How Do You Connect with Spirit Guides? - With Belle Casale

In this episode, Belle and I dive deep into our shared love for energy healing and spiritual exploration. Belle, a standout in the energy work field, shares her journey with spirit guides and angels, packed with personal discoveries and the powerful impact of these ethereal beings on her life. We explore the personal side of healing, how intuition shows up uniquely for everyone, and the unexpected surprises it brings.

Our conversation spans from Belle's early amazement with energy work to her connections with animal spirit guides and the growth of her psychic skills. We discuss the importance of trusting the process and the bravery needed to face the unknown, guided by our deepest truths.

Reflecting on her experiences, like taking a leap into a psychology class, we underscore the importance of following our gut instincts, even when they scare us. Belle’s stories are a beacon of encouragement, highlighting the power of staying true to ourselves and the limitless opportunities that come with it. Tune in to celebrate the soul’s whispers and the vast connections waiting for us in the universe.

More about Belle and how to connect with her:

As an energy worker for several years who fell in love with energy, I'm excited to serve you and honored to be part of your healing and spiritual journey. Please, feel free to check out my social media accounts, where I share a mix of psychological and spiritual tips, thoughts and ideas to heal, feel better ASAP and start bringing magic into your daily life via videos and my own artsy photos and prose. If you are serious about making big, exciting changes to your life and feel called to an energy healing session with me, please, reach out about a healing via DM on Instagram or TikTok at opalaurahealing or email me at opalaurahealing@gmail.com. I can't wait to hear from you!

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:34

Welcome back to the show. Today we're being joined by my dear friend, belle. I met Belle in an energy healing course that I took last year and we have become friends over the course of the last year and now we're in another class together and she is truly, truly one of the sweetest souls I've ever met. I was very intrigued by Belle for a long time because when I first met her, I was like how does this girl connect to her spirit guides? I don't understand, and I have to say that since we recorded this episode several weeks ago, she has helped me with connecting to my spirit guides and I really hope you enjoy this episode. We had such a fun time recording it and she's going to be joining me in the Pure Possibilities Facebook community.

Speaker 1: 1:21

If you are not a member, please join us. I do a Q&A every single Sunday at 10 am Pacific and this week, belle will be joining me on Sunday, may 5th, to answer any questions that you might have regarding the episode, or spirit guides and spirit teams and all the things that we chat about. So, if you haven't, regarding the episode or spirit guides and spirit teams and all the things that we chat about, so if you haven't joined the community. There's a link in the show description for you to do that, but without any further ado, please enjoy today's episode with Belle. Hello, belle, thank you so much for joining us today. I'm excited to chat with you.

Speaker 2: 1:59

Thank you for having me. I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 1: 2:02

Before we started recording we were just talking about we exchanged healings on each other and I have to say that the healing that you did on me was magnificent and you're so descriptive it blows me away.

Speaker 2: 2:21

I'm so glad it was such a special healing for you. It was wonderful to do.

Speaker 1: 2:26

Thank you, it's you know, we obviously met in our energy healing course and well, the first one last summer and then now we're in another one together last summer and then now we're in another one together, and you have always intrigued me with your ability to connect with angels and spirit guides. It's fascinating to me.

Speaker 2: 2:51

It was a surprise to me too. It happened that way. It wasn't a planned thing.

Speaker 1: 2:57

Well, and then the write-up that you did after the healing session. I was just like, oh my gosh, it's storytelling and it's just so beautiful.

Speaker 2: 3:07

I realized I do that for both because I did the same when you were healing me. I know I go on epic adventures. I come back out of it.

Speaker 1: 3:17

So how long have you been? I don't know. I guess tell us a little bit about yourself. I mean, I don't even know too much about you, other than I'm fascinated by you.

Speaker 2: 3:28

Oh, so I have been on my energy journey for about three years now and it started because earlier in, when we were in lockdown, my state everything felt really heavy and miserable and I just am very sensitive. I have been my whole life. So I was just feeling not only my own feelings of, you know, fear and anxiety and stress and worry, but I was feeling everyone else's. So I was in a pretty miserable state and my journey started. Funny enough, I always liked to joke that I was a pseudo-psychology major in college and I ended up taking this really cool class that was psychology based, with coaching, but it was more. We would receive the coaching because we were a lot of the students. We were kind of in crisis mode. We just really needed a lot of love and support because we just oh, we're all at massive transitions in our lives and just really wanted to make changes that lasted.

Speaker 2: 4:36

So, back, I can see that was the start, because I finally felt ready to invest in myself and take a class and I'd you know, hit that, that rock bottom that Mandy actually talked about Like you hit your rock bottom and you just surrender and you're just give up. You're like you know what, I can't do this anymore. Like I'm so ready for change, let's do this. Yeah, something's got to happen right, exactly. And that's where it started and that's where I started doing videos. Funny enough, because they had these different exercises and challenges for us to do, and they ended up doing a class a couple of times and then doing the video challenges, because that was the one that terrified me. So I knew I had to do it, but the first time I was just I couldn't handle it.

Speaker 1: 5:23

Yeah, I can relate to that. It's terrifying.

Speaker 2: 5:27

Yeah, because they want you to do them live. So the first one I did was recorded and then I did live. And it's funny because most people told me they couldn't tell. I was nervous and it floored me.

Speaker 1: 5:39

I've heard that too. It's like I am scared to death to do that.

Speaker 2: 5:44

Maybe it's just so far deep inside that other people can't see it, I don't know, or because we're pushing ourselves. People are seeing more of our higher self than the fear that we feel.

Speaker 1: 5:54

That could be, or maybe it's a little bit that we're just always so.

Speaker 2: 6:00

you know, we all have that self-doubt that kicks in, and and all of that so the harsh critics the harsh critic exactly little voice inside little loud voice.

Speaker 2: 6:11

Yes, the intuition's the little quiet voice. You know the. That's the. That's the one that told me to get into energy work because I had people flat up come up to me when I was at these kind of uh, I'm big on gemstones so I was at these gemstone events and I'd go. My friend invited me to this holistic event and I didn't know what, what it was. It ended up being really cool because she's like kind of into like psychic stuff, like you have any interest in this? And I was like, yeah, so my husband and I went with her and had this blast and they totally predicted a lot of this wild stuff that happens. It was really interesting, that is interesting. But, yeah, people right, it really blew my mind thinking about it back. So, anyway, people came up.

Speaker 2: 6:51

What did they predict Can?

Speaker 1: 6:53

you share?

Speaker 2: 6:54

I think the presidential chaos Really COVID chaos but, like they predicted, in a subtle manner it was kind of like we're about to have some wild changes that are going to go across the whole world. It's going to explode, everything and everything's going to change and it's going to be awful, but then it's going to be amazing after that, because I was at this panel and they were talking about it and it's like, looking back now I was like, yeah, they were right, wow, about everything that they were talking about. Huh, that's absolutely fascinating.

Speaker 2: 7:28

It totally transformed the world and a lot of people, because, although I struggled and a lot of us struggled, for some people they went the other direction and used lockdown times to make some big changes with their lives. So they took on new hobbies, they took classes, you know, they moved and got married and, you know, enlarged their families and started new jobs or new companies, like built their own companies from scratch and all these things, amazing things. So it really shook up everything for everyone.

Speaker 1: 8:00

Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, I think a lot of people either had really amazing experiences or not, you know, or not so much it kind of it does feel like it was a yeah, like yeah, kind of went one way or the other for a lot of people and anyway.

Speaker 2: 8:17

Anyway, at the gem expo it was interesting because I had I think it was at the other one too but I definitely had a couple of people come up and tell me hey, you need to work on so-and-so chakra and I'd never done energy work, so I was just a little weirded out that these strangers were. They were confident enough to come up right and tell me but at that point did you know what a chakra was? I mean vaguely, because I had done yoga and they're on the walls when you're in yoga places.

Speaker 2: 8:48

So I knew a little bit, but basically nothing. And then it happened again, so literally at least twice, and I'd always been curious, curious, but I never had a teacher. So I had read some books, but it wasn't enough. And so I I got some ads when I was listening to music to try to tune out, so I had some relaxing music on and I get these ads and it was for our teacher and it was some for Mandy, and so I intrigued and then I hilariously found out they were married.

Speaker 2: 9:20

I was like that's perfect, that's so perfect and yeah, and so I decided to take the 30 day style energy course and, you know, get the feet wet, deeper than just the books that I had read, because I had seen the movie the Secret as a young teen and it really I had a special spiritual experience watching that, that movie, which only makes sense now because, looking back, I just had no idea what the F was happening yeah at all, but it really started to open me up to possibilities and learning that you know, quantum is a thing right and so doing that energy course and I did it way slower.

Speaker 2: 10:10

I did it for about year and a half. I was practicing different things and working really deep at it before I started the energy healer program and I got those emails because once, once I joined, I would be getting the. You know, hey, here's some monthly updates and I could tell, hey, do you want to be healer? And I could see as those came in, I was like no, but it was.

Speaker 1: 10:35

It was because it was like a massive resistance.

Speaker 2: 10:37

It was a massive resistance because the little, a big difference for me from the 30-day program on your own, the container and having mentors, made a big, massive difference. It was huge, huge difference exactly and having people to talk to about it that understand more, because if you just talk to people who have no spiritual energy knowledge, you just sound like a crazy person.

Speaker 1: 11:23

That is so true. It feels good to be surrounded by people that are in the same, not stone. What's the word I'm looking for? Vibe, vibe, vibe, tribe. Yeah, yeah, I remember our class was. It was a small class, which was really nice. It was very intimate and it was nice to feel like we could get to know each other, and it felt so safe to be able to be open and honest and say this is what I'm experiencing, and am I a crazy person?

Speaker 2: 11:58

Yeah, it helps so much for things like that. It was really validating.

Speaker 1: 12:04

Yeah, I mean, that's probably been one of the biggest things with all of this for me is like you don't know what you don't know, and so and everybody experiences things very, very differently, and so being able to say like, not that things are right or wrong, but I don't know, it's like having the permission for it to be okay, to be whatever it is that you're experiencing. You are experiencing something, no matter what you know. I have a difficulty even explaining what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2: 12:34

Yeah, and just to to understand that. Understand that you know it changes and each one is different. Because I thought I thought that wasn't literal. So I remember asking that was one of my first questions and I remember the mentors were like oh yeah, every single healing is different, on yourself, on other people and that really blew me away a bit because I was expecting it to be a little similar. But no, my very first energy healing from our teacher, before I started any of the energy healer program, all I experienced was physical pains throughout my body so that's fun. And all I saw was swirling green and purple. That was it.

Speaker 1: 13:15

And then now you go on epic adventures. I do.

Speaker 2: 13:19

It's very much like the you know the Hobbit, you know an unexpected adventure. That should be the title. I love it, so I guess.

Speaker 1: 13:29

I guess a question I have, then, is so you went from being at this event and people saying you should read this person's chakra to it was.

Speaker 2: 13:38

It was that I had had holes in a particular chakra, which makes sense now. But yeah, multiple people are like hey, you need to take care of that chakra. And then so I think it was the first one's like you holes in this chakra, go get that fixed. They were just gone. And then it was like believe the second healing. I started meeting guides and I didn't know what I was experiencing.

Speaker 1: 14:04

So we kind of came back out and got to discuss it. Oh, so can you tell us a little bit about that?

Speaker 2: 14:07

Sure. So after the first healing where it was just colors, I was experiencing colors again, but then I had guides come in and the first round was all animals. Just happened to be that way for me. I have a deep connection to nature and animals, so maybe that's why my brain was like, hey, let them in first For my higher self, Open the gate and was like send in the animals. Belle loves animals.

Speaker 1: 14:32

So do you actually visually see the animals? Oh, I wish.

Speaker 2: 14:38

It's more like I see them through the third eye. So it's like I close my eyes and I sit or lie down and I experiencing it is almost like a waking dream, but I don't get to control it. That's why it feels more like a dream.

Speaker 1: 14:56

Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2: 14:56

I guess I'm along for the ride.

Speaker 1: 14:58

Hmm, yeah, I mean, I guess I'm along for the ride, okay.

Speaker 2: 15:06

So some people may be unfamiliar. Like what does that mean to experience it in your third eye? I can speak about it only from personal experience, but my guides have come in. So I'm, you know, sitting or laying down with my eyes closed and I'm seeing as if, like you're daydreaming, like for people. I did learn that some people that actually can't visualize anything, so I think it would be probably hardest for them to understand. But if you're the type of person that you can daydream and you're, you know, picturing, you're going off on you know vacation or something because you're distracted and it's your last day before vacation, like you know, when you have this fun distracted, and it's your last day before vacation when you have those fun ideas and thoughts in your head about what you're going to do and you're seeing it. But it can be like that, except that I'm not actively controlling it, I'm experiencing it. So my animal guides came and they were talking to me, but it was telepathically, so they're not moving their mouths like a human.

Speaker 1: 15:59

So, okay, Maybe some do, but not for me. So I'm I'm that person that doesn't really visualize things. I think about things like I can think about what it's like to be on a beach and how much I love it and staring at the water, but I don't actually see anything.

Speaker 2: 16:17

I'm thinking about it. So if someone says okay, shannon, what is your? You know, picture your favorite place, you think about it. You don't picture it in your brain like an image.

Speaker 1: 16:26

Hmm, I mean like I know what it looks like.

Speaker 2: 16:30

Does it, but are you like? Do you see it? You know, like in your head, I guess. Maybe I feel like you're seeing more than you think. Maybe I feel like you're seeing more than you think because this happened when you're healing me and you're seeing.

Speaker 1: 16:44

See, that's part of that. You don't know what, you don't know. Like, yeah, I feel I feel things, like I feel energy move through my body, but maybe it's that I'm overanalyzing and I'm just thinking about what I'm thinking about too much.

Speaker 2: 16:58

Yeah, cause we can also experiencing new things. New things for me this, maybe as of last week, I started to experience not exactly chills but shivers sometimes when I'm doing energy work and that didn't really used to how I would get chills sometimes, but that I'm just I'll describe it. It's like chills is more kind of like literally cold going like up and down my spine. That's what it feels like, okay, but the, the shivers are more like whole body shivers or like tingles.

Speaker 1: 17:27

It's like really interesting yeah, I get, I get lots of tingles and so I just I equate that to be energy moving through my body like something will happen. And then it usually starts around my feet and go like it's very centered. It's very interesting. It's like usually my knees down, like my feet to my knees, and then sometimes it'll come up through my entire body wow why, it decides to do it that way.

Speaker 2: 17:54

I have no idea I don't know, maybe you're already a deeply grounded person. You know I was coming from the bottom half. Yeah, I don't know, I didn't experience all of these things at once. I did let them come gradually, you know, without realizing what I was doing, trust and allow, and then, as we grow and expand, the the new sensations and feelings and experiences can come on. So some people can I remember mentors have said this too in our class. You know, like the first level, they didn't see anything. It took later on they felt comfortable and safe to see. So that's a good question do you feel comfortable and safe enough to see?

Speaker 1: 18:40

I don't highly visual, so yeah, I don't know that I do. I mean, I think some of it is. One thing that I've been kind of talking through and working through is a fear, I would say, of stepping into my magnificence and how powerful I really am. You, you know, like cause, I, I feel that I, I know that I have many gifts and I, I think that I'm afraid to allow them to come out for some reason.

Speaker 2: 19:13

Yeah, I think that's. That's pretty normal. It's like a phase we have to go through as spiritual interested folks and as healers. We have to get there to get through to the other side and you're in the you know, do I feel safe with this? Am I comfortable with this? And as you expand, then you get to experience more, because I'm sure you know how long have you been doing energy work. Have you noticed a difference from when you first started to experience things to now?

Speaker 1: 19:45

Yeah, I would say that there's definitely been a difference. I've only been doing it for less than a year, and well, that's not entirely true. I am actually a certified Reiki master.

Speaker 1: 19:56

I got my Reiki master certification right before COVID and then, I never had the opportunity to practice because of COVID, so it was very, very limited, but very interested in doing it and I really enjoyed that course and I have my certification. But again, don't practice that. But over the course of this last year, when I started this form of energy work, things have definitely shifted. But when I learned, so I have one of my gifts is just having an inner knowing of things and sometimes I don't understand it, like why, like I'll be pulled to certain people and feel this strong need, desire to connect with them.

Speaker 2: 20:49

And.

Speaker 1: 20:49

I don't get it and I start overthinking, like so much so it's like, oh my gosh, there was one person that I felt so drawn to. I felt so drawn to and I was like why, why do I like I don't even know this person? Why do I need to connect with them? Like I like I know them through social media, you know, like very limited, very limited exposure, like there's no reason in the world that I should be feeling such a pull to reach out and connect with this person. And so it kind of freaked, like it was nonstop. It was like this, it was almost like a voice in my head. It was just like maybe you should do this, maybe you should, maybe you should ask that person out for coffee, maybe you know.

Speaker 2: 21:31

And I'm like I've experienced that too. Yeah, I think it's because we're working on trust right now, like that's such a big theme.

Speaker 1: 21:38

Yeah, and I did find I'm finally.

Speaker 2: 21:44

I was like whatever, I'm just going to do this and I don't need to understand why.

Speaker 1: 21:46

I'm just going to trust and allow and whatever, and now this person has become a really good friend of mine. Well, I'm so proud of you, yeah, and so it's great, but the feeling that I had that it freaked me out because I was like this doesn't make any sense. This doesn't make any sense at all.

Speaker 2: 22:03

It doesn't make sense when we try to intellectualize it and get too human about it. But I do have a story for you that you'll probably find very interesting after what you just experienced.

Speaker 2: 22:14

So when I was a very young child I was probably about three or four there was a friend that I would sometimes play with at a local park, and one of those times I was playing by myself. I was a pretty shy, highly introverted little child, so I was playing with, of course, my little animal toys I believe it was a unicorn, but you know the famous unicorn you have coming through to every now and then playing with, of course, my little animal toys. I believe it was a unicorn, but enough Love it, the famous unicorn you have coming through to every now and then.

Speaker 1: 22:45

I've got a fun unicorn story that I'm going to tell you. We'll circle back to it.

Speaker 2: 22:49

Okay, well, it's funny too, because now I have a unicorn and alicorn guides coming in, oh, so they're everywhere. That's why I'm laughing about it anyway. So this, this friend approached me and I remember I felt a tap on my shoulder, but it wasn't this friend and I turned and there was nobody there. And then I I heard in my ear, on the right side, someone said to me you, you need to, you know, make make sure you're friends with this person, like they're going to be important to you, and that is one of my best friends, now that I call a sister, so a chosen sister, sister by choice. And then, funny enough, it happened with my now husband. Wow, the shoulder taps.

Speaker 1: 23:36

That totally just gave me chills the shoulder taps.

Speaker 2: 23:46

That totally just gave me chills. And at my day job that happened with somebody else, but it made for a funny story because I was really drawn to this person, because she's just a very beautiful, intelligent, capable woman, you know just very admirable, intelligent, capable woman, you know, just very admirable.

Speaker 2: 24:05

And I was so intimidated you know I was freshly graduated out of college and starting my first ever you know full-time job, and this person had started a little bit after me and, you know, I finally mustered up the courage like, oh, i'm'm gonna go see if they want to. You know, go go do lunch or a snack. And I, I like, stand out to approach. And as soon as I I did that, she came up and approached me and said, hey, do you want to go for lunch? Oh, yeah, and then I got that same thing like the taps, and I was like, hey, this person's gonna be important for you, don't let them go. Huh, I was like that's what the shoulder taps mean, but I kept forgetting, because it had been so many years in between, that it was only till it happened with the third person that I was like, oh, you're like you're like physically feeling a shoulder tap yeah, yeah, see, that's fascinating and I think that's my god it's.

Speaker 2: 25:00

I would guess an angel because someone's like fascinating and I think that's my guides. I would guess an angel because someone's like who do you think that was feeling? Yeah, probably an angel probably an angel okay so let's, talk about. Let's talk about guides and angels so yeah, so I mean spirit guides, in case anyone's a little confused what we're talking about.

Speaker 2: 25:17

So spirit guides and angels, and I grew up with catholicism but I chose to not proceed, so I actually did not get confirmed, I was not not into it and even though some of the lessons are beautiful, I just I wasn't vibing. So fortunately, my parents gave me the option to not proceed and I had zero, zero interest and as a kid I used to collect angels. But then I went through kind of a rebellious phase where I was like I didn't want angel anything and so I'm sure my angels were very sad, and I have since learned that angels actually are, are helpers on the energy, spiritual side, regardless of what religion you have or don't have, and for me I actually was very moved by that. I thought that was beautiful because they're for everyone. Yeah, love that. We all have our guardian angel and we have, you know, other larger spirit team and there's typically multiple angels involved in that.

Speaker 1: 26:19

So what would you say is the difference between our spirit guides and our angels that are with us?

Speaker 2: 26:25

I would say that the spirit guide is more open, like if I say spirit team, I like to include one's higher self, their angels and their guides, their spirit guides it's also easier to say than all those right, so their spirit team. But the guides is actually quite broad. So a spirit guide can be ancestors from our you know, our, our past lives or our current line. They can be friends or family that have passed on, or current, current life again, or past they can be. They can be pets. Some people have a special soulmate bond with their pets. I've experienced that. So totally made sense to me, right, and you can also have your past selves as guides. It can be spirits. Again, they'll probably be your ancestor or something. They can be animals that are important for you, and they can all change too. Same with angels.

Speaker 2: 27:31

So the first angel I met is very like, different, like it's it's like, and they can look different to everybody too, which I found interesting. So for me, I did look up the colors and that's kind of how they began introducing themselves to me, because I didn't understand yet what was happening. So usually when an angel comes in, I actually visually see a small light in their color. You can google the different colors and what what they each mean. But the first one I saw was a green light and I was like what is that? And it was later I found out, the archangel rafael, the archangel of healers. His color is green, green, right. So the green light translated literally through my eyes.

Speaker 2: 28:17

But then when I go into full like meditative mode, then I can see they're. They look more like a classic angel to me, but their bodies are a little bit, a little bit different. You know they to me they do have fluffy feathery wings, but they're in different colors, so they don't all have white wings like a lot of the old artist paintings. It's more like the naval style and from my mind, but you know, they have these beautiful colorful wings. So raphael has green feathers. Hmm, gabriel has gold. Gabriel is a gold to yellow and white is his spectrum, so he has golden feathers who has purple?

Speaker 1: 29:02

I'm always drawn to purple. I know shocker purple is one right.

Speaker 2: 29:06

Purple is one I've connected to recently, that is zadkiel, so he has purple feathers but a lot of the angels. To me it's kind of like shade, so it's not a consistent color all the way down right but like she's yeah, it's pretty.

Speaker 2: 29:22

So zadkiel is purple and I don't know if I can remember teal is one of the newest. That's aniel. That's an archangel of, like self-expression. I was like that makes so much sense. And, uh, red, like I'm wearing red today. Yeah, red is ariel, but his wings are are different from everybody else's. He looks like a phoenix to me because not his body.

Speaker 2: 29:46

His wings are red and orange and gold okay, and I found an image too, of somebody had done a painting, and again this probably is medieval. So that really blew me away because like, oh, that's so cool.

Speaker 1: 30:12

That's what I'm seeing. Okay't feel like I've ever had a very broad imagination, like fantasy was never really. It's not into movies, not into like. I didn't feel like I had a great imagination when I was growing up, like I don't know how to describe it, but it was like I'm not drawn to movies, like that I'm I. I didn't feel like I could pretend and imagine things when I was little. I'm sure you did. I think, I don't remember it in different things.

Speaker 2: 30:49

There's that too.

Speaker 1: 30:50

Yeah, I mean my childhood. It's like a's. That too. Yeah, I mean my childhood is like a blur. Yeah, yeah, I mean, most of mine is too. They're you know moments.

Speaker 2: 30:57

Moments yeah.

Speaker 1: 30:59

But like sci-fi and fantasy, all of that, I've never been drawn to that I don't think that's a requirement Just because I love those things.

Speaker 2: 31:07

It doesn't mean anything because it's what we're each into and doesn't like mean anything because it's what we're each into and your creativity comes out through. You know your podcasts and your videos and your content creation and your floral ranging.

Speaker 1: 31:20

I'm just wondering just express it differently yeah, but I'm wondering if that different imagination and fantasy maybe is what I don't like to say blocks, but what creates a difference when it comes to someone who is able to visualize more so than someone you know, like you seem to be able to visualize more so than I feel that I'm able to, even though I probably am visualizing more than I'm realizing is what I'm starting to learn, but maybe I've put that limit on myself because I'm like I've always, you know, this belief.

Speaker 1: 31:59

That's probably not even true, that I have convinced myself of all these years that I don't have an imagination.

Speaker 2: 32:06

But you do. But I do yeah, I think that's a good, good negative belief system. Yeah, that other class they used to call them um bs, which would make me laugh. I'd be like we're talking about belief systems, guys, but it was on purpose. You don't make us laugh, let's remove the bs.

Speaker 1: 32:27

Yeah, it's funny there's so many, you know. I mean we could go down a whole thing about beliefs, but that literally just kind of came through for me as we were having this conversation. I'm like I think I've had a belief that I don't have an imagination. And what if I start breaking down that belief and maybe that will, uh, impact my, my energy, work and my spiritual path for sure.

Speaker 2: 32:55

I mean when you're working on me, you got to experience seeing when you were healing me.

Speaker 1: 33:00

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2: 33:01

That tells me you have that ability. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 33:05

There was one time I was deep in a meditation where I actually did experience, like it was all the chakra colors and it was like a waterfall that I saw. It was beautiful, it was beautiful. But it was like one time. And then I've had times where I have been in a meditation and it was like I was watching a movie. It was like a movie screen and it was going so fast that I had no idea what I was watching. But there was something happening. But I don't know what it was Like, I couldn't see it.

Speaker 2: 33:43

Yeah, that actually happened with a recent feeling with me. It was like sometimes you're not allowed to see and sometimes it just goes too fast for your logical mind to keep up. Yeah, I've had both of those experiences, where sometimes I'm seeing stuff and it's hard for me to write or type it because it's happening so fast and some things I'm actually not allowed to look the uh I was trying to look and the angel was like nope.

Speaker 2: 34:06

And then I very gently moved my head. He's like no, you're not looking at that girl, you look dead ahead right now.

Speaker 1: 34:15

Yeah, it's all. All of this is just. It's so like I just get so curious, you know, and it's like I just want to know more and obviously be in a space of just allowing it all to allowing myself to receive the information.

Speaker 2: 34:29

And that sounds like you're in a great space to experience more.

Speaker 1: 34:33

Now, you know because you're excited about it. You're not. You're not so scared anymore, there's definitely still a little bit of fear. But okay, let's go. Let's really quickly go back to the unicorn story. So I think I maybe I've told this story I don't remember if I've talked about it on the podcast or not but I think it was a brief one, yeah.

Speaker 1: 34:53

Yeah, I literally one morning I woke up and I was connecting to you know, please express to me what's in my highest good regarding whatever I was asking about. I would love to see a sign of a unicorn. And then I just forgot about it, like. And then I went on about my day and I was at a football game and literally I was talking with my friend and I turn around and there was a fricking unicorn on the stage and I was like, oh my gosh, this is insane. Like are you fricking kidding me? Like why, I mean cause I literally it's like I want, I was trying to trick the universe and I was like like I'm going to see a freaking unicorn. Like why would that even happen? So I'm like cause I was like wanting it to tell me no about what my question was, or I felt like that was what I wanted. And then it, yeah, it was crazy, it was great.

Speaker 2: 35:51

I was like, okay, I love it Noted, when we ask our spirit team for because you don't have to do specific signs, but when we do, I'm laughing because like they, they're, they're playful they will send them to you in multiple ways and depending on how open you are, you know, if you're asking for unicorns, you will be inundated with unicorns. You know for that week, like it's, it's really fun to see where they pop up. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 36:16

Yeah, it is Well, and so much of that is how much attention are we paying to our surroundings and what's going on?

Speaker 1: 36:22

you know, you know yeah, because if you, if you aren't, you know, it's like I can be on a walk and see something that I have, you know, I can be on a walk and see something that I have, you know, walked by 50 times and never noticed it and it's always been there, you know. And so I guess, when you put that intent out there, but you know, there's no reason why I should see a unicorn at a football game.

Speaker 2: 36:42

Yeah, we see, or at least we'll be exposed to more of the sign if we are missing them. So I feel like it's to help get our attention because if, if they know we are not good opinion, attention right now, but they ask for a sign of like, I don't know, send me a shrimp, like they're gonna be shrimp that whole week everywhere, right? So you're finally like. You know, I feel like I've seen shrimp. I was like, yes, it's been 50 shrimps in your face till you, finally get it.

Speaker 1: 37:19

So I was talking with somebody in our energy class right now because I was like I don't know about my spirit guides or spirit team or I don't. I don't feel like I acknowledge them or really know when they're present, and they were telling me a practice of like meditating and asking them to like come into a circle and then leave, and like come in and then leave so that you could feel the change in energy and how it's feeling in your body when they're there or when they're not there. Is that something that you've tried or like?

Speaker 2: 37:49

Not quite like that started with, because I wanted to learn more about the guides and how you know what what they had for messages for me.

Speaker 2: 38:00

I started with some free guided meditations on youtube that I've listened to and they vary in length, so the one that I mostly use is maybe 20 something minutes, and half of it's really getting you relaxed. So sometimes I fall asleep, which can happen. It can happen quite a bit. So that's something that I wanted to mention, because some people get really frustrated, and sometimes I am too, because I want to remember, but sometimes we're not allowed to remember yet.

Speaker 1: 38:31

And so when you are, we can pick up so much in our subconscious.

Speaker 2: 38:34

anyway, that's true, yeah so sometimes, when you're at the right point and you're supposed to remember or remember basically everything, it's for me it was kind of like a conscious dream. It was like like aware and you're, you know, talking to whoever you need to talk to, and, yeah, flying or walking around and like things are happening and they'll tell you messages or give you gifts for both so okay.

Speaker 1: 39:02

So when you say that they're giving you messages like how is that coming through for you, like the tap on the shoulder or sometimes it is well.

Speaker 2: 39:12

It really depends. I have felt the tap on the shoulder. There was a couple times I felt like a feather on my face, but I was healing someone, so I kept thinking there was like dust touching my cheek it wasn't until I was continuing to heal the person that I realized, oh, that's an angel feather and that's a while that I can feel it, because they needed my attention. They kept like brushing my cheek interesting.

Speaker 2: 39:35

Yeah, that blew my mind, yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely, and so that can come in in different ways, but most of the time they talk to me as if you know, like I talk to anyone else in a regular dream when I'm asleep, but sometimes I actually hear it. There was one where I was woken up from sleeping because I heard someone's voice in my ear. That one was shocking. I wasn't expecting that, but it's usually just as if you're speaking to me, you know, but I'm asleep, like it's just here in the dream, which is, you know the meditation mode, and just experience it.

Speaker 1: 40:15

Yeah, that's I think. So much of this I feel like is falls into that. You, you don't know what you don't know. I mean, I, I feel like I follow my intuition and like that inner knowing or that, you know, something feels really good in my body or it doesn't feel good on my body and I allow those things to guide me. But I'm not actually hearing somebody call my name or say something. But I do notice things Like I'll notice this.

Speaker 2: 40:47

and whether those are spirits, I don't you know, I think it depends too on the person's guess, because I already know that I have a clear audience where you hear. I think you're ringing to quite a bit. It's happening out there, yeah, and I think that's why I can sometimes literally hear as if someone's in the room, because when I was young that freaked me out. I didn't know anything about energy stuff and it doesn't happen all the time, but for some people it can, yeah, and some other people will hear music. Or I was telling me like they I think of it more as your spirit. He was talking to you, giving you messages, but some people would say the music would come on the radio with the lyrics that were specifically for confirmation for them. Yeah, I've had stuff like that happen too, actually kind of fun. But I mean you can ask for a sign and it'll come in like music on the radio. Or you know, your friend does a facebook post. I had a big one with dandelions, which is going for wish fulfillment and they're still coming in.

Speaker 1: 41:51

I had a couple of analyze pop up yesterday and made me laugh sometimes I'll be just like somewhere and I get like I smell, like I'll feel like I'll smell something and it reminds me of a person or. But, like you know, I'm in an environment where, again, there's no reason why I should be smelling lilacs, which remind me of my grandma, or a certain cologne.

Speaker 2: 42:17

You probably have that gift.

Speaker 1: 42:20

I can't remember what it's called, but the smelling one, yeah, a cologne or a perfume or something that completely reminds me of A cologne is a super common one because scent memory is just really strong in us humans. Yeah, because scent memory is just really strong in us humans. Yeah, well, that was fascinating to me one day, cause I was like on a walk and like literally outside, like why am I smelling cologne, you know? And there was nobody around me. There was nobody around me.

Speaker 2: 42:44

Yeah, that's wonderful. Yeah, could be. A visit from guides Could be? Yeah, could be.

Speaker 1: 42:50

Yeah, so I think it's. It's, did you? Say family members that passed on being open. No, that was somebody that is hasn't passed, Somebody that's alive, but my grandma has passed. So when I the lilacs yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:06

That I definitely know that that's her, but yeah, I think it's. It's just that. That's the part that's kind of like why is this happening? And I need to get out of my logical mind and just allow, oh, and I maybe pay more attention to what's going on around me at the time and tune in, to tune into that. Maybe that would be helpful.

Speaker 2: 43:30

I agree.

Speaker 1: 43:31

Yeah, this is so much fun.

Speaker 2: 43:36

I love talking about this stuff yeah, really helpful too to experience healing each other so we could get a deeper understanding of we, what we each experience yeah, yeah, I did a healing in our first course and somebody told me they felt like they were in a, a love.

Speaker 2: 43:55

It's like a love bath or something oh, that's really sweet oh wrapped in, wrapped in love, and yeah, I don't remember exactly what she called it, but it was very sweet that's funny because I had a similar experience, because I just felt really like calm and relaxed afterward, which I totally needed well, it's so important to like move that we store so much blocked energy in our bodies and we have to move it through and it's amazing how we can clear.

Speaker 1: 44:27

so do you know which chakra they were saying that had holes in it? Do you know way back? Oh, yeah, they did tell me. Yeah, which ones did they refer to?

Speaker 2: 44:39

It was my throat, because I had problems basically like standing up for myself and speaking up. So when a person has problems with a particular chakra from my experience and what I'm seeing it seems to be the trend with my mentors if you have like a problem with like one or two chakras, that's probably one of soul lessons, which is like uh means you have to keep learning the lesson until it's like it finally sticks. But also you can really look at it from that perspective and look, you know, at what each chakra kind of covers, because the throat is self-expression. So when someone doesn't feel comfortable speaking up, that means yeah, they can have throat chakra or throat physical issues or both.

Speaker 1: 45:25

So did they both say it was your throat chakra?

Speaker 2: 45:28

Yep, Wow. That's why I was like okay, this is getting weird.

Speaker 1: 45:35

So do you focus on your throat chakra when you're, when you're doing your healings?

Speaker 2: 45:39

I mean, I, I do all the chakras yeah yeah, I always do.

Speaker 1: 45:44

All of them tends to be one.

Speaker 2: 45:45

That's. You know I have to keep working through. Content making helps and the video making is still pushing me there. So it's definitely still uh in progress, but much better. And I learned the hard way just through life that you know, when we don't speak up for ourselves, we're the only ones that really suffer for it absolutely.

Speaker 2: 46:06

That is such a true statement not worth it to make yourself suffer, because most of the time, if it's just, you know, just a regular, real life situation, if it's, you know, a friend or a co-worker, they don't want us to be uncomfortable. No, this is a true, you know, true friend. They want us to feel good with them and hang out and have fun. So if we're not speaking up because we're afraid of making someone, you know, uh, what do you say like disappointed or uncomfortable or sad or whatever? We're afraid of making someone, you know, uh, what do you say like disappointed or uncomfortable or sad or whatever. We're not being our authentic selves and we're suffering because we're not comfortable either, you know, physically, emotionally, whatever, because obviously it depends on the situation right.

Speaker 1: 46:47

Well, and then I mean I've always, you know, then you're also not allowing people the opportunity to get to know the real you. You know Exactly, and we all have so much to offer and share with each other you know and we just have those beliefs that we can break down. As to you know, like your friend probably does, want you to be comfortable and have fun and share yourself and just be you, but then we, we block ourselves. So it sounds like you are on a beautiful growth journey, my friend. Thank you.

Speaker 2: 47:22

It's totally still ongoing, yeah.

Speaker 1: 47:24

Yeah, but it's fun, right Like it's.

Speaker 2: 47:28

It is. It's both fun and hard.

Speaker 1: 47:31

Yeah, yeah, there's definitely.

Speaker 2: 47:33

It is. It's both fun and hard, yeah, yeah, there's definitely like it's one of those that's worthwhile and something that I remember on the hard moments.

Speaker 1: 47:38

Yeah, it's worth the hard and the growth that comes in, the confidence and how you feel about yourself when you can go through and put I don't really like to say push, but challenge yourself. To you know, take that next step. That might be a little bit scary, but it ends up being so rewarding.

Speaker 2: 48:02

And that's one of those things that I learned in that that class, the psychology life coaching class, where they were saying to get comfortable with being uncomfortable. And there's a big theme in the program where that's one of the reasons why they encourage us all, each person, to do lives, because it, unless it's, you know, part of your job, you're used to it. Things like public speaking are scary for a lot of people, for most, and just putting yourself out there is really scary. And just to hear from you know, your fellows and the teacher and kind of the assistants or mentors of the program, to hear that everyone you know felt that way when they first started, is validating and comforting.

Speaker 1: 48:52

Oh for sure, I think when we're in it, we're like I'm the only one and nobody, you know everybody else, is so super comfortable doing this Exactly. It's so not true, I mean?

Speaker 2: 49:02

it's not the case at all.

Speaker 1: 49:03

No, and I've heard of people who you know do speaking events or, do you know, live social media or whatever, and every time they're really uncomfortable before they do it, but you can't tell you know, and so they're.

Speaker 1: 49:20

You view them as this person that is so confident, but inside they're freaking out, and I mean I've experienced that over the last several years since I started doing it. I was terrified, terrified to do it, and now it's like still scary for me a little bit, but not nearly the way it was. I mean, sometimes I have to stop and take a deep breath before I do a live, and sometimes I fumble through it and I've just decided that I'm just going to do what I do and say what I'm going to say, and if it's not perfect, it's fine.

Speaker 2: 49:55

That's beautiful and yeah, I'm realizing the same, but also that we're actually craving the authenticity in each other. So it's okay to fumble through. It makes you feel more human to others. You know, to have that perfect polish, that can be okay. And maybe a commercial. You know, like if you're filming a commercial for your podcast or something, but in the podcast themselves, like you know, they laugh and you know we'll fumble on words and like that's okay. That's how people are when they have conversations that are real, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 50:30

I mean I don't want to put the perfect thing out there because that's just not for me, that's just not real life, and I think I had this image in my mind for a while that it had to be. You know, things had to be perfect. The post had to be perfect.

Speaker 1: 50:41

The video had to be perfect and and, honestly, people really don't care and they would rather you be true and authentic and you know, especially like I'm a coach and my life is far from perfect, you know, but I learned tools and ways to navigate through things you know, and that's real life, Like that's real life. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much for spending time with us today. Is there anything that you would like to leave us with today?

Speaker 2: 51:15

One of the messages that I keep getting that you know, when you get a ping from your intuition or your spirit team, do your best to follow through, even if it doesn't make sense, because hopefully in time it will. And even if you're scared to do the thing, as long as you're not hurting you or anyone else, do the thing. So if you're afraid to take a class, like I was, but you knew in your heart of hearts you should take the class, do it.

Speaker 2: 51:47

Love that that you will you will enjoy it and you will just feel so proud of yourself, too for falling through, because integrity was a big theme of that. You know that psychology class and that's something that I realized is a core value for me, and I think it's something a lot of us are realizing. You know what integrity is huge, and the biggest part is starting with yourself.

Speaker 1: 52:15

So always keep your own word.

Speaker 2: 52:17

Yeah, it's easier for you to keep your word to others and other people to keep their word with you, because when you give your word, other people recognize. You know. Oh, you know. Belle said she's going to come. Great Like she's. She's going to show up, she's going to be here for for me, but it starts with being being there for you yourself, beautiful it's beautiful, I love it, thank you.

Speaker 1: 52:40

Thank you so much.