What if the people shaping our future earned as much as the ones entertaining us? In this episode, we humorously dive into the age-old debate of whether teachers should earn as much as athletes. We'll explore the significant pay disparities and argue that educators, who nurture and educate our children, deserve better compensation. We shine a light on the critical role that teachers play in shaping future generations and highlight the demanding nature of their jobs. Through this thought-provoking discussion, you'll reconsider the value we place on those who dedicate their lives to educating our kids.
As we critically examine the current state of the world, we discuss the impacts of greed and the challenges faced within the education system. Overcrowded classrooms and lack of support make the teaching profession even more demanding, yet teachers continue to work tirelessly. We share personal reflections and stories of memorable teachers who have left lasting impressions on our lives. Drawing powerful parallels between the honor given to military personnel and the respect educators deserve, this episode serves as a heartfelt tribute to the incredible work teachers do every day.
Come back every Tuesday for a new episode each week. You won't be dissappointed, I'll tell you that for free. Subscribe and like us over at sockeytome.com as we begin the best part of our journey into podcasting yet, interacting with all of you. Give us your email as we begin to have more promotions and contests along with my personal favorite, trivia. Thanks everyone and as always, be good.
What if the people shaping our future earned as much as the ones entertaining us? In this episode, we humorously dive into the age-old debate of whether teachers should earn as much as athletes. We'll explore the significant pay disparities and argue that educators, who nurture and educate our children, deserve better compensation. We shine a light on the critical role that teachers play in shaping future generations and highlight the demanding nature of their jobs. Through this thought-provoking discussion, you'll reconsider the value we place on those who dedicate their lives to educating our kids.
As we critically examine the current state of the world, we discuss the impacts of greed and the challenges faced within the education system. Overcrowded classrooms and lack of support make the teaching profession even more demanding, yet teachers continue to work tirelessly. We share personal reflections and stories of memorable teachers who have left lasting impressions on our lives. Drawing powerful parallels between the honor given to military personnel and the respect educators deserve, this episode serves as a heartfelt tribute to the incredible work teachers do every day.
Come back every Tuesday for a new episode each week. You won't be dissappointed, I'll tell you that for free. Subscribe and like us over at sockeytome.com as we begin the best part of our journey into podcasting yet, interacting with all of you. Give us your email as we begin to have more promotions and contests along with my personal favorite, trivia. Thanks everyone and as always, be good.
Speaker 1:
Hey everybody, welcome to SakiTumi. Sakitumi, welcome to our show. Make sure you like and subscribe over at SakiTumicom after the show. Thanks a lot, guys. Welcome to today's episode. Why settle for a gold star when our teachers deserve the gold medal? Tune in as we humorously tackle the debate on why those shaping our future should earn just as much as those chasing the ball. Hey everybody, it's Dado. We're back here with another episode of Socky Doobie, that little guy in the front. You know in the beginning of the show, socky Doobie, the little creature. The little creature, he's a cool dude man. He's a haircut, but he's a cool dude. So I'm here with my girl, t-bot. Hey, hey, and we're going to talk about teachers against athletes.
Speaker 2:
Well, I wouldn't say that's.
Speaker 1:
No, it's the salaries. Yes, we're talking about salaries, exactly. And who deserves what Right? So, at this point, what do you think? You think teachers should be paid like athletes?
Speaker 2:
I'm not saying teachers deserve $3 million a year. I'm just saying they need to be paid more for what they do with children these days. Why? Because the children are being taught how to be kids, how to respect kids, how to learn things in the world.
Speaker 1:
I just want to start this episode off by saying I am pro-teacher.
Speaker 2:
Okay, well, go ahead Good.
Speaker 1:
Why do they deserve more?
Speaker 2:
Because they have to put up with a lot. I mean, I was in the school systems and it's basically babysitters. Whose fault is that? It's because we love children, that's not really where I was going Well. It's not anyone's fault. It's just you choose to be a teacher, so it's not anyone's fault. You just love being around kids, so it's a profession you want to go in.
Speaker 1:
I didn't ask you why you wanted to be a teacher. I asked you whose fault it was that they have such a tough time.
Speaker 2:
Oh, because the kids are nightmares.
Speaker 1:
Why are the kids nightmares?
Speaker 2:
From their parents.
Speaker 1:
And why aren't there?
Speaker 2:
more teachers. That's because maybe parents don't want their kids being brought up in a decent world these days, and parents don't care anymore, so they shove their kids off to school and have other people teach them, raise them.
Speaker 2:
So teachers should be paid more like daycare people daycare providers where each parent pays $200 a week for the kid to go to school. Well, daycare is, I think, a little different than teachers Do daycares really teach kids? Are you serious, or are they just watching their kids? Yes, don't look at me like that. Like there's a difference between daycare and a teacher, I think.
Speaker 1:
A daycare provider is almost better than a teacher in ways, Okay how? First of all, they're much younger. That's not true.
Speaker 2:
Because there's teachers that are right out of college that go into being a teacher.
Speaker 1:
I'm talking about the kids. Oh oh, oh oh. The kids are much younger and they're much more. They're learning things. Okay, like their capacity to absorb information is much bigger at that point. Now don't get me wrong Kindergarten first, second, third grade, they're pretty much the same. Yeah, correct, but the very beginning of these kids' lives they're with somebody else. So, absolutely, are these daycare providers teaching kids things?
Speaker 2:
I guess you couldn't call teachers daycare providers in some way.
Speaker 1:
They are daycare providers, and that's what I just said. They should be paid more like daycare providers.
Speaker 2:
Okay, I mean, I don't know how much a daycare provider makes versus a teacher, honestly Is it because the teachers have master degrees and daycare. People don't. I don't know the difference.
Speaker 1:
I'm pretty sure it's more than this at this point, but let's just use some round numbers. Okay, each child it's $200 a week for that person to go to a daycare. Okay, you can have up to six kids. Okay, that's $1,200 a week. Yeah, right, now you gotta pay taxes and insurance, sure, and all the state regulations and whatever Right the red tape, if you want to call it that. Yeah, so let's just say you have $1,000. Mm-hmm, that's $52,000 a year. Mm-hmm, right, right, round numbers the average pay, that's six kids.
Speaker 2:
That's six kids, six children Children, usually in classrooms are $20 to $25.
Speaker 1:
Okay, okay, so now let's just say that the average pay for a teacher public schools, the teachers, let's just say the average salary is 60 grand. Okay, they have 20 to 25 kids for 60 grand, exactly you can make 52,000 having six kids.
Speaker 2:
Yes, okay, I see where you're going with this, but I think I don't think public I mean public schools also pay for your education. I mean, I'm sorry, your insurances you get there's per diem rates, there's 10 year. I don't think daycare providers have that. I haven't really looked into that because I was looking more at teachers.
Speaker 1:
So what's the top? What's basically the top average salary of a teacher?
Speaker 2:
I'm probably thinking around $80,000 to $90,000. $80,000 to $90,000. And that's top, though that's maybe even like administrative and I'm not even sure that's administrative or teachers with like 20 years in, I think right out of college. I don't think they're getting any more than $25,000 to $30,000 a year.
Speaker 1:
Oh, they're getting more than that. I don't think they're getting any more than $25,000 to $30,000 a year. Oh they're getting more than that? I don't think so. They probably start at $45,000 to $50,000. I don't think so. I'm sure they do, but anyway it doesn't matter, because people aren't going into teaching anymore because there's no money in it. That's sad and there's no reason to be a teacher anymore.
Speaker 2:
I know. No reason is because who's going to teach these kids? Who's going to educate these kids?
Speaker 2:
I mean, that's what I'm saying they should be paying these teachers a lot of more money. They only work 181 days a year Well right, but athletes only maybe work half that time too and get paid $3 million or $7 million a year. For what Entertainment? For what you think? I'm going to throw this out there. Give me a minute. Do you think that LeBron James or Tom Brady would have ever been noticed if he didn't go to school and have a teacher teach him? What would he have done?
Speaker 1:
It's got to be a rhetorical question, because there's no answer to that. How do I know that they had teachers?
Speaker 2:
Oh, come on, how do you want me to answer that? I'm pretty sure LeBron James and Tim Brady had an education. Tim Brady I'm sorry Tom, I don't care, I don't like him. That's why Tom Brady had an education. But I'm saying they probably started in schools like football.
Speaker 1:
Charles Manson had an education.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, he was not a.
Speaker 1:
Do you think he would have gotten noticed if it wasn't for his?
Speaker 2:
teachers? Yeah, he probably would have, because he chose the path of being disastrous. So what are you saying I? So what are you saying? I'm just saying teachers should be paid a lot more money than what they're paying. What?
Speaker 1:
should they be paid?
Speaker 2:
I don't know, I don't think $7 million is a price, but I think athletes are overpaid anyway.
Speaker 1:
Athletes have to maintain a persona. Okay, and that's difficult to do. It's hard because you become isolated. True, you can't go anywhere, you can't do anything. You're stuck, basically, when True, you can't go anywhere, you can't do anything. You're stuck, basically, when you're LeBron James or Michael Jordan or Derek Jeter, it's hard to just go out and get pizza. You can't just go do that stuff. When you're a lower celebrity, you can do that stuff still.
Speaker 2:
Well, I mean it depends. I mean maybe they like that stuff, though Maybe they like being noticed. I wouldn't say that's all lonely life to live.
Speaker 1:
When you become somebody like LeBron James or Michael Jordan or Joe Montana or Tom Brady. You've given that up.
Speaker 2:
You've given it up, but it makes a ton of money, so that's what makes me happy.
Speaker 1:
If that's what makes you happy, fine, but these teachers can go out and get a pizza and they still you know, really, they still deal with it. These kids go. Oh my God, it's Mrs G, oh yeah, or oh, it's Mrs.
Speaker 2:
K or whatever. Right, you know what I mean. It's true, it makes them feel like celebrities. It does really In a little way.
Speaker 1:
But most of them are like oh God, I don't want to see any parents Right? I don't even think there's any rectification. You pay these teachers more. Our taxes go up. Are you going to pay more taxes? Well, they're also contributing to taxes.
Speaker 2:
Do athletes contribute to taxes Absolutely? Do they pay them, though? I mean there's not.
Speaker 1:
Yes, Well, most of them, okay. There are some, like Scottie Pippen, that didn't do it. Okay, see.
Speaker 2:
And who's the other guy that didn't do it? That's what I'm saying. Tax evasion, right, right. And I'm not saying teachers don't have that either, but I'm saying at least they're contributing to their tax situation because they're not as high as the athletes. You know what I mean. They're not as well-known or they're not as celebrities. Are people that take care of kids all the time. There's the it's free babysitting, yeah, but it also it's free babysitting Time out. Throw in the kids that are on the spectrum. You have to understand. It's a whole different kind of teacher.
Speaker 1:
Get rid of the spectrum.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, but that's how kids Some kids are like that, what do? You do. You're going to put the kids where, in a place where they just Do I say it, no, you don't Do I say it, no, no, you don't. You're not saying it at all. Don't say it, because, with an S hands in a wallow, what I'm saying to you is that that's a dedication to the child. Get rid of the spectrum.
Speaker 1:
You can't do the spectrum. Yes, you can. How? Because every single child is different.
Speaker 2:
Yes, they are. So how do you get rid of that? When some kids are, they need that extra help, they need those teachers to teach them.
Speaker 1:
You ever put a magnifying glass over an ant? No, but okay, what happens when you do that? It makes them big. No, it kills them. The sun going through the magnifying glass burns an ant. It makes them big. No, it kills them. The sun going through the magnifying glass burns them in. Oh, that's what you're doing with this spectrum. Every child has different needs. Correct, I get it. Every child does.
Speaker 2:
Every child is not lost.
Speaker 1:
Some are what you need is more teachers. Right, you need more teachers.
Speaker 2:
Back to the fact they don't pay Because no one wants to work for dealing with these kids on that level when they really want to do it. But they're not getting paid enough, so they get frustrated. Plus gotta understand too. Some of these um towns and states don't even pay them for supplies, so this comes out of their salary, which is already cheap to supply their classrooms.
Speaker 1:
It's a very hard episode to disagree with you, on, which I'm supposed to do my whole thing is make the people pay.
Speaker 2:
Great. Well, that's why they have PTOs and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:
No, forget PTOs, that doesn't do shit.
Speaker 2:
Well, it raises some money anyway.
Speaker 1:
No, the school should set up a GoFundMe for the teachers or something like that where people donate, oh, and then they can buy the supplies through that. That's a great idea. You go into a half privatized, half public institution kind of thing where the teacher's salaries are paid the same as they are now, but the public subsidizes it and pays the teachers the other half, so they get more. It would. It would attract more people. Exactly. It would have more teachers in the room, right. More more classrooms, yes. Less kids in the class, right. Less burnout because they are overwhelming these teachers every year more and more and more. Because there's fewer teachers, there are More are retiring, that are coming in Mm-hmm, and that's not a good thing. No, because teachers are the most valuable resource on this planet. It is, and we take advantage of it, granted, and something's got to be done on this. Now. Do they deserve to be paid like athletes? Hell, no, athletes don't deserve to be paid like athletes. Totally agree with you.
Speaker 2:
They are overpaid for doing something they love and entertaining everybody.
Speaker 1:
But they bring in so much money they demand that kind of restitution. So although teachers without bringing that kind of entertainment, value or not entertainment, entertainment but, uh, notoriety to it.
Speaker 2:
they deserve more than athletes do they do they do? I mean and here's another point too that these, some of these kids, because the classrooms are so big, they get pushed aside. They don't get the education they need, and then they, and then they um get like shoved into the system and sometimes they drop out because they're not getting education they get they deserve. So then they're out in this world of trying to find themselves and it's because there were so many kids in the classroom and not enough teachers.
Speaker 1:
If everybody, if everything stayed the way it is now and the towns and everything didn't have to raise taxes, could still pay for public school and everything's free and up to thing, and you could, and the parents had to pay, uh, subsidized the other half, yep, that's a great idea. Everything would go up, crime would go down, intelligence would go up, yes, and you could have more specialized classes for these people that you say you claim are quote unquote on the spectrum, right, and so maybe you could group them more into a group or a niche where they felt more comfortable and it was easier for them to learn exactly, but, or a niche where they felt more comfortable and it was easier for them to learn Exactly. But that doesn't happen. No, they're lumped in and then they become, because they don't get what they need. They become distractions, right, and problems, disruptions and problems, mm-hmm, and they're probably not even problems. No, but we are creating them, yes, because we're sticking them with 24 other kids that, don't do that.
Speaker 1:
And it's not their fault, it's not theirs. They don't even know what to do yet. No, they're five, six, eight years old. What the hell do they know about life? They don't know anything about life, nothing. And here, they are just pushing them through, pushing them through, and you can't figure a way to solve this problem. No, that's the problem. And bombs, and bombs that we haven't used Right.
Speaker 1:
We have a stockpile of weapons that we don't even know what the hell to do with or where they even. Let's just blow up the world and at least make it worth it. Right, right, right.
Speaker 2:
Just kill everybody. Well, let's not kill everybody, but that's the. I know where you're going. It's just disgusting how the world is right now. It wonder about not so much my kids but my kids' kids, like how that's going to happen in, like, say, 50 years from now.
Speaker 1:
Greed has legitimately just taken over the entire planet. Yes, the world Just straight up. Greed and everyone's miserable, miserable. Well, that's what happens. Like, let's say, you go fishing and you don't catch fish, are you happy? You throw your pole in the water and stomp away, and now you can't eat, and now you're hungry, which makes you more miserable.
Speaker 2:
Exactly.
Speaker 1:
Where, if the ponds and oceans and all the rivers were overstocked with all this gain and you caught a fish and you went home and ate, you're happy? Yes, but that's what they're doing. They're taking away everything slowly but surely, and I don't like it. It really blows up my skirt. I'll tell you that for free. Don't like it either.
Speaker 2:
I don't like it.
Speaker 1:
They're making it harder and harder for everything. It is, and you can see it, I know, in this goddamn internet. Oh, it's making everything worse and harder for teachers, I agree, because they have well that's not what it says on the internet. Hold up who the, except for our podcast listen to that.
Speaker 2:
That's on the internet. That's what you want to listen to. That's the only thing you want to listen to, because we are right and everyone else is wrong.
Speaker 1:
I promise you exactly, promise me, tell you that for free just listen to it.
Speaker 2:
yeah, it's sad. I just had to get that off my chest because I was really upset with the whole teacher thing and classrooms are overstocked, overstocked, and I know for a fact in the South that my daughter was in the classrooms and she got so upset one day because she was in 4th and 5th grade and some of these kids can't read, can't write and they're pushing them through the system because they just do not have room for them.
Speaker 1:
I would like to be that kid. It's like the toddler that can't use his words.
Speaker 2:
Right.
Speaker 1:
You know, it's like the toddler that can't use his words Right.
Speaker 2:
You know what I mean. Yes, what do you do? You can't use your words, you have a temper tantrum, you can't control yourself and that gets disrupted. That's the disruptive kid in the class and then gets pushed somewhere into a room and he just has a mental breakdown and it's the kid's fault.
Speaker 1:
Just because the poor kid is developing slower than other kids, exactly, it's not his fault, no, so how do you fix that? You take that kid, you subsidize it and you give a special class. Not a special class, just a class with more kids like him, exactly so he fits in better. And then you go. Now you could argue special ed. Special ed is not cut anymore.
Speaker 2:
Well, I don't think they even call it special ed anymore. I think there's another name. I've been out of the system for a while. I know it's not special ed.
Speaker 1:
Do I dare use the R word? No, okay, you do not use the R word. I'm going to shut you down on that one. I was using it for the parents. Yeah, no, because children aren't, it's the parents that are Well. It's having a tart and then having another tart. What did you do? I'm nothing.
Speaker 2:
You re-tart.
Speaker 1:
Couldn't help yourself. And look, those are the parents. It is the parents' fault. It's the parents' Because they're looking for everyone else to help them out and fix the kid. It's like shut your mouth, do it at your kid Exactly, do your job. Shut your mouth, do your job, jackass.
Speaker 2:
Take care of your kid Exactly. And the poor?
Speaker 1:
kids. I know, because most of them are sweet as hell. I know they are. They're sweet as pie. They're cute, I know. You have to fall in love with them more than any other.
Speaker 2:
The normal kids in class you're like get out of here, come here, little that field. You have to love the kids, like just love them, because you know you're not getting paid for it. So there's that admiration towards these kids that these teachers just want to help them and they know, they're not getting paid.
Speaker 1:
That's why it's such an honorable profession. It is an honor. If you tell me you're a teacher, it's like being in the military. Honestly, I think it might be a little bit higher than the military, only because I mean they're protecting us. Don't get me wrong. No, no, I don't think there's anything higher than the military, except for, maybe, teachers. Maybe. I don't even know if they're higher than the military, but teachers are that high up, yes, and that honored and that profound on your life. Right, like some of the greatest people in my life were teachers Agreed life. Right, like some of the greatest people in my life were teachers, I agree, and especially the teachers that everybody always said to me oh, this teacher's awful, she's so mean. Right, she's such, it's always a she. What the hell are these dudes? I know what are the dude teachers, I know. Anyway, she's mean, she's awful, a plus plus.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, a plus plus, and you remember them, though Like you remember them. How many years after you graduated college, you just remember those teachers that just made a lasting impression on your life.
Speaker 1:
I still have a crush. You did tell me that On my first grade teacher To this day.
Speaker 2:
No names, no names.
Speaker 1:
D-Nice. Go D-Nice, d-nice, that's where we're going to leave it Exactly. Yeah, that's where we're going to leave it Exactly.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1:
I don't know how you would do it. Teachers are in a bad way.
Speaker 2:
It's an uphill battle at this point and sometimes the parents will take their moods out on the teachers, Like why aren't you teaching my kid? What's wrong with my kid? Why are you segregating them?
Speaker 1:
I've said to my son specifically I do not care what happens, the teacher is always going to be right. I don't care. It's true.
Speaker 2:
Unless you can prove me wrong.
Speaker 1:
Exactly, the teacher is right, because they're not just picking on you. Right? They have 24 other kids to worry about to just sit there and waste their time picking on you. Exactly, you're obviously doing something wrong, mm-hmm, and that's what people don't do.
Speaker 2:
Oh, my kid would never do that. Oh, that's exactly the attitude that we have to deal with.
Speaker 1:
It doesn't sound like my kid Right, my kid would never do that. Oh, that's because you're too even want to pay attention to him, or you know, admit there's a problem exactly, and that's why the kid's eating glue and next thing you know he'll be sniffing glue and then he goes worse after that then he gets a Glock illegally and goes and holds up a convenience store for 80 bucks and gets killed right or in jail or kills kids on the campus. My kid would never do that. Well, your kid fucking did Exactly.
Speaker 2:
He did it, Admit it bro, why are you not taking responsibility at a young age?
Speaker 1:
Yeah, it blows my skirt up, really blows my skirt up. I'll tell you that for free.
Speaker 2:
Oh my.
Speaker 1:
God, everybody's got to point their fingers at everything but themselves. Forget it. Stop using your fingers. Use your fucking thumbs. Yep, this way, exactly what's got? Two thumbs and is awesome, this guy.
Speaker 2:
It's true. Kids would be different if the parents even pitched in and contributed to what you're trying to mold your child for this world. That's already awful. You don't want to have any factor in that.
Speaker 1:
I'm going to throw this out there on the podcast. You've seen me talk to my son, mm-hmm. And I'm going to throw this out there on the podcast. You've seen me talk to my son. And is it any way? Any normal parent talks to their children. It's totally normal no forget adorable. I said normal. No, I said normal. Oh, I thought you said adorable.
Speaker 2:
No, it is normal. You care about your kid, you care how he grows up. He grows up.
Speaker 1:
Right, he was outside yesterday trying to pick up some branches. He's like Dad, it's too hot, it's awful, I don't want to do this. I was like screw you, finish it or I'm not paying you. That's how this works. Right, you don't finish it, you don't get paid. Exactly, you did 73% of the money. No, that's not how this works. You didn't finish the job. You're not getting paid at all. Right, finish it. Yep, he was huffing and puffing and it was hot out. It was hot out yesterday. But he wanted that money. He did. He went and did it. He did. So, hey, what do I know? Look at me, I'm just Goodwill Hunting. I could answer that math equation on the blackboard. Really you could. I've been to Harvard several times. They've actually called me. I don't know if you know this?
Speaker 2:
I don't know that.
Speaker 1:
Harvard called me several times. They said would you mind enrolling? We want to bring up our GPA. I'm the only person on earth that has a 5.0. Wow, only person on earth, 5.0. Swear to God, this is no lie. Oh my gosh, you can look at my transcripts. I made them up yesterday. They're almost dry. They're almost dry. I can't right now. I can't even keep a straight face anymore. You're killing me. Oh, come on. Come on. Yeah, I was supposed to disagree with you on this one. Yeah, you know what, but I can't. I'm pro-teacher. Everybody needs to know that. I cannot go against teachers. I will not go against teachers.
Speaker 1:
No, I won't either, and so teachers are the greatest thing in this world. They are. Anybody that's out there that is a teacher. Thank you, and good for you. Keep going, just keep it up. I'll keep fighting to try and figure out how to get you guys paid. I don't know if it'll work, but I'll keep trying.
Speaker 1:
I know, Anyway, we're getting to the end, we're coming down. Hey, tell us what you think, like and comment. Sakitumicom, come on, that's the call of action. You all know what this is Head over. We had a little hiccup in our domain host and we figure that out. So now if you go there, you can actually like and subscribe and we'll get you on the email list and get you out all the information that's coming up. So thanks for checking in, thanks for being here, thanks for listening.
Speaker 2:
And, as always, be good. Hey everyone, it's Kat.
Speaker 1:
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