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The Constructing Growth Podcast with QuickBooks Solution Providers
Looking for ways to save time and money on your construction or contracting business? This short podcast features advice and insights from QuickBooks Solution Providers who are experts in your industry. In each short interview with host Nate Flake, they cover how to streamline your back office, automate to reduce paperwork and find the right tools to set your business up for growth.
The views, information or opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved, and do not represent those of Intuit QuickBooks or any of its cornerstone brands or employees. This podcast does not constitute financial, legal, or other professional advice or services. No assurance is given that the info is comprehensive, accurate, or free of errors, and the information presented is for general information purposes only. Intuit QuickBooks does not have any responsibility for updating or revising any information presented. Listeners should verify statements before relying on them.
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The Art of Learning: Three Small Business Finance Mistakes You Don’t Want to Make
Join us for a conversation with Jeff Siegel of Siegel Solutions, a QuickBooks Solution Provider who knows the construction industry, as he shares the 3 most common finance mistakes that small businesses make time and again.
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Are you in the construction or contracting business and looking for ways to save time and money? Welcome to the Constructing Growth podcast. My name is Nate Flake and I'm here to help you discover ways to streamline your back office,
automate your workflows, and find the right tools to help you set up your business for growth. Welcome back to the Constructing Growth podcast.
I'm your host, Nate Flake, and today we're joined by Jeff Siegel, the owner of Siegel Solutions. Jeff, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you for having me, Nate. Yeah, no problem. And as a side note,
congratulations. I heard you guys just hit your 20 years in business milestone, so congrats on that. That's big news. Thank you. It went by really fast and sometimes when I think about it,
it went by slow too. Yeah, exactly, depending on what it is, right? So anyways, I want to just let the listeners know this isn't just some guy off the street. These guys know their business and they've been in this space for 20 years now.
And so today we're going to talk about something that I think our listeners are really going to relate to, especially in that construction and contracting space. And that is the top three finance mistakes that small businesses make in the construction space.
How do you avoid them, right? So this is going to be something, if you're going to take notes on a podcast, he says probably the three things you need to write down as you build your business, whether you've been in business for a week or 20 years like Jeff,
right? Even these seasoned companies can learn new tricks and new processes and things like that. All right, so Jeff, we're going to do this countdown style, right? So we're going to start with the third most common financial mistake and kind of work up to that big number one,
big hairy monster number one mistake. So what's the third biggest financial mistake these construction companies are making that you've seen? Yeah, so I think the biggest, the third biggest mistake would be a lot of these contractors and construction business owners,
they tend to try to do things all on their own. That's just the nature of these people say they want to go out and build things. Well, they're also trying to build their accounting system and they're typically trying to do it after hours.
What tends to happen, what we've seen seen is it's a paper -based system. This usually, this big inbox of slips and invoices and things from other contractors.
Tucked in the visor, right? Yeah. Exactly. It's messy. They can't train someone else on how to do it. It's hard to grow with that kind of messiness of paper and that system.
They tend to get behind. If they used a system like QuickBooks, they could automate a lot of that stuff that they're doing by hand and they could actually have others do it, train other people on how to do it,
get the system to work for them. Yeah. So, trying to do basically a jack of all trades or I know pun intended in this space, but trying to do stuff that maybe you should be giving somebody else that specializes in that one thing.
Yeah. And we go into those companies, typically after the fact, and have to dig through piles. It's very manually. My curiosity, what's the worst paper situation you've had to come across in your 20 years?
We've had clients that have had multiple properties where they can't find the actual HUD statements when they purchase those properties, when they sold the properties. Money flowing around between properties because a lot of the contractors will have multiple projects going on and they'll borrow from one to purchase another.
Everything's on paper and it's very tedious to try to go back and try to put together a complete picture. You're requesting stuff and it just takes weeks and weeks to get to you.
That's one. Yeah. All right. Let's dive into the next one. What's the second biggest financial mistake that small businesses make in the construction space? Yeah. I think choosing the wrong software. They'll either choose something that's very complicated for a big construction company that may have hundreds of products and hundreds of employees and they can't keep up with it,
or they'll choose a software that is too simple for them so they can't break out the cost properly and it doesn't have the functions that they need as a contractor.
Using something like QuickBooks, which has over 750 applications that integrate with QuickBooks to do things like proposals and bids and requests for proposals and job costing and all types of other applications that actually add so much more functionality to QuickBooks.
If they had chosen QuickBooks in the first place and looked at some of these applications then that would simplify and help them with their accounting needs. So, we've gone in to companies and put in systems that integrate with QuickBooks for things like proposals,
job costing, even time entry, having their teams input their time from a job site or even a van from the road on their app and it all integrates back into QuickBooks.
Fod job costing is just invaluable. So I think choosing the right software when they first go into it is a pretty big mistake. That's interesting too because you're saying you can also overproduct yourself,
right? Normally you hear like, "Hey, you didn't get the right thing, it doesn't do enough," but at the same time you can overproduct, meaning you're getting something that has way too much functionality, it's too complex, you probably have people that get in there and like you said,
their main day -to -day is I'm trying to do, I'm a framer, I'm not trying to spend half my day learning this complicated system and they probably just give up at some point.
Yeah. No, absolutely. These complicated systems, they're great if you're a really big company, but when you're a smaller contractor, small, medium size, very overkill as features they never use or they think they're going to use.
For instance, I actually have a house up in New Hampshire and the guy who, we're doing some construction and the guy who dropped off the dumpster, when I went to pick it up,
he pulled out a, you know, a receipt, wrote it on a piece of paper and asked me to pay it. And I said, "Have you ever heard of QuickBooks? Because you could email me this and I could click a button and pay it instantly before you're off the end of my street." Yeah.
Make it easier for the consumer. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny I joked about that in one of the episodes of, "Hey, don't rip off a yellow piece of that 1990s receipt paper and hand it to me and then like what am I supposed to do with this?" You know,
email me, text me. So he recently became a customer by the way. So he called me afterwards and said, "Tell me about this, about QuickBooks." So interesting. That's great. But, you know, it's simple.
It's easy to use. But these other programs, they're great if you are much larger and we're talking very much like QuickBooks on its own with these applications could take you really far before you even have to go to some ERP or some kind.
Yeah. And it's all about getting the right product for where you are, right? And I think a lot of listeners here on this podcast are in that, you know, small to medium business space and they've either just started or they've been going a while and they're doing great.
And so I think that speaks perfectly to kind of the listener base that we have here. So Jeff, let's get the number one financial mistake you've seen in your 20 years of business, right,
when it comes to this space. Yeah. So this, the number one, and it relates to really the two that I just mentioned, it kind of combines a little bit. But for me,
it's not getting help in time, whether the business owner has been doing it themselves for years or whether they're on the wrong software, the number one mistake is really not bringing in a qualified QuickBooks solution provider to actually help with a streamlining the finances and or putting in the right accounting system and the right software that will help them grow.
We could make their life easier as QuickBooks solution providers right from the start and save them hours of frustration, time and proper use of resources. It's interesting.
There's a lot of smaller contractors who it's like a family business, you know, whether it's a husband and wife team or other family members trying to do it all themselves. You know,
we come in with therapists sometimes when we're putting the stuff together and we're being thanked by a lot of family members that we've done it for them. So really getting the help,
you know, timely. And I bet you have people come in that are like you said at the very start of that is like, you know, getting it quicker. I bet you have people that come in there, you know, that have that could have done this seven or eight years ago.
And they probably are like, Oh, man, I can't even imagine the time I could have saved right or even the money like, right, like you said, taking the business decisions and really having someone is an advocate like you guys,
right. And in letting them put their time and effort into something that they either specialize in or into marketing or something like that, right, or like feeding the pipeline of customers and things like that.
Yeah, I mean, we love helping business owners grow and actually able to see their numbers properly. It's awesome when we pull up a P &L profit and loss statement by property,
whether they're building something, we show them the cost to date and the projected revenues, profit, or even like, you know, a lot of these companies will have kind of a holding company where they have all their admin expenses to really show them what they're spending and what they're earning.
It's really powerful. And a lot of them have had stuff on the back of an envelope or a spreadsheet and to be able to do it instantly. It's just actually, it's great for us. We love seeing that.
Yeah, you probably love seeing the change and the kind of transformation and you're making in these small business lives, right. Well, I really appreciate you taking the time, Jeff, today,
and kind of going through those top three mistakes that people have. And I hope the listeners kind of really take note and avoid these things, right. And, you making the most of your business and growing your business with these points of advice.
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If you want to learn more about Segal Solutions, you can go to QuickBooksPartnersolutions .com and you can get in touch with Jeff that way. Really appreciate you being on this podcast,
Jeff. Thanks so much. Yeah, I'm glad to be on and I really enjoyed our conversation. The views, information or opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not represent those of Intuit QuickBooks or any of its cornerstone brands or employees.
This podcast does not constitute financial, legal or other professional advice or services. No assurance is given that the information is comprehensive, accurate or free of errors and the information presented is for general information purposes only.
Intuit QuickBooks does not have any responsibility for updating or revising any information presented. Listeners should verify statements before relying on them.