Traveling in Wonder

In this episode of Wild Development Studio, we chat with author and photographer Autumn Carolyn about her new book, Traveling in Wonder: A Travel Photographer's Tales of Wanderlust. Autumn shares her experiences of traveling to 30 countries before turning 30, the transformative power of living abroad, and practical travel tips for women. Tune in to hear her inspiring stories and gain insights on capturing stunning travel photography.

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She went with me to Iceland, and it was her first time, and it was, 
I feel like, not only is this moody and haunting that I, like, 
feel like it is, but to me, it reminds me of, my mom got to see this. 
Like, my mom literally got to see what black sand is. 
Welcome to Wild Development Studio. 
Welcome to Wild Developments, I'm your guide Lauren. 
In a touching exploration of a life enriched by wanderlust, young author Autumn Carolyn. 
Ireland, invites readers to journey with her on her upcoming book release, Traveling in. 
A Travel Photographer's Tales of Wanderlust. 
This compelling narrative details Autumn, a former flight attendant, reflecting on her extensive travels to 30countries over the course of 30years. 
From her early experiences as a student abroad to her roles as a flight attendant and travel agent, 
she brings the reader on a journey of personal growth, self -discovery, and the courage it takes to embrace the unknown. 
Traveling in Wonder serves not only as a fascinating story of travels, but also as a sincere love letter to oneself. 
Through vivid storytelling, Autumn encourages readers to find courage in both the act of exploration and in the acceptance of life's everyday challenges. 
Autumn Carolyn received her bachelor's degree in English with an emphasis in creative writing from Illinois State University and Canterbury Christ Church University. 
She is a published author with Spoon River Poetry Review and has worked as an on -air DJ for two radio stations. 
Autumn produced a creative writing segment aired on WGLT and NPR radio station, 
which introduced writers from all over the Midwest and allowed them to share their work on air. 
Beyond her literary achievements, Autumn is an award -winning travel photographer owner of autumn carolyn photography her works can be found in multiple galleries including the prestigious northrop king building one of the largest art complexes in the united states autumn thank you so much for being here today thank you it's been a pleasure and you just recently wrote a book traveling in wonder why did you choose the goal of traveling to 30countries before 30years? 
Sure. 30countries in 30years started when I was a flight attendant, 
but it was actually a different goal prior to that. 
So I had an idea to go to 13countries in 13weeks when I studied abroad in Canterbury, 
England. 
And every weekend, I would take off to a new country, sleep in the airport on Thursday nights, 
fly out Friday morning, and then stay in that new country until Monday evening and then come back right in time for my classes on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 
That sounds really busy. 
But yeah. 
So how did it evolve into something bigger? 
Are you like, ah, I did 13.
I can keep it going. 
Sure. 
So I kind of had this idea when I was being a flight attendant flight attendant because I was traveling to different places. 
And my main goal was that by the time I turned 30,I wanted to hit all seven continents. 
And I'll give you a hint. 
I did not hit one. 
You can take a wild guess on which one that is. 
And I'm going to guess it's the coldest. 
Yes, you are right. 
And so when I had this idea, when I was a flight attendant, 
I was like you know I could do I want to see if I can try and like push myself more and I think I want to try and do 30and 30because it seems like I could achieve that and it seems something that I could be able to like work towards so that's kind of how it got started so when you set out with this goal was the goal at the end always to write a book about the experience or did you decide that later on? 
So me having the idea to write a book, it started when I was, 
we were in the pandemic and I had already reached, like, I think I had reached 28or 27countries at that point. 
And I was taking all of my travel journals and typing them into a Word document because I had so much time on my hands. 
And I was thinking, you know, in case there's like a fire or something, 
I think I want to write these down into like electronic thing, into electronic document, 
I mean. 
And when I was processing and taking those from the physical journals and putting them into the Word document, 
I kind of had this idea of, you know, I don't know if people would be interested in reading about this, 
but I think I want to try and make this into a book because it has a different concept and then that's just what sparked everything was my actual travel journals do you recommend that everybody do travel journals i know for me like it really helps you to get back to that moment it's almost like a little time machine for yourself yes right um i definitely do i think that it can be really hard to keep track of in the moment because a lot of times when you're traveling from place to place you could get so tired and you're out of it and you just want to sleep or you just want to take in the moment when you're on a train or on a plane but I have felt strongly that those times are the perfect times to journal when you're sitting somewhere stationary and you're waiting for something or you're on a plane or on a train and you're on a mode of transportation and you're able to to write down what happened during that day even if it's something small i still think that it's a really good idea so that way you're able to keep up with it and then you can look back on it years later and remember that one place that you ate something and it was just amazing well i'm glad you turned your journals into a book and also i thought it was very unique at the start of each chapter new country you have like what the weather was like and how much things cost and the things that you packed that really helps me because if i want to go there like okay this is what autumn did and it worked for her maybe you know i need to change something up what made you decide to make that part of the the book? 
Thank you. I had this idea to put it together at the front of the book because in my travel journals, 
I started doing that. 
I started writing down the people that I met and where I went to eat and the mode of transportation. 
And I don't know if it was just something that I wanted to keep for myself as knowing like, 
oh, okay, well, this is what the the temperature was today, and this is what it's going to be tomorrow. 
But I think that keeping that little insert at the front of each country has really helped me for booking future countries too, 
because now I look back on it and it's like, okay, what are my list of goals that I want to go and see? 
What are the things that I want to do? 
How much do I want to spend on this? So yeah. 
Yeah. Thank you so much. 
It sounds like you're really intentional and that way you're able to kind of hit the things that you want to hit when you're, 
you're in your new, new countries. 
So how did living abroad change your perspective? 
Yes. Living abroad changed my, it changed everything for me. 
It was something that I was able to take up a completely different culture and experience it for the first time, 
but not in a way of, oh, I'm going to be here just for three days and I have to soak it all in. 
But actually in the idea of I'm walking to school and I'm going to walk back home and it's going to be like this for, 
you know, however many months that I'm here. 
And, you know, you go grocery shopping at the same place, but it's all different from the U .S. 
And I think it just opened and broadened my my you know my brain because there are things like I know this is so silly but there are things like people in the U .K. 
Roll their own cigarettes you know and they like actually roll it out and I watched my roommates doing it versus here in the U .S. 
You know people buy cigarettes and that was just like a totally different thing and there's a washing machine that's in my kitchen that's, 
you know, not there and they don't have dryers. 
You hang everything up on lines outside. 
And it just, it was really interesting to go through. 
How do you begin to prepare for something like that? 
Or do you feel like in many ways you were unprepared and you're just kind of a student and learning in the moment? 
I, so my prep for studying abroad and doing this was I put all of my clothes in one carry -on and then I put my carry -on in a bigger luggage. 
So what I could do is when I was going to the different places, 
I could take the souvenirs or the little things that I had, you know, 
train tickets and things I wanted to keep. 
And I put them in the bigger luggage that was empty. 
And then I took my carry -on would be everywhere so this was a way for me to be able to be on the go and have only a set of clothes that I would use every single trip and then be able to bring stuff back okay so how do you pare down because I am the type of person when I pack all of a sudden I suddenly need 50pairs of underwear to go somewhere for the weekend I'm I'm like. 
Why do that? 
So how do you get in the mindset of like, okay, I know that this is the only things that I'm going to need? 
Yes. I will have to say bringing dishes or laundry detergent has been my savior with this because I've washed clothes in the middle of a sink in airports before for. 
I watched them, you know, there's places in hostels and being able to reuse or re -wear the clothing has been really helpful. 
But I think the main thing in my head that I have to keep on telling myself is I can't be traveling if I have so much stuff and I have to be able to knock it down which is so funny now because as I get older I want to bring more things than when I did when I was younger so I I find myself struggling now that when I go on a trip I will have bags of stuff and I'll look at myself and be like how did you do this when you were like 10years you know 10years ago and you could be able to do this with like just a carry -on so I still battle that yeah it's. 
It's hard because I'm like, you know, I don't know if I'm going to need this random game. 
Yeah, I always bring like a bag of games. 
My family just relies on me to bring the entertainment, I guess. 
Yes, yes. 
Gosh, what is your one? 
Because you were a flight attendant, too. 
So do you have like the one item that is like your go to you have to have like a security blanket type thing for when you travel? 
Yes, I would want to say my phone. 
I would want to say my travel journal. 
But I'm going to be totally weird about this. 
I have a plain outfit that I wear on every trip. 
And it's the same outfit. 
And it is tried and true because it makes me comfortable on like long flights. 
Lights and it's just a pair of leggings. 
And then I have a long t -shirt that's cotton and I have a vest that is fleece and the vest has all different pockets. 
So I can put my passport, I can put my wallet and my phone and headphones. 
And I don't have to worry about digging in my bag for things when I'm going through security or going through to get a coffee when you're in the airport. 
I tell you what though that airplane outfit has been such a clutch on all these places and I really I think I I really that's I would guess that would be my security blanket because I feel like I'm confident in it that's a good tip I'm gonna have to try that because we're traveling to San Antonio in a few weeks I'm that's the worst when you're like scrambling through your bag to find something in the crowded airport right right yeah and you're a photographer too you got beautiful photographs and I really appreciate that in the book the pictures are color because a lot of times they're black and white and it's like oh you don't get the full scope of everything but as a photographer and you're traveling like how like what kind of camera do you use how do you you know pack extra batteries and all that kind of stuff I use a Sony A6400. 
I have, I think, four batteries that I use, and then I have a rechargeable battery pack. 
And then I bring one or two lenses with me. 
But in my book, a lot of the gear that I used wasn't actually Sony. 
It was a Nikon D5100 with a 18-270Tamron lens. 
And that was my tried and true. 
I could show up anywhere. 
I just had one lens with me. 
I had two battery packs for it and then the rechargeable battery pack. 
And that's all I took. 
And it worked out really well. 
That's good to know. 
Because I'm always like I could bring my 600millimeter lens and yes yeah like what if I miss that one shot but yeah yeah um it's good to know you can still take really good shots thank you what do you use a tripod when you're out there do you have any tips for for somebody that's out there traveling and wanting to take photos yes so I don't use a tripod I've often and debated between if I should bring one on my future trips or if I should just leave it but every time that I'm traveling I'm I find myself thankful that I didn't bring one because I feel like if I were to have it it would be extra baggage on me and because my type of travel is going from place to place to place and seeing you know all I can within a short amount of time I think just being on the go. 
Being able to snap. 
But that also means that it's a trade -off because there are some photos and a lot of photos that are blurry because they're not set up with a tripod. 
They're not set up in a professional way. 
It's just me with the fleeing hands. 
I also think, though, that you can get really creative. 
I've used things like putting my camera on the ground and positioning it up. 
I've used things like setting it on top of cars and using the auto release so that way it can take the clear picture, 
especially with astrophotography. 
That's something that I have been like trying to dabble more into do you have um like maybe a set setting that you use because I mean if you're traveling you're in the cities you could be you know in the woods there could be fast things there could be slow things I mean what do you have something where you're like I know I want my ISO at this and my shutter speed at this and I am good to go in most environments. 
Sure. 
So I'll let you in on a secret. 
Okay. 
A lot of times when I took my photos, when I was just starting off, 
I used auto all the time. 
It was something that I didn't have to worry. 
I just use auto. 
I was traveling everywhere and it just was something that was easy and I didn't have to think twice about it. 
Now being more experienced when it comes to my camera, I shoot in RAW and I have my manual settings that I do. 
So I always try and figure out what the forecast is going to be. 
And I kind of use the rule of if it's like a really sunny day, 
making sure that um my iso is set to 100or 200and just making sure that everything is really clear and not too brash with the images i feel like there's such a stigma around auto i know right yeah it's like if you have an eye for it you have an eye for it i started off in auto too i don't think yeah every once in a while if it's like a really stressful situation i'm like i'm I'm going to throw that in the auto. 
I don't want to miss a shot. 
Exactly. I'd rather get the shot than be like, Oh, I know. 
Right. You know, off the top of my head, I needed these settings. 
So yeah. Yeah. 
It definitely helps if you want to be more, um, artistic further down the line, 
you know, auto exposure bracketing and all that stuff. 
But yeah, I think we need to get rid of that stigma. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
That is so true because I, I still, I do use auto still. 
And I think I use it more as, I think I try and push myself to be manual because in my head, 
I'm like, everyone else is manual. 
You have to be manual, Autumn. 
You've got to be able to figure this out on a quick whim when you're traveling. 
But then the other half of me is like, you did auto for all those years and your pictures were good. 
It's okay that you're in auto. 
So it's that battle, I think, for me, at least. 
Yeah i feel the same so out of all the photos that you've you've taken like i was on your website i was looking at all the sea turtles and the lizards and the green eye tree frogs and what would you say is your favorite this one that's very moody i like it thank you it's the is that the cover too it's different but backwards yeah yeah it is the one that's on the cover yeah i love it where is that one taken at uh it is taken in iceland and it's taken in the south beach it's vic the black sand beach um in south iceland and i took the trip with my mom and it was something that my mom has been diagnosed with um macular degeneration and she. 
She has been fighting with time, basically, because the doctors have said that she's already categorized as blind, 
but that it's going to keep on going. 
And I had a really hard time with this because I don't have the best eyes, 
and I've been really struggling with that as well. 
And I talk about this in my book because I talk about what it's like to be afraid of of that, 
but also what it's like to have someone who you love go through something that is really hard. 
And she does not travel out of the country. 
She is very much afraid of going to different places. 
And I tried to convince her to go to Iceland because I kept on saying, 
like, just go somewhere that you've not been before, mom. 
Like, I think we should go. 
And so she went with with me to Iceland and it was her first time and it was I feel like not only is this moody and haunting that I like feel like it is but to me it reminds me of my mom got to see this like my mom literally got to see what black sand is and that just means like yeah that that knocks everything out water. 
Beautiful. And that would be so scary. 
And I'm, you know, losing your sight and going somewhere new. 
So obviously when you're her daughter, so of course she trusts you, but like to go to a whole new country, 
you know, Iceland sounds so far away. 
Yeah. Yeah. She's, she struggled. 
She was like, I don't know what they say here. 
I don't know what the food is like. 
And but but we got through it and so now she tells all of her friends that she got to see a volcano and got to be on the blue lagoon and now she's very happy about it but in the moment it was a little bit of a struggle but it does sound like beautiful memories thank you out of the photos that you have which would you say is your best seller and why do you think that resonates with people um i would have to say the one that is my best seller this one is very like up there but it's actually a photo of hobbiton in uh new zealand on the set of lord of the rings i think that one has sold consistently and i think because it has that double meaning of of what Lord of the Rings means to people. 
And there will be people that will show up with tattoos, excuse me, 
tattoos in my art fair booth. 
And it'll be the same picture that I have. 
And, you know, we'll take the picture of their tattoo with my photo. 
And it's really fun. 
But I definitely think that that's probably my top seller for other people. 
Yeah, I find that interesting always, because as a photographer, you know, obviously, 
we know the story behind the photo and it can mean a lot more to us. 
And sometimes I'm like, why isn't this one photo selling? 
Cause I love it so much. 
And why don't other people connect to it the same way that I do? 
But, um, and then I wonder like, why is this thing that, you know, 
I took in a split second and you haven't thought about since, why is that one selling so much? 
Yes. I find that very interesting. 
Do you have tips for women who travel alone? 
Yes, I would recommend. 
The first thing I want to say is don't be afraid to go someplace. 
Don't be too scared to travel. 
Because I think that often held me back a lot. 
And it continues to hold me back a lot. 
But with that, I would also say to just be smart about the way that you travel. 
And it's sad that I have to, you know, say it like that. 
But I would recommend, you know, traveling when it's light out, when there's daylight, 
making sure that your transfers are during the day and not at night, 
because I've learned. 
Um and making sure that when you're going places you know you're confident of where you are and there's this one insert that i have in the book that's talking about my trip to hungary and i'm in this this place and i don't know where i'm going and i'm trying to get to my hostel and there's this group of men that are following me and they split into two and then the first half half of the group of men start going in front of me and the first front start to slow down. 
But the back start to speed up and I'm caught right in the middle. 
And I was like praying like. 
God, please get me out of this situation. 
There was this one lone butcher shop with this woman that had a meat cleaver and she, 
I ran in there. 
I shut the door. 
It was raining. 
I was a mess. 
I was like, please, I'm scared. 
There's this group of men following me. 
She doesn't speak English. 
She keeps motioning to the meat like which one do you want and I'm like I'm a vegetarian I don't eat meat like I'm sorry that's not what I'm here for but eventually she was able to get me to the place that I needed to go and I did not encounter those men again but I think making sure that you know where you're going when you're traveling and if not finding people that have positions of of they're at work to ask them where to go. 
So people that are working at the train station, people that are, you know, 
if there's a nearby hotel, walking up to the hotel and asking people that are behind the front desk, 
hey, I'm lost and I don't know where I'm going. 
I think those are probably the most helpful tips that I've encountered. 
That's an intense story. 
And I'm I'm glad you found a woman with a meat cleaver when you did. 
Yeah, thank you. 
Wow. 
I traveled by myself for the first time. 
Well, I've done it for work, but that was different because, you know, 
I was in Florida or whatever, but I went out to the mountains in Cades Cove and I took my dog with me. 
So that was how, because I was spending multiple days, I knew I was going to be alone. 
It was like a solo retreat thing. 
And I'm like, well, I'm going to at least bring my Husky with me. 
Oh, wow. 
You know, they're not really notorious for being protective. 
But she looks scary. 
Yeah, exactly. Uh -huh. 
Uh -huh. So that's, that's good advice to make sure you know where you're going and that there are workers and they will help you out. 
Have you ever used like Google translate or anything like that? 
Or yes. When I first started traveling, I didn't have any wifi. 
I didn't have an international plan at all. 
So I honestly just had to use a map and had to figure out the language myself or you know try and figure out someone who knew English but recently my husband and I have been traveling more to Asia and I have an international plan now when I travel and that has been such a clutch being able to have the. 
Google Translate especially for menus because I don't eat meat I can take a picture of it and it I can translate what's on the menu to English on my phone, 
and then I can be able to read through it and see what I can eat and what I can't. 
It is such an amazing tool. 
I got hot chocolate mailed in from Italy because I wanted it. 
They do different than we do. 
You probably know you've traveled. 
And I didn't realize that the instructions were going to be in Italian. 
Oh, yeah. 
How am I going to prepare this thing? 
So I use the Google Translate and it just instantly showed me. 
I'm like, that's incredible. 
Yes, yes, definitely. 
The world is getting smaller. 
I know, I know. 
So all of this, the travel in the book was before 2020.
And you, I'm sure, have traveled since. 
How has the pandemic changed the travel landscape? 
Yes, I would say the pandemic has. 
I don't want to have a negative aspect on it, because one could say that people are more standoffish or people are less likely to be friendly like I've experienced in the pandemic or before prior to it. 
But honestly, I just, I really do think technology has been awesome. 
I think the idea of social media with reels and TikToks now, I can search on there that I want to go to Tokyo and it can show me the top reels and those reels will have countless ideas of what to do. 
And it can show me where I want to go or if there's a bucket list item that I think might be really helpful. 
And I feel like that has been such a game changer for me because I've learned so much from just scrolling on TikTok or, 
you know, because prior to that, I would be, OK, I'm going to do TripAdvisor. 
I'm going to do Viator. 
I'm going to go on and see what the top 10things to do in the city are. 
But I think with the abundance of social media now I'm able to look at it and take a step back and say these are might be some niche things that not a lot of people know and I think I want to try some of them that's a really good tip and you're right like I do go to social media more than you know maybe google or something like that to get some ideas that's a great tip thank you do you have oh what I was like I was gonna say something about the pandemic when I was finally able to travel again uh we booked a flight and we went to St. 
Croix and that's a flight I don't know that I would have ever done I hate flying maybe I should be talking to you about how to get over like turbulence and stuff like that but we we booked a flight and we went to St. 
Croix and it was just like oh I'm finally free and I get to see the world and it like it made me want to to explore more because i couldn't before yes definitely so have you sorry go ahead oh no i was just gonna say the safest part and the most sturdy part on a plane is to get a seat right by the wing really yes so if you have motion sickness or if you're afraid of turbulence i always like to get not the exit row but the one behind it or two rows behind it because you're going to have a sturdy flight compared to the other portions of the plane and statistically it's the safest that is good to know that explains why we were coming from Seattle to Cincinnati last year and I was in the very last seat and the turbulence over the mountains was horrible yeah I mean the woman next to me was crying and praying and you know it was it was bad um so yeah I'm not a fan of flying but it does get you places a lot quicker yeah hey did you ever experience any bad yeah yeah definitely I've experienced turbulence um a few times nothing where I had to go to the hospital but I do know of a lot of flight attendants that have experienced that to me it's very different because i don't know i kind of feel i i have a lot of like faith in the people who built the plane because i have friends that are engineers that work on planes like i have people that like i i talked to a ton of maintenance people and i like going through the training that we have to go through. 
They kind of like break down everything. 
And I wish I could, I wish I could just like, let people know, 
or like, you know, have people go through the training that we had to go through, 
because I feel like it would help so much more with turbulence and with fear. 
But that being said, I have been through some really scary turbulence. 
Turbulence and it is terrifying when you're in it because you have no clue what's going on and you don't have control of the situation and you're just sitting in the seat and you can't move and you're just having to make sure that you know you're where you are in your space is like you're okay where you are so it's a tough it's a tough you know bag to be both like I'm confident in the people that have built this but then at the same time when you're in it you're like I'm not no this is not how I'm feeling so yeah so you're not a flight attendant anymore right no how can we be better travelers how can we help the the stewards out because I mean flight attendants they have a hard job so how can we help them out. 
Oh, okay. I often, so when you are a flight attendant and you're watching people come into the cabin, 
we have these things that we have to look out for. 
That's called ABP, able -bodied persons. 
And we have to identify like six or nine, depending on the amount of people that are in the flight, 
able -bodied persons that can be able to assist in case of an emergency. 
Seat. So we're kind of scanning, excuse me, as people are walking in and we say, 
hi, in my, in our minds, we're actually saying, okay, this person would be a good able -bodied person. 
This person would be a good one, making sure that we know where their seats are. 
And my tip that I do is when I walk on, I say, 
if you need anything, let me know, like kind of letting them know, 
hey, I can be an ABP. 
I've been through the training. 
I know how to evacuate in case of an emergency. 
And I've never, nothing, knock on wood, nothing has ever happened that I've had to be an. 
ABP. But I think when a flight attendant is able to be like, 
oh, cool. 
Okay. They're aware and they know that we can use them in case of an emergency. 
I think when I was a flight attendant, that was super helpful for me because then I, 
I don't know. 
I know that's a weird, that's a weird thing, but that's my flight attendant brain is thinking that. 
That's a great tip. 
I'm going to use that next time. 
Thank you. We are almost out of time. 
So where can people find you? 
Yes, people can find me on autumncarolyn .com and it's with two N's and on Instagram, 
Facebook. 
Facebook, TikTok. I'm Autumn Carolyn Photography. 
And on YouTube, I'm Autumn Carolyn Photography as well. 
And I'll be sure to tag all those in the show notes and in the blog so people can hop on over and see all your amazing photographs. 
Thank you. And what is one tip you have for someone that would like to connect with nature? 
I believe strongly that indulging your five senses into to nature is the number one thing a lot of times in my travel journals what I'll do is when I want to take in a moment and if I'm out in the world and I'm in this forest I'm looking up at these trees I'll like purposely say like okay I'm smelling this I'm tasting this I'm hearing the sounds from the birds I can feel my feet on the ground and I think that really opens up and makes. 
It makes me have to really think about where I am in that moment and makes me present in the moment versus if I'm just like, 
oh, cool. 
And then taking a picture. 
It's not really like, it's not really a moment that I can look back on and be like, 
wow, I remember what it felt like to smell that like deep sense of the woods up in that mountain in Austria. 
And it just was awesome. 
Awesome that is a great tip and i totally agree thank you so much for being on the show today oh thank you so much i am so happy that this worked out and i just had a blast and thank you so much thank you and until next time get outside and see what develops thanks for joining wild development studio we hope this exploration into the world of wildlife arts and adventure has sparked a desire to get outside and connect with something wild. 
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