches for when it comes to managing anxiety specifically?

Daniel Packard: 13:34

First of all, it's a great question. And what we discovered and why what we do so effective is? It's dead simple and it's based on something very obvious, sitting right under everybody's nose. And when we discovered it and started getting these results, me and my team were like why us? It's been a hundred years of modern psychology, mental health experts, yet anxiety is on the rise, self-harm in girls is up 150%, depression is on the rise, addiction is on the rise. Because they missed this simple thing. And we were like they're the experts, what? Why was it us?

Daniel Packard: 14:09

And I've talked to therapists, I've talked to psychologists and teachers and the best I can come up with and this also is them is, first of all, to do what we did was focus to solve the problem. It's a specific focus and a lot of energy at that, takes a lot of motivation, a specific place and a lot of energy at that. It takes a lot of motivation in a specific place. And I've talked to therapists and I said and they've seen our model. And they said, oh yeah, no, I could see that working better. And I said, why didn't you guys do it? I mean, I was flying last month and I saw a guy with an emotional support animal. Now, I get it. If you're anxious, the animal can calm you down. But that means that there are experts that have been on the job for hundreds of years and when someone was struggling they were like I know what? Here's a dog. Like. That's not great technology, that is not innovation, Right? Dogs have been around 50,000 years, so they're not.

Daniel Packard: 15:04

And I've asked them why aren't you guys innovating? I went to therapy as a kid. I went to therapy when I was older. It was the same stuff and they said you know, honestly, we're sort of complacent. I had a therapist admit that we're complacent. This is our industry. We go to school, we learn this stuff in schools. It's basically management or understanding. We learn it and we open a business and we, you know that's our business, it's our whole industry. And I said none of you are like really focused and devoted to solving. I mean, I'd like to say yes, but no, so they are complacent.

Daniel Packard: 15:43

But also, engineers are focused problem solvers. We're really good at that. Not everybody is. It's not bad or wrong. The problem is the engineering. Innovating problem solvers are focused on the outside. The people focused on the inside are the learner sharers, that's, the therapists, the coaches, spiritual teachers, Learner sharers, but not innovators. Focus on the inside. The problem solving not innovators focus on the inside. The problem solving engineering innovators are focused on the outside. So no innovation. And I don't know what my karma was. I don't know what God's plan was for me, but if you take a circle of engineering innovators and the circle of internal learner shares and you overlap those two circles a little bent diagram there's a liver which is the Danimal who said I know, instead of an engineer innovating on the outside and lowering carbon emissions, let's focus on the inside to make people happier. So I think the limitation is that they are not motivated either financially, energetically, industrially meaning their industry. They're not focused to problem solve and I think that's why they haven't solved it.

Dai Manuel: 16:49

And we did, because we wanted to and we put the time in you know, begs the question too, then, because I think it's exciting that you know there even is an opportunity to solve. I mean, I think about my own anxiety at times and and it's funny, I know when it gets bad, it gets bad when I'm not doing the little things that often just help calm me. You know, like if I'm not sleeping well, not eating well, I'm not moving regularly, like there's just these little things that help me manage just stress, the stress that you know, like if I'm not sleeping well, not eating well, I'm not moving regularly, like there's just these little things that help me manage just stress, the stress that I think that's unchecked, that often triggers some of my anxiety. But I know, since we started working together, I started to realize that, wow, there's other symptoms that work here and there's obviously other root causes which I was completely unaware of.

Dai Manuel: 17:37

And I think that's what's so innovative about your system You're really looking to pull this out of the roof or at least be able to deal with it to create a very quick change. So I know this is all pointing and alluding to, obviously, the science and, without getting into a lot of the IP and some of the systems that are very uniquely your own. Could you share a little bit about why are these results happening? With your sort of modality, you know, with this system, like what, what is the scientific principles that work here? Like I guess I'm a science guy, I'm a data guy and I'm always fascinated by that stuff. When you start to see results like well, why is it working, when they haven't been able to do this for a hundred years? And and I know I don't want you to give away your secret sauce, I get, but do you think?

Daniel Packard: 18:16

you can speak a little bit well. First of all, I'm sad that what we discovered is it's not a secret nobody knows because it's an innovation and frankly, I want to give it away, I?

Daniel Packard: 18:28

I. What we've discovered is so simple and the planet needs the experts didn't see the, the low-lying fruit. And there's historical precedence for this. Uh, several people in physical medicine, one specifically, florence nightingale. She was a nurse in the 1850s. You know I bring this up and you know she saw all these soldiers were dying, more soldiers were dying in bat in recovery than and she goes to the experts and says, can we do something about it? And they were complacent. They said this is just part of war, don't worry about it. But she didn do something about it. And they were complacent. They said this is just part of war, don't worry about it. But she didn't worry about it. She wanted to solve this. So what did she discover? Nothing fancy Hygiene, they're getting infections, open the windows, change the bandages and I don't know, maybe move them away from the toilet and the death rate dropped by 99%. Something dead simple, sitting right under everybody's nose. She found it because she wanted to, and now everybody knows about hygiene and infection. And so what we discovered?

Daniel Packard: 19:24

It's sad that it took just long to figure it out, but we want it, I want people to steal it, I want this to be common knowledge. I want kids to learn this. So if get it, I want it just to get out there so you can steal my IP. I don't want it to be intellectual property. This is basic happiness. To get out there so you can steal my IP. I don't want it to be intellectual property. This is basic happiness. I want it to spread so no one's going to steal my. If people want to steal my stuff, steal and share away the reason what it is is based in.

Daniel Packard: 19:48

Again, we wanted to solve. So to solve things. A good way to solve things is mechanical. It's just a good approach. Spiritual and psychological. It's kind of vague and abstract. But if you can understand the mechanics of something, then you understand mechanically the issue and the mechanical solution. So the average person gets spirituality and psychology. These are abstract understanding things Mindset, scarcity, mindset, not believing in yourself, your ego, limiting beliefs, the story you tell yourself. It's like kind of a flashlight pointing around to what's going wrong. But it's not real mechanical, right, it's not solid. Because if you don't believe yourself and I say believe in yourself like can you, can you, can you do, can you do that quickly?

Dai Manuel: 20:42

like can you, can you, can you do, can you do that quickly? Uh, no, I mean, it obviously would just be me saying something in my head, do I believe? It do I feel it no, not really, not really, I'd have to really yeah you know, I'd have to go through a whole process to try to get myself to believe in the moment, like, yeah, you know, yeah, for sure, but for sure, but it's abstract.

Daniel Packard: 20:57

It's not clear, like what's the? It I don't believe in. Why don't I? What's going on? How do I do this?

Daniel Packard: 21:03

But if you had a broken leg and I said, go fix it, you know how to do that. You go to the doctor. Your bone is in two pieces. That's a mechanical issue. That's not a negative mindset, that's not a story. It's a mechanical issue. You go to the doctor. They put a cast on which mechanically holds it still. Then a mechanism fuses the bone from two pieces to one piece and in eight weeks you're up and running.

Daniel Packard: 21:27

So nobody says, oh, I broke my bone, but my childhood is so messed up I have to live like this forever because it's a mechanical understanding. So we said we got to make this mechanical and that's what we did. We figured out a mechanical understanding of the root cause and we made it simple. So here's the first thing you need to know the things that people are struggling with, but specifically the funky five anxiety, procrastination, people pleasing perfectionism, low self-confidence.

Daniel Packard: 21:51

It feels like you got multiple problems and you're told it's multiple problems. And it feels like multiple problems. But it's not multiple problems. It's symptoms of one thing, which is fear. Okay, anxiety, it's just a lot of fear and then you call that anxiety, which is understandable, but it's just fear. A procrastinator is afraid to start things and finish things. A people pleaser is afraid that people won't be happy with them, so they want to make everybody happy and pleased. A perfectionist is afraid to make a mistake. Someone with low self-confidence is afraid to be their true selves. So just mechanically, can you see if we make it simple and say those aren't problems, those are symptoms of one thing fear. Can you see that that already starts to move us towards the root cause and get better results?

Dai Manuel: 22:41

Yeah, it totally does. That makes a lot of sense.

Daniel Packard: 22:51

So it's kind of eerily odd that it has to be that simplistic to make that much sense. Well, when I tell people, they'll say how do you, how do you get rid of this stuff? What magical voodoo do you do? I'm like we're engineered. We we weren't attached to regurgitating old information. We started from scratch and we just looked at what was obvious. People know this. Your audience doesn't need me to tell you that fear is an issue. But when you're told you're a procrastinator, we're going to be working on your mindset, we're going to be setting goals. Great might manage it, but the root cause, the fear, is still there. So we were like we're engineers. We got to figure out why are people afraid and how to solve it quickly so the fear goes away and stays away. Doesn't that just sound better?

Dai Manuel: 23:33

I sure got me, man. And so what? What is I mean? Could you explain a little bit about? I don't necessarily need to get into all the how, uh, of course that's sort of what the program is based around, and obviously that's where I mean. You have a whole toolkit that you provide people, which makes total sense actually, because I'm like not, you talk about the funky five and I imagine there's different strategies to support with each of them. You know, I know I've been focused with our work together more so on the anxiety piece, and it's been really, uh, instrumental in helping me just see things differently but also notice things earlier so I can do things in the moment that make a difference. And so with these funky five, it fears that the root cause for a lot of those or you're trying to identify the fear, like I get it so. So I'm clear here, daniel. Like basically we got these funky five, but they all have the same root system. It sounds like you know they all have the same problem.

Dai Manuel: 24:31

It's all an underlining fear. So what is it about your system that allows people to start to see results so quickly? Where others don't like what? What is it specifically like it? I mean, with all the people that you've worked with? Maybe you have a situation or a story you can share, because I'm I don't know if people really understand this and, like I was very doubtful to tell everybody the truth. Uh, you know, being someone that's dealt with things, I'm like my entire life I'm like yeah, whatever, like as if I can get rid of this like right away.

Dai Manuel: 24:59

I've tried lots of stuff, man and, and I'm pretty good at managing it, so I was a bit standoffish at first, to be honest, because I'm apprehensive, I mean it's, it's fair, Daniel, I'm sure you get that a lot. You know people just could talk about just a little bit why is this so damn?

Dai Manuel: 25:25

effective. Like what is it specifically? Or maybe give us an example of one of your clients and what was one of the things that really moved the needle forward for them so that they didn't have to have the anxiety anymore? I'm trying to wrap my head around that.

Daniel Packard: 25:38

Of course you are, and it's good that I share with you, because if I don't explain to you how it's possible, of course your audience is skeptical. When we went off to do this, we were skeptical. We were like nothing solves this, not quickly. We didn't think we could pull it off. We just knew we had to try which is beautiful. But again, what think we could pull it off? We just knew we had to try which beautiful. And but again, what we discovered is not fancy.

Daniel Packard: 26:01

It's that the expert missed the simple thing. Here's the first thing that makes it, uh, effective and it I'm sharing with this, this with you, so you understand why this works. It'll also highlight to your audience why what they've tried in the past hasn't worked, because when things don't work, you try and you fail. You think it's your fault, you think you're broken, you think there's something wrong with you and I'm like there's nothing wrong with you. The experts were ill-equipped and not focused on solving this. That's why you're still stuck with it. It's not your fault, it's them, honestly.

Daniel Packard: 26:35

So here's what we did. The first thing was we said okay, if you want to solve something reliably and efficiently, what works in the world, regardless of the approach? And the answer is you need a system and we looked around and we're like, okay, first of all, there's not a lot of systems for being happier, there's tips and tools for management. So said, what does a good system have? And we realized it's a good system will have an optimized toolkit focused on one specific job that gets the job done. Mechanics have mechanic toolkits, contractor has contracting toolkits, the surgeon has surgical tool. It's an optimized toolkit to get one specific job done. That's what worked. So you know this if you hire a contractor to rebuild your house and they walk up and they've got like a hammer and they're like, all right, we're here, I got one tool, got a hammer, let's get it on. Are you gonna have full confidence they can rebuild your whole house quickly with one tool?

Dai Manuel: 27:32

not with their duct tape. I'll tell you.

Daniel Packard: 27:35

Can we talk, dave? Again, a very Canadian answer, very Canadian. The fact is, if you want in anything, a quick, reliable system, it's an optimized toolkit to get one job done. Your audience hasn't gotten that. They get one tip from this person work on your mindset, just go to this person. Work on your breath, work One person, work on your ego, and that's fine for management and understanding. But not a fast, effective solution.

Daniel Packard: 28:01

You need multiple tools in one place. That's what all the time was spent to get all the tools in one place. So you're not running around trying this, failing, trying that, failing, trying this, failing. So first of all, all the tools in one place. But even that's not going to solve anything. Because let's say you have a friend who wants to make a chocolate chip cookie and you give them all the ingredients and all the tools to do it. They have everything they need, but they have no idea how to bake. They can't make a chocolate chip cookie because they don't have the instructions what to do, in what order, for how long. That's completely necessary to get consistent results.

Daniel Packard: 28:39

And we know when a surgeon goes to operate, it's a specific order. They don't operate first and cut you first, then anesthetize you anesthesia first, then they cut you open, like there's an order to things, but we don't get instructions. You get instructions for Ikea furniture, but not for happiness. I'd go to coaches and therapists and they'd give me a tool I'd take good luck, then I'd fail and think I was broken. So why this works is two things. One is you're getting all the tools in one place and simple step-by-step instructions what to do on what day, in what order and when. You step instructions what to do on what day, in what order and when. You can't fail, just like a gym. Follow the steps, you get the results. Now there's another reason the theory of what the tools are doing, and I'll explain that to you. But first you have like a question you want to ask or any clarification.

Dai Manuel: 29:33

You know, and thank you for asking, I, I love this idea of the toolkit. I just yeah, it was actually just reminding me, cause I, I, I speak to this when I think about people and just the aches and pains that they just learn to endure. You know what I mean. Like it's just from misuse of our bodies we often start to get aches and pains. It's like if we spend all day sitting, eventually the back starts to hurt, the knees might start to hurt, the back starts to hurt, the knees might start to hurt, and it's funny, it's like anything. Why it's her? Well, it's our body screaming at us like dude, you got them and because you haven't been moving, things aren't working very well. And so I show people very effectively little movements they could do to wake the body up with simply things like a roller or lacrosse ball or even just using a wall, but it's very mechanical, very specific to the body part. So I, you know it, it baffles me that we haven't done something like this in the mental health space, you know. So I commend you for this, I, so I'm excited. Yeah, please continue.

Dai Manuel: 30:27

But I was just thinking. It's like I just want to reaffirm, I mean, what you've been saying I'm just like it, of like, why don't we look at this? Yeah, I'm just like why you gotta think about talk therapy, right? And I'm like, oh my god, shoot me now. And I'm sorry, I apologize for everybody, like I've done it before. I've done a lot of it, I've been to therapists, but there comes a time and place where I'm just like I cannot talk about this problem anymore. It is not doing anything for me. No, like, if, like, if anything. It was actually more triggering because I just felt, man, I'm constantly reminded of this inadequacy I have, that I can't seem to you know, move past.

Daniel Packard: 31:06

And people know this, people know this and again, I don't know what's in that industry's heart. I know something is off. I'm not here to dismiss or disparage them.

Dai Manuel: 31:17

They're doing the best they can. I'm not here to dismiss or disparage them. They're doing the best they can.

Daniel Packard: 31:19

I'm trying to wake your audience up that the experts are not experts. Think about this Experts are people that get great results. Okay, if somebody gets great results, you usually can be like, oh, they're an expert in this industry. And there are people in this world that get incredible results and they don't call themselves experts. You know, if you go to LeBron James, he gets incredible results. He doesn't say I'm a basketball expert, ok, I have an accountant, that's very good. He doesn't say I'm an accounting expert, even though he is an expert and gets results. He doesn't use the word expert.

Daniel Packard: 31:52

The mental health industry they're getting horrible results. Anxieties on the rise, depression, depression, addictions on the rise. They're the last people to be calling themselves experts, but they call themselves mental health experts like you guys. Gotta slow your roll a bit, because when you call yourself expert, people trust you. They fail and feel broken. Now if you can say we're not mental health experts, we're just doing the best we can and we're handing out band-aid, fine, just that's all you can get. But be honest and in integrity with who you are. We call ourselves experts because we have a 90% success rate and you pay at the end. When you get results, we get results, so I'm calling myself an expert, fair enough.

Dai Manuel: 32:38

And why they haven't.

Daniel Packard: 32:40

I think it's just built into their industry and it's the way things are done, which with everything in the world. People tolerate things. And then there's an innovation. I just found out that the reason that George Washington died is he had a cold, and what they did at the time is they would take your blood out of your body and put it in the fresh air and hope the blood would clean itself. That's what the experts could work Spoiler alert it did. He died and then they innovated. So every industry innovates Mental health, personal development, spirituality has not innovated yet.

Daniel Packard: 33:13

Even meditation. Great, valuable. That's 5,000-year-old technology. We innovated. And what you said, the body. You work in the body. Everything's mechanical. There's a system, there's a tool, you get results. And that was the big breakthrough. We found that fear is not coming from the mind. The experts tell you it's coming from the mind. Okay, work on your mindset, stop your scarcity, thinking, your critical thoughts. Mental health has the word mental right in there. Now, if it was coming from the mind, great, but modern psychology has had a hundred years to get it together. It's not working. So, yes, the mind can say scary, negative things, and if you feel scared and negative about yourself, it seems like it's the mind, just one problem. That approach doesn't get great results. But we said maybe it's not coming from the mind, maybe it's coming from somewhere else. And because we were open, we saw fear doesn't originate in the mind. Fear originates in the body. When you have anxiety, do you say I think anxious or I feel anxious?

Dai Manuel: 34:16

feel anxious, for sure, yeah, we feel it all the way.

Daniel Packard: 34:19

You feel the fear, you feel the anxiety, the, what. You feel it in your body and mechanically, you feel fear in your body first and it spreads to the mind. But there's a concept in science called causation versus correlation. Something can be correlated, but not the cause. If you put a tea kettle on a flame and steam starts showing up, the steam is there, but what caused what? Was it the flame causing the steam or the steam causing the flame? Which is it?

Daniel Packard: 34:51

well, the flame boiled the water, which created this yeah, they're happening at the same time and if you don't understand basic physics you'll be like I don't know what's causing what. But we figured out what's causing what. It's body first, mind second. And you know that because you know, when you're calmer in the body, your mind tends to be a little bit quieter and notice good things, and when you feel a little bit more fear and anxiety, your mind starts to spin and amp up and notice yeah. So there it is. But also people do breath work. You do breath work in the body. It calms the body and then the mind follows. It's temporary, but at least it proves it's body first, mind second. It's also how we're wired. Your body senses what the body needs. You feel hunger, then your mind goes oh, we need to go order food.

Daniel Packard: 35:33

So the reason nobody's solved this yet is because they're literally sending people to the wrong location. Of course they're getting bad results. They sent you to the wrong place. We are going to the correct location the body and, as you can imagine, it's not that hard to think. If you go from the wrong location to the right location, you're going to get better results. And the beauty is, you know, because you're a guy who works in the body. Once you're in the body, things are way simpler. They're mechanical. So we just said, where in the body is this fear coming from? And it was really obvious. I'll give you three. I'll give you three guesses. Well, let me ask you, because, again, what we discovered is almost common sense. It's just the experts confuse us. If I said what system in the body is making everybody afraid, what would be your guess?

Dai Manuel: 36:26

The endocrine system. What'd you say? Endocrine like your hormones or your nervous system, I would think too, you know, like central nervous system.

Daniel Packard: 36:35

Central nervous system. I would think too, you know, like central nervous system. Central nervous system oh, that's a pretty good guess, because everyone's feeling afraid and I don't know the word nervous system has the word nervous right effing in there. Yes, it's the nervous system. It's got the word nervous right in there. We know the systems can malfunction and cause problems.

Daniel Packard: 36:57

And even though the whole planet is afraid and there's a system in the body called the nervous system, the experts were like no, this is a mind thing. And a hundred years later they're like let's talk about your childhood. No, the fear is your nervous system's mechanic. Your nervous system is your body keyword body's natural. Your nervous system is your body keyword body's natural threat response system. Yeah, it's there to detect threats. If it's functioning properly, there's no threat, you feel safe.

Daniel Packard: 37:26

But if it's malfunctioning, you think there's a threat, you feel unsafe, which creates this feeling of fear. So the fear is not coming from your mind. The fear originates because your nervous system isn't being properly taken care of and I'll get more into that later and it's making you feel unsafe from the inside out. That unsafety creates fear and then that fear leads to the funky five. So you don't have procrastination. You're not a perfectionist, you don't have low self-confidence, you don't have anxiety. These aren't diseases. They call them disorders Anxiety disorder. What are you talking about? First of all, that makes people feel even worse. You have a disorder. You don't have a disorder. Your nervous system is malfunctioning, you feel unsafe and fearful, and then these are symptoms and coping mechanisms. That's what's going on. What do you think?

Daniel Packard: 38:19

I think it's awesome, and what's the whole thing about?

Dai Manuel: 38:20

it. It does make total sense Because when I think about the funky five, when you say it, it's exactly right. Like they're not, I'm not going to hold onto those terms. And like I and people know this, I haven't had a drink for over 15 years. You know there's there's a story there. I'm not going to get into it today. You can go and listen to the episodes or watch my Ted talk, but long and short of it, I haven't drank for 15.

Dai Manuel: 38:42

I remember going to meetings when I first started thinking that I must be an alcoholic. You know like it was a nice label to be attached to what I was doing. You know it just seemed to be the best way to describe what I was, I was dealing with. But I remember going to my first two meetings and you know being encouraged that I have to own that identity for the rest of my life. I'm an alcoholic, once an alcoholic, always an alcohol, you know, and and you're always going to be living one day at a time and trying to choose the straight. Now, and I think it's a phenomenal program, I've got a lot of friends in recovery but but it didn't land with me. You know this idea because I believe that my drinking was a symptom of other stressors in my life which it certainly was, you know and some of those symptoms weren't killing their or overwhelming life, or just the sheer fact that I was like trying to give myself a reason to have a break. You know, because I was working a ton and as soon as I started to treat it like a symptom, it was amazing how quickly I was able to see myself and to use the term, get better. I mean, I don't know if it's getting better, I just felt better, I felt healthier, I felt more in tune and more present in my life, and that's why I'm really excited about what you do, daniel, and I'm excited that we're embarking on this together.

Dai Manuel: 40:05

Full disclosure, when I've signed up, I'm doing this, and that was why I actually, after I met Daniel, I was like man, I have you on the podcast, dude, we gotta talk about this as well as we recorded one of my sessions with daniel and uh and I already told you I'm a content guy and I'm encouraging him hey, man, if you want to capture some of this, go ahead and share it. I'm okay, I'm a, I am full disclosure. Transparency is, you know, as you guys all know the raw and real is my deal. I don't care, you know what it's gonna end up out there anyway. So, um, uh, daniel's going to make that accessible. So if you guys actually want to see this in action, we'll have some information towards the end of today's conversation. I'll also include them in the show notes so you can go and check that out. Also, daniel's got some really powerful offers and some resources that he's prepared to give us.

Dai Manuel: 40:48

So, um, sorry I got off track there, daniel, but I just wanted to just, you know, you asked me what I think about that and I'm like hell, yeah, I love this. I think this is fantastic, you know. So please continue. You know, I know we're sort of veering down this path to getting closer to what is the system, but I don't think we necessarily have to get into how it's done. People can see that in action when they talk to me. But I'd love to hear more about the real life successes that you're creating just once we get through what we're talking about right now. If you can just share a few stories of people's lives, as you do, I, I love hearing about those success stories because it gives me, you know, one hope. Um, but secondly, I I can always see myself in the other stories and I I find that so inspiring because, like, all right, well, vote for them. I know it's gonna work for me, you know.

Daniel Packard: 41:36

so, um, if we can have some space for that too, that'd be great I have thank you and uh, I get very into the theory and the this and, like people, I want to know what it looks like in other people. So I'll give you a couple stories. First of all, mine. Okay, I was an insecure angst. I was so anxious with ptsd, was in a fetal position, afraid to leave my house. I cared what people think of me, I was a perfect all of it. I didn't have issues. I had freaking subscriptions. Okay, I had all of it. I needed people to like me. I held back who I was. I couldn't leave the house because of the fear. Do I strike you as an anxious person with low self-confidence right now? No, no, okay, I'm not enlightened. I didn't believe in myself. I used our own program. I was one of the early test cases and when you calm the nervous system down, which is what the program does, the end result is what we want to feel, which is safe. When you have a healthy nervous system, you feel safe. I now feel safe from within. When you feel safe just within, you don't have fear. When the fear lifts magically, you're confident, open-hearted, you don't care what people think of you and the anxiety goes away and stays away. So mine's the first story. All that stuff has been gone and never came back. But also, this is what we're getting people is this feeling of safety.

Daniel Packard: 43:07

I had a client his name is Andy, he's from Oregon and he came to me. He had anxiety, panic attacks and procrastination, but also because of that it was so bad he would hide in his office. He said I'm not out there playing with my kids. And he said I've spent a lot of money, I've lost hope. None of this stuff works. I don't even think this can work. He said. But I met somebody at a conference who had anxiety and panic attacks and they swore by what you did. And he said well, it's not gonna work for me. He said no, you don't get it. You pay at the end when it works. And he said nobody does that. Like, how do you even do that? And so A he said it's worth a shot. I said it is be skeptical. But like, try it, because if it works you get your life back. So I explained to him. I said you don't have all these problems. You have care of it. You feel unsafe from a malfunctioning nervous system. We're going to repair it and retrain it so that you feel safe and he said is that even possible? I haven't felt safe since I was a kid. I was like, yeah, welcome to the planet. So, to his credit, he was skeptical but open.

Daniel Packard: 44:03

He goes through the program and about week five we knew this from the data because we track it, and we knew his result. His anxiety was down from about eight out of 10 for about seven hours a day down to about a three and a half out of 10 for about half an hour a day. His panic attacks were gone in the first week. His procrastination he went from stalling two hours a day, meaning he would avoid, for two hours a day. That went down to 15 minutes. His productivity went from about 30 minutes a day up to four hours a day and the amount of time that he could focus and get stuff done went from 15 minutes in a row up to about 90 minutes in a row. So we knew he was happier.

Daniel Packard: 44:44

But he reached out and he said Daniel, not only is the anxiety almost gone, the panic attacks are gone, I'm getting more stuff done. He said. But I just felt a feeling I haven't felt in years. He said I just felt safe. And he said it's not going away. And I said I know it's beautiful.

Daniel Packard: 45:04

He said this is what everybody wants. I said why? He said because when we feel safe, the fear lifts and then it unlocks all the things we're naturally meant to be authentic, open-hearted, playful, spontaneous, fulfilled. He said this is so simple. We're just terrified and we don't have access to our full selves. And then they label all this stuff like adhd and people please. No, we're just terrified, we don't feel safe. And then we got all these problems, not that complicated. He said not only do I feel safe, but now I know how to model behavior to my children so they have less anxiety and more confidence. But also, for the first time in months, I was outside playing with my kids. He said, son, so not only have you given my life back not just back, but it's going to be better but my kids have their father back and my wife has her husband back.

Daniel Packard: 45:58

And that is the power of not managing symptoms, but going to the root cause and healing people so that they get what we all want to feel, which is to feel safe. Because when you're safe, you are free and it just naturally unlocks your potential. That's the power of what we're doing and it's a whole new way of doing things and it's hard for people to wrap their heads around and that's why we say look, I'm not trying to convince you, this will work. You can't. You can't know until you actually do the entire system and process and feel it.

Daniel Packard: 46:27

When you feel it, our clients are always like oh God, this actually works. I only did it because you know. But wow, but look at what I'm saying. If we go from the wrong location to the right location, okay, if we give you a complete toolkit with all the instructions and we understand that a nervous system might make you feel unsafe and fearful and we know systems in the body can malfunction and be repaired then it tracks. It makes sense that this is possible and might give you hope that you don't have to live like this forever. And between giving you hope and you can try it for basically for free, we want to encourage people to try it, not convince them, but be open to trying it so that you can be the person you are meant to be and live the life that you are meant to live.

Dai Manuel: 47:16

And thank you for that, daniel.

Dai Manuel: 47:17

I think this is just it's wonderful, but I also appreciate you know the how you're going about this right now, like when Roy first uh you know he made the introduction but also told me about how you were doing this and I was like, wait, he's charging after the results have been delivered. And he's like, great, I don't know he's crazy, but that just sounds like I mean, there's a lot of time and energy and I know there's a lot invested for you to create this company. I like really. And he's like, yeah, but it makes sense. When I think about it, and after our conversations and after being introduced to the system, I was like, okay, well, because it's not generally accepted and you are going, you're fighting an uphill battle. Let's be honest. You know like there is so much legacy, thoughts and beliefs that have already been laid, as you said, with a hundred years of of a pretty new science. To begin with, I mean, let's, let's be honest. It's just like fitness, right, Nutritional science, like nutrition.

Dai Manuel: 48:16

I mean we know nothing about it right, like really in the whole scope of science. Nutrition science has only been around a little while Right and uh, we've only known like the last 67 years about how are you right, like so it's like so I can only imagine what you're dealing with in in in this space. So what's been received so far? I'm just curious Do you find that some people have even become more skeptical when you say listen, tell you what you don't even have to pay all the like? I almost it sounds like a sales pitch.

Daniel Packard: 48:42

It is a sales pitch.

Dai Manuel: 48:43

It's a free, good one. But I was how have people been reacting to that?

Daniel Packard: 48:51

Sadly not the way we wanted it, sadly not the way we wanted. It seems so weird. Why do you think that is Because you just said it. It's the inertia. It's what people Look, I can sit here and I can lay it out and say, look, this is simple and everyone can go. That makes sense. But your experience is what educates you. Your experience you've had this for decades. You've tried all these different things that didn't work. Your experience tells you I'm stuck with this, I can only manage it, and if there is a solution, it's got to be complicated and it can't be fat. That's your experience.

Daniel Packard: 49:22

And this industry is wrought with people that over-promise and under-deliver and until you do the process, you can't fully trust me. You can like me and say, wow, daniel looks almost identical to Tom Selleck. Like, of course you can say that, but like you can't trust me fully. So, pete, when we invented this and we got these results, then we said you can pay. At the end we thought this was going to catch like wildfire. Nope, because there was. It took 30, took 30 years for what Florence Nightingale figured out to catch on 30 years, and millions of men died unnecessarily because simple takes a while to catch on when you're used to complicated.

Daniel Packard: 50:04

But also what we're doing is real change, di. And people will tell you they want to change. But guess what, when it's actually on the table, it scares the crap out of them. They've had it for so long. It becomes their identity. I'm a perfectionist, I'm a people, I'm an alcoholic. It becomes you and your identity and the idea of letting it go. I mean, who would I be without this? I know this comfortable misery. What would it look? And they unconsciously I know this comfortable misery, what would it look? And they unconsciously I've seen it on sales calls they're like yeah, I want to change, I want to be free of this. And then it gets time for action. They're like you know, I think that's not the right time. I'm like what exactly is the right time to be happier? And so the people that we work with are skeptical, but open, but motivated. Because they have their skepticism and unconsciously, there is some fear of like who would I be without this? But if the motivation is strong enough to make your life better, if that's stronger than the resistance, that's who we work with and it's like one in a thousand, it's not most. I hope years from now, what we've discovered isn't innovative and everybody's doing it. Like if you tell someone who has cavities, brush and floss, they don't say I'm skeptical. Or if someone has a broken bone and you say, go to the doctor and put a cast, they don't go. Oh, that's an interesting theory. No, I hope eventually people aren't skeptical, but right now they are. It's one in a thousand and this is who works with us to that one in a thousand. I'm talking to you.

Daniel Packard: 51:34

If you have anxiety and you're managing it, life's okay, you can get through it. You're high functioning, you're white knuckling it, you can get through. But, man, if you could be free of it so you could wake up every morning looking forward to the day and be happier. We help people get that all the time. We can get you that in six weeks.

Daniel Packard: 51:52

If you're a procrastinator and you're managing it, you're working on it and it's better. But, man, if you could be free of it so you could wake up every morning and just get stuff done, be productive, bring value to the world, look in the mirror and be proud of what you see. We can get you that in six weeks. We do it all the time. Perfectionists, if you want to stop that fear of worry of it has to be a certain way which constricts your potential and your joy, and just do stuff where you don't care about the outcome, which allows you to produce more, but enjoy it more, which is what you want so you can be fulfilled and you're managing it. These people who say, oh, I'm a perfect, I'm a recovering perfectionist, that's code for it's, I'm managing it if you want to be free of it, we can get.

Daniel Packard: 52:32

Get you that Especially low confidence. We just had a kid, 23, from Montana, hadn't had a date in two years, could not talk to a girl, terrified. I just got a message from him. He said I just had the best day of my life. He said yesterday I saw a girl at a party I'm saying girl because they're young girl. He said yeah, I saw her. And he said there was a guy talking to her. And he said I walked up and I just tapped the guy on the shoulder and I said it's my turn. And I was like no, james, but he chats to the girl.

Daniel Packard: 53:08

He, because any he asks for a date. He says yes, they go hiking the next day. He said they started swing dancing under the full moon and he planted a kiss, all in 24 hours. And he said Daniel, that's not even the best part. The best part was the fear was gone. He's free of it now. And now I just spoke to him yesterday. He said this is incredible. I'm free of this man and now my job is to not work on this stuff, it's just to be me. And so you can see I get excited because that's the power of freedom. So if any of that sounds good to your clients, so the one in a thousand that want that so bad that they're willing to try something even though they're skeptical or even though they think it might not work for them. To those motivated people who have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you know, to those motivated people who have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Dai Manuel: 53:58

You know, reach out to me at danielpackardcom. I love it and everyone. Honestly, I got to. Just I'm going to edify a Daniel a little bit more here, Cause I have to your communication stellar. I really appreciate it.

Dai Manuel: 54:06

You, you, you always respond, but also you respond with kindness and empathy, you know, and patience. So I just wanted to say that, because I know that sometimes the conversations on what we're talking about, I mean it's hard, let's be honest, like I don't. We're 30 years. I've been dealing with anxiety. You know that, that identity comment that you made, like who will I be without the anxiety? I'm like, I'm excited to find out. I don't know, but I sure can't wait to meet that guy, you know, and, and because it's just, it's so exciting and you know I've already noticed that some of the exercises you know one of the exercises that we've done you know instant results.

Dai Manuel: 54:47

You know what's really neat too, and and, uh, I, I'm, I do recognize the time we're going to be winding up here pretty quick here, but a real quick note you guys know I'm data heads, I'm a data geek. I love tracking my, my, my info, especially heart rate variability and resting heart rate. Daniel, you're the exercise that we did. It reduced my HRV, my heart rate variability, which is a direct tie into what our nervous system is doing. So, scientifically, data wise, it had instant positive results. Like it was like awesome, you know it's.

Dai Manuel: 55:19

It's nice to see that, cause it's like sometimes it's hard to qualify as well as quantify this type of work, but yours is very quantifiable and and also very much anecdotal, based on the stories that you've been sharing and some of the stories I've read on your website. So, uh, thanks so much for being here today to talk about this. Also, thanks for the creation of this and you know, before we go, because it is the 2% solution, we talked about solutions. You presented a big solution, but if there's listeners, you know, in this audience today that is struggling with anxiety or procrastination right now, what is one immediate step they could take, one action they could take right now to start seeing them prove.

Daniel Packard: 56:01

I mean I got, I got, I got. I just say it to say hey, it's all good.

Daniel Packard: 56:11

Go find out about the system. That's the. If you want tips and tools to manage, that's out there already. There are great tips and tools. Tips and tools to manage has been well covered. Your audience already has them. We don't do anything. That's a tip and a tool and that it's the system and the process and the repetition that gets you the freedom.

Daniel Packard: 56:33

And I'm trying to fight against the world. What's the quick, actionable step I can take? Look, if you haven't taken care of your heart and you now have Clark arteries and you're having a heart attack and nobody says hey, can you give a quick, actionable step? It's like, no, it's too late for that. So I do not want to give a little here or there, because that's the world. I'm trying to get people effing free and it ain't with a little step.

Daniel Packard: 57:00

The one thing I will tell people that they can walk away from this, that can help them quickly, is to realize this isn't your fault. I mean this I used to feel so broken because the stuff didn't work and it wasn't my fault. It's because I trusted people that could get the job done. I'm telling you people that come to us that feel broken, like there's something wrong, that's how it feels, and I'm telling you scientifically, it's not because those people went through our system and it's gone. They weren't broken. There was nothing wrong with them. They just didn't have the proper tools and instruction.

Daniel Packard: 57:38

So there is nothing wrong with you. This is just a mechanical system in your body that can be repaired. If you needed a root canal, you're not broken. This isn't because your dad didn't give you a Christmas present. It's a mechanical issue in the body that can be repaired. So there's nothing wrong with you. Have some compassion for yourself and also hold the people that you trusted accountable and the results that they got you, and don't blame yourself. And then, secondly, if you can hear what I'm saying, man, we go from the wrong location to the right location. We go to a system in the body that's terrifying everybody and we bring it back to health. You can feel safe and free of that. And if you really tune into that and the fact that we only charge at the end, we're the only place in the world that does this, that charges at the end. When we get results, it means we get results. And if you pay attention to all that, what that can give you right now, in this moment, is something we all need, which is hope.

Dai Manuel: 58:32

Well said. Oh, my goodness, oh, okay. Well, everyone I'm linking to Daniel sites, but also specifically I know we've been chatting about this Daniel I've given Daniel full permission to use our one of our coaching sessions together. We'll have a link to that so at the very least, you can see him take me through an entire exercise. And it's literally a call I had with Daniel that complements the system that they've already created, which allows me to really customize the systems uniquely to myself, and it was wild right there at the end of it. You know, like I said, that HRV result was noted, but also just the way I felt for hours after our session was noted. And so it's.

Dai Manuel: 59:13

I can say, you know, after hours and hours and days of talk therapy, I don't remember having a similar result so quickly. I just again I'm speaking from my own experience, not to say that I'm not pro. All that therapy serves a place. It becomes important and tough man, and that's not. You know I get the about Shrek when you were talking today, with that line in the first movie I eat because I'm sad and I'm sad because I eat Right. Like, think about that cycle we find ourselves on, right, I'm anxious because I'm afraid, and I'm afraid because I'm anxious. So why not break the cycle? And so thank you so much for being here today. It's very inspiring, motivating, but also very informational, and I know everyone's going to have questions.

Dai Manuel: 59:58

So best to get ahold of Daniel. I'm including all the social links along with the link to the website. Be sure to check him out. Send Daniel a message. He will respond to you or someone from his team and they get back to you quickly and take him up on the call, have a call with him.

Dai Manuel: 1:00:10

You know what? And uh, take them up on the call, have a call with them. Uh, you know it's free, it doesn't cost you anything. It's honestly one of the best things I've ever done, because the rest of my life I don't have to deal with this label that I thought I was going to have to manage the rest of my life, and I and for that and I'll thank you and uh, just real quick, we'll have a follow-up. Everyone's hearing this. In about three months from now, I'm going to have Daniel on again and I'm going to report back on how my experience has been. Fully, it might actually be sooner than that, cause I know it's only going to take us how much longer to get through the program. Do you figure, daniel? The program.

Dai Manuel: 1:00:45

I didn't ask how long it is, so I I forgot it was six or eight weeks Cause I think there was a. I could have done a couple extra sessions for the coaching, but for what I'm doing, how many?

Daniel Packard: 1:00:54

weeks. So what you did with the one-on-one that was sort of a crash course training with a technique. What you're going to be going through now is the six-week program four modules, 10 days each, videos, exercises, support materials, tracking. So we collect the data so that we know and that's what you'll be going through and reporting back what matters. We know, and that's what you'll be going through and reporting back what matters results and people trust you and you're a results guy. So I am to get this out to the world. It's so skeptical it's going to take early adopters like you. They're like oh my God, we got to get this out to the world, but we got to prove it. And so, by you going through it and sharing your actual, measurable results with your audience, that's going to help them lower the skepticism and increase the hope. Are you ready to increase some hope, dai?

Dai Manuel: 1:01:38

I am ready to pick hope up and lift it up and keep pressing it up and, yes, thank you, thank you, and I want to pass it out like hors d'oeuvres at a party, right, like I just want to give hope to everybody and thank you for being here, daniel, thank you for creating this and thank you for seeing the world and thinking the way that you do. You know, because if you didn't, we wouldn't be here to have this conversation and I'd still be thinking how the heck am I going to frigging, manage this thing for the rest of my life? You know so, thank you. I'm excited to report back everybody. More info in the show notes. Thank you for being here, daniel and everybody. I'll see you in the outro. I got a couple of final words I want to share with you about today's episode. And, yeah, with that, daniel, thank you for being here.

Daniel Packard: 1:02:22

It was an honor.

Dai Manuel: 1:02:27

I told you, didn't I? What an episode. Now, I hope you found our conversation with Daniel Packard as enlightening and inspiring as I did. Daniel shared so many incredible insights about the root causes of anxiety and the revolutionary approach he and his team have developed to help people achieve real, lasting change. Here are the key takeaways Anxiety and other limiting beliefs stem from our nervous system, not just our minds.

Dai Manuel: 1:02:53

By addressing the root cause, Daniel's system provides quick and permanent relief, allowing you to live a more confident and fulfilling life. If you're intrigued and want to learn more, be sure to visit Daniel's website and connect with him on social media. All the links are included in the show notes for you. Remember the 2% solution is about making small changes that lead to significant impacts. If you found value in today's episode, please share it with friends, subscribe to our podcast and hey, if you're feeling generous, leave us a five-star review. Your feedback and engagement are what keep us going and help us bring more transformative content to you and other people out there in the online world. Until next time, keep making those 2% changes towards greatness.