Rewiring the Brain With Psilocybin

Unlock the secrets of ancient alchemy and modern healing on Matt Chambers Connects with our fascinating guest, Lobo, an alchemist committed to transforming lives. Discover the profound benefits of psilocybin, commonly known as magic mushrooms, and how they can stimulate neurogenesis and neuroplasticity. Lobo shares unique insights into how these natural substances offer a promising alternative to traditional pharmaceuticals, helping individuals to overcome depression, anxiety, and addiction through both ceremonial and microdosing approaches.

We'll guide you through the transformative power of microdosing psilocybin mushrooms and how it can rewire the brain to crave positive neurochemicals like serotonin and oxytocin. Through compelling personal anecdotes and success stories, we illustrate how microdosing has the potential to restore energy, joy, and creativity. Listen as we emphasize the importance of professional guidance in this journey and the necessity of taking breaks between microdosing cycles to maintain long-term benefits.

Our discussion takes a deeper turn as we tackle sensitive topics around sexual trauma and cultural pressures surrounding sexuality. Hear startling statistics that reveal the widespread impact of sexual performance anxiety and disconnection from pleasure. We juxtapose Western and Eastern perspectives on sexuality, highlighting how different cultural approaches can lead to more fulfilling sexual experiences. Additionally, we introduce Taoist techniques for managing sexual energy and preserving vitality, making this episode a comprehensive guide to mental, emotional, and physical well-being.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Hello and welcome to Matt Chambers Connects, a podcast hosted by Matt Chambers. This is the podcast that transcends boundaries, empowers cross-cultural connections and fosters a more connected world. I'm your host, matt Chambers, and I invite you to join us on this quest to expand our understanding and build bridges between my two favorite places on the planet Latin America and the United States. I've been traveling, living and doing business in Latin America for nearly two decades. All right, man, how are you Super good.

Speaker 2: 0:49

Yeah, I feel honored to be here with you, man.

Speaker 1: 0:55

Yeah, man, I'm glad we're here together today. I've really learned a lot. I did the interview a bit ago with Monica, learned a lot about the process of what you guys are doing here and and in regards to healing, and you know, I've always been super interested for many, many years, so it's nice to actually meet the people, uh, that that are using these medicines that to cure people, and, um, I also was able to spend some time with aaita from Jardin, and so that was nice, and now obviously nice to get a different perspective from you. So I'm glad you're here as well. Thank you, brother. Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself a little bit? Perfect, tell myself and the community what you're doing.

Speaker 2: 1:39

My name is Lobo, I'm an alchemist and I want to start from this point, you know, because alchemy, it's a very ancient science that has been forgotten for humanity, you know, is the science of transformation, the science of transmutation, and alchemists work, we work with different disciplines, with different knowledges for improving people's life, for improving businesses, for improving the consciousness state of a whole village or a whole town. You know, and right now, as we were speaking before myself, I use sacred plants, use a music, meditation, in order for transforming people's lives, people's brains, in order for everybody to have a better life in every aspect of themselves. Right that this is what we all want, right?

Speaker 1: 2:43

And so what plants are you most focused on?

Speaker 2: 2:47

Okay, let's say that, depending on the intention that we want to feel, you know, and the most common right now, and I think that right now it's something like a moda. I think that right now it's something like a moda, like a fashion Fashion, you know, magic mushrooms. I think this is the… Psilocybin. Psilocybin, yeah, I think this is the… this centuries medicine. Why, you know, the rhythm we have constantly has made that, right now, mental illnesses are the ones that are, sorry, fucking around more between everybody and people are very used to take one drug, you know, like pill that will destroy your, your fucking brain. We will get you out of depression, but it will make you dependent to this drug, you know, and it will make you like sad and with not all of your power active, you know know, it's like you know a lot of those pharmaceutical drugs.

Speaker 1: 4:06

Number one, I think many times they're designed for the person to become addicted. Yeah, right, they're not natural, right? So one thing that has always fascinated me, and the more that I study the plant medicines, the more that I become interested the pharmaceutical drugs, you know, I look at the United States, right, I can't even remember, but it's a very high percentage of people in the United States are depressed and it's because of what you said. It's this fast life of constant movement and constantly trying to be better than what you are right now and you never enjoy the moment, you never enjoy what you already have. And so once you become addicted to those drugs, you know again, they're chemicals and and these people maintain their addictions for for life, yeah, for life. And um, one of the ways that people are coming off those addictions, for sure, are the plant medicines. Yeah, and I think you're right, I think the psilocybin has become the new the new thing.

Speaker 2: 5:08

It's very magical because a lot of people think, oh, magic mushrooms, a people use them for dragging themselves or escaping reality. But people don't know about the scientific benefits that this specific chemical okay, it's an neurochemical the cyclocybin has, for example. It activates the neurogenesis in your brain, so, and when you are on a microdose therapy of magic mushrooms, or when you go into a ceremony, your brain will start creating new neurons, new ones, you know so, and it also activates the neuroplasticity.

Speaker 2: 5:52

I was gonna say it's almost a natural neuroplasticity medicine so it's the perfect moment for a rewiring your brain, exactly so. We use them in ceremonies and we use them in microdosing therapies for helping people to get out of long depression states, anxiety, even addictions, because the pharmaceutical drug will how do you say you become more addicted Sleep your brain. Oh, it puts your brain okay. Oh, it puts your brain to sleep, uh-huh right. And psilocybin what does is that balances your chemical. It balances the chemical structure of your brain.

Speaker 1: 6:36

So would you say that the pharmaceutical drugs based on what you just said, the pharmaceutical drugs that people are used to taking, it kind of masks the problem. It covers up the problem Exactly, Whereas psilocybin actually goes in and repairs the problem Exactly.

Speaker 2: 6:52

And, of course, you need to be super careful on your own process and do it with someone that knows how to guide you. You know, yeah, that knows how to guide you. You know, yeah, Actually the United States had a lot of. The were the ones that okay, let's say the American Medical School, American Medical School were the ones that made magic mushrooms illegal worldwide. Worldwide, Of course, Because my country everything's illegal.

Speaker 1: 7:31

now, everything's illegal. You know what?

Speaker 2: 7:33

All the good stuff's illegal and the bad stuff's legal Because this beautiful mud plant, Ponji, was making the pharmaceutical industry lose billions of dollars, of course, because it's free.

Speaker 1: 7:47

People knew that it grows in the mountains and they go get it.

Speaker 2: 7:52

So, yeah, fortunately, right now, with you know, internet and all this stuff, the information is coming back to all of us, and right now there are even some countries that are introducing therapies with psilocybin, such as Canada, such as New Zealand, such as Sweden, for taking people away from these deep, deep states that, unfortunately, we are so used to see.

Speaker 1: 8:23

right now, you know, another major problem in the United States is attention deficit disorder. I actually had it, I still have it, and the first thing that the doctors did in the United States was they gave me Adderall right Adderall now that we have more education on it is one of the most addictive pharmaceuticals that we have in the States, and there's so many people in colleges and businessmen addicted to freaking Adderall Wow. And you know what they gave me when I became addicted, became addicted because they gave it to me. It's probably stronger than cocaine when it comes to you know, I think so. And when I became addicted and I needed to get off of it, you know what they gave me? What Antidepressants. So I got more pills. So it was like they gave me a pill to fix the problem. It didn't fix the problem, and then they gave me another pill to get off of it.

Speaker 2: 9:11

Wow, I want to tell the people that might be in a similar situation, right, that going away from addiction it's easier than what we think. Okay, yeah, there is a super famous scientist that is called Dr Joe Dispenza. I know about Joe Dispenza, have you heard about him? He's very powerful because he's obsessed of showing the real connection between science, the mind and spirituality Okay, Like a perfect triangle between science, the mind and spirituality. And he has shown that, for example, after three days okay, if you are addicted to something, just give you three days of a disconnection, of having new emotions, go away from your place, go away from the environment that have you linked to this, this drug addiction, so that you know. And after three days of you having different emotions, having different behaviors, something changes in the chemical structure of your brain.

Speaker 1: 10:31

This is without psilocybin, without anything, Without psilocybin. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:35

Change your environment? Nothing, okay. So after three days the whole job is done. No, but the hardest part is over. It is over, Okay. No, but the hardest part is it is over, okay. After three days you will have a real upgrade in your neurochemical structure, in your information.

Speaker 1: 10:51

Wow, and then? So, after the three days, is the idea to start with things like mushrooms at that point?

Speaker 2: 11:06

For example, when people tell me oh so if I go to a mushroom ceremony, my whole depression, a depression is gonna fade away. No, no, no, a. During the ceremony we will clean your brain from bad chemicals, you know, and from this point is your job to restructure a, your thought process. And it is beautiful because let's understand something Brains are addictive, all of the brains in the world, For sure. Some of them get addicted to working out, some others to cigarettes, some others to alcohol, even to sex Sex, of course, even to work. Some brains get addicted to be sad. Some brains get addicted to be sad. Some brains get addicted to be angry, you know, but we can change this, it's not a bad thing. We can change the perspective and we can put our brains into an addiction to serotonin, serotonin, serotonin, the-huh Serotonin, the neurochemical of happiness. And that's a good addiction, right? Of course, this is a beautiful addiction.

Speaker 1: 12:13

And that's essentially one of the things that mushrooms do right, uh-huh, exactly, yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:20

This is why the microdosing therapy for me, this is why the microdosing therapy for me is the best, best way of going out of these deep depression or anxiety states. Depression your brain gets fucking addicted to cortisol. Yep Right, that will bring you down, down, down and down. With microdosing, your brain will get into a balanced state.

Speaker 1: 12:46

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:52

Will give you back your energy, will give you back the joy of living and from this balanced state, it is your job to implementing a new micro habit. You know that will inject, inject, serotonin, oxytocin. And you know what happens next when your brain gets addicted to these good neurochemicals? Whenever you stop working out or you stop reading, or you stop working on your own project, your own fucking brain will push you back Because of the microdosing. Not because of the microdosing, but because your brain has turned your bad addiction your bad.

Speaker 2: 13:34

American into a good addiction.

Speaker 1: 13:38

Yeah, and you know what, I can confirm what you're saying because I spent a lot of time studying the psychedelics, the plants, and then I went through a few years of just you know just hard time, just a weird, weird depressive time, depressing times, and I started studying the plants a little bit as well and started talking to a lot of people and and one day a friend told me he's like you should call. You should call these guys. You know you should call Monica. And so I called and sent her a message and she calls me immediately and we had two small conversations and she got all the information out of me on a phone call and she figured out exactly what, what was going on with me and what I needed. And she said I'm going to recommend that you start a small micro dose of psilocybin. And she gave me the dosage and all that.

Speaker 1: 14:30

And I was in Brazil at the time and I'm like you know, I've studied this stuff enough that I knew she was right, I knew it was time, so I ordered them and the very first I mean for probably three years I was pretty depressed and I wasn't really happy, which is my normal. My normal self is kind of upbeat and happy and I took my first microdose of mushrooms and then I laid in my bed. I did a 15-minute meditation, wow. And then I went for a walk in Brazil and maybe 15 minutes later so we're 30 minutes after I took the microdose without even thinking about it. I was just doing my normal walk and all of a sudden I was like I'm happy and you're not high. You don't feel like you're high, you feel, you just feel like yourself again. Presence, yeah, you feel present. And then all the things you're saying started to happen. Every every couple days I would feel a little bit more like my old self. And now I'm back. You know, you're back brother.

Speaker 2: 15:26

Uh, you know, going out from a depression state it's a strong job. You know it's a challenge, because one day you wake up maybe with a little bit more of energy or vitality, and suddenly during the day you lose all this motivation and the next day you try it again. It's like an internal conflict, like the internal fight. Microdosing what will make you is to shut down this internal fight. Okay, we focus only on the positive right. It's your job to, with your new energy, with your new vitality, with your new joy, start rewiring your brain. Yeah, but the microdosing will stop that internal fight, will stop that constant sadness, that this constant unmotivation. So, yeah, if you are going through a situation like this, try microdosing. Contact a psychologist or alchemist or a psychiatrist, psychologist, psychiatrist, maybe Some of them, because you know it needs to be a woke one.

Speaker 2: 16:38

You know, like someone who has someone who's alive and who knows what's going on and you will feel way better in three days I felt better. The first day, but for sure for sure.

Speaker 1: 16:51

It's like every day because you, you know microdose. The idea is you, you do a small dose and then you wait a couple days, you do another small dose. It's like every few days. But that medicine continues to work on your off day because it's working on your brain the whole time. And what I noticed was I was so far into this depression and down state that it started slowly bringing me out of it. It wasn't immediately noticed, but it was like this process and little things started. I started remembering oh, this is the old me, this is the old those little small things. And then, after the two months, I felt great. I was like I'm definitely going to do another round of microdosing. So I took two months off, which is what the recommended thing is. And then I did another two months. I felt great. I was like I'm definitely going to do another round of microdosing. I took two months off, which is what the recommended thing is. Then I did another two months.

Speaker 1: 17:37

After the second two months, I'm back to how I was 10 years ago. I'm focused every day. I wake up in the morning, I work, focus. I'm creative again. I work on all my stuff. That's without the medicine. I'm creative again, I work on all my stuff and that's without the medicine. I mean, I'm three months now I haven't had the medicine. Wow, and my brain's still Congratulations yeah, so I can. The reason that I'm here is because I was definitely a person that did not. I was like I thought these people were crazy. They were like psychedelic drugs or from the Amazon jungle, and I'm like, whatever these people are nothing man.

Speaker 1: 18:10

And then the universe put me in a state to where I started, for whatever reason, studying it more. And then, now that I've had the experience myself, I know that what you guys are doing and what you're saying is correct, and that's the reason I'm here.

Speaker 2: 18:26

You know you spoke to the Taita. You know the Taita from the jungle. You spoke to the owner of this beautiful temple, yeah, and now you're speaking to me. Each of us have the same mission, you know bringing people back to their normal, to a constant wellness state. The taita gives the medicine to people who are open, you know, to experience something in the jungle or something very deep or in an ancestral way. Here in the temple, there is another audience that will be happy to come into a temple and live and experience a spiritual connection through medicines. Bring the medicine and this information people world right, uh-huh, who is very far away from this other um world. Yeah, you know. So we use, for example, electronic music for magnetizing, for calling lots of young people that are super lost in their lives, where millennials they call us the unmotivated uh yeah, yeah, generation, you know it's not really I don't.

Speaker 1: 19:55

I don't see the millennials as an unmotivated generation. I see the millennials as because I'm a millennial as well older millennial but I see the millennials as a generation who has figured out a new way to do things and a new way to make money, and and we just don't mix well with with the older guys it's.

Speaker 1: 20:14

It's because the the old system, the baby boomers we'll call them right. Those guys just keep work and they're like 80 years old now. They're like out there like working normal, like they're 30, and it's when are you guys?

Speaker 1: 20:27

gonna quit right. Ambitious? Well, yeah and yeah, for whatever the reason is, they just keep going and keep going, and keep going. And they're still the owners of like 60 percent of the businesses in the United States. So when they go to try to hire someone, that's a millennial who's used to doing everything on his iPhone. You know, these are old men that are used to everyone coming in at eight o'clock in the morning and meeting at the coffee pot in the office, and if you don't come to the office at eight and leave at five, they think you're not working, whereas a millennial is like this is such a waste of my time. I can sit in my room on my iphone and do everything you're asking me to do.

Speaker 2: 21:03

So there's this disconnect between the two generations and a misunderstanding see so this way for example, doing experiences with medicine, with mushrooms, through electronic music, with meditation, with a hypnosis, a hypnosis, a hypnosis with breath work, you know. So, this way, we are mixing different disciplines in order for these people to go away completely new and renovated. For example, with the breath work, we do a whole deep cleaning process of the cells and the neurons, with the medicine. Everything that we do during this experience will go deep into their subconscious brain. You know, after we have cleaned them, we start doing a process of hypnosis for introducing new codes, new codes for these people, new action codes, new loving codes. You know, do you understand me when I tell you?

Speaker 1: 22:16

like a code, not, not exactly. Can you go a little bit further into the?

Speaker 2: 22:20

yeah. For example, if someone is super disconnected to abundance, abundance, yeah, abundance when they are in this a gamma state because your brain is in a gamma state, when it's in a very deep meditation or hypnosis state, we can send information directly into the subconscious mind of this person, so we can reprogram this person's mind. So this is what we call code, you know.

Speaker 1: 22:54

So you're kind of taking away the ego a little bit and reprogramming.

Speaker 2: 22:57

Yeah, exactly, it's like fucking programming on the computer. Let's say, the software of your brain is wide open, okay, so it's the perfect moment for us to start coding what are going to be the new behaviors, the new emotional states. After the ceremony, this guy or woman will continue having you know.

Speaker 1: 23:28

So here's my question on that Someone who's really connected and really focused on abundance, like you said, they're very focused on just that one thing. Most of those people and I'm one of those historically are going to be hard. It's going to be hard to change their brain. Like, what's the goal with a person like that, because normally I would think someone who's focused only on abundance um, that's pretty much all they care about do they come to you and say, hey, I don't want to be focused on this anymore, or are you trying to change their thought process? Because I think most of those people would not want to do that.

Speaker 2: 24:07

You know what? And some of them come because they feel so fucking stressed, stressed, yeah, tired of this rhythm, and they think that with the magic mushrooms they will have an answer. You know, this is what people normally think that with magic mushrooms you will have a powerful answer for you, for your life, and actually it it does so, and for this kind of people, what we do. Okay, so if your brain it's on a super sensitive state, on a super high sensitive state, we can put these people not to know about unity. No, we won't tell them. Oh, you're one with the whole universe. Words say nothing. You know, we make them experience unity, their whole fucking body.

Speaker 1: 25:03

It will disintegrate through the experience so, but does that experience and that medicine I think a lot of these guys are going to have that question is, let's say, a super focused business guy right? It's only focused on abundance, money, money, money, all these things. If he comes and has these experiences, is he going to lose that motivation and drive or does it just put him in a more relaxed state to where he probably is going to be? I don't know.

Speaker 2: 25:29

Tell me what happens to this. What will happen to this person is that, first of all, if he was looking for abundance and money from ambitious thought or from a bad point, he will lose this thought.

Speaker 1: 25:49

Oh, if he was.

Speaker 2: 25:52

From ego, you know.

Speaker 1: 25:53

If he was trying to get it from an egotistical standpoint, a haper.

Speaker 2: 25:57

Thank you very much. And most probably because being connected to money and to abundance is something beautiful. You know that the fucking system or the school has taught us that it is something bad? No, no, no, it's something beautiful. You know that the fucking system or the school has taught us that it's something bad? No, no, no, it's something beautiful. And after having this deep connection experience, this person most probably will try to do something good with this abundance, with that energy Uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh or to help a lot of people.

Speaker 1: 26:30

So, instead of I know what you're saying, instead of this person who's always been like me, me, me, me, me, there's only, if it's all about you, me, me, me, me, me, money, money, money, you're going to get to a certain point and you're not going to be able to go any further. You're just going to be like pushing against the wall You're fighting.

Speaker 1: 26:49

I think what you're saying is that with these treatments and with the medication, it allows that person to go deep within and continue his road of abundance, but he's going to do better things with that and be more fulfilled, Exactly.

Speaker 2: 27:06

And this doesn't mean to oh, I am going to donate all my money. No, this means okay, I have all these possibilities. What can I do for improving my environment, for improving my clients, my family, my everything, and not necessarily donate money? I can build or I can create jobs. I can change a little bit the perspective of my business in order for having the same flow of money, but from other but channel it in a different way.

Speaker 1: 27:45

Channel it in a different, more positive way that makes you feel good, exactly, yeah, got it. Incredible, man. I had not thought about it like that. Um, really, really cool. And so there's another part of your business that I learned is is the tantric, the tantrical part, right yeah?

Speaker 2: 28:02

Did you know that a more of 80% of humans have, like, uh, are sexually traumatized or have a sexual a wound that they haven't looked into, they haven't uh-huh, or they are not enjoying sexuality as they should because of something you know? 80%, more of 80%. And so when you talk about sexual trauma, what do you mean by that? For example, for us men, the most common one is that we feel pressured, pressured, pressured, pressured. More of 84% of men worldwide feel pressured when they are going to have a sexual encounter, because our penis is not as perfect as a vagina, you know. So they feel insecure about the, insecure about their abilities, and they don't feel confident in themselves in order for being able to to really connect with the person or to make their lover, a woman, reach orgasm. Happy. 84, 84 it's fucking a lot.

Speaker 1: 29:23

Maybe that's why they all get married, because they like decide hey now I feel secure with this one. I got to get married. Sign this contract.

Speaker 2: 29:29

Sign my life away. See, and for example, a for a woman, a more of C or more of 60% of women are super disconnected to their own pleasure and orgasm.

Speaker 1: 29:42

So they don't they, they don't feel comfortable enough to allow themselves to reach orgasm Because of lack of self-confidence.

Speaker 2: 29:54

Self-esteem issue as well. Also this because, also for women, they have been taught that.

Speaker 2: 30:02

That it's bad to have sex because they're going to be judged. For example, we have been taught men since we were little kids the more you have sex, the more man, the more macho you are. Yeah, for women, exactly the opposite, right. We have been taught masturbate, masturbate, masturbate, ejaculate. And they have been taught don't even look at it, don't touch it, okay, Because you're going to be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah you know, Is it because society is going to judge you?

Speaker 2: 30:37

Uh-huh yeah, that's what it is. So if a girl, if a woman don't let herself even to touch herself, you know, if it's bad for her to touch herself, she's going to be disconnected to her own pleasure, to her own orgasm.

Speaker 1: 30:58

So she has to touch herself, so she can learn about herself.

Speaker 2: 31:01

Right, of course, right course, and this will relax a all of us men. You know, because in our culture, a occidental, a culture a the Western culture, the orgasm of the woman, a the man is responsible of it, that the man is responsible of the orgasm of the woman. You know, this is what we all think. That's not true. That's not true In the oriental cultures, where they experience sacred sexuality.

Speaker 1: 31:36

It's up to the woman to take care of herself.

Speaker 2: 31:38

Of course, each of us is responsible of his own pleasure and in the oriental culture, orgasm is not the goal of having sex. What's the goal? Connection Having sex.

Speaker 1: 31:53

The actual act of having sex.

Speaker 2: 31:55

Uh-huh, uh-huh.

Speaker 1: 31:56

So as long as you just do it, they're happy.

Speaker 2: 31:58

Uh-huh, uh-huh. The man and the woman, the man and the woman. So in the Occidental culture we have sex for reaching orgasm. So this puts a big pressure on orgasm, on the man, on the man and on orgasm. And, for example, if you are a woman and you want to have an orgasm, guess what? You won't have An orgasm Because you're not connected. If you're looking for it, it won't have an orgasm if you're Lucas, you're not connected. Uh-huh, if you're looking for it, it a it won't appear in the oriental way. They just want to enjoy every single moment like the act of the uh-huh, and do you have you?

Speaker 1: 32:38

the people in the Eastern cultures end up having more orgasm, more healthy orgasms, because they don't think about it.

Speaker 2: 32:46

Uh-huh, exactly.

Speaker 2: 32:47

So, the woman's more comfortable and she's Uh-huh, exactly. And men don't ejaculate that much, even when they have sex, even when they have sex. That's not healthy though it is, it is, it is, yeah, okay. So let's say I'm going to tell about a scientific part and another one like a spiritual part, please. Yeah, scientifically, when women ejaculate, we are losing a lot of vitamins that our internal organs and even our brain need, you know. So, as long as we grow older, our whole body needs more days, or more. What Days? Days, days, days for recuperation, to recoup, recuperate, like from an ejaculation, you know, for example, this is why, when we were 20 years old, we were able to have a lot of sex and not being that tired. When we are 30 years old, if we ejaculate one day two times or three times, fuck, the next day you're going to be completely dead. And the older you grow, the hardest is for your body to heal.

Speaker 1: 34:10

Let's say it's harder for your body to recuperate, uh-huh.

Speaker 2: 34:17

So are you saying that as you get older, you should have more or you should have less, you should have less ejaculations? But this doesn't mean for you to have less sex, uh-huh, for example, tao sex, tao sexuality. Tao sexuality teaches men how to have sex and not ejaculate. And you will tell me oh, so my balls will start hurting. Yeah, and, of course, because if you have sexual energy, okay, when you are having sex, you produce, reduce sexual energy. This sexual energy, you have these different options with it. First of one, spell it a normal orgasm, nice. After a normal orgasm, you will feel a little bit tired, you're relaxed. If you have sex and you just don't ejaculate, all this energy will get stored in your balls, right, so they will hurt because there's a lot of.

Speaker 1: 35:21

So how do you get rid of that energy if you don't want me?

Speaker 2: 35:25

breathing, breathing, and how do you get rid of that energy if you're, if you don't want me breathing, uh-huh, breathing, and um, how do you say contract, contracting, uh-huh, your inner, uh, genital muscles? You know, but you do this during the whole encounter and this will make you reach other, um, orgasmic states. Well, okay, other kind of orgasmic states. Let's put an example. You are in the middle of your sexual moment, yeah, okay. And when you are just about ejaculating, you stop, okay, you can even leave it in, you know, but you just stop, you just can't, yeah, uh-huh. And when you stop, you take a deep breath and contract your genital muscles. I think in English are called I don't even know what it's called in English myself yeah, okay. Or Spanish, uh-huh, this muscle you have between your balls and your anus, yeah, yeah, yeah, this one, I know what it is. You contract it and you will feel Okay. Now I am in the spiritual part. Okay, modern science are very let's say that modern science don't know how to explain the energetic processes.

Speaker 1: 36:55

Modern science doesn't Well, they probably don't want to explain it.

Speaker 2: 36:58

They don't want to explain it. I'm sure someone knows how to explain it Modern medicine, modern science it's all bullshit. Yeah, completely true, but you know that oriental cultures have been very disciplined in studying the energetic processes inside, and so how are you guys?

Speaker 1: 37:16

fixing these problems. Okay, how do you make the woman more comfortable with herself so that she's having more orgasms? How do you make the guy more comfortable with himself so he's Do you remember about the code?

Speaker 2: 37:29

The codes? Yeah, absolutely. We reprogram these people's brains in order for them to release their sexual trauma and, at the same time, we teach them what is the new sexual philosophy that they will have for example.

Speaker 1: 37:51

So you give them entire an entirely new philosophy on sex, which makes them more confident it's beautiful, for example, and erectile dysfunction.

Speaker 2: 38:01

You know it's a common. You know it's a common problem between men. If you put pressure on your boy, your boy won't work, do you?

Speaker 1: 38:14

agree with me. Yeah, erectile dysfunction. It's in your head, right If you're thinking about it.

Speaker 2: 38:29

So if it happens to you a couple of times and then the third time you think about it, you can be super hard, for sure and suddenly, and this um, we call them in spanish, nudo sexual. A nudo is a like, a like, a when, when you tie yeah, so I don't know how to translate this in English. It's like a sexual blockage.

Speaker 1: 38:51

It's a block. You have a sexual block, but you've created that block in your brain.

Speaker 2: 38:56

It's not real, exactly, exactly. So first of all, we make them to release their sexual trauma, then we make them to experience a process of um, how do you say apologizing like reconciliation with your own?

Speaker 2: 39:14

yeah, like re, maybe reconciling, reconnecting with your own sexuality and after that, we teach them new techniques or new thoughts that they need to have when they are having sex, for example. Let's put one example for this If you are experiencing erectile dysfunction when you are having sex and you suddenly see that your boy is not working, fucking, forget that you have a dick, forget that you have a dick.

Speaker 1: 39:54

How do you do that? I mean, we've been so connected with that guy for a while, dude, I've been, you know, you've been friends for 40 years.

Speaker 2: 40:05

This is the mission. You need to completely forget that you have a dick and you need a to a give pleasure to this woman girl a with your hands, with your mouth, whatever you want, but you need to forget a hundred percent that you have a dick. Concentrate just on her. Uh-huh you, your dick was cut off. Wow Was completely cut off.

Speaker 2: 40:37

And so then, if you're focusing on her for X amount of time, he comes back. Of course he will come back, and he will come back in a more powerful state than it was before.

Speaker 1: 40:43

Wow, if he comes back more powerful, maybe I should always forget about him.

Speaker 2: 40:47

Yeah, of course, because, okay, this is the key In occidental sex. When he says occidental, that's western sex. Western, we have sex in a rush.

Speaker 1: 41:01

Oh yeah, especially in the United States. It's like, hey, I gotta go pick the kids up at the soccer practice, hurry up In a rush. United States, it's like, hey, I got to go pick these kids up at soccer practice, hurry up In a rush constantly. There's no real connection.

Speaker 2: 41:10

We take our clothes super fast, boom, we start, yeah, everything super fast.

Speaker 1: 41:19

In the.

Speaker 2: 41:19

Eastern cultures. They take their time.

Speaker 1: 41:23

I think in Colombia, though in South America, it's slower. Here People have their time. I think in Colombia, though in South America, it's slower, people have more time.

Speaker 2: 41:28

Here South America. It's a continent with a very high sexual energy, exactly Super high sexual energy.

Speaker 1: 41:37

But I don't find people in South America to be fast. They're slow People take their time.

Speaker 2: 41:41

See, they are so at the moment that this guy forgets about his dick and he starts working and he focuses a hundred percent, a fucking hundred percent in this girl's vagina. Yeah, pleasure, whatever. When he is 100 connected, his friend will come back super powerful and he will be able to.

Speaker 1: 42:05

So this is a code that we need to implement into their brains, for example, but in order to have all these businesses we've talked about today, I find it for you guys to be very hard to, because these are all of these themes with the plant medicines, because a lot of people come and they're scared of the medicines a little bit because of what they read, this sex tantra thing, teaching the people how to change the codes in their brain, and all these things, I find them it just seems like two businesses that people are going to be very scared to open up in. So when some guy comes in most guys come in they're not going to tell you hey, my dick's not working, dude.

Speaker 2: 42:58

They're not going to do that right.

Speaker 1: 42:59

You're going to have to really build a friendship with these people so that they feel comfortable right. So there has to be this process of getting the real information in order to be able to heal these people this is where marketing comes.

Speaker 2: 43:13

You know, this podcast is a mix between business marketing and also connection, you know, and all this stuff, and this is why I love my project, sure, you, you know.

Speaker 1: 43:28

And it's working for you, man.

Speaker 2: 43:32

You have a ton of followers on social media. Fortunately, we have been able to live only by doing this work for years now. Wow, and when you work on your own project, it will grow and grow and grow and grow. You know, yeah, there's no, no coming back. Yeah, and so, for example, and this is why we don't tell people like, hey, come and you will heal your erectile dysfunction, but we tell people, if you want to have sex from another dimension, you know, from another level of consciousness, with another level of joy, of power. You know, because all of, with the way that he's experiencing sex, will come and they don't need to expose themselves and say, hey, I have this problem, this problem, this problem You're creating an environment where they feel comfortable and then they just tell you their problem right Eventually and we build the experience in order for being able to heal 40, 50, 80, 100 people on the same at one time.

Speaker 1: 45:01

So how is that possible if you have 80 people and they all have these different problems?

Speaker 2: 45:06

Hypnosis, really Uh-huh, a group hypnosis, because when they enter a very deep gamma state, we need to introduce the codes very carefully. You know, because we don't say and now you're healing your lack of self-confidence, because this is something specific. You know, we say and now you release all the trauma and pain, injuries and you take a deep breath and with the exhalation you take all this away from your body. The exhalation you take all this away from your body. So every single specific person will bring into their mind the block or the wound that they have. You know.

Speaker 2: 45:56

So they kind of cure it themselves in a way. And we also need to give all the information they need in order for them to liberate all these processes, because you can come into a tantra or a sacred sexuality retreat for healing, let's say, premature ejaculation yeah, premature ejaculation, and you can do a lot of exercises for releasing this trauma, but the real challenge is gonna be when you have a new sexual encounter. So we also give the techniques for them, like the tools if for them to be able to finish the healing process in a by themselves with the next partner, of course.

Speaker 1: 46:51

Wow, super interesting stuff. So you did, did you start this here in Colombia? Then you went to Spain for a while.

Speaker 2: 46:56

Right Sí, I started this in Colombia, and I also want to tell you one thing. For example, 80 people come into one event, lots of them they get completely healed during the experience. And if any person wants to go deeper into their own process, we are always available for doing like private sessions, in which they first get to know us, our work, how we do it, the the energy that we put into it and after that they feel more confident to open up into going deeper into their situation.

Speaker 1: 47:39

Wow, super interesting stuff, man. As you know, I absolutely love the work you guys are doing All of you guys again. That's why I'm here. Is there anything that I missed today that you want to get out there?

Speaker 2: 47:54

Actually, like the final message for everybody that is watching or listening to this, whatever you are, is that starting to feel good again is easier than what you think, easier than what you think. Uh-huh, it only takes. Look, I've been always a lazy person, you know, so this has made me to look for the most efficient techniques for improving my brain myself, you know, and you don't need to work out a one hour a day for start for starting to feeling good yeah 10 minutes.

Speaker 1: 48:38

10 minutes 10 minutes, 10 minutes. Yeah, you know, even now, like you know, I've been going to the gym very consistently for a long time and it's those first five minutes, man. There are days that I just don't even want to go. I'm like, oh my god, I don't want to go to the gym but I make, and it's those first five minutes, man. There are days that I just don't even want to go. I'm like, oh my God, I don't want to get the gym, but I make myself go. It's those first five minutes on the elliptical or first five minutes on the treadmill, and I'm like, you know, it's not really the last 30 minutes or the last 45 minutes, it's the first five minutes. It just takes me to a new level.

Speaker 2: 49:05

I'm going to tell you the final brain hack. Okay, this is a brain hack for everybody. If you tell yourself I am going to work out one hour a day, and the first day you, okay, go to the gym because you are super motivated one hour. The second day, you had a lot of work and something happened, you weren't able to make it. And the third day, you had a lot of work and something happened, you weren't able to make it. And the third day you feel a little bit unmotivated because the last day you didn't do it and you maybe don't do it again, or you just do 20 minutes. Your brain is gonna feel guilt yeah, because you didn't stay the whole hour, uh-huh. And this guilt will transform into cortisol, uh-huh, stress hormone.

Speaker 2: 49:52

And stress hormone, uh-huh, that will bring you down, your energy down. So your motivation, your high expectation, your high expectations, expectations On this new habit, it's actually being it's actually dragging you down, yeah.

Speaker 1: 50:14

So what's the trick is it? Just don't. Don't put those limits on yourself. Just say I'm gonna go to the gym.

Speaker 2: 50:18

So the trick is, I am gonna do exercise. Don't say one hour daily, say five minutes, ten minutes daily. But if it's daily, it's fucking daily. Everybody has five ten minutes that we spend on Instagram, youtube, masturbating or doing whatever the fuck. Even if it's 11pm, you have ten minutes for standing up and doing 30 push-ups. Yeah, and this is enough, as you said, to keep your mind on it. Uh-huh, the first five minutes are the ones that will give your brain a good neurochemicals dopamine, like hey, good job. Your brain is telling you, hey, good job.

Speaker 1: 51:04

And then you keep going here you do the five minutes where the pushups boom. You end up there forever.

Speaker 2: 51:08

Here is new vitality, new energy that you can invest in whatever the fuck you want. So it's easier If you are in a deep depression state, grabbing a book and reading three pages. It is one step. You know, it's the first step. Congratulations, okay. The next day, read three fucking pages. You need no more, yeah, and then do 20 push-ups. Perfect. Keep that mini routine, 10 minutes routine or three days and the hardest part you will have like a beaten this this-huh, this monster. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. And after that start enjoying the new um energy, your, your new life, your, your new configuration. Getting out of deep status are is easier of what you think and if you need a little help, get a microdose yeah, absolutely the micro microdose.

Speaker 1: 52:07

I can, absolutely the microdose. I can't say enough about it. Man, for the longest time again, I know I'm repeating myself here, but I doubted it. I was like I don't know what these people are talking about and I do think you're right, going back to your point in the beginning, that these people in the United States you know, you hear about these guys that are using mushrooms to drug themselves, right. And so I think the society in general just says these guys are just idiots. They're going to get these stupid mushrooms just so they can see an elephant fly by or whatever weird stories they have the next day, right. But then guys like you and I who understand that mushrooms have significant medicinal uses and medicinal power, understand the difference.

Speaker 2: 52:55

So I think that's why there's this negative connotation when you say, oh, I'm taking mushrooms people need to be very careful because when they do it for recreational things mushrooms they need to be super respected. Here is where the bad trips come. It's about the setting that is around. It's not appropriate for having this spiritual and deep connection.

Speaker 2: 53:27

It's not appropriate appropriate for for having this spiritual and deep connection. Appropriate because a like a big trip or mushrooms will open your perception channel, will open your third eye, so you will be able to feel the energy of the persons, the energy, the place you are. You're gonna be ultra sensitive for everything. So if you are not in the correct environment, correct state, you will a bad trip. You will feel dense, a low vibrational energy around you and this will make your trip like not so beautiful a and wood, so be Mushrooms. Only in a beautiful, so-called setting you can do it, with your partner or with yourself, in a forest, near a river, in a deep meditation state, but not recreational.

Speaker 1: 54:21

Yeah, no, I agree. I think that's the problem, and you know always with an intention, always.

Speaker 2: 54:29

So you have to go in with a focused intention because it will open up all your brain and you want this experience for bringing up an answer to your life or for fixing, rewiring something specific in your brain or something you need. And the magic mushrooms are super intelligent. So if you have an adequate intention, a correct set and setting, you can do it by yourself and, but the first time it's not really recommended, right yeah?

Speaker 2: 55:02

it's very easy to with a guide for you to have a good and a beautiful trip, and remember going out of deep depression and anxiety states. It's easier of what you think.

Speaker 1: 55:18

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 55:19

And if you need a little push, go for a microdose therapy.

Speaker 1: 55:23

Yeah, yeah, no, the microdosing certainly helped me and uh and I plan to continue with it. So, man, thank you so much for coming today. I really sincerely appreciate it. It's it's been extremely informative and exciting, just like I thought it would be. Um, so we'll be in touch and I'm sure that in the future, we're going to get together again with uh, new, uh, updated information, right, new energy, yeah, and of I'm sure that it's going to be.

Speaker 2: 55:51

After that, you come to experience we do with Magic Mushroom.

Speaker 1: 55:55

Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 55:55

So you can tell a little bit about your experience and how was your trip with electronic music, meditation, breath work. What did you feel? What did you discover? Of the whole universe? Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 56:10

All right brother. Thank you so much. All right man, Thank you for coming. Thank you so much for joining me on this episode of Matt Chambers Connects. Stay tuned for upcoming episodes where we'll dive deeper into these two fascinating worlds. If you enjoyed today's episode, please subscribe to our YouTube channel, matt Chambers Connects. You can also find us on Spotify, apple Podcasts, youtube Music and many other major podcast platforms, so you don't miss a show. Also, please join us on our social media channels so you can connect with other listeners and ask your most pressing questions, and also tell us what types of guests you'd like to see on the show. Thanks again and I'll see you next time.