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Embark on a vinous adventure with us as we pop the cork on new beginnings and a toast to the year ahead. We are stirring the pot of conversation, not only with a nod to our podcast's whimsical moniker but also through the thrill of our recent merchandise drop. As we sip through the selection from Two Vintners and debate the art of professional spitting.

Sit back and let your curiosity be piqued by tales from the vineyards, where economic tremors ripple through the world of wine. We're dissecting the recent Bordeaux farmer protests with a sprinkle of humor and a dash of context, unraveling how manure-fueled bonfires and policy discussions might just reshape an industry under pressure. As the conversation veers from satellites re-entering the atmosphere to the austere realities facing winegrowers, you'll be entertained and informed in equal measures.

As we close out this episode, we can't help but poke fun at those all-too-familiar podcast sign-offs. We don't just bring you a bouquet of wine news; we uncork the heartfelt, unscripted musings that arise when good friends and good wine combine. So, raise a glass and join us on this unfiltered journey through the highs, lows, and laughs of the wine world, all served with a side of cheeky podcast banter.

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Chapters

• 0:00 New Beginnings and Wine Tasting
• 10:35 Wine Tasting and Random Conversations
• 20:41 Economics of Wine and Vineyards
• 30:48 French Farmer Protest and Wine Industry
• 35:52 Wine News Podcast Banter

Transcript

New Beginnings and Wine Tasting

Speaker 1 0:00

Bung Pod. Welcome back Wine Wonderboy. And we got Jazzy J Jazzy. What is a Bung? The whole of the barrel is called a Bung Hole. It's called inside the Bung Hole is called a Bung Wine with Mayhem. That's what it's about. Welcome, everybody. Welcome back to the Bung Pod. It's your boy, ian King, aka Wine Wonderboy, and we have our co-host here with us. It's Jazzy. You're not gonna say anything.

Speaker 2 0:33

Hi, hi. Well, normally you say it's Jazzy J, jazzy J, jazzy J. So I was waiting for the J Jazzy J here you go.

Speaker 1 0:43

I don't know why I put a J, cause, like your last name starts with an S, jazzy S. Ew Jazzy that's kinda weird. Yeah, I don't like that I don't know why I say Jazzy J, it just sounds cool.

Speaker 2 0:53

I think I feel like I've had a couple of people call me that.

Speaker 1 0:57

Yeah, yeah, jazzy, aka Champagne Throat Goat.

Speaker 2 1:02

Okay, no.

Speaker 1 1:05

No, I'll make your merch with that. On it. Bung Pod Champagne Throat.

Speaker 2 1:10

Goat.

Speaker 1 1:12

When you, deep through the deep, throw a champagne flute.

Speaker 2 1:16

Yes, yeah, and I'll do it again.

Speaker 1 1:18

You did it Um what up everybody Jazzy's here, hi guys, it's been a while. It's been a long time. We have new merch now.

Speaker 2 1:30

Woo, woo woo. We have such cool new merch. I hope you guys check it out.

Speaker 1 1:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:35

Where can we find?

Speaker 1 1:36

it. So, bung Podstore, it'll be in the description of this video If you're listening to it. It'll be in the description of the episode description. I'll put a link there for y'all so it's easier. Also, link in bio. You know we got a link tree. Hit the link in the bio on Instagram. It'll bring you right to the store. We got hoodies. We got handbags.

Speaker 2 2:04

Stickers.

Speaker 1 2:05

We got stickers.

Speaker 2 2:06

Beanie.

Speaker 1 2:07

And we got beanies. Thus far, we're working on t-shirts, long sleeves and hats. I just haven't found any hats hat companies I really like, because I'm really picky when it comes to hats.

Speaker 2 2:18

Well, if you wanna sponsor my new half marathon that I apparently signed up for, oh yeah. I can get a running hat.

Speaker 1 2:28

Bung Pod 4K or 10K. Oh no, half marathon. How many K's is that? How many K's is a half marathon?

Speaker 2 2:40

13 miles. I know that 13 miles all right, that's chill.

Speaker 1 2:45

I don't know how many kilometers.

Speaker 2 2:46

That is Well five K's three miles, Is it?

Speaker 1 2:49

running always like in kilometers, kilometers.

Speaker 2 2:54

How do we do that here?

Speaker 1 2:55

Dude, I don't know. There's five K's, there's 10 K's.

Speaker 2 2:59

And then there's a half marathon.

Speaker 1 3:01

And then there's a half marathon. I don't really care about how many K's it is, because that's not. We have a few UK listeners actually.

Speaker 2 3:10

We do.

Speaker 1 3:11

They'll probably know the transition the math on that guy more, let us know, yeah, but half marathon.

Speaker 2 3:22

Yeah, I can get a little running hat Heck, yeah, champagne.

Speaker 1 3:29

Champagne Throke Just on the back. Champagne just a bright pink tank top or something.

Speaker 2 3:37

I would wear it.

Speaker 1 3:38

It says Champagne Throke Wait.

Speaker 2 3:40

Half marathon or even a long sleeve, because it might be chilly that time of year still, especially in Seattle. When is it again?

Speaker 1 3:50

Cinco de Drinco, baby Cinco de Drinco. So half marathon is 21.09 kilometers, 13 miles yeah.

Speaker 2 4:00

Yeah, that's what I guessed 192.5 yards.

Speaker 1 4:04

Wait, that doesn't make any sense. Oh, 13 miles and 192.5 yards Gotcha, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 4:12

Makes a big difference.

Speaker 1 4:13

It was like there's no way like a football field is close to 100. Oh, don't ask me about math people. God, what up, so did.

Speaker 2 4:24

Merch. So what else is new with you?

Speaker 1 4:27

With me. Nothing really. We had Charlie on at, the winemaker and co-owner of Cardis Winery.

Speaker 2 4:35

Yeah, I'm sorry, I couldn't make that Sorry team Wasn't around.

Speaker 1 4:40

She's doing EMT stuff, which is huge, so you got a lot going on there, and also we got a couple other episodes coming out that don't have you in them, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 4:50

I know.

Speaker 1 4:51

So I'm going to Seattle this weekend by the time this comes out.

Speaker 2 4:58

Letting him off the leash. You guys, I'm sorry for what you're about to deal with. It won't be as funny.

Speaker 1 5:03

It really won't be as entertaining. But we got a cool guy named Chris Horn. He's the wine director at Purple Cafe in downtown Seattle and also Woodinville, I believe. But yeah, that'll be fun to have him on there. And then Tanya from SCO Wines she should be really fun to hang out with. But, right now we got another wine here we have.

Speaker 2 5:30

This is also the first time I have seen you in over a week because we are no longer coworkers. We have our no longer coworkers. We, technically are here.

Speaker 1 5:42

Yeah, here we are, of course.

Speaker 2 5:44

But, yeah, things have. I'm making life changes for the better. I'm excited, I'm ready for new beginnings and ready to make 2024, my bitch. There you go. That's really what it is. That's why we apparently signed up for a half marathon too. Yeah, so it's time to kind of take control of my life again, because 2023 can go suck some nuts. Yeah, that was a hard year for me, so we are going to start fresh. We are starting new beginnings, a new job, hopefully going back to school, getting my EMT and apparently doing things on my bucket list that I hope to cross off Hell hell, yes, so anyone that thinks they can't do it or has goals that they want to accomplish.

Speaker 2 6:51

You are the only one holding yourself back. Go fucking do it.

Speaker 1 6:54

Go fucking, do it, dude. Put your head down, do it. Don't be afraid to look stupid. We're doing this podcast and I look stupid most of the time. So, or probably sound stupid, yeah, but I don't care.

Speaker 2 7:05

I don't care, I don't care. Good God.

Speaker 1 7:10

Speaking of sound stupid. Ugh, this one is sexy.

Speaker 2 7:17

Why am I twirling with my left?

Speaker 1 7:19

hand.

Speaker 2 7:21

Sexy. Can't twirl things with my left hand. I can't either.

Speaker 1 7:28

I was going to say a bad word I'm very challenged with my left hand.

Speaker 2 7:34

You're the other word too.

Speaker 1 7:36

I'm about to get curtsled. Curtsled. That's for the Patreon people. Damn, this is sexy.

Speaker 2 7:41

It's like 10 minutes in, or whatever it is, yeah.

Speaker 1 7:44

What is it? 15 minutes or something, probably something like that. It's actually eight minutes in, so this is from two Vittners.

Speaker 2 7:57

So Tell me the details, the deets, um. What are we drinking? What does it smell like, what does it look like, what does it taste like?

Speaker 1 8:09

Give me the scoop man Smells like wine, tastes like wine. Good things Um.

Speaker 2 8:13

Smells like grapes. Tastes like alcohol.

Speaker 1 8:15

Yep, exactly. So this is from two Vintners. They are out of um Maltby, which is just north of.

Speaker 1 8:27

Woodenville, Um stone throw away from there. Um, Maltby is really cool. Another thing called the Maltby vault is what they got going on, kind of like an industrial area. Um, that area used to be kind of like nothing. It used to be like always industrial, but like more, kind of like construction trucks and stuff like that. But now it's just like they built a whole, uh, industrial plaza there. And so now there's I, there's not brewery, there's a distillery, I believe, and there's a bunch of wineries and tasting rooms there, which is fun.

Speaker 1 9:02

Um, but Morgan Lee is the owner and winemaker. I'm not sure if he's a coat owner or not, but he's definitely the winemaker there. Um, super awesome guy. I love him in death and at some point we're we'll have him on the pod. I'm just going to schedule that in. But this is a Sera from two Vintners. He has a couple of Sera's. This one's called some days are diamonds and he has another one that's called some days are stones.

Speaker 1 9:31

All right, let's take a quick break for a second Cause I got something I want to tell you guys about. If you want an extra episode per week, if you want exclusive discounts on some dope ass merch that we got. Also, if you want to add your two cents, your opinions, your hot takes or your topic ideas, we want to hear about it. Go to patreoncom slash official bung pod and talk to us. Now let's get back to the show. All right, guys, we got some news. We have an official bung pod store. We got some merch going bung podstore. Update your life, update your wardrobe. You need some new clothes. You need to look fresh. Update your life, update your style. We got hoodies, we got handbags, we got stickers, we got beanies. We got more coming on the way. So if you like the show and you want to cop yourself some merch, go to bung podstore. Now let's get back to the show.

Wine Tasting and Random Conversations

Speaker 2 10:34

How fun. I love two Vintners. They've always done wonderful things.

Speaker 1 10:38

They're amazing. It's from Maze Discovery Vineyard in Horse Heaven Hills. That's kind of. Horse Heaven Hills is kind of next to Red Mountain, yeah, a bit Down south near the Columbia.

Speaker 2 10:55

Oregon border border.

Speaker 1 10:58

Border border. Yeah, he has one that says some days are stones and some days are diamonds. The stones one, I believe, comes from the Rocks District.

Speaker 2 11:07

Okay.

Speaker 1 11:07

It's very funky. I've never had this one before, so I'm very excited.

Speaker 2 11:11

I was going to say I haven't had this one. I think I might have had the other one, though.

Speaker 1 11:17

I think the names of these serats are allude to something musical, but I don't remember what it is, so maybe I just shouldn't have said it, but anyways.

Speaker 2 11:33

Everything's musical to you. Oh, I love music.

Speaker 1 11:35

Big fan. I get like reduction like sulfur, flint, mineral rocks.

Speaker 2 11:46

Want to say the color.

Speaker 1 11:49

The color. I don't have a white, oh my, use my socks as my white background. Medium intensity as far as the opacity, and it has a it's kind of red. I mean it is a deep red hue on it.

Speaker 2 12:09

Yeah, it does have a deep red hue.

Speaker 1 12:10

It's almost purpley, which is sometimes. Serat can have a little purple tint to it sometimes. Fuck, that's good. Oh, it's funky and earthy.

Speaker 2 12:30

It is.

Speaker 1 12:31

It's really good though.

Speaker 2 12:33

You know I was going to. You're going to laugh, so with me going into this training, I was going to be like strict with myself and be like I'm only going to have one glass of wine and it's going to be for the beng pod a week yeah. Oh shit, after that sip I was like, all right, we'll make it two.

Speaker 1 12:53

We'll make it two. We'll make it two, we can do it.

Speaker 2 12:57

Whatever it takes, doing it for you guys.

Speaker 1 13:03

I was saying about going on a wine or a drinking hiatus as well at some point.

Speaker 2 13:08

Well, we can just like back down on our half glasses and yeah yeah, I know I've been a little out of control recently.

Speaker 1 13:19

I haven't actually. I've been like pulling back a lot.

Speaker 2 13:22

Really I'm drinking, yeah.

Speaker 1 13:23

I mean in the wine industry. You have to. I mean, you know this, especially in production, like we sometimes drink for a living and it's like, okay, that's fun for a certain period of time. Yeah, and a professional setting. You guys spit, can't swallow Spitters are quitters. Spitters are quitters, but you know if.

Speaker 2 13:48

I'm climbing up barrels. Huh, I spit today.

Speaker 1 13:52

You did.

Speaker 2 13:53

Yeah.

Speaker 1 13:53

I don't see a spittoon.

Speaker 2 13:55

Not here.

Speaker 1 13:56

Okay, what'd you think of it? How was your-.

Speaker 2 13:59

I had to hold my hair back.

Speaker 1 14:06

So that's how that went. So do you always hold your hair back when you spit, or is just no, normally another person does it no, but I actually did.

Speaker 2 14:19

for my new job I had to go through a tasting and-.

Speaker 1 14:23

Taste all the lines that they had.

Speaker 2 14:24

But I had to do the that was my spitting impression of you. Are you listening?

Speaker 1 14:34

Of me.

Speaker 2 14:35

No.

Speaker 1 14:35

Impression of me.

Speaker 2 14:37

Yeah, you you know, let's move on. Let's move on. I'm gonna be more behaved. Yeah, why? I don't know I would behave. I'm really starting a whole new a whole new me.

Speaker 1 14:54

Oh man, am I gonna like this new you?

Speaker 2 14:58

Obviously, I'm starting with hold my hair back Just more subtle.

Speaker 1 15:04

Here you go. Yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna start with a little bit more subtle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like this Surah a lot.

Speaker 2 15:14

It's very, very earthy, like almost like it is Like potting soil, almost I like potting soil almost. But I also feel like this is me.

Speaker 1 15:26

Trying to swirl with your left hand.

Speaker 2 15:28

Oh, oh.

Speaker 1 15:29

Oh you got it.

Speaker 2 15:30

Oh, you got it.

Speaker 1 15:32

Dude. One thing I noticed on last podcast is that Charlie from Cardis, he swirls with his whole arm. That's how he swirls. He does it with his whole arm. I just do it like the wrist flick.

Speaker 2 15:43

Yeah, that's what I-.

Speaker 1 15:44

I do the wrist flick, but he does his whole arm.

Speaker 2 15:46

I feel like I have to do my whole arm with my left.

Speaker 1 15:49

You say, oh yeah, like he was smelling. He's like, yeah, I was like, wow, you're putting your shoulder into that too. That's kind of impressive, I don't know. I was like damn, that's crazy, kind of like while he was talking.

Speaker 2 16:01

Yeah.

Speaker 1 16:02

I mean that podcast was so fun. He is so I mean this isn't a good podcast, it's a good way. He is so nerdy, he's just very curious about everything having to do with wine.

Speaker 2 16:13

That's awesome.

Speaker 1 16:14

And his curiosity does not quit A little bit of nerd, and so he's just like nerdy about like literally everything and I'm like damn dude, it's cool man.

Speaker 2 16:24

Oh Okay, off topic, this is nothing to do about wine. Did you hear about the satellite that is supposed to like land on earth? What Like in the next 24 hours?

Speaker 1 16:37

I need some context.

Speaker 2 16:39

A satellite so they're like Like what.

Speaker 1 16:42

That we-.

Speaker 2 16:43

It's put out from like 1995. They're pulling it back to earth because it's so old.

Speaker 1 16:51

Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 16:52

And they it's like a European. They say it's a geological. I'm getting all my information from Sam. I don't read the news. They're like pulling it back and there's like a very good chance that it's going to be crossing our path and going into, like Canada to fall, or into the ocean. Oh like our path is in Washington state. As in, like Shalane.

Speaker 1 17:19

Oh crazy, this could be a landing zone for it.

Speaker 2 17:22

I hope not. It just fucking knocks me out.

Speaker 1 17:25

But what is it?

Speaker 2 17:26

My debris that falls from it.

Speaker 1 17:27

Oh yeah, debris.

Speaker 2 17:30

It's like, hopefully it knocks into our campers. We can just get rid of that thing. Or it lands in the back of the truck and we just put a sheet over and we'll be like I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 17:42

And just sell it on a black market.

Speaker 2 17:44

No, then Sam would like jerk off to it or something. I don't know. That's what his goal is.

Speaker 1 17:53

Nice, but there's so much-.

Speaker 2 17:54

So it's from 1995 or something 95. And it's like geology stuff.

Speaker 1 18:00

A lot of shit changed since then.

Speaker 2 18:02

Yeah. It's like a satellite with like a.

Speaker 1 18:04

VHS player in it.

Speaker 2 18:06

But it's coming back into our atmosphere in the next like 24 hours and when you're listening to this, this is two weeks away. So our two weeks out, yeah.

Speaker 1 18:16

This is two weeks out until it releases.

Speaker 2 18:18

So hopefully you found out that news.

Speaker 1 18:21

Maybe next week I might hustle on it.

Speaker 2 18:25

Hustle and hustle and hustle. Yeah, okay, we'll talk about that later. You'll have to look into it. That's wild, I've been wanting to talk about it with someone all day and there was no one to talk about it 1994. I was four years old when that satellite went up, I was two. No, you were two, I was two. Twopox is still alive.

Speaker 1 18:45

Biggie was still alive. What else? Vhs the video is gone. Cassette tapes.

Speaker 2 19:00

You roll down your window. Oh, that's it.

Speaker 1 19:03

I had a bottle, a wine bottle from 1994.

Speaker 2 19:07

Oh, that's sick.

Speaker 1 19:07

That was really cool, that was a Clos du Valle Napa Cabernet Sauvignon, which actually that era is, when they were actually more of a grocery store like wine brand and not super high end. They're just doing stuff on volume. But also back then the amount of shit you put into grocery store wine wasn't as much as they do nowadays.

Speaker 2 19:30

So there is also that we should make that a topic.

Speaker 1 19:34

Speaking of shitty grocery store wine. Why is Josh trending so much on everything right now? Everything?

Speaker 2 19:44

Everything.

Speaker 1 19:45

It is so annoying to me because I'm just like, oh my God, like I've had their wines before.

Speaker 2 19:50

Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 19:51

Before I was a wine nerd.

Speaker 2 19:53

Yeah, that was like the cheap shit I'd buy.

Speaker 1 19:56

Yeah, Because that's a fancy label Like oh, it looks nice.

Speaker 2 20:00

It looks nice. It's not a fancy label. It looks nice.

Speaker 1 20:04

SNL did a skit too.

Speaker 2 20:07

Did they? Yeah, well, they did the first. Actually, I have my thing right here.

Speaker 1 20:11

They did a bit on Stanley cups.

Speaker 2 20:14

Oh my God, I saw that.

Speaker 1 20:15

Do you use motherfuckers? I got mine right here, bitch. It's called a big dumb cup. That's like the skit on SNL.

Speaker 2 20:25

Yeah, and what did they say?

Speaker 1 20:28

It can hold a full bottle of Josh. Yeah, god, it was one with Dakota Johnson.

Speaker 2 20:36

Yeah, that was a good skit. Yeah, I love SNL.

Speaker 1 20:39

Yeah, I don't know why Josh is.

Speaker 2 20:41

Probably because of that skit.

Speaker 1 20:43

There's no way. Because of that one skit. I feel like it was doing that before the skit happened.

Speaker 2 20:48

I don't know, I guess a little bit.

Speaker 1 20:51

Yeah.

Speaker 2 20:52

Probably something on TikTok God man.

Speaker 1 20:54

God, god, the amount of parody wine meme accounts I follow on Instagram have done a meme on Josh is absolutely absurd.

Speaker 2 21:09

You'll have to send me some of these. It's aggressive.

Speaker 1 21:11

It's aggressive.

Speaker 2 21:12

Well, actually it will probably pop up on my phone now that we're talking about it.

Speaker 1 21:17

Yeah Phone, josh meme, josh meme, wine memes.

Speaker 2 21:22

Wine memes here you go Me wine.

Speaker 1 21:24

Yeah, now you'll get a shit ton of them. But speaking of news, with the satellite thing, there is some other news that happened last month in the wine world. Yes, this is huge, which is crazy. This is going into a little bit of wine economics here.

Speaker 2 21:41

Yes, but it also. This has been going on for a little bit, but people are finally putting their foot down and I'm really happy to see it.

Speaker 1 21:48

Because the world of wine is in a huge, huge shift right now. We're in the middle of a big transition and the world of wine we've seen sales go down throughout the whole world dramatically. People are losing jobs or businesses and farmers. This is what this is about. This article is about a. Bordeaux wine growers joined fellow French farmers in on barricades, so they protested in Bordeaux. They went to, I believe, the headquarters for the regional government near the Gironde River and that's like the hub of Bordeaux right there. I mean, that's like smack that, in the middle of all the wineries all around you, and they threw manure and they lit it on fire. And because the costs of farming are going up way too high for them to be sustainable.

Speaker 2 22:47

Yeah, it's absurd, it's insane, I mean in general, that could be something that you're supporting no matter what and making sure, if anything, that they are overpaid. Farmers are probably the hardest working people I have ever met, and if you are putting a absurd price on it and just like not giving them the money that you need, well.

Speaker 1 23:17

I mean the farmers get paid off of.

Speaker 2 23:19

You've never seen an actual farmer.

Speaker 1 23:23

Yeah, the farmers get paid off of selling the product right.

Speaker 2 23:28

And it's also like Something to do with the imports and exports, I believe.

Speaker 1 23:34

Yeah, there is that, but they're just talking about the cost of farming and so, because of COVID, when we saw a huge jump in supply chain, prices go way, way up. Everything that we bought from the winery that I work at went up like two fold and their prices are not going down, even though it's long after the lockdowns. You know, everyone's open now. All businesses are open. We're able to function. Demand is never higher.

Speaker 2 24:09

This is such a good point of like shop local.

Speaker 1 24:12

Yeah, but the supply chain prices are still way, way up, like corks, labels and glass.

Speaker 2 24:19

They're like oh, but there's a supply chain issue.

Speaker 1 24:21

So like we have to add this extra cost, but that extra cost doesn't go away. They just add it to the bill and it's forever staying there. And this is why your wines are so expensive. People, if you want good wine, why is good wine expensive? Because in the United States I was going to say the United States of U? S of A. I love my brain, sometimes I'm just fucked up. So in the U? S fucking A, when it comes to wine, you're spending money on the vineyard if you don't have one, so you're buying the grapes which goes into farming?

Speaker 1 25:07

Yes, so that could be anywhere from 2000 to $9,000 per ton of grapes that you get, depending on where it's from and the kind of grapes you get.

Speaker 2 25:14

And you've got to think that is paying for employees, their time and effort, the gas, the tractors, the propane everything and then you have to buy corks, labels and glass.

Speaker 1 25:31

Those have gone up in price.

Speaker 2 25:33

Barrels new French oak new.

Speaker 1 25:35

American oak like those have gone up in price too Tanks, tanks. Everything has gone up in price and is so hard for wineries to be sustainable and not raise their prices.

Speaker 2 25:50

How about we just make everybody go down $2 in pricing across the board right now on everything? March 31st, everybody dropped their price by $2. Let's hit the tick pick for September.

Speaker 1 26:06

Intuitive here's the tip and I'll make is check your command unit forward and share with you price号.

Speaker 2 26:15

Inving query you can see numbers and you can see the GDP value. Let's see that in general, globally price high demand lead, so to speak, even for the longest contracts.

Speaker 1 26:26

We cameras, so most of them don't even have cost of land.

Speaker 2 26:31

And the United States we have cost of land Because the generation passed down.

Speaker 1 26:34

Yeah, that's why some people, when they go to wine shops or wine bars and they see French wines or Italian wines, especially Spanish wines, they're like, wow, why is this so much cheaper than United States wines? They're like, oh, it tastes better and it's a lot cheaper. Like well, they don't have cost of land. A lot of times I mean, we have to like their French oak, for example. It's grown there and so they don't have to pay for exporting or anything like that, and so there's a lot more that just goes into it.

Speaker 1 27:07

There's a lot less cost in France and all those old world countries. They don't have cost of land and we do, which is why our grape prices are so expensive. There's also supply demand, right. The more demand you have of one thing, the higher the price goes up, right. So that depends on the vineyard and the great variety. So, like Napa, cabernet Sauvignon, that's really fucking expensive. Santa Barbara, pinot Noir, really fucking expensive to get per ton. But it also depends on what vineyard that you're picking from, and so it's fucking. The economics of wine is insane.

Speaker 2 27:46

I'm about to say look at you and your little economics over there.

Speaker 1 27:50

Well, I've learned a lot since being a seller master and you know, seeing behind the scenes of like, how much certain things cost and whatnot.

Speaker 2 27:59

When you start seeing the pricing and, honestly, it doesn't even go just to making that bottle but, continues from there, especially for these little vineyards, like even the facility itself. I mean now you're talking about the land for that, the putting down foundation building, the building.

Speaker 2 28:23

I mean keeping it warm, keeping it cold, electricity, I mean there's so many little things that people don't understand. But then when they buy a bottle of wine or go to the grocery store and see that an apple cost however much it cost, they're in just the expense of food. I mean gosh, I went to the, went to store the other day and it was like $350. And I was like I bought most, mostly vegetables Like how is this $350? But then you've got to go back into how that one piece of pepper or corn was made. I mean, it's not just here's an apple, it's here's the gas, here's the tractors, here's the labor behind it the manufacturing, the packaging and everything that goes on behind.

Speaker 2 29:22

Yes, I mean there's so much that people don't understand, or I mean they probably understand it, but they don't understand or think about the big picture. And you know our world needs to come together and you know, like I said, drop by two bucks March 31st.

Speaker 1 29:41

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French Farmer Protest and Wine Industry

Speaker 1 30:24

Update your life, update your wardrobe. You need some new clothes. You need to look fresh. Update your life, update your style. We got hoodies, we got handbags, we got stickers, we got beanies. We got more coming on the way. So if you like the show and you want to cop yourself some merch, go to bung podstore. Now let's get back to the show. One thing I really liked about this this article though. In France, in Bordeaux, the whole protest of farmers. In Bordeaux, the Minister of the interior his name is Gerald Darmanin. It's probably a lot more French sounding when they say it.

Speaker 2 31:13

Yeah, it's a good sound. Say that sounded real white.

Speaker 1 31:16

Um, what's his response? The French are white. I don't know if you know that, but they are.

Speaker 2 31:21

Not always.

Speaker 1 31:23

That's yeah, most of them yeah.

Speaker 2 31:27

Not always, that's true.

Speaker 1 31:28

Like most yeah, not all Americans are white either, you know? Um, his response to the protest was awesome, so, mind you, they were lighting literal shit on fire, good for them. Bags of shit. You ever played that game where you lighted by a dog poop on fire and someone's doorstep and ding dong.

Speaker 2 31:48

I've never done anything good.

Speaker 1 31:49

in my life I've done that a few times. My cousin Um.

Speaker 2 31:54

I can say that being something you do.

Speaker 1 31:56

Shout out Brynn, um so. So the minister's response was dope, though, so they were lighting shit on fire. He said we don't, we do not respond to suffering by sending riot police, which was I thought was fucking huge. I mean, what do you think our government?

Speaker 2 32:19

would do. Your code would be like fuck it, blow it up, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 32:24

Instantly there would be like riot police everywhere.

Speaker 2 32:26

Well, it depends on you know uh, If you don't remember Seattle a couple years ago.

Speaker 1 32:32

Yeah, yeah, wait, how many years ago.

Speaker 2 32:34

A couple years ago.

Speaker 1 32:35

A couple. What happened a couple years ago?

Speaker 2 32:38

When we had all those riots in Seattle.

Speaker 1 32:40

I wasn't here for that.

Speaker 2 32:42

And they like what was it called?

Speaker 1 32:45

Um, I remember one like way back in the day.

Speaker 2 32:49

Way back in the day.

Speaker 1 32:50

Yeah.

Speaker 2 32:51

It was shit. What was I called? It was on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 1 32:56

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 32:59

Yeah, yeah, it was like a neutral zone.

Speaker 1 33:02

Yeah, like, yeah, they were trying to establish a new government. Yes, apart from the United States just in one like, was it three? Three square blocks.

Speaker 2 33:13

Yes.

Speaker 1 33:15

One square mile of just like. This is our country and they were like ruining small businesses.

Speaker 2 33:19

It was so sad.

Speaker 1 33:20

Yeah, it's really shitty, um, but yeah, he said we do not respond to suffering by sending riot police. I thought that was fucking awesome, yeah, um, and they were lighting shit on fire Literal shit on fire in front of his face.

Speaker 2 33:36

You didn't know they were lighting shit on fire.

Speaker 1 33:38

They were lighting shit on fire, guys. Literal shit, which is insane. Yeah, the whole thing is like they can't pay for anything because the cost of production is less than what they're selling everything for.

Speaker 2 33:50

Yeah, and being forced to sell things, for I really don't blame them, yeah.

Speaker 1 33:55

But they did get some compensation at the end. So I think by the EU.

Speaker 2 34:02

I hope so. Yeah, I do feel like the EU would definitely step in on something like that, especially because Bordeaux is a huge um. They're one of the biggest supply suppliers there. Oh, huge, huge.

Speaker 1 34:18

And a lot some of the producers that were protesting like we are, like are we specialized in quality, low cost wine.

Speaker 2 34:25

Yeah.

Speaker 1 34:26

How are we even supposed to have a job at this point? Because, like people like Chateau Pave, um fucking, why is? Why are all the Bordeaux high end shit, margot, chateau, margot, you know? Lafitte Ross, trial those people will be fine. Yeah, regardless of how much things cost like they'll be okay. But it's a little people. It's a people that actually keep the culture and industry going, because, yeah, you can sell your bottle for 5000 people, but not a lot of people are actually buying that from you.

Speaker 2 35:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1 35:03

So you have to sell a lower tier at some point, you know.

Speaker 2 35:09

Yep, like us Little people.

Speaker 1 35:14

That's little people, some of guys just want to drink wine. Yeah, some people don't want to buy that $5000. I don't want to buy a $5000 bottle of wine. If I had $5000, I would do a lot of other things with it. I'd buy multiple bottles of wine, but I wouldn't buy one.

Speaker 2 35:33

Multiple like literal cases. No, fuck that, I would buy like Tripti Europe, yeah.

Wine News Podcast Banter

Speaker 1 35:43

Right, right Facts One way to get See ya. Anyways. Well, thank you guys for listening to the Bung Pai once again. It's about our time today, your source for wine news. Just kidding, no, we're not.

Speaker 2 36:04

Oh my God, don't ever do that again.

Speaker 1 36:06

Your source? I just think it's funny when people do that shit. Your source for wine?

Speaker 2 36:15

I literally don't know why I'm here.

Speaker 1 36:16

Okay, I'm putting that out.

Speaker 2 36:18

Cheers, please don't Just for my entertainment.

Speaker 1 36:22

I'm getting crazy Time to go to Patreon Cheers. Bye you, you, you.