The Case to Buy American: https://aribendersky.substack.com/p/drink-more-american-wine BUNG POD Merch: www.bungpod.store _____________ Discover the unexpected delights of a bone-dry Riesling and join our toast to the hardworking American winemakers. This week, Wine Talk with Bung Pod uncorks a bottle from Laterus Winery, revealing the surprising versatility of Riesling grapes. We're not just savoring the wine; we're rallying behind the local vineyards, especially those feeling the pinch from a stark 20% drop in sales. With Patrick Cappiello steering our conversation, we explore the impactful choice to sip locally produced wines and the profound difference it makes to our communities.
Ever wonder what makes each vineyard's bottle unique? Our latest episode peels back the curtain on the artistry of vineyard management, from the meticulous pruning techniques in Washington's landscapes to the innovative spirit of wineries in Sonoma and Santa Barbara. Wrapped in our brand-new Bung Pod hoodies, we discuss the evolving tastes of wine enthusiasts and the rise of alternative indulgences like the cannabis industry. Our narrative weaves through the vintner's craft and advocates for the joy of wine, sipped with care and a keen appreciation for the stories each bottle holds.
To cap off, we're sharing not just any recommendations but those etched in our hearts—places like the white wine haven of Woodinville and the intimate birthday toasts on Bainbridge Island. We reveal the wineries that are a must on any connoisseur's list, from Latta's hidden gems to the remarkable white Pinot Noir at Amos Rome. And before we part, there's an open invitation to continue the conversation and support our podcast on Patreon. Your cheers and support keep our spirits high and the conversation as rich as a well-aged Cabernet. Join us and become part of the community that celebrates every clink of the glass. Cheers!
The Case to Buy American: https://aribendersky.substack.com/p/drink-more-american-wine BUNG POD Merch: www.bungpod.store _____________ Discover the unexpected delights of a bone-dry Riesling and join our toast to the hardworking American winemakers. This week, Wine Talk with Bung Pod uncorks a bottle from Laterus Winery, revealing the surprising versatility of Riesling grapes. We're not just savoring the wine; we're rallying behind the local vineyards, especially those feeling the pinch from a stark 20% drop in sales. With Patrick Cappiello steering our conversation, we explore the impactful choice to sip locally produced wines and the profound difference it makes to our communities.
Ever wonder what makes each vineyard's bottle unique? Our latest episode peels back the curtain on the artistry of vineyard management, from the meticulous pruning techniques in Washington's landscapes to the innovative spirit of wineries in Sonoma and Santa Barbara. Wrapped in our brand-new Bung Pod hoodies, we discuss the evolving tastes of wine enthusiasts and the rise of alternative indulgences like the cannabis industry. Our narrative weaves through the vintner's craft and advocates for the joy of wine, sipped with care and a keen appreciation for the stories each bottle holds.
To cap off, we're sharing not just any recommendations but those etched in our hearts—places like the white wine haven of Woodinville and the intimate birthday toasts on Bainbridge Island. We reveal the wineries that are a must on any connoisseur's list, from Latta's hidden gems to the remarkable white Pinot Noir at Amos Rome. And before we part, there's an open invitation to continue the conversation and support our podcast on Patreon. Your cheers and support keep our spirits high and the conversation as rich as a well-aged Cabernet. Join us and become part of the community that celebrates every clink of the glass. Cheers!
Bung Pod. Welcome back Wine Wonderboy. And we got Jazzy, j Jazzy. What is a bung? The whole of the barrel is called a bung hole. It's called a bung hole Inside the bung hole is called a bung Wine with mayhem. That's what it's about. Welcome back to the bung pod. Everybody, I'm your host, ian King, aka Wine Wonderboy, and we got my co-host with me, jazzy J. Jazzy, hey, hey, hey hey, hey, hey. How about?
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Welcome back to the pod, everybody. Thank you for listening. We got a few things that we're rolling today. So first, like we do, we're going to drink some wine and we're gonna tell you all about it, and then we're gonna talk a little bit about American wine, merkin, merkin. Why Merka, merka American wine, and why you should be buying more and more American wine exclusively these past couple months.
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It's an interesting topic.
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I'm gonna talk. Now that we are coming to the end of pruning season, it's time to educate you guys on why you're seeing these. Well, really, I'm educating you on the pruning styles that we know here, at least in Washington, and we'll talk a little bit about that, what we're looking for, what it's called, all that good stuff. So that's what we're gonna go in depth on as well.
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We need like a little name for when I go into my vineyard lifestyle.
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Yeah. Yeah Well you got a nickname for you.
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You already have, like a new nickname a vineyard nickname, no, but like all right, we're going into the I don't know oh like a segment.
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A segment, yes, I feel I get your, I get your, I got it. I got it. I got it. A segment Vedic culture segment.
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Vedic culture segment with Jazz.
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Yeah.
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Literally. All right, let's start off. What are we drinking?
Speaker 1:
We are drinking a dry re-sling.
Speaker 2:
Oh.
Speaker 1:
Bone dry re-sling. This is from Latteras Winery. They are based in the Maltby Vault. It's outside of Woodenville.
Speaker 2:
Can I say I thought that was.
Speaker 1:
That's where Two Vittners is as well. Okay, that's why I reckon it the Y-Makers Tyler great, great dude. I love him, but this is their dry re-sling their 2020 dry re-sling from Bakas Vineyard, white Bluffs 100% re-sling, fermented, dry and stainless steel. This is a re-sling unlike the rest. Chris Melon and Honey Notes dominate the aroma on this unique white, and that's true.
Speaker 2:
No, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 1:
That's true. All right, it does have a lot of honey characteristic it is bone dry people. So people think re-sling is sweet. It's just not sweet. This is bone dry, has a little bit of the petrol, petrol diesel aromatics.
Speaker 2:
But it's like right on quick, it's quick on the nose.
Speaker 1:
I absolutely love that in re-sling Some of my favorite things. And on the palette let's see Honeydew baby, honeydew Melon, honeydew Melon. Oh, it's got some floral notes in there too, like white flowers. Beautiful, beautiful wine.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
I love this.
Speaker 2:
It is dry. You know, it's funny because actually today I had someone come in and they were picking up their wine club allotment and they were supposed to get a re-sling but I was out of it and so I was like, what would you like to replace with it?
Speaker 2:
And they're thinking and like you know, I'm glad it's not like I'm glad because I don't really like re-sling and she was at all and she was tasting at the time and I go, oh yeah, I can understand that, Like you know, they got a bad rep Like I feel like Barefoot and like those lower brand. Bulk wine Bulk wines have really just ruined a re-sling because they're always sweet.
Speaker 1:
They ruined a lot of things for a lot of people.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, sure, like chablis for one.
Speaker 1:
White Zinfandel.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, oh God yeah.
Speaker 1:
That was a sin.
Speaker 2:
I couldn't even drink that now.
Speaker 1:
That was an absolute sin.
Speaker 2:
But she's like, yeah, I don't like that. And so I'm giving her tastings and I looked at her and goes so how do you like that? She's like, oh, it's great, I go. Okay. So that has 80% re-sling. And she's like what, excuse me?
Speaker 1:
How dare you? Let me try something and open my mind.
Speaker 2:
And I was like, yeah, it's crazy. But yeah, I mean, I feel like bulk wine has really ruined, or just given the idea of Reaslings are only sweet or white and synthantyl is only sweet and in college loved them cheap biamin magnums last me half an hour, but they did ruin the actual grape itself. I mean, a dry reasling does not. Yeah, just kind of regular A reasling in general is not like that. I mean a lot of people that like you when you were tasting, say, 20 merlows or whatever crab frogs yeah.
Speaker 2:
I mean, it's always kind of the go to at the end of okay, let me have some reasling to refresh in my palate. And I feel like we've discussed that before.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
But yeah, reaslings. Just people need to stop being so scared of them.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, they're misunderstood. They are misunderstood grape that's how I feel sometimes. I feel all the time is understood.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, literally.
Speaker 1:
Literally.
Speaker 2:
All right, what else? What's what Give me?
Speaker 1:
So something came to my attention. If you guys listen to the Chris Horn podcast episode, that's number 12. It was great. It was awesome.
Speaker 2:
I'm glad to have probably one of our best.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 2:
I was so glad to have you all that we've interviewed.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
Really, I've just been on the sidelines. You've done wonderful jobs on the interviewing.
Speaker 1:
Thank you, I try. I'm trying to get better at interviewing, yeah, so something caught my attention on Instagram and so I follow the link, and what I was going to say about the Chris Horn podcast episode was one thing that we touched on was the kind of recession or wine purchasing recession right now that we're going through yeah, and it's really worldwide, not just United States, but I feel like it takes it hits harder to the US.
Speaker 2:
Yes.
Speaker 1:
And that's because all of these brands are still paying off their land. They're still paying off their loans, or babies. We are babies. We're not like France, italy, spain, all those.
Speaker 1:
They're inheriting the land and inheriting the business and it's been in their family for generations and generations, and that's why it's so inexpensive to get a wine shop and whatnot. But American wineries are really, really struggling more than most. And so what I saw on Instagram was Patrick Cappiello. He is a big influence or he was a big influence in the New York Somalia scene. He is someone I've looked up to a lot throughout my wine education. He could go Google or YouTube, patrick Cappiello, and there are some awesome, awesome little YouTube things that they did with another company. I think it was like food and wine or something like that but he's a great dude, amazing, amazing knowledge base and amazing person. And then he moved out to California, to Sonoma, and he started his own wine brand called Montereo Sellers with a winemaker called Pax Mall. It does Pax wines.
Speaker 2:
I do want to say this almost follows the concept of when we brought up the issues in France with the whole farming and the government.
Speaker 1:
With the protests. Yeah, the protests in Bordeaux.
Speaker 2:
I feel like this does kind of fall in the same line as that. So if you haven't listened to that podcast, take a look out of it. Look at it. And we released that win probably a month ago.
Speaker 1:
Yeah. By the time you guys hear this, it'll be like two months. It's number 11.
Speaker 2:
Number 11? Yeah, number 11. God, you have good memory sometimes. Oh, I edit everything. All edits are him. I just am here to look good.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
I didn't have to agree to that, thanks. I mean, we are in a recession. This is a luxury item. I mean you don't even think about it that way, especially as just an everyday consumer. But wine is a luxury. Being part of a wine club is a luxury. Not the average Joe can afford to, or our average can't afford to be part of a wine club. You know, even if it is $100 every quarter or every three months or whenever they release it, you know it varies depending on winery, but sometimes $100, even though they are still probably purchasing wine during that time. I mean, like it's like a wine club, it's like, oh, I can't afford that, but in reality they are still going out and buying alcohol. Yeah, but seriously, it's becoming a problem. Yeah, even last year compared to the year prior. As someone that lives in Lake Shilan, that works in this industry, even scheduling employees like and you know that takes a toll on money at the end of the day is do I bring in two people? Do I bring in five people?
Speaker 2:
Right, I think that's like this yeah. Yeah, now I have five people sitting here waiting for that four o'clock rush, even though we close at five because that's when we get our rush. But then there's no rush. And now what?
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I mean getting. So getting to this article. So Patrick Cappiello posted this sub stack article on his Instagram page and I followed it because it's wine news and it's really important and I work at a winery and-.
Speaker 1:
And we are seeing this and we are seeing this, that there is a struggle, and so American wine, it says. American wineries are struggling right now. We have a huge amount of inventory and a huge decrease in sales and you can help us. We are asking you for one thing drink our wines by our wines. So Patrick Cappiello posted this sub stack article on Instagram. I'll follow the link. I will link this sub stack article in the show notes. So go to the show notes, click the article and I encourage you to read it. I will go over it a little bit today with you guys. So what's happening is, while they're saying they're seeing like a 20% decrease and when I was talking to Chris Horn, he said about he's seen like a 4% decrease in the restaurant industry, and what I said on the in response to him I was like it feels like 20.
Speaker 2:
And then it happens to be for wineries 20, which is crazy, and so what's happening is because I guess in general, like if you have wholesale too, you know even that slows down is even though they're not buying at the winery. Cause, yeah, I get like you don't live here, it's hard to go to the winery, but then again right or even pay for shipping, but then again, like you, could go to the stores and even they're decreasing as well.
Speaker 1:
And then I'll quote Patrick Capiello on this article right now. He said, quote if we don't shift the focus right now to concentrate on drinking domestic wine and supporting domestic producers, then producers will have worked so hard to build change on what we're doing here and they're the ones that are going to fail, and quote. So what he's talking about is, with this wine recession, with all these sales going down, the ones that are going to fail are going to be the boutique, high quality wineries that make handcrafted wine. The ones that will succeed are going to be bulk winemakers. You know people like Gallo, people like constellation brands, you know, like all those people will be fine, the revenues will be down, but they're going to survive and it's the smaller labels which many, many people adore and prefer their wines over store bought.
Speaker 2:
Yes, I mean it's definitely grocery store bought.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it's definitely an experience when you go to these small wineries. But also it goes to the concept of shop local. You know keeping your money in local businesses and you know, you even see that, especially with Amazon, the amount of businesses that have had to close because they can't be supported by their friends and families and neighbors is really unfortunate, right, and you know it goes into just not just what, but this goes into the little people of boutique clothing stores and stuff like that, as you got to support your local people. I get Amazon is it's easy, it's literally swipe and it's there. But at the same time, even though it might cost $10 more at your neighbor's little business, it's. It's worth it because that goes a long way, not only for their business but within your community. And I feel like a lot of people don't understand that because they just love the concept of oh, I can go on Amazon and buy whatever I want. I mean, I've even bought kombucha on there, Like you can buy food and all this stuff.
Speaker 2:
That it you know it makes it too easy and it's probably cheaper, which I get because it's a bigger company. It's a big corporation, they can sell it for cheaper. But again, stay local. I mean, you really need to and help these smaller.
Speaker 1:
And if you're someone like me that loves variety in their wine selection and your local wineries don't have a lot of variety, like not knocking our wine region, shaland, but, like most wineries, have the same great varieties that they grow apart from a couple.
Speaker 1:
Right, I mean, you see it over and over and over again, but make sure like you can still have a variety of wine of great varietals if you're worried about that, just by American, because people like Patrick, kapp, yellow and Pax they experiment with Truceau Noir, truceau Gree, he does Pequettes Like they do a lot of stuff over there, especially in Sonoma. I see most of those lesser known great varieties in Sonoma and Santa Barbara so I see most of those being grown there and if you don't want to, you know if you want a larger variety of wines in your selection. I understand that completely. Just by just trying by American and what Patrick said.
Speaker 2:
There are fancy big names here. It's not like there's not. But just because it comes from France doesn't mean you're that bougie. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:
So they're not sure if this. In the article they kind of stated that they're not sure if this is a change in generational spending or not. Because one thing I saw on a New York Times article. I just read a headline and I didn't read the whole article, but it said that the wine industry is dying along with the older generation.
Speaker 2:
It didn't say that verbatim. I did read something about because of cannabis.
Speaker 1:
Because of weed, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:
Well and I can see it Like a lot of people you know they get stoned.
Speaker 1:
Weed is good with wine people.
Speaker 2:
Okay, settle down.
Speaker 1:
I do it all the time, not like a bottle, but like I won't have multiple glasses. You know, if I have weed then I'll have like a glass, just like alcohol it's, you know, moderation.
Speaker 2:
Exactly.
Speaker 1:
So you can't be binging on that.
Speaker 2:
But like at the same time, more people feel like they can drive. Let's say they shouldn't.
Speaker 1:
No I am not, absolutely not.
Speaker 2:
I'm still unsignatured, but still don't do that. But you know what I mean. I would rather have someone that's high, going 10 under the speed limit, than a drunk driver. And yeah, I don't know, that's a crazy thought and I am going to get probably so much hatred on social media for that. But you know, I would rather and honestly like I make poor decisions when I drink and when I'm stoned I'm probably making poor decisions with my fridge.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah, I was going to say like poor decisions. You know, I make terrible decisions when I'm high, but it's usually in the context of calories. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2:
And you know what? I wrote a paper in college about weed and how it should be legal and all this stuff and how it's not just a it's not just a open door to more drugs, Like that whole idea, and I go, if anything, it's just the open door to my fridge.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah, for sure, I mean that whole thing came from Nancy Reagan and it was a whole government.
Speaker 2:
Oh my God, it was just a government like misinformation campaign. Here we go, go down the rabbit hole. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:
I got that lecture from my parents.
Speaker 2:
Oh, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 1:
And then I mean I didn't touch weed for the longest time because of you know what? What they?
Speaker 2:
said my God, next thing I know I'm doing heroin. Like what yeah?
Speaker 1:
And I grew up in Seattle so I saw a plenty of homeless people growing up so I was like I don't want to be like them.
Speaker 2:
Well, gosh, I went to the stair climb this past weekend and I was hammered.
Speaker 1:
I mean let's? I'll just say this Seattle is nowhere near what. La is Okay With homeless people.
Speaker 2:
But it was okay, hold up.
Speaker 1:
Nowhere near.
Speaker 2:
I was, so I started my day off with mimosas because, as a girl, should. And then we're waiting for everybody to chime.
Speaker 1:
Did you do the spray bottle? Do you use the orange juice in?
Speaker 2:
the spray bottle.
Speaker 1:
Spritz, your spritz your bubbles.
Speaker 2:
No because we had to, we had to make them in the bathroom.
Speaker 1:
So we didn't have to get caught, remind you it's 8 am Classy.
Speaker 2:
Remind you, it's 8 am. So then we went to go get seltzers at this 7-eleven where they were doing CPR on them.
Speaker 1:
So you're the reason why wine is in decline right now.
Speaker 2:
Shut up, just kidding. But then there was a guy getting CPR while I'm trying to get my seltzers to go watch people climb the Columbia Tower and I literally looked at the cash register person and was like can I please take these out of the box so I don't get jumped the moment that I go out? He's like I understand, and we put him in like plastic cups so we weren't just out in public. But then next thing I know I'm like blacked out by two and I was so drunk I went to the bathroom and I was like I need to go on a walk. Dumb ass me goes on a walk with no self-defense which was surprising, because normally I have like a taser or something on me went on a walk around the block. It wasn't like a far walk with just hammered no defense, was this?
Speaker 1:
at night or in the day.
Speaker 2:
It was like 2pm. Okay, all right, yeah, and I'm in the middle of. Seattle and walking the block. Just everybody I passed was probably like this poor girl, she probably just went through a breakup. No, I did not break up with Sam and obviously, and I get back and the whole team was like where have you been? I don't ever do that again. We thought you got like raped and like all this stuff.
Speaker 1:
This is also small town people going to a big city, so there is a lot of that involved too. All the firefighters that your friends with that you went with, are all small town firefighters.
Speaker 2:
And also there's. I mean 2000 people went up, did this stair climb and they all go to the circle bar. It's like an Irish pub downtown.
Speaker 1:
Seattle. Is it in post alley no. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:
It's by the ferry, though.
Speaker 1:
I went to one post-alliator on Patty's Day last year.
Speaker 2:
Okay, okay so, but yeah, everybody shows up to this bar and here I am just stumbling my ass around and I'm like and Sam, just like, this isn't the same as last year. I'm like what, but yeah?
Speaker 1:
What happened last year? You said it wasn't the same as last year. That wasn't involved. Oh, you weren't involved.
Speaker 2:
No, actually it's the taste of Washington which is this week, or well, I mean the weekend that we're recording this.
Speaker 1:
It is this weekend.
Speaker 2:
It is this weekend Case.
Speaker 1:
Washington At some point. We would love to have a booth there. I don't know if they allow other people other than wineries to go?
Speaker 2:
I think they do. Yeah, that would be cool for us to have a booth. Well, they allow food. Why can't I be on there? I can eat and drink.
Speaker 1:
Right, right.
Speaker 2:
I would love to be.
Speaker 1:
I would love to be sick, it'd be fun for us to be part of Yo Taste Washington A wine event like that.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it'd be cool. Help us out, All right, but back to the point. I mean okay, back to buying small town wine is.
Speaker 1:
Just buy American wine. It doesn't have to be small, I mean, but also support local.
Speaker 2:
If you're in a small town, support local. Yeah, no matter who it is, obviously support your wineries.
Speaker 1:
Basically, the idea is support support boutique wineries, Ones that don't make like I don't know.
Speaker 2:
What ones?
Speaker 1:
that make less than 100,000 cases a year.
Speaker 2:
Yes, or less than 10, less than 10,000 cases. Yeah, I would say 10,000.
Speaker 1:
10,000 of reasonable amount. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:
Walk in and be like how many cases do you make?
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
All right, I got you.
Speaker 1:
So for a cool exercise, let's you go first Name off top five Washington wineries for people to buy. In Chilean or in the state, or actually you know, let's just do whatever US of fucking a, just like the whole, the whole gambit, top five.
Speaker 2:
So obviously I'm going to go with, like Baymorge Island winery, eagle Harbor winery, because small town, those are my people, that's where I came from.
Speaker 1:
Do you like their wine?
Speaker 2:
I do like their wine, okay, and I like them. They're good people.
Speaker 1:
Because we're telling people to go buy their wines right now.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, no, they're doing great things. Especially if you're on Baymorge, I mean, it's definitely like a destination place. So I hope you visit, go support them, and I'm going to say I'll say Vershalan, that got stressful.
Speaker 1:
It's like in the whole US Whole.
Speaker 2:
US.
Speaker 1:
Whole US.
Speaker 2:
But then I think of like, Napa and like skip Napa, they're fine. They got a lot of money. I skip Napa and like any. Oh, janine, it's from Matthews.
Speaker 1:
Jane.
Speaker 2:
Jane.
Speaker 1:
They're fucking awesome. Love that Love. Jane, oh my God, they're they're, they're recently, are fucking good too.
Speaker 2:
Well, and the place in Woodenville oh, so cute, it's awesome. I really liked.
Speaker 1:
And they only do white wines and rosés which is an awesome business model Totally.
Speaker 2:
And they do a really good job it was honestly one of the only wine clubs that I consider joining. And honestly, now that we're talking about it, I might still go join them.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I feel like white wine is that much.
Speaker 2:
Well, I never have them and I, every time I go to a winery, for some reason, I always buy reds and I always tell myself you don't need any more reds and I usually buy reds because my my person.
Speaker 1:
She all she drinks is red wine. She doesn't drink.
Speaker 2:
See, okay, that makes sense, we're like I.
Speaker 1:
It's mostly all reds, but if I, if I buy a white wine, it's for me. I know that in my friends whatever.
Speaker 2:
Yeah so, but I need to buy more whites, Even though.
Speaker 1:
I've been trying to get her on the white wine trying to use, not on it, so I'm like whatever.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, um, I love, love, love them. Um, I also really like Lada.
Speaker 1:
So Bainbridge.
Speaker 2:
Eagle Harbor Lada.
Speaker 1:
Eagle Harbor is that's what their name is. Eagle Harbor, lada, lada, jane, jane. And then I'll throw in Lada is in Soto. Soto, yes, they're doing great things and really I meant to go hang out with them when I was in Soto when I was doing the Chris Horn podcast.
Speaker 2:
But I never got a chance. Honestly, everybody in Soto is wonderful. I love slay the hands, I love roti, I love cartes. Um, all of them are great, yeah. And then what else do I? Who else do I really? I mean, you know, cardis is up there, yeah, we're big supporters of Cardis on the pod. Yeah, Amos Rome is up there.
Speaker 1:
Yes.
Speaker 2:
They do a wonderful job.
Speaker 1:
Especially if you like white wines and bubbles, they're really good.
Speaker 2:
So good, yeah, they're white Pinot Noir. Talking about that with a customer today and it's really good. It's unique.
Speaker 1:
Not a lot of people do that. It's pretty unique.
Speaker 2:
It's so unique, it's so wonderful, it's one that I buy like a case of, yeah, and I love it Big fan. But again we're going down that white path and honestly, you've been on a white wine train lately. I have been on a white. Honestly, I think it's the weather.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, it's, weather's changing to warmer right now.
Speaker 2:
It's warmer, even light reds.
Speaker 1:
I'm on a big, I'll drink any wine, any day of the year. But, yeah, usually in the wintertime I go to, but I'm noticing myself, go into the white rosé and light red. Right.
Speaker 2:
Like that's just, I'm noticing.
Speaker 1:
And Okay, so you named off a bunch, so I can't choose the ones that you named off.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Because I agree with you, except for the first one, because I don't know who they are.
Speaker 2:
I've never.
Speaker 1:
I've never tasted their wines, so I can't agree on that.
Speaker 2:
Yes.
Speaker 1:
I've never had them. That's the only reason I've had all the other ones and they're awesome. So you said what's it called Eagle Harbor?
Speaker 2:
Eagle Harbor. Eagle Harbor, bainbridge, bainbridge Island winery.
Speaker 1:
Is that the same thing as Eagle Harbor? Nope, okay, so they're different. Where's Eagle Harbor?
Speaker 2:
On Bainbridge.
Speaker 1:
On Bainbridge, and then there's also Bainbridge winery, bainbridge Island winery, so I haven't had those two.
Speaker 2:
There's a couple on Bainbridge. Okay, yes.
Speaker 1:
That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2:
So one year for my birthday, I, my parents, got me a golf cart and they drove me to all the wineries on the island. I don't know why it was a golf cart, because that was probably super illegal, but because it's still a pretty big island it depends I mean it's still.
Speaker 1:
I mean Orange County has Balboa Island.
Speaker 2:
Well, it's still. It's a quote unquote.
Speaker 1:
It's not.
Speaker 2:
it's not like Bainbridge size, but Well, let's just say, by the end of the night I was hammered, and then I wanted to have a onesie party because that sounds fun, and I was a unicorn the rest of the night.
Speaker 1:
Nice, so it's Eagle Harbor, Bainbridge winery, Lada Cartus.
Speaker 2:
We'll say Amos Rome.
Speaker 1:
Amos Rome.
Speaker 2:
So I can't pick those ones.
Speaker 1:
So I can't pick those. So I'm going to dip in a little bit to California, because that's kind of where my winemaking roots are.
Speaker 2:
That's your stomping grounds.
Speaker 1:
I would recommend, if you like, sera a lot Jaffers.
Speaker 2:
Oh God, see these are the ones. I haven't been to. Oh, I guess I have been to Walla Walla too. I always forget, like Goose Ridge.
Speaker 1:
So I'll pick two from California. Last three will be Washington.
Speaker 2:
See, this is such a terrible question for me, but I'm like it's a hard one.
Speaker 1:
It's like top five that are live for hip hop rappers and stuff.
Speaker 2:
I also feel like you've gone to a lot more wineries than I have.
Speaker 1:
You have that's true, I have gone to a lot more than you have. I don't so much. That's fine, that's fine. So my top five is going to be Jaffers Go to do. You have to go there, Buy their wines. Anywhere you see them buy their wines, and then Carhartt Family Wines. Obviously you got to go.
Speaker 2:
You got to go.
Speaker 1:
You've got to go. You've had a bottle of theirs.
Speaker 2:
I bought it to you and two Vintners. I forgot about them.
Speaker 1:
Bro, let me get down with my list. Damn, you got you got to go to. She's just like naming off my list right now. Go to Latteris they're the bottle of the day for the podcast today. Go to Latteris and Maltbevault. Buy their wines. They're fucking awesome. Go to two Vintners they're right across the parking lot from them. They're awesome as well. We've had them, or their wines, on the podcast, not them on the podcast yet, although I'm hoping soon. And then I'm going to say, oh, this is so hard for me, this is difficult. Oh my God, there's so many. This is why it's so hard for me.
Speaker 2:
I know you said that and I was like, oh, I like this one, I like that though.
Speaker 1:
I mean definitely the walls. The walls is amazing, I love them. I also love Grammarcy, but I have to pick, so I'll say the walls over Grammarcy and then the last guy.
Speaker 2:
Wait. So how many have you had yet?
Speaker 1:
I've had four. So Jaffers, carhartt, two Vintners, the walls, oh shit, no, I'm at five already. I was going to say Damn. So I'm going to pick Carhartt, latteras, two Vintners, the walls. Those are my top five that you should buy.
Speaker 2:
Okay, there's 10 right there, people, and we spread out our range there.
Speaker 1:
So we did, we namedropped a bunch too.
Speaker 2:
Yes, so go support them. It's a big topic, it needs to be, and it doesn't hurt. Go support all them. Go wine tasting, even if it's one winery.
Speaker 1:
Exactly so. We should switch topics because we're running out of time, so let's switch topics to what you got going on. This will be a longer episode, which is fine. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2:
Or do we want to roll it over to?
Speaker 1:
Patreon.
Speaker 2:
Patreon.
Speaker 1:
We keep on doing this, we sneak I know. But you know what we sneak the topics in the beginning that we're going to be talking about, and then we run out of time and we go to Patreon.
Speaker 2:
So you know what? Go to Patreon and purchase baby. Yeah, Support us so we can get more on, or also what you can do.
Speaker 1:
what we started doing was chill out. That's fucking up, though. What you can also do if you don't want to pay for Patreon and the reason is because you listened to it on Spotify or Apple Music. We are releasing those episodes for a subscriber only on both Spotify, apple Music and Google Podcast, so you can subscribe for a little less than a Patreon to get an extra episode a week. So go to, you know, click the link in the show notes. We're going to have it there so you can subscribe to those and get your extra episode as well.
Speaker 2:
But also if you can afford $5, we would love it. It helps us yeah.
Speaker 1:
I mean what you can do with a subscriber. With a subscriber, one is it is, the base is like $3, but you can pick whatever payment that you want. I mean you know so five would be amazing $5 really goes a long way for someone. That's what I would ask $5.
Speaker 2:
$5. You don't need to be $20 at our top one. You don't need to be part of the OG crew, yeah, but like you can help us out, like if you're enjoying these podcasts, like not to be like a snobby little bitch, but you know we work hard, we're trying. Yeah, we're a small business. We are a small business Trying to just make it bitches.