En åben snak med sangerinde & skuespiller Lene Nystrøm om hendes passion for musik
En åben snak med sangerinde & skuespiller Lene Nystrøm om hendes passion for musik
Welcome to Museo Lokal podcast and listen to music during my night sleep, something I still practice. Music is my passion. My drive, my mood and my daily life are formed and can be changed by music. Music has a unique ability to awaken feelings and connect people across cultures. My goal is to find out how different people experience the love of music and how it enriches their lives. Every week, I invite a new guest to talk about their relationship to music and how they live and are affected by music Insight, inspiration and, hopefully, some fun and exciting surprises. Welcome to Museo Lokal podcasten Musik mit Druck and welcome to Line Nystrøm.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Peter Visti.
Speaker 2:It's great to see you. You have prepared yourself. I can see that.
Speaker 3:Don't put it so hard on me. I've just taken some notes. It's really funny. And put a little titling, at least for me.
Speaker 2:You've talked to journalists and given interviews for 25 years and then you come, well prepared, man of form, to talk to each other.
Speaker 3:I just think there's something else, because I know you a little. Yes, so I get a little fascinated Is that right?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, that's funny. I just said it to Puk before I met you and said it's hard when you know each other a little more personal.
Speaker 3:Yes, but that's also good.
Speaker 2:Yes, but we're talking about music and love for music. Yes, and Lene, it's not a secret. Aqua, who has been on for 27, 28 years now Something like that, yes. Yes, and you play more than you've ever done almost right now, right? Yes, of course You're always on tour and stuff like that. Yes, when does all this music come from in your new dream?
Speaker 3:Well, I came from a town in Norway called Tønsberg, a little outside.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:It's a good place in the country.
Speaker 1:Yes and there.
Speaker 3:I grew up with a lot of music in the family. Yes, on my father's side, my mother has Wow, and I have a nine-year-old sister who also plays the guitar and sings a lot of music. So for me it was like that.
Speaker 1:That you used your voice.
Speaker 3:It was completely natural. It was completely natural, yes, yes, it was really. And then I was about four years old when I was over at the neighbor's.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:An old, real couple. That's where they bought eggs. Yes, yes, and they had a violin hanging on the wall and I think it was the first time I saw it. Yes, and I wasn't allowed to take it down or I couldn't reach it. No, I couldn't reach it, so they told me that the day you can reach it, you can try it. No, I couldn't reach it, so they told me that the day you can reach it, you get to try it Wow.
Speaker 3:And I was six years old, yes, and after that I played violin for 11 years, okay, and you went to teaching with it too. Orchestra teaching everything. I was completely in love yes. Wow, so it became my instrument. Yes, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm.
Speaker 1:Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm.
Speaker 3:Mm. Yeah, yeah, open for my own lungs. I remember I was sure I was Annie. Yes yes, I shouted after Daddy Warbucks. Yes.
Speaker 2:Funny. Yes, so you discovered quite early that you wanted to play, performed maybe also just ahead, or what.
Speaker 3:Well, I knew at least that I wanted something else. Yes, I was completely sure of that? Yes and I. There was also a music group called Bobby Socks which won Eurovision at a certain point.
Speaker 1:Let it swing.
Speaker 3:And a friend of mine named Lise. We started performing at play where we were allowed to come in like Bobby Socks With plastic shoes and pink outfits and light red and light green hair and everything.
Speaker 2:Oh how fun.
Speaker 3:And at the same time I joined my first band in 7th grade, yes, which was called Swing and Sing.
Speaker 2:Swing and.
Speaker 3:Sing, swing and Sing. Yes, and we sang songs like Heart and you know classic hip-hop songs and a little rock'n'roll, you know. But there we were also in. I was in the studio for the first time. Okay, yes, that was when I could feel like, okay, I can do this.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 3:So it was also something to push me a little and help me a little and stuff right?
Speaker 2:Yes, because if it's seventh grade then you can be a little unsure of yourself. I still think so it's early that you discover oh, there's actually something I'm really really good at here.
Speaker 3:Yes, well, I could do that.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Yes, and I was lucky that there were environments that I was allowed to try to be a part of it, and some of you are guiding you a little are you saying or what yes, my sister was so much bigger than me. I can remember I'm standing and singing in falsetto in the living room when I was quite little where she comes and gives me a proper stomach and says you should use it. It should come from the stomach. And then I learned that that's how you should do it.
Speaker 3:There's some technique too. It wasn't just joy, no, there was some technique.
Speaker 2:And Lena, how does it go with the band? Do you go out and play with the band in school?
Speaker 3:Only in school. And then there was also a cassette in Bonn which we were very proud of, a real release.
Speaker 2:There is something Thor Nystrøm has it on the floor. Wow, we were very, very proud of it, of course.
Speaker 3:So a real release or what? There is something Thor Nystrøm, he has it on the roof, wow, yes, and a lot of videotapes too.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, fantastic.
Speaker 3:He is the biggest Lene fan.
Speaker 2:Yes, and we are more than that. You know that well. Yes, you are cute, that's it you are cute.
Speaker 1:That, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 2:Lene yes, what is it called? When you're in seventh grade and discover that you're good at singing and things like that, what do you do then? How do you get on with it? Lene, Is there any work? Is it a classic ordinary school day?
Speaker 3:Or is there also some work, for there was no work with it.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:So the next time I get it or have the opportunity to get it, Wow, Wow yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and also that I listen a lot to Randy Crawford. I have a lot of the same vibrato and from there I started to get some jobs. That's what I do, and from there it goes on for a couple of years. Then I joined a Norwegian TV show where I got to perform with this song, okay. And from there I met René Diff. Yes, and then you met Rasmus.
Speaker 2:Yes, I almost met him Most.
Speaker 3:of it at least.
Speaker 1:Most of it. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, because Is that when he's a DJ on the Oslo boat, or what is it?
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm in a free show Of this TV show, on the Danish boat, as we say, and there's Diffen on board as a DJ. Yes, and he's a smart guy, a nice guy, and I think he's fantastic.
Speaker 2:He is fantastic.
Speaker 1:Yes yes, yes, he is.
Speaker 3:Yes, so Also Also this with Diffen that he is fantastic yes, he is Also. It's also this with Diffen that I've never met anyone like him.
Speaker 2:No, I haven't either.
Speaker 3:So he blows my mind and I was so invited to my home in Denmark to meet Søren Claus and be in an audition with Søren Claus. I came to the audition and had a rest and be in an audition with Søren Claus. Wow, yes, come to audition. Have rested. I've never been so nervous in my life.
Speaker 2:We've all been to audition with Søren Claus.
Speaker 3:We're always nervous. Yes, you can be, but it went so well. It went so well.
Speaker 2:Yes, because they have started the band a little how is it?
Speaker 3:They have made two children's records together Frække Frida and General. Tryptrud was a difficult word for the Norwegians. Yes, that was right. Yes, and then they had a need for a rapper. Rapper, you can't say rapper the sound of the answer is not as good as it is, but there came Diffin in and then they wanted to continue making some music together, and then they needed, and then I would like to continue making some music together, and I would need fans like me, and it will be the first single that I never have to talk about when Søren is there.
Speaker 2:It's a bit to teeny, weeny, tiny little spider, joyspeed, joyspeed, yes, which will continue to develop into Aqua.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's possible Line.
Speaker 2:How has it been to be through all this Aqua stuff? It's completely insane. It's a Danish, was Lene. How has it been to be through all this aqua? I mean, it's completely insane. It's the Danish band that sells the most records. It's the first debuting band that gets three no 1 singles in England.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. I think that's one of the achievements that we see the most. Yeah, because that's where we really stood. There was something going on here. Now we have overcome that one-hit wonder.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:So we are really proud of that. Yes, I can understand that. It's a very, very big question, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yes, I know that well, and the podcast was only eight hours so we can easily reach the most. No, I understand, I understand. Well, it's a huge question. I'm just thinking about it. You come, as you say, from Norway and you're completely green.
Speaker 2:At some point you're cast into it all when you've experienced this the first few years. Now you're touring again. Can you say where you? I've talked a little bit with Søren about this, because you actually enjoy it more now than then. You're just there all the time. It's good that you enjoy it then, but it's insanely strong and then we're so lucky.
Speaker 3:That's just something to say. From the start to now, what we've experienced, what we've experienced together through music, it's absolutely fantastic. It's the best way to see the world. But I would say the journey up is something very special when you have that common pure that you fight for together. When you get to the top, you fight to stay there, and that's just. That's a different feeling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and maybe even harder, I know, it's really hard to get all the way to the top, as you've done, but it's even harder to get there right, Absolutely.
Speaker 3:And it also starts to tear you apart.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And we traveled a lot and didn't get some of our lives as we wanted. And then there were just some moments where it was just like now it's enough. Now we're going to have a break, but I would say Universal Denmark and our management were good at taking care of us.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:But there was no one who had experienced this before.
Speaker 2:No, that's the problem.
Speaker 3:So there was no one who really knew what they were supposed to do.
Speaker 2:No, and everyone moves in one. Yes, they do. I think at that time it must be difficult, as a human being in general, to be able to when it gets so intense, you grow up fast. Yes, yes, that's it, that's what you do, and that's what you've become.
Speaker 3:Yes, I've become that. You have to see that, but I think I think also that I was very happy that we were four yes, that I wasn't alone, because I didn't want to be alone.
Speaker 2:No, no, I understand that well. Yes, there are some people you have alone and some to support you when it's too hard. Yes, I think also those who you have tried to be alone yourself, but with Is it one sheet in the back? One sheet?
Speaker 3:yes, and that was also a crazy time and they got me started with that. I'm completely heartbroken over Aquastopper in 2001, because for me it came as a mega surprise. I'm on my second wedding trip with Søren Rastad, sitting and dangling with his legs over a bridge in Italy, and then I see Søren come towards me with the phone and it's René and Claus who want to stop okay and I never knew that it's Jonas.
Speaker 3:So so, therefore, to come over it. Yeah, so, so. So, therefore, to like, come over that and stand like and find out you like to get married.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:On the way home to Denmark. There's a lot of things that happen right, so I say so. Universal and England say we would like to do this with you. Yeah, so actually I'm just sent around. I mean, I'm just sent around. I'm not strong enough in my own platform.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:So there were a lot of mixed feelings around the project.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:That's it.
Speaker 2:And are they your songs? Are you the one who writes the songs?
Speaker 3:Some of the songs are, we have to say, a lot of my songs.
Speaker 2:So yes, but it's a lot of opinions, so yes, but it's a lot of pressure. I think it must have been a lot of pressure, because when you've had such a big success as you have there, yes, it's four years, right for Fultrøen at that time, right. And and then suddenly it's you. It only turns out to be, I know, it's always been you and Renita in the front row, but all of a sudden no one's leaning up anymore? No, was it hard.
Speaker 3:I think it was extremely hard, Because it's not the same to have a manager with you, or a tour manager or no, it's not. I remember sitting at a hotel in Germany and thinking I don't give a fuck. No, I understand that well, when you're in that with the others, it's not enough for me, no no, it's not.
Speaker 2:You need the others too.
Speaker 3:I need someone Like you do do something with someone. Yes yes, concretely. Yes, that's for sure. Yes.
Speaker 2:So there will never be a solo album. I haven't said that, no, no.
Speaker 3:I'm asking you.
Speaker 2:But now I also have a different platform yes, exactly Now.
Speaker 3:I'm a modern woman. Yes, exactly no. I know that.
Speaker 2:But you also become more confident about yourself. You dare to do the things you want instead of them.
Speaker 3:But I have no idea in which direction it should be, because I think I love all genres of music. I have it a little dance-dancing with experimenting jazz.
Speaker 1:Yes, I actually have that too. I think it stresses me out Totally crazy.
Speaker 3:But apart from that, I just think all music is for its time and its feeling and for what it is made of.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly how do you use music yourself? Do you use it on a daily basis? Yes, I do. I do you use music?
Speaker 3:Do you use it on a daily basis? Yes, I do I know you did on Saturdays.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, because you sent me some clips.
Speaker 3:Yes, but I also love listening to you play, and it was more singing too right?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3:But I love music that makes me strong, yes, like Empower Me. I don't use music to cry or whine or feel sorry for myself. No, I could never think of that no. But I can love melancholic music. I love the blues.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Because I grew up with that through my father. Yes, so that's something I always come back to. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yes. You can hardly say that I know that I love everything. I don't like to be snobby.
Speaker 2:No, I like that, but I can like all music. If there's something in it, then there's no.
Speaker 1:I don't have any.
Speaker 2:I don't want what I don't care about. I don't want that. I want the good song or melody or the good piece of music.
Speaker 3:Or just a good bottom. Yes, exactly that pumps you out.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly it can be anything, there are some feelings that are the most important for me. It's not a certain genre. No, I hear it like that, so you also listen to music.
Speaker 3:I listen to music, but I also really like silence. Yes, Because it's not so often that I'm alone. No, and, for example, if I come home from a tour where I've been social all the time, playing a lot of music, we also play a lot of music. Then it's like this I really like to listen to the silence, which is also music.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3:So I lack, I can admit a really embarrassing thing. I really like it I haven't put a proper suit on at home yet. No, so I'm really me a lot.
Speaker 2:You've almost moved, haven't you? Yes, it's only a few years One year, no, one year, only One year, no, but it's on its way.
Speaker 1:It's on its way.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm going to have a vinyl player. Good high-pitchers.
Speaker 2:Yes, which is also fantastic.
Speaker 3:Yes it is, and that you can listen to a whole I mean put a whole record on. Yes, I can really like that.
Speaker 2:Yes, I also miss sometimes that you. We've been caught in the fact that it's one song at a time, again now because of Spotify and things like that, right.
Speaker 3:Yes, and reading the booklet yes. That I can also really miss.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:That you have a slightly larger relationship to the artist, you can't say that. I think the young people have it in the same way, but it's hard for me to put words in their mouths. Yes, exactly, but that thing with that you sat down and saw videos on MTV. It was like a whole experience.
Speaker 2:I think there was a little more of a wholeness to it.
Speaker 3:It was, it was as much the person, as the music, the band or the person came with.
Speaker 2:How the hell do you act in such a band, alone over such a long period, with both your ex-girlfriend and your ex-husband, and together so many hours when there are tours? It must be both fantastic. I think I'm pretty impressed that it all works between you. I think that's very, very beautiful because you have two children, but you still have to think once in a while. Now it's fucking enough with these two and two children, but you still have to think on a trip like this. Now it's fucking enough with these two.
Speaker 3:Well, of course you do. I don't think I ever would have put a doubt on it that Ballard was extremely high once in a while. But it's also because of love and it's because of passion, and it's those you love the most it goes beyond. Yes, that's how it is at home with us, and we have a lot of people that travel together, so it's you don't need that. There are also three that hang out it's a huge group of people 16-18 people that travel so we're just an extremely good, strong music family with great tolerance for each other and understanding.
Speaker 3:It takes living and have you always been agreeable about music. No, we have many different. No, for Søren, it's been Gnags, the, the Modern Talking, klaus, howard Jones, depeche Mode, rené, rick Astley as number one. Wow, it's like all this magic that has emerged via us. Four, yes, but the thing that I'm really sad about is that when we stop in 2008, we're starting with the third album. Yes, and that was punk pop. And that was just me.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Because then it was Green Day. There were all these college bands from the USA who started to spit music out.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:And we just took it a little more poppy, but just as fucking cool and hard. And there were some songs that I was just glad to it, but they never came out, so it was like it was also a little sad.
Speaker 2:I can understand that. I didn't know the story About how you were stopped. I didn't know the story of how you were stopped. I didn't know that. I thought it was a fair decision to make.
Speaker 3:No, but wow it was probably also on time with a little stop, you also had to take a break.
Speaker 1:Yes, a little bit of children and a little bit of picket fence and station car and you get married and you get two children pretty quickly?
Speaker 2:Yes, we do In a moment.
Speaker 3:I call it yes, but that's the best thing I've done.
Speaker 2:Yes, you have two fantastic children.
Speaker 3:Thank you very much, you're welcome.
Speaker 2:So that's great, but what is it called? How the hell do they act in this? How can you have two children at the same time that you have to travel the world?
Speaker 3:You can say that you are holding a break, but still, yes, no, it's, we started. India came in 2004. Belgium came in 2006. Yes, we didn't start Aqua up again before 2008.
Speaker 2:No, okay.
Speaker 3:So we have I'm a full-on mama. I know that wasn't it no.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we have, I'm a full-on mama, I know that wasn't it.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no. But there are so many people who ask because I think when you see us on tour and play concerts, then people think we're all at home.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And it's just as I usually say. Other workplaces yeah, so we're at home for long periods and periods, and then we were out traveling a bit, but I think I handled it really well. I think so too. It was a few years. India demanded that. When I picked her up at school and I just jumped on her bare foot or something else, she thought was embarrassing that I walked 20 meters in front.
Speaker 2:Okay, but I think that's very normal for all children, isn't it?
Speaker 3:I think so too.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's been special for you, it's just it's such a embarrassing age. Yes, there's a moment where your parents aren't so cool, they're just embarrassing, no matter who they are. Yes, absolutely, that's what I think, I think that's very normal.
Speaker 3:Yes, it seems so.
Speaker 2:Yes, do you listen to music with your children?
Speaker 3:with your children. Yes, I actually hear. India loves to drive a car. She loves to drive tours. So there she puts music on and plays for me, and Billy shares music with me often, like at home, or we just sit and discuss music. And it's mega exciting. It's mega exciting to have that inspiration source for your children, like what they're listening to. Now. I can feel Abba is up and running again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's so cool and to be able to share that joy with humanity even that time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And Billy and I, kenny West also Black Beats a little bit heavy beats. And Kendrick Lamar he's very musical. It's very cool to hear him just sit and talk about his music. I think he also has an app where he puts a number in and then the apps separate them from each other.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's insane and he knows so much about it. It's so crazy that you can just take the tracks. Yes, it's super cool to hear isolated.
Speaker 3:I can't remember what it's called. No, we actually have it too. It's pretty insane. Yes, it is.
Speaker 2:Do you want your children to make music when you've been so big in the music industry? Øhm, ønsker man for sine børn At de skal Lave musik Når man har vært så? Når man har vært så stor, er så stor I musikbranchen.
Speaker 3:Hvis man vil, det Ja, så synes jeg Absolut Jeg Jeg visste da moren Sagde det virkelig meget I går.
Speaker 2:Ja, og det ved jeg godt, det gør vi alle sammen Med vores børn. Seet udefra virker det jo sindssygt hårdt.
Speaker 3:Men er det så meget hårdere end alt mulig er nå?
Speaker 1:Det ved jeg ikke. Nej, det har vi ikke prøvet. Nej, det har vi ikke prøvet så meget.
Speaker 2:Jeg har ikke haft så stor succes som I har.
Speaker 3:Nej, men altså det er jo mange niveauer at kunne arbejde med musik på.
Speaker 2:Ja, jeg ved bare for mit vedkomm. What's it like with music? Yes, I know just from my knowledge just that little success I've had with it. I'm not very good at that success and to be recognized like that. I don't care about that, despite the fact that it makes me feel good. But I don't care about that public. I'm actually very reserved. I am too. I think you also know that I'm far away from the press and the red-collar people.
Speaker 3:I like being private. I like being high and dark and mystical.
Speaker 2:I was trying to read about it. I was trying to find something I didn't know. Did you find?
Speaker 3:anything.
Speaker 2:No, no Because you know me Not really, also, because you don't talk about personal things as much. You've been pretty good at separating private life from your career, I think.
Speaker 3:Yes, but I'm also pleased when I first sit in an interview.
Speaker 2:I can see that. You come with two well-written pieces of paper where you say I need to have a little with me here.
Speaker 3:I can like it when I'm sitting in an interview that I give myself. So, it's not like now. I'm not telling a shit, it's just like I don't need to do it.
Speaker 2:So often no, and preferably with the music.
Speaker 3:Yes, it should preferably be a valid reason to do it.
Speaker 2:Ja, ja. Er det noget, der er naturligt, line, eller er det på grund af alle de interviews man har vært rundt og lavet I starten? Da har jeg nok vært på 10 radiostationer om dagen for at snakke om det samme, og det samme, og det samme, og det samme.
Speaker 3:Skør I bolden. Ja, you get. You get scared of the ball. Yes, or you do it for a while, you get fucking tired of talking about yourself yes, and you get quickly excited about the others yes, and the others all the way. Yes, it's hard.
Speaker 1:Yes, it just does it. It's a killer. Yes, promotion is a killer?
Speaker 3:Yes, it just does, it's a killer. Promotion is a killer. You make music to come out and play music to make people happy with the music, not to sit and talk about themselves.
Speaker 2:And that's what I mean by, as I asked before, if you actually enjoy it more now, 5-27 years later, where you play a lot and you have an insane energy and it seems like there's a great joy about playing now, right?
Speaker 3:Yes, we've always said to each other as long as we think it's fun, we'll do it, and I can't help but say that I enjoy it which I've never, done yes. And I think Søren does that too. It seems like that, and I think that's what Søren does.
Speaker 2:It seems like that. Yes, it seems like that, yes.
Speaker 3:And it's. It's about coming out and seeing the world with these people coming to Australia, having time to see something, having time to do something, being allowed to meet and then getting close to Australian people in a different way than when you travel on vacation.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:It's a huge gift.
Speaker 2:And is it also another angle of entry for the public, I think today than it was for 72 years ago. I'm aware that people are just as passionate today, but they're not as hysterical as they were then.
Speaker 3:No, that's also a great thing.
Speaker 2:Because they've also become adults.
Speaker 3:Yes, they've also become adults, Many of them, and it's fun to look at like USA and Australia now. Now they have their children with them.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's fun.
Speaker 3:They've passed on to generations that are infected.
Speaker 2:In any case, they're pulling in to see or show them Now it's here, you must see it, and then you've also had a proper boom for the young. Again, after the film came, you went number one in the USA.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, did we, yes, didn't we? No, we did, yes, we did. And Grammy. Or what was it nominated there too? Yes, that't you? No, we did, yes, we did, we did and Grammy or what was it nominated there as well?
Speaker 2:Yes, that was exciting. So there's still some. There's still some real fire in it.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's what I have to say. Have you seen the movie?
Speaker 1:Yes, I have I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3:I have seen it. Yes, I have to see it, yes. Yes, it is A little, isn't it A little, isn't it? But?
Speaker 2:it might know very well about how you feel about it. Everything is pink.
Speaker 3:Yes, Normally it's always there with the fame and all that. I've had it like that. I've probably seen it in the movie on a certain point. So it's now yes, you're fantastic, we're people who play the main role, so you can only be happy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's a good movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think so, I think so yeah.
Speaker 2:We enjoyed it In any case. Yeah, it's not a movie that you can watch In any way. So, yeah, I think it was a good movie. Yeah, yeah, lene, are you going to play it now?
Speaker 3:I think. I think it's just a matter of taking a little bit of the time. Yes, and right now, søren and I have started to think a little bit about Søren and I. We talk about it every day. We live next to each other, we have two children.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:And we have talked a little bit about keeping the holidays free. Yes, that's a little important.
Speaker 2:We feel at have been winter clothes, it's not going so well right now.
Speaker 3:It's not going, it's become a sour rector yes, so, we're going to play a little less, but good jobs yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, so I'm standing in front of these big Royal Arena and things like that for the year to come. Yes, and we have exciting news on the way too.
Speaker 3:I'm a little happy that it's coming out, but I can't say I'm looking forward to hearing about it.
Speaker 2:I'm looking forward to hearing about it. I'm looking forward to hearing about it. I'm looking forward to hearing about it. Could you record records again in Aqua, could you? Record records again in Aqua. Could you record records again in Aqua, I think?
Speaker 3:there are many bands that play.
Speaker 2:I think there are many bands that play all the things people loved back then, all the things people loved back then. But you don't want to when you're out to Folk elskede den gang. Men får man ikke lyst når man nu er ude at se det til at måske lave en ny plade.
Speaker 3:Ja, det er en evig rundsnak, som Sønderjag har sammen. Jeg ved ikke, om Jeg tror, ham og Klau sammen er Aqua.
Speaker 1:Ja, wow, ja, ja og det. Jeg tror I think him and Klau, together are Aqua. Yes, wow, yes.
Speaker 3:Yes, and I think I have to be careful with what I say.
Speaker 2:No, you shouldn't.
Speaker 1:But I'm not saying anything bad at all.
Speaker 3:It's just that I don't have any over the top. But no, I think we have it so well in what we do, yes, and it works. Yes, and it works.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:And I don't think there will be anything new.
Speaker 2:No, but it was also the magic, the mystery I had with the two of them to write music. Yes, namely that you have to remember that you get something from it when you have more about it, right, yes you do.
Speaker 3:Søren has so much music in him. I miss him not writing anymore, because I love his songwriting.
Speaker 1:Yes, me too.
Speaker 3:And I love the way he can tell how he has it through a text.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:It's like in our relationship. He comes home every other day and the first thing I hear when he comes in the door is I wrote a hit yes, and then you're going to hear it and the piano, and you know that's a good term, yeah, yeah that's a good term I don't understand. When I hear the Heimatmatik-blad, then it's so, it's Heimatmatik's music, then it's like I understand him so well. I understand the feelings he's in, what he's going through, I don't cry at all. I don't cry at all. I love him.
Speaker 2:We were together the other day where we listened to music.
Speaker 3:Really nice.
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 3:something with the grey seat? Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2:Completely fantastic song he's made Completely fantastic, really has made. I just wanted to say that Completely fantastic, really well put together.
Speaker 3:That's what he can do.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is so that's what you have to say Absolutely.
Speaker 3:So he makes a little. Yes, he does. He makes a little even though he doesn't really want to be part of it.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's just not the aqu. Yes, fair enough. Yes, absolutely. And Lene, what Now? You started as a three or four-year-old with singing in seventh grade. So seriously, Was that all you dreamed of At one point? Was that what you had in mind?
Speaker 3:I don't think I, I don't think I ever dreamed so big. No, I was just sure that I wanted to leave. I wasn't supposed to fall into a certain pattern, I was just supposed to get away in a different way.
Speaker 2:You weren't supposed to just have a job in a local shop. No, I wanted to see the world.
Speaker 3:I wanted to go out and experience something. I've been so proud of myself that my that she remembers. When I was 12 years old that I said to her when I get rich, I'm going to buy you this. I had a feeling that I was going to make it, you know, and then one way or another, like a really smart teenager or on the way to becoming.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But I've always had a good feeling of being patient, of being very patient and waiting instead of being calm.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, actually.
Speaker 2:It's a good trait, I think.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just that.
Speaker 3:That you don't pace it too much?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly that. You're like Taking the time.
Speaker 3:Yes, I think I'm a patient quite far away. Yes, I'm very calm and overconfident.
Speaker 1:That's what I have to admit.
Speaker 2:Yes, Is it natural or is it something that hasn't happened? All that you've been through, I've always been like that.
Speaker 3:You've always been like that. Yes, I got my teenage uproar in the 30s.
Speaker 2:Yes, I did that myself.
Speaker 3:It wasn't until 10 years ago, when I was still in Aqua. I always went to bed, was a normal girl, it was me who was going to sing the next day, and then in the 30s, I was just like fuck this shit.
Speaker 2:Rebel yell. You know what that's how? It was for me Very, very late uproar. I don't have any teenage uproar. I'm cute, decent. Yeah, pleaser, yeah, very pleaser. I know most people wouldn't believe it, but it's really. I'm really my mother's boy, but something happens around the last 20-30 minutes where I'm all out.
Speaker 3:Hat on the floor.
Speaker 2:Yes, the casket is completely on fire. That's funny. So we've had some similarities there. You could say yes, you've always been the sweet pretty girl, haven't you?
Speaker 3:Yes, but when we talk about pleasing, it's extremely important for me that people around me are doing well. And regardless of whether I'm on the head in the pub or at your delicious bar, I always try to behave properly anyway. Yes, at least Like no one else. Yes, like no one else.
Speaker 2:We don't have to be a whole lot of money, no that's right. No, but it's funny that pleaser gene there. I think it's really funny because it's something we've talked a lot about at home, because we're in this industry where you service so many people every weekend, but it's also a service you make of the music and such. There are many people who need to be pleased all the time, yes, and they need to experience the very best side of you all the time.
Speaker 3:Hasn't it been difficult? Yes, sometimes it can, of course, be difficult. I think it's extremely many times I've reacted in a way I mean negatively, yes. I think it's extremely, too many times I've reacted in a way Like Negatively, yeah, and then I've taken it Against Søren or Against René or Like Another side yeah, internally, instead of yeah. Yeah, because it's fucking sad that you have to Dispute a fan's day, or that something Is on the stage Because you're pissed or Dirty fans to have, or that something is on stage because you're pissed or dirty.
Speaker 2:But it's also a sin to neglect your day.
Speaker 3:Well, that doesn't happen, no, no, then you have to just turn the ball around and think about it, because that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2:No, I understand, they're just cute. Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 3:We just have our moments.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I understand that, but mine is in such a small form compared to what you've been through.
Speaker 3:The feeling is still the same.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what I mean. It can be insanely stressful for me at the club here or the little football I played that time or, for that matter, Music has never been such a big burden for me. It has always been positive because it has been underground things instead, so it has been people who were really interested. It has not been on a fan base, as it's been underground things instead of so it's been people who were really interested. It's not been on a fan base as it has been, but I've had. I think it's been incredibly difficult to be on the target for people's.
Speaker 2:What do you call?
Speaker 1:it, the demand for Interest, yes.
Speaker 2:I think that's quite strange. It is something that must be linked, but the the demand for it, the interest.
Speaker 3:Yes, I think that's quite strange. Yes, but it is something that one has to get along with at some point At the beginning. It's mega exciting.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:And then it becomes extremely overwhelming. I couldn't go on a stroll. I couldn't. It's the idea. I couldn't go to family in Tivoli. I had to have bodyguards with me. If I could go out to the city, yes, and I buried myself up in my house in Hornbæk.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:With two meters, three meters of hay around my own house? Yes, Because I actually am. I can just be alone.
Speaker 1:You are private, I am very private, I am private.
Speaker 3:But there's a part of it all. There's a part of the park. I love talking to my fans. Now we have meet and greet before every concert, and the stories that you didn't dare to take in because there were too many of them or too much noise are the finest stories. What music can do? There were too many of them or too much noise. It's one of the finest stories. What music can do like colourful pop, music with wild videos can do for people there's a whole lot of videos.
Speaker 3:How many people have helped. It warms me and then it's worth it.
Speaker 2:And then it's a little rarer now. Yeah, that's it. You take it in a little better you take it in again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, In a whole other way and you enjoy it and you get to talk to people much longer than you could once. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then there's probably not as much of the hidden as I think there must have been so much of what's there with you. But I think on that level, as you have been known, or as you have been known and are, there must also be some where you think what is it they want from me? These people, yes, I have. Do you want to talk to them? Because of me or because I'm in that position? I am right now.
Speaker 3:I've never gone that far, when I started in this industry and came to the Monica Music Award and suddenly sat together with Steven Seagal and all kinds of famous people from all over the world who I've seen on TV or seen in movies other musicians- I was so embarrassed. And it was actually the first time I was there, where I was sitting next to Prince Albert, where I just had to find a way to survive this. So I started to think, and what you always hear, everyone is just as insecure as you are, so I started to collect to find.
Speaker 3:Always hear, or as insecure as you are, yes, so I begin to collect, find out, because I'm bright enough. So while I'm in conversation, I begin to find out. What is it you're hiding behind? Yes, what is it you're insecure about? So I call people in the sweetest way only in my opinion, but from each other, so that I can love and love.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:And then I also understand how I should get in to humanity.
Speaker 1:Does that make sense? Yes, it does.
Speaker 3:So it's like I'm unweakening myself with.
Speaker 2:To attack, to attack mentally, yes, yes.
Speaker 3:While I'm in a conversation, and that has made me a really good person. I understand people pretty quickly.
Speaker 2:And you can understand who wants something good.
Speaker 3:Yes, as a rule Not right now. No, for heaven's sake, you're fucking far out now.
Speaker 2:It's great to hear Line. I think about it so often. When we're together, you can't Still. It's a day today. It's hard to be at peace.
Speaker 3:It's always In relation to Diff, it's nothing. I'm a bit lower in the terrain, yes, but I think I've never had a bad comment or someone who said shouted something horrible. No, I can't remember at all, and it's just love. If people have something to see, then it's just love. Sometimes you can feel that people say something because they say something stupid or stupid just to get. They say something stupid just to get started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just to get started. Yeah, exactly, they don't get to reveal it like you do.
Speaker 3:No, that was a strange thing to say.
Speaker 2:But it's really funny what you're saying, because you say you hide a little when it's there. Yeah, you do that when we're in town. It's not a secret that we're in town together. I'm standing in the corner, but still until a certain point.
Speaker 3:Yes, then I'm all over the place.
Speaker 2:And I do the same thing. I'm also always in the corner until a certain point, and then I'm obviously going to create myself at some point, yes, but I love when you create. There are so many things that work out, but it's terrible. No, it's not, but it's funny when we both sit and talk about that, we're actually embarrassed, and a little. You're not so embarrassed anymore in our age You've learned to be good, but we should both show ourselves when it's time.
Speaker 3:Yes, what was that? I think I said it once that we are genius exhibitionists. Yes, or something.
Speaker 2:That's what you said, right when we met. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3:And then it's also good that we don't remember anything the next day.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm very doubtful about why. I think there can be more reasons for that. I think so. It's both selective and mixed with all sorts of things. What's going to?
Speaker 3:happen now, Lene.
Speaker 2:You've just turned 50.
Speaker 3:Yes, I have 50 and a half. 50 and a half.
Speaker 2:Think how funny it would be if we started with that. 51 and a half. 50 and a half, that's the first number.
Speaker 3:Think how funny it is when you start with the game. Yeah, yeah, exactly 51.
Speaker 2:51, three quarters.
Speaker 1:Three quarters yeah.
Speaker 3:Six months, yeah. Now there's not so much going on that I'm going to keep a little bit more free. And then we're going to play in Jelling Festival, yeah, and. And then we go to Mexico, and then it just goes all the way up to Arena and Boxing in November.
Speaker 2:Wow, what's going to happen with Lene Nystrøm?
Speaker 3:With Lene Nystrøm. It's exciting. I never know, no, so I'm thinking about what I'm going to become when I grow up. Yes, I'm doing that myself. Yes, it's great that I don't know Right now. I think I'm starting to get a little more home to Norway again. Yes, how long has it been? I think it's been ten years since I've worked there. The last thing I did there was the Voice, yes, so I'd like to go home again and feel that I'm actually Norman.
Speaker 2:Yes, and what about the acting? Because? You've done a lot of things as a actor in Norway, among other things. There's a whole series I don't know who, yeah.
Speaker 3:I know that Netflix is starting to cast a lot of series out of Norway now via Netflix and they're starting to cast around there. So I thought maybe I should try to look at it, would you?
Speaker 2:like to do a little more.
Speaker 3:Yes, if it is, I don't want to say no to that. It's just that these years that we've been touring since 2008,. It's really hard to get someone else in.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:At least you know a year in advance. Yes, exactly, and the single season in Kloven? Yes, I was so lucky to be able to be there.
Speaker 3:It was mega fun.
Speaker 2:It was fucking fun, yes it was fucking fun.
Speaker 3:Just red and green hair. Yes, it's just you.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's just me yes, it hair. Yes, it's just like you. Yes, just like me. Yes, just rags and green hair.
Speaker 3:Yes, just like me.
Speaker 2:Yes, because it's a bit funny that there are a lot of things in Norway you've participated in, but we don't know you as well as the actors at home.
Speaker 3:No, is it something you've?
Speaker 2:learned yourself, or have you tried to do something about it? How did the opportunity arise?
Speaker 3:I would really like. After I got Billy in 2006, I got Søren and the children and Clausen and Ren and his wife.
Speaker 1:Yes, but Søren was there at home, so it was a child.
Speaker 3:Yes, so it was, yes, a little bit of a change of roles.
Speaker 3:So I came home and I was with Anne Lindberg yes. And then I was sent out with a wild card to Ole Borndal's Frihetsvarte Unnen yes, and it was actually such a director that had to have Ole Thomsen, I think, if he didn't find some fresh cards. But then I was casted and Ole wasn't there. He got the tape and then I was called in the next day with a spotlight in my head and grilled up and down in all feelings, and then it was. It went on for a few days. I started smoking cigarettes there. Yeah, yeah, I really wanted to have that role.
Speaker 2:So you started smoking there. I started smoking there.
Speaker 3:I can remember I dragged around in the ocean and smoked cigarettes. So stupid yeah.
Speaker 1:Never smoked before. No, it was completely crazy.
Speaker 3:They were supposed to be Ulle Bondal's birthday, and I threw a cigarette up. But then he calls a few days later and then he says well, that's one, and I I mean that I had done myself, it was my own achievement, so it was a huge, huge honor for me. Yeah, I think it must be it's another recognition to get right away.
Speaker 2:Kæmpe, kæmpe stort for mig. Ja, det tænker jeg, må jo være. Det er jo en anden anerkendelse at få, lige pludselig, hvor du ikke er en del af noget andet. Nu er det altså dig kun, der udstiller sig selv eller ikke udstiller sig selv, men det er din person som klarer hele den her opgave.
Speaker 3:Ja, det var kæmpe stort. He had been clapping his knees before I came in, and I laughed that now Aqualine was coming Is that true. Yes, I know that. Yes, so it's like that. And that's a little bit like all the way around on set also the light man, the light man, everything is a little bit like that. So it's like you have to find out if you should please everyone here on set yes.
Speaker 3:It took me a while to figure out that I don't need to convince anyone else other than those who are around the cream room and Lysmann he's very important.
Speaker 2:He's always nice. It's because you will always be Aqualene.
Speaker 3:Oh yes, and I've been so happy with that.
Speaker 2:But you'll always be in the same setting as you started somewhere, right?
Speaker 3:Yes, absolutely, and it does me a favor. I can love a fight yes, yes, I'm very good at a fight. I know yes, I know but it's like I really like to use myself. I really like to go hard to work, but I usually feel that I'm really out in some corners in myself where I've used myself mentally and where I really feel myself exhausted all the way through.
Speaker 2:Do you get to understand yourself better?
Speaker 3:I think that yes, and then the corner of his mind. I think that's extremely nice to notice, because I think we go into hiding very often from certain parts of our brain, or maybe even a little in society or in environments where we don't need to look at it or be pressed out of it. We create very delicate, fine, still calm, perfect, harmonious, rich lives. We're living the good life.
Speaker 1:Yes absolutely.
Speaker 3:So I think it's very exciting to find out how long I can test myself, how long I can press myself how long I? Can push myself. Yes, wow, yes. Yes, it's not always a nice sight. No, I think so.
Speaker 2:No, I know that well for myself. That's how it is, but you have to go through something to get better.
Speaker 3:Yes, you have to.
Speaker 2:To learn to know yourself. It takes many years. I think it takes a long time. It does, and to be aware of how you are and to understand how hard it is to change, I think, how you are.
Speaker 3:Yes, and to reprogram your heart. It's hard. Have you been good at it? No, not at all. No, no, I at all, no, no. I can't say that I really try to the mistakes that I feel the most like that really irritate me the most. I really try to put it off.
Speaker 1:Yes, I do yes.
Speaker 3:Because you don't want to be irritating? No, but you can't avoid it all, can you? No, you can't. You can't man. I fall in every time yeah. I also fall in often.
Speaker 2:Even if I try to really say, oh, now you have to simply yeah, that you have to get rid of, or that you have to do, but what?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it it's so deep how you are. A spun platform. Right, it's the link first. It's fucking hard.
Speaker 2:It's hard to get rid of. Yeah it is, but as long as we are good people and do as well as we can.
Speaker 3:We have to try to do as well as we can At least, At least yes, then they have to be happy with it.
Speaker 2:Yes, then they have to be happy with it. Yes, they have to be happy with it. Lene, is there anything on the chair that we haven't talked about?
Speaker 3:Well, here it's just like no, Because here it's just stickers.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I mean music stickers. It could be that I haven't been very good at talking about any of it, no, but it's To ask about any of it.
Speaker 3:It's so nice. I mean I, I don't know, there are so many.
Speaker 2:It's a long career.
Speaker 3:It's a long career.
Speaker 2:And it's a long life and a long career as a child?
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly Will you?
Speaker 2:grow up. What Will you grow up?
Speaker 3:I hope I'll never grow up. No, no.
Speaker 2:You have to admit it, if you can feel it. Yes, yes, then I won't call anymore. No, then it's over.
Speaker 3:Let's get in.
Speaker 2:When you don't get any more messages then it's because you've grown up.
Speaker 3:Then I've become boring.
Speaker 2:And otherwise it can be because I've also grown up. I should probably say that to you. Yes that's good To finish. Lene, I've asked everyone once we're leaving here and there's a difference in how you're going to bury yourself and what you're going to say- but buried to the ceremony.
Speaker 3:Is there going to be music?
Speaker 1:for.
Speaker 3:Line Nystrøm's funeral. You almost know where this is coming from. I hope people drink a lot of vodka and have a huge party. Yes, I think it's enormously sad that people are sad about my death. Why? Well, because Hopefully I've lived the best of the world and a long life.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:So nothing should be sad. Yes, you'll miss me a little bit, if I'm lucky A lot Now.
Speaker 2:It's enough. I'm enough away from you. I think you should.
Speaker 3:Play good, energetic music Instead of Too much melancholy, which puts people In an even more sad way.
Speaker 2:Yes, Isn't there something beautiful about it? It's a more sad way, yes, yes, but isn't there also something beautiful?
Speaker 3:about it. It's a little sad. Yes, I can. Just I think it's my pleasing game again. I can hardly keep my thoughts when people are sitting there and so your funeral is to please, simply because people are good at it. And when they're sitting and grieving.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I hope they're all happy. Yes, yeah, I hope they're all happy.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, and the food will be good and it will be a good party.
Speaker 2:That's so funny. So the police gene will follow you all the way. Yeah, it will.
Speaker 3:It will reach out all the coffin. Yeah, in the invisible.
Speaker 2:Are there any numbers that mean more to you than others? I know there are, but are there any you can think of?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so police, every breath you take, than others? I know there are, but are there any you can think of? Yes, so Police, every Breath you Take, every time it starts. So, no matter how much I hear it, so it gives me total goosebumps Me too.
Speaker 2:But the funny thing is, it's just you always as youngsters at least I did I thought it was a love song. Yes, I thought it was a love song. It's the most awful song. Tell me it's about a stalker, okay, you didn't know that no, are you serious?
Speaker 3:You ruined it all.
Speaker 2:It's true, it's about a stalker?
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:It's not about the beautiful. It can be a beautiful couple, but it's not. No, it's just someone stalker. Okay, it's not about the beautiful. Well, it can be a beautiful relationship but it's not no. It's not. It's simply someone who wants to follow you.
Speaker 3:It's completely out of place now. But yes, now I'm going to.
Speaker 1:Now I'm going to listen to it again. Yes, just that yes, but I've had a feeling for that song?
Speaker 2:Yes, there are many years in it. It's just a good feeling, it's just a fantastic Small number, it's all great but if you Listen between the lines, then it's something else that matters, of course.
Speaker 3:I'll take that with me.
Speaker 2:Yes, so, yes, but that's good, lene, I would say Thank you so much For being with us. Thank you.
Speaker 3:It's been such a pleasure. In the same way.
Speaker 2:And I'm really really happy to have understood the most.
Speaker 3:Yes, For once, right? Yes, it's usually two vodkas before you understand. I always speak better on a vodka shirt.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's right. I don't know if I do.
Speaker 3:Today I'm on a cola. I speak at least more. Yes.
Speaker 2:Tusen takk for det, Lene.
Speaker 3:Takk for det, min vän.
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