Ever found yourself seeking a beacon of hope amidst life's tempests? Deb Harrison, a trailblazer in education and advisory, joins me to share her remarkable journey from overcoming childhood adversity to revolutionizing the way we learn and communicate. Deb uncovers the heartfelt story of her youthful wish for a pet chimpanzee as a symbol of solace and imagination, painting a vivid picture of her early struggles and the seeds of resilience they planted. Her inspiring dialogue provides invaluable insights into transforming our personal challenges into opportunities for growth, mirroring her own evolution from a creative classroom teacher to a dynamic consultant.
As Deb and I wade through the intricacies of adapting to change, she imparts her wisdom on the transformative power of video content and the judicious use of social media analytics. Her tales from the classroom to the digital landscape highlight the significance of staying true to one's voice while strategically navigating viewer preferences and learning styles. Creators and educators alike will discover the art of asking the right questions and the importance of consistency in building an authentic, engaged community. Tune in to experience Deb's captivating narrative and take away strategies for fostering resilience, creativity, and connection in a world that's always on the move.
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Ever found yourself seeking a beacon of hope amidst life's tempests? Deb Harrison, a trailblazer in education and advisory, joins me to share her remarkable journey from overcoming childhood adversity to revolutionizing the way we learn and communicate. Deb uncovers the heartfelt story of her youthful wish for a pet chimpanzee as a symbol of solace and imagination, painting a vivid picture of her early struggles and the seeds of resilience they planted. Her inspiring dialogue provides invaluable insights into transforming our personal challenges into opportunities for growth, mirroring her own evolution from a creative classroom teacher to a dynamic consultant.
As Deb and I wade through the intricacies of adapting to change, she imparts her wisdom on the transformative power of video content and the judicious use of social media analytics. Her tales from the classroom to the digital landscape highlight the significance of staying true to one's voice while strategically navigating viewer preferences and learning styles. Creators and educators alike will discover the art of asking the right questions and the importance of consistency in building an authentic, engaged community. Tune in to experience Deb's captivating narrative and take away strategies for fostering resilience, creativity, and connection in a world that's always on the move.
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Hello and welcome to Shine On Success. I'm Dionne Malush and and today we're thrilled to welcome Deb Harrison, a true force for growth, change and kindness. Deb's diverse career spans over 20 industries, impacting giants like Johnson Johnson AARP, which I'm a member of now, and McDonald's, which I love because it's my first job. A former teacher turns seasoned educator and advisor. She's recognized for her powerful writing, speaking and comprehensive coaching skills. With accolades like the 2024 Lincoln King Visionary Awards, honoree and Success Magazine's 2023 Women of Influence Nominee, deb is a beacon of inspiration. Today, she joins us to share her journey and insights on transforming challenges into opportunities for growth and success. Let's dive into a conversation filled with wisdom and inspiration. Welcome, deb, it's so nice to see you.
Deb Harrison:Oh, it's so good to be here. What an introduction. I love how you picked and chose things and put it all together. It was neat to hear it that way.
Dionne Malush:I love. I want to make the introduction so good that people want to listen, you know, and I think that's what makes it fun, because those first few seconds is when people pay the most attention. So you know, so we're just getting to know each other. You know, I'm excited that we're in the Super Connector Mastermind Group together and that we've met and sat and we're able to talk and, you know, as we grow and learn from each other, I just love the space that we're in. So let's talk about you. Can you tell me a little bit about a moment in your childhood that really stands up and shaped who you are today?
Deb Harrison:Sure. So there's a story that I love to tell and it actually became part of one of my keynotes from my childhood and when I was okay so I don't know the exact age I was in elementary school and I had determined that I needed a pet chimpanzee. And that's kind of an under, like it doesn't fully grasp because I can in myself, I feel it right, like you hear it in what you think versus in my heart. I had both my parents were alcoholics and there was abuse and there was a lot of trauma. You know, you start to develop these techniques to maneuver through those difficult circumstances, and one of mine was my faith, and so you know, like I can remember times going under my bed or going in my closet and praying and really kind of having this strong faith that whatever I needed, it was going to be okay, god was going to be there with me, and so I had decided I wanted a chimpanzee and, for whatever reason at that time, really felt that having a pet chimpanzee was going to make like a lot of these other circumstances in my life okay, because, like I have a pet chimpanzee, right. So like no matter what you list with, but I have a pet chimpanzee, I mean, and I had, like it was going to have a diaper and clothes. I mean I think there was probably stuff on TV that I had seen that had kind of put some of the stuff in my head, and so then my, you know, the next thing was like, how am I going to go about getting a pet chimpanzee right? Like they don't sell chimpanzees at the pet store, I'm not like slated to go on any African safaris right now, and so I had created a whole way of how I would get this chimpanzee right. That there was going to be a circus or traveling zoo or something in the area and that this chimpanzee that was not living its best life was going to escape and was going to and I lived, like up in the mountains of Newark and like this chimpanzee was going to like yeah, so I mean it was kind of a, but it was going to like find its way through the forest to me. And then, you know, I would announce that I had found this pet chimpanzee and it was going to be uncovered, that it hadn't really been getting the best care, and so they were going to determine that I then should be the rightful parent to this chimpanzee, right. So, like. So the thing in my mind was like I'm not only, you know, I don't only just want this chimpanzee, but like I've worked out the details for God, right, like I've got the plan for God, I'm going to tell God, like, hey, you don't even have to think about this, like I'm just going to tell you my plan, right, right. It's a very, very, very, very interesting way of thinking about things.
Deb Harrison:So, so I go out into the road and I can remember it was like it was that probably late spring, like that's in my mind, kind of what the air smelled like, because I lived up again, I lived up in the mountains and there was a breeze and the sun was shining, and I walked down the road to the spot that, in my mind, I had imagined the chimpanzee was going to come out of the woods and stood there and, you know, proceeded to pray to God, like, okay, you know, I'm ready for this pet chimpanzee. And I don't remember how much time passed, but I remember in my mind that I had waited a chunk of time, at least what felt like it to me at that age. And I'm waiting and I'm, you know, I'm opening my eyes and it hasn't happened. And I'm praying and sooner or later I start to realize, like this chimpanzee is not coming. And so this is pretty, pretty problematic to me because A this pet chimpanzee was going to make these difficult circumstances better.
Deb Harrison:And, secondly, I had believed that, because of my faith and because I had, you know, really believed that God was going to give this to me, it was going to happen. So now I'm faced with is my faith wrong? Does God not like me? Like what is the implications here of the fact that this chimpanzee is not coming to me out of the woods? And it was intense, right, because again, as adults, we can kind of look at some of that stuff when we can see the logic.
Deb Harrison:But for me as a child, like this was like okay, this is all worked out and things are going to be okay. And so I had to accept that. And I'm walking down the road, you know, with the sounds of spring. I should be this happy kid that I'm outside, you know, despite other things that are going on in the background of my life. But as I was going into the front yard I started to think about the logistics of what it would have been like to have the chimpanzee. So I'm living out this vision. But rather than thinking of this amazing, incredible experience, I started to think about the actual logic behind it. Like how am I going to? How would I have fed a chimpanzee? Like I don't even know what a chimpanzee eats? How?
Deb Harrison:Elementary school. Yeah, elementary school. I can't remember my exact age, but I was young. I mean, I was, it was. It was pretty young because, like, when I think about the way that I thought about it, I realize, but yet it was interesting that like even at that age, I was starting to go into this like, well, how was I going to care for it and how was I going to feed it and who was going to watch it while I was at school, right, like all these things are starting to happen, and realized like, oh, I guess it's good that I didn't get a chimpanzee, because like I really wouldn't have been able to care for the chimpanzee, like it would not have had a great life with me. That wouldn't have been the best case scenario.
Deb Harrison:And then I kind of it went into the story of my childhood, right, and that was kind of the end of it, until many, many years later I was thinking about some of the goals that I had gone after versus goals I hadn't gone after, and trying to pivot and trying to determine things and choices and how we always we not always, but we frequently glorify the path that didn't take.
Deb Harrison:Oh, if I'd only been able to do that all these amazing things would have happened, when we really don't know what amazing things we weren't would have happened or not happened. I should say we don't really know what, what would have gone on and thought that it's like. It's like chasing a chimpanzee, right, it's like you know how many times in our life do we do we symbolically chase chimpanzees without pausing to think about the fact that, like, maybe that is not what we're equipped to have in our life right now. And so I think about that a lot when I'm now, when I'm working with people, that that reality of that it's okay to want something and it's okay to have this idealized vision of it, but we also have to accept that that may not perhaps be what's going to be best for us and when we step back, in many ways is is actually not what's best for us.
Dionne Malush:So, yeah, great story, especially when you're young to realize that and you know I love the symbolism of the chimpanzee it should actually be part of your logo. You should create a brand around that little chimpanzee.
Deb Harrison:Oh, that's, a good idea, yeah.
Dionne Malush:Extremely cool. I'm sure there are some creative person that could make something awesome with it. So obviously, I don't know. If you know, I was a graphic designer before being in real estate, so I always have that feeling of my happening right. So when I feel that sense of creativity, I always want to let everyone know. So you made a switch from teaching to consulting, so how has that affected your work? Like, what is the difference between the two?
Deb Harrison:Oh, I love that question. So they feed, they fed each other. So when I was a teacher because early on in my childhood I was kind of like I loved to learn, I love to gain information and I love to share information, and that's still there. Sometimes my kids love that about me. Sometimes they're probably like I really did not need to know where peas come from, but thank you, so right, so what?
Deb Harrison:When I was a teacher, the I carried from childhood this interesting relationship that I had with change as a concept because, like a lot of times people will say like I'm struggling because I don't do well with change, when really we're changing every day, like we all have maneuvered and rocked change since the day we were born it's just as a concept. We tend to think like, okay, I'm not good with change because there are some things that we struggle with. So, because I struggled with some of the changes in my life where I wanted things to change but couldn't figure out how to make them change and changes that were happening that I didn't like, I started kind of developing these strategies and so as a teacher, that was part of what I would do is help kids to find the strengths that they have and adapt them to the material, right? You there? I was an English teacher. Not every kid loves English. There's a lot of kids that don't like it, so they'll come into the class. They taught 11th grade and many of them have already determined that they're not strong readers, they're not strong writers, they don't do well on tests. Some of those things aren't untrue, but that doesn't mean that they're going to define what their experience is going to be in that class or what the experience of their lives is going to be in that regard.
Deb Harrison:And so helping them to look at areas where they have been successful or gifts that they have and how can they apply them right. Like, maybe you struggle with grammar as a writer, but are you really good at solving things when there's you know, and there's not a really clear answer? Are you really creative? So, like, how can we use that creative problem solving for writing and trying to find the right words? So trying to like use the gifts that you have. And so that influenced my teaching very much, because I had such a thirst for learning myself and I wanted people to continue to feel thirsty for learning, not think of what happens within the confines of a classroom or when you're taking a test and getting whatever grade you're getting. And so when I pivoted to consulting full time Because even as a teacher I was doing some stuff, like different people would have things they would want my advice on, from, like, an editing perspective. When I pivoted to consulting full time which is a whole other story for another day.
Deb Harrison:The teaching right, because as a teacher I was a lover of teaching and learning fed into everything I did. Right, like like considering the fact that not everybody's going to learn information the same way. So when you're either giving a workshop to your organization and you're trying to disseminate Tasks that people need to carry out, how can you understand how different people are going to best learn that material? Because it's not necessarily going to be. You know, everybody's going to learn through a presentation. Some people might require more audio, some might require more visual, some might require even someone on one time.
Deb Harrison:But how can you understand that and do the best that you can within the resources that you have and, in addition to that, to help people be thirsty and curious and ask questions and feel comfortable saying I don't know when I don't understand? Right, like the old saying, there's no such thing as a stupid question. Like teachers will say that a lot because you want students to ask questions, because if they don't ask questions they don't understand. That should be the same concept our entire lives, right? You should feel comfortable sitting in a corporate meeting with executives saying can we go over that again? I don't. I'm not clear on what you just said.
Dionne Malush:Right, 100% right, and even in our brokerage. You know, when they come to me with questions, I want, I want, no matter what, what the question is, because I know that they need help at that moment. And you're right, a lot of people won't say it, they're afraid to ask, and I always tell everyone asks is the most powerful three letter word in the English language, english right. So you realize, without asking, you're never going to know. So I love that that you build that into to this relationship between the two.
Deb Harrison:Yeah, and I like the connection with real estate to and I think about it from a variety of different perspectives with, first off, as a real estate agent. I've never done real estate myself as an agent but I have friends who do it and listening to them kind of share like all of the various levels and things that go into making a decision about how are you going to, what are the questions you're going to ask and how are you going to frame things so like to your point. But also, I think, as a buyer and a seller, right, you've got to be willing to ask questions. As a buyer, you've got to be able to say, like, what about my house? Do you think we should change and be able to receive that information. And, as a buyer, to be able to ask the real estate person like I don't, I don't know what I'm looking for, what are some things that I should look for.
Deb Harrison:But I think there's that. There's that preconceived notion we bring to situations where if we ask something, we're going to seem stupid, right, it's the whole like when you walk onto a car sales lot, you got to pretend you know everything so they don't try to take advantage, right? So we come, come like thinking that less questions is going to make us more protected, and it's the opposite. When you don't ask those questions, then you get, you get, can't, can't handle.
Dionne Malush:Well, I'm glad that you decided to do this and I know one thing like you've had some tough times in your life, right, yeah, yeah. So can you give me maybe an instance as an adult, something that you've pushed through to the other side, how you, how you've taken that adversity and turn it into a success?
Deb Harrison:So I'll use which is really the story of, really, when I pivoted. It was that same time period in my life when I pivoted from teaching to consulting. So I had, when I had had my, my son, my oldest I had gone from full time to part time. He was born with some cognitive delays and so it required some additional care and so I was working part time. And few years down the road several years down the road at this point so I guess it was like three years later the budget got cut at the school that I was teaching at. When you go from full time to part time, excuse me, you sever your tenure, so you no longer are tenure, and tenure is kind of that thing that's in place to help you can still lose your job, but it keeps seniority in place. So once you're part time you no longer are. On that, like the chart of hierarchy, right, you go to the bottom if you're part time.
Deb Harrison:So the budget was cut and I lost my position and at that point I was going unexpectedly. I was unexpected, somewhat unexpectedly going through a divorce. I was becoming a single parent. I had some pretty big health stuff going on which we were still trying to investigate at the time. So, like I had just made some, they had just made some discoveries and we're doing additional testing. So I was becoming a single parent, was going through this health crisis and was being told you know, really sorry, but your position's cut.
Deb Harrison:And I remember standing there thinking, like a saying I use is it's gonna be okay? Like that's my one of the things I tell myself like it's gonna be okay. Like that phrase came into my head. But like, right after it was like it's gonna be okay. But how Right? Like okay, I know I'm gonna get on the other side of this, but like what is it gonna take to get on the other side of this situation? Like these seems so insurmountable and I know that there's a way, but for both, from an emotional perspective, financial perspective, a physical perspective, like all these things were coming in and I just kind of resolved that like one step at a time.
Deb Harrison:Which is what? Like now I end up recommending to people right, like well, I gotta do the first thing, the first thing. Like I've just found out that I lost my job, right. So like there's only so many things that I can control in this situation. So my next step is gonna be like, what are my options? What's my budget like right now? What are the boundaries between you know how bills are gonna get paid?
Deb Harrison:So starting to figure that out and it became that became kind of my way to move through every day was the like what can I do today that's gonna move me forward and allowing myself to grieve the process rather than trying to like push it down because, like it was really intense, hard stuff that was going on, and having struggled with depression and anxiety my whole life, that you know that was there. That was very present. So those, a lot of those, those messages that I've been playing since a small child were in my head of, you know, panic, worry, everything's falling apart, right, right, and you can't, so you have to acknowledge it because it's not gonna go away. So I had to say to myself like, okay, you feel really bad. It's valid that you feel really bad and address that in ways that are important, whether it's talking to somebody who can help you, right, which is definitely something that I did Seek, seek, seek counsel and somebody that can be on the outs, yeah, outside of the situation, even if you've got great friends and family.
Deb Harrison:You need somebody on the outside of the situation where you're not worried about how you say things, that you can kind of express very freely what you're going through. And then, each day, what is it that I today can do that's gonna move me forward, right? Is it something for my health? Is it something for figuring out the budget? Is it something for figuring out how I can help the kids maneuver through the you know changing home situation? And so you just get yourself into those things.
Deb Harrison:And if you break it down into those pieces, if you say, okay, today I'm gonna make this doctor's appointment, then you can get that doctor's appointment done. And then, instead of looking at the like I'm not moving forward or I'm stuck in this horrible situation, you've done something right. So you check it off the list, and I mean I would actually write things down and I still do that. Check it off the list, right, that, or scratch it off, but so you can see that you're moving forward and you're able to actually acknowledge that progress, so that those become your wins. And so, while you're not at the other side, where it's the. You know the okay, right, the ultimate, okay, you're heading in that direction and you're fulfilling that second part. Right, the but, how, the but, how is the? One step at a time.
Dionne Malush:Wow. So that's a great advice, and you know, I think about this recognition you've recently received and your 2024 Lincoln King Visionary Awards honoree. Tell me what that means.
Deb Harrison:Yeah. So it's really neat is that social media, which I joined the mastermind. You mentioned us being in the mastermind together and a lot of the stuff that I had been doing. I had been doing but I hadn't been being very public or visible about it for a variety of different reasons. I'm sure we could have whole conversations on that right, but you just kind of you're doing your stuff and joining the mastermind and realizing the importance of letting people know what you're doing so that they can celebrate with you, so that you can, you can grow yourself, that they can grow with you, so that people know that you're out there. So I started being more visible about it and somebody that was friends with somebody else I was friends with, so it like that's how it came up with a person's feed Like six years ago, one of the people.
Deb Harrison:Yeah, it's like one of the people involved. Right, it's like one of the people involved in this, this Lincoln King Visionary Awards thing. They're one of the founders of it, and so they, I guess they said they saw like one of my posts the one day and liked it, and I think, like you know the social media algorithm, the way that works they started getting more of my stuff and they said that it was, you know, they didn't really know anything about me other than what they were seeing on my social media feed, but that they were like every time when your post will come up, it would be these messages, you know. And then I started getting more to understand more about you, like look into it. And when he reached out to me, ultimately said he was like he said it, like just hit him. He's like this is, this is what we need, like this needs to be one of the people, before he even really knew what I did. And then he reached out and was like can you tell me more about what you do? Because what I'm seeing on your social media is telling me that you're somebody that we should be recognizing in this way, and that's how it all started.
Deb Harrison:So, yeah, it wasn't even something I had ever heard about and now it's gonna be in February. Yeah, it's soup and it's a like. I like the term visionary, like I think that that's a cool word, because it's not just about what we have or haven't accomplished or what we will or won't accomplish, but the term visionary defines our hope, right, what we want to see, and that driving effort. And I think that the effort like I talk about, like effort, effort equals excellence. Right, it doesn't have to be the achievement, but like the effort, the desire and the want for those things, like the fact that that's what's being acknowledged and it's not necessarily something specifically that I've done, but it's that desire to be, I think, is really cool.
Dionne Malush:So I'm gonna ask you about these three numbers and you tell me what they got here. Okay, 100, 10,000 20,000 Followers.
Deb Harrison:Listen, this is crazy. So December 5th, some December 15th or 18th I'd have to look back at the dates I had 23 followers on YouTube. Okay and oh. There's so many ways I could go with this story. I'm gonna. This is Deb doesn't always do a great job of keeping things brief, so I'm gonna try.
Deb Harrison:I have I've always loved video content. I think that video content has incredible ability to allow people to connect and hear your voice and see your sincerity, whether or not they can meet you in person, and Social media has allowed us to spread that and a lot of times, social media and the internet and I talk about this often gets a bad reputation For because there are a lot of negative things that happen, but it's not the social media and the internet that are the issue, it's the negative messages being perpetuated. It also has an incredible. It's an incredible gift to us to be able to communicate hope and joy and optimism. So when I think back, like 2011, I had decided I was gonna start doing like, more video, video content and I started and then I stopped. Okay, think about. And I still, even now, even though I tell people not to regret and think about the past, even now, when I think about it, I'm like, oh, the number of followers I would probably have just because of the length of time, because that's how it works Like, over time, things build. So when I think about the amount of time. So I've always loved video content and I thought that go go lives and things like that were Neat and I just enjoy the creation process. I enjoy putting things together and creating messages and stuff. So it was.
Deb Harrison:It was in December of last year and my YouTube count was was fairly low, but I was creating content and stuff and I was thinking like I wonder what? Like what does make somebody all of a sudden start Getting followers? Like what is the process there that happens? And I started digging into the analytics. So YouTube now has something called shorts and I had been putting my stuff on the feed but I really wasn't paying a whole lot of attention. I was creating my content and it was going across my social media stuff. But I started looking at the analytics on YouTube and paying attention to, like what are people actually watching it? What time a day are they watching it? Um, what is the stuff? When are they clicking off of things and when are they staying on it, and.
Deb Harrison:But I did this in a very mindful way and I this is a message that I want to make sure that I say what I'm talking to people about the analytics. I want to use the analytics to drive decisions, but I didn't want to use the analytics to define my voice and what I was going to put out there, because there are a lot of strategies you can use to get big on YouTube by looking at what are going to be the niches that you can fall into, because, like, if you hit a niche that's popular but isn't too saturated, then you get a better chance, etc. But I knew that for me, like, my message is who I am, like, my goal is not just to set out to be really popular on YouTube. My goal was to use YouTube as a message, delivering the message I already had. So I had to weigh, looking at the data and looking at what was and wasn't successful with making sure I didn't alter or adjust my voice and my format in any way that would feel artificial, right, like there's all kinds of things about thumbnails. There's certainly some stuff there.
Deb Harrison:So once I once I kind of dug into that and realized that I realized a lot of it had to do with being very consistent with the messaging right. The more that I was consistent, so I did something three days in a row. Then I was big, then I was picking up pace and so I started really paying attention to that and just Creating and creating and creating and creating. And being okay with putting something up that I really liked and watching nobody like it, right, being really comfortable with the failure component of it. That like if I woke up and was like this is a great idea and I was all really excited about it, I put a video up and it flopped. I need to take it down. I said, okay, that's gonna stay up there. Maybe someday people will go back and look at it and some people will really like it, or maybe just gonna stay up there with zero likes.
Deb Harrison:But like getting really comfortable with failure in order to keep trying, keep putting stuff out there and just kind of you know, really being consistent with it. And so I can say like there's been a couple times where I've experimented a little bit, but for the most part I haven't really changed a whole lot about my format, other than just being much more frequent in getting the stuff out there and again, like I think, when people ask top recommendations, I would say this is my favorite course of content. I would totally recommend Almost every Agree frequency. You got to be consistent and I would say look at your analytics, but don't let your analytics define your voice. Let them help you, let them influence your decisions. Now you do it, but if you find out that a video you really liked didn't do well, but you really liked it and that's important to you, like, leave the video. That's who you are and the followers were come and then, once it starts picking up, yeah, go ahead.
Dionne Malush:You're making an impact, we're making an impact. That's what we're doing. We're affecting more people than you could even dream possible by our messages, and I think that's critically important to remember in this journey that we're on, we're going at it and we're giving hope and joy to people. We don't have to be fake to do that. We don't have to dress the part or be the part, or we don't have to. We can be ourselves. It's an incredible opportunity and I love watching you. Thank you, that's very nice. I can't finish that go ahead.
Deb Harrison:Oh no, no, that means a lot, no, I think. Just echoing what you said, I mean first off, thank you. That was, I feel, your enthusiasm for my momentum, and that means more than I can kind of express in words. It's like when people say, speak positive words into what I'm doing. Every time somebody does that, it becomes part of permanent part of my journey forward. Like from now forward, everything that I do is gonna be partially fueled by you just saying that to me. So I think that's just a very cool concept.
Deb Harrison:And in that vein, like you said, I mean I see the analytics. It's people all over the world Like how cool is that that I'm sitting at my computer, whatever time of day, it doesn't even matter. Whatever time of day, I post that video that I've got something on my heart and that's the message that I wanna produce. And whether it's that moment or it's 20 hours later, somebody somewhere else in the world clicks on that and hears that there's a connection there, right? That's that's so powerful that we're able to do that, and I just never take that for granted, never take it for no, never do.
Dionne Malush:And you know I'm thinking about as we wrap up. You've said so many great things today and I want to know what's one piece of advice you give to our listeners about embracing their own journey, now that you've been on yours?
Deb Harrison:Oh, One piece of advice, just one, okay, and I don't want too long of a pause, but I want to make sure I pick, I would say so. I think it's gonna go to my tagline that I use on a lot of my things, and that's the be your best you. And that be your best you is in the moment, on the day and the journey you're on in the life that you're living. Your gifts, your skills, your message, your voice are unique and Amazing in a way that nobody else's right, nobody else is better at being you than you, and you matter, and to just to be that, to be the best you You've literally made my whole day.
Dionne Malush:Oh, thank you, it's so good. So, in wrapping up, so we're gonna conclude unfortunately conclude today's episode of shine on success with the incredible dem Harrison. Her journey from a passionate educator to Renowned growth and change catalysts a testament to the principles of persistence, specialized knowledge and turning adversity into opportunity, as the fully appeal always says, thinking for a rich.
Dionne Malush:I'm D on malice. Thanking you for joining us. Remember, no matter the challenges you face, there's always a path to success and growth. Stay inspired until next time. Keep shining bright. And just a reminder to follow us on social media as we journey together and turning life's challenges into triumphs. Keep shining and see every obstacle as an opportunity. Bye, dev, bye, thank you.