NOLA Kitten Nursery

In this episode, Carley shares her journey as an animal rehabber, focusing on her educational work with NOLA Kitten Nursery and her TikTok Live community. She discusses her experiences with wildlife, including heartwarming stories of opossum rescues and the importance of mental health in animal rescue. Carly also introduces us to Eileen, a resilient opossum with an incredible survival story. Join us to learn about the challenges and rewards of wildlife rehabilitation and how Carly balances it all.

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Oh, Eileen, she had been struck by a vehicle and lost one of her eyes and vision in the other eye. 
They, you know, really thought humane euthanasia was the route. 
And then they noticed that she had pinky babies and they really don't do well without mama. 
I mean, after several days, it became very clear that she was going to survive and she was going to make it. 
And so they started reaching out to rehabbers to home her. 
And I got to be the lucky one that got to do that. 
And it wasn't until she got into my care that I truly realized what she had been through. 
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Today's episode is a topic that is near and dear to my heart, 
wildlife rescue. 
I earned my certification in 2020and compared to today's guests, I've only cared for a mere handful of animals. 
And I don't think that people really understand the hard work and dedication it takes to be a wildlife rehabber, 
but the job is so important because it preserves the balance of nature and biodiversity. 
To learn more on the the topic, I talked to Carly Self, who is the founder and director of NOLA Kitten Nursery, 
which is a neonatal mammal rescue based in New Orleans, Louisiana. 
This rescue specializes in kittens and is also licensed to care for opossums, 
armadillos, squirrels, and more. 
She has an active TikTok featuring rescue insights and education, and she will often go live to share ins and outs of animal rescue. 
She works with local government entities and rescues to help educate the public on TNR and full circle rescue practices, 
monitoring for new animal rescues and individuals on a national level, helping them to overcome the steep learning curve of neonatal care. 
She plans and teaches monthly in -person training on bottle baby care. 
She also coordinates and oversees all fundraising efforts, coordinates intakes, transports, release, and adoptions for all domestic animals and wildlife. 
Carly, thank you so much for being being here today i'm excited you're my first podcast i'm pumped yeah it's gonna be so much fun and it's you're already a natural at doing all this i've seen you on tiktok live and we met through mic drop workshop where they were trying to guide us to becoming a speaker have you taken that leap and gotten on stage yet i um well yesterday we did our very first um in -house education for an elementary school. 
Oh, that's exciting. 
Um, it was donation based, um, for the wildlife group that I work with silent voices. 
I was their possum lady, um, and got to educate, um, K through five, 
um, about possums. 
And it was really exciting. 
It was really exciting. 
Um, and then I've got a couple other, um, like quotes out trying to like work through. 
So we're getting there. 
It's happening. So when you, cause you're an animal rehabber. 
Are you going to be speaking all about animal rehab or what's your topic going to be on? 
So really, because so much of my TikTok lives are educational content and with animals, 
really, you kind of need to watch hands on. 
Like there's people that learn, you know, hands on. 
There's people that are visual learners. 
So I really hope to do more inspirational speeches and talk a lot more about the mental health behind animal rescue. 
Um and obviously mental health it's outside of animal rescue right we all struggle with it from time to time um so my hope is to use what i've learned in my animal rescue career um through you know burnout recognition through setting healthy boundaries um through trying to mitigate my own animalistic behavior to be triggered by something and be angry and reactive and turn that into more of like a coaching of. 
You know, how I've seen animals work through those responses and how myself have learned from them. 
Sign me up. 
I want to go to this right now. 
It sounds amazing. 
We talked a little bit before we started recording because I rehab animals too. 
Right now i've got two eastern box turtles in my care uh between the two they have six legs and i mean i'm sure you've got your hands full i've seen some of your stuff on tick tock live i mean i'm waiting for someone to act up i've got literally within touching distance i have 1111possums 12kittens and two squirrels like i'm just waiting someone's gonna act up at some point so yeah i was gonna gonna say because opossums have a lot of babies yeah and you seem to be doing a lot of rehab with opossums and i won't wait last year i had about 15little babies they are adorable let me tell you that anybody that says an opossum is ugly they are so wrong yeah no they're especially younger babies now those pinkies i get it okay they're a little they're a little alien looking but the second that hair comes in from no they're the cutest things on the planet their little noses and their eyes no giant ears yes a little noises that they make are just so cute and they were so much easier than squirrels in my opinion to take care of oh my gosh yeah well once they're laughing yes the whole tubing and everything is like a whole thing um but yeah once they're like lapping on their own oh yeah so I mean it's got to pull at your heartstrings how adorable they are how do you set healthy boundaries especially you're in New Orleans I'm assuming you guys get some pretty heavy winds that's gonna cause trees to come down you're gonna get babies how do you set healthy boundaries so I think the biggest learning curve for me is that my boundaries boundaries when it comes to animal rescue aren't rigid. 
Which may sound like the opposite of what most people are going to tell you about boundaries. 
I tried really early on in my animal rescue career to be like, 
this number of animals, you know, in this number of species is it period. 
And what was happening is I would meet that, you know, I would have four kittens and one possum and my kittens would all be weans. 
And I'm like, all right, well, I'm at five animals. 
That's what I said my my boundary was, but I've got the time and the space and the energy. 
So I had to learn much more to get in tuned with my overall mental health. 
I had to learn what the burnout looked like for me, what the signs were that it was coming. 
If I'm going to sleep and I'm waking up and I'm waking waking up exhausted, 
red flag, like red flag. 
Okay. I'm doing too much. 
Um, if I'm snappier with my husband and my kids more than I should be like red flag, 
I'm doing too much. 
So, um, for me, I tried to stop doing it more by like a specific number of animal and more about how the animals that were in my care affecting my mental health. 
And when I started seeing some those negative indicators, then I'm at capacity now. 
And if I need to reach out to other people to take some of that workload off, 
and I would then take like my healthiest babies, my oldest babies and pass them on to less experienced like rehabbers and fosters. 
Because it's got to be on a case by case basis. 
Sometimes you have some extreme cases like right now, you've got a mom mama possum. 
Tell us about her story. 
Oh, Eileen. Um, so Eileen came to me from a vet clinic. 
Um, she had been struck by a vehicle and, um, unfortunately lost one of her eyes and vision in the other eye. 
Um, they, you know, really thought humane euthanasia was the route. 
And then they noticed that she had pinky babies, um, in her pouch and they really don't do well without mama at all um and so this amazing vet clinic um removed her eye gave her some medicine for the pressure um swelling in her brain and kind of like let her had to she had to fight for it you know she had to do the rest possums metabolize medicine very differently this was not a wildlife vet so they were kind of just you know hoping um and after several days it became very clear that she was going to survive and she was going to make it and so they started reaching out to rehabbers to home her and i got to be the lucky one that got to do that and um once she came to me i really you would think being hit by a car was uh bad and it wasn't until she got into my care that i truly realized um what she had been through um she has half a tail and um it is very clear that she has half of a tail because of a shovel. 
She has two very deep old lacerations like deep scars and you can see the perfect like slightly curvature shape. 
So you can see where they tried higher up and then that tissue and bone was too thick and they came down and then came down again. 
She also had some growths in the top of her head when I was doing her initial initial examination that were but I mean to me they were benign right they're not oozing anything I don't see any red tissues i'm like fine i'm moving on to the other major injuries and now that those are healing up i went back to kind of evaluate them because she was itching at one and they're bb bullets oh my god she has one here on the top of her head and the one that's back here by her ear because it's in that fatty tissue is really bothering her because you know her body is trying to work it out um so this sweet girl you know has lived a year which is half of her lifetime you you know. 
For most possums and has been shot twice, had her tail cut off with a shovel and been hit by a car. 
And it's still like the best mama ever. 
Like, I mean, gold stars, she's killing it. 
So yeah, we see some things, unfortunately, and I feel absolutely honored that she is in my care now. 
She unfortunately will be non -releasable due to blindness and her seizures. 
And I really I really hope to use her as an animal advocate to educate about how awesome these animals are, 
because I have no doubt that's why she was treated that way, is they don't see their, 
you know, their pets, they don't see a dog or a cat when they look at her. 
They see a rodent, they see a dirty animal. 
And I really hope, amongst many goals of mine, is to educate more about, 
you know, the benefit that they truly have to our environment. 
They really are incredible animals and rehabbing them they were so easy because you can give after they are done weaning yeah and give them a little dish of their their moist cat food and yogurt and fruits and veggies and their litter trained and they were so much easier than squirrels like i said um but they are just the sweetest most beautiful things oh yeah and it's so it is such such a shame that people treat the animal like that. 
But that's really cool that you're going to be able to use that animal as an outreach animal and can see firsthand. 
I mean, you did that TikTok live last night and it's Eileen. 
Eileen, yeah. Eileen had the seizure and you were able to calm her down and she's taking care of her babies. 
It was just, she's the sweetest thing. 
I don't know how anybody could not fall in love with that animal. 
So that's really cool that you're able to to do that yeah i feel really excited about it how long have you been doing wildlife rehab and where did this passion even come from so i've been an animal lover my whole life i mean i look back on photos from a kid that i don't even remember and i'm holding a kitten or you know something i just think it just i was born this way um i've been volunteering at you you know. 
Different, um, humane societies and shelters since before I even was technically able to, 
I used to have an aunt that would lie about my age for me. 
And she would come with me as my chaperone, um, and help me. 
Um, you know, cause I think it was like 13that you had to be like a minimum volunteer. 
And at like, you know, 11and 12,she was like, yeah, she's 13.
She's coming to volunteer. 
She's small for her age. 
Um, so I've always just had a passion for animals. 
I didn't start my official rescue journey until my late 20s. 
My husband and I, boyfriend at the time, were burnt out, just absolutely burnt out. 
Story of my life, right? 
Just burning out every, burning both ends of the candle, even before I got into animal rescue. 
You. I had very unhealthy boundaries around work -life balance. 
And I was working a job where I covered five States. 
I was in medical sales and I was always traveling. 
And my husband was an environmental engineer at the time and was also always traveling. 
And we sat down at lunch one day and I was like, I think I'm going to quit my job. 
And he was like, I literally brought you here to tell you that I want to quit my job. 
And I was like, well, we can't both quit our jobs. 
And he he was like, yeah, we can. 
And like, we've, you know, we saved and we pinched pennies and we took, 
you know, like two months off. 
He pivoted into financial advising. 
I pivoted into more consulting. 
And we found out very quickly that we weren't good at doing nothing. 
So when we got a phone call from my mother -in -law that a little baby squirrel had fallen out of a tree in her her backyard i was there in a heartbeat i just i needed something to nurture i needed something to focus on because i had been working like these 6070hour work weeks i didn't know what to do with myself um his name was morty um he was our first little baby together i laugh at myself now knowing how old morty actually was and that i was literally waking up every hour and like feeding him with a dropper and like stressing about him and like morty was like nine weeks old like morty was I I know this now as a rehabber that Morty didn't need me to wake up every hour and wear him in a scarf and like fuss over him um but that's where that passion started Morty made it very clear when he hit puberty that he wanted to be an outdoor squirrel and we respected that boundary um and then we quite literally had empty nest syndrome and so um I got uh tagged in a Facebook message about some kittens i'm like how different can kittens be from squirrels i can do a squirrel i can do kittens let me tell you they're different i figured that out um but it's never stopped since then um and that was almost eight years ago yeah that's amazing what is the biggest challenge that you face as an animal rehabber people yeah people what um finding the grace for them when you are already emotionally exhausted and burnt out um finding the grace for their lack of education around a certain situation um finding the emotional space to deal with their emotions emotions because this is new to them and they're panicked and this is a new baby and i don't know what to do um people people is the hardest part of animal rescue for me what would be some advice that you have for somebody that found an animal they want to help and they're freaking out how can they best manage that situation hold one second daisy is being very loud daisy sorry it's my bunny can you chew on something less loud no can you hear that a little bit yeah i mean it's not authentic podcast about animals so we can't hear animals in the background well that is daisy wearing down her teeth just so you know rabbits need to whittle down their teeth so she's doing a very natural thing um she likes she loves cardboard it's her favorite thing so we keep her hay in a big cardboard box and she nibbles and then eats and then she like shreds and then she not the cardboard she eats the hay anyways um question please um yes what advice somebody found an animal yeah freaking out they have the best interest at heart what can they do to mitigate that situation so i'll go over the things that are universal right because every individual animal is going to be a little different. 
If you find a possum, pick it up. 
Mom is not coming back. 
Homegirl's got 13at minimum. 
She busy lady. 
Okay. So if you find a possum, pick them up. 
Don't be scared of them. 
They can't carry rabies. 
They're quite clean animals and call your local wildlife rehabber. 
You can find them through Google. 
All other animals, you can make sure they're warm to to the touch. 
If they are cold to the touch, they are in danger of hypothermia. 
Their organs can shut down. 
Tiny little babies cannot regulate their body temperature. 
It is an old wives tale that you, if you touch a baby, 
mom is not going to come back for them. 
It honestly, it came from the 80s and 90s babies when we were just like outside in the street. 
Your mom just didn't want you playing with baby raccoons. 
Okay. And for a good reason. 
All right. But touch them and make sure they're warm to the touch. 
If they are warm to the touch and they are not in danger, 
they're not in the middle of a road. 
They're not covered in insects. 
There's not torrential rain or snow. 
Leave them where they are. 
Mom typically will come back for them. 
Squirrels and raccoons, they might have fallen out of the nest. 
They do have their own way of alarming and alerting, and mom will come back. 
Cats are the best mothers when it comes to self -care. 
Cats know what they need. 
She's going to say, I'll be back. 
I need to eat, and I need to drink some water, and then I I will come back from you. 
She puts her needs first so that she can continue taking care of her babies. 
It's a great thing. 
We should probably learn as human moms. 
And so leave them there. 
If you are in a position where you can watch and check often, 
then awesome. 
If not, you can take flour and put a little ring of flour around those kittens. 
And then that way, when you come back, if that flour is disturbed, 
if you see that there's footprints coming back and forth, it means mom is coming and she's feeding them. 
You're just not seeing it. 
Hmm. 
So the kittens that you rescue, are they like outdoor cats? 
I'd say about 90of them. 
Um, we have some people who didn't spay and neuter their own specific pet, 
and then they thought it would be cute to let their cat have kittens. 
And then mom either rejects them or mom passes away from a complicated birth. 
Um, I mean, we've had some very complicated stories but the majority of our kittens are little gutter kitties little little street trash kitties so what's your opinion on outdoor cats um my opinion on outdoor cats is if they are already outdoors let's meet them where they're at let's get them tnr'd let's get them vaccinated and let's ensure that that population isn't growing um i if they are not already already outdoors let's do everything we can to keep them indoors as they do affect wildlife and on average outdoor cats live significantly shorter lives than indoor cats. 
I have two outdoor cats they were rescued at an older age one was rescued at three years old he had already been an outdoor cat and ended up with a major eye injury he ended up in my care after that surgery surgery, 
and he made it very clear after he recovered that he was not an indoor cat. 
He was not interested in any way, shape, or form, and so for my own sanity and for the urine smell in my home, 
we let him outside, and he lives his best life out there. 
He has a QR code caller, so if anyone comes across him, they can scan it, 
and he has his own little web page, and it tells you his name, 
where he came from, and who he is. 
He has my number, his dad's number, has all the of things um and so yeah I do think there's space for outdoor cats but I think it's because they've already existed in that space and we need to do our best job to to meet them where they're at because I thought that was a little interesting that you're rehabbing animals like wild animals and kittens and yeah the outdoor cats because it could almost be conflicting things but that's a beautiful way to put it that you know if they're used to the outdoors leave them that way spay a neuter you gotta do a barker there yeah and then so yeah i like that that was a good answer um do you have a favorite animal that you gravitate towards so i have a favorite animal and i have only gotten to rehab one as a little baby and it's armadillo wow during covid we got a umbilical cord armadillo i mean she was young young young young young um i think part of it is she ignited a passion for me again it had been so long since i had such a huge challenge it'd been so long since i was like i actually don't know what i'm doing at all um and so striking up that passion again to research another animal and find out all of the ins and outs and the proper husbandry was a lot of fun um and they just had she had a great personality she was quirky she was weird um she was like having a drunk nocturnal toddler around all the time i mean she was she was sweet it was fun it was it was a good good rehab do you guys see very many of them in new orleans not really and i think that's part of the reason um i've had two adults brought to me with injuries one was releasable one passed away in care um but that's the only baby in eight years i've ever received they come in like little kind of spurts of louisiana but you don't really see them that often in the city limits which is where i'm at okay yeah i was just in texas last weekend i was really hoping to see an armadillo or a roadrunner or something but we were in the city so yeah not many we just saw a lot of crackles so yeah um so if somebody wanted to follow in your footsteps and be an animal rehabber what steps can they take to make that a reality. 
So first, I encourage everyone to not reinvent the wheel. 
Reach out to a local rehabber near you. 
Let them coach you. 
So for me specifically in Louisiana, you do have to do one year of a sub underneath a licensed rehabber. 
So the way that our structure is set up in Louisiana for wildlife and fisheries, 
you have to do that. 
You have to reach out to someone. 
Every state's a little bit different, though, for their requirements, and they're also different with what permits and certain animals you need. 
Like in some states, you don't need a permit to rehab a squirrel. 
Squirrels are not a vector species, meaning that they can contract rabies. 
So it's, you know, rehab a squirrel if you want to rehab a squirrel. 
So it really just depends. 
But mine is reach out to a local rehabber. 
Find someone who is doing what you want to do in your area. 
That's Daisy. And see if you guys vibe and if you guys can learn from each other and then take the process of looking up your wildlife and fisheries? 
And what's the legal steps you need to take to make sure that your animals are legally protected and safe in your care? 
That's excellent advice. 
I am a sub under somebody and I wouldn't have it any other way because there is just so many ins and outs and every case is a little bit different. 
And your rehabber either has seen it before or knows somebody that has, 
because there there is a huge network of, of people online that will work together. 
I had one opossum last year, we named him a hole because he was not happy to see anyone anywhere ever. 
And he kept holding his back foot and we're like, that's really weird. 
What happened to him? 
That's not even why he was was in care. 
He was found in somebody's garage in a, um, a dresser and he wasn't injured or anything. 
So they wanted to rehab them and make sure before they send him out. 
So he's holding his leg. 
And I tell the person that I'm a sub under, and she's like, 
well, let me reach out to a couple of different groups. 
And they're like, we need a picture. 
I tell you what, it was like an exorcism there was like saliva there was the most foul smelling oh yeah matter just coming out non -stop i mean it was it was special yeah and we had to give him medicine and everything so that that was not fun um and then when we they decided you know he's okay to to be released everybody's like don't know what's wrong with him pictures look fine he's had his round of medicine release them he walked just fine i'm like were you faking it the whole day whole indeed yeah so weird but they are fun they are and that community is imperative because it's not like kittens and dogs i can't call up a vet yeah um i can google but i'm gonna get 15different different things. 
There's minimal money in wildlife. 
So there's not a lot of research. 
It's not like cats and kittens where they're people's pets and people will fund, 
you know, research and you've got Purina doing, you know, major, you know, 
scientific studies behind the food and the diet. 
Like it's not like that for our wildlife. 
So a lot of us are going based off just things that have worked for us and we all learn from each other. 
So it, it really can be be a beautiful community i love it a lot now you took to tiktok live a couple months ago how has taking that leap changed the course of your rehab work. 
Big big huge um i don't know if i will ever stop waking up and wondering if this is a dream the community that is there is supportive and beautiful the thing that i love most about tiktok is they give you the best tools to curate your platform so i don't deal with a lot of negativity and trolling and like angry people because i have so many tools and especially on live like like having moderators that are dedicated to what I want for my platform. 
That we have built a community where I truly feel like it is a getaway, 
not only for myself, but for others. 
And you really can't say that with most social media platforms. 
I mean, the toxicity that can come from social media is extreme, just like the beauty is. 
And TikTok's really been the first place where I truly feel like I can be in better control of who's seeing my content um how they're coming across my content how they're even digesting my content um it has completely changed our non -profit financially um it has pivoted some of my goals um i never considered actually public speaking about mental health until TikTok. 
The amount of people reaching out to me and direct DM saying, you know, 
I never thought about this way or that way, or your lives pull me out of a deep depression. 
This is what I needed. 
Or I look forward to your lives every day. 
I have extreme anxiety and I've gotten to meet so many friends online that are helping with that because we suffer from the same things. 
Moms reaching out that never thought that they could foster because they have kids I've always wanted to foster but I've never you know and life -changing absolutely life -changing and for the better that's incredible I started getting into TikTok and you know 2020as we all did yeah and uh you know if there's been so many starts and stops like I get into a rhythm I'm doing videos and. 
And then I hear they're going to cancel us and close it down. 
And then I stop. 
How do you keep going? 
Do you have a backup platform to help you out with that? 
I'm Nola Kitten Nursery on all platforms. 
So I have a YouTube, I have an Instagram, and I have a Facebook. 
I do not, literally one platform is a full -time job, right? 
Like I have over 200,000followers between direct messages, you know, editing, 
editing takes forever, like editing all the content. 
And what I don't want to do is just copy paste onto Instagram and Facebook I want people to follow me on platforms for different reasons um and so I try to do something a little bit different on each one but because of that TikTok gets 80of my time and we're kind of getting leftovers for everybody else um I try not to live my life from a place of fear um as a mom I don't always do that great when it comes to my kids but for my professional life I really try to live my my. 
My, my life with not with fear -based decisions. 
And if I were to completely switch over to a platform or pivot and start giving more time and energy to Instagram, 
even though that's not really my, my, it doesn't really speak to my creativity and who I am as a creator that I'm doing myself a disservice. 
So my followers know that if something were to happen to TikTok, we would make a decision together as to where we would want to go. 
And I would, you know, stick to that. 
It would be unfortunate because i don't know of any other platform that is allowing content creators to monetize um as as diversely as tiktok is yeah yeah it is unfortunate and i really hope that i mean i've i met so many amazing people through tiktok and stay connected it would be such a shame yeah so i really would is there anything that we didn't cover that you would would like to cover i mean we can talk about public speaking a little bit more if you're interested in that um i'd love to know if your journey you know with your public speaking i know you've got the podcast but you know if you don't mind telling me a little bit about yourself and you know maybe i'll have some input too so 2020rolled around i was furloughed and instead of baking bread i decided to rehab squirrels and uh that was a lot of fun and but i gosh we had one we named him jason we found they he was found on friday the 13th we named him jason which is a mistake because he was a holy terror let me tell you these animals i don't know it's a chicken and the egg situation i don't know if we name these animals after something and the universe just helps them take on that persona or if they if we're just getting that but when i tell you i name a baby that's a little edgy like that nuts all of them I mean just yeah learned my lesson yeah that one I you know he would hide walnuts everywhere and we wouldn't know where they were and if we got near them and he was out he would lunge and oh my gosh and I just like the opossum so much more because they're later and like it's kind of it seems like a slower progression when it's like okay they're starting to get a little bit more should i say wild yeah you you know what i mean like they start acting like oh i don't want to be around people anymore i need to be outside it was a slower progression um yeah squirrels is like a light switch they wake up one day and they're just a -holes and you're like what happened exactly like literally just they they wake up on the wrong side of the bed and they're there for the rest of yeah adulthood yeah and i mean don't get me wrong they're totally adorable but they've got really good marketing people or something i just like my heart strings for the opossums are just i know i i love the mouth and all the teeth and the fact they've got was it 13nipples yes circular shape like you're the weirdest animal did you know they're the only animal on the planet that has an odd number of nipples i thought i think i did know that and that's like why i yeah i don't know why i have made it my life's goal to to educate taylor swift that there is an animal on this planet that gives birth after 13days and has 13nipples and that they are the only animal on the planet that has 13nipples taylor just i need her to know that that she has a spirit animal out there i don't think that she knows it's her spirit animal and i just need her to know we're gonna have to tag her in all the things i'm sure you are we've got oh i i listen i i'm trying to come up with a like a a possum taylor swift like product line and like i like i'm imagining like possums like leaning up against the number 13all cute you you know? 
Oh my gosh. 
You know? Yes. 
I think we need to make it happen. 
Yeah. All right. 
Well, what about, you already said that everybody can find you at Nola Kitten Nursery on all the platforms. 
You don't have a website yet? 
Not yet. By the time this airs, I should. 
It's literally, I should have it in like a couple of weeks, but you know how that goes. 
But yeah, it'll be nolakittennursery .org um and yeah it'll be up perfect and i will tag all all the things in the show notes so people can find you and get up to date on all the animals that you're rehabbing before we go what is one tip that you have for someone that would like to connect with nature. 
Listen. 
Listen. 
Go outside and truly listen and see if you can find that animal. 
I think you'll be surprised as to what animal are making the noises. 
We assume a lot of noises are birds that are not. 
They're typically squirrels. 
But just, yeah, get outside and just listen more. 
Just open your ears and be present. 
That's great advice. 
Thank you so much. 
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