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Hello and welcome to the creaking saltsoap tables of thebrazen hydro pub in BilgewaterWe're your hosts and groven conquest andtoday we'll be sharing a pint and talkingall things we're tearing beyondAll right, so we got a decent pretty bigepisode. I don't againI don't think we're gonna get through allthe topics but this ever do noNo, but this time we actuallywill talk about song of NunuAll right, we're gonna hit that butbefore we get into song of noon and allthat there's onething that I really wantedto talk to you about I wanted to get youropinion on it because it's something thatis the biggestdecision you make an MMO andIt feels like the most significantI agree the most important decision to meeven more than my class is this decision.Mm-hmm. I completely agreeYeah, and that's why ILiterally won't make a class based onthis decision because this is even moreimportant for me. Oh, absolutelyI literally hope they lock off classesdepending on your decision hereYes, and that decision isCharacter creation. Mm-hmmCharacter creation very very importantextremely important. Okay, we've we'vesaid, you know who those races areYeah, we know there's gonna beHuman. Mm-hmm. We know there's gonna bethe style. Yeah, we know there's gonna beyordles. Yeah, I think those three areGuaranteed, there's absolutely no waythat we're not gonna have a right of amole without these three races, right?But then there's alot so humans are prettyThey're not boring, but they're boringThey're all I never play one. I will saythat much other play humanYeah, they are the most popular no matterwhat I'm a mole you playThey're gonna be the most popular race.You know, they're gonnabe like 50% of players areThem the most like if youwant to be your characterThat's the easiest way to be yourcharacter is to make your character themost like you and the way to do thatYou start off doing that is making ahuman. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's thetruth of it. I guess yeahI'm just like I'm in this fantasy world.I'm gonna be a person. Yeah. Yeah, I'mjust gonna be some guyThere are some variations like you haveIn the Freljord you have ooh dear who'skind of like a bigger guy, you knowYeah, it's like then you have some youhave some built guys some skinny guys,you know, there's a variation thereMm-hmm. Yeah, whatthe heck is Braun is he?What's it called thoughthe Forge guy who'd oh?You talking about or or or yeah, one's afreaking God. Okay. Yeah, so he's justhis own thing, right?Yeah, I mean there there are Freljordiangods, but we're definitelynot gonna play is yeah. No, noHe's he just always especiallySuspiciously looked like a dwarf to me.Yeah, and that got me a little excited.There are dwarves in RuneterraI don't think there areno love me some dwarvesDude because like there aren't even Ieven think there are like League ofLegends heroes that are dwarves, right?Like the closest thing we have is isOrnn. Yeah, I don't think there aredwarves in RuneterraThere aren't too many different kinds.There are no dwarves or elves here. No.Yeah that they avoid mimicking other RPGsYeah, I'm just like a veryTraditional fantasy dude and that's justme like I love my orcs and elves but alsoa riot does want to move away from thatSo I'm not expecting anything like thatfor character creation.Those races are just not existentSo this is definitelynot gonna be your averageYour average character creation for yourMMO. That's for sureSo how do you feel about when you'recreating your human? Let's say that youare creating a human how much?Variation should be able to do with yourhuman. Yeah, so like I mean for asingle-player RPG, right?I say go crazy, you know make yourcharacter with a nose that extends fourfeet out make them stinkin greenYou know just do whateverthe heck you want with themBut for an MMOOther people are gonna be seeing yourcharacter in the world of RuneterraAlright, if your character is like sowide that the texture stretches outunbelievably so their belly button goeslike three feet wideYeah, I'm not gonna like that personallythat would kind of break the game for me.Yeah, so for an MMO specificallyI think there needs to be some standardsneeds be some limits on whatyou can do with your characterSo do you like the way?How does Final Fantasy doesn't have?How am I see does have sliders they dohave sliders yeah, andtheir sliders are great actuallyI think that's a very good example youbring up because I thinkthere's a really many noWell, the Warcraft is all just you know,you choose your hairstyle hair colorYour face is all one option. You don'thave the you don't chooselike eyes or nose or mouthYou can choose face which I honestlythought they would have changed that bynow for how much they messaround with character creationI thought for sure they would make face,you know be multiple different thingsI think an engine issue it might be itmight just be it'slike hard-coded in yeahthat's just how it works and Wow, butyeah, if I see doesdo sliders were like myMy obviously I'm gonnaplay Yordle. I play aAlala fell which are just tiny peopleFinal Fantasy. Yep. Myguy has long ears. All rightI put that slider flipped it all the wayto the right. Oh, so you could actuallyyou can literally find youYeah, I chose the length of his ears andI said they're gonna belong maybe big boys big earsSo something like that I think is greatIt's also not like like the reason why Icould put that slider always the right isbecause it's not that unrealistic stillBut I don't know has normallooking ears. They're just longEverything's a slider. Not I don't thinkeverything's a sliderI don't live on my z14 now how I'm in itby I was like did notmake a character until like2019 I think was when I made my characterand you don't have ever need to go backand make a new character about myC14 your one character does everythingBut I don't remember there ever being anyInsane sliders like like there's not likea slider for every single thing like youdo still just havelike certain options forYou know stuff like hair obviously andfor like eye shape and things like thatThose are just buttons that you'reclicking through. Mm-hmmSo what do you so you think the cupbecause you I don't think not everythingin Final Fantasy is theSelection. Yeah, but everything inBlizzard and World ofWarcraft is the selectionSo you think that the combination is thebest because you shouldn't haveeverything as a slider.Yeah, things should be a sliderI yep, that's exactly how I feelActually, it's mostly just because it'san MMO and the fact that you're not theonly one that's seeing your character nowAnd this world for anMMO has to be immersiveI want to feel like I'm actually inruntera when I'm in DemaciaI want to actually see some normallooking characters.Yeah, that would fit inYou know, I think that's very importantSo I don't want to sayanything too crazy with the slidersBut I do still want to see slidersbecause there still needs to be somevariation between your charactersYou know, I thinkespecially with yordles, right?There's gonna be crazy variety with youbetter be crazy varietywith your tools, you knowWe better not all look like poppy becausenot every yordle looks like poppy backMost yordles look like just some weirdFox people that are completely derangedYordles have a wide like very wide verywide in terms of how they how they lookYeah, and I hope that you can like youhave Gennar in the in the Froll you wouldwho literally has tusksYeah, well, you know like that's justdude yordles make nosense to me and I love itSo you would think that you can chooseyour tusk then you can scroll wheel tohow big your tusks areYeah, yeah, exactly the tusks should notbe so big that theygo past your head. YeahThere's a limit but you can definitelychoose and that slider should still bewide enough to make a differenceOkay, you know, it shouldn't be likeinsignificant eitherThere's a sweet spot. There's a goldengolden. What's it called? Goldilocks zonefor that? Yeah, and speaking of GennarThere's one class that I just want totouch on really quick thatI think would be very coolOh, okay. So Gennar when he goes when hegoes like he goes offHe just like he turns into this giantmonster, right? Yeah, he's a what's thecall? He's uh that thatWarner Brothers with aGremlin thing. Yeah, he'syeah. Yeah, he's awesomeSo I would love to see a yordle tankclass that hassomething to do with like thatWhere you turn into this little beast?Yeah, you thought actually be sickYeah, like you're tanking most of thetime you're just like this little guyBut then like you can you have likeabilities that turnyou into a yeah you burstGet like huge and you just start doingstuff. I don't knowthat sounds like an awesomeOr at all tanking class to me. Oh my god.I would I would highly consider playingthat and that'd be coolThat'd be very cool. Yeah. Yeah, that'syeah, that's definitely a thingI would love for character creation whenyou're making your race,but you're picking your raceYou should have some like class specific,you know, the things that you couldchoose from like onlyyour dolls can be thatYou know only if a stya can be a certainclass only humans can be a certain classYeah, that would definitely be a yordlespecific class only. Yeah, exactly. AndI'm totally cool with that personallyI don't like the idea of like everyonebeing everything because you inevitablyrun in somesituations where it's like yeahThis makes no sense, but I even more verylike okay. So ifyou're a yordle, I want itI want to see a yordle where like yourTristana. She's a gunner, right? Mm-hmmSo she's kind of like the hunter and yeahsense for the yordles.Yeah, like this gun and stuffbut then you know if you're fromDemacia, you know, I'd want to see ahunter with like a bow. YeahBecause they have they havemore of that aesthetic. YeahI want to see like that kind of variationalmost where the even the hunter class isdifferent wherever you areAnd not just wherever you are the racethat you are. Yeah,I'm so with you on thatI was I mean, yeah, I thinklike at some point, you knowLike your your Vistai isgonna like pick up a gun, you knowLike like like if they're a hunter you'regonna run to an item.That's an upgrade. No, it's a gunLike I'm also on the fence on I feel likeyou should just cuz I'dbe frustrating. OtherwiseYou know, yeah, but yeahI meanBut maybe they could get putsome flavor in it, you knowLike in terms of like how your Vistaiholds the gun. Yeah to make it a littlemore flavorful and be like, okayThis makes sense. YeahYou're like a yordle gunner. Yeah, rightversus a pilt over gunner. Mm-hmmBoth are using guns, but it's justdifferent in the waythat they use the gunYeah, I agree and they havean ability that's differentLike if you're a yordle gunnerLike they pull out a huge gun on theirback and they just shoot itthat's in twice their sizeYeah, the pilt over gunner and they'lllike pull out two pistols orsomething. I don't know. YeahFlavor yeah, yeah justsome flavor dude, that's soImportant seriously, it's crazy. I watchthat even people whodon't think it mattersIt matters and they don't realize it atleast I think so. That's just my opinionI think everyone secretly cares, youknow, everyone RP is a little bit deepdown inside. Everyone doesYeah, you don't play MMO unless youyou're at least a 1% RPRYeah, you're not RPingyou RP. Yeah, exactlyLike like in Wow of my goblin if I if Imake a goblin hunter, Idon't want to holding a bowAll right, you guys don't hold a gun.He's gonna shoot the gunMy yordle if I make a yordle hunter,dude's gonna hold a gunMy heads all over theplace cuz now I'm like, okayWhat about transmog like this guy wantsto be a goblin hunter or whatever in thiscase a yordle gunnerThey want us to be using a gun, but thenhe gets a really good bowYeah, that's the thing. I'm like I thinkin that case just tobite the bullet, right?Ha ha I mean to do thatBut likeIt's just like like at some point theimmersion reaches a waywhere becomes like inconvenientYou know, I mean and I want to where'sthat threshold where like,where do you draw the line?You know, that's the main question oflike I think in that case.I would just be like us hereI'm just gonna pick up the the bow fornow or even if it's like, oh, it's justlike a small upgradeI'm sticking with the gun. YeahBut if it's like a big upgrade and Ican't use it because I'm a yordle andlike nobody else in the group can useIt's nobody else as ahunter or something like thatI guess it would be like loose Pacificright where like the bowwould just not drop at allIf there's only one gunner inthe in the what's it called?There's only one hunter and it's a yordlethe bow just won'tdrop in that case for lootI like that. But then also I like thatwhere it's like, okayYou're a girdle gunner. And so when itdrops for you, it's a gunVersus when else to bow but it's the samestats and the same. Oh, I don't eventhink of that. But okayYeah, yeah, I like that but then I wasthinking about this. Mm-hmm. Okay, man.This just kind of just jumped out at meWell, okay, so we're always againsttransmog, right? YeahBecause it the main reason we're againsttransmog is because it causes everyone tobe able to just look amazingRegardless of what they accomplishedcompletely devalues gear in my eyes likea whole facet of gearis the look of it, right?Yeah, you completelytake away that part of gearIt was a value like actual value and youwalk into a city you want to know who'swho's a beast and who isn't likeWho's yeah, who's just who's on frickinmythic rating? This is who'sJust yeah, who's like a fresh cap. Yeah,yeah, then you can't know. No, you can'ttell when there's transmogIt's sad now until you inspect them whichat that point it just feels like okayI'm looking at your video game stats andnot how cool you areBut what if we're thinking about it thewrong way like we're thinking aboutTransmog as your gear and transmog inyour weapons. Yeah, what if that'sallowed but there'sanother way to signifyEasily visible likeeveryone can see it right awayIt's obvious that you are doing this oryou have done this in the current likeseason and it'ssomething that continues forwardLike what like it has it can't be playerhousing where it's just like okay nowthey have this item in their houseI know one else has yeah, something likein that you could seeon their chair glanceYeah, yeah on their care you can justtell without yeah without even knowingwhat like like without evenknowing much about the gameLike like you don'teven have to know. Oh, okayThis guy's a really good because he hasso-and-so from thisraid this boss this tierNo, you just look at him be like damnthat guy looks cool. He must be reallygood at the game. YeahIt should be that simple. Yeah, like Idon't it doesn't have to bethe full gear or the full weaponThey could just be like a necklace maybeI don't knowsomething something that showsThat they are maybe you can transmogeverything but you can't transmog yourweapon or not by theCI bats of kind of anyAsh is going to like clash awayReally glowing green weapon if with thatglowing green weapon whenyou want to like a red transmogI'm gonna think we're gonna think aboutthis all week and I'm gonna come backnext week. I'm gonnacome up with a solution forIt's something I also I understandYou know the argument for a transmogobviously the number one thing fortransmog is personalization, right?It's making your character look the wayyou want them to look.Yeah, I think in the dayI do want my yordle to you know, looklike he's from he's from Bandle CityYeah, you know, I want my dude to becovered in some like really cool likegreen, you know, likeGlowy magical nature earmor. Yeah, I think that's sickBut the end of the day I care more aboutThe value of just interacting withplayers and seeing just seeing theirvalue just by looking at themYeah, that matters more to me personally.It's tough. It's a toughsituation with transmogI feel like there's ups and downs. Ithink there will be too. So I'm trying tofind a solution thatSolves the problem with in a differentway than what we've been trying. We'vebeen solving it which is like no, yeahWe are pretty extreme I think everysingle take we have is usually prettyblack and white on where we standYou knowWe talked about how much variety ortalshave and we didn't even think about thisstyle which probablyhave even more varietyWhich are like literally they might aswell be completelydifferent races on their ownBut I would rather them just be one raceand then you customizethem how you want. Yeah, rightlike I think it's gonna beFor Vastaya, I think you're gonna haveone race. It'll be like arig. That's the Vastaya rigYes, and you can choose like which branchof the Vastayan tree you're fromYeah based on that branch you're gonnaget locked into certain featureslike you can't have alizard tail with a fox ears withLion arm fur. Yeah, that'll be a problem.Yeah, I think everyone woulddo that just to really stand outYeah, exactly just to look goofy. I thinkthat'd be a verycommon thing to see. YeahI hope that does not happen. I think it'sgonna be like there'sthis there's this treeWhich shows the Vastayan heritage truewhich is the Vastaya Shirei they mergewith the humans and youhave all these branchesI hope it's like you click the Vastayaand now select yourbranch that you're a group ofThe one that's you know a decentpopulation and you can't be like Arisince she's the last one of her kindYeah, I agree with that man. You can pickone of these branches and based on thatbranch you're locked into certainFeet like certain character features andyou can select from those you have theslide wheels and stuffBut those you'll be limited in that senseof like you're a partof this this group. YeahYeah, I'm into that found my se14 kindadoes that not nearly as like crazies of astyle should be I think but you doLike pick like what tribe you're fromessentially. Yeah, like what peopleyou're part of withinyour race and from thatThey'll give you like different like skincolor options. Yeah, exactlyYeah, my magic massage would be evencrazier, you know, like hey, you're partof the lizard peopleYou got lizard options.Okay, but you're a lizard. YeahYeahExactly. I don't know ifyordles need that level of aCraziness with like they're like, yeah,cuz I think it's more so just like heyDo you want like to be really crazy brownfur or do you want to be purple? Yeah,you know, like that'sthose are your optionsLike if you look at Bandle City, they'rethey're different yordles definitely aredifferent. They'remore different than humansYeah for sure, but they're not asdifferent. They're notas varied as the styleNo, the style are especially like I I wasshocked when you told methat they are all one raceYeah, like they all fit under the thename of the style. Yeah. Are you surelike that's the style?Yeah, and that the Lions Messiah. Yep,that's not even a personthat but I do just a lion. YepSo, I think yeah the cycle's cliniciansdefinitely be the mostIntricate I expect that one to be the onethey spend the most time on and I thinkeveryone will make of a styleJust for fun. Yeah, you know that thatshould be the goal of astyle character creationSpecifically is that everyone should wantto at least try making a Vastaya for fun.I'm really torn likeI want to be a VastayaPretty badly, but then at the same time Iwant to be a shamanlike Udeir in the FroyardYeah, and there's no Vastayan at leastI've never seen a Vastayan shaman fromthe Froyard like they're all humansMmm, I was whether are more shaman otherthan just Udeir cuz I always thought itwas just Udeir likethis guy was just reallyIntune. Oh, no, there's a lot of news.He's just like they he'sthe shaman. He's the kingHe's yeah, but there's no there's a wholetribes of them. Okay, coolOkay, so that makes a lot more likefeasible to have a character. That's ashaman in the Froyard. That's so coolYeah, but yeah, so yeah in that case.Yeah, I would expect you to be like,yeah, you gotta be a human in that caseYeah, so it wasn't just like completelybreak it like oh, yeah, this I can beshamans now. They're hereI guess they're in the Froyard. VastayaVastayan druid from IoniaYeah, that that could be pretty cool. Seeit's tough. It's not likeArthur the shamans in IoniaThey're not the same. Yeah. Oh, they'renot but there are like there's some likevariation I guess hmmI mean, yeah, they are likereally into the spirits, right?So you can still just do some likespiritual stuff in Ionia. Yeah, but likeFroyard is that that likeNature of you know, like it looks likethe lion and the lightning tiger,whatever. I don'tknow. Yeah, it feels moreTribal. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I like Ithink with humans humans can look coolWe have to try a lot harder to make themlook cool. You know, like oohdear looks freaking sick. YeahAll right, it makes me a little dear. Myboy. Yeah. Yeah, exactlyBut like you gotta you gotta get theright build you gottaget the awesome tattooYou gotta get the belly shirtless. Yeah,and you got to get the right guy. I sayyou gotta get the right transmog. YeahILike that's a problem then my guy wouldnever wear a skirt. Yeah, exactlyLike yeah, so oodle is freaking awesomehumans can look awesomeBut by default they don't look nearly ascool as your olds or Vastaya and I reallywant to make a VastayaYeah, I just don't know if I'll be ableto I don't think it would make aFroyardian shaman VastayaYeah, wait, what kind ofa style would you make?If I made a Vastaya,I'd be man that's toughI wouldn't know either I'd have to likereally look at all of them. I thinknaturally I lean towardslike any kind of reptileYeah, they're like maybefrom Ishtel mostly. YeahIt's tough stuff stuff. I have to I haveto look at the options and then I decidelike who looks the mostChompany. Yeah, the nayshree I guess.Yeah, yeah, I got like a humble lookingVastaya. Mm-hmm.That's important. I agreeLet's pull up the vestine tree. Allright. Yeah, I want to see all of themI'm really I want to make this decisionright now. So in the MMO dropsI'm ready to make my first alt which willbe a Vastaya like do Iwouldn't want to make likeSo there's the hold on. That's that's theVastaya. There's the tree. Hold on. Letme find the tree. There we go. Okay coolOkay, this is the tree.Mm-hmm. Now, there's theWhat an our auto not a tranny which Ithink maybe the otter lady fromRuined if you ever read ruination, sothey can otter VastayaI wonder if that's dumb but actuallythose from the land walking tribe. She'sbe the tribes of the seaThey I don't I'm not100% sure who's who right?There's so many different names here likethe Mariah are definitely that's Nami andthe Mariah territory off the car gauntsThey're like mermaid people. Oh, yes,you're probably plays them like beforeprobably not. No, there's AriOh, yeah, she's just like there by ourbranch. Yeah, because she's the last one.She's the only one of her kindYeah, then when this tree was made theydidn't even know anythingabout her. I'm sure that's crazyYeah, there's the reptilian the strigChiraShimon, I don't know. See I'm not surelike I have to seehow they look if I yeahI agree look is everything honestly likelike what I want to bethis heft goat thing. YeahI know this is more likeThomas. Mr. Thomas. YeahILike this guy, I'm pretty cool. Yeahlizard people are coolI like I really like the fact that theycommit with with thestyle like as the riot artistsI'm so glad they commit to making themstraight up animal people. Yeah. Yeah,you know, it's not just like ohIt's like a really handsomeLizard guy. Yeah. No, that's a Liz.That's a freaking dragon right there.It's more animal more animal than humanI'm more human than animal but a lot ofthem are more animal than human. YeahI really hope that they go that far inthe MMO. I really reallyhope so cuz I love it so muchGosh dang it. I want my dude to look likea stinking lizard on two legs. Yeah, likethis is goat lady from TargonYeah, or she looks more human. Yeah, justkind of has horns and his purple. Yeahversus this person thatliterally got deer legsYeah, she has deer. She has goat legssoon the cinematic. OhAll right, good to know and that there'sa pig looking dude right there that'sinteresting it's a big big guyYeah, that's gonna be the least plate forstyle. I'm gonna be honestYes, I'm not sure I'd have to see I thinkI'd have to see charactercreation before I decide manWhat if they didn't add the style? Whatif they just had you could be a human?Oh my god, I didn't even point bitterthat by the same timeIt's it's a there's a non zero chance ofthat happening, which is very scaryYeah, like they could actually say likeyou can't be a yordle.You can't be a best I a yeahYou're not even like a race. So I waswhere you're from yours.Yeah, customize your humanI mean, they wouldn't be the first I'mgonna do that by far actually which ispretty sad. Oh my godNo, that would actually be such a hugedisappointment for me because I'vealready anticipated somuch you can play as a yordleLike it feels guaranteed in my heart thatyou can play as a yordleYou're not the only one and I thinkthere's such a desire to play yordlesthat they're going toinclude your turtlesBecause I think that would be like aTwitter breakout if that happens likelike in terms of riot fansThere would be a massive likewhy can't I play as a yordle?Yeah, and there's so many people who arelike the Fox people like setthey want to be like a fox. YeahThere's gonna be cat girls. Yeah, sothat's why I thinkthey'll add Vastaya tooJust because there's demand out there forthem. So I don't think wehave to worry too much about itBut it's definitely not guaranteed thatthey want to do it. But I Ithink it's more towards. YeahJust for the sake of I think everyone'skind of expecting it, right?Like yeah, we can even go farther though.So so we're talking about these racesWe're saying that they're gonna hope theymay just make it human.Yeah. All right for sureBut they also I'm leaning more towardsthey're gonna include VastayaI think it's more likely that we're gonnasee Visay on yordles. You're gonna be ayordle for sure. I feel that yeahBut there's other races that people don'treally talk about thatI if you could be this race, I wouldheavily gravitatetowards it and that's MinotaurYeah, honestly, I agree. I would at thevery least make a Minotaur for sureOne of my characters would be a Minotaur.Yeah, I think that I hope one thing Ilove about World of Warcraft raceswhen you're making yourcharacter is that when you make aTroll, right you're not just a troll likenot not all of the trolls arePart of the horde and therefore playable.Yeah, especially before the most like oneof the most recent expansionsYou can only make a dark spear troll.You're a member of thedark spear tribe. Yeah rolesYeah, right if you're an orc, there arestill plenty of orcsthat are not on your sideYeah, right. You're specifically part ofthe new horde that was created recently.Yeah, I would like thatYeah, all rightSo I feel like it makes sense there'sgonna be other tribes of MinotaurBut you're part of a tribe of minotaurwithin Noxus. Yeah thatfollow Noxus. That'd be coolI like that a lot moreYeahrather than just being like D and you area member of the entirerace of every single yordle isProudly a part of either Noxus orDemacia. No, it's probably not the caseBut you are a specific yordle who followsother yordles being in Noxus or DemaciaYeah, I think if they everdid that that tribe aspectThey'd be in Noxus where you'd have to beable to make a minotaur from NoxusYeah, and a part of that tribe. I hopeso. Once you showed me minotaur, I waslike, oh my god, please dude, pleaseGod, we need some like big really massivebulky race. Yeah, I played a taurenEver since I played Worldof Warcraft, I played taurenYeah, and so that's honestly why I like Ilook at the minotaur'sfamiliar model to me. YeahIf it's not on my monitor just byprecise, it'll just feel right. OhYeah, if you could I mean they clearlyseem like just by looking at pictures ofthem they seem likethey're like intelligent enoughYeah, like shaman and stuff like that.Yeah into like follow, you know,obviously I follow Noxusand things like that. Oh godPlease dude, I would love it so much andthey have some likevariation to them or yeahThey can be multiple classes andeverything like they're set up, you knowriot has them set upThey're sitting prettyjust waiting to be playableOkay, I think that's the most out of thethree races that we pickedhe said humans Vistaya YordlesI feel like minotaur is the next mostlikely candidate to be included if youmade a fourth race, it would be minotaurYeah, I agree. But also sadlymy likelogical cynical brainthinks oh these guys are gonna be likethe centaur and World of Warcraft or thecentaur also a people where they havemultiple different tribes veryDynamic very interesting race, butthey're mostly just delegated tocharacters that you kill early on right?Yeah, there's a tribeNot far from thecapital city of the HordeAll right, and you just go fight thattribe because they're causing problemsactually in the new one dragonflight nowOh are they yeah, they havea whole area. Oh, that's coolYeah, see like sense are very interestingand they have like their own charactersand plot and all that stuffBut the end of the day, there's kind ofdelegated to like oh, this is a race thatyou can fight sometimesYeah, and I'm worried my most logicalrain says that's whatthe minutes are gonna beIs that they're gonna be like somewhereoutside of like noxious and you justfight them. There's astare they cause problemsYeah, I hope that's not the case sobadly, but it seems solikely but it'd be such a wasteI think there's a lot of minotaur andnoxious like I'm looking atthe legends of runeterra cardsSo these are guys there's a ton of themand they're all I mean,they're all from noxiousIt looks like so I really think that ifyou if they did do itThey could easily make a tribe ofminotaur from noxious that are playableGod I hope so. I mean one common thingwith most MMOs where if youhave multiple playable racesYou're gonna see moreplayable races in the futureYeah, so I could see minotaur being thatcoming in later. Yeah, it's like anexpansion new race minotaurI could see that happeningMan, but I just really hope they'replayable right off the batI hope you can just make a minotaurbecause they deserve it. Just look attheir designs are too goodI'm sorry. The Orion artists did too wellThey're too good of a job and they madethem cool. Yep. I so we're at right now.We say humans VistayaYordles possible minotaur andwe want a character creationThere's mostly pre selection, but there'salso a couple things that are like thewheel or the not like gliders a sliderThere's actually one more race that I donot think will be included in this waslike a sub like thereI have seenImages where they'resmaller, but yeah trollsWell, you're a priority in trolls liketrundle, but these guys are hugeLike there's a schematic where their eyesliterally faces one. These guys aremassive like it'd be likebeing able to play an ogreYeah, yeah the size of like Cho'ballwho's huge. Yeah, they'realmost way too big to be playableYeah, unless you has likea smaller tribe somewhereHmm which could be possible. I'm not I'mnot I wouldn't be against itYeah, if they like change it up and it'sbe like, oh, yeah, therecan be like human sized trollsThere's like this tribe deep in theFreljord. Yeah, like I could see thathappening. Honestly,I'd be cool with thatIt's it's still not like change. It's notchanging anything. It's just adding moreto trolls. Mm-hmm sayinghere's a tribe of trollsWe have not met yet. Yeah, I'd be coolwith that. Honestly, theyjust love the big guys out thereBut then there's also like the smallerones that are playable. Yeah, and I woulddefinitely be my second characterHonestly, I saw like aside from my yordlemaine my second character would be atroll. They look so coolYeah, dude, they got thethey got the cool hairstylesLike no, I would not have like the bestbeard options and hairoptions for trolls, right?With all like the white hair and theorange hair. Oh, man,dude, the big tusks. Heck. YesSlider for the tusks slider for thetusks. That's that's the truth of it. OhMan, you know surprisingly though as muchas they're saying that they wanted, youknow, there's no orcsThere's no elves because they want tostay away from just I think trolls arepretty traditional trolls are definitelyYeah, minotaur two are pretty traditionallike high fantasy. I mean,yeah, all the way back toTo the the Hobbit, right? Mm-hmm trollsare some like basic Tolkien loreYeah, so like that's about astraditional fantasy as it getsYeah, and same with minotaur. I'm in atime more like mythology, but also yeahI guess what Tolkien came from in thefirst place right mythologyis also pretty traditionalFantasy stuff comes from in the firstplace is in Greek mythologyMinotaur I'm honestly not sure for Idon't want to get that wrong. YeahThe gas Greek or Nordic I have no cluebut yeah trolls minotaur both pretty uhLike you you'd expect to find them inyour average fantasy world for sureYeah, I hope they're not looking at themand being like oh no not not in our gameBut gosh, I also just think I think thereason why we both love minotaur andtroll so much just becausethey lean more towards thatgruffTribal side and we don't have that withthe main three races themain races are very civilizedThat's why I like woodhere. Yeah tribal. Yeah, dudeLike we love we love our did big gruffydudes that just you know are like part ofthe world living off the landYeah, yeah, like I love thatWhich is why we need we need some somebig big dudes that you canjust you know be all muscle andMess stuff up with their massive weapons.Yeah, I've never been drawn to likeMagic too much to my husband like warriorMartial weapons yeah, and I like themagic when it's more elemental or likeyeah or something and not like youArcane yeah, no. Yeah, I want to shootsome like the balls of like earthYou know I want to use water to healpeople yeah shamanism is so cool to meYeah, cuz shamanism is just the rightkind of magic. It's like some kind oflike physical magic. Yeah,which I like it's not likeBarkley yeah, you're not creating usingthe elements around you to do stuff.Yeah, dude. Yeah massive differenceI think shamans are pretty solid chanceof getting in just for that reasonIt's a kind of flavor that you're notgonna get from any other class or fromany other like a fastset of power and runeterraRight yeah shamans arevery on their own very uniqueSo I think it's super likely we'll getshamans as a class atleast that's just meBut dude we need some more gruff in termsof playable races. That's why I'm hopingfor minotaur or trollsI think minotaur are a lot more likelyBecause I think trolls will end up justbeing you know some big dudes that youfight in the Freljord yeahAnd I honestly don't think Freljord willbe included at launchjust because yeah much thereIf they don't include the whole map likethey may they might justdo like a small part of itJust be like here's a snowy area. Yeah,like this is part of the Freljord. Idefinitely think that's possibleBut I if they don't ifthey actually exclude zonesI feel like Freljord would be one of thezones that they exclude for an expansionAnd then so you won't really see trollscuz I don't I've never seen them anywhereelse other than FreljordYeah, I can see that I mean hey Warcraft3 right they Northrend was a prettyimportant part of Warcraft 3You literally go to Northrend it'sbrought up by name by the Chondrias. Wedon't see it. Literally go thereYeah, you don't see it till the secondexpansion not even the first expansionThe second expansion of World of Warcraftdo we go to a very importantlocation in the original RTS? IMean Freljord I think is also just a veryimportant location hasbrought up so many timesThat I hope it doesn't come off asdisappointing to people if they don't seethe Freljord right awayI think it's worth it save it for anexpansion. So then there'sgonna be so much more thereThey're gonna do it justiceif it's an expansion. Yeah, IWould actually like to see it. I wouldlike to see them do lessYeah, me too to give them the time toreally flesh out all these locations eachon their own individuallyYeah, rather than just giving us like ayou know half big version of all theseplaces just to get them all in at launchRight like for exampleLet's say that time is finite and youcan't you can you cannot do everythingand if you commit timeto something you'll loseTime for something else if you had to doNoxus and Freljord, I'd rather see Noxusdouble the size me tooSeriously, it's good at least at leastthey're doing Noxus justiceYeah, Freljord gets saved tobe done justice another dayThen the world will be bigger when thetime comes like when the world iscomplete when youhave that like they saidWe have this end goal howwe want to see RuneterraYeah, and we know it's just the steps toget there along the way. Mm-hmm. I'drather see more stepsSorry, the world is more fleshed outRather than trying to like hop skip asmuch as we can and then making everythinga little bit smallerYeah, ICompletely agree Runeterrais way too cool of a worldThey've already spent years fleshing thisthing out in terms ofstorytelling and world-buildingto whereEvery single zone at thispoint can be done with its ownEntire dev team dedicated to just puttingsome TLC into that entire zone, you knowThere's just there's so much here dudeand making Freljord an expansion meanstrolls might be a playable race after allPretty coolYeah, if like when the Freljord drops weget trolls like as atribe somewhere out thereOh, I would love that please do pleasejust give me more gruffy racesThat's what I want more than anything.Noxus is very I think you I mean Noxus isvery gruffy in general, right?Noxus like literally like the main whenyou think of Noxus the first dude youthink of has spikyshoulder pads and greatAnd he's massive. I don't even know ifhe's considered a humanfor how big that guy is. YeahNoxus luckily has its own gruff to whereif you're from NoxusYeah, you're already like, you know,they're pretty used to just living in aworld of the turmoil and killing. Yeah, II do think there's 100 we're guaranteed.We're gonna get Noxus in DemaciaThat's why I feel like Minotaur a littlebit more likely because you can't includeNoxus or Demacia cannot be an expansionwithout both of them being an expansionfor the same because they're soInterweaved into each other and theirstories a lot of themare based on each otherSo it's like I feel like if you includeone and not the other it would beNot as great. So you have to include bothI'd say the least you'd get is NoxusDemacia tilt over in a little bit of zoneThat's the least you'll get at the launchYeah with a little bit more you caninclude Shurima and Bilge waterYeah, that's like the maximum that Ithink you can get with and everythingelse being an expansionYeah, that's what I hope is the case andin that case like Idon't know how likely is itThey'll skip over ish tall like that ifyou're going to like from Piltover to oh,but you're also like always like you saidThere are like a ship paths rum likeNoxus. Yeah, any month. No, it's likeliterally controlsthis whole top of ShurimaIt's like literally Noxus owned. YeahPilt over and when you're crossingthrough Piltover, you don'tactually go in through ish tallThis is like a whole jungle that no oneever goes into built over constantlysends machines in thereand they get destroyedOh cool. Yeah, it's like a hidden junglethat no one can enter but yeah, I'vealready like set up outYeah, we can't go there right away. Yeah,it's in the lowercannon. No one goes to ish tallIt's a hit place hidden in the jungleNoxus sends people there to dieWow, that's like a bit basically likelike like was it Demacia sends people tolike Targon right if like they screw upLike yeah, go die dude climb up the topof the mountain you can do it. YeahDemacia sends people that are gone to sayclimb the top of the mountain Noxus haswanted ish tall for a long timeReally? Yeah, that can make for someinteresting stuff. Do I know how Noxus isso like yeah, that's rightWe dominate like we're gonna take youover if we're strong enoughYeah, I would love to be a part of thatjust because it's like yeah, we're goingto ish tall for this expansionBut not for good reasons. Yeah, we arethe problem. We're not going there to fixtheir problem. That would be interestingWe're the problem.Yeah, that would be veryAnd somehow, you know, obviously Demaciawould get ripped into that tooCuz they would not want Noxus taking upthat much land thatmuch power for themselvesYeah, so I can see that being reallycool. Demacia. It'slike exile you're exiledNo one actually goesto climb Mount TargonYeah, but that's your sentence like to goclimb Mount Targon, but then they just belike we out like no oneactually goes and does itYeah, Tariq was just a beastYeah, dude, but NoxusSo what Noxus does is let's say thatyou're a person climbing the ranks inNoxus and you'rebecoming more self-centeredLike you're more about yourself. Mm-hmm.Then the knock thenNoxus. Yeah, you are Noxy. YeahThinking of yourself like prideful sayinglike I did this and I did that and Ishould be rewarded moreNoxus does not take that crap lightlylike you are either for Noxus a hundredpercent givingyourself fully for the EmpireOr they don't want you it's that muchAnd so if you're a person to climb theranks and like saying I'm this personwho's done great thingsThey'll tell you okay go conquer Ishtel.Yeah, and they're so prideful. Usuallythey'll be like, oh, yeahYou know, I'm going to conquer Ishtel.Never been conqueredbefore then you get there andIshtel will literally eat you alive andthat's why they stayalmost send them thereJust like as like maybe a workoutprobably not but most likely you're justgonna go there and dieBut we want Ishtel to know like we'restill looking at them and we're comingfor you. Oh my god, dudeYeah, that's great. Yeah. Yeah, we stillsee you. We'll send people there to die,but just know we're thinking of you. YeahYou know that uh, what's it called? UmDrake and Josh that one week. Oh reallyso go conquer Ishtel. Yeah, I willThat's literally aproblem. That's literally itYeah, I have a short story video on itlike one of the first short stories thatI ever did is a short story about aWoman in Noxus who starts gettingprideful and they send her on a missionto go conquer Ishtel andshe goes there and then sheRealizes that they sent her there to die.Oh, she shows up onlike the shores and I thinkPilt over or somewhere bilge water.Mm-hmm. I'm not gonna spoil itJust if you want to read that shortstory, I have a videoon it, but it's very goodYeah, that's how you learn like the Noxusjust sends people to Ishtel to die. OhOkay, so yeah if chances are we're notgetting Ishtel to start no that'd bewe're not gonna reach IshtelYou will go die. Yeah, I hope they makeit like that too. I hope you can actuallygo into the jungle and just dieNo, I I like to see natural organic waysof making the map where you can't exploreCould be saunts onshould not be not includedbut if you journey too deep into zon youstart like getting into theSudge of zon the smoke and the fog andit's yeah, Nes or warwick literally findsyou and kills you if you go too deepYeah, cuz like yeah, cuz like you're notpart of zon. You don'tknow your way through zonYeah, you would not last 10 seconds inzon because you were not raised in itYeah, you don't know Jack about it. TheFreljord is too cold. You die of the coldYeah, like it's just too cold and you dieYeah, give a creative ways of dyingcreative ways to die likeIonia can easily be blocked up by theocean same with yeah, what I'd like tosee that uses a hubalmost the shadow islesYeah, I was like you'renot you're not gonna shadowYeah, it's does thejungle you'll get eaten aliveYeah, theaNoWe can think of a lot always dying ofKathy a Targon could easily be separatedoff by a mountain rangeYeah, oh, yeah easily. I got already isstraight up like blocked offin terms of mountains. Mm-hmmOh, yeah, I mean, yeah bilge water islonger as much you can really uhDo there right cuz I it's definitely notlike expansion worthy and I don't thinkthey should just drop it in a patchAnd be like, oh, yeah, unless it's likelike like like like vanillaUm, vanilla runter MMO. Yeah, like beforethe first expansion for like a big patchThey drop bilge water I'd be cool withthat cuz I think there is some stuff youcan do with those waters like boy stuffThe book I will see I don't want to seeanything of the book room bilge waterBill water should be includedBut you're only in bilge water the bookon the other side of bilge water shouldbe secluded and youknow one access is theBook of area by the way, anyway, ohreally like it's lockedoff. They don't allow outsidersThey only allow outsiders on the areawhere bilge water like the city is that'swhere the outsiders areOh, but the Buddha have been thereforever. So I'd love to see likeThe boohoo power weakening or somethingand we start having more sea monsterattacks and bilge water and that leads tothe boohoo expansionJust because it's included doesn't meanwe're not gonna get anexpansion for it like DemaciaOkayYou have DemaciaBut I'd love to seewhere we have a DemaciaExpansion where we explore the sentinelsof light off the coast of Demacia moreand that's a whole expansionYeah, and yeah throughout that expansionyou build up more on the mossy on themossy progresses more like in terms ofcharacters and the worldYou know, maybe like how they treat mageschanges and that kind of stuff. Yeah, theentire city progressesalong with the expansionYeah, I think that can be insanely coolJust because you have the Freljorddoesn't mean you're not gonna have anexpansion in the Freljordeven after if you have a FreljordAn expansion I don't think you can do itjustice in one expansionMaybe you do like one expansion of theFreljord and another expansion whereyou're going to do the watchersYeah, I was thinking yeah like a voidexpansion will be Freljordand like a Cathia, right?And maybe even some like that would beawesome the whole world.Yeah, right a whole plan dudeThat's what I hope for I thought I wasexpansions are interms of the map is thatIt's it's a progression of the entireworld the expansion takes place inRuneterra not just one zoneYeah, one zone may be the focusBut the entire question should not be inthat zone. Yeah, I'm saying it shouldn'tbe the only thing of that expansionThat's a problem. That's a big problem. Ihave a lot of them thoseYeah, and then we have them obviously wedo have areas that we we cameand see on the map currentlyThere's that whole area north of Freljordthe true north. Oh, yeahwatched Game of Thrones, you knowThere's like the north then there's thetrue north past over the wallYeah, I almost feel like that's what thatis and that's unexploredYeah, I have camivore like we have weonly need to see thaton the map right nowThere's a whole that the map can't evencome be the complete globeYeah, so there's a lot of things that wedidn't explore but there'sstill so much to explore hereI almost feel like why rush it. Yeah,seriously. Yeah, let's take our sweettime and let's enjoy allWhat Runeterra has to offer in terms ofeven just this map. Yeah, I don't want torush through this mapI don't want to be like, okay, this isthe moon to your expansion. Here's thewhole map and then yeah,okay now we're moving onYeah, okay. We did it. That's one of themain problems with the world of Warcraftis like you made Azerothwhich is easily the biggest andLike you have Kalimdor and the Easternkingdoms like thoseare the biggest who aloneYeah, we never went back to them. Yeah,we had expansions based on them exceptfor okay. You had cataclysmYeah, but even though thatwas not like endgame, right?No, that's just a leveling revamp whichhonestly was not the direction theyshould go for revamping the old worldbecause like I said last time the problemwith that is that therevamp was not becauseHow nor Eastern Kings are progressing aslike just part of theworld. They're not growing at allYeah, like they're not moving forwardwith time. It was just a big drag and hiteverything. So now everything's on fireYeah, like when you do I want I want theMasiya Noxus to keep movingExactly. Like when you do the boohooexpansion the bulge watershould change a little bitYeah, I should have adapted like this newexpansion. There should be differences inHow the world how theworld and bilge water is?Right and that could lead into the theserpentine Delta, which is off the coastof Ishtar that should change as wellYeah, you know that's like literally apoor area. That's the only poor area inIshtar like you'reallowed you'll get thereYou'll never get inlandYou're stuck on this Delta. Yeah, theycould literally find people in theserpentine Delta likeThey I don't want to give too much toomuch away of the short storyBut anyways, yeah, they find a personthat they meet in theserpentine Delta to take them inlandHave to find someoneAnd eventually someone willing yeah,eventually they doand he like leaves themPartial the way through because thingsare getting too dangerousLike no, we need to turn back nowAnd they literally feel like the jungleis swallowing them. That's terrifyingYeah, but the serpentine Delta you'll getthere. So I just wantto see the world changeBased on the expansion. So when you havethe boohoo expansion bilge water and allthese places shouldchange with it. Yeah, ICompletely agree. You know, we pivoted sohard off of races, but it's so easy totalk about the map ofRuneterra in these zonesMm-hmm. God, they're so cool. There's somany ways they can goabout it is the thingYeah, they could go the complete oppositeof what we said for all we know we arestarting off in shooting my ish tolaniaYeah, yeahI mean that noxious slash Damacyexpansion would be pretty good thatactually be insane anentire session dedicatesIt's just like the war between oxus andthe moss. Yeah, welearned about both of themThat'd be awesome and you pick a sideGod, man. I want to dothere's so many ways to go about itI can't wait to just have like a littleInkling of news just allaced of like anything with yeahWhen do you think we're gonna get thatfirst taste of somethinglike that first little?We're gonna have this meeting. We'rejoining us on this day. We're gonna talkabout the right of a moWe're gonna really alittle bit of the storyYeah, talk a little bitabout how the game is gonna workAnd yeahLike something as smallas like like like you knowLike one of the devs standing up with alike like slideshowpresentation behind themYeah with some like cool character artfor the MMO being like yeahThis is what the classes are gonna be iswhat they're gonna do. Oh, manWhen do you think we'regonna get that first piece?Not the expand not like not the game butlike that first piece ofinformation. Yeah, dudeI mean they've been onthis for how long now this MMOI mean like pretty reasonably long forMMO right MMO is alwaysgonna take like four six yearsYeah, right with a fully dedicated teamBut it's been long enough now to where Ithink by the end of2024 guaranteed is my guessYeah, I'm feeling veryconfident in that by the end of 2024Maybe we'll know yeah, yeah, you're gonnaget something. Yeah, that'swhat I'm thinking for sureAll right, like no way we go through allof 2024 into 2025 without knowinganything about the MMOYeah, and that's like me thinking. Yeah,we're gonna like see some like talk onlike their YouTube channelAbout about the classes and stillactually make the YouTube channelYeah, yeah, or even just like drop it onlike League of Legends or something. Ilike Riot Games, you knowYeah, that that's my guessBut then in terms of like an actualtrailer drop. I would notexpect that 2024 personallyI would expect that more 2025 is whenthey officially like out to the public atlike game awards, you knowWe see a riot MMO game like title dropand really big cinematic trailer thatprobably cost them way too much moneyHow much they put into music videos? Iknow we were just talking about that forabout the Runeterra cardgame for Legends of RuneterraI tactics actually. Yeah,yeah, yeah team fight actBut I do they even the legends ofRuneterra cinematicsare crazy. Yeah, dudeSo I'm like I'm just waiting 2025 isdefinitely like mostlikely that's gonna happenI'm ready for that cinematic. That'sprobably gonna be insane budget andthat's gonna be like top tierSo what's your exacttimeline? So you're saying the first?Pieces of news and updates are gonna comein 2024. Yeah, I'm likemultiple like like, you knowLike maybe like threedifferent updates. Okay, just like devYou know talking maybe even showing likesome like screenshots oflike a starting zone. Mm-hmmAnd like I like here's here's noxious,you know, here's whatyou can expect in noxiousHere's what you can expect in Demacia andthen going through some classes andplayable races. Okay,that's what I would expectThat that's like 20 episodes for us. Oheasily talk about nothing. They canliterally not releasethe MMO at that pointWe don't think we need we can keep thisgoing forever. Yeah, we're goodOkay, but then go keep going keep going Iwant to hear the whole timelineOkay, so I'll say yeah by the end of 2024I would expect yeah, like we have somelike some screenshots, okay ofcharacter models andzones like starter zones andThen some like basic information what thegame might play like and then 2025Some big gaming event is when we see itour first trailer. Okay, it's just mepurely cinematic. No gameplayYeah, I mean I just likeany of them all the yeahI almost never dogameplay trailers, huh? NoAll the Warcraft used to like likevanilla Wow, they had gameplay chairs oflike here's the new dungeonThey show off the like the bosses andfighting. Yeah, but nobody does thatanymore. No, there's no gameplay choicefor MMOs. That's so weirdI never realized that but yeah, I reallysee cinematic purely cinematic trailerMaybe a release date maybe in 2025 2025I mean what I the thing is I've knownwhen like this game's gonnadrop it could be 2026 2027Like I hard to tell I cuz we still knowinformation like we still know wherethey're at in terms of developmentYeah, but I feel like you're right 2024We're gonna get that first piece of newslike a couple piece of information howthe game's gonna workHopefully they'll say HolyTrinity. No transmog. No flyingWhat else was there something else bigthat I want no no flying no transmogMan there was another piece that I wantedto say what well I looking for groupYeah, yeahYeah, I mean I've been looking for grouptool and Wow is solid it's L is lookingfor dungeon and looking for raidThat's the problem. Yeah, rightSo that's 2024 the first pieces of newsthe first little updates2025 will get that cinematictrailer more news coming outYeah, maybe an alpha at theend of 2025. Mm-hmm then 2026I think we'll get the beta at thebeginning of the year with the releasedate either probablytowards the end of 2026WowOkay. Yeah, that's what I can see that Icould definitely see that cuz yeahThis is mostly based on the fact that weknow nothing about where they're atThis is big is the big thingSo like the fact that like they haven'tshown anything yet means we're still likeyeah some ways off beforewe get our first trailerHey, actually I've been doing YouTube fora year now, so it would be a pilot closeto just over four yearsThat's crazy in theright that's that is crazyDamn, so I would be have done I've beendoing runtera lore videos and runterracontent for four yearsbefore the game even launchesDude, that's awesome. You're already Ichecked the other day. You're like 600videos in already. Yeah, I'm sure it'sthere's a lot of shorts in thereOh, yeah. Yeah, that's how YouTube countsthem. Mm-hmm. Oh, hey, we take off likelike, you know, a hundred of those videosThat's still like dude your 500 videos inthat's awesome. Yeah. Heck. Yeah, dudeI like the most recent one about the likerunterra runterra lore for beginners ifyou don't really knowwhat we're talking aboutI mean, I definitely recommend that justas one video to watch toUnderstand runterra lore in general andjust get an overview of thelore itself of the game. YeahOh, that's rightSpeaking of lore we know thattowards the end of this monthWe're gonna get some update on the cannontimeline and one gamethat they did say was cannonWas the game that I promised we talkedabout and with three minutes leftWe're gonna do it. So I really oh my god,dude time flies andyou talk about runterraIt's gonna talk about songof Nunu. Okay. Yes. Yes. IPlayed through song of Nunu. I'm on mysecond playthrough. It's an amazing game.I loved every minute of itThere's a ton of lore in thereEspecially when it comes to the like youget to you get to meet a lot of biggercare big characters like horn get to meetVolibearThese are spoilers by the wayI should have said spoilers, but I meanobviously we're talking about song ofNunu. So I said that at the beginningYeahBut there's a lot of lore in therelike you learn about the history of theyetis you learn about a lot of the war ofthe three sisters andLissandra and it talks to you about howthe yetis got their powerand where that power is Nunu isExtremely important like if you haven'tplayed this game Nunu is extremelyimportant. I'm not gonna say whyBut he's so major for the world ofrunterra way more than we could have everimagined and I hope that in the rightUm, oh we see Nunu grow up like almosthow you see and yeah,welcome world of WarcraftMm-hmmI want to see Nunu do the same thing andbecause it willump is kind of magicalI want to see him kind of adapt and growwith Nunu and this yeah,like you know, he sees himYeah, I mentioned. Yeah the way you know,the way Nunu perceives willump shouldchange as he gets olderYeah, right like Nunu and William shouldgo from like this kid and his yetiWho's like a fluffy teddy bear to frickinwarriors? Yeah, I wantto see that dude. YeahPlease please make Nunu just an absolutejust badass weapon. YeahI want to like a badass because I want tosee like I love thatYeah, that's likeyeah, look at my boy. YeahIf you have not played song of NunuI recommend it and I'm telling you you'regonna see that Nunu is notjust like some random careI always tell just some random charactercute story in the froyard.Yeah, the last of the yetisIt's nice, but after playing song ofNunu, he may be one of the most importantcharacters in Runeterra WowI mean willump already kind of naturallyis one of the most importantcharacters, right in terms ofIt's it's the magic of the yetis that'skeeping the watchersYou know the in at bay and stopping themfrom destroying this entireplanet in all of existenceYeah, so yetis are pretty important andwillump's the last one. Mm-hmm. That'salready insanely importantYeah, now Nunu is upthere too. So it's like oh boyYeah, this is definitely gettinginteresting. I'm surprisedhow much they delved into uh,I guess I shouldn't be too surprisedbecause the froyard's always gonna havecrazy stuff like the war of three sistersYeah, and everything like that. I'msurprised how muchthey delved into it in uhSong of Nunu because I'll say I expectedmore just to be about the relationshipbetween like Nunu and willump in generalAnd that would be it for the most partBut no they they went hard they evenintroduced their new creatures lordYeah, there's new creatures in there thatno one ever knew about before it has todo with the true iceYeah, there's like these creatures thatno one ever knew about itLike somehow they're freaking alive, butthey're made of true ice. I didn't evenknow that I didn'tknow you knew that's crazyOh my godand like i'm sure likeyou know this being like aUh, what's it like a third party titlebeing um tequila works?I'm sure riot, you know like riot writersstraight up sent them like, okayThese are some major plot points you'regonna hit because we're gonna set somestuff up this game. Yeah. All rightI do. Oh, it sets stuff up. Like yeah,you should play songof Nunu before the memoYeah, it's gonna be just because of howimportant it is of a game for the memoConvergence is builtin a separate timelineUh mage seeker very important if you ifyou want to know anything about damaciaLike you learn about damacia a lot inmage seeker and those are that's a canonThey haven't announced ityet that it's canon, butI'm very confident that mageseeker is going to be canonRuined king i'm pretty i'm like thatthat's going to be canonYeah, that should be just for how muchhappens in that it should be canonYeah, if ruined king isn't canon. There'sa lot of stuff thatisn't going to be canonYeah, they would have to rewrite a lot ofthings basically like not a lot of stuffwould just be out the windowYeah, uh, so I think ruined king is goingto be canon and then we have that new oneI don't know how much lore is going to bein that but yeah, bandletalesYeah, that one I expectthat would be pretty chillYou know, it's good to be pretty muchjust like you're a yordle helping outfellow yordles in in vandal cityThat's what i'm expecting out of that. Itjust could be like cute little charactersto talk to and stuffWell, you know me i'm a stardew. I lovestardew valley. I played a ton of thatgame on both my switch and pcAnd so I get that kind of vibe from it.And so i'm gonna be all for itYeah, it's definitely that kind of gamejust by looking at itthe dude. Yes song of nunoThat was that's shockingHow much they set things up? They'regoing all in on the story. Yeah, the MMOis coming and they know itThen they're ready for it. YepWell, definitely. Well, i'll keep an eye.I gotta get the exact day on when they'regonna have that talkI'm pretty sure it'sat the end of this monthThey said then in november they're goingto talk about the yeah, like the lore ingeneral and what they meant by theThe single what's canon and what's not Idon't think any of themajor story is going to changeYeah, major events. They're not going tochange the watchers and i'm gonna changeI'm gonna change the story of the mageseekers in dimas like damas is not all ofa sudden going to be likeMage friendly past and sylasis just like the king like yeahNo, I don't think they're going to changeany like anything that you probablyalready know on surface levelis probably not going to changeYeah, a lot of people are likeeverything's gone. I'm like, uh, I thinkit's going to be like the minor storieslike some small stories thatCharacters that justdon't really fit anythingThose things are going to change. Yeah,exactly. Yeah, it's gonna be some stuffwhere it's like, oh, yeah this oneLike, you know obscure character that didthis one thing in likezon. Yeah, that didn't add upOkay, we'll we'll just scratch that thisis different lore for them now. YeahYeahYeah, that's what i'm expecting verysmall minor stuff. You know, i'm excitedfor the riot fighterI need to see when that's coming outproject. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh,we'll see what happens thereI mean i'm curious what characters willintroduce throughout the game becauseobviously they're gonnakeep introducing new charactersThat's what you do for every stickfighter, right? Yeah, keep introducingnew characters into thefighting game to keep it interestingSo i'm curious what they're gonna pullobviously gonna be league of legendsheroes, but we'll see what they pull outYeah, you played a couple stick fighters.I love fighter z. OkayYeah, dragon fighters fighters. Dragonball fighters goes crazy. I can't waitfor the sequels. That's inevitableOkay, so you're definitely gonna playproject l. Yeah, why not? It sounds likeit's gonna be very funOkay, we'll talk more about that andmaybe the other they have another type ofproject coming out too.It's based in new terraI hope you enjoyed this episodeWe'll talk more about that in the nextepisode right here in thebrazen hydro pub of bilgewaterYou can find me at engrove on social andyoutube and you can find me conquest atconquest 95 on twitterAnd just stay up to date onthe go-ins on for this podcastYou can follow us at the brazen hydra ontwitter or head to the brazen hydra.comAnd you can feel free to throw us anyquestions answers anything we want totalk to us about on the brazen hydraLet us know at the brazen hydra twitter.Thanks for stopping by and we'll see youin the next one

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