Realer Than Most Podcast
HOPE WE ALL LONG LIVE ft. KIR 215 | REALER THAN MOST PODCAST | EP. 06
Dive headfirst into the pulsating heart of Philly's rap scene with me as I bring you face-to-face with KIR 215's relentless hustle and the reverberating beats of Nick Gritt's crossover from courtside to mic-side. Witness the grind and glory of these homegrown talents, and hear firsthand how tracks like "Big Facts" are carving out new legends in the city's storied streets. We're pulling back the curtain on the music that's defining a generation, with gritty tales of transition, from viral TikTok fame to strategic label negotiations that are reshaping the rules of the game.
Ever wondered what makes Philly's rap game tick? Get ready for an unbarred look into the creative process, fierce industry debates, and the crucial role of authenticity in the labyrinth of artist management. You'll get the inside track on the delicate dance of artist collaborations and the seismic shifts in consumption habits that are turning the industry on its head. We're not here to play it safe; we're here to shake the table with bold declarations and even bolder ambitions, all while paying homage to the Philly Engineers who sharpen the cutting edge of our city's sound.
Cap off this sonic excursion with a nod to the titans and hopefuls alike, from the heated matchup of T.I. vs. 50 Cent to the potent declarations of ambition that set the stage for a relentless second half of the year. It's all about cutting through the noise, making power moves, and keeping a laser focus on the artists and producers who dare to push boundaries. So gear up, Philly fam, and let's ride out with the unfiltered takes and raw truths that pulse through these legendary city streets. Welcome to the Realer than Most podcast—where it's as real as the streets.
Dive headfirst into the pulsating heart of Philly's rap scene with me as I bring you face-to-face with KIR 215's relentless hustle and the reverberating beats of Nick Gritt's crossover from courtside to mic-side. Witness the grind and glory of these homegrown talents, and hear firsthand how tracks like "Big Facts" are carving out new legends in the city's storied streets. We're pulling back the curtain on the music that's defining a generation, with gritty tales of transition, from viral TikTok fame to strategic label negotiations that are reshaping the rules of the game.
Ever wondered what makes Philly's rap game tick? Get ready for an unbarred look into the creative process, fierce industry debates, and the crucial role of authenticity in the labyrinth of artist management. You'll get the inside track on the delicate dance of artist collaborations and the seismic shifts in consumption habits that are turning the industry on its head. We're not here to play it safe; we're here to shake the table with bold declarations and even bolder ambitions, all while paying homage to the Philly Engineers who sharpen the cutting edge of our city's sound.
Cap off this sonic excursion with a nod to the titans and hopefuls alike, from the heated matchup of T.I. vs. 50 Cent to the potent declarations of ambition that set the stage for a relentless second half of the year. It's all about cutting through the noise, making power moves, and keeping a laser focus on the artists and producers who dare to push boundaries. So gear up, Philly fam, and let's ride out with the unfiltered takes and raw truths that pulse through these legendary city streets. Welcome to the Realer than Most podcast—where it's as real as the streets.
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Speaker 1:Moose Podcast. End of this show, sir yo he stay consistent, stay working, you know, I mean and I vouch for that yo matter of fact, he got something out. Right now y'all gotta check out big facts featuring yaya, flawless man.
Speaker 2:We got everybody knowing. Like we from the same neighborhood, yes and no. Like I'm gonna see this right now. Like I don't think nobody like work harder than you in the hood, bro, like in germantown period. I don't think nobody that I ever seen rap Work harder than me, bro, real shit. Like if you really look at what you got out YouTube Whatever you wanna and you match your shit With other people's shit. Like Like you been consistent For like a decade bro.
Speaker 5:So I gotta get that too.
Speaker 1:That's love man.
Speaker 2:That's love. Yeah, we got care to him. We got really good. Yeah, been like man. We got character. Yeah, been like a decade like straight too, non-stop. Yeah, non-stop, bro, real red.
Speaker 1:Well, we gonna um listen, man, what's the song that you know, like you probably want us to play right now? Well, I I would say your latest. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Big facts, man.
Speaker 1:I'm just in that mood right now.
Speaker 4:Let's go big facts we got Kira.
Speaker 2:And Yaya, flawless man, big facts man. Let's get this joint to play real quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, give big facts, play, oh man, the one in front of you really. Oh man, the one in front of you really went easy, yeah.
Speaker 5:As soon as I walk in this bitch's life, this ain't a regular trap, shit, I'm only fucking the baddest. Hoes. My shorty come with an accent, say you got cash, nigga, just show me them racks. Then Heard y'all talking about back then, boy, I double the M. When I back in Brand new AP, brand new rose, they got me back in that mode. Heard he back doing one of the bros, nigga, just breaking the code. Grab my crib, turn to a trap house. We used to play on the stove. It's so psyched me bringing the max out, I got set on my toes. Cross that line. I'm crossing them 9-1-1, bitch, if it ain't by no bankroll, I don't talk to them Givin' em facts.
Speaker 5:I'm out here runnin' the stacks. Yeah, they gon' talk with the ass. It's gettin' dark with the ass. I'm out here givin' em facts. I put the hood on the mat. Yeah, they gon' talk with the ass. It's gettin' dark with the ass. I'm out here givin' em facts. I'm out here running the stacks. Yeah, they gon' talk with the ass. It's getting dark with the ass. I'm out here giving them facts. I put the hood on the mat. Yeah, they gon' talk with the ass. It's getting dark with the ass.
Speaker 3:Put the body in the trunk, leave a body in the dump, kill this rhyme with the pump. I say jump, they gon' jump. Four is rhyme. Four is rhyme. Hundred bands getting thumped, fifty bands. Don't say no rhyme, bitch, I do, it's what I want. I. I got a. I got a problem with speaking and really living that lifestyle. She wanna be sending them hitters. They spending a tiny a life. Little bitch, better pipe down. You can lose your life now. My head is one stripes now. Pretty bitches, they'll fight. Now I've been in a trap. I don't feel where they at. Ran it up, got a bag. Keep the 40 in the Mac. Nina Need nothing on my lap, mostly toes. Really cap Half your niggas running laps. Been that bitch.
Speaker 2:Yeah man, that was good to look at. Y'all, y'all close man. Yeah man, big facts man.
Speaker 5:Yeah, man, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2:I was fucking with that. John Heavy, though I ain't gonna hold you, I'm in that mood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I ain't gonna lie though, how you actually come up with that one. What was? Your process of coming up with big facts.
Speaker 4:I ain't gonna lie, all the new production that be coming out, bro, I've tried to put my sound on them drums. So it's like, even with the little what's that shake your hips, shit, what's that called the house beats Right, I drop the drum, like that, and I put my own sound on the drum. So whatever production is like, you know what I'm saying I'll try to put my sound on that to make it, because I don't try to take nobody's flow into that shit, I just try to put my shit on the new production.
Speaker 2:You feel me right? Yeah, we got, we got. Introduce yourself too, man. You. You on the camera too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, man, yeah I don't want to move too fast either, so yeah, I'm going to take it back. I went all the way into his production. In the beginning man, I wanted to start from the beginning with Care, so we're going to start off by asking who is Care? 215.
Speaker 4:Care, just bro. I'm a nigga from the trench, bro, trying to show motherfuckers that you can get this shit bro. I feel like Niggas don't know we really can get there bro.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 4:Air buy. Right, so it's like not just saying air buy at once, but everybody can make it to that point. So I'm just trying to show niggas like, man, if I come from down here and I can get up there, man, you can do the same shit, you feel me? So that's just who I am. I'm just an inspiring motherfucker. I'm inspiring everybody from where I'm from, Everybody that come from. Where I come from, you feel me Right A little motivation type shit.
Speaker 1:Right, speaking of where you come from, where you from.
Speaker 4:Haines Street man Haines Street.
Speaker 1:That's my block G.
Speaker 4:That's my block G man Shout out to four.
Speaker 2:Big four man, man, real man germantown talk about it bro bro, bro listen, yeah, and that and and you know what? Else. I like how you take pride in that too yeah, bro yeah, I got to. I ain't got no choice at this point all right, I'm gonna do too much, real right bro, real right, hey yo, so look right. This is the first question I got for you.
Speaker 2:And and then I can swing it back to you, right. One thing I just wanted to know. Like you know, you got the Long Live brand, but it's Long Live, it don't say your name. So I want you, I know, but I want you to explain what Long Live brand mean to you and how it came about. And then I want you to explain what makes you brand meaning you and how it came about. And then I want you to explain what makes you like stand on it.
Speaker 4:So, so much I just felt a long-lived brain is like it's for everybody I've lost bro. I was losing so many homies at a point in time where I couldn't just say one name without saying the other. So instead of like me just shouting everybody name just was a long-lived brain. You feel me? I'm doing this shit for everybody. I lost type shit and I ain't got no. I ain't got no choice but to stand on that. You feel me like what else I'm gonna stand on if I ain't gonna do it for the motherfuckers?
Speaker 1:that ain't here so that's just what I'm on, bro.
Speaker 2:Swing it back to you, brody.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's actually. That's fire Selfless. I actually wanted to just get to the Nick Gritt, you know what I mean, nick Gritt. Yeah man. So you started rapping what after playing basketball or around the same time.
Speaker 4:No, yeah, yeah, it was after. After right, Right at the end of the little college shit, I started rapping and shit.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, all right. So you started rapping. What made you passionate about you getting in the booth and just starting to rap?
Speaker 4:I'm probably passionate about anything. I don't know if I was knitting sweaters or some shit, I don't even know. Once I stopped playing ball, it was like I had to be passionate about something If I wasn't doing shit.
Speaker 1:It was going to be like Alright, so you thought you was corny, though Like you was like my music wasn't At the time.
Speaker 4:My man was rapping, my man Trap Boy was rapping. I was managing him and shit and he was, he wasn't going to the studio and all that how he was supposed to, and I was just in there one day Trap Boy from Main. Street. Yeah, I was in there with my man known and I'm like yo, let me get in there. I was playing around. I really didn't want to go in there and be a rapper Right, right, right.
Speaker 4:But with my homies like yo, this is hard. I ain't say I thought I was ass, but once I thought, like I heard a was a with something like that, I was like, oh, but I could do this like this, you mean, y'all like that, yeah yeah, you feel me so at first it was like I'm a man in chum, but once he was on, some like man, I ain't.
Speaker 4:When he ended up getting booked, I was like, yeah, I gotta go ahead. I'm gonna just take this under the wing right, just learn this. I can learn from it. And I really just started liking it. So after that it was up from there I ain't. It wasn't no turning back.
Speaker 1:Was it a song? You was like oh yeah, I really know how to rap.
Speaker 4:A specific genre. I'm trying to think it was a song like that. I can't remember what song it was. I think it was like have Nothing or something. It was like when they had Dat that's how long I've been in this shit when they had like Dat Piff. My mixtapes and all that my mixtapes was going on there, right? So it was something. It was a song called Like have Nothin' or something, and I had said some shit and I'm like Yo, I can really rap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I really could do this shit.
Speaker 4:Yeah. I can go ahead and rap and you mean yourself, you like oh yeah, I got this shit in the bag, you might not be like top tier, but you realize you could do this shit.
Speaker 1:So I realize that passionate about this shit.
Speaker 2:You see, I um y'all walk through the door. I ain't like five minutes go by, I know feel me. I like that niggas would be too thorough like like knew you your whole life. I knew you, Bro. I seen you start rapping all the way. Now I could have just not said shit and could have just came on this interview acting like I ain't know who you was.
Speaker 2:Like, I've been around him like 80 fucking times. We actually like, really from the same I could have act like that ain't mean nothing, like feel me like, but um, I ain't gonna lie, man. See. See, now my questions for you gonna be a little different because, like you know, yeah, like where we like really, really come from and all that. But first thing I wanted to ask you man, people like doing this late In interviews and stuff, but I want to do it early, like who your top five in the city?
Speaker 4:Like Rap wise.
Speaker 2:Top five.
Speaker 4:I ain't gonna hold no punches back, type shit. Don't, please, don't, we going right in Matter of fact, I might got top five. That I like, bro, that I feel like, cause there's a lot of artists that I feel like Yo y'all deserve to have that spotlight, but niggas, that's hot. That I feel like, always was hot. Quilly, he always been hot, bro. Nigga always been hot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you gotta give it to Quilly he got what he got.
Speaker 2:He number yeah.
Speaker 4:I ain't gonna lie, bro. The nigga Sean Smith Hot as shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is Hot as shit.
Speaker 4:I like the little nigga Tora, the nigga little nigga Tora.
Speaker 2:Hot as shit yeah.
Speaker 4:I like Leaf Word shit. Leaf Word guy, he got some shit and it's like it's somebody else. Bro, I ain't gonna Cause I don't really listen To a lot of Philly music, but when I see an artist, that I know I be like ew, he dangerous, because I could just say any artist right now bro, I'm really trying to say an artist that I ain't even going off buzzes or nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just who you like, just who.
Speaker 4:I heard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you not, that's four. You take your time bro, you tough?
Speaker 4:I don't know bro.
Speaker 3:I don't know man.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm going gonna try to think of a fifth person when I think about.
Speaker 2:I swear I'm gonna say out of nowhere. And the reason I asked you that, bro, because, like I was just explaining off camera, like I always felt like when everybody was rapping a certain way and trying to have a certain sound, you was on some like leather jacket with the fur and you was on some like leather jacket with the fur and the chain. You feel me, bro, just a certain way Talk about different shit. I remember you had like this song for the shorties that was popping a little bit.
Speaker 1:Shit, it was actually on. It was on, yo, he popped up on my TV, bro you popped up on my TV.
Speaker 4:That shit had like a million views. It was on.
Speaker 2:BET James.
Speaker 4:Oh trauma.
Speaker 1:You talking about trauma.
Speaker 2:I'm really beat up then, bro, that was a good joint. We was living on Magnolia and it was on MTV James.
Speaker 4:That shit was crazy. The nigga right down the street getting his video on MTV James.
Speaker 5:I'm in the mirror Right down the street from me standing.
Speaker 4:My TV is backing me. I'm in the mirror, nigga, right down the street from me, standing right there. My TV is backing me. My TV is going. I don't care on the job that's so crazy.
Speaker 2:What the fuck going on? It was like a chick note, right yeah that was fire.
Speaker 5:That was fire, so the reason.
Speaker 2:I asked you the top five in the city thing is because we going through a fucking crisis right now where everybody trying to sound the same, trying to sound the same.
Speaker 4:Yo, that shit be cooking.
Speaker 2:You feel me, so that's why I asked you who your top five. That shit be cooking, because I always seen you on some different shit.
Speaker 4:You seen the niggas I named? They don't rap the same.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 4:I ain't going to say I don't like that shit bro, but I ain't into trying to be like somebody else.
Speaker 2:I don't like that shit. I ain't into that. I'm going to see that shit. That ain't my job, bro. Let's keep it real though.
Speaker 1:Do you really listen to the scenery of Philadelphia, though? Like let's keep it real, like I hear the drill shit that go on, but I don't like that's not my. You don't know the scenery.
Speaker 4:I know everything about it, even with the drill To the shake your hips shit. I had to be involved Because I had artists that was involved with that. So, I was really like I had this scout shit, but it ain't something I'm turning on. Yeah, like yeah, let me listen to this drill shit what you mean.
Speaker 1:You no, no, no Wait wait wait, I know a lot of things. Way more front, no front. The jigging joint was it.
Speaker 4:Jigging. No, that was my shit bro.
Speaker 3:Niggas ain't like that drum A couple niggas that.
Speaker 4:I signed to. Ain't like it. They like oh yeah, no, I'm like this drum hot as shit.
Speaker 1:No one will dance with me jigging.
Speaker 4:That drum was hot as shit. It would have been pushed the right way, bro, yeah bro, I swear that drum was hot as shit, bro you feel me. So you just said I I never knew that no I had the five-star young boys, the little come on hit it once. Yeah, that was my drum. Oh yeah, that, what that was my drum, I'm tripping, I knew y'all.
Speaker 1:You knew that, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I knew that Like they was under you.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they was in the artist.
Speaker 3:Shout out to them. Shout out to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they was under me, I'm going to put this shit on this pod.
Speaker 5:I'm going to put that shit on this pod. Put that shit on this pod. Hey you know V.
Speaker 4:I'm going to put that shit on this pod I'm going to put that shit on this pod I want everybody to hear.
Speaker 4:I want everybody to know, because it's been a little shit going on out here whispers and all that Shout out to Five Star. When them little niggas came out, bro, yeah, ain't none of these niggas that's popping, or these niggas that got labels, nothing against none of them. Nah, that's real. I got respect for everybody that got they label and got what they got going on. But when them young boys Was brought to them Niggas was like man, oh, they got y'all, you mean, or even y'all got to pay me To manage them. And you believed in them. A real Haines Street vet.
Speaker 4:That nigga came, he died and his man is Fats. Fats was like Yo, my son's rap, bro, I need you to. You mean, I said yo, let me hear him. He took him to Bugatti. I'm like yo, tap in, let me know If it's. You mean he brought it to me. Like yo, bro, this shit, listen to this shit bro, this shit, I'm like yo. And they had something On TikTok dances. He like yo, they they play football and shit bro, but they they trying to rap and they got a little. You mean they got people doing their dance on tiktok yeah, right, you know what?
Speaker 4:I do. I'm like, all right, well, listen, bro, we're gonna, we're gonna figure this shit out. Then, if we believe in these young boy, my man, this, his man, we're gonna make this shit make sense, right, you feel me? We get the youngins under us. They should start going crazy on tiktok nigga. I'm already got the anr connects and all. I'm sending this to a and r's and they looking me off. All right, yeah, we're gonna get with you. I feel you're man, I should hit the roof. Look at that out. The 30 000 videos on tick tock them labels was calling me back to back to back to back. They was waking me up at night calling me from overseas and all that we republic from egypt. You feel me? Yeah, so it was like Come on bro.
Speaker 5:Republic of Egypt.
Speaker 4:I believe in that shit and shout out them young niggas bro. Because they did what they supposed to do On that joint. You feel me, but I just feel like it's a lot of noise that be going on and I don't say shit. I don't address shit online and none of that. I ain't none of that.
Speaker 1:You feel me, we talk the most.
Speaker 4:Let niggas talk, but it is what it is. Everybody know the story, and if y'all don't know the story, y'all gonna know the fuck today.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So what's the ending story of that Like? Is they still long live, or are they?
Speaker 4:No, they end up. I mean, we signed to Motown, they was doing they thing and it just was a lot of In between shit that was going on, man. That I tried to prevent From the take their own. They take their own path. You feel me, but I feel like when you got a team, you gotta y'all gotta do that collectively. So it didn't happen that way. They end up getting dropped from motel, dropped from us, and they just you mean they went and signed with somebody else. I don't know what happened after that.
Speaker 4:I stopped paying attention after that, but yeah, man, and I always you mean good, tell people, man, that um like right now, bro we in a world of phases like everything is temporary.
Speaker 2:It's about waves, bro. Yeah, bro, we everything temporary. So crazy. When you got that little shake it shake your hips. I just was telling him we was in here arguing. All day, like a month ago, and I'm telling him Like he like Bro, we're just certain, I'm like nah, bro, them dance. Young boys Changed the world, not. No state Not no city.
Speaker 5:Let me tell you something.
Speaker 4:He said they changed the world, the world, the whole world.
Speaker 1:I was watching Fucking.
Speaker 4:It's a.
Speaker 1:Boosie. It's a Boosie documentary when I was it. It's a Boosie documentary.
Speaker 4:It's a Louisiana documentary and they was talking about all these CEOs that helped Boosie get on when he was a young boy. And they like, yeah, these CEOs, man, he grabbed this artist. And I was like, yo, we changed the way of fucking music, bro, like we shifted the music. I was like, bro, I had something to do with that. If I die today, nigga, I had something to do with affecting Philadelphia music scene scene, bro, and it was.
Speaker 3:It wasn't even a cocky joint it just was like damn bro like I didn't even recognize it, like I ain't recognizing if I go today tomorrow.
Speaker 4:I don't the. I ain't gonna say I did enough, but I did something to help change the music scene in the city.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying so that shit, bro, that shit reached Niggas. Luka Doncic was playing ball to this joint. My wife and them was dancing, Bro. That shit reached the same level as DJ Crazy joint.
Speaker 2:That shit, bro. Come on, bro. The same level that shake that shit. The same level. Give me one time the same thing. You heard them neck to neck Every time. Every time, bro, it was either that song or that song.
Speaker 4:That shit was going crazy bro.
Speaker 2:Man, I ain't gonna lie, man, I definitely Give you your flowers for that.
Speaker 1:Cause I'm not going to lie, give him a round of applause for that man. I'm not going to lie, bro, I'm really not going to lie.
Speaker 2:I'm tapped in. I did not know the five star young bulls Was long lived. I never knew that man.
Speaker 1:But let's get back to it, man. We going to jump around A little bit, man, but we got to get right back to it. We going right back To the KARS story, yeah.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:Alright. So you on the music scene, you know what I mean. Uh, you left basketball alone. You, you found that song. You said you, you had that song, that you knew it was it and uh, was that in due time?
Speaker 4:no, that was that was. That was way before that, yeah, yeah, I mean, I had me like Four or five mixtapes.
Speaker 1:Well, I wanna speak on it In due time. Yeah, let's speak on that, man. What was the creative process when you came up With that video, man? Because I'ma be honest, man, wait, wait, we gonna talk. I wanna talk about, like Cause yo, every video I watch of yours, bro, like I'm going to be honest, bro, you ain't on no Philly shit at all, like at all Like you on a whole nother level when it come to creativity. I appreciate that bro so I know you a part of it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it can't be the camera. Yo, that's crazy bro. Yo that's crazy bro. Real rap bro. He even peeped that.
Speaker 1:That's crazy Like for real, because it's serious. You know what I'm saying. Watching your production Is like, oh, he's serious About his work, so how do you even come up with your creative process, bro? Like for your videos.
Speaker 4:Like that shit just really be what I'm feeling, bro, and I don't be really wanting to like my last video, the drone with the Big Facts drone. I was watching one of the Gunna videos and that shit just was fly as shit. It was like the drone prodded and we're offset. I'm like, ew, this shit hard. But it gave me my own vision. Like yo, I need my joint to be like this because my thing is, bro, you can. You can control how people look at you dog. People, people in this world is so they so they conform to everything, so much that you can control how motherfuckers look at you dog. If you just do it right, you can make a fucking video. And there's one snap in this video. You know people gonna look at this this way yeah nigga.
Speaker 4:I know I knew before I start dressing like that people was gonna look at me like oh yeah, you want some bougie trying. I wanted people to look at me like that. You feel me? I wanted to separate myself. I wanted my shit to be fly and still, you still talking that gutter shit. But you want some fly, ass shit. You want some. You feel what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying so I already knew like man. Once I knew I could control how people motherfuckers, look at me, I was like yo, I'm taking this to the moon, bro. And once I learned about ads, it was over. I was like, oh, so I can make you see this. Oh, you got me up, bro, all right, so now I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna make you look at me that way. I'm gonna make you do that. You feel me so even, and still telling this it ain't gonna to change nothing, bro, motherfuckers, still going, because if you're going to look at it or not, so my whole creative process would be how do I want people to look at me when I do this video.
Speaker 4:That's heavy, how I want motherfuckers to see me how I want motherfuckers to look at me for the next vid, how I want motherfuckers to look at me next year. What sponsorships I want, what I'm saying, that's what I focus on bro with all my videos I'd be like, damn what, what lane am I in? What would I want to be connected to me for me? That's why you don't see no guns in my video.
Speaker 4:You know, I mean, jones, I got you mean, I ain't going bro, I don't put no drones in the vids and none of that, like I ain't. You just gotta know what you targeted, what you know yeah man, yeah yo.
Speaker 2:Um, it was something you just said too, and this, this, this really the most, so we going to keep it real too. I just want to go off of what he just said. That was the worst mistake I ever made as a human being. What was that Was putting guns in my videos, bro.
Speaker 4:That shit follow you forever bro.
Speaker 2:Like that was the worst shit. That was the worst. And I'm saying this because I'm 26 now and I can talk to yeah, I could talk to people and tell them to write from wrongs and all that. That was the worst decision I ever made as an artist. Look at everybody that's doing it bro. Yeah, bro, like. And I just wanted to piggyback off that and say, like I really like when it come to Kira 205, like I told you like Not only is you a rapper that's known, but we from the same hood, so like I was like a little bit more Tapped into a West Philly, you feel me.
Speaker 2:So I just wanted to say this bro, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember you rapping and not having Super marketing and super promotion, like since I heard of you. Bro, bro, I'm telling you bro, Since I heard your name, bro.
Speaker 2:I done seen ads. I done seen Instagram. Am I lying, bro? Am I lying? I done seen ads. I done see instagram promos. I didn't see all that. So we got a large ass percentage out here of artists rappers, singers, right, real artists painting and cooking, whatever. We got a lot of people who got that type of talent and something. But I go to something like how I get this out there, how I get my Instagram this, how I get my YouTube, that Like just with questions, you feel me, what advice would you? What's a piece of advice you would give that person that's trying to put they self out there as whoever they want to be?
Speaker 4:I feel like, bro, any platform in the world, bro, I don't care if it's ruku tv or hulu or something. They all got a way for you to advertise your music dog right all the take advantage of that because it's making it's helping you reach new fans. It's helping you reach new people. Yeah, any platform helping you reach new people, yeah, any platform you put your shit on, just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yup.
Speaker 4:Go ahead and put some promotion behind that joint. Put some money behind yourself, bro. These motherfuckers be shooting these $1,000 vids and all that Like I ain't got. There's nothing against that. But you shoot a $1,000 vid and you're putting $50 into putting yourself out there. That it's crazy, it's backwards and shit to me. I'd rather shoot that shit on my iPhone and put that stack in it, you feel?
Speaker 2:me, I ain't gonna lie. I remember I was watching this Dolph John, right, he was basically saying I'll swing it back to you after this. But Dolph was basically saying, on some shit he was really a self-made millionaire for real, for real, for real, like, for real. And he said, like, bro, like, if you really Like, want to get a song out, Like, say, if you have a song and you want that To really be the one, like, you ain't spending no less than 250, 250 thousand dollars. I know the game 250 thousand bro, I know the game.
Speaker 2:And you got a bunch of artists that go to these studios Every week, record like 20 songs, 30 songs, and don't even be thinking like I could've recorded two songs and saved up the rest of that money and put it in promotion With them one or two songs and fucked up a whole year With just one or two songs. You feel me.
Speaker 4:It come with. That's why knowledge power, bro, that shit, more important than anything, money, all that shit. Because If you even understand these platforms, my nigga, they only showing your shit To like a small percentage Of your followers. So even you reposting this shit Five, six times, it's like. Pointless bro, it's just going to the same people. What the fuck? You should obviously say. How can I reach more people or new people?
Speaker 4:right ding, dong a fucking ass and I ain't calling nobody stupid or nothing, but niggas don't be wanting to learn. I had somebody tell me before like I don't want to learn, I want somebody else to do it for me. I'm like I ain't got no rap for you, you just burnt me out because you know if you don't wanna learn, I want somebody else To do it for me.
Speaker 4:I'm like I ain't got no rap for you, you just burnt me out, because if you don't Wanna learn this shit, what are you doing here? It's pointless for you. You feel me so, bro? I tell motherfuckers the same shit On any interview. I say the same shit. If motherfuckers Don't pay attention to it by now I motherfuckers really want to dig into my story and find out how I got, where I got do you have a team that do all?
Speaker 2:yeah?
Speaker 4:I got my team, but you feel me, you always gotta. You need people around that's smarter than you so I can't always have my team, I gotta have motherfuckers. That's above me and know way more shit than I know.
Speaker 1:That's how you grow.
Speaker 4:It's the only way, bro, I can't be a motherfucker that know everything. I ain't gonna get nowhere. Get nowhere. I'm going to be like it's going to be a lid on where I'm at Speaking on that.
Speaker 1:Like is there anybody? Like I know you got a lot of songs, bro Like is there anybody you want to work with future-wise in the city or maybe even in the industry? You can name either or.
Speaker 4:Bro, I ain't going to lie as far as the city it just. You know, I've been trying Work with a lot of people A bunch of times. It's like Philly got this little Ego thing and I don't let's talk about it. I'm tired of that shit.
Speaker 1:Cause we need to. We need to. I ain't gonna hold you. We need to talk about it, philly, I don't let it. I don't let it bother me.
Speaker 4:Cause within myself. I'm confident.
Speaker 1:What do you mean by that? Like all right, you don't got to say no names or none, we just going to speak on, just doing a feature with a nigga that's popping in Philly. How do that even work? I?
Speaker 4:feel like man, a lot of these niggas. They be having a moment Right and instead of taking that moment and saying I'm going to work with everybody that got a buzz like mine and bigger than me and the little motherfuckers that's a tier below her than me they like mine and bigger than me and the little motherfuckers that's a tier below her than me they try to charge everybody that because they got a moment now when that motherfucker surpass you. They remember you had that moment and tried to shit on them. Now you a dickhead, you feel me, so I'll be like bro, that it ain't.
Speaker 4:It's like when you, when you return in the jaunt to a nigga, they be like, oh, he's ego big, but he's like no, I tried to lock in with you before you had your moment and when you got your moment, you looked at me like I was an asshole. You feel me, but I'm so smart, even if you shit it on me, then, bro, I'm gonna still try to you feel what I'm saying, even when I because I know everybody go up and down. Bro, you go up and down, that's everybody's story. I don't give a fuck what nobody say you're gonna go up, you're gonna come down.
Speaker 1:That's part of life.
Speaker 4:I ain't trying to hear nothing else. You going up, you coming down. You ain't going up and staying there for the rest of your life. Nigga, you gonna come down and see the same thing.
Speaker 2:That's part of life. That's it.
Speaker 4:So I ain't treating nobody funny. So when I try to work with a motherfucker and they don't want to work, I be like all right, bro, you moving? Yeah, come on, let's lock in. It might be a little different, but I'm going to do it. Yeah, you feel me, because I'm going to hit all angles. I'm hitting everywhere.
Speaker 1:You ever think like, do people like maybe like be waiting for you to get to a certain point, to work with certain people, or yeah, sometimes that makes sense because Like it got to make sense sometimes. Yeah, it got to make sense.
Speaker 4:It really got. Ask motherfuckers to pay him. But you feel me If I got a lot of eyes on me and you got a moment right now. Come on bro. Nigga, I just was in the studio With E-Nuts Nigga. We talk Back and forth. This a legend in the city. I don't care what nobody say. Right, yo, we got a lock in. Yeah, bro, just send me the information. We got a song we putting together now.
Speaker 1:You feel me it Once. I see you with a team. I see you working, you dropping videos you got content.
Speaker 4:We from the same Come on bro, you got some eyes on you. My nigga Come on bro, let's lock that up as long as you got some eyes on you as long as you ain't got zero views and you just sitting there trying to dent it's like RK me If I could just do a little bump to employ you bro.
Speaker 1:Come on bro, why, why not?
Speaker 4:man, it's not my obligation but you feel me Everybody that know him Might not even know you.
Speaker 1:You know how the city is, though, bro, everybody that know him.
Speaker 4:Might not know me bro.
Speaker 1:Like on some, if he trying to do a feature.
Speaker 4:They might not know me. So, why not tap in With your fan base?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 4:You think these motherfuckers In the industry Is paying each other? Bro? These niggas is doing A hand in hand joint. I know this shit gonna benefit me. You think Drake telling these artists To pay me, ain't nobody paying?
Speaker 1:that nigga For no feature.
Speaker 4:Sexy Red and all them. He know they going up, so he like oh yeah, let me go ahead and Little Baby Come on. Let's make it make sense, bro, who that nigga work with In the industry. Everybody that's Industry. That's on a hierarchy. Drake work with bro On the come up. Kodak 21 Savage, savage, lil Baby, lil Durk, sexy Red.
Speaker 2:The latest one was four backs. Come on, bro four backs and he signed the nigga. You feel me.
Speaker 4:It's like he know how to stay on.
Speaker 1:He know what's coming. He ain't saying yo pay me About to pop off.
Speaker 4:He ain't saying yo pay me, no, y'all got to pay me, because you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Everybody going to turn around like no, make me pain, like out there. I mean, you gotta learn that. If motherfuckers in philly don't know that they just know um I've realized right um that you um, like I know it was other you know platforms in the past. Like all this streaming stuff is like it ain't new, new but it's kind of new, you feel generation.
Speaker 2:There's a new generation so I don't know about, like that piff or spin reeler or anything, yeah, yeah, no, I'm saying I know about him, but I was pertaining to you. I don't know what you have on there, but I noticed on apple, like you only, uh, got one project hometown, hometown hero in 2020, right, yeah. So I wanted to ask you, right, like you got a lot of singles, like so is it like a certain reason why you only got one project? Cuz some people are single people, some people projects people. I always and my brother tell you, I always analyze people of the projects. That's why I say we be talking like About rappers and I say Travis Scott and they be like Bro, why the fuck? Cause his fucking catalog Is flawless.
Speaker 3:Like, feel what I'm saying. It's literally.
Speaker 2:It's literally A reason. Yeah, like his catalog Flawless.
Speaker 4:The reason I did it was you feel me? The game changed, the whole industry changed. The sound changed the industry changed from a project industry to a single industry. When they was putting projects out and artists come out and they putting out a project, people ain't appreciating the music right they not appreciate every track that's on it, because a lot of people don't know them.
Speaker 4:Now, when they get bigger, they might go back to the project and listen to it but, at the time you wasting so much money putting this project out and putting so much promotion into it when everybody ain't gonna listen to every song, right, the game turned into drop a single. Put something in that single. It won't work, it ain't working. Put another single. I'll put another single. When this single hit, we out of here you feel me so it turned into yo.
Speaker 4:You got to drop this single and get as much attention as you can and my thing be people be asking me to drop a project. But I like when they ask me that, because I like getting that feedback. When there's enough people asking me, I know it's time to drop a project. You feel me it ain't time to drop a project because I ain't get all them eyes on me I need on me and when you off of how many units your projects hold. So if I drop a project and be like, listen, I'm about to drop my album on fucking Apple Music right now today I say that and one of them songs pop off. Then when that label go look at my project and they want to see them analytics, yeah, alright, so this song moving, but this joint ain't moving and this joint. So we got to judge you off of this, we got to judge you Off of what you selling and we gonna offer you this.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:Instead of this one song Going crazy, and you gotta judge me Off of, damn what he gonna do. Nigga they. They signed them Little twin young boys Because they had to go off Of what we was gonna do Exactly Not what we was doing. This song wasn't out, it was on TikTok, so you don't know what the fuck we gonna sell. You gotta go off Of what the Everybody around is doing. Everybody dancing to it Is everywhere. This shit gonna go crazy. Fire, it's gonna go crazy. So we gotta get these motherfuckers the bag. You feel me?
Speaker 4:Instead of having an EP, when you can check my analytics and then see I ain't really Cause. There's a lot of Artists. They had a project coming up and they dropped it and they didn't go how it was supposed to go.
Speaker 1:You the one I learned that from Real shit. Bro, I'm listening to you talk. I'm like where I heard that from. It was you, bro, that shit, and you was telling me, like Yo, I'm taking all my music down and I'm like, why? And you said because they looked at. I guess you like, like you know, when you got this real kid, your go to all these different platforms you know, I'm saying google play, but, bro, if you're not promoting none of those platforms, why is your music on those platforms sometimes?
Speaker 4:sometimes it's good to have all that music because when they go back to your catalog and they check it out, it's all right, cool. But when you got music that's really not making no noise and you had it up there for years and it's not doing that, you ain't gonna do nothing with that shit, or it's not your sound, no more, bro, and you wanna control the narrative or how you judge by the public. Sometimes it be Smart to take that shit off, bro. There's a couple songs I took down. I was like yo, this ain't even the way I'm going, bro, I ain't gonna the number, I'm saying project wise With the number.
Speaker 1:Oh, project wise. Yeah, I thought it was project wise.
Speaker 4:Yeah, cause the label Ain't gonna go look at All your old music. If you Getting signed off a new record, right, if it's a new EP, they gonna go look at that EP, they not gonna look at it.
Speaker 1:Right, right. That's why you like.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the new EP Is gonna be like Alright, yeah, you got a million plays on this, but on this, you know, you got a thousand, like we don't know If all the records.
Speaker 1:Like what you doing, we ain't gonna give you no EP deal.
Speaker 4:We gonna give you a single deal.
Speaker 1:So that's what.
Speaker 3:I heard they gonna judge you Off the highest you're performing. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I learned that shit From 50 Cent dog Like bro. I love you so much, bro, like he got a book.
Speaker 2:And he talk about to say that too. You feel me Shout out Bugatti, he just walked in.
Speaker 1:Shout out Bugatti. Man Shout out Bugatti. Part of the team.
Speaker 2:Bugatti and the motherfucking building Part of the team man, part of Long Live Brand and everything. And this is a good question. Get your man question like why he here? So like like just in talks, like with y'all, and like what would it take because you, you, you, you, independent y'all killing them independent, like y'all doing what y'all gotta do, what would it take for, like a label to walk up to y'all and just be like this will be giving it for us to do this with y'all and like for you to be like, yeah, let's, let's rock with this label, like what, what, what, what got to me.
Speaker 4:Probably over like seven labels like we've been in contact with like trying to do shit bro.
Speaker 4:But it just be like when you ain't got a lot of leverage, because you might. It might look like it to you that we got a whole lot of leverage, but you got to think about every other artist that got something going on, every other artist these A&Rs is going to. You got to look at it like damn, if they're not going to give me what I need, and as far as what we need, it's not even about the bread. More so, bro, it's about the backing. Once we do what we're going to do, how y'all going to piggyback off of that? Because it's plenty of times my last song that Heartbreak Kid Join for the Bitches, that was through Empire, bro.
Speaker 5:That wasn't through me.
Speaker 4:Nobody know about that that was through Empire. So that's why I'm saying like if y'all not going to back it. The right way I got to be like ah, I ain't trying to lock in all the way, because I don't want Because I could have.
Speaker 2:Did that Empire stay picking people up? Yeah, like it's like, bro, you got like there's a lot of people it's about what y'all Can offer, bro, but you don't want to Sign a deal when you gonna look Like you did it yeah.
Speaker 4:Besides the money. Besides the money, if you could Add to my situation On some shit like, yeah, alright, I'm gonna get this joint. I got this joint on BET, I got this joint Running a rotation On the radio, I need you to make sure I'm at this award show and I'm doing it. As long as they can piggyback off of that. That's all we need you, feel me.
Speaker 2:The money going to be a plus Open up them doors. Is it any amount of money that make you give away your masters Like any amount?
Speaker 4:Like every song, I record it.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:Right now. I'm going to be totally honest. This is really the most podcast.
Speaker 2:Really the most man Like subscribe all that. Right now Any amount of money, like honey. I own that though.
Speaker 4:If it was, yeah, I own that, I'm giving you this here right now and every song after that I own, yeah, right now. Yeah, I would do that bro, because right now I'm not making that off of that music. Off of that music right now, that's not generating, probably. Like I say, like If you used to come to me Like yo, I got 10 million For you for your, for your back catalog, bro, that's what when you sign to a label, that's what's in the negotiations. Your back catalog Is in the negotiations. That gotta be a part of it. Like they not gonna sign you Without that. Like they gonna be like bro, alright, look, they gonna be like Bro alright, look, cause they need to make their money back. Dog, if they giving you money, if they signing you For four million dollars, let's say they gonna say, alright, how many songs you got out? Alright, we gonna go to you.
Speaker 4:Bro, I'm telling you, they gonna be like what's your back catalog making? Alright, we gonna keep this song for this many years. We gonna license it For this many years. You feel what I'm saying? That ain't no, that's not Irregular, like that's normal. I don't. I wouldn't say, like Yo, I'll give it away forever. But I would give A license and an agreement. Like yo, y'all can keep this shit For ten years. Go ahead, give me the bag when I come back and I own my shit in ten years, when I'm done with music and all that. That's cool. I'll be generating money Off of that for that and my buzz would be up. You feel what I'm saying? But right now, yeah, I'm a licensed deal. That's like fucking renting your house out to somebody. You feel what I'm saying? You renting it right now, you making your money, how you making your money?
Speaker 2:but when it's time for you to sell, yeah, all right, and I asked you that too right, and you go back, go back to you after this. But I asked you that because, like future, like last year, he, I think he think he sold more than half of his catalog For a hundred For a hundred, something like that. And then I'm like all right that's cool.
Speaker 2:Then I'm like, all right, that's cool, he a rapper and you know Future going to make more. But then, coach K and P, they signed Quality Control For like 300 million. Now people was judging them for that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they still have something to do with it. They still staff there though. Yeah, they still have something to do with it, like they still staff there.
Speaker 2:They still, they get a percentage. Do you look at that as like Damn, I wouldn't have did that. Or it's like no, that's not my job. That ain't my job, that ain't your.
Speaker 4:I ain't with nobody Coming and taking Creative control of my shit Because it stand for something, bro. I'm not saying that's that don't have nothing To do with me. What they did, they got their own reasons.
Speaker 5:They did yeah, yeah, yeah, but the way this shit Is set up, bro.
Speaker 4:We stand for something, so I don't know If somebody gonna come in here. Give me a bag, take this shit over and just make it look Fugazi. Like I really gotta have. Now we can. It's about negotiation, bro, like.
Speaker 1:Can I say something, man it's about negotiation, bro.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like what can we talk about? Yeah, it gotta be a negotiation.
Speaker 4:Where are you going to Do with the label Like you gotta put this in writing. Bro, is you gonna keep the same Status quo, like is you? Is this shit gonna represent?
Speaker 2:The same thing. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Cause they could come in here and say no, we about to drop everybody, we get all gay artists and putting it on. I'm like oh shit you feel me and they just gave me y'all this, but this is my brand, like this is what I you feel, what I'm saying like I'm signing uh, endorsement deals off of the brand and all that.
Speaker 1:Y'all promoting all this gay shit and I'm still signing yeah, you feel me so it's like it don't really make sense, so it gotta be a negotiation bro this.
Speaker 4:This might not make sense, but that's how I'll be looking at shit.
Speaker 1:Right, I think people build up companies To sell, though.
Speaker 4:Yeah, to sell them. Yeah, a lot of people do you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying A lot of people do.
Speaker 4:A lot of people do A lot of people do you know what I mean, so you what I would do. I wouldn't sell it completely, bro, I would still have.
Speaker 1:Some type of ownership.
Speaker 4:Exactly what they're doing, I would.
Speaker 1:So you really agree with how they moved. Depending on how much that check was, they made the right move Bro guess how much fucking Amazon.
Speaker 5:That's all I was trying to be Jeff Bezos owned like 10% of Amazon bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, amazon YouTube.
Speaker 4:Tesla, SoundCloud, Google, like everything. Like niggas sell they shit. You want to buy a small ass percentage of Tesla, bro.
Speaker 2:Niggas want to, all right.
Speaker 4:I work so hard.
Speaker 2:Niggas want to Mark Zuckerberg. It Like sell this to that. You know what a nigga told me, bro? A nigga told me he said I'd rather have.
Speaker 4:He said I'd rather have 100%. He said I'd rather have 10% of a watermelon than 100% of a grape bro. Yeah, man, if your bro yeah man, if your shit this small and you ain't making that much money off of it, why wouldn't you sell or help some? Have somebody else come take ownership damn repeat that. Real quick, bro, I'd rather have 10 of a watermelon than 100 that was crazy that's like I was crazy and make the most sense bro if somebody could come in and invest in my shit and give me a bag, and I still keep some ownership.
Speaker 4:Why not? That was crazy because they're not gonna be able To make all these crazy moves Without me, cause I'm on a board and I got ownership Of this company. And y'all need my Email approval. So, it's like man, you just gotta. It's about negotiation, bro. Anything can be negotiated, anything. Any deal, bro, any deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah man, ayo man, we got care in the building. Man, I ain't gonna lie. Hey, yo like I'm gonna keep it real. Like who, who? Um was, like you, influenced by like like who, who like we. We heard the story about how you start rapping, right, yeah, but when you got to the point and you like understood like you was going to be a rapper, that's what it was like when carol was growing up like seven, eight years old, elementary, middle school like who was?
Speaker 1:your favorite rappers. Are you cool with this? One, when I wasn't no, I'm good, ain't no papers right now. No, no, yeah, I am.
Speaker 4:But uh when I was that young I was like I don't even remember, bro. I don't know what the fuck I was doing when I got older. Ti was like my first.
Speaker 2:Niggas be sleeping on tip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ti was my favorite, niggas be sleeping on tip bro and after that.
Speaker 4:It was like that's when the hove and the niggas like that Came Wayne, beans, beans, I don't care, nobody say.
Speaker 2:Now let me ask you a question, bro. I'm biased.
Speaker 1:if I say beans, I don't even speak. Motherfuckers listen bro?
Speaker 2:Remember when Versus was popping heavy? What Versus, bro? I was arguing with so many niggas and this is a side joint, you feel me. I was arguing with so many niggas that I think TI would win a Versus against 50, bro TI had some hits bro 20 songs tip against 50.
Speaker 4:You got to make it make sense. Ti, though, 50 had a legendary album TI Hits.
Speaker 2:bro, Y'all want me to really start TI.
Speaker 1:That's a good versus bro. That's a good versus bro. He a wash 50, bro. Nah, I don't know if he a wash for your Washington Bro, I'm Nah you going crazy now, bro, I ain't trying to turn up All right now.
Speaker 2:Listen, I ain't trying to turn up because I want to, Bro.
Speaker 1:TI bro Bro, you going crazy though.
Speaker 4:Listen, listen.
Speaker 1:I understand where he coming from, though, bro 50 cents bro, 50 as far as A whole album of hits.
Speaker 4:Nah 50 had a Tip had legendary albums.
Speaker 2:He had multiple. Listen right, you got, get Rich or Die Trying, right, yeah, multiple bro.
Speaker 1:Nah they not hitting like them Jones right there?
Speaker 4:bro. No, I'm listening. Listen bro, listen bro.
Speaker 2:You got Get Rich or Die Trying right. You got some songs off the Massacre right Some. It's not all of them, it's some.
Speaker 1:No, you're right what. Some? It's not all of them, it's some. No, you right what he not putting.
Speaker 3:A lot of them In the fucking.
Speaker 2:He fuck around and go to the mixtapes from G-Unit Before that, bro.
Speaker 4:It's some songs on there. He was mixtape crazy and I get money From Curtis. Ti had TI bro Commercial hits.
Speaker 2:He had Commercial hits On every album, from his first album, every album.
Speaker 4:All the way to his Fucking last album. That's why I said 50 had a legendary album.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, I had multiple. I think the massacre Was legendary too, but you not putting More than five of them songs In your verses.
Speaker 4:Nothing was ever Top of your picture. Don't try it Ever.
Speaker 2:Or we could put the Fucking list right here when we drop bro. But I just had to say that because you said like niggas was like what Bro? Yeah, like, if all right, if 50 do some shit like because first, because they be saying like anything you was on or you written, then he really lost, because he, because TI got the Justin Timberlake and the fucking you forget what Blurred lines, bro, niggas be tripping. I just had to X that Because niggas was snapping on me. Get with your dog train, bro it's tip though bro.
Speaker 2:What you know about that 24's rubber band man, you go all the way.
Speaker 5:You gotta listen to this. His style change. It's crazy, bro, what you know about that Big things popping all the way.
Speaker 1:His style changed, bro, go after wins. His style changed. It's crazy, bro. You got more tips bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what you know, about that Big things popping, yeah All that you got chips right now.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, you going crazy, you going crazy man we know, we know oh my God, what's he doing?
Speaker 4:No money got swagger like us Shooty.
Speaker 5:Swagger like us it's done.
Speaker 3:It's done. Yo, it's done.
Speaker 2:It's done. I swear to God bro.
Speaker 5:Yo, you're right, I'm done, it's done, it's done, it's done, it's done Bro.
Speaker 4:he really king of the south bro, he really king of the south. What the fuck, bro, I ain't even remember, swag it's done.
Speaker 1:Actually, fuck it's done, actually, fuck it's done. Bro, he'll take out a lot of them, that's right.
Speaker 2:Bro, Tip a fucking comedian now, so niggas be forgetting he, don't be popping his rap. Shit no more. Bro. Tip got fucking more hits than 85% of the fucking rap game, bro. He was one of the most successful rappers, bro. Come on, bro, song was like the shit and they were saying that was like the first song. I think it was like Reservoir Dogs with a whole yeah, we, he had Kid Sheik, yeah. But they was saying Swag Like Us was the first song where, like Everybody on there was God tier.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm, top tier niggas, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:What's something you'll tell your younger self man no no, no, like a life lesson you'll probably tell your younger self To prepare yourself for To get you through something prior a little bit quicker or easier, and I probably like this.
Speaker 4:You know, motherfuckers, that you would, bro, know you know who you're locking with. I was at a lot of time when niggas that wasn't really with me, so, mm-hmm, know who you would. I say that all the time, bro, if I don't recognize who I was around long time to go out of it. Right, you gotta go through shit to learn, so yo man ha or yo, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2:One more thing, right, I remember growing up about. I remember growing up right and like Germantown was like no, this some real shit, because I got to say shit like that. I remember Germantown was like not cool to be from, like in the earlier stages, like you had Meek mixed tape, nigga. Wait, germantown had nigga. I don't know if y'all remember this, but Meek had a tape when like a skit Was him being off us Like. That shit ain't there. So I'm asking you right.
Speaker 3:From us being from.
Speaker 2:Germantown Like when did? When do you think that changed? Like Cause we the shit now. So when?
Speaker 1:you think that changed? That shit was never like this bull Crazy. Real shit. I was always. That shit was never like this bull crazy.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's real shit. I was always like that shit, the shit.
Speaker 4:I never thought like we was under nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah me too.
Speaker 4:I don't think it never changed I think people just really recognize like all right, no, yeah, niggas the shit, Niggas ain't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they ain't slouches.
Speaker 3:They ain't yeah.
Speaker 4:I never thought I ain't gonna hold on Real right. I just asked that I'm not gonna say I'm super arrogant, bro, but I ain't. I don't be thinking Niggas fucking with me, I be like what who? You heard Real shit, I don't care where you from, bro, I don't care that shit, don't bother me so care.
Speaker 1:We was in here talking. We said who the flyest part of the city? Like what's the flyest part? When was it not us?
Speaker 2:though.
Speaker 4:Like when was it not us? It always was us.
Speaker 2:Like we're literally known for that. It always was us, always Like these niggas keep saying South Philly when when, when bro. But it's cool, it's cool.
Speaker 4:We're going to get away from that.
Speaker 3:We're going to get away from that. We're going to get away from that. We're going to get away from that. We gonna get away from that. We gonna get away from that we gonna get away from that.
Speaker 2:I did wanna ask you one thing, though, bro. I wanted to ask you this, and this is one of the Most important questions that I wanted to ask but.
Speaker 2:I just, I just like it slipped my mind. And then we was Like I wanted to you like Explain to people like your relationship with pnb rock. Like you feel me like where he rest in peace. Pnb rock man, like what was your relationship with him and us, being from germantown, like how much did it meant, because I tell people like he was the first person from germantown who made it like to what he did. Like you can't name nobody else, yeah, who you mean. So like I wanted you to explain that oh, that was some hot dog, bro.
Speaker 4:We grew up together so it was like we seen each other. When we was down, we was up, we trapped out the same trap, crib like. So it's like that shit different with me and bro, even with the other couple niggas that's from around there, that shit different with us, because it's like we really like PNB and Hainstreet is like right here.
Speaker 2:Right, there we was always together.
Speaker 4:You feel me. So when he finally made it out, type shit, we had a little like disagreement or whatever.
Speaker 2:I remember that too.
Speaker 4:It kind of swayed us away from each other but we locked back in and that shit was like we never left each other type shit Fine man, but when he died, that shit was like.
Speaker 4:I felt like it was meant for us to come back at that time. You feel me? Because I was out of LA one day and I wasn't even going to hit him up, but I had his number so I hit him. I'm like man, I'm all LA man. If you want to lock in and talk, we can talk about shit, because shit was like the clash wasn't just an argument, it was like some real street shit and if you know, you know, you feel me.
Speaker 4:No, I really remember what you're talking about too. I really remember that he was like all right, I get there and he wasn't there. Me and bro went and I was like damn, bro, this nigga got me waiting on him. I feel like he just on some shit, like he don't give a fuck, he don't want to talk. He was like yo, my father, I fell asleep, I'm on my way, he come there and shit, and we just talked about everything. We put everything on the table, bro. We just talked about everything that happened and he was just like man, that shit, never, we ain't gonna never let that shit Break us up. Type shit you feel me.
Speaker 4:And it was like we never left each other. But he came back to the city and we locked in and when he died I was like Damn, I felt like that was God, like just Staring his back to the. Yeah, you feel me. So I'm happy we patched everything up that.
Speaker 2:So shout out the pnb though that's crazy how that sound, because that sound just like, uh remember, like straight out of continent when cuban eat. They was talking in the club, they was about to make up get back together and then easy eat rest in peace though man I tell everybody, bro, like I did that I never he did that, ever seen germantown like that. That was awesome. We had a shorty from everywhere wanted to come here.
Speaker 5:They wanted to come up that way we had all the, all the one, everybody.
Speaker 2:It was just crazy bro, it was just crazy, it was just crazy man. But yeah, rest in peace, rock man.
Speaker 1:Something you want to leave our listeners with man. Something you got coming out, what you got coming out in the second half of the year.
Speaker 4:Man, it's a real shit, bro. I had shots in me and all that shit, but I don't know what you're good for. I'm like't need no more, mr Nice guy. Bro, I'm coming and I'm Bro, I've been working For so long.
Speaker 2:Talk about it, nigga.
Speaker 4:I've been humble to niggas For so long, bro, I feel like I give motherfuckers the benefit of the doubt. Be like man. I ain't even me and my gang if you ain't focused on me and my gang.
Speaker 5:I ain't fucking with you. I'm willing to lock in with anybody.
Speaker 4:I'm willing to lock in with anybody in the city. I'll fuck with niggas, you feel me. But if niggas ain't on the type time like niggas in my way, they getting ran over.
Speaker 2:I ain't got no rent for nobody, bro.
Speaker 4:I don't care how. Nobody take that shit Bro. I'm just. I'm tired of the ego, shit man.
Speaker 2:The city fucked up. Yeah, bro.
Speaker 4:The city fucked up, bro. I feel like the only niggas that get to that point, across that threshold, is the niggas that be like man, fuck this shit man you feel me Like, bro, I'm on that, I'm on that. So man just watch out, man Roll with it. So get ready to fuck over.
Speaker 2:Shout out, shout out, shout out. White boy, yo, that's right.
Speaker 1:White boy, not here. White boy, shout out, white boy.
Speaker 2:You say it called fast track. So you not here, so I'ma do it with you. I'ma just say two people and you just, who better, who you would rather prefer? All right, All right, so I so I'm going to start off Jay-Z or DMX.
Speaker 4:Jay-Z.
Speaker 2:Jay-Z. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4:What are we talking about? Lyrics? Whatever, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Whatever you want me to get, it don't even matter Kanye or Pharrell, kanye, kanye, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4:And I explain why. I say everybody. I don't explain. No, just say the names first. Fuck.
Speaker 2:Alright, I'm gonna bring it. I'm gonna bring it to the Vaca or Quilly. Fuck him up, you know I'm gonna Fuck. You know I'm gonna Fuck him up real quick. Fuck he talk about.
Speaker 3:He wanna be, on fast.
Speaker 1:He gonna be on. Alright, let's get it Vodka or Quilly. What you doing? We slowing up. Fast track I'ma go, quilly I'ma go.
Speaker 4:Quilly. Y'all gonna fight. I'ma go Quilly, i'ma go Quilly.
Speaker 2:Bro, i'ma keep it a, b, i'ma go Quilly, bro, I'll explain. Wow, I'll explain. We gon' keep it rock. I didn't say it, see I wasn't saying. The lyric was Alright, that was crazy. Yeah, I wasn't saying the lyric was.
Speaker 4:I wasn't saying.
Speaker 2:The lyric was you niggas is rated. That's why I had PG, bro. That's why I had to think about it For so long. That was crazy, bro.
Speaker 4:Bro, I'll tell you how I said it.
Speaker 2:Just keep going, all right, all right, all right, boom, all right, all right, boom, go. Producer.
Speaker 1:Go producer Go producer Go producer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, all right, all right, all right, I'm going to give you.
Speaker 4:Now I feel like you're trying to trick me. All right.
Speaker 2:All right Weezy.
Speaker 4:Metro.
Speaker 2:Metro, metro. All right, bad, bad, bad. Now my fuck you up again. All right, a lot, the fucking well, hold on. All right, boom, it's gonna fuck me up. I need to go live. Cheek Raw.
Speaker 3:Oh, my god, I wanna man fake Cheek Raw or.
Speaker 2:OT the real.
Speaker 3:I wanna do it.
Speaker 4:Cheek Raw.
Speaker 2:Cheek Raw? Oh, it ain't even no.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, cheek Raw, alright bet.
Speaker 1:Alright, bet Alright bet, because you said Somebody that's up there.
Speaker 2:No, I can't bro that's a legendary.
Speaker 4:You was gonna stay up there OT hot but Cheek Raw Put the. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I was going to stay up there? Alright, alright, boom. You would have had to say Cheek, roll on somebody else right there, bro.
Speaker 1:No, I was about to say that I was really about to go there.
Speaker 2:That would have been crazy. I was really about to go there. Alright, boom, alright, damn. Who the fuck was I just thinking in my head? Who the fuck was I just thinking in my head To go against an h?
Speaker 4:ah, you lucky I'm guarantee you my strong gonna be h bro you guarantee it watch good all right, hold on, let me get it.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, no, no, no, no, oh, all right I can't, you can't do that.
Speaker 4:Why I can't? Do that because I'm, it's true, that's what I'm saying. Look, look, okay, and they sure are eating us.
Speaker 3:I'm back doing other shit, look, look.
Speaker 2:NH or NH or.
Speaker 1:NH or Enus.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 4:H bro, h bro, h Enus, bro Bro. I'm telling you, bro Enus, I'm not explaining it, bro, this one I'm not explaining bro, what Ness?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry bro, I'll fuck with you.
Speaker 1:The most bro. Huh, shout out to En-Ness man.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's who I was about to say NH or Ed, that's what.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say oh, that would've been crazy. H though, h, h, yeah, I like.
Speaker 2:H too, ha ha. But one more, one more producer, one, one more producer, one Alright Boom. So we did Metro and Weezy Free, ed Go. So we did Metro and Weezy Go Philly, philly, philly.
Speaker 1:Producers.
Speaker 2:Alright. And then Whoa, y'all gonna make the joint.
Speaker 1:Hold on, wait they finna make the joint I finally had to Philly producers. Take the joint into every studio, and then Philly engineers Alright.
Speaker 4:Fuck it. I don't care how y'all niggas feel. Come on, let's go.
Speaker 2:Brizzy on the beat or Swaggiano.
Speaker 4:Damn, he's my dog, y'all niggas. They are dogs too.
Speaker 2:Shout out, brizzy.
Speaker 4:They are dogs too.
Speaker 2:Shout out Swag, shout out Brizzy man, brizzy or Swaggiano, I already know who I pick. You got Swag, bro.
Speaker 4:That's crazy. Yeah, i'ma have to go.
Speaker 3:Swag yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah bro, yeah yeah bro. Oh shit, shout out, swag. Yeah, I'm going to have to go swagging. Yeah, yeah bro. Yeah, yeah bro. Oh shit Shout out.
Speaker 2:Swag.
Speaker 1:Can we talk about it?
Speaker 2:All right, Philly Engineers.
Speaker 3:Go ahead, philly, engineers bro, pi or Dunny.
Speaker 2:PI All right, I heard PI put some shit together.
Speaker 1:Okay, put some shit together bro. Okay, some shit together bro.
Speaker 4:Okay, shout out Dunny too.
Speaker 2:Shout out Dunny. He my one though, dunny. Shout out Dunny.
Speaker 4:Dunny was one of them. He had K1. He was definitely one of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dang, yeah. That's crazy though.
Speaker 5:This interview going.
Speaker 4:We got more, we got more this interview ain't for Nobody with a soft heart, cause they gonna.
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