The NFL Evolution

Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE) - genuine medical condition or a narrative concocted by the NFL? That's the hot debate in this episode of "Sockeytome," where Keebler and Detto go head-to-head over the controversial topic. Detto raises eyebrows with his skepticism, suggesting that CTE might be a storyline pushed by the league. We dissect the history of football and boxing, question the absence of protective gear in the past, and ponder why older athletes don’t have more documented cases of CTE. We also delve into the tragic deaths of athletes like Ray Lewis’s son and Muhammad Ali, arguing that issues like drug use and other medical conditions are often overlooked in the big picture.

Is the NFL more about spectacle than sport nowadays? We explore this transformation, speculating on Vince McMahon's potential future as commissioner and the impact of celebrity relationships like Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift on the sport's popularity. We also reminisce about unforgettable football scandals and moments, from the Patriots' cheating allegations to Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson's relationship. From halftime shows to the latest media attention magnets like Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce, we discuss how football has evolved into a major entertainment platform, sometimes overshadowing the sport itself.

We wrap up this episode with a mix of humor and frustration, touching on the intrusion of celebrity culture into football and Tom Brady's transition to a Fox deal. Our candid discussion extends to the challenges of hosting a podcast, including the dreaded dry mouth from constant talking. Despite our grievances, we end on a high note, encouraging listeners to stay good and expressing our gratitude for their continued support. Join us for a spirited conversation that blends controversy, nostalgia, and plenty of laughs!

Transcript

CTE and the NFL Circus

Speaker 1 0:00

Saki Tumi hey everybody.

Speaker 2 0:19

it's Ditto Back with another episode of Saki Tumi, and today we're going to talk about how brain damage has hurt Keebler. That and then the NFL being a circus. So stay tuned. See you in a little bit.

Speaker 3 0:37

Hey everybody. It's Keebler from Saki To Me. Just want to throw out a shout out to our fellow podcaster down the road, steve Pugh, host of Dads with Nerdy Ambitions. If you get a chance, give him a listen.

Speaker 1 0:49

Sake to me.

Speaker 2 0:54

Hey everybody, it's Ditto. We're back with another episode of Sake to Me. I'm here with Keebler.

Speaker 3 1:01

How's it going? Everybody, Thanks for having me back.

Speaker 2 1:03

Yeah, you're lucky you were invited back. Popular demand Must be nice being retired.

Speaker 3 1:08

It is real nice.

Speaker 2 1:09

Taking off all that time going places doing stuff.

Speaker 3 1:11

Yeah, a lot of golf, Terrible golf.

Speaker 2 1:14

Not exactly podcasting, like you're supposed to be doing. I should be. What am I paying you for? I?

Speaker 3 1:18

don't know. All right. This is why I'm back the fans want me.

Speaker 2 1:22

The fans do want you. They want to hear those jokes Anyway today's episode is about CTE and the NFL circus. Why do?

Speaker 3 1:31

you call it a circus. Well, let's get started with.

Speaker 2 1:33

CTE first. Yeah, let's do CTE.

Speaker 3 1:36

Don't you try to fire me up right away. I think, right and right, both of us might have a small case of CTE.

Speaker 2 1:41

Oh, I have a huge case of CTE.

Speaker 3 1:42

I've had it since I was born.

Speaker 2 1:43

I've been told I'm pretty sure the doctor dropped me on my head. That's where it started. It was your mother Hit me right in the soft spot. You know what I mean. I hear you Right there. Anyway, cte is chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Very good, I'm proud of you Encephalopathy, and it's apparently just taken a beating over a period of time. But I don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 2:09

I think they made this up. It's common in football, but I think it first came out in boxing and martial arts and stuff.

Speaker 2 2:16

Well, that's what I mean. They don't make boxers wear helmets or go in a blue tent.

Speaker 3 2:21

Right, right, I mean football is making a big deal out of it, but, like I said, martial arts, you know, boxing is part of that. I think even in the military they're saying a lot of cases of CTE. See, that's what CTE? We don't hear about it. I don't think it exists. You don't think it exists. No, I don't think it's real. What do you think is going on? You tell me the foods we eat. We I'm catching a tone right now.

Speaker 2 2:45

Oh god, yeah just looking at your face is giving me cte yankee candle. I gotta smell that stuff right into the brain.

Speaker 3 2:54

Really there's dead cells you think it's from eating stuff?

Speaker 2 2:58

smelling stuff. No, like ray lewis's son died, correct, yeah, and he overdosed and they they blamed it on CTE. No, the dude died because he did too many drugs drugs, right, right, so it's not CTE. I had a traumatic brain injury. I'm not dead. I don't want to go kill anybody well, maybe some people, but that's a different story, yeah, that's another story for another day.

Speaker 2 3:23

Another story for another day. Another story for another day. But yeah, it's as sorry as I am that Ray Lewis lost his son, right? I'm not trying to make light of this or anything like that.

Speaker 3 3:31

No, not at all. He died of a drug overdose.

Speaker 2 3:34

He didn't die of CTE Right right, so Muhammad Ali CTE. It's hard to say. Did Michael J Fox get hit in the head too many times?

Speaker 3 3:45

Oh no, he's got Parkinson's. He's got Parkinson's, yeah, so does he have CTE?

Speaker 2 3:48

He didn't play football, no no, so how do you explain it?

Speaker 3 3:53

That's a good question.

Speaker 2 3:54

That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 3:55

Why you're here.

Speaker 2 3:55

That's why it doesn't exist. It's a crap scheme that the NFL is putting on people. See, you know, think about the guys that started football way back from Canton Ohio. They wore leather helmets. Yeah, how many of them died early? Probably all of them because it was so long ago. Right, right, but really, how many of them had Parkinson's and stuff like that? Why aren't there any records?

Speaker 3 4:18

I don't think they had records of all that stuff, like you said.

Speaker 2 4:22

Obviously they're dead now.

Speaker 3 4:23

I'm sure most of them have passed.

Speaker 2 4:25

Maybe you've got a rare one or two that are still alive, but still so CTE, it's like a talking point or a soapbox, a stand-on, and whatever the NFL is doing, because you know they're rigging the games. We'll get into that in a little bit. Oh, we're going to get into that, I will light you up. Yeah, I will light you up, yeah.

Speaker 3 4:43

We're like 4th of July early here.

Speaker 2 4:44

Here's the NFL talking about CTE the entire time. And boxers still don't wear headgear. True, they go in there, amateurs do Amateurs. Who watches amateur boxing? Well, not many.

Speaker 3 4:53

There you go.

Speaker 2 4:54

Exactly.

Speaker 3 4:58

Still. Even so, even wearing headgear, taking the blows to the head, your guys there, the mixed martial arts, they don't wear it either.

Speaker 2 5:03

UFC.

Speaker 3 5:03

UFC. Yeah, correct, yeah, they take a beating and they take a beating. They actually take a real beating yeah With, with not only fists, knees, elbows, feet Yep, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 5:14

It's crazy, and so that's why I say it doesn't exist. It's a crap point that the NFL stands on to try and make it seem like the whole thing is going to be safer, when it's not. They're just watering it down to put on a show. Well, it is a show. Why are the goddamn cowboys on every talk station all the time, no matter what?

Speaker 3 5:32

America's team.

Speaker 2 5:33

It's America's team Jerry Jones' lips must be sore They've got to be. You think so From that much sucking Hell. Yeah, wow, absolutely.

Speaker 3 5:43

I'm not a Cowboy fan, but, wow, I hate the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 5:47

It's America's team bro. Not to change the subject and we're going to go right back. But Dak Prescott sucks, I'm saying it out loud he sucks. He'll never win a Super Bowl. He sucks.

Speaker 3 5:57

He is to me overrated. I agree, completely overrated.

Speaker 2 6:07

Yeah, yeah, uh, but anyway, they literally know nothing about cte. Well, who came up with it? Then you can only diagnose it after you're dead.

Speaker 3 6:11

So it's really why? Because they have, they can't do it with x-rays, or great question, why, why? Why I mean it's been around for quite a while now. Oh, it's been around for years. Yeah, according to them. According to that, like what? Maybe the 70s or 80s?

Speaker 2 6:24

Hey man, four out of five dentists prefer Colgate, According to them. According to them, but there's no symptoms. They can't find symptoms, okay, and they can't link it with it. Everything is just old age.

Speaker 3 6:39

It's just old age. That part. That's a good point. It's taking and beating. I mean not to age myself, but I just turned 60 last year and you're right, You're starting to feel stuff. Yeah, I mean, we played hard as kids.

Speaker 2 6:54

Absolutely, because back then there was no CTE, so you just did Right, they didn't know. Yeah, I've had four or five concussions in my day.

Speaker 3 7:02

It's just an excuse.

Speaker 2 7:03

I had a TBI. Yes, right, but I had problems before I had the TBI.

Speaker 3 7:08

Well, you had a lot of problems.

Speaker 2 7:10

Well, no doy, I started a podcast. There's one.

Speaker 3 7:15

Then you asked me to come on it. That's two.

Speaker 2 7:17

Absolutely so. They couldn't. There's no symptoms.

Speaker 3 7:25

And then they say there's behavioral mood and motor changes in people you are describing yourself to a T.

Speaker 2 7:28

Hold on, let me get through it. Absolutely All right. The cognitive impairment Okay, trouble thinking, a lot, memory loss, ditto, check Problems Planning Organizational.

Speaker 3 7:39

Organizational Check.

Speaker 2 7:41

They also have problems carrying out tasks. Oh, this is you to a. T Depression. So now we go to mood. Okay, mood swings, depression and apathy.

Speaker 3 7:50

Okay.

Speaker 2 7:51

Emotional instability, suicidal thoughts, substance abuse and sleeping more than usual. Wow, I did that when I was 13.

Speaker 3 8:01

13. Hey, you peaked early.

Speaker 2 8:05

It's basically what they describe ADD or ADHD. Yeah, those are the symptoms of ADD and ADHD they didn't have that when I was a kid.

Speaker 3 8:12

They didn't.

Speaker 2 8:13

no, but they had to figure out how to calm kids down. In a classroom they couldn't sit still right, so they came up with ADD and ADHD, right, or why they couldn't learn and they couldn't make them better. Well, dude, your kid's a retard, I have ADD, 100% Right.

Speaker 3 8:25

I agree, I've never been diagnosed. I can diagnose you right now. I'm not even a doctor. I had ADD, maybe a doctor of love.

Speaker 2 8:32

But oh Jesus, here we go. I love the pillow so I can go to sleep, because I like to sleep more than usual. Sleeping is good. That comes with age as well. But when I was in fourth grade my teacher wanted me to be tested for ADD. My mother said no, really. Yeah, because she didn't want me on the pills. Yeah, on all the medication.

Speaker 3 8:52

My wife's a teacher. A lot of her students. She knows when they're having a bad day because they don't take their medication.

Speaker 2 8:58

Well, don't give them medication. Well, yeah, and that's the first best thing my parents ever did for me. It's not getting you medicated the second best thing they ever did, for me is when I actually had the TBI, they would not let me take the isocontins. Ah yes, two times people wanted to prescribe drugs to me. Yeah, and my mother said, hell, no, Hell to the no, you had enough problems anyway. Right, I was a problem child, I was a terror. My mom left me several times. She didn't want me anywhere around her.

Speaker 3 9:34

I was reading through this and I'm like CTE.

Speaker 2 9:37

You could talk about Junior Seau. You could talk about. Aaron Hernandez, you could talk about John Grimsley and Mike Webster. John Grimsley was the first person to donate his brain to science.

Speaker 3 9:49

Really, I'm not familiar with that guy, mike Webster though I heard from the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 2 9:54

Yes, and John Grimsley played for the Dolphins. Believe it or not, really yeah, in like the early 80s, okay. And so they knew about it. I can't remember when he died, but they knew about it in the 80s at least. Right, because he donated his brain to science, for research.

Speaker 3 10:10

In fact, but that's like the only way you can tell. Like you said, right, they cut open the brain after and then they check what they got to check.

Speaker 2 10:18

What the hell does a CAT scan do?

Speaker 3 10:20

Well, I know, yeah, you got CAT scans and MRIs that should be able to hopefully tell you something you would think so. I mean, you can find a bleed right If there's a bleed on the brain.

Speaker 2 10:28

That's what I'm saying. Well, why?

Speaker 3 10:30

can't you tell if you have CTE with like a medical procedure like this? I don't know, that's what I can't figure out. That's why I don't think it actually exists.

Speaker 1 10:38

I think they make it up talking point like global warming or global cooling or the ozone Don't go there.

Speaker 2 10:46

No, I know.

Speaker 3 10:47

That's for another day. We don't do that, that's for another day. I'm saying, we'll do that.

NFL and Entertainment Circus

Speaker 2 10:50

No, we don't. Okay. This is the NFL's salt box to stand on a shelf.

Speaker 3 10:56

Why has the NFL adopted it?

Speaker 2 10:58

Because they're changing their whole toot. Really, yeah, it's a matter of years before Vince McMahon has taken over the NFL as commissioner. Guaranteed, guaranteed. That's why he got fired from the WWE.

Speaker 3 11:10

I can't see it.

Speaker 2 11:11

They want him to run it as sports entertainment.

Speaker 3 11:14

It is entertainment, it is a sport, and it's on the up and up. It's not a sport anymore. Well, no, you know what it is. You're really starting to press my buttons.

Speaker 2 11:25

It's like a munchkin, a jelly donut munchkin.

Speaker 3 11:28

Okay.

Speaker 2 11:29

Yeah, it's just only all this fluff with some jelly inside. Really the jelly is the football and the rest of it is the entertainment around it. They just figured out how to package entertainment around a sport.

Speaker 3 11:39

Yeah, but it's all for real?

Speaker 2 11:41

No, it's not you think it's fixed. Oh, it's fixed, oh it's fixed. Scripted oh God yeah, no, yeah.

Speaker 3 11:49

I'm at a loss for words right now. You should be, I'm going to need a second here Because you know I'm right, I can't say that.

Speaker 2 11:57

Yeah well, Caller. Do we have a caller? No, we do not have a caller. You're not getting any help.

Speaker 3 12:01

I need some help, ham, you're not getting it. Where's my buddy, ham?

Speaker 2 12:06

Hey, where's Sammy J when we need him?

Speaker 3 12:08

Sammy J. Anyway, the only thing that's wrong about football is the cheaters, and that's the Patriots.

Speaker 2 12:16

Yeah, because if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying, you want to win. For 20 years you got to cheat. I guess you got to do something. Hey, not only were they good at football, they were good at cheating, so they were good at two things. So they are the champions of cheating. They are. Is there anything that they're not champions of? That's all I want to know.

Speaker 3 12:34

I can't answer that.

Speaker 2 12:35

That's right. They even had Aaron Hernandez who had CTE, and they were still champions. They were still champions, that's right.

Speaker 3 12:43

That's right. So, vince McMahon, you really see that.

Speaker 2 12:48

Well, the Rock just brought back the USFL, the USFL and the. And he's promoting it. Whatever, I guarantee you, I guarantee you, vince McMahon ends up the commissioner of the NFL. Oh boy, I guarantee it, he's just going to turn into a bigger circus. Look what he did with the WWE.

Speaker 3 13:07

He made it huge.

Speaker 2 13:09

And that's what they want.

Speaker 3 13:10

He brought in, got all his family involved, which was kind of cool.

Speaker 2 13:15

You remember when Fox used to have Frank Caliendo on there? He used to do the Caliendo on there, yes, and he used to do all those. He used to do the impersonations.

Speaker 3 13:21

I'm John Madden, yeah.

Speaker 2 13:23

I need a turducken, yeah. And then NBC had the Victoria's Secret models yes, is that right? Yeah. Then you get the opening acts where it's Faith Hill, carrie Underwood, oh yeah, hank Williams Jr was on there for Monday Night Football for a long time, yeah, yeah. And what's the biggest point of the football season, the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 13:45

Right in the middle is Right in the middle the football.

Speaker 2 13:49

Right in the middle of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 13:50

Oh, the halftime show.

Speaker 2 13:51

Bam. Yeah, that's all people care about.

Speaker 3 13:54

Well yeah.

Speaker 2 13:54

And then, when you dial it back a little bit, you had Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson. Oh yeah, that was the big story. That was a huge story. Yeah, and what happened to them? They broke up, yep. And now you have. And then you had Tom Brady and Giselle Yep, and what happened to them?

Speaker 3 14:09

They broke up.

Speaker 2 14:10

Yeah, I see Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift going real far. There's going to be like four songs about Travis Kelsey soon, really soon, really soon. Oh man, oh man, I'm getting fired up. It's just, it's a circus. They put a game in to draw people in for commercials and right now it's Taylor Swift.

Football, CTE, and Entertainment Balancing

Speaker 3 14:31

Oh, she's huge. That's the biggest name in football right now, believe it or not? Yeah, is her and Travis's relationship? Yep, her supporting football, him, and vice versa.

Speaker 2 14:41

I wonder if Patrick Mahomes gets pissed, he should be. I'd be pissed. I'm the best player in football and Travis Kelsey is getting all his attention.

Speaker 3 14:50

Mahomes is a sidekick. Yeah, all right, mahomes is doing stuff you don't watch the Subway commercials. Somebody's a sidekick. Yeah, you're my sidekick, yeah.

Speaker 2 14:59

You're my sidekick. Yeah, it's a side show with Travis Kelsey. It's not a sidekick, it's a side show. It's a side show. It's watching Patrick Mahomes do what he does and then watching stuff between Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Right, the sheer fact that Taylor Swift is even involved in football makes me want to puke. I think it's good for football. I was even pissed that Giselle was involved.

Speaker 3 15:23

She was involved just because she was married, but did she show up on TV a lot?

Speaker 2 15:28

No, that's the one thing I will say. At least they were married.

Speaker 3 15:32

Well, this is a new relationship, simpson and.

Speaker 2 15:34

Romo were not married, and neither are Kelsey and Swift. At least Brady and Go were not married. No, and neither are Kelsey and Swift. No, at least Brady and Giselle were married.

Speaker 3 15:42

Do you think they're having coitus who, taylor and Kelsey?

Speaker 2 15:48

No, I think she's a lesbian, he's gay, I do, and that's why Patrick Mahomes is so pissed, because they're in love. Dude, what's your problem? Oh, right now, the NFL. You know what the worst part is? I'm tuning into it. Yeah, you tune in every week. I want to see what happens. Absolutely, I'm getting that red zone.

Speaker 3 16:08

You've got your red zone. You've got your fantasy football teams. Heck yeah. Three of them.

Speaker 2 16:20

You've got your cold beverages. Adult beverages every weekend.

Speaker 3 16:21

They actually changed it to sports entertainment. The NFL is actually listed under sports entertainment. Are you serious? Yes, is that because of the betting you think?

Speaker 2 16:25

that's what kind of ruined it. No, that's what made it easier for them to bet or influence Gotcha.

Speaker 1 16:32

Yes, and so that's what's happening now and it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 16:36

It is a goddamn circus. I'm starting to calm down a little bit here. No, you, and so that's what's happening now and it's ridiculous. Okay, it is a goddamn circus. I'm starting to calm down a little bit here. No, you're not I'll get you back up there, don't worry about it, hold on, let me just flip a couple pages.

Speaker 3 16:46

Yeah, flip a page.

Speaker 2 16:48

Tom Brady's Fox deal.

Speaker 3 16:51

Oh, here we go yeah.

Speaker 2 16:52

How does that even work? I'm a major Tom Brady fan. I would have sexual relations with Tom Brady if I could Just saying out there I love him. He gave me the best 20 years of my life. He did, I loved it. How do you sign a deal for Fox Right For $375 million?

Speaker 3 17:09

In 10 years. He's working off. Right now he is working with. Who's his lead guy? Kevin Ridley, kevin Burkhart, kevin Burkhart, yeah, they're working offseason right now together practicing. That's how dedicated that man is. He wants to be awesome at this too. Yes, he does, yes, he does.

Speaker 2 17:29

He does, he wants to be awesome at this too.

Speaker 3 17:31

I'm sure he can just go on TV, just wing it like a couple guys trying to do a podcast.

Speaker 2 17:40

The TV. He's just winging it like you know, kind of like a couple guys trying to do a podcast. The worst part is Tony Romo was awesome at it.

Speaker 3 17:41

He does very well.

Speaker 2 17:42

But here's my point. I was as good as Tony Romo was. I could call the play ahead of time because it's scripted.

Speaker 3 17:50

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 17:50

You know it's coming, you can see it, you can see, oh, that's holding.

Speaker 3 17:55

You talked. This is no lie. I'm going to tell you something right now. My wife tells me all the time you could do this job, and it's not only football. I'll say something and then the announcers, in whatever sport, will say it seconds after me. We should carry it over to podcasting. Yeah, no shit, right, yeah, you knew that was coming. Oh yeah, bazinga. Where's yeah Bazinga, where's that from Bazinga?

Speaker 2 18:21

I'm not even saying it. I know what it's from, but I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to give you the credit. Big Bang Theory. Big Bang Theory. I hate when anybody's right and gets something over me.

Speaker 3 18:33

You didn't want me to even talk about that. This is back to our sitcom episode. I couldn't even talk about Big Bang Theory, you just kept saying it. Why are we on?

Speaker 2 18:45

this. Now it's football and CTE, I think you have CTE right now.

Speaker 3 18:49

I told you man Four or five concussions. I'm falling out of a tree 20 feet up.

Speaker 2 18:53

You've literally lost consciousness right now. I have.

Speaker 3 18:57

I've got a freaking sweat on my brow right now because I'm looking at your face and you're getting me riled up.

Speaker 2 19:03

Should I go get a bag of peas and put it on your forehead, woo?

Speaker 3 19:05

Yeah, weirdo.

Speaker 2 19:09

My palms are sweaty right now. I don't.

Speaker 3 19:11

You're getting me fired up. Now the CTE Real quick, Just for a minute Is sweaty palms one of the symptoms. Real quick, just for a minute. Sweaty palms one of the symptoms, because I got it.

Speaker 2 19:19

That's because you're nervous. You're in front of the microphone.

Speaker 3 19:22

Oh, that doesn't.

Speaker 2 19:22

And it shows.

Speaker 3 19:23

Yeah.

Speaker 2 19:24

No, just real quick with the CTE. Okay, and kids, and what happens, like these kids are watching this football Right Now with the circus. This is how we're going back.

Speaker 3 19:34

Okay, they're watching the circus and a lot of girls are watching.

Speaker 2 19:37

They're watching now for Taylor Swift, right? Oh yeah, yeah. And so now even some guys like Taylor Swift and whatever that's not something and they want to play football, so they're into it. And now where does CTE come in there? And they're seeing all these people on TV killing it, Like Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes and who else I don't know Steph Curry, Nobody on the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 20:02

Oh, okay, football. Okay, yeah, tyreek.

Speaker 2 20:06

I think Tyreek Hill had it, yeah, Anyway, and they didn't want to get into it, Right? Who said it? Oh God, it was Ray Lewis's ex-wife, or the mother of his son said the kids shouldn't be able to play until they're at least 14. I'm like 14? They're still too young, oh yeah. But I mean, you've got to start developing your skills of football. You can develop the skills. There's other ways you can do it without contact.

Speaker 3 20:32

Right? Well, that's why they have flag football.

Speaker 2 20:34

That's what it should be until you're at least 14 or older. Right right, you shouldn't be in like Pop Warner at 10.

Speaker 3 20:40

Yeah, and that's what. Yeah, they're in pads. What? Nine, 10 years old?

Speaker 2 20:43

But these kids want to be there then, because they're watching all this, and then they go to school, they talk about it with their friends. Right, they're all over the place.

Speaker 3 20:57

And they're like oh, I want to be a football player. I mean, I wasn't that old, but that's guys that they remember hitting guys like that.

Speaker 2 21:05

Dick Bucas. Is he dead? I don't even know he might be dead. You brought him up. I don't even know. I didn't look him up because he wasn't part of the show. Yeah, I think he is he probably is, but I don't think he died of CTE because it's not real. It is real, it's fake news. I'm now down Trump and what can be done to address the issue more effectively.

Speaker 3 21:25

I mean, they change the helmets all the time.

Speaker 2 21:27

Look at the new ones on there now.

Speaker 3 21:31

That's going to make everybody look goofy. Yeah, he died last year. Just for an update on Dick Buckus Look at you.

Speaker 2 21:36

You should just be here every show and chime in with real facts that I didn't look up because I'm slow. No fact check. I have fake CTE. You think CTE is fake, but yours is real and the last question right now is do you think the NFL can balance being a sport and an entertainment entity or juggernaut?

Speaker 3 22:01

There is a fine line there, there is, there is, and if what you say is true, you're going to have to figure a way to make it like mesh. Let me see how do I express myself with this. You know what I mean. I mean, you don't want it to seem like it's like wrestling, fake or really scripted.

Speaker 2 22:19

It already does. Well, yeah, you say this. I say it all the time. You'll see it more and more as you watch it.

Speaker 3 22:25

Well, now probably because, yeah, you'll see it, because you put something in my head and once something gets in my head from you, I only put things that are true in your head. Okay.

Speaker 2 22:33

Datto is the best.

Speaker 3 22:35

Datto is the best I'm going to say that tonight my wife's going to be like what the hell did you just say Get back to this I'm going to make up a little jingle. But yeah, yeah, I mean, you're right, they're going to have to find a way, if it is a sports entertainment, to kind of mesh it together so it doesn't seem like it's off the rails.

Speaker 2 22:55

It's like they're trying to spread it out too much. They're trying to go to Mexico, they're trying to go to Germany, and I appreciate that the whole world should be able to enjoy this Right, right, but they're trying to do it to bring the entertainment everywhere also.

Speaker 3 23:06

Oh yeah, it's like the Jaguars are England's team now.

Speaker 2 23:10

At some point you should pick like five cities tops out of the United States and visit them once a year. True, so these other countries can get this.

Speaker 3 23:18

This is true because you're doing like yeah, that's a great point. You're doing Munich, you're doing, you know, mexico, you're doing London. Why can't you do something like Sheboygan, wisconsin or wherever Sheboygan is, no stadiums.

Speaker 2 23:36

Well, I'm sure you can find some kind of arena there. If you're in Sheboygan and Sheboygan's in Illinois Illinois, it's in Illinois. Is it Wisconsin? Illinois, it's in Illinois you have to have a stadium. Plus. If you're in Illinois, in Sheboygan, you're going to drive to Chicago and watch the Bears, true, so it doesn't matter. The next best topic, and the one I should have gotten to earlier, is streaming, really Streaming. The networks are basically about to lose.

Speaker 3 24:01

Fact check Sheboygan's in Wisconsin. Like I said, it's not in Illinois. So anyway, let's get back to this.

Speaker 2 24:09

I hate when you beat me Anyway. Streaming Streaming yeah, the services Prime is picking up games. Netflix is picking up games. Yeah, all these streaming services are taking on.

Speaker 3 24:20

I just got my reminder for the NFL package.

Speaker 2 24:24

Netflix has two games on Christmas Day. Are you serious?

Speaker 3 24:27

Yes, what was the? Where did it go last year that we had to buy? That's the problem. That is the problem.

Speaker 2 24:34

Paramount, paramount. Yes, that's NBC.

Speaker 3 24:37

They already have a deal. They already have a deal.

Speaker 2 24:42

Paramount owns NBC. Yeah, oh, peacock is NBC, peacock is NBC. Right, paramount owns Peacock, it owns NBC, okay. And they're just like, but now you're saying Netflix this year. Netflix has two games at Christmas and Prime still has the Thursday, the Thursday night games, so everything's going to stream it.

Speaker 3 24:56

it so you have to buy into all this stuff. What was the one, uh, the Black Friday game. Was that on regular TV last year, or was that a streamed game? I think it was Prime again, was it? I'm not sure, but yeah, I don't remember what it was on. It was the Jets and the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 25:09

So it was a terrible game that nobody's gonna watch.

Speaker 3 25:11

I watched it.

Speaker 2 25:16

And that's basically what streaming gets. You're dead. What that is watch? Holy shit balls. You're dead.

Speaker 3 25:24

Well, could be worse, could be the Patriots or the other, and whatever. Yeah, that relationship went to hell once Tom left. Hey, hey, hey, all right, let's get back on point here, because now you know you're really getting me fired up. We're actually to the end already.

Speaker 2 25:37

Yes.

Speaker 3 25:37

I'm just getting started.

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Speaker 2 25:39

Well, you should have started about 27 minutes ago. You know how hard is this to be to edit now. This is horseshit.

Speaker 3 25:44

Well, that's because you've got dry mouth. Absolute horse food. That's got to be another thing. Cte Dry mouth Is that a symptom? Because my freaking host over here has it.

Speaker 2 25:52

I have dry mouth bad right now? Yeah, I don't know. What does that have to do with something? Your mouth's?

Speaker 3 25:59

always open. Oh, did he say that.

Speaker 2 26:04

I am a, it's because I talk too much.

Speaker 3 26:05

Yeah, way too much.

Speaker 2 26:06

You better shut your mouth when you're talking to me. Listen to your stinky. All right, we are at the end now. This has been fun, has it? Has it really?

Speaker 3 26:16

Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm going to say it has been. I, oh yeah, I'm going to say it has been. I'm glad you enjoyed it Totally. I'm the one that owns the show Talk to Casey about that.

Speaker 2 26:26

Don't do that. Alright, everybody, we're at the end of the show and, as always, be good. Hey, everybody, it's Ditto. I just want to give a quick shout out to my buddy, larry, over at LegendaryGraphicscom. He's the one that came up with our logo, came out fantastic, he does amazing work, and that's LegendaryGFXcom.

Speaker 1 27:00

Look him up.

Speaker 2 27:12

Sake to me. Hey everybody, it's Ditto. Thanks for checking out our show today. Hope you enjoyed it. Socky Doobie, Socky Doobie. If you get a chance, head over to someassemblynet. That's our sponsor and you can really do some business. All right, as always, everybody be good.

Speaker 1 27:24

Sake to me.