The Reality Drama

Is reality TV genuine entertainment or just manipulated drama? Join us as Casey and Detto dive headfirst into the polarizing world of reality television. From the wild antics of "Jersey Shore" to the calculated dramatics of "The Real World" and "Survivor," we leave no stone unturned. Casey doesn’t hold back on her disdain for the Kardashians, while Detto makes a spirited defense of reality TV’s appeal as an easy escape. We take a nostalgic trip back to the origins of the genre, reminiscing about "Candid Camera" and contemplating how much has changed since the early days of "The Real World."

We then head into the murky waters of the scripted versus unscripted debate. Is the drama in reality shows like "The Bachelor" genuine, or are participants just fame-hungry actors? Shows such as "The Amazing Race" and "Fixer Upper" with Chip and Joanna Gaines are dissected for their mix of real moments and obvious orchestration. The discussion takes a fun turn as we analyze Rob Gronkowski’s unscripted antics during Comedy Central roasts, comparing them to the evidently staged segments of other reality programs. We also question the motivations behind cooking competitions—are contestants genuinely passionate about cooking, or is it all just a stepping stone to fame?

Reality TV’s impact on society is our next big topic. We explore the modern obsession with fame, spotlighting talent competitions like "American Idol" and discussing the authenticity of their audition processes. While we celebrate success stories such as Carrie Underwood's, we remain skeptical about the fairness of the voting systems on these shows. Finally, we wrap up the episode by reflecting on the joy of reconnecting despite our busy lives and share our excitement for what’s to come. Join us as we sign off with our signature message of positivity, already looking forward to our bigger and better comeback after a short break.

Transcript

Speaker 2 0:13

Hey, everybody, welcome to.

Speaker 1 0:15

SakiTumi.

Speaker 2 0:21

Welcome to the new episode of SakiTumi. Join us as we dive into the wild world of reality TV Drama, absurdity and guilty pleasures collide. Find out why we can't look away or why we should.

Speaker 3 0:34

Hey everyone, it's Casey. Just wanted to give a shout out to our fellow podcaster, Steve Pugh. Down the road. Dads with nerdy ambitions, Check him out wherever you listen to your podcasts.

Speaker 1 0:45

Saki To Me Dads with nerdy ambitions, check them out. Wherever you listen to your podcasts.

Speaker 2 0:48

Sock-a-do-me. Hey everybody, it's Ditto, we're back here with our next episode of Sock-a-do-me. I'm here with my girl, case Casey.

Speaker 3 0:57

Hello everyone.

Speaker 2 0:58

What's happening?

Speaker 3 0:59

Not too much.

Speaker 2 1:00

How you been. How was your fourth?

Speaker 3 1:02

It was good.

Speaker 2 1:03

Yeah, you liked it Low-key?

Speaker 3 1:04

yeah, hot dogs, hamburgers. You know basics.

Speaker 2 1:08

Smash burgers, smash burgers. Good for you. Those are great, aren't?

Speaker 3 1:12

they. So good Anyway this episode is going to be about reality TV and how much it absolutely friggin' sucks or that it doesn't suck.

Speaker 2 1:24

Oh boy, I think it sucks. I hate it. I can't stand people that like it, and if you don't get the Kardashians off the air at some point, I might literally lose it.

Speaker 3 1:33

So I'm not gonna disagree on the Kardashians, but I think there's a lot of things that are good about reality. Tv I like some of it. Some Some of it's entertaining and I like some of the reality TV. What?

Speaker 2 1:43

It kind of sucks you in Like what.

Speaker 3 1:45

Well, there's different genres of reality TV as well. You know, there's the challenges, there's the trash stuff like you know Jersey Shore but it's entertaining, it's mindless TV that you can kind of watch. I like that stuff.

Speaker 2 1:58

Do you like mindless TV? Sometimes, oh God.

Speaker 3 2:01

Something to put on that I don't have to think about or concentrate on. Seinfeld, okay, but you've seen every episode of Seinfeld how many times probably? Sometimes it's nice to watch something different.

Speaker 2 2:12

That 70s show.

Speaker 3 2:13

It's kind of funny to watch people Sports.

Speaker 2 2:17

It's a disaster. I think that's why people like it. That's what makes it so bad. Is they watch it? Because they want to see people fail.

Speaker 3 2:26

They want the negativity out of it? Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just fun to watch, sometimes Stuff I wouldn't necessarily do and not anything related to my life really. So it's kind of fun to watch.

Speaker 2 2:40

I don't think there's ever been a reality show that I've ever been like ooh, I gotta watch this again.

Speaker 3 2:47

Not one ever. You didn't watch any real reality shows ever. Do you know what the first reality show was?

Speaker 2 2:53

I do not. I did no, and it wasn't the real world. Are you sure it was like a game show? No, you could go back to the love connection.

Speaker 3 2:59

Nope, do you want to?

Speaker 2 3:00

know the Love Connection Nope.

Speaker 3 3:01

Do you want to know? Price is right, 1948.

Speaker 2 3:06

What was it?

Speaker 3 3:07

Candid Camera.

Speaker 2 3:08

Ooh, which they then spun off into America's Funniest Home Videos and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 3:14

Yeah, I guess there was a bunch of different varieties of that show, but yeah, there weren't. Obviously there was less.

Speaker 2 3:22

What was the catchphrase on Candid Camera? You're on Candid Camera on a camera.

Speaker 3 3:27

You're on candid camera. Smile, you're on candid camera. There you go. So cops was a reality tv show didn't watch it you've never watched cops, I not once yes, but not where I'm like. Oh god, yeah, let's, let's just make sure I get, let's set my dvr to this agree, I never sat and watched it every week or anything like that.

Speaker 2 3:45

I didn't put the tape in the VCR and like oh program record.

Speaker 3 3:49

Okay, I agree. Obviously, I think the first one that most people think about is what the real world right.

Speaker 2 3:56

That's the one I thought of when you said the first one ever. That's what I really think it was a reality TV show. Candid Camera yes, I can agree that was, but I wouldn't have put it as a reality show Because there were people doing things out in the streets where they just asked people questions Right, yeah. I guess that could be considered reality TV, but in this day and age.

Speaker 1 4:19

It really took off.

Speaker 2 4:20

Yeah, what I would consider reality TV would be the start of the real world. Right, that's where I think it started. Personally and honestly, I liked the real world. I did yeah.

Speaker 3 4:31

I did too.

Speaker 2 4:32

I thought it was fun to watch and whatever. Then it started getting verbose.

Speaker 3 4:36

Now there's like a million and stupid.

Speaker 2 4:38

And then they brought in road rules.

Speaker 3 4:41

Oh, the challenges.

Speaker 2 4:42

And the challenges I like the challenge stuff. That's so dumb and scripted and it's not even reality because they script it.

Speaker 3 4:49

You think all of these are scripted Survivor.

Speaker 2 4:52

Ever watch Survivor. Survivor is definitely scripted.

Speaker 3 4:55

You think so?

Speaker 2 4:59

You think they're actually going to take the liability of sticking people out in nature and then letting them sit there with nothing.

Speaker 3 5:03

Yes, it's scripted, they do have.

Speaker 2 5:04

Who was the guy Always get somebody in to, was it David?

Speaker 3 5:07

Hatch.

Speaker 2 5:08

Hatch, william Hatch, roger Hatch.

Speaker 3 5:12

The one that went multiple times or something.

Speaker 2 5:14

No, he won the first one and he went bankrupt and he was tax evasive.

Speaker 3 5:19

I kind of recall it.

Speaker 2 5:21

His last name was Hatch, I think you're right on the Hatch.

Speaker 3 5:23

I don't remember his first name. I can't remember his first name.

Speaker 2 5:26

Anyway, they scripted him to win. I don't think so. It's television, it's television.

Speaker 3 5:32

They edit a lot of things.

Speaker 2 5:33

They are not going to let anything happen, just anything.

Speaker 3 5:37

Agree, they have the medics come in. You don't watch it frequently enough.

Speaker 2 5:41

I don't because it's stupid.

Speaker 3 5:42

They do make people leave sometimes. Who?

Speaker 2 5:45

How many people have?

Speaker 3 5:45

left.

Speaker 2 5:47

They have had people leave for illnesses and things you don't think that was scripted.

Speaker 3 5:50

I don't know, I don't think so. No, I didn't think so.

Speaker 2 5:53

Alright? No, you didn't, because it was written into the show. What about?

Speaker 3 5:56

The Amazing Race. Have you ever watched the Amazing Race? That's actually who the hell wants to run run. You've never watched the amazing race, have you?

Speaker 2 6:03

it's not about running it's about racing no I don't watch nascar either it's not about racing what's it about? Have you ever?

Speaker 3 6:10

called the american race. It's the amazing race what the amazing race. And you don't have a cell phone or any of all of those things, that you have a partner and they have clues and whoever can get through, but they go to all different countries. It's cultural, they learn all sorts of things, so it's almost an educational thing.

Speaker 1 6:27

Wow, way to spin that one. Seriously, though, you should watch it. You know what else I?

Speaker 3 6:32

should watch it. It's a challenge, week by week, so I did watch.

Speaker 2 6:35

Not all of them. I've not watched it. What did you get out of watching the Amazing Race?

Speaker 3 6:39

It's entertaining for me.

Speaker 2 6:40

You do learn different things from different cultures. What did you learn from it?

Speaker 3 6:44

I can't think of one specific thing.

Speaker 2 6:46

Okay, Then why are you trying to? You know how are you trying to shop this to me right now? How are you trying to sell it to me where I should watch it, I think?

Reality TV Versus Scripted Entertainment

Speaker 3 6:51

the people that are on it and it's entertaining to watch, and you kind of. Obviously there's always drama attached, because otherwise people wouldn't watch it. Entertainment and script. You think it's scripted? I don't think it's scripted. Oh, a hundred percent.

Speaker 2 7:10

It wouldn't be on TV if it wasn't. Do you really think the big networks that put these shows out don't have a say in what happens and how it happens?

Speaker 3 7:18

They probably do, but I still think it's not completely scripted. I don't believe that it's all scripted Okay. That's fine, you don't have to there's two um the people that won amazing race two or three years ago. Maybe they are known on like facebook tiktok. They do these songs and things. You'd probably actually recognize them and they won the amazing race and I don't think it was all scripted did you watch the uh roast of tom brady? Yes, I did watch pretty funny right yeah that's reality tv, I correct.

Speaker 3 7:50

I don't know if that would be considered reality TV. Yes, it's real. Do you think that's reality TV?

Speaker 2 7:56

Any roast like that, especially what Comedy Central was putting out, the roasts those are more reality TV than what they put out on the major networks. Nikki Glaser is flat out, hands down amazing and I love her. I think she's hilarious, I love her act, I love her personality. I just I think she's great. She killed it, and to show you how this is not scripted is Rob Gronkowski's entire antics on that roast. You weren't going to stop him from doing that.

Speaker 3 8:25

Oh, so you're saying that that was not scripted, that was not scripted. Okay.

Speaker 2 8:29

They had no idea what was coming. They didn't want anything being said about yourself the entire time, and they just kept knocking it.

Speaker 3 8:37

I did see that.

Speaker 2 8:37

That was also Netflix. Right, it wasn't a major channel, so you can get away with a lot more for it being on Netflix than you can. I mean, they were swearing, they were saying dirty jokes and whatever. You won't do that on a regular reality show, but that was a reality show. The ones that are on TV are scripted, planned out and made to seem like they were reality. Chip and Joanna I love them. I love them too. I love them too, but that's scripted. That is a reality show I did watch.

Speaker 3 9:11

And I still do from time to time. I I think a lot of things are edited, obviously to fit it into the hour or whatever it is. I don't think absolutely everything they do is scripted. They were doing that before they made a TV show. I've actually read some of their books.

Speaker 2 9:22

That's fine. I think that if I was to watch any reality television, it would be their show.

Speaker 3 9:28

Right.

Speaker 2 9:28

I think they're. I know they're making a TV show and I know the channel HGTV has a say in what happens on it. So it is mildly scripted and I can tell you a story of why I know this. I'm sure, but Chip and Joanna had a way of their. Interaction between each other was fun, it was pleasant. She was a sweetheart, he was a good dude. It's like there wasn't any real drama. The only drama they had was what was wrong with the house.

Speaker 3 9:53

Exactly.

Speaker 2 9:54

What they had to fix. They didn't see, quote unquote those are air quotes for those of you listening, but the way they went through it was just pleasant. You wanted to watch it. Yeah, it felt good to watch. There's still a lot. You didn't want to watch it for the negativity, like oh my god, she's sleeping with him and he's sleeping with her and they're sleeping together.

Speaker 3 10:14

Correct. It doesn't always have to be everybody fighting, but that's the way they put it.

Speaker 2 10:18

on regular TV there's some sort of major drama Like the Bachelor. Forget that nonsense. How many other Bachelors have actually made out?

Speaker 3 10:31

Like not made out but worked out One One. That's it. Actually, I think it was the bachelorette, Wasn't she the bachelorette? Trisha, or something?

Speaker 2 10:37

I can't even think how many of the bachelors made out I don't know that any of them are actually still married. There you go. How many of the bachelore Would you say? There's over 50 seasons combined, Combined probably 25 each maybe, yeah, maybe 40 seasons.

Speaker 3 10:55

Yeah, one made it, maybe more than one. I can't hold myself back.

Speaker 2 11:00

Horseshit, Absolute horseshit. They're all gold digging. I want to be famous nerds.

Speaker 3 11:07

I'm sorry, when it first started that those types of shows were just. I don't think when they first started that it came out that it was just them trying to be famous. Now I think you can tell more frequently now when people even come out and they're introduced on these shows what were they on the show? Already they've already got instagram accounts and all sorts of social media that they're already promoting themselves. I think that that I watched a lot of Love is Blind. They're all already on social media promoting themselves.

Speaker 2 11:37

So you're arguing my point.

Speaker 3 11:39

Now, I don't think it was before. I think it's become more of a thing now.

Speaker 2 11:43

Well before. Why did they go on the show the only show I can honestly say I don't think they really got into it to be famous, they just wanted to be on TV would be the Real World, Because they had no idea whether it was taking off or not. It was so brand new, they didn't know what that was, Other than that every other person on every other show was in it to be famous.

Speaker 3 12:03

I don't think there's cooking shows. I don't think people are trying to be famous.

Speaker 2 12:07

That's not on a major network.

Speaker 3 12:08

There's lots of cooking competitions.

Speaker 2 12:10

On what.

Speaker 3 12:11

Hell's Kitchen MasterChef.

Speaker 2 12:13

Now, now the reality TV shows have become so popular.

Speaker 3 12:17

They weren't there in the beginning. Oh, in the beginning, okay, I said and now they're only there, because people want to get on the show to become famous. And I'm saying that cooking people, I don't feel like that's the same thing. Because they get chef jobs at the end. I don't think they're looking to be famous. They're looking to become a chef at some great restaurant that make a ton of money.

Speaker 2 12:35

Oh, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 12:36

They're not necessarily famous.

Speaker 2 12:38

They're on the show.

Speaker 3 12:40

They are chefs.

Speaker 2 12:41

I believe they're chefs. Anyway, I don't even know.

Speaker 3 12:43

No, I think they are.

Speaker 2 12:44

They could be. How do I know? I'm not there to look at the resumes, but they're on the show. They could be just actors, and who knows who creates all that stuff. If you ever watch the local news, every once in a while they have a segment where people come in to cook and everything's already made. How?

Speaker 3 12:59

do you know that person made that stuff? I actually know somebody that's done that and they actually are a person who did it.

Speaker 2 13:04

I know several people and people pay to go on there.

Speaker 3 13:07

They pay to go on there.

Speaker 2 13:08

Yes, I didn't know that it's like advertising for themselves, for their restaurants or whatever, but it's all set and ready to go. How do I know they made?

The Impact of Reality TV

Speaker 3 13:16

it Right. I don't know that. Everybody's trying to be famous is all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 13:23

And the talent competitions. I mean for people that go on these competitions In this country. Everybody is always trying to be famous, Everyone be famous, Everyone, no matter what I'm not trying to be famous. Then what are you doing here?

Speaker 3 13:30

Are you trying to be famous?

Speaker 2 13:31

Kind of. I started a podcast.

Speaker 3 13:35

Yeah, I'm not trying to be famous, I'm just trying to have fun.

Speaker 2 13:38

This is definitely not going to get us famous.

Speaker 3 13:40

So I think maybe sometimes it's not. Yes, people want to be famous. It's talent competitions. They want to be famous, but is that the worst thing? That's how people get found sometimes. Look at Carrie Underwood. Did you know who she was before American Idol?

Speaker 2 13:53

I'll tell you what Carrie Underwood was found before American Idol.

Speaker 3 13:56

When? Who knew her before American Idol?

Speaker 2 13:58

That's why she was on the auditions. Every single winner was on the audition episodes.

Speaker 3 14:03

Well, of course they were in the audition episodes.

Speaker 2 14:05

And then they put her in a bunch of losers.

Speaker 3 14:08

Right, they ended all that after what was?

Speaker 2 14:10

it. 16 contestants started American Idol. I don't know the number. You're on your way to Hollywood, you're going to Hollywood, you're going to. There were 16, I believe. Right, right, I could be wrong on that, but I think it was 16. Anyway, all those 16 people were on the auditions. Did you ever see it? Like they're in New Orleans, there's like 4,000 people, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 14:30

There's 4,000 people in Oklahoma, there's 4,000 people in Minneapolis, there's 4,000 people in Las Vegas. Of course, out of all that, these 16 people that made it to the Hollywood round were on the audition tapes.

Speaker 3 14:42

Well, or on the audition tapes. Well, they probably video all of them. They do, and they just cut it down to whatever people they actually use for the show.

Speaker 2 14:48

So they already know who's going to the show.

Speaker 3 14:50

Well, no. They record it all as it's going, and then they cut it down and put those.

Speaker 2 14:56

No, they already have them found and they tell them to go sing in the auditions and they put them on there.

Speaker 3 15:02

I don't think so, so, carrie.

Speaker 2 15:03

Underwood was already found.

Speaker 3 15:05

I don't think so.

Speaker 2 15:05

Absolutely.

Speaker 3 15:07

No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 15:08

Okay, even the runner-ups, even all the runner-ups Bo Bice Daughtry.

Speaker 3 15:14

Daughtry won, didn't he?

Speaker 2 15:15

I don't know who won. I can't remember who won I know I don't remember. But the people that were recognized from coming out of that show, they were on the auditions.

Speaker 3 15:23

They're all in the auditions.

Speaker 2 15:25

No, they're not. They're not all in the auditions. Every single person that actually made it to Hollywood was on the auditions. Of course that's correct, right, because it was meant to be like that.

Speaker 3 15:36

Because they had to audition to get there.

Speaker 2 15:39

They told them to go on in an audition. They already knew they were going to go to Hollywood to go on in an audition. They already knew they were going to go to Hollywood?

Speaker 3 15:46

I don't think so.

Speaker 2 15:46

Absolutely no. I don't think. So what's the audition if you're?

Speaker 3 15:48

actually finding talent.

Speaker 2 15:49

They just padded it out with a bunch of other people that couldn't sing like William O.

Speaker 3 15:54

Oh boy.

Speaker 2 15:55

Shebang, shebang, shebang. And who was that other guy? I think there were a lot the general there, lloyd something. Walk I think there were a lot the general there, lloyd something. Lloyd, walk around with your pants on the ground. Hat turns highways. They just stuck people in there so you would watch.

Speaker 3 16:11

Well, yes.

Speaker 2 16:13

That's for the entertainment factor. They scripted it.

Speaker 3 16:15

I don't think the whole thing is scripted. I think they do it all and then I think they get through it all and then they make their first episodes and they take which auditions they want to put in the episodes, because obviously what you're saying is absolutely correct.

Speaker 2 16:28

What you're saying is absolutely correct, but they already had the 16 finalists going to Hollywood picked before the auditions.

Speaker 3 16:37

You can say that I don't believe that.

Speaker 2 16:38

It's 100% true?

Speaker 3 16:39

I don't think that's true. I really don't 100%. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 16:43

And I'm not even sure that America really got to vote on who won and who didn't.

Speaker 3 16:46

I don't, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 16:47

How do you know how many phone calls are in there?

Speaker 3 16:49

No clue on that one. I forgot that. That was even how they did it. Yeah, because it's stupid. Well, they're not, because all the shows aren't like that. I forgot that that was how American same way.

Speaker 2 17:00

I only watched one season of that and it wasn't even a full season.

Speaker 3 17:03

I don't really care for dancing, that's another one that's like that right, you have to call and vote, or something.

Speaker 2 17:09

Yeah, because who was the host of that? He had a game show, didn't he?

Speaker 3 17:13

I'm not sure of the host.

Speaker 2 17:15

I didn't realize that was coming up.

Speaker 3 17:17

I forgot about Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 2 17:19

God, what was his name? I'm pretty sure he either had a talk show or he had a game show and he was the host.

Speaker 3 17:26

Okay, and he was the host of Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 2 17:27

Okay, anyway, I feel like reality shows in general just are horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible for everyone involved, the viewers, the producers. Like look at that Nickelodeon stuff.

Speaker 3 17:40

What Nickelodeon?

Speaker 2 17:41

stuff, that documentary that came out on the set or behind the set, whatever it was called.

Speaker 3 17:45

That wasn't reality TV. Quiet on the set. Nickelodeon yes, it was. Oh, like you can't do that on television, double.

Speaker 2 17:50

Dare Mark Summers. All that stuff. You can't do that on television, all that stuff. And then they had iCarly and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 17:58

Those are filmed.

Speaker 2 17:59

They're filmed. Yes, yes, there were problems and they're not true.

Speaker 3 18:03

I don't think that that all has to do with reality TV, though I think that's just the TV entertainment industry. That has a lot of issues and things that went on, that shouldn't have gone on and probably still do.

Speaker 2 18:15

What good does reality TV do I?

Speaker 3 18:18

think not all shows, obviously. I mean the Kardashians are famous.

Speaker 2 18:26

The Kardashians are famous because their father got OJ Simpson off on murder charges.

Speaker 3 18:29

That's why you think that if they didn't have their show, you think they would still be famous.

Speaker 2 18:33

They have a show because of their father. So the Kardashians are fucking useless as human beings. They're awful. They're awful specimens, and that's part of the first people that should be flown into space.

Speaker 3 18:47

Flown into space and left there, and left there.

Speaker 2 18:49

It's space trash.

Speaker 3 18:51

I think the talent stuff is actually cool and I think because people have come out of that and have done really well and I don't think that's bad, that's a family TV. Kelly Clarkson, carrie Underwood they have made a huge career. A lot of Chris Daughtry all these people you've already mentioned have made careers out of starting on these shows, you do realize that they built a show around those people. Okay, so does that make it a bad thing though?

Speaker 2 19:15

Those people are coming out anyway.

Speaker 3 19:16

They're going to be semi quasi, whatever, famous, even though, whether they have the show or not, and for people to sit home and watch and see these kind of things happen and have dreams and hopes.

Speaker 2 19:26

Back to the question. I don't think that's wrong. Back to the question. What good does reality TV do?

Speaker 3 19:33

Like I said, I think that's a good thing that some people can get careers and stuff out of it. I said that.

Speaker 2 19:39

They're going to have the careers either way, whether they have a reality show or not. El way, whether they have a reality show or not, elton John never had a reality show Lots of people yeah.

Speaker 3 19:45

I get that, but you still have to be found somehow, and that's not as easy as you think, apparently.

Speaker 2 19:50

I understand that, but this is what Simon Cowell's whole thing was for American Idol he found the people that could be stars, that had talent, and put them on the show and made a huge success in the show.

Speaker 3 20:03

Right.

Speaker 2 20:04

But he built a show around these people. It wasn't these people. They didn't make it because of the show. They were going to make it anyway because Simon Cowell had already found them.

Speaker 3 20:15

Well, you could look at what you could consider, maybe trashy TV and think the people from the Jersey Shore probably would have been nothing without the show.

Speaker 2 20:23

They are nothing.

Speaker 3 20:25

Pauly D has a huge. He's like a DJ all over the place in Vegas and everything. He probably would have been nobody before that he's still nobody.

Speaker 2 20:34

Do you think anybody really takes him seriously?

Speaker 3 20:37

I like Pauly D. Oh God, I think that. Listen, I think certain things and it's entertainment. You watch movies that are senseless. What is the difference?

Speaker 2 20:47

The people that I watch, the movies that I watch those people are actually A-listers.

Speaker 3 20:53

Not all of them.

Speaker 2 20:54

Which movie do I watch? That isn't an A-lister.

Speaker 3 20:56

I mean, you're going to watch a lot of movies. Every single person in every movie you watch is an A-lister.

Speaker 2 21:04

Name one movie that doesn't have an A-lister in it.

Speaker 3 21:06

I don't know right now, I can't think of this off the top of my head, okay, but I don't think that's true. But I think it's still entertaining, pauly.

Speaker 2 21:13

D from Jersey Shore is not an A-lister. I didn't say he was an A-lister, but you're telling know how well he's doing. Maybe he's killing it, maybe he's not, I don't know. But if he was killing it he wouldn't have to come back for the revivals of the Jersey Shore episodes.

Speaker 3 21:30

Doesn't come back as many times as you'd think now. But yeah, I hear you on that. But I still think it's entertaining and I don't think it's bad. I think the people that have been on them have probably done better than they would have necessarily.

Speaker 2 21:42

How many times has the Rock wrestled since he became famous in movies? I?

Speaker 3 21:47

don't know, was he at all? I don't know.

Speaker 2 21:49

I forgot that about the Rock Probably five or six times. Okay, he basically headlines WrestleMania Right. And that's his legacy. They have like a legacy pass Right Like Hulk Hogan comes back once in a while, it doesn't matter. The Rock, steve Austin, all those guys Undertaker, they all do that and that's their legacy. They've made it that far, it's like a Hall of Fame Okay. But since then he doesn't come back and wrestle, he doesn't come back to reality TV and wrestling is reality.

Speaker 3 22:16

TV. Well, did reality TV get him to where he is? Do you think the Rock would be as popular as the Rock is without reality TV?

Speaker 2 22:24

Absolutely.

Speaker 3 22:25

I don't think so.

Speaker 2 22:26

Maybe some of the other guys know Maybe not Hulk Hogan, but the Rock. Let's face it, the Rock just has it.

Speaker 3 22:34

He does, but he is the Rock because of reality TV.

Speaker 2 22:40

He was not the Rock anywhere else. Okay, what other character from reality TV has achieved anything like the Rock? Maybe Carrie Underwood? I'll give you that one.

Speaker 3 22:50

Those, the American idols, are pretty big.

Speaker 2 22:53

That was actually a pretty good show.

Speaker 3 22:55

Yeah.

Speaker 2 22:55

Survivor was pretty entertaining too, except for they scripted it. I like Survivor.

Speaker 3 23:00

And I think it's family.

Speaker 2 23:02

It is, but I don't know about family.

Speaker 3 23:05

You can watch it with your family. I guess is what I'm saying. Those are more family. I can put it on and I have to think about what the kids are seeing, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 23:13

Yeah, I don't know about wrestling Eh.

Speaker 3 23:16

I don't know, I never was really big into wrestling, honestly this time, but a lot of kids are.

Speaker 2 23:21

This ties back into the episode I did with Keebler where I said Vince McMahon is going to be the next commissioner of the NFL.

Speaker 1 23:28

Oh right.

Speaker 2 23:29

And because the NFL has I don't know degraded itself to being a sports entertainment company now.

Speaker 3 23:35

Right, they changed their like category or something. Yeah.

Farewell to Season One

Speaker 2 23:39

I'm going with it. It's entertainment. It's entertainment, now, it's not a sport. Uh-huh, it's entertainment, now it's not a sport. They've taken it out. Anyway, we are getting to the end here. We're cruising along.

Speaker 3 23:47

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 23:48

Well, this is what happens when you're not around that much anymore. Oh right, it's never around it's summer, we have sports and stuff.

Speaker 3 23:56

It's almost over for a little bit.

Speaker 2 23:58

Yeah.

Speaker 3 23:58

Short breaks for sports.

Speaker 2 24:01

Good for you. Anyway, thanks for coming and hanging out with me.

Speaker 3 24:05

Thanks for having me Miss your face, sister. Yeah.

Speaker 2 24:07

All right Case. We're getting to the end. Here we are. This was a good episode. Hope everybody enjoys it and, you know, thanks for listening guys. We're coming back bigger and stronger than the second half of this year, so at this point, be good.

Speaker 1 24:27

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