no niche needed
breaking the "single career path" myth
Ever wondered about life's different avenues and how to navigate through them? Well, you're in for a treat! Building off my varied career experiences in the medium of entertainment, I am joined by my co-host whose journey in real estate and house flipping has been nothing short of thrilling. Together, we bring you an intriguing conversation about embracing Walt Disney's mantra: "If you can dream it, you can do it."
Chance takes us through his diverse career journeys: from firefighting to car sales, marketing to running his own handyman business. His most recent project, Bizwip, aims to aid home service professionals in expanding their businesses. Ever the opportunist, his story serves as a testament to the importance of not boxing oneself into a single career path, and instead, embracing the vast possibilities that life offers.
We round off our episode by sharing my journey in the entertainment industry. I share my experiences, from internships to reporting roles, my transition to a marketing role in healthcare, and finally landing a dream job at a remote production company.
We also offer advice to those on the path to success, stressing the importance of internships, networking, and maintaining a positive mindset.
So, does success seem elusive? Remember, if you can dream it, you can do it! Tune in for an engaging conversation packed with fascinating stories and invaluable tips.
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Ever wondered about life's different avenues and how to navigate through them? Well, you're in for a treat! Building off my varied career experiences in the medium of entertainment, I am joined by my co-host whose journey in real estate and house flipping has been nothing short of thrilling. Together, we bring you an intriguing conversation about embracing Walt Disney's mantra: "If you can dream it, you can do it."
Chance takes us through his diverse career journeys: from firefighting to car sales, marketing to running his own handyman business. His most recent project, Bizwip, aims to aid home service professionals in expanding their businesses. Ever the opportunist, his story serves as a testament to the importance of not boxing oneself into a single career path, and instead, embracing the vast possibilities that life offers.
We round off our episode by sharing my journey in the entertainment industry. I share my experiences, from internships to reporting roles, my transition to a marketing role in healthcare, and finally landing a dream job at a remote production company.
We also offer advice to those on the path to success, stressing the importance of internships, networking, and maintaining a positive mindset.
So, does success seem elusive? Remember, if you can dream it, you can do it! Tune in for an engaging conversation packed with fascinating stories and invaluable tips.
Insta: @nonicheneededpod
tiktok: @nonicheneededpod
youtube: @nonicheneededpod
Your favorite quote. Let's start there.
Speaker 3:My favorite quote is if you can dream it, you can do it.
Speaker 1:Walt Disney.
Speaker 3:Walt Disney. I'm a big Disney girl. He's my biggest creative inspiration, I would say of all time. For sure. If you're watching me on YouTube right now, he's literally the quote that's hanging behind me right now. Yeah. That quote is also my Instagram bio. If you can dream it, you can do it. It's just something that I've lived by. It's such a. It's just a simple, yet so profound quote.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:If you can dream it, you can do it.
Speaker 1:If you can dream it, you can do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know.
Speaker 1:It doesn't say you gotta hone in on one thing and only do that the rest of your life. It says whatever you can dream.
Speaker 3:Exactly yeah, and we are testaments to that.
Speaker 1:Very much so. We talked. Our backgrounds are wildly diverse within our careers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we teased it a little bit earlier on.
Speaker 1:In the first episode.
Speaker 3:But, um, we have both had very different paths to get where we are today.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, mine had a little bit more of a similar theme going on, as it was entertainment, but they were very different parts of entertainment, whereas you had a very interesting path, starting as a firefighter which is when we met Mm-hmm, to all these little things in between which we're gonna get to, and now you're a successful businessman starting like you have a very successful business, yeah, and then you have a new venture, that's, that's coming up, so why don't we start on your end, okay, and we just have a lot more of an interesting story because you had some sort of invisible string that pulled it together, yeah.
Speaker 1:So right out of high school for those of you that don't know me I went to the fire academy and then immediately got a firefighter job down in south Texas and started working. And the thing about firefighting is you have a 4896 schedule, right? So you work two days and you're off for four. You know that Mm-hmm, but the beautiful thing about this is the amount of time that you get to explore other ventures, to explore other things.
Speaker 3:A lot of downtime.
Speaker 1:A ton of downtime. You know, four days off is a lot of days off every week, basically.
Speaker 3:Is that typical, though? Like as a firefighter, do most of them have little side gigs? Or oh, yeah, yeah, do they just take this Super typical, almost everybody's?
Speaker 1:got like some Christmas light hanging business or pressure washing or something.
Speaker 3:Just something to do, because two days of work well, it's a lot, it's just. You want something to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something else, something else when you're at home. So you know, I did a lot of side quests while I was advancing throughout the firefighter chain of command, so started off as a rookie, worked my way up all the way to a lieutenant. I was also an interim captain. That took about three only about three years to get to the lieutenant's position and I was a firefighter for a total of seven years. So in that time I did a lot of side adventures, one of them being the lawn care, another one being the pressure washing RVs I washed people's RVs. Another one was like this little thrive, I think, is what it was called.
Speaker 3:It was a pyramid scheme. That's what it was. That's what it was.
Speaker 1:That was basically a pyramid scheme.
Speaker 3:He sold supplements and I told him from the get go it was a pyramid scheme. Yeah, he was just a sucker for it and tried it. For what? Not even a month.
Speaker 1:I think it was like maybe two months, but learned a little bit from how to sell products, I guess, but not too much Lawn care. I learned a whole lot about door to door sales. I went all around town trying to do door to door sales. That was my first like door to door sales thing, just handing out business cards. I printed awesome, so super cheesy looking business cards.
Speaker 3:What was it called? What was your business called Oshel lawn care? It wasn't anything fancy, but it had flames on it.
Speaker 1:It was literally just an overlay.
Speaker 3:Because I have a firefighter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what was like a trust your yard, like I trust my job, or something. It was so stupid, what so? Anyways, from that to the press, watching to the scheme, the pyramid scheme. After that I did the real estate, went to real estate, real estate school and became a realtor, sold houses for about a year, probably realized in that time that we paid a whole lot of money to contractors. And that's the time where you and I had a long discussion about maybe buying a house and flipping it. And I know, like, right when we started doing that, I was super excited. What were your thoughts Like when I was like, hey, we're going to flip a house. What were your initial thoughts? I never really asked you that.
Speaker 3:Like well, I mean, every venture that you've had from job to job, I've always been just kind of like what, yeah, but this one actually surprisingly made the most sense because your dad has had a bunch of experience in construction and you've grown up around it and every time that we're up with your parents you're working on something and so Fixing something, building something, oddly enough. That was like the least chaotic job choice that I felt like you make.
Speaker 3:I was like, okay, well, he's really good at this. Oh, can you hear the dogs in the back?
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are our focus For those.
Speaker 3:Yeah we've got three dogs, so if you ever hear them, they like to bark at people they see outside.
Speaker 1:We're tired of editing it out, yeah so just deal with it.
Speaker 3:I'm just kidding. We love them, but that was, yeah, the least chaotic move that you could have made. I was actually really excited because I got to help.
Speaker 1:I got to help design the interior. You did a lot of the colors and everything.
Speaker 3:Choose the colors and everything, and that was really fun and you were able to bring it to life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we flipped that house. Then we bought another one. We flipped that house, and that's the one we're currently living in. That was amazing. That taught me a whole lot just about everything Like. The biggest thing I learned from it, though, was the self-fulfillment, like I did that.
Speaker 3:I love my work. I love it. I think the coolest part was when we sold that house, that we flipped and you were able to see somebody's living in something that I created.
Speaker 1:I still drive by it and you're like, wow, someone's living there. Look at that. They put a fence in the yard.
Speaker 3:I know it's actually really sweet, like we did that for somebody. We created somebody's home, yeah it was really, really cool.
Speaker 1:So it just brought a lot of fulfillment and I was like I don't think the firefighter job is bringing me that much fulfillment anymore. Like I said, I got to the top. In my opinion. I was a lieutenant and I would write up as captain and I didn't want to be a chief. I didn't want to be like a Monday through Friday 8 to 5 firefighter Like that just didn't sound fun to me. Chiefs are more admin side, whereas lieutenants and captains they're still on scenes. So I was already at the top and I was in the mindset at that point, right then and there, that I didn't want to stay and get comfortable, mainly because of you. If I hadn't met you, I'd probably still be a firefighter like the rest of my life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you've done that a lot.
Speaker 1:Never have done anything different, which I'm so thankful for, because right when I was going through that, you left your job, went through some hard times but then found a really nice job and you were way happier. And I was like I wonder if I can do that. I wonder if I can lose the firefighter job and go do something else. And right at that time I think everything happens for a reason. I think you know God's played a huge role in our lives and everything.
Speaker 1:But specifically right at that time I'm going through all of those thoughts and my friend reaches out to me and he's like hey, why don't you come be a car salesman? And I was like no, my immediate reaction is like get lost, bro, I'm a firefighter, I'm not going to do that. And I thought about it for a couple of days and then I brought it to your attention. I really didn't even bring it to your attention like the first time you mentioned it, but after I thought about it for like a day or two, I talked with you about it and of course, once again you're encouraged me to follow my heart, do whatever I desired. You definitely didn't seem excited that I was no.
Speaker 3:And I wasn't, but I was never going to stop you from failing. That's something. Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm going to encourage you to try as many new things as you want, many new ventures as you want. Right. Unless it's something so stupid and dangerous.
Speaker 1:You're like stop. No, that's literally a waste of your time, don't do that.
Speaker 3:But there were skills that, in the back of my head, I knew you could develop from something like this, whether it was like resilience or whether it was something more specific like sales.
Speaker 1:So now, when we go to the dealership, you know what to look out for they can't make a sucker out of me, right, I did learn that and we've bought two vehicles since then and it's been like, oh, I know how to play.
Speaker 3:I know how to haggle. I know what you're doing back there. So, that's always nice.
Speaker 1:So I did that for about two, three months and I did good. I definitely did good, like I wasn't bad at it. I didn't stop doing it because I was bad at it. I stopped doing it because I didn't want to be sleazy, I didn't want to Like. I started using my skills.
Speaker 3:To take advantage of people.
Speaker 1:To take advantage of people and I didn't like that but that's how you made money.
Speaker 1:Like that's the only way you made money and I don't care what people say. Like there is no pure genuine sold car salesman. I just genuinely don't believe that. Like I really don't, Because you're always out to squeeze every penny out of someone and that's not just sales, that's not just any sales job, because I currently own a business and I don't do that. If there's an old lady that needs something fixed, I'm going to give her some help.
Speaker 1:Anyways, I let the car sales went to marketing. There's a guy in town that I knew did some drone photography for. He reached out, joined his marketing firm and I started selling marketing to businesses and we started helping other businesses grow and I helped a lot of businesses grow. I had over 50 clients at one point that we were helping their businesses grow exponentially Just huge.
Speaker 1:And so I did that for about a year and I advanced a little bit within that company but didn't ever really take the leap. I wanted to. Talked with my boss about it, Like, yeah, we're going to promote you, blah, blah, blah. It didn't happen right when I wanted it to. Maybe it would have eventually, but it didn't happen when I said hey, if I'm not promoted within a year, I'm going to leave, and I wasn't within a year. So I was like, OK, well, I'm going to leave, and I should know that I wanted to shut down. I made that decision right after I made the decision to start the handyman company. I started the handyman company on the side of the marketing job For about a month. I did them both and I realized real quickly I could make way more money having my own business doing handyman as I could working for somebody else honestly.
Speaker 1:That was the first time that set in my mind, like I have so many skills that I've learned from sales, that I've learned from marketing, that I've learned from my management skills as a leader in the fire department, like high stress situations. I've gathered all of those different skills and I was like why don't I make my own business the exact way I wanna make it? And that's what I've done. I've built the handyman business. When I left the marketing job and did that full time, my boss, alex, actually asked me. He was like hey, chance, let's go out to dinner. And, long story short, we had dinner and he had invested thousands into the company and now he's my business partner and we've grown this thing huge To where now we're creating another business called Bizwip. We're still doing the SmartFX handyman, which I don't know if you've realized up until this point. But I've never done multiple things at once and stuck with all of them. I've always like quit something and moved forward. But this is actually really cool.
Speaker 3:This shows that you started with something, but you're finding something within that realm and branching out.
Speaker 1:I'm finding something within it and branching it. So Bizwip is gonna be teaching other home service professionals how to grow their business, like I grew mine, like we grew mine, like Alex and I grew it, and so, anyways, I've gone from so many different other little things.
Speaker 3:That had like nothing in common.
Speaker 1:To back where. Yeah, exactly the only thing that's in common was like right when I first started firefighting, I opened my lawn care business. I think that's the only thing that's very similar to handyman business, Nothing else, or I guess the house flipping but that's not really like a career. That was more of just-.
Speaker 3:That was just more of a fun thing.
Speaker 1:we did More of a fun thing, which is crazy to say, like most people can just flip out for fun, so that's cool. But yeah, now I feel like I'm a pretty successful businessman and it's all because I didn't stick to one tiny little thing. I ventured out of that niche of firefighting. I left the fire department.
Speaker 3:You're saying that there was no niche needed, Exactly so that's my story.
Speaker 1:Your story's cool too, though I mean the fact that you've done yours is at least a little bit more like within the same realm it's in the same realm but just totally different things Like mine is in the bubble of entertainment or media and I've pretty much done everything under the sun of that.
Speaker 3:But normally people in entertainment they stick to one thing that they're good at. You're either just a director, you're just an actor, just a singer, et cetera. And I know they villainized Taylor Swift for so long because when she ventured from country to pop people were like no stick to country. Had she not gone out of that niche of country, we wouldn't have the Taylor Swift we had today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a really good point. I actually never really thought about that.
Speaker 3:She's done almost every genre now of music and people she's-.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we definitely would've got sick of it if she just stayed with country forever, but I mean, sticking to one thing.
Speaker 3:I just don't see the benefit in any way. But starting from my end, I mean I really started working back in high school, Like my first job in the real world was being a theme park photographer, which I learned how to take pictures, and that was when I was 16-ish. After that I was on the news station at our high school and I got introduced to the world of news, to the world of script writing and being on camera. I was also doing music on the side. I also opened for Ariana Grande.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, you did actually it was the national anthem, but still it wasn't open for her.
Speaker 3:She wasn't too too big at the time. She had released the Way with Mac Miller and that was a good song, anyway. So I did music, I did TV, and that was all before I had even reached college. Yet College I decided I wanna study film and broadcast production. So I did more of the behind the scenes stuff because I didn't wanna do the journalism route, which is weird because even with all my experience in film and production stuff, I was still hired on as a news anchor. But just to back up, before in college I had gotten my first internship with the biggest radio station in Houston. It was KRBE and the host at the time was Tyler Frye and he did the evening show. So I was an intern there and I would drive from my school in Huntsville all the way to Houston every day to do the night show with him. And it was cool because I learned how the radio industry works. I learned what goes into booking interviews and the scheduled time slots for things and making sure everything was running okay.
Speaker 1:Were you a voice on the radio too.
Speaker 3:I was a voice.
Speaker 1:So you weren't just like a back end?
Speaker 3:No, so I co-hosted with him.
Speaker 1:Got you. Oh, I honestly didn't know that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I co-hosted with Tyler Frye and we did the what was it? The top. I forgot what the name was called, but we did like the top 10 songs, or whatever. Okay. And we talked about pop culture and everything. So you just kind of learn how to talk to people and just how the industry works. Towards the end of that internship I received an inquiry from the Walt Disney Company and it was for a news internship, a production assistant internship, at the new station in Houston which was KRTK channel.
Speaker 1:I don't understand that, though. So Walt Disney Company. So they own, because they own ABC, abc and all like you got something that looked like it was from Walt Disney Company.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so when you apply for these things, it's like it's it's under the Walt Disney Company oh, I didn't realize, so you, apply through the Walt Disney.
Speaker 1:Company. You don't apply through ABC or whatever. No, okay.
Speaker 3:You could. You go to the website, you click on it and it takes you to the wall.
Speaker 1:It takes you to the. Oh yeah, so it really is Walt Disney Company.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I applied there and I was like, oh, that'd be cool.
Speaker 3:And then I had gotten a call back Saying like hey, we like to interview you for the production assistant down here, and I was like, uh, obviously yeah so I was at the end of my internship, but what I haven't told everybody yet Is that you were only allowed one internship To do in college for credit, and most of the time when you applied for an internship, it was part of the requirement that you need to get credit for it. So I went to the dean of the college and I was like, please, I have an opportunity to do two internships my junior year, yeah, and I don't even care if you get rid of the credits that I just did for the radio station, because that was a great experience, but I need to be able to do this for news, like I need to do this and you wanted more experience.
Speaker 3:I wanted more, because In the industry of entertainment, it's experience that you need. It doesn't matter how much schooling you have, this is all about experience. So they were so Accommodating to me and they were like, okay, like, do it, this is for your career, do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah shout out to Sam Houston State University eat them up, cats. But yeah, so I was able to do the internship there and they told me that I was like a standout while I was there. So, come to find my internship ends, I go back to school. I'm Six, seven months from graduating and I get a call and they want me Like as a part of the company, like they want to hire me.
Speaker 3:Wow as a reporter for the company and Entertainment reporter, a community fairs reporter reporter. So I would go and cover entertainment things happening in the Houston community and I was the youngest hire that they had had in the company.
Speaker 1:That's so cool and.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's just so cool to leave a mark like that, like to just be known for wanting to work so hard and Loving working and loving what you do, mm-hmm, that it sticks with them. So I learned how to work the nap and work and navigate the TV industry, the, the news industry, live TV, learning what goes into everything. Yeah so I got so many skills from each of those things, and and that led me to getting my first anchor job in front of the TV on a morning show down here where I'd met you and Did three years of that.
Speaker 3:This is probably for a totally other podcast, but it was just the worst job in the world, like the worst.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the schedule, you hated it was the schedule.
Speaker 3:That was the first thing that was awful, and then it was the work environment and just a whole other slew of things. But Anyway, I got through those three years barely, and I was unemployed for a couple of weeks but I was freaking out cause I was like what do I do next? Like I don't want to go into news. I hated news. I would love to go into radio, but that would mean uprooting my life again and taking everybody with me and you're working on this, this and this. There was just a lot to go through and I was like I gotta find something in the meantime while I'm looking for the bigger opportunities. So I was applying to some local places as close to entertainment as I could, and I got a call from the local hospital looking for a marketing coordinator and I was like, sure, why not? Looks like it pays well. I'm gonna go in and talk to the person in charge and see what the role would entail.
Speaker 1:Which was weird.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because also like right when you got that job for marketing, I had also just started my marketing job. Yeah. Which was super weird, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Right, Anyway, I go into the interview and my former boss there she's just like oh, we need somebody to create content for us, we need somebody to work on our website, we need somebody to take pictures for us, make videos, yada, yada, yada. And I was like this is right up my alley.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:This is the perfect thing to do while I'm waiting for something great, like while I keep submitting applications to bigger things that I wanna do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because of everything that you'd learned in the past from all your other jobs, it was kind of like a lot of it had gone up to that point already too, so it's like you're already kind of working your way up a little bit, right.
Speaker 3:And so that job I did for almost a year exactly yeah, almost. But I came across my current job while I was in the hospital marketing coordinator role, and that was a vendor called Serino Video, which is a remote production company that our hospital worked closely with. They really helped us create content very easy, like we were able to get our CEO on camera to give internal updates. They were able to create promotional content for us with videos. I would have weekly meetings with my account manager on that end, and one day he sent two of his colleagues down who were based in the Houston area this is a fully remote company, by the way, but there are two people that are friends that work in the Houston area, so he sent them down to help us do a big recording session with all the providers and stuff for nurses week. I forgot what the specifics were, but both of them came down and I met them and they were great. They were my age, you're close to my age.
Speaker 1:I remember you were so excited, I was so happy, these people- were so nice, I loved them so much I was so happy that day.
Speaker 3:Just the vibe was right. So they come and they're helping, and I'm trying to make conversation in the meantime, trying to figure some things to talk about. And I asked them I'm like, so what's your job? You're down here, but what is it exactly that you do? And they went in depth and, as they're talking, I'm like, oh my God, this seems like a dream job. This is a fully remote role. You're working with people in the same age range as you.
Speaker 3:You're working solely with video and technology and you're writing scripts and you're helping people create content from the comfort of your home, like that's amazing and it pays amazing. So I made a joke and I was like, oh, are you guys hiring? I didn't think anything of it and then they were like, yeah, I think we are. And I said, oh yeah, I was like, okay, so I'm interested. And they're like, okay, well, we're gonna talk to our boss. We like you.
Speaker 1:And didn't they say like right around that point they're like you should just shoot your resume over, just for chits and giggles too. I think that sounds familiar, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I did. And then I think the the following week or a couple weeks after, when I had my weekly meeting with him, with their boss, who is now my boss, yeah, he was like oh, hey, he's like, are you alone? And I was at work at the hospital, so I went and I closed my office door and I was like, yeah, I'm, I'm alone, he goes. Well, we're really interested.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you and you're busy yeah.
Speaker 3:In me, were interested in it to hire me and bring me onto the team. Yeah. So I was poached.
Speaker 1:Yeah, essentially, but it was for the best. They say it wasn't poached. They say it wasn't poached, but, um, because they didn't like seek you out.
Speaker 3:No, everybody was happy for me, my boss, and that's how you know if you have a good boss, if your boss is happier that you're moving up and doing things that you want to do then that's just the biggest green flag which is so cool, that's.
Speaker 1:It's so great that both of our most recent like X bosses are happy for what we're doing now, which is crazy, like yours still talks to you every day. I know Not every day, but she talks to you quite a bit.
Speaker 3:We're actually planning on having lunch next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and mine's my business partner Right. So it's like if you're doing things right and moving forward like you should have people on your side helping you go forward.
Speaker 3:So this whole episode just kind of goes to show that you can do so many different things and life can take you on so many different paths, but you're going to end up being where you need to be. Yeah, eventually.
Speaker 1:Like and we're. We're not at all like Super, super successful and rich and anything like that, but we're making our way. We know that we're we're good Like, especially from where we were. You know, like I was a firefighter making X amount of dollars and that's it.
Speaker 3:Like our life was totally different three years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you were a new, you know a news anchor making money and to see where we are now.
Speaker 3:And there were so many times in between all of these career jumps where just we felt like failures and it's okay, like we're making it sound like everything's just so. Pg keen. Like we had like we had no ups and downs, but there were almost more downs than there were ups during the journey.
Speaker 1:It's hard, honestly, and I think it's good. I mean because you hear everybody talk about like all the good, all the good, all the good, you know, like the people that are successful, like they don't talk a lot about it the bad stuff. But it's honestly because, like at where you're at right now, like where I'm at right now, I don't feel depressed. I don't feel depressed, I don't feel sad. There's nothing upsetting me 99% of the time.
Speaker 3:But there was a point where you were curled up in bed and you were depressed and you were like I don't feel like getting out of bed.
Speaker 1:My first month starting the Hainyman business full time was. There was weekends where I was literally curled up in bed crying. Like no one's called. Why has nobody called, like I handed out a hundred door hangers and nobody called You're.
Speaker 3:you have to make a name for yourself. Working for yourselves was, I would say, the hardest thing in the world, because you have to have the discipline to do it, otherwise you make no money, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because if I wake up and I'm like I don't feel like working well, then no money's made. You're not making money Like it's not, like. You can just slack off at work, you just don't make money.
Speaker 3:Right. If you could give a piece of advice to somebody listening right now On just their journey like becoming successful, or any tips for success, what would those be?
Speaker 1:The biggest thing is, honestly, the one thing that you had taught me and now I've seen with my own eyes over and over, over and over and over is to seriously just be comfortable with the uncomfortable. Like so many people and I'll elaborate a little bit so many people like the firefighting job. They would just be a firefighter for the rest of their lives, live in one home and just make do for the rest of their life.
Speaker 3:And if that's your cup of tea, right.
Speaker 1:But if you want to, be successful and grow beyond that. You have to make a decision to change your life, change everything about it and do something different. You know, if you're not successful in what you're doing now, do something else. I mean, it's pretty simple. You don't have to be the top guy in your company to be successful, you can. You can do something else. I don't care what degree you have or what experience you have or whatever Firefighter to car salesman, like there's no worse thing that I could have done and I'm thankful for it every day. And like for you, I don't like what's your tip, you know like what, what? What's your biggest advice you could give?
Speaker 3:I love to give advice because for so long when I've asked for advice from people who are successful, they gave me so much crap like just believe in yourself. You know what I mean, like that's just if, if you stick to it, you'll, you'll be great. What? No.
Speaker 3:I need steps, I need tips on things to do. Yeah, um. So for the people maybe still in school watching this get the internship, look up internships, get them, get as many as you can. If you got to go to the dean of your school and plead for more credits for that, do it, because the experience is invaluable. It is just you can't do anything better than that. Um, for the people not in school, connections are everything nowadays Networking, networking, networking. If you don't have a LinkedIn page, create one. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Follow people who work for the companies that might interest you. Connect with them, send them a message, pick their brain, let them know. Hey, my name is so and so and I'm very interested in in in the position that you have in your company. Can I get any advice, or can I pick your brain on things that could maybe help me land a similar role? Right.
Speaker 3:And there are going to be people who are so flattered that you're asking them that, that they're going to say, yeah, sure, I'd love to hop on a call or I'd love to do this, this and this. And those are the people who really stand out and do not be easily discouraged. I know that's easier said than done. Yeah, but don't don't give yourself so much hatred and disappointment. Yeah, just it takes time. If you can dream it, you can do it. That's it. That's what I'm going to leave you with.