Could a mysterious figure at Trump rallies really be JFK Jr. in disguise? Join us as we explore the wild and intriguing conspiracy theory surrounding Vincent Fusca, a man many believe to be the late John F. Kennedy Jr. Our deep dive kicks off with a look into Fusca's obscure background, the circumstances around his supposed death in Pennsylvania, and the sparse information available about him today. We discuss the skepticism and myriad opinions that arise when considering such an elaborate deception.
In our spirited debate, we examine the striking physical resemblances between Fusca and JFK Jr., pondering whether changes in appearance from aging, plastic surgery, or hair dye could explain the similarities. We also delve into the motivations that may have driven JFK Jr. to fake his death, such as political connections to Donald Trump and the feasibility of remaining hidden for over two decades. The conversation uncovers a broad range of perspectives on the plausibility of this theory and the potential implications of such a high-profile cover-up.
Finally, we dissect the role of social media in propagating the Vincent Fusca conspiracy and why some people are drawn to believe in it despite its absurdity. We discuss the possible involvement of the so-called deep state and the connections to Trump's campaign that add layers of intrigue to the theory. As we wrap up, we reflect on the factors that lend credibility to this outlandish idea in the eyes of its believers, leaving you with much to ponder about this modern-day enigma.
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Could a mysterious figure at Trump rallies really be JFK Jr. in disguise? Join us as we explore the wild and intriguing conspiracy theory surrounding Vincent Fusca, a man many believe to be the late John F. Kennedy Jr. Our deep dive kicks off with a look into Fusca's obscure background, the circumstances around his supposed death in Pennsylvania, and the sparse information available about him today. We discuss the skepticism and myriad opinions that arise when considering such an elaborate deception.
In our spirited debate, we examine the striking physical resemblances between Fusca and JFK Jr., pondering whether changes in appearance from aging, plastic surgery, or hair dye could explain the similarities. We also delve into the motivations that may have driven JFK Jr. to fake his death, such as political connections to Donald Trump and the feasibility of remaining hidden for over two decades. The conversation uncovers a broad range of perspectives on the plausibility of this theory and the potential implications of such a high-profile cover-up.
Finally, we dissect the role of social media in propagating the Vincent Fusca conspiracy and why some people are drawn to believe in it despite its absurdity. We discuss the possible involvement of the so-called deep state and the connections to Trump's campaign that add layers of intrigue to the theory. As we wrap up, we reflect on the factors that lend credibility to this outlandish idea in the eyes of its believers, leaving you with much to ponder about this modern-day enigma.
Come back every Tuesday for a new episode each week. You won't be dissappointed, I'll tell you that for free. Subscribe and like us over at sockeytome.com as we begin the best part of our journey into podcasting yet, interacting with all of you. Give us your email as we begin to have more promotions and contests along with my personal favorite, trivia. Thanks everyone and as always, be good.
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 3:
Hello everyone.
Speaker 2:
She's sitting here with the mascot of the show little Maz Maz, Miss Maz Maz Mazzy star. Anyway, we're here with an episode about Vincent Fusca.
Speaker 3:
Get ready.
Speaker 2:
This guy is awesome, awesome, awesome. Okay, how the hell do you have no background story and become so popular?
Speaker 3:
I don't know, but it's absolutely insane.
Speaker 2:
He's JFK Jr.
Speaker 3:
He is.
Speaker 2:
Yes, he is, he definitely is Jr.
Speaker 3:
No, no way, he he is he definitely is JFK Jr. No, no way.
Speaker 2:
He most certainly is.
Speaker 3:
Absolutely not. You know, I really I'll listen to all the conspiracies, Some of them I'm into. This is a this is John.
Speaker 2:
John all grown up? No, yes, it is.
Speaker 3:
It doesn't even look like him.
Speaker 2:
It looks a lot like him.
Speaker 3:
He was like the sexiest man of the year and that's what he grew up to be. I don't think so.
Speaker 2:
Hey, a lot of guys peak early.
Speaker 3:
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:
Maybe that's why he faked his death.
Speaker 3:
Because he peaked early, so he decided to fake his death.
Speaker 2:
Maybe he knew he was going to be ugly, so he came back as this Vincent Fusca guy who, by the way, is fake.
Speaker 3:
You think his whole idea is fake.
Speaker 2:
I think he stole Vincent Fusca's real identity after Vincent Fusca died. Uh, I don't know. It's kind of like Yves Ventura with Ray Finkel.
Speaker 3:
Okay.
Speaker 2:
I'm serious.
Speaker 3:
Alright, well, do you want to explain to our audience what we're even talking about? Finkel is.
Speaker 2:
Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkel. Vincent Fusca is a personality that continuously shows up to the Trump rallies.
Speaker 3:
Right.
Speaker 2:
And nobody knows who he is.
Speaker 3:
But where did it come from?
Speaker 2:
Well, it came from a popular publicity company that made up this character.
Speaker 3:
I don't think so.
Speaker 2:
It's funny that he's become friends with Donald Trump. He gives no interviews, he doesn't talk to anybody and it's really hard to find any information on him. Everything that they do find is very superficial.
Speaker 3:
Right, but he ran for the Senate.
Speaker 2:
He ran.
Speaker 3:
And if he in reality is not actually Vincent Fusco.
Speaker 2:
He's not Vincent Fusco, he's JFK Jr.
Speaker 3:
Then he's not even eligible. He would be committing fraud by putting his name into the Senate as Vincent Fusca. You can't do that.
Speaker 2:
You can't fraud. I'm saying he took a name of somebody that died and started this. A man by the name of Vincent Fusca died in. Pennsylvania Right Right around the area where he claims to be from. He said he went to the University of Pennsylvania. He said he went to the University of Pennsylvania. He said he's from Pittsburgh. Everything lines up with this. And then the one time Trump attempted to be assassinated, he's standing directly behind him, for when he ducks.
Speaker 1:
Right, okay.
Speaker 2:
And if you want to go as far as getting to Karen Lippa's set, we can, but we won't. She was also in the crowd.
Speaker 3:
So when we first heard about this, I also thought it was one of the craziest things I've ever heard. Why there are so many things. First of all, why would JFK Jr have faked his death and stayed in hiding for what? 25-ish years almost?
Speaker 2:
Maybe they really needed him alive. For 20 years doing nothing Look the Kennedys have a history of being killed.
Speaker 3:
Okay.
Speaker 2:
Or at least killing people.
Speaker 3:
But everybody knew they were killed and none of them have come back so far.
Speaker 2:
They claim there's theories on that.
Speaker 3:
The theory came from a very far right conspiracy organization.
Speaker 2:
I guess you could say he died well before QAnon ever existed.
Speaker 3:
Exactly he did.
Speaker 2:
But now they believe it's him.
Speaker 3:
They're the only people that believe it's him. Is that one group? Very few people are believing this conspiracy.
Speaker 2:
Well then you've got to think about how strong that group is if they're putting this out there like that. It's out there because there's probably some truth to it.
Speaker 3:
You have to look for it. It honestly makes no sense. They found their bodies, they found the plane, they found the bodies, everything.
Speaker 2:
They found bodies.
Speaker 3:
They did.
Speaker 2:
If you died in a plane crash would you be in one peaceful intactment.
Speaker 3:
It depends. It depends on the situation.
Speaker 2:
If your plane crashed to the ground, would you expect to be completely whole when extracted from the wreckage.
Speaker 3:
I guess probably not, but you never know. I think certain people have survived plane crashes, so I'm not sure that we can actually make that determination.
Speaker 2:
I agree, some people have survived plane crashes. Right, most people have died.
Speaker 3:
They know exactly what happened to this plane, right, they tracked it the whole time. They know where it nosedived. They know why it nosedived.
Speaker 2:
Do they?
Speaker 3:
Yes, okay, off goes to Martha's Vineyard. I know where they claim it happened.
Speaker 2:
Yes, it was right here in our neck of the woods.
Speaker 3:
It was.
Speaker 2:
And when it happened, I believed it. I thought it was going to happen, I thought it was real.
Speaker 3:
I didn't think anything of it Now that this apparently came out. It was the president and they were stating that he was going to show up and be announced as Trump's VP. He did not show up or be announced at any of those things, nor through the entire pregnancy.
Speaker 2:
Pregnancy. Where are you going?
Speaker 3:
Residency.
Speaker 2:
Men can't get pregnant, you know.
Speaker 3:
That's a whole different topic. He was waiting for this entire thing for 20 years and then the opportunity he had for what they say is the reason he was waiting to make Trump president is possible and happening, and he still stayed in hiding for yet another four years. Why?
Speaker 2:
I don't know, that doesn't make any sense Makes.
Speaker 3:
no sense, at what point is he going to announce himself to be him?
Speaker 2:
To be who JFK Jr? Yes, he won't. Jfk Jr is dead.
Speaker 3:
So they're going to keep that. Everybody's just assuming that that's who that is Vincent Fusca.
Speaker 2:
Look man on the moon. Andy Kaufman played the greatest trick I've ever seen.
Speaker 3:
You could not tell if his alter ego known as Tony Clifton was real or fake.
Speaker 2:
That was like as a joke, almost as a joke, right People don't fake deaths as a joke.
Speaker 3:
For 20-something years, have you ever heard of Machiavelli.
Speaker 2:
How about Tupac, although I do think Tupac is actually dead?
Speaker 3:
I was going to say you think Tupac faked his death as well.
Speaker 2:
It's just funny that he always spoke of Machiavelli and then he died.
Speaker 3:
Okay.
Speaker 2:
But Machiavelli actually faked his own death.
Speaker 3:
I'm not saying people don't fake their own deaths.
Speaker 2:
There are plenty of people that do.
Speaker 3:
Exactly. But I don't see any benefit to JFK Jr faking his death and staying in hiding until now and then coming out as this weird. Italian guy. He's from Italy.
Speaker 2:
It hasn't benefited anything yet, but it might.
Speaker 3:
When.
Speaker 2:
And that's why they made him fake his death. That's why everybody told you he was dead. That way he can come back, not be a Kennedy and still live full. This is genius. This is after a fake assassination attempt. Now all this is going on. Well, it was going on before this.
Speaker 3:
It was going on well before this, but this is going on Well.
Speaker 2:
It was going on before this, it was going on well before this, but this is the whole story. This is what's going on, this is the ploy and this is the story, and this is basically where I think American politics are at right now.
Speaker 3:
Listen, I agree the politics thing is crazy, but this guy was actually born in Italy and moved to the US as a child.
Speaker 2:
By the way, Joe Biden is stepping down.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, what's that?
Speaker 2:
Ironic.
Speaker 3:
Not ironic. I expected that to be ironic. You don't see all these things adding up.
Speaker 2:
I mean, I guess, all of a sudden, vincent Fusca is coming out of nowhere, donald Trump has attempted to be assassinated and Biden steps down.
Speaker 3:
What in the is going on here. He's stepping out of the race. He's not stepping down as president, you should point that out.
Speaker 2:
Well, yes, he's not seeking re-election, correct? He can't anyway.
Speaker 3:
Unfortunately, this whole JFK-Vincent Fusca thing came out well before any of that started.
Speaker 2:
You got to start a story somewhere. You can't just start in the middle of stuff. You started well before, so you can build it up. That's what the story does.
Speaker 3:
I think it is the most insane conspiracy. I think the guy looks nothing like JFK Jr.
Speaker 2:
How would you know what JFK looks like 25 years later? I?
Speaker 3:
don't think it's that Italian guy.
Speaker 2:
They hit him, they sat him on a couch for 25 years and fed him bonbons.
Speaker 3:
He just sat in silence and secrecy.
Speaker 2:
What town in Italy was Fusca born in? I don't know Silence and secrecy.
Speaker 3:
What?
Speaker 2:
town in Italy was Fusca, born in. I don't know, that's right, you can't find it?
Speaker 3:
They're also saying he's like 20 years younger than JFK would have been.
Speaker 2:
Of course Look, without getting into details. Does he look 45? Does he look 46? No, not really. How old does he look 61?
Speaker 3:
Does he look 61? He does. I agree with that.
Speaker 2:
Okay, he looks 61 years old, and how old would JFK be right now?
Speaker 3:
Around 60, 61.
Speaker 2:
He'd be 61 years old.
Speaker 3:
Not tonight.
Speaker 2:
He does not look 46 years old. I'm sorry, I don't think they even have it's JFK I don't think they have the same facial features. It's Jon Jon dude.
Speaker 3:
Wait.
Speaker 2:
I don't have the same facial features I had when I was 21. Do you 20 years ago? I don't have the same facial features.
Speaker 3:
Do you actually think that he looks similar enough to JFK Jr?
Speaker 2:
Absolutely Really, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:
Because the group. I don't know if we're saying the name of that group.
Speaker 2:
You ever notice the forehead, why does? He think I wear the fedora all the time To hide the forehead.
Speaker 3:
They actually said that he would have had to have plastic surgery. That was one of the reasonings he doesn't look like JFK. That was one of the reasonings he doesn't look like JFK, because they even know he doesn't look like JFK.
Speaker 2:
How do you know he didn't have plastic surgery?
Speaker 3:
They're saying that he had to have plastic surgery. That's the group that created this whole conspiracy theory has said that he had to have plastic surgery to change his appearance for his safety. I don't buy any of it.
Speaker 2:
I think this is absolutely insane. You could sit in a hotel room, smoke pack upon pack of cigarettes a day, eat bonbons and change your appearance. You would not look like the people that remember you looking 25 years prior. I don't look like I did. I don't look like now what I looked like 25 years ago.
Speaker 3:
But that doesn't change actual prominent features that you have.
Speaker 2:
But if I died, 25 years ago and I came back right now, you'd say it wasn't me, because I don't look the same I don't know. I'm just saying you would. I don't see any benefit to it, every single person, every single person, is remembering JFK Jr, the way he looked then.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
You haven't seen him since.
Speaker 3:
But you can do side-by-sides and look at facial features and see that they don't have those.
Speaker 2:
If you put Fusca's face over JFK's face, they line up.
Speaker 3:
I don't think so. They do no.
Speaker 2:
In a weird way and it does look like Fusca may have had plastic surgery. I don't know.
Speaker 1:
Why is?
Speaker 2:
his hair so black too. It's so crazy.
Speaker 3:
He's 61 years old, true, but that's. People dye their hair. That means nothing to me. That's not a definitive yes or no, but actual facial features.
Speaker 2:
It would say that you're trying to change your appearance.
Speaker 3:
Well, people do that for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2:
It wouldn't help your explanation that you're not trying to change your appearance. You change your hair color, so you cannot. If you did that, how far did you go to get to where you are? How many other things did you change? We could tell you you did your hair. We don't know if you did your face, but you did your hair. So you can't say that you didn't do your face, because you're obviously trying to change your appearance it makes.
Speaker 2:
What doesn't make sense is the fact that you're arguing that it's not JFK Jr. What's the benefit? He's now running for office. He's supporting Donald Trump. Donald Trump originally said many, many, many years ago that if he ever ran for president, he would run as a Democrat.
Speaker 3:
Right.
Speaker 2:
Because they were stupid. That's what he said. Okay, those are basically his exact words.
Speaker 1:
Maybe summarized a bit.
Speaker 2:
Okay so, and they always asked him to run. They asked him to run, they asked him and he said no, no, no, no. Then, all of a sudden, he's like because of Barack, he ended up running.
Speaker 3:
Okay.
Speaker 2:
And he won, and good for him. Who else would you rather have on your side with all the connections than a Kennedy?
Speaker 3:
But he's not really a Kennedy anymore because he's been in hiding and has no connection to the family at this point, correct, there's no way that they kept him in hiding for 20 years and he's still acting like a Kennedy.
Speaker 2:
What is arguably the biggest conspiracy of all time.
Speaker 3:
I don't know what.
Speaker 2:
JFK's assassination.
Speaker 3:
Oh, okay, is that?
Speaker 2:
correct. You don't think this family knows how to navigate their way through a conspiracy. They are. They are the. They are the architects of the greatest one, or at least one of the greatest ones of all time I don't think how many shooters were there?
Speaker 3:
I don't know exactly.
Speaker 2:
No one does, no one will ever know, so why wouldn't it be jfk I?
Speaker 3:
really don't see any benefit to it and I don't see how anybody in that prominent of a family. Yes, do they have ways to cover things up? Sure, but how do you stay hidden for 20-something years? And again, if he were coming out to help Trump get elected, why didn't he show up four years ago?
Speaker 2:
Because they, the deep state, have a different timeline and plan for all of this.
Speaker 3:
Like when's he going to appear? 10 years from now, they'll announce who he really is.
Speaker 2:
Oh, he may never appear as JFK Jr again.
Speaker 3:
But this person doesn't have that big of an influence.
Speaker 2:
He's still a Kennedy.
Speaker 3:
He's just a person showing up that people notice now, but he's still a.
Speaker 2:
Kennedy, which would give him all the pull and influence he needs.
Speaker 3:
I don't think so, not if nobody knows he's a Kennedy.
Speaker 2:
The people that need to know he's a Kennedy. No, Everybody else discusses whether he is or isn't.
Speaker 3:
Wasn't Kennedy a Democrat?
Speaker 2:
He was. But did you ever read stuff on JFK? Not a lot. His policies were conservative Okay, he was more of a Republican than a Democrat. Okay, back then Republicans and Democrats were basically more alike than they are now Republicans and. Democrats were basically more alike than they are now, but his policies sided towards what now would be considered the Republican side. He was more of a conservative Democrat where Republicans would have gotten behind him, and that's probably why he was assassinated.
Speaker 3:
Right.
Speaker 2:
Where I think the same goes for Trump. To be honest, he was tempted to be assassinated because his policies aren't in line with what other people want to do. Right, and maybe that's why JFK Jr is alive and is running with Donald Trump and had to see which way the first four years went and how he did to see if a rerun, another campaign nomination went to stand behind him, and now Fusca's coming out.
Speaker 3:
But he's not running with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2:
He's not, but he's all over. He's all over Donald Trump's and he's right behind him. He's videoing the entire thing.
Speaker 3:
I agree, but I think part of it is that he's just a big Trump supporter and now he realizes that he's getting this attention, so he's kind of fit into it.
Speaker 2:
Then where is he from?
Speaker 3:
Pennsylvania. How did he grow up Italy?
Speaker 2:
That's all I know. It's all anybody knows. That's the point.
Speaker 3:
No, I did see some. They went to college somewhere. I mean there was.
Speaker 2:
He grew up in the US. He went to the University of Pennsylvania and they claimed he was in a fraternity. He was in a Hold on Phi Kappa Theta Okay.
Speaker 3:
I agree it's a little weird that you can't find a ton of info on him.
Speaker 2:
You would think a guy running for office because he doesn't exist.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, but then he can't run for office.
Speaker 2:
If you're a Kennedy, you have the pull and the influence to pull this off. That's the point. That's why it's definitely John John.
Speaker 3:
No way 100%.
Speaker 2:
I don't think it at all 100%.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, I would love to hear what other people say, because I can't even begin to believe this is a real thing.
Speaker 2:
It is. And then now this is crazy, and I'm not sure if this is true or not. This is even a little far beyond me, but there's a woman in the crowd, two seats over and one row in front of Vincent Fusca, that they claim has the exact facial features of Carolyn Bessette.
Speaker 3:
Was there a third person on the plane? Who was the third person?
Speaker 2:
Carolyn's sister.
Speaker 3:
Oh, where is she? Did she just die?
Speaker 2:
Well, she's not really necessary in this.
Speaker 3:
Is she alive too somewhere?
Speaker 2:
Then again, this would be the puzzle piece which is like is he alive? Is he not alive? Did he fake his own death? Did he not fake his own death? Because where is Her name, wasn't Jacqueline? Jacqueline was Kennedy's mom. Yeah, Her name was Carolyn and it began with a J.
Speaker 3:
I don't remember. I forget her name, but those were the three on the plane. If those two are alive, where's the third? She must be somewhere too right, or did they kill her?
Speaker 2:
She's probably the publicity coordinator. Vincent Fusca has a ton of publicity but he doesn't do any interviews. He doesn't deal with the media at all, but yet he's everywhere he won't answer questions he won't do anything. So it's like why is he so popular? How does he get to run for office? Why is he out there with no real information about it? Who could pull this off? You're.
Speaker 3:
Kennedy. I think it's.
Speaker 2:
Having political pull like that, you could probably do it.
Speaker 3:
No, no. I think if that was the case it already would have come out or something officially, not from just one far right.
Speaker 2:
You can't fake your death and then come out that you're alive. That's illegal, I believe.
Speaker 3:
So is running for office.
Speaker 2:
Somehow you haven't paid Kennedy's not running for office. Vincent Fusca is.
Speaker 3:
He's not running for office. Vincent Fusca is. He's not a real person either you're saying I'm saying it's Kennedy.
Speaker 2:
Yes, because you can't find anything on Fusca. I'm saying that Kennedy is probably alive, but you can't say you're John Kennedy because you're dead.
Speaker 3:
So you're saying you actually said that Vincent Fusca is actually dead as well?
Speaker 2:
Vincent Fusca is dead and I use that as a thing, and I use the Ace Ventura reference, where Ray Finkel was a hiker that died in the mountains, okay, and Lois Einhorn took his name. Ray Finkel became Lois, I'm sorry, lois Einhorn was a hiker that died in the mountains, okay, and Ray Finkel, after missing that kick in the Super Bowl, took her name and changed his whole appearance Einhorn is Finkel, finkel is Einhorn, einhorn's a man, wow. So Vincent Fusca died in the middle of where this Vincent Fusca claims to live or have been raised after moving here from Italy. There's no information on him in Italy. I don't think he actually lives here. He doesn't have an accent Well, you wouldn't know but he doesn't speak. But nobody has come out and said he's got an Italian accent. He speaks to people. I see him take pictures with everyone. He's everywhere.
Speaker 3:
He's either the most brilliant social media guru I've ever seen, or he's John John. I think he caught on to the fact that he can get a lot of publicity from this insane conspiracy. I guess you could say is what it is really. But I think he's using that as his publicity and he says I'm just not going to say anything, because people are looking at me. Because of this, this is.
Speaker 2:
Donald Trump we're talking about, right? No, donald Trump, this isn't your ordinary president. No, hold on this guy's popping up in Donald Trump's campaign Because of why. This is not your ordinary president, who is a senator, goes through the rigging rolls, climbs up the ladder whatever, becomes president. This is Donald Trump. Donald Trump is what I believe they call a tycoon somehow, even though he inherited all of the stuff, but he is a publicity magnet, right, they pay him to go places.
Speaker 3:
But this would have had to been planned well, well before. That was even a thing, it was.
Speaker 2:
It was planned, it had started before he won the first election, when he was president, and then, once he won it, they just went with it and they took it where it needed to go. And then, now that he's back here and running, let's unleash Vincent Fusca. So my biggest question would would be, though this could quite possibly be a bad thing 20 years ago.
Speaker 3:
What made them do that then?
Speaker 2:
Do what?
Speaker 3:
Fake his death 20 years ago and go into hiding. What would make that?
Speaker 2:
So he wasn't killed.
Speaker 3:
You think they were going to kill him?
Speaker 2:
They killed everyone else. So you think Every other, Basically every other one of them that is higher up in politics has been killed.
Speaker 3:
I don't know. I don't think it's real. It looks not even the only people that believe this are very far right political people, I am not far right. And researching it and stuff. Most people are just laughing at it altogether.
Speaker 2:
Why are they laughing at it? Because it is absurd. Just so you know, I'm laughing at it too, it's absurd, it's absurd. It's absurd. It's absurd, but you can't have any. You can't really have any other explanation. This guy came out of nowhere, has done nothing, has no history, and yet is one of the biggest topics of Donald Trump's campaigns.
Speaker 3:
But that doesn't mean he's JFK Jr.
Speaker 2:
What else would it mean? It means he realized that people have used that and he said oh, you know what? You don't get to that point unless you're JFK Jr.
Speaker 3:
I'm sure other people could come up with that. I don't think he's the only person in history that could ever do that.
Speaker 2:
He has to be so intelligent with social media that he's been able to do this, which I don't think he is, because there are people that are way more intelligent with social media than I believe Vincent Fusca, at 61 years old, is, even at 45, he's not that intelligent.
Speaker 3:
That being said, who knows if he was even part of this when they came up with this conspiracy.
Speaker 2:
You have to have political connections to do something like this, and he's doing it. I don't think so. He's not Vincent Fusca. Maybe he's not JFK Jr, but he's not Vincent Fusca.
Speaker 3:
That's why maybe he's somebody else. I don't think he's JFK Jr.
Speaker 2:
I'm saying the deep state helped him fake his death. They took him out so he didn't get killed.
Speaker 3:
I mean maybe I'll see something, but right now it is not even a problem. So look at the situation.
Speaker 1:
I've done the research and I said no, this is a joke when it is, I'll accept the.
Speaker 2:
you were right.
Speaker 3:
No, I don't think you're going to be right this time.
Speaker 2:
Oh, I'm getting it. Oh, I'm getting it. No way, oh, 100%.
Speaker 3:
Nope. Well, you said they're never going to announce it.
Speaker 2:
I did say that they can't announce it. They can't, but something will come out. Well, you will start to question Vincent and Fusco if anything more happens.
Speaker 3:
But so far, everything that this group has said other than hey, this is who this is. Nothing's happened.
Speaker 2:
First of all, let me be clear. I think QAnon are just a bunch of satanic nutballs. They're weird, but with all this going on, I had to look at it. I had to look at it and started looking into it. I'm like, holy crap, this could quite possibly be a thing. This could. This is not so far-fetched that it can't be.
Speaker 3:
It's pretty far-fetched.
Speaker 2:
No, it's not so far-fetched that it can't be real. It's not off the wall, nuts, it is far-fetched. It is, I agree. But what is the other explanation as to why this guy is here Right now? It being JFK Jr is more of a relevant example or excuse whatever than from where this guy came from. He's of nothing. He literally is of nothing.
Speaker 3:
So far. Yes, he's there, but that people are pointing out that he's there, that's about it. And because I think they're saying that because of was it, kwanon? Is that how you say that? I don't know, stupid idiots, I don't know, but they're saying that's who that is. So when people notice him in the crowd, it becomes this big thing. But other than that, nothing has happened.
Speaker 2:
I think it's pronounced stupid and anonymous.
Speaker 3:
Possibly Other than that he's just sitting there. Lots of people are sitting there.
Speaker 2:
We're not looking at anybody else around him. There's no info, no matter how hard I try and look. Anywhere Anything, I ask Anything.
Speaker 1:
I research.
Speaker 2:
Brings me to a dead end.
Speaker 3:
Nowhere.
Speaker 2:
Nowhere.
Speaker 3:
It can't be his real name.
Speaker 2:
I don't know who this guy is. I don't and I can't find out. And even when you do that, you get one thing about him, and that's from QAnon, yeah. And then you get 47 things about Donald Trump. It's like there's not even a Wikipedia page where somebody makes that stuff up.
Speaker 3:
Right, you can go and edit Wikipedia itself.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, you can go and make your own things up and put nothing. Nobody knows anything about this dude.
Speaker 3:
I agree on that stuff, but I don't even know.
Speaker 2:
The only person that would be able to pull this off would be JFK Jr.
Speaker 3:
I don't think so.
Speaker 2:
But that was a. You know the magic tricks where they have you sign a card and 20 years later you cut off a tree branch and your card's there. How the hell did they do?
Speaker 3:
that Okay. It's a really long wait for that.
Speaker 2:
Well, that's kind of what magic is, and that's what they do. They shield you from what's happening. They planted that card, they wait 20 years for it to get to a point where it needs to be, and then you go cut it down, whatever it is. How is that not what this would be? This is exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3:
I don't see it. I don't. I'm not going to agree with you on this one. I really do not. Even there's no part of me that thinks that that's who that is.
Speaker 2:
That's because the bull is already over your eyes. No, I don't believe a lot of things They've already got you? No, I don't believe a lot of things that I said. You're locked in.
Speaker 3:
No.
Speaker 2:
You're locked in. You can't see the forest from the trees, can you Nope?
Speaker 3:
I can.
Speaker 2:
You just do what you're told. Stay in line.
Speaker 3:
But if we took a poll there would be very few people believing this story. I bet most people would be on my side, I now.
Speaker 2:
True or false? Jfk Jr. Is Vincent Fusca True or false? That's it. Let's see what kind of response we get out of it.
Speaker 3:
It's going to be false, false, false.
Speaker 2:
Okay, I'm saying true, true, true. Nope, you don't know that. I bet there could be a lot of people out there that agree with me, and if there are, you're going to be sorry.
Speaker 1:
I don't think so. You're going to be.
Speaker 2:
Sorry.
Speaker 1:
Hey case.
Speaker 2:
This is what happens when we get into good conversations. We got to get ready to go. We're a little over the time, so, uh, we're at the end. You want to say anything?
Speaker 3:
Nope, Just uh. Yeah, Do your research, but it's not a. Thing.
Speaker 2:
What are?
Speaker 1:
you going to?
Speaker 2:
research.
Speaker 3:
If this person's a real person go ahead and try there.
Speaker 2:
I've tried. Anyway, we're at the end of the show, Guys, I hope you enjoyed it. We'll catch up with you guys at least next week, maybe sooner. Like and subscribe SakiToomeycom. We just put up a store too, so check out our merchandise If you're into the show, see if you can buy us.
Speaker 3:
That's us Subscribe for themselves.
Speaker 2:
We're just poor podcasters that can't afford our own merchandise. Anyway, we're at the end of the show, Like I said as always, be good Sake to me.
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