Get ready to transform your business model by unlocking the hidden potential of government contracts! Join us on a fascinating journey with Kevin Jennings, the savvy founder of Government Cheese, as we uncover how navigating the sea of federal spending can be your next business breakthrough. From tapping into booming sectors like solar energy to understanding the Prompt Payment Act's role in securing your cash flow, we're cutting through the red tape to bring you actionable insights. If you've ever doubted the speed of government payouts or the opportunities within this market, prepare to have those myths dispelled in our candid conversation with Kevin.
Dive into the digital transformation of government marketing where old-school TV spots give way to viral TikToks and Instagram stories. It's a brave new world where even the most buttoned-up agencies are adopting the language of memes, and your business might just speak their lingo. We discuss the digital strategies that are reshaping how we connect with the government, and how you can position your offerings to be just what Uncle Sam ordered. Kevin and I break down why the public sector might be the most underrated client for your products or services, and how to navigate these uncharted waters for financial success.
Beyond the buzzworthy viral campaign lies the formidable challenge of sustaining success. That's why we're taking a hard look at what it takes to build a business that lasts. We stress the importance of mentorship, solid business foundations, and preparing for life after the initial hype. Kevin's journey from marketing everyday items to the military to becoming a thought leader in government contracting is more than inspiring—it's a blueprint for all entrepreneurs looking to make their mark in this lucrative field. So tune in, take notes, and get ready to craft an enterprise that stands the test of time with wisdom from the trenches of government contracting.
Get ready to transform your business model by unlocking the hidden potential of government contracts! Join us on a fascinating journey with Kevin Jennings, the savvy founder of Government Cheese, as we uncover how navigating the sea of federal spending can be your next business breakthrough. From tapping into booming sectors like solar energy to understanding the Prompt Payment Act's role in securing your cash flow, we're cutting through the red tape to bring you actionable insights. If you've ever doubted the speed of government payouts or the opportunities within this market, prepare to have those myths dispelled in our candid conversation with Kevin.
Dive into the digital transformation of government marketing where old-school TV spots give way to viral TikToks and Instagram stories. It's a brave new world where even the most buttoned-up agencies are adopting the language of memes, and your business might just speak their lingo. We discuss the digital strategies that are reshaping how we connect with the government, and how you can position your offerings to be just what Uncle Sam ordered. Kevin and I break down why the public sector might be the most underrated client for your products or services, and how to navigate these uncharted waters for financial success.
Beyond the buzzworthy viral campaign lies the formidable challenge of sustaining success. That's why we're taking a hard look at what it takes to build a business that lasts. We stress the importance of mentorship, solid business foundations, and preparing for life after the initial hype. Kevin's journey from marketing everyday items to the military to becoming a thought leader in government contracting is more than inspiring—it's a blueprint for all entrepreneurs looking to make their mark in this lucrative field. So tune in, take notes, and get ready to craft an enterprise that stands the test of time with wisdom from the trenches of government contracting.
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Speaker 1:Welcome to another episode of the LFG let's Fucking go show, where we're talking to entrepreneurs doing big shit on a daily basis, changing lives. I got a killer on here today. I'm fucking super excited because we're going to talk about some shit that no one's talking about. As far as I'm concerned, we're going to be talking about how do you make big money with the biggest spender of all the US government. So we're going to talk about that soon. I got Kevin Jennings. He's the owner and founder of Government Cheese Big, big, fucking numbers. Great to have you on the show, my man. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1:Let's get into it. Man, first and foremost. Listen, I'm in digital marketing. A lot of people watching is like why the fuck is David talking about the government? Blah, blah, blah. Listen, I spoke in Bangkok at Philly World in 2022, and I was talking about the hot verticals. How do you find hot verticals where you can make a lot of money? And one of my slides I had a big, massive wave and I said you want to make money and find where to do ads in and make money in it. It's the government. The government is a big, massive wave. You find out what they're spending money on, what they're promoting, and if you can generate leads in those verticals, you're going to kill it. First of all, we had solar Government's giving money for solar right, obamacare, affordable Care Act. They're trying to incentivize that. I know guys are doing $300,000, $400,000 a day on ACA calls right. We got Medicare. Every day, 10,000 people turn 65. That's the government. So the government's the biggest spender out there no-transcript.
Speaker 2:You got to think every other client that you got you could sell and sell and they could really want and they were like, man, I really need this, but I just ain't got the money. Right now, the government, if they really need it, they'll go print the money. So it's like I love them as a client.
Speaker 1:I love that because in my industry one of the issues is payment terms. Right, you might have a huge mega client, but they don't pay you to like 30 days later or 60 days later. So you could be spending a hundred grand a day. At the end of the month you spent 3 million on that client plus other clients, and before you know it you got five, six, $7 million old to you. And guess what happens? You got to wait 30, 45, 60 days, right? So with the government, I mean, and you got to worry if they're going to pay you back. There was a huge client in Medicare about a year and a half ago. They burned people millions of dollars, tens of millions, right, they went out of business. But, like you're saying, the government, they got to pay those dues, they got to print money. If they got to print money, they'll fucking do that, right?
Speaker 2:I tell you all the time as long as you provide the service, you're going to get paid, and what are payment terms with the government?
Speaker 1:Let's say, like I don't know, I'm selling some product. If I deliver them that product today or tomorrow, when do I expect to get paid? What are those contracts usually?
Speaker 2:like. So like if you're doing products, for example, literally as soon as they receive it. So the minute they receive the product that you were supposed to provide, you can start the payment clock, and typically on products it's three to seven business days, because typically on products they're going to pay you via credit card. Credit card or ACH is how they're going to pay you on products. If it's under a certain threshold and they can put it on a P-card, they'll put it on what they call P-card, which is a government credit card, and so it's literally the three-day processing time for a credit card transaction. If it's over credit card transaction size, then they'll ACH it. So then you're at that five to seven business day, just like a regular ACH. If you're doing services, services are typically on a net 30, unless you are a small business, which nine out of 12 people are a small business.
Speaker 1:What's the threshold, that's $5 million a year. What's the threshold?
Speaker 2:So it depends, so it's basically based on your NACE code. So whatever you classify yourself under from a business perspective, that's what's going to determine that. So, like for me, I'm in construction and my NACE code has a $45 million cap. So until I make over $45 million a year, I'm a small business. So if you're a small business, they have a thing called a prompt payment act, so you get paid in 14 days as a small business.
Speaker 2:That's one of the biggest things. When people when I talk about government contracting or doing business with the government people say, oh, it takes forever to get paid. It's like, no, it doesn't. The people that say it takes forever to get paid, they just don't know what to be doing and they end up messing with that, or they listen to somebody that doesn't know what they're doing and then it ends up delaying it. So as long as you know what you're doing and you learn how to submit your invoice properly which they tell you how to submit your invoice before you even do the job as long as you invoice them properly, you will get paid in a timely manner.
Speaker 1:They sound like the best partner you want to have. I mean, at the end of the day, one of our concerns in my business is are you gonna get burned by somebody? It's only a matter of time. I mean, I've been burned hundreds of thousands of dollars by clients. Right, I have. I have someone I do business with. He had 215 000 outstanding to him. I have about 40 of that tied up with him as well. He just got word that it's going to be released. Thank god, but that's the biggest concern. So with here, it sounds like if you can just get your foot in the door which I want to talk about about next you're always going to pay, unless you do something stupid. I would imagine maybe fake goods or whatever the fuck. Right, but let's. I mean, would you agree with that as long?
Speaker 2:as, like you said, as long as you do good work, you'll never have a problem with the government. Getting your foot in the door is the hardest part for most people and that's where a lot of people fall off is because the process can take six, nine months just to get set up and a lot of people they don't want to put in six months worth of work with no reward, and so that's where most people fall off. But if you can put the work in and really it's not hard, all it is think of it like a vetting process. Just like you, if a new vendor came to you or a new client came to you, you would want to vet them. You just don't want to get in bed with anybody. You know what I'm saying. It's the same thing.
Speaker 2:The government don't want to get in bed with nobody because it's the government. They got to be careful with who they're doing business with. So they want to know you know who are we choosing to do business with? Because you know you can talk about when you become a small business and you get you. So the government wants to know who am I doing business with? Because now I have the ability to give them millions of dollars on a daily basis.
Speaker 2:So it's just a vetting process that takes a little bit of time and a lot of people just don't want to do it because they don't feel like doing it or they don't have the resilience to get hit in the head and then come back. And get hit in the head and come back Because that's all is Like you'll submit your first round of paperwork, they'll deny it for something stupid and they want to see all right, are you going to fight or are you just going to be like you know what, man, I don't want to do this shit? And most people just say I don't want to do it and they walk away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's like any other business, right? I guess that's a barrier to entries that will help people learn about this. You can probably collapse timeframes, get that down several months, right?
Speaker 2:So honestly, that's why I created the program is if you go on the SBA's website the Small Business Administration they say that it takes 18 to 24 months to build a government contracting business from scratch. What I wanted to do is I wanted to cut that time in half using my experience, my resources. I say all right if they say 18 to 24, I want to see if I can do it at nine to 12. And that's what we've been able to do. Typically, six to nine months is the time that it takes for me to help somebody from literally nothing to be able to get their first contract. It's typically six to nine months, but that's six to nine months of me doing a lot and six to nine months of you doing a lot. That months of me doing a lot and 69 months of you doing a lot. That's not 69 months of you just fucking buying a course and sitting on your ass Like. That's 69 months of you actually doing stuff.
Speaker 1:So let's say let's take me as an example. Let's say I'm like Kevin, I'm ready to fucking go. Let's do this. I'm busy as fuck man. I mean, I got three kids, I'm married. I traveled 115 flights last year. I'm always fucking on the go, right. So how much time do you think it'll take on my end during that six? Like if you had to quantify that into hours, how many hours am I spending per week or per month to get this going?
Speaker 2:So I tell people realistically if you want to be successful everybody's level of success is different right? But say you're so like if you're a business and you already have stuff going and you're just trying to add another revenue stream to it, so you just want to add the government as a client I would say it's going to take you about 10 hours of work a week. If you are starting from scratch meaning you don't really have a business, you're just trying to start going it's going to take you about 20 to 30 hours a week. And the reality is, is that because you got to do the work? See, if people come to me and they already have a business going and they're just adding to it, then it's just a matter of all.
Speaker 2:Right, let's look at your current operations, let's look at your current client base. Let's see what type of products or services you could offer to the government. Let's see what you've been doing for other clients that are similar you know what I'm saying. And then let's see how we can marry that, and so if you have some of that going, then we're just extracting the good, and then that's what we're sending to the government, is the good that we pull out of your current business.
Speaker 1:Got it. So let's say, obviously most of the audience are affiliate marketers, digital marketers, and I heard one of your previous podcasts. You said even like, right now we're in the age of content, right, and the government needs content as well. So how does somebody that's a digital marketer or someone that's in content or even sales because I think this sounds like a perfect fit for a great salesperson If you're a great salesperson that can get your foot in the door, I think you can make this shit rain right.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about that, bro. There's so many different ways to make money with the government, right? So, like, let's talk content, we'll start there, right so and social media, is that that's the future. I don't care what nobody wants to say, even the older generation that fought it for so long. They're even coming around to it, right? And you have to think like, tv and things like that, that's a thing of the past. Like nobody's really sitting down watching TV so they could. And watching commercials like nobody's sitting there watching commercials. That's the only time of year that people are interested about a commercial.
Speaker 2:So how is the government getting in front of their audience? Because you know, we're a little bit older. When we were kids, you know you would go to the grocery store with your mom on the weekend and there'd be a guy standing out there with a military suit on asking you hey, you got plans after high school. That shit don't exist no more, because A kids aren't going to the grocery store with their parents, because the parents don't even go to the grocery store. They use Shippit or Uber Eats to get their groceries delivered. So where's the government's client? Where is that next recruit? He's playing Call of Duty. He's playing different games on his phone. So the government has to get to them. So content is big. They use content to reach their audience.
Speaker 2:Another thing that I talk about which people that are a little over 30 will get this analogy in this story when I say it? People under 30, I'm sorry you're going to miss it, but you know, like back in the day, if we were to travel as 17, 18 year old kids and we were to go out of the country, right, yeah, how would you contact somebody back in America? You'd have to find a pay phone. Country, right, how would you contact somebody back in America? You'd have to find a pay phone, you'd have to use a call-in card, collect, call.
Speaker 1:None of that shit exists. I want to collect. Call someone on purpose, man. Fuck with their heads, man, because they wouldn't know what to do We'll call you from jail. That was the best.
Speaker 2:That's how we would have to communicate if we were out of the country back in the day. Remember in the 2000s? Then the internet cafes came about and you could sit there on AOL. Remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I'm saying Now. We're going back, right, but what do they do now? Everybody's got a phone, so every US embassy has an Instagram account. They have a TikTok. Wow, I didn't even think about that. So, and the reason being is think about this and something were to happen, we'd be fucked if we couldn't find a pay phone. Now a kid can go out of the country and they can get lost or they can lose their passport. As long as they got their phone, they can go on Instagram, they can type in US Embassy Azerbaijan and they can send them a DM. Hey, I'm a US citizen, I'm here in the country. Here's a picture of the street corner I'm standing on. How do I get to the embassy? They can DM them right back and they can save somebody's life. Yeah, so that's another way of how they're using social media. So now, that's content, that's digital marketing at that end of it, right.
Speaker 2:But then you think about. You say you got people that do sales. Same thing you talked about solar. You talked about Obamacare. There's so many government programs that are available, right, that people don't know how to gain access to. So if you can connect the dots, you can make money connecting the people with the programs.
Speaker 2:There's companies out there and that's what they do. You can set up as someone who provides the services to citizens and the government can pay you. Or you can set up a company that you know the people pay for access to certain services, so there's ways that you can make money. The people pay for access to certain services, so there's ways that you can make money. There's so many different opportunities. It just I tell people all the time the government buys everything. There's no product or service that the government doesn't buy. The government buys what you sell. They just don't buy it the way you're used to selling it. So all you got to do is think, okay, how do they buy what it is that I sell? Once you figure out how they buy what you sell, you can sell it to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was amazing, by the way, that's something that, and there's a thing, right, we're going to put this out there and again, big audiences, digital marketers. But if you just listen to what was said there, it sounds like a lot of these agencies, government agencies, they're just not ahead of what's going on with social media, right, and that's that's the opportunity but that's the government.
Speaker 2:You guys think about the government. They're slow, they're slow. That's why we hate the government. You're going to go get your. You're going to get your driver's license redone right now. How long are you going to wait?
Speaker 1:there to get a driver's license was fucking seven hours waiting, man, yeah it's the government bro they slow in everything that they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they look to us, the innovators, the business people, the sales people. They look to us, the innovators, the business people, the sales people. They look to us to say how can we speed up what it is that we do? And that's across the board.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is huge. This reminds me I ran a call center. I didn't own it, but I ran a call center in South Carolina. We had contracts with utility companies like Duke Energy, ouc, so-called gas and electric and at first I was like this is going to be boring. Why am I doing this crap? Because I came from Wall Street. I did all this kind of sexier shit is what you call it.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you said that, because that's what I tell people all the time. What I do is just not sexy but continue.
Speaker 1:But there's money in it, right, there's money in it. Right, there's Cody Sanchez. Those have. Longevity is what it comes out.
Speaker 1:Listen, digital marketing is fun, but we all know no campaign lasts forever. Where the fuck is the government going? If the government's gone, we have a big fucking problem, right? So the government's there. They can print money out of the situation, but the bottom line is that those boring businesses, those laundromats, those car washes they're the ones that are printing money and then when you make one work, then you get 10, 15 to work, right so? So the thing with digital marketing is very like this right Up and down, for many years, everyone was a genius making a lot of fucking money.
Speaker 1:2023 came, a lot of people got exposed, even my company man. We went backwards in 2020. Still made money, still were profitable. It opened my fucking eyes. I'm like yo, I got to start diversifying and doing other shit. But the point is that digital marketing is like this. It's a fucking roller coaster. To have longevity, if you want to have a long lasting income for your families, you need to look into shit like this is what it comes down to. So that's why I like having you on the show, because a lot of people have no clue what the fuck this is going on.
Speaker 1:And going back to my call center days, we had contracts with these utilities. They had this shit called smart meters that would send a signal to people's houses. I read an article which changed my mind about it. It said utilities aren't so smart about smart meters. They didn't know how to communicate the benefits to their clients, right, so they needed to join forces with a call center like ours to communicate those benefits. I'm a fucking sales guy. I know how to train high-level salespeople. That's what I did Before you knew it. We were winning contracts left and right, right, so that's what I think it is. If the light bulb goes off with these digital markers and sales maybe brokers or leads you can make a lot of fucking money with the government. I think you will crush this shit. I mean, would you agree or not?
Speaker 2:100% Call center work is big too. Really, I didn't even know about that. Call center work is huge. Boom, Because you got. I'm just going to think about this and then you're going to be like holy shit, you got a point In your industry. Now, on the private side, where are most of the call centers Like location-wise Overseas? How would you feel as a United States citizen to call the government and somebody from the Philippines picked up the phone?
Speaker 1:Oh, you'd be pissed off. You're right. My tax money where the fuck's it going? Yeah, and listen, I'm international as fuck. It's business.
Speaker 2:It's business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my money's going. What the fuck man? Yeah my money's going.
Speaker 2:What the fuck, man? But think about this. Can the US government do that? Can they? Yeah, I guess they can, right, but they would get their fucking ass handed to them, right, okay, got it. They would get their ass handed to them PR nightmare yeah. So they're dying for call centers right now in the US they're dying for.
Speaker 2:US-based calls. I see call center contracts 10 a. So take, for example, you're my 73-year-old father, right, and your Social Security check was a little slow this month. And you pick up your phone and you call the Social Security agency and you're like I can't, what happened to my check? And they're hello, thank you for calling Social Security.
Speaker 1:What are you going to do when? You're a 73-year-old You're going to believe it.
Speaker 2:You think it's a scam. You're going to be like this ain't America? Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you? Yeah, the citizens want that. So call center work right now crazy money. Wow, and you got to think they paying dumb numbers for it, because how many call centers are actually US based? Still, it's not a lot. Not many of them, yeah. So what do you do now? You want to talk about making money. You drive the market, you say okay social security agency.
Speaker 2:You want a 100-person call center that can handle 25,000 inbound calls a day. All right, for me to do that for you in Tuscaloosa is going to cost you $75 an hour per person because I'm going to have to go find people to work in these call centers. There are none out there. I'm going to have to build a call center because all the call centers that I could have leased back in the day are all gone because everybody shut them down and they moved to outside of the country. So it's going to cost me $300,000 just to build a call center, and then on top of that it's going to be you know what I'm saying XYZ per hour.
Speaker 1:What's the government going to say? I agree.
Speaker 2:I got to do it.
Speaker 1:Wow, that was huge, man. I mean, you got my mind's thinking. I even think that's what I like about it. You're an expert at this right, and if you want to again, you can go your own way and fucking 18 to 24 months, stumble along, but I've made my money by teaming up with experts, paying money to enter rooms right, collapsing time frames, and that's what it comes down, and that's why I want to have an expert, like a year, to talk to the audience.
Speaker 1:Now, before we, before we started airing, you said some fire shit man, and this is very applicable to my industry. You know, we're very kind of like balls to the wall people in our industry Some a lot of degenerate shit going on, but I feel like a lot of them. Any successful industry, you gotta be balls to the wall, you gotta have those degenerate tendencies, right, and that's what makes shit happen, right. But with that comes a lot of live, live fast, uh, burn money fast kind of shit, right. So we're talking about long-term life, long-term money, right for your family and whatever. So let's, let's talk about that. We're talking about, you know, internet marketers. We're talking about crypto people, you know, spending all their money on lambos, making money off meme coins like let's talk about what we're talking about before man. What the hell?
Speaker 2:no, I was just saying. So I got into the online space. It'll be two years ago, right, I just turned two years old online and so at first, like I said, I didn't really believe it because I had been doing government work for so long, so I was like, yo, this is not real. But then, the more I started doing it, I started seeing the business behind it. But then I started seeing, okay, how things were going and it made me, just this year, want to create other programs outside of government cheese, right. And so what I've been doing now is working with a lot of entrepreneurs, because what we're saying was like, I see people like the digital marketers that were doing they'll have one campaign that does numbers and they make a bunch of money, right. And then they're like, okay, what do I do? And not even so much from a business perspective, because, a, they don't know what to do from a business perspective, because essentially, they got lucky, right. So it's not like they had like a solid business structure. So it's okay, come on, let's show you how to have a real business setup that you can do this multiple times, and it's not just you getting lucky, but then also, in addition to that, let's show you what to do and how to live your life the right way as a high level entrepreneur.
Speaker 2:Because if you are one of those crypto kids that just hit a lick, or you're a digital marketer that had one hot campaign and you try to go deal with real business people, they're going to snuff you out off top Because they're going to be like man, you're not serious. That's just like when you just got lucky. You just got lucky. You know what I'm saying, and so they're not going to take you serious in business, because a broke clock is only right twice a day. So now you got to legitimize yourself as an individual and as a business, right? So what does that look like?
Speaker 2:Like I was saying with the Lambos, like a lot of these kids, they get the money and they're like okay, you just want to go get all the Lambos and all the hookers. That's cool. But I'm telling you after, like I don't want to say too much, but like after you, after you talk to every girl in that little circle cause let's keep it real All them girls running a circle and you've, you've talked to them all. Now what? Okay, now you got to have something legitimate going on. After you bought all them cars like legitimate going on.
Speaker 2:After you bought all them cars, there's only essentially three Lamborghini models out there. So after you have a Urus, a Huracan and a Ventador, you're not going to get on the list for a Rivalto. So what you going to drive then, buddy, you know what I'm saying. So let's talk about how you really sustain this wealth and what you really want to be looking at and what you really want to be doing and that's the lane that I'm on now is just helping entrepreneurs that are not traditional entrepreneurs really understand what it means to be a businessman, because if you've already started making that money and your business has already grown, a lot of people aren't going to stop the clock and go back to Wharton Business School.
Speaker 2:It's too late. That train already left the station. You know what I'm saying. But you got to learn. Like you said, you was on Wall Street and you did stuff on Wall Street. It's just like back in the day I'm sure there was OGs on Wall Street, because you would see the guys that would come in do good, they would burn out, be gone.
Speaker 2:Then you got the old timers that have been there and they would see somebody who got potential and pull them on the wing. Nah, man, you want to do like this, you want to do this. You're doing good right now, but this is what's going to happen in a year or two, and so that's what I think is missing in the internet and the digital marketing stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no one really talks about that stuff, so it's great that you're Because it's not sexy.
Speaker 2:It's not sexy, it's not cool, but I've seen it firsthand, especially living here in Miami. Oh, miami's nuts for that shit. Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking about buying fucking cars and I fucking cars and I'm like why am I thinking about buying this motherfucker? Because I'm seeing motherfuckers driving. I'm like, bro, like I don't really need that shit. Like you know, it's crazy, man. Bro, I went to go get another car, uh, like two weeks ago, and the spot I went. So I'm gonna talk to the dude. He's like. He's like you don't understand, we can't keep cars. Wow, he was like it's crazy. He was like these fucking youtubers. He was like yo, he's like we got youtube kids that are coming in here and they're dropping fucking a million dollars on an svj and not even like test driving. He's like some of them don't even know how to drive it. They just gotta have it because, you know, the other youtuber, the other streamer, just got one, so they need one. And I'm he's like. He's like it's crazy and I'm just laughing. I'm like, yeah, I get it, man. I was like, but that's just what they're doing yeah, absolutely listen.
Speaker 1:This is great. I want to ask you just probably the last question but who? Who's made the most money? Who's making the most money off the government right now? Like who in this line of business? You're like, what kind of numbers are they putting up? Because I think you mentioned people like elon musk and and jeff basil, right, like they're selling to the government. Isn't that where they're making most of their money with AWS and that shit?
Speaker 2:Every every, every. I'm going to say it again so you guys understand. Every large business in America today makes the bulk of their money from the government, the public sector, the people, the private sector. The people is just, that's just their smoke and mirrors. Jeff Bezos makes all of his money from AWS. Amazon actually loses money on an annual basis. You can Google it. Amazon loses about 2% per year. Aws makes 34%. So the thing the difference is is when people look at amazon, it makes whatever a billion dollars, right, and aws only makes like 120 million. But aws did 120 million from the government at a 34 margin. You know what I'm saying. So it's just the math is just completely different math.
Speaker 2:Um, elon musk. He has an interview that you can go back and watch. It's probably like eight or ten years ago where he literally broke down in tears telling the story of how Tesla was bankrupt and then the government gave him a contract for SpaceX and that's what birthed Tesla. Like he literally was in tears, crying, telling the story Like everybody that you can think of. That's how they get their money and it goes all the way back to the beginning of time, the Wright brothers their first airplane was sold to the government, like GE, boeing, like every person you think, even the car makers. You know what I'm saying Everybody sells to the government. No-transcript.
Speaker 1:It's mind boggling, right, something that people don't think about. And there's also, I think, the youngest billionaire ever, right.
Speaker 2:Everyone talks about the Kardashians.
Speaker 1:But the youngest billionaire. What was he? 19?.
Speaker 2:Alex Wang, so the youngest self-paid billionaire in the world. His name is Alex Wang. He's a government contractor. Everybody thinks Kylie Jenner, but it's not. It's Alexander Wang. And what does he sell? Drones, wow, yep. So he created a drone that the DOD bought. So one of the other things that the government buys remember what I was talking about? They buy everything. So one of the other things that they buy a lot of is they buy R&D, so they buy intelligence. So he had an idea for a drone and he created this drone, and then the Defense Department bought his drone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course War Dogs is about government contracting for arms and ammunition, right, so he bought the penthouse in War Dogs in downtown Miami. Oh yeah, it was pretty sick. So when I'm watching the movie and so that's it's funny because Brendan told me about, we tried to connect like a month ago Then I saw that movie and I was thinking about you so I was so excited because you can see in that movie how these arms ammunition to you know going to fucking, going to like Iraq and doing these massive deals. And I remember one of the best scenes like they drive to like the triangle of death or some shit, and then they go to see the sergeant or whatever.
Speaker 1:The guy was general and the guy's like, okay, you guys delivered a reward. And they go back to some area. There's like billions of dollars in cash sitting there and then just give them fucking like $10 million in cash and changes these guys' lives. But that's a movie, but that kind of shit happens in real life.
Speaker 2:No, that's a real story. Yeah, it is a real story. That's crazy. I know those guys. One of them still lives in Miami. I think both of them still live here in Miami, but that's 100% a real story. The only thing that they said wasn't technically real, which wasujah? Okay, so they didn't get to Baghdad through Fallujah. They added that to the movie, but the producer of the movie was actually doing a documentary on another government contractor and that was his story. He actually did that. So that was like everything in that movie was 100% real. Yeah, that was sick. I tell people all the time the difference between me and them it's just they sell guns. I sell toilet paper yeah, love it. That's the only difference.
Speaker 1:It's not sexy, but shit it's long Longevity People always going to need toilet paper right, every person on that base got to go poop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:This was amazing, kevin. This was fucking action-packed. Everyone listening again. This is not digital marketing, but if you use your brain and you figure out how to connect the dots and collapse timeframes here with Kevin, you can be utilizing those services for the government the biggest buyer in the fucking world, the US government. So good shit. How can people find out more about you?
Speaker 2:man, yeah, so all my socials is govcheese, so G-O-V underscore cheese, government cheese. Check out the YouTube and then go to the website thegovernmentcheeseorg, so T-H-E governmentcheeseorg.
Speaker 1:So T-H-E, governmentcheeseorg, and you find out all the programs there. This was fucking great. Check them out. Let's fucking go, baby.