Nikky is back to keep the boys under control but why are they feeling like it's Christmas?
Nikky is back to keep the boys under control but why are they feeling like it's Christmas?
Yeah. Oh, and that was Let's try to pay for that. Sorry. Pay for Prime. Vanya. Let's pay for Odeon. Can't believe you paid for that. What? Vanya. Why? I'd, I'd go and see it, but I just feel if I'm, if I'm a member at the ODEON I feel funny about giving them any extra money. Yeah, it's, it's, when does your membership run out? It doesn't. It just rolls. It just keeps going. No, you do 12 months. It's a 12 month contract. It's a 12 month sign up. Well. So you need to find out when it expires, because then we can swap it for every man. It's the same cost. But, and you can go and see any, as many, as many films as you want. Yeah. But then the only difference is that it's a bit of a long walk. Well, I'm sure we'll cross that bridge. Well, when we get sponsorship for this, then we can put that towards your taxi fare. Exactly. Yeah, perfect. So what, he's getting a taxi, though, a chauffeur. Yeah, good point. I expect them to bring the Everyman to me. Well, like a A pokemobile or something. You're every woman, mate. That's what you are. I'm every person. That's what I am. Person. Every them day. I'm every them. I am every day. Um, should we start? Should we start? Are you ready? Are you ready out there? Are we recording? I think we are. Okay, looks like it. Hello, hello. Yep, bit recorded. That's it. You know, Shane, off your pencil again. Zoom in, baby. Right. Pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa! Pa! Popcorn Pundits. Yes! The comic version. What are you laughing for? You went buh bye and you went no! Well, it didn't take much really. To be fair, you should have been expecting it happens every week. With all the horror movies I've seen. That's the 19th time that I've done that. Is it? Yeah. Not the 19th time that I did that though. This is your Popcorn Pundit. It's your weekly insight into the silver screen. Brought to you by James, Peter and Nicky. Hi guys, how's everybody? Nicky's back to join us. Yeah, hi Nicky. Yeah, all is forgiven. Did you have a nice holiday? I did, it was lovely. Good, she went up north. So, uh, this is your weekly Popcorn Pundits podcast, reviewing the top ten at the cinema, talking about a film in particular, and then Peter's going to talk about the homework I've given him. Hello Peter Ungar! Hi, so when you said Yes! James, Peter, Nicky. I thought you were changing your name. I know, yeah. I panicked slightly and thought I might have to come up with something comedic in reply. Comedic? I'm glad I didn't have to. So am I. What am I doodling for? I'm not quite sure. Um, so what are we going to be doing today? Hmm? Yeah. Sorry? What are we going to be doing? We are going to be talking about the top ten at this cinema. at this exact date. What's the date, Nikki McMickie? It is, uh, Thursday the 29th. It's a leap year this year. It is. Oh, that's it? It's an extra, we'd be stuck in an extra day, especially for the popcorn pundits. So if today were Tuesday and And actually, the 29th is Thursday in two days time. What would you be doing with your 29th of February? I would be, um, just enjoying the extra day of the year, really. Just sauntering around, probably going to the cinema. Uh huh. That sort of thing. What would you be doing? Well, I am, today I did play in a golf competition. Did you? I can't tell you how I did, I'll let you know next week. Okay, let me know how you did. Next week. So confused. That's exactly right. Right, this week's top ten. Hmm. Do you want to start at number 10? Um, I, I will do. My, my thing cut off number 10, so I've had to, I've had to pen it in at the bottom. But number 10 is The Zone of Interest. Better than summing it in. Thanks James. Um, which I haven't seen. I tried to go and see it this week but I couldn't see it on anywhere. I'd love to see this. I've heard so many amazing things about it. Yeah, me too. So we just need to keep a radar out on it. We will hunt it down. You were going to go and see the film we did go and see in Aylesbury because we couldn't find that when I was going to drive an hour away. And then you shouted at me when I said I'd seen it that morning. Exactly. Uh, number nine is the iron claw. Or just the iron. The iron. Domestic. Domestic violence. Number eight is Wonka. Yes. Back again. And number seven is Argyle. That hasn't got, that hasn't got long, has it? Uh, no. I mean, it's dropping like a stone now. But it's, it is still in the chart after four weeks, which is shocking, because I can't believe that. Anyone wants to see that, but anyway, there we go. Uh, number six is, uh, the National Theatre's live production of Vanya. Which I would see this week. Are you going to give us a small insight into it in a moment? Should we do it now? Is it a film? If Beyonce and Coldplay I'm allowing this because of Andrew Scott, quite frankly. Man can do no wrong, so If he was standing there, playing the banjo I'd be happy to call it a film. Oh, well that's great because that's what he does in it. So that's, that's, that's the review done there just in one sentence. Um, it's, it's absolutely mesmerising. It is. Is it a one man show? It's a one man show and we've seen a trailer of it. We have. And it looks like it's just a diatribe to the audience. Hmm. Um, but he actually plays multiple characters. Oh, does he? And the skill of his acting by having signature moves for different characters means that even when he's not speaking, you know who he's performing as. Oh, I see, because his demeanour changes. Mannerisms, and things that he does with certain props and things. And, um, It is, it is Is it a long show? Um, it's two hours shorter than I thought it was. That's what I'm asking, yeah. Yeah, so, but, so, um, the, the, the running time on my ticket said that it was three and a half hours. Yes. And it's not, it's under two hours long. Okay. It's manageable from a live performance point of view. Yeah, so we've talked a lot over recent weeks about a lot of the films that you've sent me as homework have been stageplay esque Vignettes and this one is the opposite way around that it is a stage play which is on at the cinema Okay, after an hour and a half I was kind of worried where the other hour and a half was gonna go Right, and I had to kind of barter with myself as to whether another hour and a half of Andrew Scott Or maybe a quick kip And a nap won. So basically I decided I was going to take a little snooze and then it ended just as I was about to fall asleep. So it was, um, but yeah, but anyway, but it is Would you recommend people going to, do you still get that sense of theatre when you go to the cinema to see it? Yeah, I mean, so the way the lighting is done, the way the stage is done, so the lighting is really, really simple. Yeah. The stage is very, very open. Yeah. I would say that if people haven't Experience one of these live recordings. Yes. This could be a really really good one to go and see because I mean the hour and a half did fly by. He acts so sublimely. I mean, he's absolutely beautiful and um, I mean, and you know, we've just come off the back of all of our strangers and you know, and we're all kind of a bit in love with him at the moment. His comedic performance is just, it's just beautiful. Beautiful. It's incredible. So, I would say it's not, it's not everybody's cup of tea. Um, however, if you have a theatrical edge to you, I would suggest that this is a great one to go and see. Good. I can. Um, I scored it. Yes. Give me one second. Absolutely. I scored it 8. 5. That's amazing. It's a big, it's a big big score. But it's a very special thing, so I think it deserves a big score, these sort of things. And I think it, I think it adds another level of interest in the cinema as well. I've just seen what was number 5. Okay, number 5. Number 5, in slight juxtaposition to that, give me the contrast of Madame Web. You went to see that as well. I went to see this yesterday. Why? Because he's a pundit and that's his job. Um, I had a really lovely day off yesterday. I thought you'd ruin it. I had a golf lesson, went to the driving range, went to the gym, had a little bit of lunch, and then it was half past four, and I thought, well I'm not going to the cinema until half past, or 7. 50, so what should I do? Oh well, I might as well take one for the team and go and watch Madam Web. Thank you. You're welcome. Yes. You're not welcome. It was horrific. Marks out of ten. Just give it marks out of ten. Oh, marks out of ten. Okay, so, I mean, I think this has been quite, um, quite heavily reviewed everywhere, that's what I called it. Wow. Yes. I don't blame you. Yeah, there we go. Um, I scored it a four. It's basically, so, you start watching it, and I really like Dakota Johnson as an actress. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she's great. And it starts off She hasn't really come on my radar, to be quite honest with you. She hasn't really, yeah, she hasn't found her film yet, and I think there is a film out there for her. But Not this one though. No, this starts and it feels like a Marvel beginning. Yeah. And it just ends there. There's just like no content whatsoever. It's the worst villain ever. It's the worst concept ever. It's basically, this is, this is what should have been a flashback for You know it was Trail, the next movie that's going to happen. This has got three young characters who are clearly going to be spider babes. Which, um, I thought And they're going to have their own independent movie, their own independent television series. This needed to be nothing more than a flashback. The content was rubbish. Basically, she can see a little bit into the future. And she basically just changes the little bit of the future. And that's the entire story. And you thought she would have seen how bad the film was. Oh, you would have done, yeah, or, or, yeah, or, or un cast herself. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So, you've given it a four. I gave it a four. Yep. Just a waste. It's 3. 8 on IMDB. Oh, okay, there you go. You overscored it. Yeah. You overscored it. That doesn't happen very often, does it? Number four. It's Demon Slayer. Demon Slayer. You went to see this this week, didn't you, James? Can you tell us all about it? No, I did not go and see it. But I do quite fancy the idea of it, though. Do you? I do quite fancy Tell me about it. Well, is it an an an an animation? Animination. Do do do do do. Do do do do do do do do do. Great! It's anime. It's anime. I quite fancy. I'm gonna Oh, you love a bit of anime. I'm gonna try to carve a little bit of time over the weekend to watch it, because I haven't seen a good anime at the cinema for quite some time. Okay, um, I will come with you. Hmm, I'll give you a shout. Okay, perfect. Number three is Migration. This is the longest top ten we've ever done. Well Sorry about that, guys. Number two is Wicked Little Letters. Which we reviewed last week. Yeah, and our friend Phil Ball worked on that. Did you know that? Yes. Yes, I saw them yesterday. Absolutely. Thanks Phil. Yeah, well done. Well done you Phil. And you've all done poor things as well. Oh, didn't you? I can't even say that. It is, yep. Um, and Number one. Bob Marley, One Love. One Love at number one. That's quite So it was a, it was a A throw up, a dice up, a roll over, a what is it? A toss off. Yeah, a toss up as to whether I was going to see Bob Marley One Love or Madame Web. Because I knew you didn't want to see Bob Marley either. Did you wish you'd tossed the other way then? Yeah, I always do. You could have seen, you could have seen the wicked little letters again. So, yeah. Anyway. That's your top ten? Well, actually, well, yeah. So, out of the top ten, what are we recommending people to go and see? We're recommending people to go and see Wicked Little Letters. Definitely go and see that. Oh, I see. Migration if you've got a child. Don't see Madame Web. Don't see Argyle. See Wonka if you've got, well, if you've got a brain. And see The Iron Claw. Don't bother. See it live. See it at home. Oh, I can't think, I think they should do. I think they should do. And obviously, if you see Zone of Interest, let us know what it's like. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay, good. Happy days. So that is our top 10 out the way purr purr purr. Indeed. Part 2. Nikki, how are we doing? Yeah, you're doing, doing well. Um, the local Everyman will have the zone of interest on Thursday today, pretty much. Thursday today? Thursday today. I was gonna say Thursday and then I realised we're still in Thursday. Oh okay, I'll go and see it earlier on. That'd be a good idea. Go and see it a minute ago. So, what did we go and see this week? This week we had the fortunate opportunity to watch The Holdovers, which was weirdly having one showing. It was like a little island. Well, the launch of this film is actually something to discuss. I think so. So, this is a Christmas movie. I'm so glad you said that. So, I saw it much closer to Christmas than you did. So, I saw it weeks and weeks ago. Because I was off from work and I found a showing. At the Everyman in Marlow for, at 10. 30 in the morning, on a Thursday or Friday morning or something. And he's like, I'd love a stab at that. And I just thought, oh, do you know what, I want to go and see it. And I can't find it, and you'll believe me, it's not as bad as going and having to travel to Aylesbury. So I thought, do you know what, I'm, I'm gonna go, and I went to see it, and I was just like, Oh, I want to see this with James. Yeah. This is, honestly, it is the, I think this is the most, uh, Anticipative I've been for you to see a film. Because, um, it is Yeah, go on So, so, so really, really quickly before, before we go into how we feel about it and the colors and the, the beautiful scenery and, and everything else. So let's, let's do a quick, uh, let's do a quick roundup of the story. So, uh, the holdovers, it is a based in, it's a, it's a film based in 1970. Yep. Uh, it is, it's centered around a school teacher called Paul, is that ham? Yeah, and it's a private school, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, it's a prep school, it is, uh, I'm assuming it's quite a high level prep school by the money that's mentioned all the way through the film. So it's based in the 1970s, and it really feels like it's based in the 1970s. It's very, very clever the way that it envelopes you in that world immediately, I think. Particularly with the opening credits, the The opening planet seemed to take forever because back, back in the day, you had, you had a list of every single actor, every single, uh, you know, Mike Holden, so on and so forth, even before the film started, and you kind of got a, you kind of got a feel for that at the beginning of the movie. Yeah. And, and the, the, all the kind of, um, production banners that you get up at the beginning That's right. Are all done Mi max in the 1970s font and, and the texture of the film. Yes. Is that of a 1970s film? Very much so. So it, it feels like you are watching an old movie a hundred percent in the way that it's been filmed. It that, and that, to me, that level of detail for the theater really sets up the whole film for the viewer. A hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, it, it, it, it already feels like a Christmas classic. It does. I, you know, I'm watching it twice in a, in, in a few weeks. Yeah. I did kind of settle down and I was a bit kinda like, oh, this is, this is good. I can't wait for this to begin. So, as, as we've established Paul, Paul is a school teacher in a prep school, a a expensive prep school, and he's not liked by anybody at all. And, and he knows that the, the students know that. The teachers know that. And he's, and he's angry. He is. Um. He's opinionated, he's, he's a snob when it comes to literature, he has no time for students who aren't taking it overly seriously, and he's, and he's venomous with his teaching, quite frankly. And, and the amount of times that even the other teachers would turn around and go, oh come on. Give the, give the kids a bit of a break sometimes. He said he's a real purist when it comes to hundred percent when it comes to the morals of the school. Yes. So basically he takes the the school's original moral code That's right. And believes that it's his job. That's right. He's tattoo, tattoo it on his chest to educate these strites. And as, as he's mentioned many times before, what he's smoking it and basically he just thinks they're all stupid morons. Yes. And uh, and they're basically, they're only there because of their wealth. But he does, he does give accolades to the ones that. are talented and do well. He's not afraid to score one or two students well if they are achieving. So he's not, so he's not, so he's not evil. He, you're right, he's just very opinionated and very old school in his, even from a 1970s point of view. So he's, he's He's given the task of looking after the children that can't travel home for Christmas. That's right, hence the holdovers. Um, looking after them over Christmas in the school. And the reason he's given that job is basically because he didn't give the minor grade that one of the rich students needed to get into Princeton. Even after they bought the library. Yeah. So the headmaster of the school who was one of his former students. Yes. He's very cross with him. Very. And um, basically he makes him stay, he gives an opportunity to every bit of a dig at him, doesn't he really? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So, so, so you've got, you've got a really, you've got a classic, uh, story set up, you know, and the, and the snow is even classic. This, the music's classic. It's got very John, it's got very John what's, what's the name? The name of the, the, that quintessential 1970s, early eighties. that would be on every single, um, film such as Caddyshack and so on and so forth. It really envelops that whole 1970s feel, it is so clever. Did you know that it was filmed in digital? Um, so I did, because I was quite, I was, because of the texture of the film, I was quite interested to see actually how it was produced. And yeah, it was, it was, But they've grained it afterwards to give that real, but authentically, It's filtered, so yeah, yeah, it's almost, It's almost worth not saying that because it does feel like it was recorded on the celluloid, yeah, but. Are you thinking John Williams? Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. I was waiting for somebody to step in and go, come on. See, we wouldn't have got that last week. No, no, we would not. See, we've got a classic story of a teacher that has, he's not particularly liked, but he's got that comic element. He's funny to look at because he's so angry. You've got a group of students that Have been kind of disowned by their parents because they're off skiing or they're doing different bits and bobs And they're left in this prep school over the Christmas period, a little bit like a Hogwarts Yeah, and they're all a little bit, um, they're all really uncomfortable about the fact that they're being left there They've all been left there for different reasons And they're all uncomfortable for different reasons Some of them are angry at their parents, some of them are angry at the world Uh, some of them are left there as a punishment. Other ones are just left there because their parents are so rich that they just live on the other side of the world. Yeah. So they can't be taken away, so to speak. Yeah. So, it's, it's the, it's difficult to feel sorry for them because they are so dripped in, uh, entitlement. And they're vile. And they're vile. They are vile. Yeah, I mean even, yeah, even the main character is vile. Yes. So you've got, so you've got Paul the teacher. You also have, um, Angus, who is the oldest child in the group, and he happens to be left behind, even after the other children happen to escape halfway through the Christmas term, which we won't explain how. No, but it is a lovely shift in the movie, isn't it? And a totally unexpected shift. I didn't expect it at all. Because at one point, you've got half a dozen children in the holdovers, and all of a sudden there's one child. And the focus is drawn Um, Paul the teacher, Angus the um, the, the, the student, and played beautifully, uh, Mary, the, the, the, the, the, the cook. Yeah. And, her, the way that she smokes is mesmerizing. So she is the cook of the school. That's correct. And she, um, her son went to the school. Mm. Um, and then unfortunately died, uh, in combat. That's right, in Vietnam. In Vietnam. Mm. And, um, and. We've already spoken about quite a lot of this film and we haven't ruined anything by what we're talking about. No. But it does kind of explain what an onion of a movie this is. Very much so. There are so many layers to this film and Her character is wonderful because she's a very, very heartfelt human being. It feels like an Olivia Colman sort of character almost. Yeah, she's, yeah, but she's in struggle. I mean, she's in pain. She also doesn't take these fools gladly. I mean, she calls them knobheads and idiots, exactly as they are. Absolutely. And, um, and yeah, and you know, she's not, she's not, She doesn't pull any punches. She basically says it as it is. That's right. So you end up with this wonderful triptych of characters who are all so massively different. Yeah. And all end up having this, this is the Christmas movie bit of is. They all end up having Moments of joy and Oh, yeah, and not joy. And, yeah, and, you know, and, yeah, difficultness and, you know, disagreement and, yeah. And, and what's really fascinating about this, it's a movie that initially gives you a very simple plot that we're looking at, you know, two adults and a child stuck in a school over the Christmas period. None of them particularly want to be there. And then, as you've mentioned before, the onion starts to get peeled layer by layer by layer on each individual person. within that group. And they're, they're, they're, they're, they're small connections with people in town ever so often. There's small connections with their past, and there's small connections with what could happen in the future as well. And I think it's really beautiful the way that it is, it's directed in a certain way that you think you're in a safe space, and it just tilts it slightly. Not to make you feel unsafe, but to see things from a slightly different angle. Yeah, yeah, I guess so. It's just, to me, it was just a story that just mushroomed and bloomed and bloomed and, you know, and so I, I felt there were similarities between this and Scent of a Woman. It was, it was that kind of, it was that kind of, um, scholastic character and, uh, and a person in a position of power. Yep. And although they're educating the student. Yes. There's vulnerability that's just Well, yeah, and there's bi directional education. Like, you know, they're teaching each other, you know, different things about different things. And it's not the same film as that, whatsoever. However, it just kind of, that was one of the notes that I kind of got from it. It was a very similar type of structure at the beginning. Um, and yeah, that was my paradise. Nice. Do you want to hear the taglines? I think the tagline direction I love a good tagline, because I find a tagline that is either quite poignant to the movie, Or, it's what the director wanted it to be, but didn't quite see. The working title. Exactly. But I feel that these two taglines sum this movie up beautifully. To the point where we don't even need to pundit it. Well, they should have done it at the beginning. Yeah. Discomfort and joy. Yeah. Works perfectly as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. But the one that really hit home for me, and it really And once you see the movie, it will make a lot more sense. They're all alone in this together. Yeah. What do you think? Yeah, absolutely. I think it works really, really, really well. It's very, very clever. Um, so should we talk about the cast? Sure. Hmm. So, poor Gambit, poor Giamatti. Giamatti. You always get that wrong. Peter, I was going to let him try. Poor Giamatti. I mean, obviously, he excels in billions, and he excels in almost every single, apart from Spider Man maybe, which we don't talk about. Um, he excels in almost every single movie that he sets foot in, I think. Well, especially Sideways. Well, when you mentioned Sideways, I was going to leave Sideways to the end, but So, I didn't, I felt that although this had the same director as Sideways, and had the same lead actor as Sideways And although it had a some, you could tell it was penned by the same person, the same bit was directed by the same person. But I really do feel that Sideways is dated so badly, and I do feel that this film won't. Well yeah, it's got a, it's got a, it's got a latch on to Christmas which is going to make it timeless. Yeah, absolutely. Perfect timing. Um, so, um, the only thing that, the only similarity I felt between Sideways and this was the tempo of it. Yes. It had that beautiful tumbleweed down the street pace to it. And it was um But I think that was done on purpose to give you a 1970s vibe. Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. So for instance, the first, the first five minutes was probably the longest intro that I, I've ever seen for a movie for a long, long time.'cause traditionally, even if it's a slow movie, did start off with a fast pace or start with, with fast editing, just to capture the, the consumer's eyes. Well, so it, it starts in the snowy front gardens of the school. Yeah. Just somebody's, and then it can somebody. It pans to Paul Giamatti's window, and you're left looking at his window, probably for 20 or 30 seconds before the film starts. Absolutely. But you, you, you, you, the first five minutes is literally just somebody just shoveling some snow. Yep, absolutely. And that, and that to me has got a really dated, but in a positive way, not in a negative way. Oh, it's brilliant, it's brilliant. So, what about the rest of the cast? You've got, you've got Dominic, who I've never seen before, who plays, uh, Angus Tully. Tully! Mr. Tully! I was trying to find him. Mmm, so was I. And I think this is his Cinematic dating. I think it is. He did, he did some American TV thing years ago. Yeah. He's mainly acted in plays before. So I thought he was, I initially thought he was from Stranger Things. He's got that look about him. He's got that, well, younger boy that's turned into an older boy look about him. He, that's, that's what people do. I know that the, the only, the only issue I've got this film is he does look about 40 and many and he's supposed to be held back two years, isn't he? But it's, um, yeah, and I think that worked really initially. It was supposed to be a, I think they initially cast a, a freshman. to play that role. And then Angus Tully came along and he went actually, or Dominic Scenic, yeah, and uh, and apparently Paul Ghiometti uh, into, uh, took, cast him and everything else, but I like him, let's go for it. And I think the chemistry worked really well. Sorry, Nikki. So he did take credit for getting him cast as Angus, claiming that he insisted on Alexander Payne giving him an audition after he was quite reluctant due to the lack of acting experience. Um, and he had only acted on stage in plays, um, at the Deerfield Academy in Massachusetts, uh, before acting in this movie. Uh, the reason is the casting people were unsatisfied with the traditional casting auditions and so the filmmakers decided to reach out to drama departments in the area where, um, the location was shot and obviously that's how they discovered him. Nice. I thought his inexperience showed up a little bit. I disagree. I thought, I thought, I thought this is the making of a really good young actor coming up the ranks. Yeah, I'm not saying he's not really great in the future, but I, I felt he felt a bit green in places. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? Because I felt the opposite. I felt that he had, I think, that's the reason why I initially thought he came from the whole sort of Stranger Things back catalogue. I thought, he's, he's, he's practised a bit now. He's, he's coming on a bit. Okay, so shall we just agree to say that I'm right this time? Let's not. Anyway. And then obviously we've got, uh, Lydia Crane. And I'm not even going to try to pro Her surname's called Rudolph. It is, yeah. Is it? Yes. Well, I wrote Randolph. Oh, no, it is Randolph. Yeah, it's Divine Joy Randolph. Fine. Yeah. But I prefer Rudolph because it's a Christmas hate gets caught. Rudolph from that and I know her from Murder only murders in the building, which I've only seen a, a couple of episodes, but, so I saw the Idol. She was in The Idol and she Oh, was she, she played a, she played a horrible agent in the i in the Idol. And it was, it was a terrible series and it was vile, but um, but in this, she came pretty close to stealing the show, I thought. Yeah. She smashed it. Yeah. Uh, in real life, she's actually a non-smoker. Uh, but she didn't want to smoke fake cigarettes because she thought it was too unrealistic. So she actually opted to smoke real cigarettes for the on screen role, while being sensitive to not becoming addicted to nicotine. So she decided to go for American Spirit, as that was the brand she disliked the most and could quit quite easily after. Wow. That's, I mean, that's commitment. Yeah, that's method baby. That's lung cancer, addiction, all sorts of things. But, but Isn't it strange how she, that that was actually part of her character? I mean, that was one of the things, first things I mentioned about her. Yeah. That and the, I love the fact they never drank whiskey out of a cup. No. It was always out of a mug. I just thought Always outta a mug. Yeah. Always out of a mug. And, uh, poor gi Matt's eye. That needs to be addressed, okay? Which one? Exactly, exactly. Portrait of Matty's Eye is actually probably the fourth member of the cast, I think. Because, it's mesmerising. Because he's got a lazy eye, apparently it was his idea. It was, yeah, it started out as a prank. Yes. So he can just do that? No, I think it's a, um, Contact lens. I think it's a contact lens, yeah. But I'm convinced. The reason why the question, there's a question that comes up in the film where they're trying to figure out which eye is dodgy And I'm convinced, and then of course he keeps, he doesn't say anything, right, right until, we don't see the spot, well, until the end. However, I'm convinced that the fault, I'm convinced that the, um, Contact lens is swapped every so often, so it keeps the viewer guessing which eye Because I'm convinced that sort of, you know, that's why I think it just kept it, the intrigue more interesting. Right, I will look at that next time I watch it. Yeah, No pun intended there, Peter. Well done. The Lazy Eye! There is a scene as well where Angus calls home. Yes. And apparently Dominic, the actor who plays Angus, kept flubbing the take. Because he didn't know how to dial and had to be shown how to do it. Um, it occurred to, it hadn't actually occurred to anyone that he'd ever used a rotary phone before. That's the emoji. Oh, that is so good. Do you know what? That is a thing. That is, I've seen that. I've seen, I've seen millennials go up to a, a And just tap them. Honestly, I'll just, I'll just talk at it. Oh, that's made my day. But also made me feel really, really old. That's brilliant. Thank you very, very much. Right. So there you have it. So you see, so it's, yeah, you're right. I think it's going to be, it's going to be added, it's going to be added to my personal Christmas list of movies to watch in December. It's definitely, and I'm going to put this in the same category of the likes of As Elf? No, Trains, Planes and Automobiles. Oh, okay. It's got that John Candy sort of feel to it. Not, not, not, not in the level of humour, but in the way it's shot. Well yeah, because that, planes, trains and automobiles were shot in the very early 80s. That's right, yeah. So that was kind of the tail end of this. That's right. Okay, I don't, I don't. Just purely the feel. Yeah. Not the content. Yeah. Not the content. What mark are you giving it? 8. 5. Ooh. It is, it 8. 9. Yeah, I'm not surprised. Yeah. I knew, I knew you would love this. Yeah, I love this. And I kind of hoped it would have a 9 on the front for you. But yeah, 8. 5 for me. Not yet. Not yet. 8. 7 total. 8. 7. Um, and it has had. 199 award nominations What?! And 120 wins Good But no Chainsaw Awards No Chainsaw Awards Good, good, good And British Cinema decided to not release this I'm not being funny but I know, sort yourselves out We're doing our best here for you guys How are you supposed to Raise the bar when it comes to filmmaking, if you're only just gonna keep churning out Marvel movies. I mean, but doesn't the top ten feel like we're just waiting for June 2 to come out? Yeah, I'm afraid so. I mean, it's literally, everything's just sinking down and the shit is rising. Just waiting. Just waiting. And they've confirmed the date of Beetlejuice 2. Have they? I believe so. I believe it's 9th of September or something. Oh! Around about the 9th of September. Wow, that's shit. That's worse, mate. But I will confirm that. Right, so that's our top ten and we've reviewed the holdovers. So on a weekly basis I like to give Peter a film to watch. Hopefully he hasn't seen it before. It's from a back catalogue of my favourite movies. I've got a whole Santa sack of movies in my back catalogue that I've seen. And I haven't seen these movies just once and I haven't just heard about these movies. The movies that I recommend to Peter I've seen many, many times over and over again. So I thought you were just going through the list of films that Olivia Colman has starred in. Not yet. No, no, no, we've got a different, we're moving to a different angle this week. Okay. And, um, and I'm always amazed, when I mention movies that I adore to people, I'm always amazed and outstanded that they haven't seen them. Yeah. So, I'm sort of joyed when I turn around to you and go, have you seen this movie? And you go, no. And I'm sort of like, I'm sort of, bemused, but also joyful because you're going to experience it a first time. Peter, what homework did I give you this week? Who's starring in it and give us a small synopsis of the movie before you get emotional. Right. Okay. So I, I was set the homework. Yes. Of watching Tyrannosaur. Um, and I've underlined that with the subheading of heavy, heavy shit. Yes. Was really heavy, heavy shit. Um, so it's, um, directed by Paddy Considine. Yes, who's completely underrated as a director, I think. I mean, he's a very, very good director. I mean, there's no doubt about that. And it's basically starring Peter Mullen, who's a guy called Joseph, and Olivia Colman as Hannah. Yes. And, um, and I've forgotten to write down the actor's name that plays Hannah's husband. Yes. Um, he was Um, yeah. Could you do that for us, please, Nikki? What's Hannah's husband called? Dan? I can't remember. Terry? Paul? Gaurav? No, it's It'll come up in the top three. It will, yeah. It'll be in the top three builds. Anyway, so, this is basically a story of Joseph. Yes. Who is an aggressive, abusive, um, angry man. Yes, very. Who has a lot of Pent up anger, and it's basically the story of his life developing and unraveling. Um, and it feels very, very on the edge. Yeah. It's the opening scene with the dog. It's, yeah, it's, it's, yeah. So he, he's in, so it's based in England. Yeah. So, and it's, um, I think, I think it's fairly relevant to the time it was made, I think as well. Yeah. So it's, um. So I'm struggling a bit to describe it because it's not actually that much. No. It's not a huge period of time that we're talking about in this movie. I mean it's, it's not as um It's more acting based than story based I think. Yeah, I mean it is So, I didn't really enjoy watching this film. No, nobody does. It is, it's so uncomfortable to watch because basically you're talking, you're looking at two people's lives pretty much unraveling and, and so basically Olivia Colman plays, um, a religious charity shop worker who, um, Joseph stumbles across and they end up forging a friendship and um, and that friendship causes issues for both of them, um, even though it's not a, it's not a, uh, it's not a sexual trip. No, not at all. You never get that impression. Do you? It's a friendship. Yes. Um, but, other people around them don't, don't like the fact that it's going on, and they are basically Everyone's hated by everybody, and it's, and it's that kind of It's a, it's a very, very, it's set in, you know, very, very poor conditions. The neighbours are, are, are vile. There's a, there's a couple with a child and a, you know, a, a, a pit bull terrier. And there's a kind of a storyline which kind of travels along that route. Um, Olivia Colman's character and her husband have an absolutely, I mean, one of the most disgusting portrayals of a relationship I've ever seen. I know, it's very uncomfortable isn't it to watch? It's, yeah, it's, it's um, it's a real, it's a real battle to watch it, and um And he's almost too good as an abusive husband Um, I mean, yeah, I mean, his opening scene is walking into the house I know Drunk Yeah And basically urinating over Olivia Colman who's asleep on the sofa It's just so believable, it's literally like you're looking through the window of a life of just really bitterly No, that's a really good way of putting it Unhappy people, and um, yeah, it's um, I don't want you to recommend any more films like this It's, it's, or they need to come with a warning Yes It's brutal. Yeah, it is, isn't it? And brutal in a completely different way than I've, I've subjected you to brutality in the past. Whereas in the past it would be, it's almost been science fiction related. It's been fantasy before. Exactly. Because this is, this is, This is true. This is a massive Real. Shot of reality in your ass. I agree. It is, it is, yeah, just like you've walked, you're walking through a city centre and you've turned a corner. And then you witness something that you wish you'd never witnessed. Yeah, 100%. And you can't do anything about it. No. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're the voyeur and you're watching it and you, and, you know, at the end of the day, there's nothing you can do about it in the slightest. Peter Mullen, I mean, my god, I mean, the acting in this is absolutely, it's incredible. And, I mean, again, Olivia Colman, again, just like, absolutely mesmerising. But I just don't know that it needed to be made. I just don't know that I needed to see that level of upset and, and anger and violence and because, you know, even when it's not violent, you feel that violence is just, it's just there. It's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's an uncomfortable watch. It is a watch that. I think it's a watch that reminds us that some bad things happen in this world. And it's not really miles away. Why did you enjoy watching this? Or did you not enjoy watching this? No, I, I, I've watched it three times so far. Okay. And whenever, whenever I watch it, I feel sort of empty at the end. I feel, uh, it's very, it's very sad. And it's very, and it's, You, you, you feel like it sucks a little bit of humanity out, out, out of you a little bit because you feel that, that you're outta control. You can't control these things and these things are happening all the time. Yeah. I, I found it difficult'cause you, you mentioned the fact that you got upset once when you watched it, and I, and I found it difficult to get upset about it. Mm-Hmm. Because I didn't feel that any of the characters deserved my upset. I, and, and I think after the second or third watch you. That when you're anticipating or when you know when something's gonna happen, that's when the upsetness comes in because you can't control it. Yeah. Yeah, it's an interesting watch. Um, however, I had to stream, I had to pay for this on Prime. I do apologise. No, it's fine, I don't mind paying for something, but I would maybe suggest to the viewers and listeners that maybe they wait for it to come out just on a standard stream because It's a, it's a lot to pay for that. Yes. It's a brutal, brutal watch. Yeah, but I mean, if you are in a really good mood and you want to be taken out of it, that might be the way forward for it, really. Yeah, or if you're preparing for a fight or something, it's um, Yeah, it's um, it's, it's something that I didn't know that I needed to watch. Yeah. I don't necessarily know that I needed to watch it. I don't, you see, I, I like to think that every piece of art that we watch on the silver screen or at home Has a different job to do. And I think some job, some, some films and some stories take you away to to, to fantasy land and some, some, some stories remind you of what's going on in reality. And I think this is one of those films. And I think to me it's, it is like, it is like different taste in music. You know, you, I'm able to go from, you know, from, from pop to, you know, hardcore punk. And the hardcore punk is just as important as the, as the uplifting pop really. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, there you go. What mark are you going to give it? I'm going to give this a flat 7. Okay. 7. 5 on IMDB. So, I mean, the reason being is that all of the component parts are stunning. I mean, like, the, the, the direction is beautiful. The cinematography is beautiful. The acting is absolute. I mean, you believe they are the characters. I mean, like, you know, you, you believe that you're watching real life. But I just didn't enjoy it because it was just such a hard watch. Okay. Was the husband called James by any chance? You could keep asking me names all night and I wouldn't be able to tell you. It is who I think it is. He's played, um, it's Eddie Marsan who was in the TV program The Thief, His Wife and the Canoe. He's in a lot of BBC programmes, and actually he also plays Amy Winehouse's dad. That's him, yes. And he was also the editor of the newspaper in The Gentleman. Oh, in The Gentleman, yeah, that's where I was trying to get him from, yeah, absolutely. Yes, it's him. And he is The vilest human being, if you could ever, he's so good, but honestly, I wanted to punch the television, and I can't remember the last time I've been so angry about someone. And I think, and I think what makes it even worse, he's a tiny little man. Yes. He's a tiny, tiny little man. There's nothing to him at all, but he's just evil and vicious and nasty. But the worst bit isn't when he's evil and vicious. No, it's when he's When he's nice. When he's nice. Yes. That's when I wanted to punch the television. I know. I agree with you. He is Uh, 5 foot 8 and a half. Oh, he's not that short. He's a giant. He's a giant, compared to me. So, the um, Tyrannosaurus actually had 24 wins, including a BAFTA and 25 nominations. What was the BAFTA for? Uh, the BAFTA was Outstanding Debut by a British Writer, Director or Producer. Oh, fair enough. Say classy stuff, I'll give you. Classy stuff. It's all, I mean it's all, it's all good stuff I'll give you, whether you like it or not. I like it wasn't 121 awards that the Holdovers got, was it? Or was it? I don't know, it wasn't. Would you like some homework? Oh, not really. Can I have a week off? It's half term. Okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, yet again I'm gonna give you two pieces of homework that one could be watched by you and the other one could be watched as, as a, as a reference for our listeners as well. Have you seen the Jennifer Lawrence movie? Jennifer Lawrence, quite commercial for me. You were saying Lopez then. Okay. Actually Jennifer Lopez was in an amazing film called The Cell, which we'll come back, we'll visit that later, another time. The only decent movie she's ever been in. Um, have you seen Mother? No. Oh, you're in for joy. I've seen Mother. You're in for a joyride. That was an inhalation of breath for me. Yes. Don't want to give away anything. Yes. Mother is, a couple's relationship is tested when, uh, uninvited guests arrive at their home, disrupting their tranquil existence. Now you've got Jennifer Lawrence, you've got Ed Harris, who we all loved Ed Harris. It's got Michel Pfeiffer in it. It's got a good cast. And yeah, exactly, I was just waiting to pronounce his name. Yeah, so he's got a really good cast, okay. Now, you have to, you can't go to the toilet, okay. You have to watch this movie from start to finish, okay. And you have to really concentrate on this movie. Okay. And do you know what? It's not brutal, it's not, it's, it's, it's, I mean it's not a family movie, but not really money my movies are, apart from myself with the shoes on. But, it is, uh, it's fascinating. It's, it's by the same director as Black Swan, and also The Whale. That's a level we're looking at. It's going to be joyful, joyful. You had the longest wee break in the holdovers ever. You were gone for so long. I did consume a lot of liquid before. I was worried, I thought you kind of left. It all came out being, no, no, no, no, no. Um, the second film is a 2019 film. Okay, so we've gone from a Jennifer Lawrence movie to This is a Spanish movie. Okay. I love a good subtitle movie, okay? This is for, it's a 2019 movie. Have you seen the movie, The Platform? No. Okay, so. It's a, it's a sci fi horror. Okay, cool. Okay. However, yet again, very similar to, to, to Mother. I mean, it's not similar to Mother at all, but, but what I'm trying to explain to you is, there's more to it than meets the eye. Okay. Not as much as Mother, as Mother though, to be fair. Okay. But it is, I would consider Platform to be a Friday night movie. Okay. Okay. Mother hasn't got a day. Okay. That's all I've got to say to you. Mother hasn't got a day. Mother has to be watched. Okay, from start to finish without a break. Without a break. Now, considering I think I missed the big plot twist in All of Us Strangers. This has got me worried that I'm going to just totally, these are going to go over my head and I'm not going to get one whatsoever. There is a What you need to do is keep away from the internet, don't look at any reviews, don't look at any feedback on the movie. Oh, I never do. I tell you the reason why, because a lot of things were said about this movie afterwards. A lot of things were said about this movie afterwards. Quite a lot of it was pretty much spotted in reference to references and so on and so forth. And there was a lot of anger about this movie as well, a very controversial movie as well. Uh, it's upset a lot of people, but it's also, um, started lots of conversations as well. Okay. Happy? Yes, the platform is available on Netflix. Um, did you know there's a platform 2? Yeah, I've kept away from it. And Mother is available on Amazon Prime and, uh, Google and Apple TV. Okay. There's got to be a train joke about platform 2, surely. Um, yeah, there must be. There's no train today. Um, also, just a quick Yes. Um, it's actually the 6th of September, Beetlejuice 2 is Oh! Is it? Okay, 6th September, okay. Any news on Deadpool? Um, it's not alive. Okay, July isn't it? Is that the Wolverine one? Let's see. So what are we going to go and see this week? I'll tell you exactly what we're going to go and see. Zone of interest? No, June 2, Friday night. Friday, yes we are, fantastic. Friday night, so next week we are reviewing June 2. Which we're very, very excited about. I'm probably going to see it three times while we Before we reveal it? Yeah, because I've got, I've got, I've got, you've got, are you seeing it on Friday night? Yeah. So you've got you, Doug, and a number of other people. Sophie was unable to get a ticket for Friday night because it was completely packed. Yeah, Pauline couldn't either. Yeah, so I'm down. And then Leo Myles pulled out. Oh, did he? Yeah, so Pauline Hennel has a ticket. Ah, right, okay, well in that case I will probably watch it again on Sunday with my wife. Okay. Uh, Deadpool vs Wolverine in the US is out on the 26th of July. Um, not quite sure when. Oh, okay, so we're going to be talking after Autumn. Yeah, exactly. Fair enough. Nice. Awesome. I really enjoyed that one. That was good fun, wasn't it? Yes, it was indeed. Right, so there's your Popcorn Pundits. That is your review of the top ten. That's Peter's, that's Peter and I's review of the Holdovers and also Peter's homework. Yeah, there was lots of movies this week. Yeah, there was lots of movies. And one not movie. If you have seen any movies that we haven't spoken about this week, please get in contact with us via Instagram or YouTube. Or if you disagree with any of our reviews, get in contact with us as well. Or why not send us a voice note and we can play it in next week's episode. That's a great idea, yes. Or let us know if you've listened to the podcast and you're enjoying it. Or not enjoying it. If there's any particular bits, like you're not knowing who Charlie is in Charlie's Angels. or Thanks, Glen. Whether you trim your nose hair or not. Exactly. Brilliant. So, there you have it. Would you like to pa pa pa pa par us out? Look, I'm about to do it, so don't jump. Okay. Pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa paw Popcorn Pundits Podcast, week? 18. 19? I missed a week. Well, I forgot to put my shoes on. I didn't want to say anything. Okay? Okay. Okay?