27 | "Headhunter" Higgins & "$awbuck" Mike | Video Games, Religion and Psyop's | "They Are Corroding Our Rights By Infecting The Youth"

Could video games be the Rosetta Stone to unraveling our planet's most enigmatic conspiracies? Buckle up for a thrilling odyssey where we navigate the shadowy nexus of gaming and conspiracy theories, from the potential truths hidden within "Baldur's Gate 3" and "Overwatch" to the hollow earth theory. It could turn your reality inside out, literally.

We shed light on the chilling implications of TikTok's potential role in global psyops and the unnerving thought that our own devices could be the eyes and ears of a far-reaching surveillance state. The conversation gets even more riveting as we explore eerie connections between pivotal events in 1968, George W. Bush's Skull and Bones graduation, and the unnerving Havana Syndrome. The truth might be just a play button away.

Our journey culminates with a thought-provoking foray into the lives of grand historical figures like Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci, as we ponder the secrets they may have taken to their graves. We then clash swords in the virtual battlefields of a medieval warfare strategy video game, where moral dilemmas and empire-building collide. It's a mind-bending session that will leave you questioning what's a game and what's reality.

Transcript

"$awbuck" Mike: 0:01

The Nephilim sightings are going to start soon.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 0:04

Consciousness has been enslaved.

"$awbuck" Mike: 0:06

Your consciousness does not need your physical body to survive. It's the thing that's necessary. It has to be there. It's the coding that projects this world we currently live in. I want you to read the Bible.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 0:19

We got reptilians just outside of our frequency zone.

"$awbuck" Mike: 0:22

Six dimensional beings, the ancient builder race. Ideas are the highest form of intelligence, and that leads you to truth and clarity. The Nephilim sightings are going to stall soon. Conspiracy show. It's obvious. The aliens are god-fearing and insanely huge. We're just one planet. They would have needed a minimum of six feet of lead shielding in order to get through the 25,000 mile thick of nl and radiation belt. This is real. They really did fake the moon. The world is infinitely older than that, and I mean the world with human beings in it, skull and bones, is like one of the villains in the legion of doom, they said.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 0:57

I'll let you read the bible the biblical flood, the tartaria mud flood conspiracy and chill the nephilim sightings are going to start soon.

"$awbuck" Mike: 1:05

The bulldog ball. I don't want you to read the bible.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 1:08

There's magnets in the basketballs. There was a political party, a third party called the anti-masonic party, at a point in uh in the united states, the global pandemic treaty conspiracy and chill podcast.

"$awbuck" Mike: 1:24

All right, it's just two of us. Which is going to be a more common thing giving the fans?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 1:28

what they want.

"$awbuck" Mike: 1:29

So a few things we talked about. Talking about that's a weird fucking sentence. I have been wasting oh, wasting is a weird word, but that's a harsh word. I have been spending so much time lately, bro, playing bould Baldur's Gate 3 for the PS5. It's a Dungeons and Dragons game. It's easily the best role-playing game I've ever played, and I was a, you know, massive Skyrim fan. But this is just, it's different. It's a totally different kind of role-playing experience than Skyrim. But oh my god, dude, like I have, I'm like 49 hours in, like when I save and it tells you how many hours, and I'm probably a third of the way through and there's no sign of slowing down, bro, it's, it's bad.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 2:17

I've clocked some despicable amounts of hours into games in my life and uh, yeah, they were fun. You know, I enjoyed playing the games and it's an interesting way to unwind sometimes, and especially when you're younger and you got nothing better to do and I would just train, train, train and when I was exhausted then I would just game away and uh, I don't know, maybe you could say it's a waste of time, a lot of the time with with how much other shit you could be doing. But yeah, I was a elder scrolls online fiend, halo fiend. Elder scrolls online took up a lot of time, but that was some of the funnest gaming I've ever done and we can get into later why it's a a waste of time or a psyop, or you know the conditioning in video games. I was just playing fucking overwatch. It's not a game I play often. I don't really like it. I don't. I only shooter. I like is halo and I play some like, like games like Bannerlord and stuff like that.

"$awbuck" Mike: 3:07

What the fuck is Bannerlord, it's a mountain blade.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 3:10

It's probably the best game ever.

"$awbuck" Mike: 3:11

To be honest, Really.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 3:13

You get to control like a soldier, but you can also get a party of like a. You build up like an army of all these different cultures and cultures and it's fucking sick. It's like you get the god mode, like control of the army, like where you can command and like move around the map, but you also get to be one of the warriors and like upgrade them and have them and like be on the field fighting sword and shield and like commanding your troops to go wherever it's. It's extremely tactical and fucking awesome. What I was going to say is I was making fun of, but I was. It was too easy.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 3:41

While playing overwatch, I was like my friends were getting me to play it and I was just having some fun. You know, or trying to, I don't game a lot. I was like breaking down the illuminati and mason symbolism in overwatch and there was just countless examples of I just had like the they live glass sound like. Oh, look at this symbol. Oh, wow, look, they put this here perfectly just around. But I was serious. Gaming is definitely one of the main weapons on our, our minds in a way, as fun as it is, we both like gaming.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 4:09

We can't be fucking fully detached in a way, we still got a life to live and not go fully fucking nuts, you know everything is a psyop, but we need to have our few psyops that we can enjoy while knowing it's a psyop no doubt, bro, I'm about to go all in.

"$awbuck" Mike: 4:22

I mean, there's no sight of me slowing down. I love that fucking game. Some trivia, some, uh, some numbers here. So boulders gate 3 was released august of last year, 2023. Guess how many millions of copies it has sold? Now, it's not a staggering number by any means. This is the company that released it, produced it and created it is called lyrian, and they're a relatively small company, so this is easily the biggest game they've ever put out. So take a guess on how many millions of copies it sold and, as I said, it's not a staggering number, but it is absolutely 10, 10 million.

"$awbuck" Mike: 5:01

Ten Ten million.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 5:03

Ten million.

"$awbuck" Mike: 5:03

Yeah, very respectable, very, very respectable. Now, contrast that with Skyrim, which was released on, of course, november 2011. 11-11.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 5:15

Yeah.

"$awbuck" Mike: 5:15

So how many millions of copies do you think Skyrim has sold, and all this takes into account?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 5:21

And they've released it like yeah, all the re-releases, all the platforms all the re-releases this is more impressive 100 million, 60 million.

"$awbuck" Mike: 5:31

Wow, that's a lot of fucking video games, bro. A lot is another impressive number. I told you I logged about 49 hours on boulders gate 3, but when I look and I haven't played skyrim probably in a year, but when I look at the hours on skyrim I'm at 480 something, which is pretty impressive off the charts and then when my son, he's into this game called genshin impact and he's logged over 900 hours.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 6:03

It's just like fuck dude, like yeah, a work week is 40 hours you know like think about that gaming is the main pastime of uh people nowadays n64 and like solo games and shit like that. When we were young, that shit was fun. It was not, as you know, readily available. You wanted to game with your friends. You had to go to their house, like, and if you were gaming you were just trying to like beat a task. You weren't just like fully fucking immersed in another world escapism. Yeah, you were like adhd focusing on something else, like trying to beat this platformer game. But you know what I mean? It wasn't just like another world to fucking escape into, like some of these super advanced games and just endless fucking hours of uh battle royale shooters, just like. I don't know, I miss the old gaming.

"$awbuck" Mike: 6:54

Play some old platformers and like toy story fucking n64 or whatever like goofball game that's super hard to get a hold of nowadays so there's an n64 game and I almost didn't graduate high school because of this game, because my friends and I we would leave school early and we would go play this game, because it was the first of its kind first person shooter where you could play on the same console four people versus each other. Do you know what game I'm talking about?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 7:28

Was it Halo?

"$awbuck" Mike: 7:29

It was not, it was before Halo. Halo was an Xbox thing.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 7:32

GoldenEye.

"$awbuck" Mike: 7:33

GoldenEye. Yes, sir, ding ding ding Brutal. Fucking 007, goldeneye bro man, that game. I still remember the facility, the complex. I mean these are levels that are To this day. I can hear certain songs, like, for instance, when I was like 10 years old we lived in an apartment and I remember playing Super Mario 2.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 7:57

And.

"$awbuck" Mike: 7:58

I remember putting on certain cassette tapes back then, and if I hear the song today, it can take me to that place when I was a 10-year-old kid playing that game, the power of music dude, there's nothing like it, you know.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 8:11

It is weird how we can immediately be brought back to a certain sense, whether it was from a song or a sound or a smell or a location or whatever. The fuck can bring you back to that feeling that you had. I'm sure there's a name for that phenomenon.

"$awbuck" Mike: 8:26

I'm sure you know who would probably know the name of that phenomenon, who seems to know a lot of shit that people don't really seem to catch on to what he's doing until years later. Who Brooks Agnew, former guest.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 8:38

Yeah, we got to get him as a return guest.

"$awbuck" Mike: 8:40

No doubt so for people that are listening right now that may not have heard our previous episode we're referring to With Brooks Agnew. Brooks Agnew is, first off, he's a fucking super smart dude. He's an engineer, brilliant guy. To sum it up quickly, he is known for Hollow Earth. However, it's not so much that he's like this big proponent in Hollow Earth, he is a science guy and he was explaining on the podcast to Tom and I how there was this expedition in the North Pole region and one of the ways they're able to track some kind of science is through the stingrays. I guess remember what he was saying, how their species is very, or certain stingrays are very sensitive and delicate to certain changes, so they're able to kind of tell certain things from that. Well, he was explaining how years ago there was this anomaly where there was thousands of stingrays that have since been extinct, and so from that he was postulating that there has to be an inner Earth Ocean.

"$awbuck" Mike: 9:42

And the reason why I'm bringing this up is because recently I shared an article that I came across with Tom. It has since been published on a few different websites. It looks like he's kind of been proven correct here. Look at the headline of this Gigantic ocean discovered 700 kilometers below Earth's surface Holds three times more water than all oceans combined. Let me read the first paragraph. Check this out, it's legitimate. Researchers at northwestern university at evan state, illinois, have discovered a massive subterranean ocean three times the size of earth surface oceans hidden beneath the earth's crust, the planet's crust, challenging existing theories on the origin of earth's water. So northwestern university, that's no fucking minor league school, they're elite. So dude, to me that's just kind of like fucking right, that's nuts.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 10:39

It opens up so many possibilities well, brooks pretty much said as much, as far as a bunch of academic people being uh on board with what he was figuring out and agreeing with him. He essentially said as much too, that there was like a a massive amount of hollow terrain detected within the studies and shit like miles and miles and miles, so to say it's bigger than the other oceans too.

"$awbuck" Mike: 11:03

Yeah, I mean nothing surprising to hear now and do you, I mean everybody should know that people should be having conversations about that. Like people should know that. You know my mom should be calling me being like michael. Did you know? You know? Like people should know this shit instead like be cool, right, dude.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 11:18

And what if there's a godzilla gonna step out?

"$awbuck" Mike: 11:21

no doubt, you're in my head because I was gonna ask you. There's a difference between me asking you what do you think's possible and what do you think is likely possible. So what do you think is likely down inside of the earth, knowing that all of this, this water is there, and what water is the basis for life?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 11:43

fuck, dude, probably all types of crazy ass, ancient sea life and probably some sort of atlantis or nephilim, slash, anunnaki or sea kingdom type of thing, or like the nazi inner earth theory of hollow earth bases and shit like that or like a another ecosystem within. I'm open to anything, dude. I think it's just not. It's not what they're telling us.

"$awbuck" Mike: 12:06

If they say, oh well, it's just a dead ocean or something like yeah, no, there's, there's more to it see, I used to think that aliens called the ocean their homes because of all the USO sightings and so many people claiming to see UFOs rise and descend into water. And now I'm kind of been leaning towards them perhaps residing inside of the earth. And I'm not saying that's all of them, because I don't believe that all of them reside there. I I don't even know if, I don't even believe they're all in the same dimension, but I think the ones that are terrestrial, I think that they do reside inside of the hollow earth.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 12:46

I I mean, that's what the evidence shows, yeah just as many mythology or like origin tales or like folklore and shit, has the deities or gods or beings coming from the sky, you know, coming down from the sky, which they always purport to be aliens. There's just as many of them coming out of the sea or reportedly were reported to have come from the sea, and quite a few underground tales as well too. So yeah, man, all bets are on. Are they extra-dimensional? The majority of the beings that interact with Earth and that we talk about on this type of show? Is it outer space aliens flying here from another place? Is it things that live underground on our world that have lived here for the longest time? Is it an ancient being from the ocean? Is it demons? Is it angels? Who the fuck knows, man?

"$awbuck" Mike: 13:33

Brooks knows we're here for it all.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 13:35

He does seem to think that they're extraterrestrials, yeah.

"$awbuck" Mike: 13:38

That's a fun one. We do have to get him back If for anything else, just so we can come on here and gloat for a little bit. You know, he also mentioned during our conversation that he he tried to get funding for like a TV show, remember, Right? Yeah, I wonder if this would help that you would think that that would help the cause.

"$awbuck" Mike: 13:55

You know this recent finding, so yeah we got questions for Brooks, we got to get him back on. So psyops Okay, when I say psyops are a fairly recent creation, you have to let me explain. Obviously, psyops have been going on for forever, forever. In the bible there are psyops. What I mean is the term psyop is thrown around in everyday language now right, very, very liberally. And that's what I mean by the the. You know, the psyops are kind of a new thing for people.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 14:33

It's like.

"$awbuck" Mike: 14:34

You know what I mean. It's a weird thing because people are using it. Everything is a psyop nowadays. People are saying so when I ask you the question is TikTok a psyop? I'm not being facetious, I'm not trying to be funny. I'm being honest, because there's a lot of real smart people in the know that seem to think and fucking seem to know that TikTok is a psyop. So I wanted to kind of talk to you about this and I don't know much about it. I did watch a podcast and General Robert Spalding was kind of talking about this, so I did take some, some notes that you know I could. I wanted to bounce off you and see what you think. So by no means am I an expert on this at all, but I did want to see where you were at with it now, I'm certainly no tiktok expert either.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 15:22

I don't have an account. A lot of people have told me I should make one, you know, content creating or whatever I do, and I, uh, probably should, but I really don't want to because I have felt that it's been a psyop all along. What is a psyop? A psychological operation which is designed to have an effect on the mind of the people who are the intended targets of it. I guess, yeah, I think it's made everybody who's fucking grew up on it and used it stupider and shorter attention span. And yeah, I'm sure there's good stuff on there too, but I'm sure majority of the time it's just dancing and ass shaking and just dumb ass stuff. And then taking data, taking all these facial apps and stuff like the aging challenges or whatever the filters, and it's it's textbook psyop, if you ask me.

"$awbuck" Mike: 16:07

Yes, I have never downloaded tiktok. I've never fucked with it. I've always, like you, thought it was a psyop. And, yeah, the show doesn't have one. I don't have one. You know, maybe if one day we're doing 50 million downloads per and we need to, fine, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. But until that time comes, no fucking tick tock for for this guy.

"$awbuck" Mike: 16:34

So check this out some of the things that I was able to find, some of the things I thought were amusing. So on reddit, I was able to find this interesting subreddit where the title is what does tick tock actually do? That so Bad? And the top comment on the thread is I'm starting to believe that TikTok is a form of Chinese hybrid warfare.

"$awbuck" Mike: 16:59

Is TikTok worse than the other hundred apps I have on my phone? I installed a firewall logger on my Android phone and saw things like Etsy app sending messages to Facebook when I was not even running the Etsy app and had not run it for months. Another app showing the phases of the moon was trying to send messages when I have not run the app for over six months. It looks to me like everything on my phone is trying to spy on me. What does the TikTok app do that makes it worse than the rest of these apps.

"$awbuck" Mike: 17:32

And then you know there's a couple of people that go on to mention some things that make it worse. But yeah, I mean, why do you? Why would you have, you know, etsy and a Moonphase app communicating with each other when you haven't used one of the apps in over half a year? So why wouldn't Etsy app need to talk to a moon phase app when the moon phase app hasn't even been used in six months, like when you're not even around, not even using it? There's no good reason for that creepy right. Yeah, some other things that I found that I wanted to share with you and get your thoughts on. So this guy on x says tiktok is a communist chinese brainwashing psyop to trick american children into opposing us foreign policy. It's like havana syndrome for big tech alumni. What do you think they?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 18:20

can make it whatever the hell they want. And the surveillance shit scares me like dude. Nothing is private anymore. They're fucking, you know bank account. They're fucking social media. They're, uh, political beliefs. They're the things that they type on their phone, the things that they search type of porn they watch. They, they know what screenshots. They know, like they have a full fucking profile on everybody. Like it's crazy. Like what is that gonna be used for? Is ai just gonna like know everything about everyone? Like that's what they really want here.

"$awbuck" Mike: 18:49

So I, I don't remember exactly where this information.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 18:51

It was some numerology guy or something on tinfoil or someone's show, and I've used this because it's a crazy alignment. I may have mentioned it on here before too, but I'm going to add in the point that I think ties it all together, that my buddy added so this was not on the original place that I heard it 1968 was Bush graduating, george Bush Jr, whatever, whatever. Hw bush the younger one, 9-11 one. He graduated from skull and bones and yale in 1968. The world trade center construction started in 1968. The boeing plane model that ended up hitting the twin towers was rolled out to the public and made available in 1968. The new york jets won their one and only Super Bowl in 1968. And the numbers 911 was made the standard national emergency number. It used to be different, like around in different places, but in 1968, they made it the universal emergency number 911.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 19:49

So all those events then culminate on 9-11. George Bush, who was in his secret society, just graduated, happens to be the president of New York and the president when New York gets hit with the 9-11 in 2001. The same plane that hit it, created in the same year that he graduated. The World Trade Center construction started in the same year as that, the New York Jets only Super Bowl 9-1-1 all being put together. So talk about a psyop. 9-11 was a psyop. Made that far back people be like what? That far back like? Yeah, dude, it's probably hundreds of years back, maybe not to the exact date that they were going to do what, but like fulfilling the plan of these secret societies.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 20:30

100 and uh, the thing that my friend added then because he's a big movie guy, like when I was trying to convince my other friends that he said, oh, yeah and uh, 1968 was 2001, a space odyssey too. And I was like holy shit, like because kubrick's always associated with you know, like revealing stuff, or he's like very mentioned amongst predictive programming or subliminal messaging and stuff, and I, my other friends, like I don't see, see how that has the tie, and I'm like well, it says 2001. And then what's the theme of the movie? It's like again 9-11, 2001. And I'm like what is the theme of the movie? It's technology, aka ai, a supercomputer knowing and controlling literally everything, to the point where it's like a god government, like over man, all knowing, all, like powerful thing, right, and I've actually never even still seen the movie in its entirety. But that's the theme now, like the computer that takes over and like is the mastermind of everything.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 21:24

And tell me, 9-11 is not the start of that, with the patriot act and all the laws that was passed after 9-11, the spying that we just discussed of, like our phones, all these things, these service agreements and security things that you have to agree to, everything being filmed, everything being, you know, airport stops, like pull over, like being detained, searched all the time, like that type of shit, was not the norm before 9-11. 9-11 was used to set up the future, because what's that all going to lead to? Then the ai fucking controlling everything and knowing everything and having raps on everybody. And 9-11 was necessary to get to that point, because that's how they justified all these you know invasions of privacy, leading up to the point we are now, and we're all perfectly okay with it at all well, I'm not doing anything and just meanwhile, yeah, they fucking, they got us all okay.

"$awbuck" Mike: 22:13

So I want to talk about a bunch of things. Number one I remember what I was going to say and I'm going to say it right now, just so if I forget it again before we get there, you can remember it havana syndrome it was mentioned in the tweet that I read to you, but before we get into that. So 9-11 as a psyop, I 100% think there's a lot of fuckery with 9-11. In my mind, it's hard for me to think that they put the plans in motion to do what they did to it in 69. Not saying that it's not possible, I just don't. I don't know. Maybe I mean that's a lot of fucking coincidences. I don't know. I mean there's definitely. I definitely think that they knew about it. You know, I honestly don't know. I should probably be more well-researched on the whole.

"$awbuck" Mike: 23:05

You know the whole 9-11, because there's so many different conspiracies that go into it. Like I just found out from that documentary that came out last year that there was another plane that had a bomb on it that never left the airport. Did you ever hear about that? No, dude, there's a fucking documentary on hulu. It's called uh, the other plane, or some shit like that. It's. It's crazy. So there's so much to it that I still don't know. But yeah, I mean a whole bunch of fuckery. Do you really think that they put the plans in motion in 69 to bring it down in 01?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 23:35

Yeah, I would not put it past them too. To my understanding, these powers that be shadow government motherfuckers are part of a millennia-old belief system and secret cults serving in ancient fucking darkness or some shit and taking commands for thousands of years on what to do. So how the fuck should? I know it's way beyond crazy than even we believe. But yeah, it seems to line up with all those coincidences, if you ask me. And then my friend's little quote about 2001, a space odyssey, and me connecting that to how 9-11 was part of it.

"$awbuck" Mike: 24:13

It definitely kind of adds like a whole new layer to it. I will say, though, that our government, they are extremely adept at seeing an opportunity and fully taking advantage of that, motherfucker.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 24:30

They already have a reaction accounted for and then they present the solution that's already pre-planned. Mm-hmm.

"$awbuck" Mike: 24:36

And I definitely think there was a lot of that going on. Did you know, or do you know, what havana syndrome is? Because I'm telling you, I had no fucking idea. I had to look it up, not by name. So what is it? See, if I maybe heard of it. So havana syndrome, formerly known as anomalous health incidence, is a disputed medical condition reported primarily by us diplomatic intelligence and military officials stationed in overseas locations. Reported symptoms range in severity, from pain and ringing in the ears to cognitive dysfunction, and were first reported by US and Canadian embassy staff in Havana, cuba, hence the name. Through earlier I'm sorry, though earlier incidents may have occurred in Frankfurt, germany. Starting in 2016 through 2021, several hundred US intelligence and military officials and their families reported having symptoms in overseas locations including China, india, europe, hanoi, as well as Washington DC, which isn't a overseas location. So I don't know why that was included in it. But yeah, I mean there's more, but I think you get to jest. That's kind of a weird one. I never heard about that before.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 25:54

Can we ever trust anything told to us about health or sickness ever again after the past couple years?

"$awbuck" Mike: 26:00

No, no doubt, I feel like I barely can. No, absolutely You're right. The Havana syndrome, the way it was described there, to me and I'm untrained, full transparency. I'm untrained, but to me that sounds like bullshit. It sounds like hey man, I don't feel good, maybe my ear is ringing or maybe I have some body aches, and well, you know what you probably have havana syndrome.

"$awbuck" Mike: 26:26

You know it's like really, if you're living your life overseas, you're gonna have all the same stressors you would have at home living your life right. Most days go by. You're either in pain, you're aggravated. You know there's maybe there's ringing in your ear, maybe you bend down, you get lightheaded. Those things happen.

"$awbuck" Mike: 26:42

I don't have fucking Plano Illinois syndrome. You know what I mean. Like come on, I don't know. So what do you think is going on then? I think people are full of shit and I think doctors are psychopaths largely.

"$awbuck" Mike: 26:53

No, I'm not a medical denier, you know, doctors, the dichotomy is a weird one because doctors nearly killed my son. Then a competent doctor saved my son. So I'm by no means anti-medicine, I'm anti-bad medicine and unfortunately what I see most of the time now is bad medicine. So that's kind of why I take such a negative spin when I talk about physicians usually, basically, I just think in part, like if you give them, if you give doctors an opportunity to say that you have something, no doctor is going to say you know what? You have a little ringing in your ear, you're a little lightheaded, you have some general body pain, you know what? It's probably just nothing.

"$awbuck" Mike: 27:40

No doctor is going to say that Doctors are going to be like, oh well, you probably, but you could have, let's run these tests, let's do this, let's do that, or you know, it could be this, it could really, it could be, it could be, but it's probably not. I think most of it's probably just people are full of shit and doctors like to fucking play. God you know. I'm sure there's legitimate cases. Of course I'm not saying that, I just think it's. It's like what's that one? Okay, it's like fibromyalgia.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 28:11

You've heard of that I'm not even familiar with what it's supposed to be it's disputed in the medical community.

"$awbuck" Mike: 28:16

50 of the doctors don't think it's real. It's more common for women to have it, although men have reportedly had it too. There's no way you can prove it. There's no test that you can do to say you have it. There's no blood work you can get done to say that you have it either. Okay, it's general pain, it's pain, that's it. You're about it where, all over, oh, you have fibromyalgia. That's, that's the scent, that's what it is, that's what it is. So that's another case where it's just like wow, I'm not denying that they're in pain, but, dude, you reach 40, every day, your fucking body is going to ache. You're an athlete, you know.

"$awbuck" Mike: 28:55

Oh dude, I'm hurting right now, that's what I'm saying dude, you don't have fucking fibromyalgia, you have tom fucking goes way too hard in the gym a phobia.

"$awbuck" Mike: 29:04

You know what I mean. That's what you have. You know you don't have some illness. Yeah, I don't know and I'm not. Like I said, I'm not when I talk to a lot of people and I know I don't have to preface it with you or even probably the audience, but I feel like I have to because I'm conditioned that way. You know, like people automatically think oh, this fucking, this guy's crazy, he's anti-medicine. It's like no, I'm not. Just because I don't believe in certain things, just because I'm anti that and anti bad doctors, doesn't mean I'm anti-medicine.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 29:33

Nobody can be one thing and another. Nobody can have conflicting or varied beliefs. If you're one thing, you're automatically labeled into or shoved into a box. In the ever-devisive world that we're in, it's funny.

"$awbuck" Mike: 29:47

Mm-hmm. I mentioned that I listened to a podcast with General Robert Spalding. Some of the notes I took. I wanted to get your thoughts on them.

"$awbuck" Mike: 29:57

So in China, tiktok is not even allowed. I thought that was interesting. Instead they have this thing. It's called Douyin and it's essentially it's a Chinese language equivalent to TikTok and each kid is allowed 40 minutes per day on it. But what is on it is they highlight scientific achievements, mathematics, sports, that's it. You're not going to find no bullshit on this Doian. When they polled TikTok users and then the Doian users, the young kids from America and China, the number one thing that young kids want to be in America is an influencer. He explained how it's very dangerous, because what's happening now is TikTok is influencing the behavior and the behavior patterns of the youth and the people that use the app and at the same time, they're reducing national productivity and they're molding the future, future generations. They're corroding civilization. They're corroding our rights by infecting the youth. This is the long game, man. We've been playing fucking checkers and they've been playing chess since 1969, when we were fucking building the, the trade centers, you know shit since 1766 and longer, no doubt.

"$awbuck" Mike: 31:21

I mean about the future. I don't have much hope for it and I don't like saying that, but it's just like I don't know, man. I just to where it was when I was young, to where it is now.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 31:34

It's almost unrecognizable, man, pretty hard to plant in a head.

"$awbuck" Mike: 31:38

Expect normalcy shit does happen, but it is never when we expect it, which kind of leads me into a question. So when I was young, when I was younger, kind of exploring these ideas, I was a huge nostradamus fan. Oh yeah, I am not anymore, obviously, but I I would always wonder if he knew all these like why couldn't we stop these things? And and then people would always say things like well, you know it's encoded, it's not meant to find out.

"$awbuck" Mike: 32:07

It's like I just think that it's really shitty, that after it happens, it's like really, can you just one time, just one time show me.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 32:16

Somebody decipher it for the future.

"$awbuck" Mike: 32:19

Yeah, I mean I don't know. Am I wrong there for the future? Yeah, I mean I don't know.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 32:22

Am I wrong there? That's a fair critique that we could just apply anything after the fact, any obscure shit?

"$awbuck" Mike: 32:30

What are your feelings on Ostradamus?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 32:32

Who knows, man? I do feel like there are some psychic phenomenons. Maybe he had a device or he had an ability. He used a bowl of water. Who knows, bro? Like there are psychic people, like I don't know if it's because they're tapped into the spirit world, something is telling them they can see the timeline, maybe like past, present and future all exist at the same time and like you can just sometimes get a glimpse.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 32:57

But I've seen it firsthand, dated a girl who was undeniably psychic. Like I've had other weird things happen. Like I do feel like people can, can, tap into stuff. Like people have premonitions, like gut feelings, just like story, or like, uh, you know prophetic dreams and shit. So who? Who really knows? Like it might say more about, like, what is time and experience and stuff like that it's not out of the realm of possibility, but yeah, it is always after the fact, nobody's took in all of his other writings and laid out like hey, here's what they're going to do next. I'm sure there are people who've tried or or put their spin on it, but yeah, I don't think that, uh, we've been able to use his things as a playbook, unless we're looking backwards.

"$awbuck" Mike: 33:37

Yeah and to your point, I believe in, like said, dreams and all kinds of weird shit. I definitely, you know I don't have the answer. I know that there's definitely crazy things that happen, but with Nostradamus it's just like him particularly. It's like if you look at the quote, unquote predictions that he's made successfully and you take all the predictions that he's made, he's less than 1% accurate. Now some could say, well, you know, we just haven't figured what those ones, those other quatrains, a quatrain is what he called. You know, each prediction was a quatrain because it was written in four lines.

"$awbuck" Mike: 34:16

So some people could say, maybe we just haven't figured out what I don't know. And it broke my heart because I was a huge michelle nastradamus fan. You know, one thing that I think is kind of interesting is leonardo da vinci painted the mona lisa. But have you ever seen the theory that the mona lisa is actually leonardo da vinci as a woman? Because the dimensions, like when they mathematically did his face and laid it over it was like an identical match to her Ever heard of that.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 34:46

No, I don't think I have. What are your?

"$awbuck" Mike: 34:49

initial thoughts on that. I just think he was doing it to like fuck with people more or less you know, because he did encode a lot of crazy shit in his work. Have you seen some of like the old Renaissance paintings that have like UFOs in them and shit?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 35:04

Oh yeah.

"$awbuck" Mike: 35:05

Dude, that's the argument that I use when I'm having a conversation about UFOs with people, when people want to say, well, you know, it wasn't even a thing until Kenneth Arnold saw them in 1943, and it's just like, or it's a recent, I think it's the government, it's the government. Listen, I definitely think the government has some crazy technology, definitely has things in the sky that we don't know about. I'm not denying that. But when people just write it all off to the government, it's like, dude, there was no government in the 1700s, 1600s flying things, things in the sky, but yet here they are being depicted you know what I mean.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 35:46

I have a theory too. People have said that all those renaissance creators and stuff are basically named after like angels like michelangelo would be like angel michael, and they're saying like, oh, the angels might have built something else, or I don't know what leonardo da vinci's name means. I've looked it up upon time but leo definitely has to do with life. That is a nod to the gales, the gals, the gallic wars, the druids, the, the knowledge that was stolen and, you know, replaced by the catholic church and whatever else, and masonry, with his name being a reference to galilee, where jesus was born, and I don't know. I think it's just a funny cover-up that they threw in and be like actually this is where our knowledge came from, huh what's sad is uh, we'll probably never know like the answer to most of this shit.

"$awbuck" Mike: 36:33

I know we don't have the looking glass.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 36:38

If we did know, mike, we would be out of show. If everybody knew, or if we knew any of the answers, that's the fun of it is questioning, questioning, questioning yeah, that is the fun.

"$awbuck" Mike: 36:46

however, I just would like to know is that, when my time here was done, that I would get the answer to all of my questions? If I knew that, yeah, that'd be cool if that laid like, if I knew that that was what happened after I expired, knew that I was about to get all these answers to all these questions I've had my whole life.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 37:10

Right dude, I like that I don't have any reason to believe. It shouldn't be that. I, you know, have dabbled with all sorts of spiritualities. You know, have dabbled with all sorts of spiritualities and when I was kind of like, oh shit, I think there's something to jesus and whatever recently, as you or anyone who's heard us talk about this type of stuff, but I still definitely don't fall in line at all with any religion or like even like the bible itself is a book written by man. Yeah, they say it's whatever the word of god inspired by man.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 37:40

But but at the same time, dude, all these different kings, all these different secret societies, all these different people have edited it, taken things out, added things in, changed things up. I know how evil a lot of these religious institutions and shit are, so I feel weird even to try and say that I am a Christian or this or that, and like the Druidry, and I just think that religion is a massive psyop, everything like that resonates with me, for sure. But all this other stuff like that. But I like to believe. Yeah, I will get some sort of closure or answers or whatever when the time has come, is religion the first psyop.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 38:21

Fuck man, probably, and I believe that at a time it probably wasn't and it was closer to what it should be. If there is a purpose, is, I guess, as far as what I'm saying is a form of spirituality, that's I don't know sustainable and god-based, sustainability based and abundance based, and not, uh, condemnation and governing and rules and death worship and fucking fear and all that like that's. That's the clear psyop and I believe it was flipped on its head at some point.

"$awbuck" Mike: 38:54

But I would say, yeah, religion has always been used as a psyop, bringing this session full circle, kind of. I used to have a theory, not necessarily a theory. I used to have an idea, an idea that I thought would be really cool that would happen when we died. I thought this would be really cool if. If this is what happened, wouldn't it be cool if, when we did expire from this earth, wouldn't it be cool if you got to pick, like a video game or a movie or something like that, like what?

"$awbuck" Mike: 39:33

you want your Skyrim. I want to when I go? I want to go into the Skyrim world. So boom, you get transported into the video game. But it's not a video game, though. It's the real thing. It's just you're in skyrim the game, but it's real. It's like real, like not a cartoon, it's real.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 39:50

Wouldn't that be cool if it's just whatever your mind and spirit wants. A lot of people believe that type of uh afterlife where would you?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 39:57

pick. I don't know man. I used to kind of like the idea of like some valhalla shit I'm not gonna lie, or but I feel like Valhalla is also like the original jihad psyop. Like don't you think that the Islamist extremist guys that are trying to get somebody to go die for them, or like Japanese kamikaze soldiers, like that they're, you know, being swayed by the leadership, like, hey, you gotta go die for this. Like, if you do, you'll be like you know, into know in a paradise and you'll have all this, you'll have all these virgins, you'll be honored, you'll have like a fucking million chariots in the afterlife. If you go like kill yourself for this, the Vikings was the same ship For some reason, we think that's cool and badass. Like, oh, you go die sick to just fight reborn, fight, feast, reborn. But I don't know man, I probably would want to be in some Shire type of shit. Send me to some badass forest-y realm. I do want to get some fighting on. So I don't know.

"$awbuck" Mike: 40:57

The Jarl of.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 40:58

Windhelm.

"$awbuck" Mike: 40:59

I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow in the knee.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 41:05

Exactly. Tell me, fucking Viking chieftains, pushing that on them is any different than a kamikaze or a jihadist.

"$awbuck" Mike: 41:12

I've never thought Religious extremist yeah, they're religious extremists.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 41:15

They were terrorists, the berserkers and shit.

"$awbuck" Mike: 41:18

The Odinist was basically a religious extremist I've never thought about it, but the way that, yeah, the way that you laid it out, it absolutely. There's no difference between what they did there than what the japanese did with the kamikazes or the muslims do with the 900 virgins or whatever you know. There's no different.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 41:40

Yeah, that's, I never thought about that, but that's interesting, that's crazy you could put it on any spin, the crusaders and shit, like they were like, all right, well, whatever, if I die in battle, I'll be with jesus, I'll be with whatever. The celtic warriors, and like the gauls and the irish and shit, believed in another world, like they basically believed that it wasn't like a heaven. It was just like you live in another version of the world once you die and when people are born into the world that we're in, that they were coming from the other world. And so they even fought naked and like they made armor, like they actually invented chain mail.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 42:12

But a lot of times they would just fight shirtless for sure, or even just straight up naked, because they were like, oh I don't care, dude, if I'm meant to die, then I'm meant to die. Like, if the gods are on my side, then I'll win because I'm a badass, and if I die, then I'll just go to the other world. That's what they wanted, it was my time. So they just fought completely fearlessly. So the ancient Celtic version of a religious fanatic, terrorist, extremist would have been a naked, charging guy, painted or tattooed, who just didn't give a shit if he went to the other world or not. He just wanted to go out brawling for the fun of it.

"$awbuck" Mike: 42:47

So if you had to pick a video game that your body, your soul, everything about you when you go, would be transported into this video game, what game would you pick?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 43:00

Shit. I better pick a good one, because who knows if they're going to try and upload our consciousness? Um, I would say I skyrim does sound really fucking fun, like just being able to attack and fight these fucking crazy creatures. And what? What race were you in skyrim?

"$awbuck" Mike: 43:17

well, I had a couple different characters, but the one that I would find myself going to most, a Khajiit, maybe Nice, I definitely clacked the most on an orc.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 43:29

I definitely clacked the most on an orc Just brutal fucking melee. But I had an Argonian too who was like thiefy and I love Argonians.

"$awbuck" Mike: 43:37

Yeah, I like the Argonians too. The Argonian ale, the skooma, did you play ES elder scrolls online? Okay, so I'm. I was so excited I got it and I put I was like this is fucking different this is not I don't, I don't like it, I didn't like it it's the only type of game like that I ever played.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 44:01

But yeah, totally different experience. Mmorpg like yeah, dude, I had a guild that would play with my friends, like it. I went hard on that shit for years, like I took some time off, but for years I played mad eso and I I liked it. It was fun definitely some of the funner gaming experiences I had but wasted a lot of time on it. Fucking game had poor performance too, like.

"$awbuck" Mike: 44:21

But yeah, it was a very immersive game for sure yeah, games are so fun, dude, I throw my headphones on, plug that bitch into the ps5 controller and I just go. It's just fun. You could hear like every little like from him walking, like, from the characters walking on like like a wooden bridge to like the concrete to the brick. You could hear like the different fucking tones and it's incredible man Having the privilege to just watch video games from 1989 to where they are now it's just like, wow, Like it's crazy, you got to go with it Sure did dude.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 44:59

Well, shit, you're making me kind of want to game tonight. There you go.

"$awbuck" Mike: 45:01

I'm probably going to. Well, I don't know, maybe if I get some fucking food in me, I might play some Elder Scrolls. You got anything Elder Scrolls? No, fucking Bowler's Gate 3.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 45:12

Yeah, you should look into Bannerlord dude Probably the best game of all time and any of the people out there who like the art of war, you know that is the fucking game. Banner hard banner, lord banner, mountain blade. What is mountain blade? So that's the series. You like on a horseback, like you mount a horse and you can fucking fuck some people up. It's like a like a civilization type of game, but also, like I said, you get to battle. It's like imagine call of duty, fucking with axes and swords and spears, but instead of just everyone being 1v1, like it's, you know, just a computer world, like a immersive world, and you're fighting other armies and you're controlling your army on the field while you're fighting. It's sick, wow that sounds crazy.

"$awbuck" Mike: 45:57

Do they have, uh, any questionable kind of characters like we mean? You know, like people you might have to stay away from. It's a whole. It's a whole like Do they have any questionable kind of characters? Like, what do you mean?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 46:07

You know, like people you might have to stay away from. It's a whole like pedophiles. It's a whole running empire or civilization. There's like a bunch of different factions. There's like a Viking culture, there's two like empire, like Roman and Byzantine empire cultures. There's like an english knight empire thing, there's a celtic one, there's a arab one, there's a mongolian like horse based one. That's fucking sick and you can like take territories all around the world and like conquer castles and like be at war with all these different nations and start wars with them and so, yeah, you get fucked up and and you get your whole army wiped out and you get arrested. It's an intense game, bro.

"$awbuck" Mike: 46:46

Did you ever play Risk the board game?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 46:49

Never Wow.

"$awbuck" Mike: 46:51

Do you know what it is?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 46:51

That's one of the few. I don't really know the premise of it.

"$awbuck" Mike: 46:54

It's like World War II. You have the Axis and the Allies. There's actually a better game that's called axis and allies and it's uh, it's risk is a ripoff of that game, but some of those games can go for weeks like that's wild it's yeah, because it's literally like world domination kind of shit dude. But yeah, I was wondering, I was wondering if there's any people you had to stay away from, like pedophiles. Guitar solo I'm out.