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Star Wars: Safespace
Clone Wars Micro-Series + The Acolyte: The Jedi Agenda
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This week, we're on the road and visiting Daddy Louie's Cantina! Join us as we revisit the groundbreaking Clone Wars 2D micro-series through a "canonical" fan edit*, get into the new episode of the Acolyte, and make some very interesting predictions.
Important note: Because we are traveling, the audio quality is diminished.
In other news, this is our last episode of the season, but we will return with new episodes in 2 weeks!
*Links to the Fan Edits
Fan Edit Part 1
Fan Edit Part 2
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Star Wars Clone Wars Micro Series
Speaker 1All right , this week , on Star Wars Hux , we are going 21 years back , talking about the Clone Wars 2D micro series and the latest episode of the Acolyte , and we're on the road . All right , stay tuned , Stick around . We're going to do the thing while I find our music as soon as he finds the button find the button , here we go . We're gonna stick a lot of stuff in the post . There's a lot of things . Welcome to Star Wars , such your own . Oh my God , all right , I think I had it on loop .
Speaker 2That's all right .
Speaker 1All right , well , anyway , welcome to Star Wars , your non-toxic , low-sodium Star Wars podcast . Hello and your Star Wars podcast , hello . And your Star Wars safe place . We are the Circle of Nerds and this week we are going to be talking about the very , very cool fan edit of the Clone Wars micro series . But before we do that , let's meet . The Circle of Nerds To my left you're right , it is the sensational Sherry Woo , hello everyone . The Circle of Nerds To my left you're right , it is the sensational Sherry Woo , hello everyone . And from the Outer Rim Territories of Bostween , daddy Louie .
Speaker 2Hello children . Who is hosting us in his own home ? That's right . Welcome to Boston .
Speaker 1We are Now . We are in the Outer .
Speaker 2Rim Territory .
Speaker 1Yeah , we're all in Bostween today for this week . We're going to be going to Fan Expo tomorrow Well , today , when you listen to this , on Saturday or whenever . So , yeah , it's going to be a good time . And , hailing from parts unknown , it is T to the only . Hello everybody , tony and Gary , I got nothing . This guy , this guy right here , late , late , late shower , he's a guest , yeah .
Speaker 2He's a late , late shower .
Speaker 1He has a death sentence on 12 systems and he's not afraid to talk about it . You want to buy some death sticks ? All right , we'll be careful .
Speaker 1No , you're not going to you have a death sentence on 12 systems . Okay , I'll be careful , you ain't going to buy the death sticks 12 systems . Okay , I'll be careful , you can get a bite of death sticks . No , that's not the death sticks guy . You'll be dead , thank you . Okay , I'll be careful , you'll be dead , all right , thank you . So anyway , oh , my God , and I'm Tommy D Okay , god , and I'm Tommy D Okay . So we just watched the Clone Wars 2D micro-series . The fan edit , the original one , debuted on Cartoon Network back in 2003 . 21 years ago , it still holds up .
Speaker 2I thought it was great it still holds up .
Speaker 1You were Craigers , weren't still holds up . You were Kregers , weren't you ? You were knocked up . You were with Child . It still holds up . They did cut out a lot . There was , of course , mace Windu's awesome scene . We didn't get to see that . There was the Snow Bunny Padme episode where she goes to Ilum to get the lightsaber crystals With Yoda , with Yoda , yeah , and they just drew the hell out of . Padme in that .
Speaker 3But none of that's canon .
Speaker 1None of it's canon , yeah . So with this edit it was designed to fit more into canon , Although you know what those might be in there , because we've only watched the first two parts . There are still two more parts to that . My glasses were right up against the sandpaper .
Speaker 2Yeah , but at the end of what we just watched it had kind of made that transition to almost like post-Clone .
Speaker 1Wars . Well , no , but when we watch the fourth one , then that will be like that's taking us right to Revenge of the Sith .
Speaker 2Yeah , because there's oh we want spoilers , yeah , spoilers .
Speaker 1We're not done with this show . Yeah , spoiler , we're not done with this show . Yeah , spoiler , we're not done with this show . So spoiler alert on that . But yeah , do stick around because we are going to be Talking about episode 3 , season 1 , episode 3 of the Acolyte .
Speaker 3So stay tuned for that . We've got some thoughts and opinions on that .
Speaker 1So thoughts and opinions On this micro series . Who was the Sherry ? You've never seen it before . I've never seen it . Thoughts and opinions on this micro series Sherry you've never seen it before . I've never seen it . No , tony has never seen it before . Gary has seen it a gazillion times . I've seen it a few times . You've seen it a few times .
Speaker 2I've seen it a few times , I've gone back and watched specific scenes , especially the Mace Windu one , the Mace Windu one is dope . I's kind of sad that we didn't get to see it .
Speaker 1It might be . Go watch it . If you haven't seen it , just do . Mace Windu the most awesome scene in Star Wars ever Thoughts who wants to go ? I think we'll just do round robin today .
Speaker 3Yeah , it's fine , sherry , you've never seen it . Ladies first , I've never seen it .
Speaker 1Knowing where we are in the Star Wars timeline now , seeing what we've seen , it's just showing where Anakin's going to go .
Speaker 3His continued growth , the love of Padme , all this stuff and his anger , his anger especially in this one To defeat Asajj .
Speaker 1Asajj , ventress , asajj .
Speaker 3And Dooku . I like Dooku . I feel bad for him , yeah , so I like following his story .
Speaker 1It wasn't a big one in this , but as we were watching it , gary , you were talking about how Grievous they do Grievous dirty . Yeah , both Asajj and Grievous have done dirty . I feel like that's almost like a continuous theme that we see across Star Wars Grievous' backstory . You know , he was completely fucked by Dooku so he could become Grievous , so he could turn him into Grievous and use him as this Jedi hunting tool and it's just like but the Jedi are doing the same thing .
Speaker 3Yeah , but both sides are doing the exact same thing .
Speaker 1Right , like everybody is like , like the leaders of both factions are doing with the exact same thing . Right , like everybody is like , like the leaders of both factions are using all of these , these poor individuals , as pawns in their own game yeah , and it's , it's , it's ugly , it's an ugly situation . So any , what about you ? You've never seen this before .
Speaker 3You're a Star Wars fan okay , you've seen a lot of Star .
Speaker 1Wars and then so we think so I Enjoyed so far .
Speaker 3Forcing the rest of us Actual clone , Right , okay we'll get there in time .
Speaker 1I really did enjoy that . That was a lot of fun .
Reflecting on Star Wars Clone Wars
Speaker 3You mentioned about the growth of Anakin and I'm not seeing a lot of growth . I've got to be honest , I'm not seeing a lot of growth in him . Well , I don't mean the good side .
Speaker 1I mean , he literally just completely disobeyed Obi-Wan , okay , flew off planet , flew into a trap , true , and came back and said okay , I'm sorry about that , oh , but I won , so it's okay . Meanwhile , you've got the entire squadron of troopers killed in horrific ways .
Speaker 3I mean Obi-Wan sent them .
Speaker 1I mean Obi-Wan got those poor guys killed Well his squadron in space got jumped beforehand , and then the squadron in space got jumped beforehand , and then I think it's true for that . They got sauced . I mean , they got sauced , it was so , jover for them .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 3Obi-Wan said it's a fight that should never have happened , because you shouldn't have done it . So I think he was just doing it to try to .
Speaker 1Obi-Wwan's trying to protect him . He's just , yeah , he's trying to protect him . So it is um , it's like you've seen things like that . You see the and from broth , multiple episodes now , the arrogance of young jedi and , yeah , the problems that's going to lead to over time the arrogance of young Jedi and the problems that that's going to lead to over time .
Speaker 3Yeah , you know , despite that , it's a lot of inclusion from where we've been , where we're going , and so , yeah , okay .
Speaker 1Daddy Louie Cause you were . There was a couple of times as we were watching it . Yeah , oh , and , by the way , for all of our listeners , if you haven't seen this , we did this live so you can check it out on our Facebook page or our YouTube channel . We'll have the live on there so you can watch it along with us and you can see our reactions . You reacted a few times and it was pretty cool because it was like almost like you were seeing it again for the first time .
Speaker 2Obviously , some stuff you're going to forget about , because I think that once it stopped being recognized as canon and we got the Clone Wars series that we're going to watch kind of pushed in front of it , some of the stuff you push out of your mind . I think Some of the stuff push out of your mind I think so some of the stuff .
Speaker 2But as I was watching it I was remembering , like certain it's like I . I remembered the plot points , right , because we had talked about um , for example , like when , when asajj like does all the , all the nasty stuff to all the clones and stuff in the forest . I just didn't remember how badass she's portrayed , because when I think Asajj now I think of the Clone Wars , asajj . I don't think of this , asajj .
Speaker 2So seeing this was kind of like a breath of fresh air of the characters , and it kind of made me sad that this couldn't have been made canon in some way along with that , because there's some good stuff here . Really good decisions and I know I remember how this micro series ends , so I'm excited to see other people's reaction to how it ties right in . It ties right in because , for those that might not know , when this show dropped , it was to get people excited about .
Speaker 3Revenge of the Sith . Like it was timed perfectly , along with the release of revenge , right .
Speaker 2so the way that this ends goes right into Revenge of the Sith , and there's some things that we see in Revenge of the Sith that you're like , oh so that's how it happened Because of this micro series . While I was watching that , I was thinking of those things too and that kind of made me a little bummed out because some of that's not canon anymore .
Speaker 1I know , yeah , and that's like , like you said , the ending . It's so cool the way that they did it . You could literally just stitch that episode , that final episode of the micro series , and the beginning of Revenge of the Sith together and it's within moments of each other , literally within moments of each other . It's very , very cool . Very very cool .
Speaker 2This is going somewhere .
Speaker 1What are your thoughts ? I know you've got a lot of them . The micro series is one of those things where it'll just go down as one of my favorite pastimes to sit there and watch man .
Speaker 3Because you were a kid when it came out .
Speaker 1I was so . Yeah , I think my kid came out a year ago . But it's kind of sucks as well because , like I said , there are so many great characters Mutalisk 10 . Oh yeah , first and last time that we ever see them .
Speaker 2That should have been our bad batch . That's the series that we deserve .
Speaker 1You know what I mean . I won't talk about Fordo , but Fordo favorite same character . We don't see him ever again . We don't see Dirge ever again . He climbs all the way into the Galactic Empire . Never see him again .
Speaker 3Only in the comics .
Speaker 1And we've kind of already talked about General Grievous kind of being done dirty from this iteration of him to when you guys see it in the future , the one that we do get , and same thing with Asad Ventress in the micro series over to the new one at the new cohort . So this is just one of those series where it's like I'm here to watch the Mutalist 10 . I ain't gonna lie to you , I'm here to watch the Mutalist 10 . I'm here to watch certain characters knock off Shaggy . Oh man Padawan .
Speaker 2Shaggy .
Speaker 1I'm here to watch the foot grabs . I would put . Padawan Shaggy on a t-shirt along with . Thoughts and Prayers , but also with Lunchroom Trooper from the Mandalorian . They're at the same . Can I throw one more person ? Two more ? That got dealt dirty .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1The dudes that died in .
Speaker 2Oh is he Be big .
Speaker 1The Citadel yellow trooper oh , oh , yes . And then Gore , the captain that had to fight Gore , oh , oh .
Speaker 3Oh , oh , oh . I don't think I've seen that . Oh you'll see it , you'll see it , you'll be like , yeah , you should do that .
Speaker 2You should be like honorable death wall .
Speaker 1Or like worst deaths in this series , you know what ? Or maybe Wall of remembrance ?
Speaker 2Wall of remembrance For those that are , you know , that are not remembered in the way that they should be the Wall of .
Speaker 1Remembrance , the undercover when everyone's like oh yeah the top ten best death scenes in Star Wars . No we're talking about the top ten worst death scenes in Star Wars .
Speaker 2But you know what ?
Speaker 1It's not even death scenes , it's the ones that really like you feel it in your heart . You're like , ooh , it really like you feel it in your heart , like maybe it's not even like a devastating scene , but it's like we didn't know lunch trooper , but I felt bad for lunch troopers because it's like I remember a tray in hand .
Speaker 1I just got off my ship trying to eat time , my jawa , my jawa to go meal . My jawa juice and banana . He came off of like a fucking 14-hour shift . He was just sitting Standing on the wall , probably Right ready to take off his helmet and fucking munch out , and then maybe go rack out for a couple of hours . Lots of prayers .
Speaker 3I think that yeah the wall of remembrance .
Speaker 1I think we need to do that , the wall of remembrance of the people . As we're watching the people that go out and it's just like heartfelt , like oh man I feel bad . Those are teachers .
Speaker 3But like you know , like I have one that is all decrypted . Yeah , so it would be all their little faces with their the names we make up for them , right underneath it and just say Wall of Remembrance . I like that and then the back would say Star Wars . I like that .
Speaker 1On the back , it's just Jovert Trooper .
Speaker 2Jovert .
Speaker 1Trooper . Oh my god , yeah , like it's going to be just a montage of , just like that's Joe Burr , he's Joe .
Speaker 3Burr .
Speaker 1You already know . Because , there's a lot Like .
Speaker 3I mean it's just , there's a lot , but those ones you guys point out , yeah , like there's no T-shirt .
Speaker 1Yeah , there's , something .
Speaker 3You're just like and do it like .
Speaker 1you know how like when , when you see families put lost ones on t-shirts make it look kind of like that iron-on real . Rip , rest in power or whatever . A little Sarah McLachlan in the background .
Speaker 3I was singing it in my head or some ?
Speaker 1what is it ? Some voice demand ? What was the song ? End of the Road .
Speaker 3Here we go To the end , the song , end of the Road . So we got to the end of the road . Boyz II Men , boyz II Men .
Speaker 1I remember it . Help the families of those we lost , lunch Trooper . It just cuts to all the different scenes of them . It just keeps staying there . It just cuts to all the different scenes of them . It just keeps staying there , it's like a little montage you see the clone and it drags into the air .
Speaker 3I haven't , I haven't Between our hiatus . You fucking make that in remembrance of all the people you've just watched , like they do at award ceremonies for the Oscars just make a quick slideshow .
Speaker 2Here's who we lost this season on Star Wars .
Speaker 1Sucks with our names and then it's just like honorable mentions and you can put other ones too .
Speaker 3But if we come up with some more mentions and you can put other ones too , I mean but , if we come up with some more like , if you guys think of other ones , we can do a whole remembrance show .
Speaker 1I like it 10-15 minutes just with the .
Speaker 3Sarah McLaughlin song , or whatever .
Speaker 1Yeah , we need to write that Everyone's just in , everyone's just in , like black suits and like armor .
Speaker 2We got black arm bands .
Speaker 1And like armor and whatever , and we're just like today we celebrate the passing of not the coolest trooper Right .
Speaker 3Yeah , no , no , no , damn , you died in some horrible ways , and it must be no good Like we've lost we've lost people , obviously , but there's been a , we can put everybody . We can put Qui-Gon , we can put I don't know . It's not what we've watched , it's what we're watching . I think we should keep it , like those background players , like those , like the dude that gets shot , like the dude that gets shot , or you make them the honorable mentions .
Speaker 1But yeah , like the whole thing is all about these second-hand characters .
Speaker 2And then the writer's like oh yeah , honorable mentions oh yeah , I can't cry about it , you can just have like a fast scroll and find everybody's name like little , teeny , tiny letters .
Speaker 1Because there's always gonna be those guys , anyone that has like the Wilhelm scream attached to them , they always go out . Genocians in episode two .
Speaker 3That would you know I'm watching these guys and I'm like oh , write it down , or like yeah , we should , we should , or like I'm so too .
Speaker 1Ain't no one care about the two guards that got exploded and jettisoned off the ramp ?
Speaker 3Like Joel and .
Speaker 1Steve . And then there's the , you know , Joel and Steve . Well , there's a tragedy of you know , TK421 . Right .
Speaker 2What happened to TK-421 ?
Speaker 1We haven't gotten there yet but there is canon lore about TK-421 . It was written like before and then the outcome Okay , like what happened to TK-421 and why he wasn't at his post .
Speaker 3So I don't want to spoil it , but he'll be on our wall .
Speaker 1Okay , he's going on a t-shirt . Speaking of t-shirts , let's pimp , pimp now . We just talked about it . Go to our website , circleofnerdscom , and buy some of our cool t-shirts . We don't have these t-shirts up there yet . But we will , if you're interested , let us know when we go on hiatus in between our seasons . We'll go ahead and do that . Actually , this is the last episode of our season one . We're going to go on hiatus . I don't know for how long we have two weeks .
Speaker 1We're going to be taking a two-week hiatus . You guys were just here part of our planning meeting for that .
Speaker 2That was our production meeting , part of our planning meeting for that .
Speaker 3That was our production meeting Done .
Speaker 1Gavel Done . So I want to talk a little bit about you know we touched on it a little bit , but you know using people , especially the Jedi , because you know , and this is going to tie into the acolyte when we talk about that , because you know , and this is going to tie into the acolyte when we watch , when we talk about that . But the way that the jedi portray themselves as heroes , protectors , guardians of the galaxy , basically and they're literally out here , you know absconding with children and taking , yeah , taking babies yeah , and they're really really using people for their agenda .
Speaker 1So what do we think ? Do we think that the Jedi are broken , lost , or are they doing the right thing , but they're kind of doing it the wrong way for the right reasons ? What do we think ?
The Moral Dilemmas of the Jedi
Speaker 1Garish , that depends on you guys , don't help me out with this the time period when the Acolyte actually happens .
Speaker 2We're not talking about the Acolyte .
Speaker 1But right now , right now where we're at right now we're in Clone Wars era , so at this point the Jedi are working with the Senate to fight the Separatists . So are the Jedi ? Do you think that the Jedi are doing some morally great things for the greater good , or are they just trying to perpetuate their own genesis ? I think that's what happens when you have a thing called the Chosen One . It just kind of falls into place the longest span in Jedi history . What we've been told so far is that there's always been the Chosen One that will balance the force . Blah , blah , blah , blah , blah , blah . This is the first time that they've actually had an opportunity to be like oh , maybe this is the dude . And honestly , in any organization that's like , oh man , the rumored one will come and like he'll take us to the promised land and bring Browns to the fore .
Speaker 2Like Harry Potter Boom yeah , harry .
Speaker 1Potter's supposed to save everybody .
Speaker 3Harry Potter .
Speaker 1We don't know if this dude's the guy . He just has a cool scar . You know what I mean . Anyone can have a cool scar . I call off my bike . No one thinks I'm shit . Exactly so it's like when you kind of have those built-in lore aspects of like there is somebody that's going to come , now it's just man who fits the bill . Do you fit the bill ? No ? Next , do you fit the bill Pot ? Next , do you get the bill ? Potentially you get the midichlorians . Sure , maybe you know , you don't have a dad .
Speaker 1You don't have a dad .
Speaker 2You know like how do we weed out ?
Speaker 1like who the dude is . So I think now in the clone wars , I don't think they're doing morally great things , because now we're also getting into war . They're not generals , but they are , though now they're not supposed to be , they're supposed to be keepers of the peace but now they are straight up warriors and they're also leading people as well .
Speaker 1So it's a whole new change of pace for them and a whole new mindset they have to adopt , because , at the end of the day , victory is written by the winners and both sides are going to commit some really tough stuff . Yeah , they already have . Exactly so when it comes to .
Speaker 2Anakin , he's grooved Sherry . What ?
Speaker 1do you think about that oh ?
Speaker 3yeah , of course he's being grooved . I mean Clickin and Palpatine . He's in there . I mean he in the proper teams , he's in there . I mean he is in there it's between him and the Jedi Council .
Speaker 1What can I say on this ? Oh dude , he's getting cuffed from both sides . He is . One side's telling him that he is the greatest ever , like you , are the chosen one , but then the same people that tell him he's the chosen one dude , you ain't it , you ain't ready .
Speaker 3You know what I ?
Speaker 1mean . So I kind of see where his decline comes from . Because for his entire life he's been told you are the chosen one that'll bring balance to the force From day one , but then yeah but then they're also like dude , we can't make you a knight , you suck .
Speaker 1But dude , we can't make you a knight , you suck , but we let you lead a space battle . Oh shit , you won Right , but you still suck . As far as Jedi stand in your concern , you bring up an interesting point too . It's like telling him that by telling him that on day one , what kind of ?
Speaker 2pressure does that put on you In addition to the ego right ?
Speaker 1but it's like we , you know . I watched the the matrix recently and there's a scene where neo is , you know , on the deck of the nebuchadnezzar with cypher , you know , and drinking the , you know the the engine cleaner , or whatever , and it's like you know . Do you know why you're here ? Did Orpheus tell you ? And he was like yeah , and Cypher's like man . What a mind job . What do you say to that ? Someone just tells you you're the savior of humanity . Two days ago , you were sitting in a shitty apartment in the Matrix selling people some fucked up hacked codes and shit , and now you're the savior of humanity .
Speaker 1Yeah , like same thing .
Speaker 2How do you process that ? How do you process ?
Speaker 1that Exactly . It's like what does that do to you , you know , and what kind of expectations do you put on yourself from that ? But you see , the difference between the Matrix and Star Wars is that the machines were in Neo's head being like you need to come work with us .
Speaker 3Man Right Neo was pushed to the good the whole time , the whole time .
Speaker 2He was fast-tracked , yeah .
Speaker 1And Palpatine is just like oh , it's such a shame they don't see your talent and you're just so much . Oh , they finally gave you a command . They finally saw it Right in the beginning where he's like oh , we should give him command . No , we shouldn't , oh , but he's good . Oh , good conversation .
Speaker 3Good talk , yeah , good talk . Nice , it's decided then .
Speaker 2Get out of it . And then immediately after , and then he's like you won't be a knight . And then , five minutes later , it's like you are a knight thing after another .
Speaker 1That's what you know what ? That's what happened when you murder somebody on a planet that you felt like going to go fight , even though you didn't have to fight that fight . They were like hmm , how do you kill that dude ? And you lost to dookie . Yeah , we'll night . You , bro , you've been through some . Yeah . Yeah , we'll give it to you .
Speaker 3This is .
Speaker 1This is the classic is the desperate time called the a desperate time I understand what the Jedi are trying to do . They want Anakin not just to be a great soldier , but to be a proper .
Speaker 3Jedi , what the universe needs him to be too .
Speaker 1They need to , For lack of a better phrasing . They need to beat out that arrogance out of him . They need to beat out that arrogance on him . They need to temper down his arrogance and humble him a little bit so that he becomes what they need him to become , but they don't know that he's been played on the other side too . He doesn't even know Kind of . You know what I mean .
Speaker 3He doesn't even really know . He's playing on the other side . Basically it's like a kid , right so he doesn't even know , kind of . Yeah , I mean like he doesn't even really know , he just basically it's like it's like a kid between two divorced parents .
Speaker 1You know , one parent is really cool , while the other parent is like trying to like maintain discipline , like like , yeah , I'm the bad guy for making you go to school and making you eat your vegetables and your dad over here is letting you watch porn and eat all the candy you want and do whatever you want .
Speaker 1This is why it's so old . And that's Palpatine . Palpatine is that guy . I'm going to let you eat candy and go to bed whenever you want and I'm praising you . You're so good . Why do they tell you that You're perfect ? And then he's like I'm like where did you come from ?
Speaker 1And then . But Palpatine is like deliberately saying the opposite of everything that the Jedi say , because he knows and that helps to drive that wedge a little bit more and it's just getting just worse and worse . But the Jedi know what they're doing . The Jedi are 100% using Anakin as a tool .
Speaker 3But they all are .
Speaker 1They all are yeah .
Speaker 3Even Yoda , when Yoda was like well he fucked up . But okay , we're just going to make him a knight . When he said that I was like no .
Speaker 2Because I think I don't blame Yoda for anything , because you love Yoda .
Speaker 3Well , because of .
Speaker 2he always just trusts the force , Like he you know what I mean .
Speaker 3Like .
Speaker 2Mace and Obi-Wan . They're more holistic , I guess , whereas Yoda is very like the force will take care of everything , and so when he's faced with a decision , he puts it back on the force . If the force is saying that this boy is the chosen one , then who am I to mess with the force ?
Speaker 1It's like a hardcore Christian who believes in God .
Speaker 2Which is what I was going to say , when you asked the question of where are we at Jedi-wise , I think the foreshadowing of this being a very strong religious organization that is , in their minds , doing the right thing . But to anybody who's not in that organization , the people that ain't drinking the tea , right , the people that ain't drinking the tea are seeing , they're not going to heaven . They're seeing the flaws of that structure .
Speaker 1Right , right oh yes , yes , yes , yes right , like he's just like making things happen . He's doing . He shakes his hand like behind him . He's like yes , yes , yes now you're drinking my cool right yes but like , like you'd say , like with yoda . Yoda is so like , like sherry , what you would . You know what people say , like , like someone that's new to christianity're full , they're newly saved . So Yoda is that person that just follows the Force blindly . But Qui-Gon warned against it . Be mindful of the living Force . And Yoda is not .
Speaker 3And I don't understand that when Yoda is like 500 and something years old , or , no , 800 .
Speaker 2But that's why he exiles himself because he realizes wow . I have been blind this entire time because I put my faith in the force , and the force failed me . So he goes into exile . Who else did that ?
Speaker 1Yeah , we'll discuss that in like two years , once we get to that point .
Speaker 3But this is tied into the Acolyte . Yeah , let's talk about the Acolyte . Okay , great transition , great transition .
Speaker 1Love it . There we go . So Acolyte season one , episode three . We get some surprises . Wait , what happened ?
Speaker 3I love you guys , Anyway . Okay , so we see some surprises Wait what happened ?
Speaker 1I love you Anyway .
The Power and Origins of Witches
Speaker 1So we see some surprises , we see Nightsisters Maybe . I mean , they're witches , we know that they're witches . They're a coven of witches . It doesn't say Nightsisters . They don't say Nightsisters , they don't have bows . They're not energy bows .
Speaker 3It's close enough , but it's still like a hundred years prior though . And it could be a sect of , because they said they had to leave to go here and get a new cup . So where did they ?
Speaker 1leave from ? Did they leave from Dathomir ? Did they leave from somewhere else ? I mean hopefully we'll find out , or I mean the galaxy is huge somewhere else . I mean hopefully we'll find out , or I mean the galaxy is huge , it could be any type of witch .
Speaker 2What type of witch might be irrelevant .
Speaker 1We don't know yet . Well , we just know that it's there . They use the thread . They call the thread instead of the force . So it's like you know , it was interesting to see their take on it . But then then what the mother had said about this is all about who says , who decides who gets to use the power . Right . And then the Jedi show up and they're like , yeah , you're not allowed to train kids .
Speaker 3But that's what I'm saying . So that's bullshit on the Jedi side . Who are you to tell me in my coven how I'm going to treat my kids ?
Speaker 1Like on my planet .
Speaker 2you came to my house , which isn't part of the Republic , which is what you're defending Right .
Speaker 3So they did fuck up there with the twins . They did fuck up there .
Speaker 1So like revisiting the conversation we had earlier about how like , ooh , how many people have been in the Clone Wars Back then during the High Republic . Fuck those guys , they had it coming . I mean , that was straight up . In my opinion , it seemed like manipulation .
Speaker 2That was the biggest .
Speaker 1I can do it , but you fucking can't do it .
Speaker 3I can come and take your children .
Speaker 1The Republic prohibits the teaching of the fourth children unless it's these guys right here , that's kind of fascism , isn't it ?
Speaker 3Yes , it shouldn't matter how they're being taught , because apparently they're powerful as fuck .
Speaker 1I think they're more powerful than apparently they're powerful as fuck Right when they got Tobin , when she snapped on Tobin like , oh , you'll get your Padawan back , she didn't even blink . She didn't .
Speaker 2She didn't raise her hand . I don't even know if she was looking at him .
Speaker 1She was like you'll get your Padawan back when you get the fuck out .
Speaker 3So , instead of trying to combine all the forces and just learn from each other .
Speaker 1Yeah , the Jedi are too dogmatic . We're the only game in town .
Speaker 3Because they're using dark side and light . To be honest , witches are using both , and it seems like they're able to do it flawlessly .
Speaker 1Now what do we think about a couple things that jumped out .
Speaker 3So we've got the twins immaculately conceived by another woman , but made by her Right , so made by the mother but then carried by the Zabrakian mother .
Speaker 1I'm still not , but let's Right , but let's suspend the disbelief on that Right . So like what do you guys think ? How did she create the twins we know ?
Speaker 2Anakin was virgin birth . They're still men of war .
Speaker 1It's simple they're the chosen one , obviously .
Speaker 3They're obviously the chosen one . How do we think they were made ?
Speaker 1Like you had said , that , they use a blend of light side , dark side , Well , I think she used magic .
Speaker 3They are witches , they are considered straight up witches , so they used magic to conceive . I don't see the problem in that , especially it , since it's you know . This is really into us . We don't know .
Speaker 1Yeah , we have no idea . I also think , tony , doing what you're about . What's up ? What's up , tony ? I'm just going to say I mean , we don't really . We've only seen these , this particular group of witches on screen for all to the surface . Yeah , I Know that the mother that created them presents female . We don't know that she technically is . I mean maybe she just straight up . The other girl gave her a set of twins and there's no father , because there's two mothers .
Speaker 2No , because she's straight .
Speaker 1She said you create , create or I created I'm you , my area , yeah , but I understand what he's saying , you know you're right you're right , but anyway , what it's like and this is this is what's interesting , this is what , what can be used to combat all of these arguments going on . We're not going to talk too much about real life . Um , there was something like in the last episode of the accolade . We see um a jedi . It's the first time we see an overweight jedi , but , considering all the different species throughout the galaxy , is he overweight ? No , or is that just how his species ?
Speaker 1right develops , you know , but people are , you know , people in online .
Speaker 3They're like oh my god , the .
Speaker 1Jedi are about , you know . You know physical fitness and blah blah , blah .
Speaker 3I've never seen one . What does their PT test look like ? Right ?
Speaker 2What do you have to do to qualify for a Jedi PT test ? Like 20 push-ups , like what's the run ?
Speaker 1And to be fair too . That's the thing too . The Force . We've seen it . We just saw it in the Micro Series . Asajj literally pushed off a cement pillar . A cement pillar lived , mind you , of being crushed to another staircase .
Speaker 2She pushed , she put a force bubble around it , force bubble .
Speaker 1Pushed that shit off of her like it was nothing . You know you have the speed . So I mean between the strength and the speed . What PT test is going to stop a ?
Speaker 3Jedi . But you're right , but look at .
Speaker 1Tobin yeah .
Speaker 3It's just not a fair . He sat in a circle , a bubble or whatever .
Speaker 1A force bubble , impenetrable force bubble .
Speaker 2He could not , didn't talk , didn't open his eyes , literally meditated .
Speaker 1And Tony , like you said , who knows the mother is female passing , but you know who knows what her plume looks like ? Magic , Magic .
Speaker 3We haven't seen possible explanations Genetically whatever Everything's up for debate , the twins came to be . They're super powerful . Yeah , one is dark . You think that they're like a ?
Speaker 1nice , even split between dark and light . I do so . No , oh , no , no , no , no , no , no , something . I hesitate for him because one of the few things that I didn't like about the sequel or sequel trilogy , which I don't want to hear yet , but to me this is what I would have interpreted as a dyad .
Speaker 3Okay .
Speaker 1And so you know , counterbalance between the two of them . Now to my mind , may seems to be considerably more powerful , but I think that's because her essential was actually completed , whereas Oshin's was not . But prior to that point in time they were pretty much the exact polar opposites of one another , but equal in power . Equal in power . Seemingly you can see it in the beginning of the episode that they grabbed that butterfly and had way more control over it , but Osha was struggling to kind of hold it in place .
Speaker 2Because Osha didn't want to do it .
Speaker 1No , I think Osha was holding it gently .
Speaker 2Right and May was kind of grabbing it . Yeah , she was grabbing it .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , yeah , she was hurting it and I think Osha couldn't do that , she chose not . Yeah , she was hurting it and I think , I think she couldn't do that Right . She chose not to . She wanted to hold it gently , and then , and then , mae , grabbed the fucking shit out of her , the Jedi so appeal .
Speaker 1Because they're on the surface . They seem to be more about peace and technology . She saw the technology . I mean she obviously has an aptitude for that . When she gets out of her room she has an aptitude but that appeals to her . I think she just got sick of sharing the stage with her sister . Who's crazy , may's a little left-handed monkey wrench A little . I mean you know Mae's a little . She's , you know A little , a left-handed monkey wrench right A little . I mean Bad seed Pulling wings off butterflies . I don't know man , there's bad seeds where it's like , yeah , he just you know , they're just not the right together . You know like he gets kids like one kid is always like , oh , that's the one that's always getting in trouble and going off and sneaking out hanging out with her friends . This motherfucker burnt down a door and locked her sister in the other side of that room .
Speaker 3She's straight up sick . I'm not going to kill you .
Speaker 2She's like well , how are you going to ?
Speaker 1keep me here , I'll kill you . So yeah , it's like , oh man . So maybe she needs a little like Nightsister therapy or something . There has to be something for her Now . So I want to ask you guys this who do as the episode ends ? You know we see Osha being taken away by Saul and you know we see all of the sisters are dead . Who ?
Speaker 2did that ?
Speaker 1Who do we think did that ? Was it a product of all the explosions going on ? Was it ? Was it may ? Was it the jedi ? Was it this mysterious sith that we're seeing ? You know who do ?
Speaker 3you , who do we think it ?
Speaker 1was .
The Mystery of the Witch Massacre
Speaker 1You think may did all of it . You think may , like I think she took . Do you think may got ? We had just . We discussed this earlier too briefly . But do you think may like I think she took . Do you think may got ? We had just , we discussed this earlier too briefly . But do you think may got the full power in the ascension ? Or did she only get her half of it ? Because the mother grabbed the , the ascension ball , and gave it to may and grabbed another ascension force ball , thread ball , whatever and was about to give it to Osha and she didn't get it , obviously . But do we think that May got more than her fair share , making her more powerful to wipe out everyone ? Or did somebody else have ? Because all those witches were powerful as fuck ?
Speaker 3So to be taken out .
Speaker 1So what do we think did it ?
Speaker 3I think it's kind of a combination .
Speaker 1The Jedi did something Because told this whole thing before he dies is he thought we were doing the right thing , right .
Speaker 3So you had to have done something Now .
Speaker 1I know it's fucked up .
Speaker 3But that could have been just taking her . Well , because taking her is really kind of what caused all this .
Speaker 2Had they not planned to take her , then May wouldn't have freaked out . It could be that , but my prediction is that it was this mysterious Sith in the shadows who then takes May as Osha goes off , and I think that I don't know if we can say a straight up prediction . I think it's going to end up being that it's Plagueis is the masked Sith and he finds out that these Nightsisters have created life through manipulating midichlorians , and so he create in the same way that Sidious plants . Anakin right , plagueis doesn't create the life the sisters do , but he takes her with the intent to figure out what they did because , timeline wise , we're 100 years , I years .
Speaker 2I could see this being Plagueis , who's learning through training May she's , you know , trying to figure out so she could use . Maybe he's trying to use her to become . I don't think that she's more powerful than Osha because she struggled against Indara . So if she can't kill Indara , but she could kill a whole coven of witches , that just doesn't those witches , like you said ? Want power of many . They were all together . They could have messed something up . They were dead . They were dead dead . They were eradicated . They weren't on fire . There wasn't rubble around them .
Speaker 1We didn't see their wounds , though . We just saw them dead . So I don't think those four Jedi could have taken them out .
Speaker 3I don't think the Jedi did .
Speaker 1I don't think the four of them could have taken them out . Sol , I don't think , was that strong at that point . He's a bad motherfucker now .
Speaker 3I just don't think they would have the reason to do it . They were going to take May anyway , and her mother was going to let her go , oh shit .
Speaker 2So her mother was going to let her go .
Speaker 1That was .
Speaker 2Oh , that's true , because she says let me convert with the council .
Speaker 1Your wish will be taken into consideration .
Speaker 3You think maybe they had a fight amongst themselves .
Speaker 2I think , all of them would have been like that . I think it's a Maybe the mom knocked him out .
Speaker 1I think it's a combination of factors . You've got dissension amongst themselves , because the mother wants to let them go , and the others don't . You've got Maybe starting a fire , and who knows how .
Speaker 3It blew up that device . Whatever that device was , that was like a jet . Whatever they were doing , I maintain to this point that I don't think they're entirely innocent , whatever that device was .
Speaker 1That was like a jet . They were like on a volcano . I maintain to this point that I don't think they're entirely innocent . Sure , between those three things all happening at the same time , the sisters got overwhelmed , but they were in one spot . They were in that one chamber .
Speaker 2They were all just in a circle . Basically , they were right there .
Speaker 1But the mother was over in the one chamber . They were all just in a circle . Basically , they were right there .
Speaker 2But the mother was over and they were fine .
Speaker 1In Legends there was the force , the thought bomb . Who did that ? Was that Bane ? No , I don't think it was Bane , it was somebody else . But there was the force so strongly created . This thought bomb Kills everything , everybody , including the person that does it . At first I think , well , maybe May in her anger and she obviously isn't trained to use her powers maybe she inadvertently let off this fucking emotion bomb this thought bomb ?
Speaker 1It wouldn't be an emotion bomb , so much as it would be that black shit that took over Torment Right . If she was mad enough and they tried to stop her from killing everyone . What's to say that she could have used all of that raw power to literally destroy their minds in that thermal coven .
Speaker 2I mean , I guess it depends how strong she is .
Speaker 1The Jedi could have found that . And they're like , oh , someone's killing everybody , maybe the Jedi killed have found that . And they were like , oh , someone's killing everybody , maybe the Jedi killed the mother because she , in defense , could have said , oh , maybe the Jedi did it . Right , the mother was in a different room when that happened . The 20 of the dudes had walked off .
Speaker 1The soul was gone , which leaves Indara , the Wookiee , and Torben , and of all three of them , this came to a misunderstanding , where Torben was the one that killed the mom . That's where he's like . I thought we were healthy . The .
Speaker 2Wookiee , I felt like was probably back at the ship , so it had to have been Indara who did all of that , because I don't think Sol would do it .
Speaker 3I don't want to Sol's running around trying to find the kids .
Speaker 1So if you take him out of the equation , you have Torben , who we already know did something so heinous that he regrets it , and Indara . Torben may have killed the mama . He may have killed mama Maybe , but I don't know . I don't think he's . He was bad enough to kill mama . I think him and Dara making together might have been I would even then maybe a dar was like hey , you like , don't kill her like we're trying to like yes , but they also thought they also all think that they were responsible for May's death .
Speaker 1So he could have just been beating himself up over being party to the death of a child . He could have been fucked up about that .
Speaker 1Also , too , party to the death of the whole coven because , as everything's exploding , the Jedi's view , if we go with the whole , like oh they're coming in , the mom's trying to come out , they hit each other before they meet the rest of the coven thing , everything else Then he could feel so inclined to fuck . Did we do something during the fight that can start at the chain of the explosion ? You know who ? You know who I was thinking could , could have been powerful enough to wipe everybody out the other mom .
Speaker 1The other is a Bracken , because she was already kind of feeling some kind of way about things , so she potentially could have waited here yeah did we shoot this you ?
Speaker 2know I don't remember one of the yeah right , you have to go back and look at all of them .
Speaker 1There's more than one of them .
Speaker 2I don't know that she was important enough , unless she's tied to it .
Speaker 1I do kind of like the idea that Louie's talking with Darth Plagueis the Fresh , making his mixtape so that he can sell it a hundred years later to Anakin .
Speaker 2That makes so much sense . The last thing that we saw with Osha and May they were on opposite sides and they were yelling to each other and she said you know ? Osha said where's mama ?
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2And May said mom's dead . And then Osha said what did you do ? And May said what did you do do ? And Mei said what did you do ? So it almost tells me that neither one really knows what the fuck's going on which takes me to the Plagueis thing , where Plagueis is doing his puppet string stuff . The way that Sidious does puppet string stuff as soon as he caught wind that hey , there's some witch in the northern hemisphere over there of the galaxy knows how to manipulate the Khorians If he comes if he comes , maybe they got into a fight and the mom he's trying to take and the mom's stopping .
Speaker 2You know , trying to protect the girls , but everything happens so fast . Everything happens so fast If you think about it , if the threat protect the girls , but everything happened so fast .
Speaker 1If you think about it , if the threat and the force are the same thing , doing that ceremony is like a big fuck-ass beacon to everyone that's force-sensitive . That's probably why the Jedi felt it in the force and came running like what the hell's happening .
Speaker 2They were watching that .
Speaker 1And then she looked at the forehead and she was like that wasn't there this morning right , so they were , they were , they were on them before the ascension ceremony to happen , right so they had to have felt the twins in the force , probably when they were born and they've been searching for them , but maybe that's why they didn't watch them on their business in the house , yeah , of course .
Speaker 3No , they were using the force , maybe inside , maybe that's what that generator was Something that keeps the force shit in there .
Speaker 2You know what I mean .
Speaker 3And so every time they went outside the wall , because even the one mom was like we're in danger . Right Every time they go out .
Speaker 1So , that generator must have been .
Speaker 2They looked at that generator . The camera panned to that . We saw that a couple
The History and Future of Jedi
Speaker 2times . That's an important piece .
Speaker 1I think it's more of a piece to show . This place is going up in flames . Not so much , as this is a key component because , remember we were talking about witches . Witches still have multitudes of spells to protect hide cl , hide clothes but she very specifically said they're not around the kids leaving . The kids leaving themselves is a beacon . And then you see the beacon it peaks for three seconds and then it magically disappears .
Speaker 1So of course they're gonna come check it out yeah , I I do think there's something to that generator like that , some sort of because they they're going to come and check it out . Yeah , I do think there's something to that generator .
Speaker 3Because they really wanted them to stay and they were the only children , the only children , the only ones . That's it , so they made them for a purpose .
Speaker 1To save them . Right , I think they were made to save the witches they think they are Right , but then Again you're fooling around with shit .
Speaker 3you shouldn't be fooling around with Right .
Speaker 1And it was interesting because what Mama ? Had said Literally what Mama had said she didn't want to use violence . She specifically said no violence because she knows what's going to happen . And then the other mom was like it's only four Jedi . Who's going to miss them ?
Speaker 2She was ready to go fucking ham on these four Jedi . I want to point that out really quickly , that sentence , and then the sentence that Sol said to Osha on the ship , when Osha said are there other children there ? And Sol was like thousands , thousands , I think that for me , watching Star Wars for as long as I have , I think that that was just that line alone , because I've heard it like five times now , because we watched it with you , then we watched it again .
Speaker 1We've watched it like five times the last two days .
Speaker 2A hundred years from that moment , there will be two . Oh yeah , Think about that for a minute . They eradicated that many Jedi in that short of amount of time .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2That's wild .
Speaker 1Thousands of children . Now , that's thousands of children . That's not even counting the adult . Jedi Right , that's what I'm saying .
Speaker 2To think about Star Wars from us oldies who have you know when we literally looked and they were like there's two Jedi .
Speaker 3The .
Speaker 2Jedi Knights . I thought the Jedi Knights have long been , you know dead Right , but the High Republic that's , you know when all that's going on . You don't think about well , how many Jedi were there before and now we're putting actual numbers on where , like thousands , Doesn't Obi-Wan say something like that to you For a thousand generations ? The Jedi Knights were the peace . But they don't say like they never quantified in numbers .
Speaker 1We've mentioned it before , that Mace has a point in the movies where he says we're keepers of the peace , we're not soldiers , and my interpretation of that was partially you're just trying to be diplomatic , but also you don't have those kind of numbers to be soldiers .
Speaker 2At that time ? Yeah , at that time .
Speaker 1Correct me if I'm wrong , but the sacking of Coruscant . In fact it was before the High Republic right Coruscant . In fact it was before the High Republic right Coruscant has been sacked .
Speaker 2No no , no , are you talking about ?
Speaker 1during the hyperspace wars , when they were starting to map out the lanes , and all that shit .
Speaker 2Do you remember the ?
Speaker 1scene in the Old Republic when they crashed the frigate right into the front door of the Jedi novel . They still have to recover it , because that was Malgus right , because that could have been too far off , it was the Old Republic and it goes straight to the High Republic .
Speaker 2Yeah , but that stuff might not be in it .
Speaker 1Old Republic takes place quite some time , because we've also got stuff that takes place over a thousand years before the events of Episode 4 . We've got shit where the lightsabers are attached to boxes and batteries there used to be a time period where they were , in fact , warriors . They would go out and go to war .
Speaker 3They would go out and they would go to war . They were like warrior monks . They went to war against the Mandalorians . They fought the Mandalorians , they fought the .
Speaker 1Sith multiple times . That was the thing .
Speaker 2Up until Bane .
Speaker 1And then Bane said we can only have two Up until the High Republic part . The High Republic is kind of where they're like .
Speaker 2I thought Plagueis created the rules .
Speaker 1I think it was Darth Bane that did the rules , which was before Plagueis . Yes , so it was always going to be the Apprentice and the Master , the point being that the Apprentice will always be hungry enough to destroy the Master , which means that Apprentice has to be more powerful than the master . The thinking is that each line is stronger and stronger . I'm powerful enough to beat you , so I'm going to take Tony as my apprentice , knowing that one day he's going to be powerful enough to beat me . Then he's going to take Sherry as his apprentice . Sherry's going to fight .
Speaker 2Finally , it's just more power , more power . When will this one be powerful enough to take out this ?
Speaker 3one .
Speaker 1And then you've got the Chosen One that comes to bring balance , and that balance is reducing the Jedi to two . So it's like we've only got two Sith and then we can only have two Jedi . That's where the balance comes in . So I mean , because obviously the Sith were way outnumbered by the Jedi , and then you know , and fucking Palpatine was like I'm done with that shit , yeah , yeah , palpatine , and I think .
Speaker 2I really think I'm hoping that that's what we're seeing . Really think I'm hoping that that's what we're seeing . Like this as much as I love the idea of a show about stuff that happened in the past , that has nothing to do with what we know as Star Wars it's nice to connect the dots , and if this is what that is , those haters can go . I hope that they all are eating their words when the show .
Speaker 1I want them to drown in their own salty tears Right . Get high blood pressure from it . How ?
Speaker 2old do we think Palpatine is ? By human standards , how old do we think Palpatine is ?
Speaker 1He was , I think by the time we see him . By the time we see him , he's like . I believe he's like in his 60s by the time we see him . I believe he's in his 60s by the time we see him in the Phantom Menace .
Speaker 2Okay , so this is 100 years before . Well , this is 80 years . It was 100 years before the Galactic Empire .
Speaker 1This was 100 years before the Phantom Menace . This takes place .
Speaker 2I thought it was 100 years before the Galactic Empire .
Speaker 1This is 132 BBY for this , because the Phantom Menace takes place 32 BBY . This is supposed to be 132 . Okay .
Speaker 3Because they're doing that now .
Speaker 1Everything is really easy . It's 100 years . Young Jedi Adventures was 200 years . They're not making it too complicated for us to keep track . So this thing is 10 years before .
Speaker 2That means Palpatine is born somewhere around 40 years after we're seeing it .
Speaker 1So Plagueis could essentially be the apprentice . Right , we could be seeing a young Plagueis , a young Plagueis right , who deals with the twins .
The Force Bond of the Twins
Speaker 1Obviously , I don't think things are going to end well for the twins . I don't think that they have plot armor , because we never see them again .
Speaker 2Well , and one thing that I was going to mention earlier , alongside with my prediction of Plagueis , is I think that Osha and May are connected in the life force , so I think if one dies , the other one is going to die .
Speaker 1That's a great point .
Speaker 2The reason that Osha is even still alive right now is because May survived . Had May died , I think that Osha would have died .
Speaker 3Because I think the two of them are connected .
Speaker 2Every time they say that thing , you know I am you and you are me , and together we are one . I think that the two of them are somehow connected in the living force to where , if one dies , the other will die .
Speaker 1The poem . What was it it said ? We are one , born as two . Maybe that is some serious foreshadowing . They're one in the force , but the witches split them physically . So they share a friend Right .
Speaker 3So that's why she said I carry you , but maybe she it was just one .
Speaker 2The twins aren't normal . And then she did some shit and split Because one is definitely different than the other . The twins aren't normal . And then , she did some shit and split . Yeah , because one is definitely different than the other , because maybe it was supposed to be like Anakin , but instead of it being like Anakin , they split it . So you got your good side and your bad side separated .
Speaker 1And then also , when you split them , you split the power . So we're going to keep it as one child in Anakin , because that's too much power . No , we want that . We want Anakin to have the power all of it , because we split the twins . If it is Plagueis , plagueis knows that the power was split between two . It didn't work out .
Speaker 2It's not as strong as he could make it .
Speaker 1But if I keep it all in one , this little boy not as strong as he could be . But if I keep it all in one , this little boy , then I'll get something even more powerful to bring the Jedi down .
Speaker 2Well , I don't think he was , I think Palpatine , palpatine , yes .
Speaker 1It would be interesting to see , at some point , see one of the twins in a cloning bat somewhere , just bobbing up and down .
Speaker 3The cool thing is too .
Speaker 1I just looked at the book to see what people were talking about . They're saying that Plague has died in 32 for this show , which means that an Insidious took over and was running for Palpatine level everything in episode 1 in 52 . So he is still around and kicking looking for all that information for immortality while this is happening . It lines up extremely well Because , if you think about it , it says this series happens 100 years before what ? It's 132 years before the flight . It's 132 years before the Battle of Yavin . It's 132 BBY . So 132 years before the Battle of Yavin , 100 years before the Phantom Menace . So yeah , when was Sheev born ?
Speaker 2But again , I don't know . We have canon in that .
Speaker 1It is if they pulled the source from books .
Speaker 2Not all the books are canon . Not all the books are canon . That's part of the problem , unless there's something concrete in a canon book .
Speaker 1Anacus was alive to arrange for his apprentice to become the senator of Naboo and the rest of the Krummel sector , with him being elected in 52 BC . So when Palpatine tells Anakin about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis that wasn't an old story , that was like old story that was like last weekend , the tragedy of Darth Plague has happened in his apartment two blocks from here . I'm going to have to figure out what the actual reference was .
Speaker 2We've got to wrap it up .
Speaker 1Anybody have anything else , any predictions for next week ? Predictions for next week for the accolade ?
Speaker 2Hopefully it's not a flashback .
Speaker 1Hopefully it's not a flashback . Thank you everyone for next week . Predictions for next week for the accolade . Hopefully it's not a flashback . Hopefully it's not a flashback . Thank you everyone for joining us . As always , we do love you . We appreciate you . Thank you for hanging out with us . Of course , we're going to do some obligatory pimping . Please check us out online everywhere at the SSW show , that's on all social media channels . Follow us on Facebook , youtube , listen to the podcast on your favorite podcast network , wherever you like to get your podcasts from . As always , tune in next week . Remember , if no one does anything nice for you , do something nice to yourself . Thank you everyone for joining us . Gary , thank you for joining us . Sherry , thank you for joining us . Danny Lou , thank you for hosting us in your home . That's awesome . And , of course , t to the One . Thank you for coming out from parts unknown to join us on the show .
Speaker 2Happy to be here .
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