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The Truth About Salt: Health, Myths, and Benefits with Samantha Skyring

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Could salt be the key to unlocking optimal health? In this riveting episode, we challenge the conventional wisdom vilifying salt and discover its essential role in hydration, cellular function, and mental clarity. Drawing on insights from Dr. James DiNicolantonio's "The Salt Fix" and Dr. Zach Bush, we expose the sugar industry's role in salt's negative reputation and emphasize the profound differences between harmful table salt and beneficial natural salts like Oryx Desert Salt. Get ready to rethink everything you thought you knew about salt and its impact on your well-being.

We'll also uncover recent studies on the symbiotic relationship between salt and water, from shark behaviour influenced by cocaine to the potential health benefits of structured water as explored by Dr. Masaru Emoto. Hear personal stories on how switching to Oryx Desert Salt has enhanced sleep quality and overall health. We debunk myths linking salt consumption directly to heart disease and high blood pressure, pointing the finger at processed foods as the real culprits behind these health issues.

Journey with us to the Kalahari Desert and learn about the inspiring origins of Oryx Desert Salt, a brand committed not just to providing a high-quality product but also to making a positive impact on marginalized communities through initiatives that support the Khoisan Bushmen. Discover practical tips for incorporating quality salt into your daily routines and its surprising benefits for pregnant mothers, those experiencing PMS, and during fasting. This episode is your comprehensive guide to reclaiming the value of salt for a healthier, happier life.

TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction and Misconceptions About Salt
01:19 The History and Importance of Salt
02:22 The Problem with Table Salt
05:10 The Benefits of Oryx Desert Salt
08:16 Environmental and Health Concerns with Sea Salt
15:40 Practical Uses and Personal Experiences with Salt
27:30 The Journey of Oryx Desert Salt
30:54 Community Impact and Future Projects
35:14 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Guest Details:
Samantha has diverse experience, from refurbishing the interiors of corporate jets, founded a kayaking expedition company in Malawi, Founded 20,000 Drums a transformational workshop for 30,000 children across South Africa. She also travelled extensively, one experience of which was her 5-month journey in Namibia where she walked 75miles / 7 days through the Namib Desert and had close encounters with the beautiful elusive Oryx Gazelle, which became the inspiration for the Oryx Desert Salt brand.

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Speaker 1:

Samantha hi. What are people getting wrong about salt consumption?

Speaker 2:

Unfortunately, salt's been very vilified and demonized over the years. I love what Dr James DeNicolantonio says in his book called the Salt Fix, that the wrong white crystal got the bad rap. So the sugar industry almost put the limelight and the spotlight on salt because they didn't want to take responsibility. So salt is actually third most important to the body after oxygen and water. If you end up in hospital, the first thing they do is they put you on a saline drip. Your tears are salty, your blood is salty Salt.

Speaker 2:

And let me differentiate Table salt does not fall into the salt category. Table salt should be illegal and should not be allowed on a supermarket shelf. It is not salt. It comes from salt, but it's highly refined, processed, industrialized, demineralized, bleached, heated, and so it is actually not what the original salt, which has its component of minerals and trace elements and all salt does, actually, except for table salt, in beautiful different balances and unique proportions. But like wine, each one has its own special profile.

Speaker 2:

So the fact that a thousand years ago salt was equivalent to its worth in gold almost tells you how valuable it was, and it allowed people to travel the world because we were able to preserve fish and meat and vegetables, and so it gave us the possibility to travel distances, and because of that, we were actually eating a whole lot more salt than we are now. In fact, I think the FDA's whatever it's called RDA Recommended Daily Allowance says five grams of sodium, which is actually 13 grams of salt, but most people confuse the sodium to the salt and we're actually not probably having enough of it so can you talk a bit about the history of that, why it was just the sugar industry that demonized salt, or because there must be some science behind it that people have got wrong and misinterpreted?

Speaker 2:

uh, it started in about 1910 when Morton see how it pours, the start of the convenience, the food convenience era. Look, ladies, it doesn't. And then some idiot decided to put it into a. So actually table salt is industrial salt. So PVC, c stands for chloride, so salt is a binding agent and it goes into paint, it goes into plastic.

Speaker 2:

So then they were, because they were making such huge volumes, let's put it on a supermarket shelf and I think we're very trusting beings. So we're like oh, it's there, so it must be okay. No, definitely not. And then Dr Zach Bush I don't know if you're aware of him, he. Then Dr Zach Bush, I don't know if you're aware of him, he, beautiful human, he planted a seed, he was talking.

Speaker 2:

The fact is, if you're having table salt, your brain isn't even functioning correctly because you really need that salt medium. Your cells, your intercellular fluid need to have a certain balance of salt with the minerals and trace elements. So kind of 1910, bit of the start of the Industrial Revolution. It didn't really want people to be awake and switched on and asking questions. So it actually dials the mind and dials one's thinking. We've actually got a beautiful article on our website four ways rethinking salt four ways and how. Eating a complete whole food, salt which hasn't been tainted and touched or had various toxic chemicals. What's it? Ferrum, cyanide and alumilin silicate. Does that sound like something the body wants?

Speaker 2:

The anti-caking and free flow chemicals having that whole food, the body and the brain. So if you're actually feeling a little bit pup at the end of the day, have a glass of water, put a sprinkle of salt in it and you will most probably find that you pick your energy levels and your thinking picks up.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So why do we need salt then? What's it doing for us, when you say it's picking us up?

Speaker 2:

So salt's intrinsic value to the body is to actually help us stay hydrated. So salt is an electrolyte to the body. And that's what's so sad about table salt, because if you were to put a saucer of table salt and a saucer of Oryx Desert Salt, Oryx would absorb moisture and after a day or two it will be wet, whereas table salt would be perfectly dry. But that's what salt's value is to the body and its essential function is to help us stay hydrated completely and to keep the balance of minerals and trace elements in our blood, in our cellular and cells and intercellular fluid.

Speaker 1:

You mentioned it there, but you've got a particular salt called Oryx salt, spelled O-R-Y-X. Can you tell us what is special about Oryx salt?

Speaker 2:

Thank you. Oryx comes from a very special place in Southern Africa, from the Kalahari Desert. It is a region which is 900,000 square kilometers, which is, I think, 20 times the size of Britain, one and a half times the size of Texas, and our salt pan is 50 square kilometers or 5,000 hectares. So you wouldn't see someone standing on the other side, and they discovered underground what seems like a lake. It's an aquifer of 55 million tons of saltwater or brine. It is also renewable and sustainable, as it has these three subterranean streams that are constantly replenishing this aquifer. And the other phenomenon is that when we pour it up onto the salt pan, one, it has not been touched by human hands, because the closest town is 175 miles or 250 kilometers away, and two is that it is oversaturated, so it's a little bit like the Dead Sea, and so in summer the temperature reaches 120 degrees Fahrenheit, 50 degrees Celsius, and so the salt water crystallizes in only four weeks. So in one lunar cycle, under the stars, the desert wind and the hot African sun, it crystallizes into these pure white crystals. We add nothing and we take nothing away.

Speaker 2:

And I had an incredible experience last year we went up to the salt pan to film, a little documentary. So if you go onto our website you'll see some beautiful drone footage. And even we were gifted and it really was a gift, because thunderstorms in the Kalahari are quite rare and we were gifted the most epic supercharged thunderstorm, with lightning and double rainbows. It was just like it was like okay, wow. And what it made me realize is that Oryx Desert Salt is actually supercharged and activated by the elements. Dr masiru, immortals work around water, having memory and having intelligence, so the only what our extensive salt has been exposed to is the elements. And then we, we bottle it and we put it and that's literally what you're sprinkling onto your food yeah, that's that's fascinating.

Speaker 3:

It's almost like a onto your food. Yeah, that's fascinating. It's almost like a Disney story. This could be a movie or something. The elements of how this stuff is created by magic and lightning and things like that. That's fascinating. So you mentioned this salt is not touched by human hands. Why is that important? And yeah, I'm leading on to the question about plastics and plastics and salt.

Speaker 2:

So tell us more about plastics and why not being touched by humanity is important um, the quantity of plastic in oceans now is reaching the trillions of tons, and so all plastic breaks down into its little micro form and they're called microbeads. And so when any sea salt is drawn up out of the ocean, invariably it is going to have plastic in it. And in fact, if you were to Google salt and plastic, you'll be horrified at how many university studies, how many articles National Geographic have done a piece that I think 38 out of 39 sea salts tested from 20 countries all had microbead plastic in them. So plastic is obviously an endocrine disruptor. We definitely don't want it in our system and unfortunately it would almost be the same color. So if you're consuming sea salt, you're possibly probably consuming a some amount of plastic as well as what we've.

Speaker 2:

Um, for 10 years we've been spearheading a grinder head that has a ceramic mechanism and so that ceramic will never wear out, and I've had a couple we did a newsletter a couple of months ago and the subject was stop buying our grinders. Yes, exactly, buy it once and then just keep refilling. So our hashtag is refill, not landfill. But the other important piece is that it's not grinding plastic into your food, because every other grinder on shelf is polycarb or plastic, and those teeth are made of plastic, and so when you're grinding that, your salt, over your food, you're also grinding plastic teeth into your food and eating it and throwing it away, buying another one. And then I sadly got another piece of information from a marine biologist at Dave Asprey's biohacking conference. He actually makes some products from oysters and he did testing and he discovered that some of them had opioids and contraceptives in them. Pharmaceutical contamination is a real thing now too. Cruise liners dump 1 billion tons of sewage into the oceans every single year, so the oceans are not what they used to be, and so hence I say oryx comes from a region the closest town is 250 kilometers away. The lodge that I stay at five kilometers, three miles away, track their fresh water 175 miles, so that region is uninhabitable and therefore unpolluted and untouched. And I've really I'm coming more and more to understand the resonance and the frequency.

Speaker 2:

Dr Mysterio Immortal's work and is another beautiful human I haven't met yet or had a conversation with I'm really looking forward to. It is Veda Austin, and she's been working with water for many years and understanding its intelligence, and I actually did my first experiment about two weekends ago, this crystallography. I don't know if you've ever done it, so I took I didn't have a Petri dish, but I took a glass lid of a glass jar and I put some spring water in and then I put it onto an RX Desert Salt box. I should have had one here to show you this beautiful masked creature, the RX, which for real actually has a heart on the top of its head, and I left it there for 20 minutes and we chatted and then we went and put it into the freezer and dinkum for real. When we took it out, this frozen lid with the water has a head and horns in it.

Speaker 2:

So the water has absorbed and it's just sitting on it. So that was like that's blowing my mind. And then we did another experiment where we just put spring water and then a crystal of auric salt in it and to me it looks like the moon, like the shapes, and there was some sort of gray, and I talk about the fact that it's got this lunar energy in it, and I really think it looks like the moon, wow yeah, quite fascinating, magical.

Speaker 3:

And yeah, the plastics. Going back to that, I don't know if you saw, but in the ocean they found in sharks. There was evidence of cocaine in the sharks, that the sharks had ingested cocaine. So you may maybe all downsides, but maybe there's an upside that we could get free cocaine from a certain type of water. Maybe if we went and harvested some salt from the between Cuba and Miami, maybe the water there is just cocaine what don't get cocaine. That's bad.

Speaker 3:

I'm joking the other thing so I the research on structured water and the Emoto Star Fed. I find that really interesting. But what I haven't seen I don't know if you've seen it or not and certainly if this isn't your area of expertise, move on. But I get that structured water. It looks better under a microscope, but is there any actual evidence of it helping the body? I know they talk about exclusion zones and things like that, but is there any difference between the drinking, the beautiful crystal water that's been structured and remineralized, and just ugly old water? I haven't seen any research there, have you?

Speaker 2:

I haven't specifically, but from almost a logical sense, when you have a look at the crystalline structure of water that's had a positive intention or word placed on it, versus water that has no form. I can only imagine that the one is in fact hoping to have a conversation with Dr Zach Bush and I really believe he's going to be able to add a little piece of the puzzle, because I feel like there's from that. We are light beings and we're also energetic beings, so I believe there's an activation of sorts from having products from a pure source. And in fact I actually had Oryx tested, the resonance tested, with South Africa's top kinesiologist, dr Kromhout.

Speaker 2:

He teaches craniosacral students and I took table salt and I took sea salt and I took Oryx salt and the table salt was very low at 150, but it's 150 to the power of 10. The sea salt was 180, I think, or 190. And Oryx salt was 220. And when you do it to the power of 10, it becomes significantly a much greater number. If we start talking about energy and I think I love the biohacking space and community for that and Einstein said the future of medicine is frequency. So if we start looking at from an energetic frequency perspective, then if it's got more energy, it's going to feed our mitochondria, it's gonna. It's gonna feed our whole energetic system yeah, I think you're probably right.

Speaker 1:

I just yeah, I'm hoping someone will prove that in a rigorous scientific study I'll have to look for that I've got a pretty basic question, but you mentioned earlier, some people get confused with salt consumption and it's been misconstrued with sodium. How much is there an easy way to measure your optimal salt consumption? Obviously on the assumption you're using Oryx.

Speaker 2:

So I had quite an interesting personal experience recently when I got back from I did seven trade shows in seven locations over seven weeks and 70 hours of flying, and unfortunately, while I was traveling, I was eating really badly, so I was eating a lot of refined, processed and restaurant meals and what have you. Anyway, I landed back, went straight to my organic veggie shop, bought some beautiful ethical meat and I made myself an eight liter pot of lamb stew, but there's only so much salt one puts into a stew. Anyways, for the first three, four days I was pretty wired at night and I wasn't sleeping properly. And we recently did an interview with somebody that I met at a networking lunch and he had been an insomniac for 25 years until he started taking a teaspoon of auric salt in the evening and a teaspoon of auric salt in the morning, and for the first time in his adult life he started sleeping and I was like, ok, let's try this out. So I took a teaspoon of salt, mixed it with honey, so it's quite an interesting sweet, salty flavor. And by the second night, I remember on the third morning, I was like I don't remember falling asleep last night and I slept a full night through and I'm actually now taking a teaspoon every evening, and I've had a couple of people have profound similar experiences where they've been insomniacs and they're now sleeping.

Speaker 2:

My sense always is to come back to the body's intelligence. If you're craving salt, trust your body, trust the intelligence and your body's communication with you. If you're wanting it, have it. So I always say that Oryx is a guilt-free salt. Have as much as you want and I believe, because we're actually not having enough salt, if we start picking up our salt levels, there's another study in having more salt and suddenly little glitches of Achilles, tendons and various other things start minimizing that the body can repair itself more. So I think for each of us to experiment and to please share the feedback yeah, so salt?

Speaker 3:

we had a discussion of salt on a previous episode with a nutritionist who's very pro salt and very aligned with what you said, and then we got a the longest comment in a youtube video in history. It was like a full academic paper with the references and bibliography and everything.

Speaker 1:

We didn't go back to the guy, but maybe I was leaving it to you and you were leaving it to me no, I left it to dorian.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, dorian. So which was the nutritionist who was on? But this, yeah, this paper was. Dorian basically said the idea that salt is bad for you is correlation, not causation. Ie, people who have higher sodium intakes they had more likely to have high blood pressure and have heart disease. But Dorian was positing that's just because people who eat really unhealthy diets full of ready meals and mcdonald's and things like that, they're eating salt comes with that. But it's not salt that's causing the heart disease and the blood pressure, it's the junk food, it's the ultra processed food. But then this guy came back with several references saying no, it's not. It's not correlation, cause, causation, yeah, and then he starts talking about mandalian randomization and he lost me. But basically, why do people think, yeah, what's your take on that? On the blood pressure and the salt and the heart disease?

Speaker 2:

the one thing that I find interesting is that table salt is the one of the cheapest things you can buy, actually, if you think what you pay for it and how long it lasts you. And I really believe it's because it has no value to our bodies. Exactly, most of us were brought up on a table salt, not thinking about what it was doing to our bodies or what we were not giving our bodies. What's interesting is that sodium and this is from a cardiac researcher, dr James de Nicolantonio is that sodium is the most important mineral for the heart. So doctors who are putting their patients onto a low-sodium diet are actually counter it's totally counterintuitive to what the heart is needing.

Speaker 2:

And there's an interesting basis that table salt because one it's heated up to 1,200 degrees Celsius, so it's absolutely.

Speaker 2:

It's got no water in it at all. Plus it's got no minerals. So when you're having that, the body is actually the body is like this living. It's this living body of movement and in order for our blood to be a certain salinity, if the table salt has no minerals, the body is leaching out minerals into the table salt and that's then going to put pressure in our blood system and that can cause blood pressure issues. So having a product that is so against what our body is able to absorb utilize for our health, against what our body is able to absorb utilize for our health, it's going to have a ripple effect in various ways, and I'm not a doctor, so this is my researching reading and this is a little bit of a lay sharing of that concept. We have an article on our website, drink less water and eat more salt, and there's a very interesting some research in there that explains this, maybe with more of a technical angle okay, drink less water, eat more salt.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I do the the salt in the morning, first thing in the morning. What does that look like? It looks like a teaspoon of salt.

Speaker 3:

Sometimes I use kinton hypertonic, which is like sea minerals. I don't know if you know that sometimes I'll use relights, which has like yeah, it's an electrolyte, but sometimes I just put the while I'm traveling. I'm just putting oryx salt, because you gave us these really nice little mini oryx shakers that are amazing for travel as a free gift and they're made out of paper as well, so plastics there. So I put a bit of that in with some molecular hydrogen first thing in the morning and that's keeping me hydrated in the Northern tip of Africa.

Speaker 2:

Fantastic. So anytime you have water your bottle of water, if it's hot and you're filling it up and taking it with you, just put a sprinkle of Oryx in it, as you're doing, because that actually shifts the water into an electrolyte and that allows the body to utilize the water more for hydration so hence the less water and more salt and is that also?

Speaker 3:

I've heard that, um, tap water is so dead and devoid of nutrients that when you drink it because it doesn't have any salts, it actually looks for minerals and strips you of your own minerals. So mineralizing it with salt is the right thing to do. Is that your understanding as well, samantha?

Speaker 1:

yeah absolutely available is oryx? Is it global?

Speaker 2:

in the us. We're available in all whole foods. Um, we're about to launch in the uk which I'm very excited towards, the sort of about nove, and we will put a store locator on our website. There's also we have a brother company and it's called in the UK called Repower. So it is an electrolyte 1000 milligrams of sodium, 200 milligrams of potassium, 100 milligrams of magnesium and it is powered by Oryx Desert Salt. So the main ingredient is this beautiful quality salt and that's readily available in the UK on their website, GetRepower. And yeah, you could search for it and that's a beautiful. I actually can't drink water anymore without it and just knowing that I'm getting the quantity of sodium and magnesium and potassium in the balance, that is being very well researched for the body to use.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that ratio one gram of sodium to was it 200 potassium and magnesium that's quite a controversial one because there's another, a very famous brand of electrolytes that I won't mention. But they they were the first to go that high with with sodium and really are trying to change the narrative that it's more salt, not less. I've got it on my bottle. I won't show it because it's another brand. But yeah, I'm glad you're using that same ratio as well and, I hope, is it repower they? Are they available in the us?

Speaker 2:

not in the us yet, but they'll follow through.

Speaker 1:

I'll bring you some out, and you've got to bring me some Oryx. Yes, okay.

Speaker 3:

Okay, a few more nerdy questions then. Should pregnant mothers eat salt?

Speaker 2:

Brilliant question.

Speaker 2:

Pregnant mums require apparently 30% more blood volume as well as the amniotic fluid, and so the fascinating miracle of the body is that pregnant mums' taste for salt essentially gets cut completely.

Speaker 2:

So they don't have a barometer of things being salty, and that is the body's intelligence of saying eat as much of salt as you want, because it's needing that additional in order to create the blood for the little bubba that's growing and for the amniotic fluid.

Speaker 2:

So I haven't done much research and probably the doctors are saying keep to a low salt diet when you're pregnant, which is really not a good thing and it makes complete sense. Obviously the mom is creating this beautiful space for this new human to develop in and it's going to need the blood and the amniotic to live in. And what a beautiful time of our lives those first nine months before we arrive in the world. So absolutely, and also for women menstruating, the couple of days before, leading up to and during their menstruation as well, because there is that loss of blood, and so also to increase their salt consumption, and some women who have a hard time, it might be a very interesting experiment to do that and see if it creates less pain and less chaos in yeah, in your hormones and in your whole state of being actually okay, so salt can help with PMS as well as all these other things.

Speaker 3:

Okay, good to know, and can it help me fasting?

Speaker 2:

Fasting. Definitely there's quite a few different schools of thought when I fast and generally I do sort of an 18-6 hour intermittent fasting. I don't think I would struggle if I wasn't having my revive with my sodium and in fact I've done longer fasts. In fact I've done up to a 23 day fast and again, in fact it was quite an interesting experience because at the end of the 23 days I almost felt like I was becoming a breatharian. I didn't want to eat but I realized that it was time. So absolutely having salt while you're fasting is essential.

Speaker 1:

Going back to the beginning of the story, can you talk a bit about the journey that you went on to create Oryx Soul?

Speaker 2:

So it happened in two parts, but there's been some really magical, pivotal moments in the journey with Oryx. It feels like there's been a lot of magic and the first magic was before I even conceptualized a business, was before I even conceptualized a business and I was traveling Namibia, which, if you haven't been, is really an incredible experience. There's just a lot of sand and a lot of sky and a lot of space, but really beautiful. And I ended up walking 120 kilometers or 75 miles through the Namib Desert and I had close encounters with this beautiful Oryx gazelle. And so, years later, when I had the opportunity to brand salt from the Kalahari because the Oryx are endemic to the Kalahari Desert Actually there's a southern Oryx and then there's a northern African Oryx, which is so Qatar Airlines Qatar, it's the national animal and Oman and Bahrain they've got the. It's a scimitar oryx, it's slightly different, but when I wanted to brand the salt from the Kalahari, this beautiful masked creature with these exquisite horns and the heart on its head became my logo of choice and then got a really interesting fact some years later that apparently the oryx can go certainly years, and sometimes their whole life, without drinking water, but they can't go weeks without licking salt, because it's so essential for their survival in the hot conditions. It helps them stay hydrated and the minerals and trace elements are so necessary and vital. And their hair is hydroscopic and so apparently it's microscopic straws and it's hydroscopic so it absorbs the moisture and the desert dew at nighttime and they hydrate hypodermically, which is another miracle.

Speaker 2:

And then, some years later, a colleague. He had actually been looking for a food product that had a spiritual quality to it, and salt's in the Bible, I think, 39 or 49 times. It's in almost every culture and religion is a lot of ritual around salt, and so he was selling the salt from the Kalahari in bulk and he didn't want to create a product. And I had just come out of a journey of. I had an NGO for seven years facilitating children drumming across South Africa, but it was a 2007-2008 financial crash and there was no corporate funding for feel-good, emotional, spiritual upliftment projects, and so I was on the lookout for something new and I started eating the salt from the Kalahari and was gifting it to friends and I just felt really called to start sharing it and so then created the product and one little retail shop at a time. I started packing grinders on my dining room table. And now, 14 years later, we national in the USA and going global wow, so salt is sacred.

Speaker 3:

That's who knew. And then can you tell us a bit about how Oryx Desert's salt affected the local community?

Speaker 2:

I guess from my previous journey of making a difference in communities, it felt for me from the very get-go that giving back was an important component. And the Kalahari Desert is a region where the Khoisan Bushmen used to roam freely and then, through our terrible years of apartheid, they were marginalized and there were fences put up in the areas and so their primary way of living, of hunting and looking for, was essentially taken away from them. And so there's a beautiful organization called Transfrontier Parks Destination and they have a foundation, and so we've donated from the very beginning to this foundation in support of the Khoisan. And then I'm very excited that I am partnering and collaborating and have an alliance with Project Biome, and it was partly inspired by Dr Zach Bush he's one of the ambassadors and it's a beautiful project regenerating people and the planet, predominantly focused on South Africa and communities around South Africa, and so all the proceeds from the USA are going to be going back into Project Biome and sales from South Africa and the rest of the world will be still supporting the Khoisan communities and as well as making a difference to this beautiful team.

Speaker 2:

So I started off just me, and now I have a team of 20 people and at the moment, we're reading Robin Sharma's book Wealth Money Can't Buy, so we have storytelling every Wednesday and it just inspires the seven other forms of wealth, according to Robin. Besides, financial wealth is only one of them. And they recently also completed a three-month parenting course called Love and Logic, because I was having a really hard time with my teenager, who you can't hear gaming in the other room, and I was just sharing with them. We get together once a week and I was sharing how I was battling and they all said they were bad Parents were all just winging it, and the kids these days seem to be very outspoken, and obviously the whole digital generation, and so I brought in some facilitators and it's just been the most beautiful thing that I've done, because it's an incredible touch point. Sometimes I found it difficult to where to connect with my team.

Speaker 2:

We live such different lives. They come from very disadvantaged communities. Some of them live in tin shacks, and where's that relating point? But parents are parents. We're all facing the same challenges lives. They come from very disadvantaged communities. Some of them live in tin shacks, and where's that relating point? But parents are parents. We're all facing the same challenges and there's been some really beautiful stories that have come out of their experience and their now different way of communicating and building relationships with their children. So that's been amazing and lots more to come in that space with their children.

Speaker 3:

So that's been amazing and lots more to come in that space. Amazing sounds like an incredible company, an incredible story doing, yeah, much more than just salt. I expect people would have just thought how are you going to talk about salt for an hour? Yeah, there's a lot more to it than I think people realize and hopefully people have learned a lot from this. Yeah, you've told us we were going to ask you about new projects and timelines, but it sounds like you've got you've already filled us in with that. So how do people find you?

Speaker 2:

so oryx desert salt oryx desert with one s not desert salt dot com and on instagram. But if you pop a message on on inquiries on the website, depending on where you are, I can, you can reach out. There are a partners page on our website as well. The different countries that we're available in amazon in the us. Amazon will be coming on in the uk as well. So, yeah, I'm doing my best to get it out to as many people as possible going global, as you said.

Speaker 1:

Good on you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's exciting. It's a beautiful journey.

Speaker 1:

It has been no well, best of luck with all of it. It's such a pure company, from the product itself, from your intentions and the magic behind it, so it's amazing to hear the story and best of luck.

Speaker 2:

Thank you super and just something that's just landed just to share to everyone is just really trust yourselves. Gabby Bernstein at the Biohacking was like check in with yourself instead of checking out. And salt is so vital for our health and our well-being. Indoctrination aside, if you're sensing a need for more salty products, just be mindful of which salt you're taking in, but trust yourself and trust your body I think there might be some people who go.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I trust I do need another big mac, so we should be clear. If you've been listening this long, you'll know we're not talking about big macs or doing the toes and things. So good quality oryx salt from now on absolutely uh excellent.

Speaker 2:

Thank you thanks a lot.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. Take care bye yeah, no, him.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So why do we need salt then? What's it doing for us? When you say it's picking us up, okay, yeah, that's fascinating, it's almost like a Disney story. This could be a movie or something, with all the elements of how this stuff is created by magic and lightning and things like that. That's fascinating. So you mentioned this. Salt is not touched by human hands. Why is that important? And yeah, I'm leading on to the question about plastics and plastics and salt. So tell us more about plastics and why not being touched by humanity is important. Wow, wow Sounds magical, yeah, fascinating, magical. And yeah, the plastics.

Speaker 3:

Going back to that, I don't know if you saw, but in the ocean that they found in sharks, there was evidence of cocaine in the sharks, that the sharks had ingested cocaine. So you may be all downsides, but maybe there's an upside that we could get free cocaine from the certain type of water. Maybe if we went and harvested some salt between Cuba and Miami, maybe the water there is just cocaine. No, don't do cocaine, that's bad, we're joking. The other thing. So the research on structured water and the Emoto staff.

Speaker 3:

I find that really interesting.

Speaker 3:

But, what I haven't seen. I don't know if you've seen it or not, and certainly if this isn't your area of expertise, move on. But I get that structured water. It looks better under a microscope, but is there any actual evidence? It looks better under a microscope, but is there any actual evidence of it helping the body? I know they talk about exclusion zones and things like that, but is there any difference between the drinking, the beautiful crystal water that's been structured and remineralized, and just ugly old water? I haven't seen any research there, have you? Yeah, I think you're probably right, I just yeah, I'm hoping someone will prove that in a rigorous scientific study. Yeah, so salt?

Speaker 3:

We had a discussion of salt on a previous episode with a nutritionist who's very pro-salt and very aligned with what you said, and then we got a the longest comment in a youtube uh video in history. It was like a full academic paper with the references and bibliography and everything. We didn't go back to the guy but maybe he'll listen. No, I left it to dorian and he doesn't work with us. So, yeah, dorian soans was the nutritionist who was on, but this paper was. Dorian basically said the idea that salt is bad for you is correlation, not causation, ie people who have higher sodium intakes. They had more likely to have high blood pressure and have heart disease. But Dorian was positing that's just because people who eat really unhealthy diets full of ready meals and McDonald's and things like that they're eating salt comes with that. But it's not salt that's causing the heart disease and the blood pressure, it's the junk food, it's the ultra processed food. But then this guy came back with several references saying, no, it's not correlation causation. And then he starts talking about mandalian randomization and he lost me. But basically, why do people think, yeah, what's your take on that, on the blood pressure and the salt and the heart disease? Okay, drink less water, eat more salt.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I do, I do the the salt in the morning first thing in the morning salt it looks like a teaspoon of salt. Sometimes I use kinton hypertonic, which is like sea minerals. I don't know if you know that. Sometimes I'll use relights, which has like, yeah, it's an electrolyte, but sometimes I just put the while I'm traveling. I'm just putting oryx salt, because you gave us these really nice little mini oryx shakers that are amazing for travel as a free gift and they're made out of paper as well, so no plastics there, so I put a bit of that in with some molecular hydrogen first thing in the morning and that that's keeping me hydrated in on the northern tip of africa. Yeah, and is that also?

Speaker 3:

I've heard that, um, tap water is so dead and devoid of nutrients that when you drink it because it doesn't have any salts, it actually looks for minerals and strips you of your own minerals. So mineralizing it with salt is the right thing to do. Is that your understanding as well, samantha? Yes, excellent, okay, great. Yeah, that ratio one gram of sodium to was it 200 potassium and magnesium is that's. That's quite a controversial one, because there's another, a very famous brand of electrolytes that I won't mention, but they they was the first to go that high with with sodium and really are trying to change the narrative that it's more salt, not less. I've got it on my bottle. I won't show it because it's another brand, but yeah, I'm glad you're using that same ratio as well and I hope.

Speaker 3:

Is it repower? Are they available in the US? There you go, andy. There's one thing. Okay, great, yes, okay, okay.

Speaker 3:

A few more nerdy questions then. Should pregnant mothers eat salt? So salt can help with PMS as well as as all these other things. Okay, good to know. And can it help me fasting? Wow, so salt is sacred. That's who knew.

Speaker 3:

And then can you tell us a bit about how Oryx Desert Salt affected the local community? Amazing Sounds like an incredible company, an incredible story Doing yeah, much more than just salt. I expect people would have just thought how are you going to talk about salt for an hour? Yeah, there's a lot more to it than I think people realize and hopefully people have learned a lot from this. Yeah, you've told us we were going to ask you about new projects and timelines, but it sounds like you've already filled us in with that. So how do people find you all? Right, I think there might be some people who go yeah, I trust I do need another big mac. So we should be clear that, not that kind of salt, right? If you've been listening this long, you'll know we're not talking about big macs or doritos and things. So good quality Oryx salt from now on. All right, great. Thanks a lot, samantha Cheers.