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ALI BOMYE!!! | FT. AMIR ALI @_THIS1FORGORDY | RTM PODCAST | EP. 20
What if the Philadelphia music scene could produce another legend in the making? Join us as we sit down with Amir Ali, a rising star whose lyrical prowess and community dedication have drawn comparisons to Jay Z. From humble beginnings in West Philadelphia to electrifying performances that leave audiences in awe, Amir’s journey is a testament to talent, perseverance, and staying true to one's roots.
We reminisce about our shared upbringing, recounting the cultural influences and family values that shaped Amir's early years. This episode takes you through significant milestones, like the opening of Harambe Charter School, and the powerful impact of African, Swahili, and Muslim traditions in Amir's formative years. With musical inspirations ranging from Teddy Pendergrass to Jill Scott, Amir's passion for performance was evident from a young age, fueling his early ventures into rap and setting the stage for his eventual ascent in the Philadelphia hip-hop scene.
From candid discussions about mental health to heartfelt stories of community support, this episode offers a comprehensive look at Amir Ali's journey. We explore the camaraderie among Philadelphia artists, the subjectivity of musical tastes, and the importance of a robust catalog in rap. With insights into Amir's rise without gimmicks and reflections on personal growth and future aspirations, this is a conversation filled with inspiration, resilience, and a deep love for music. Tune in for an unforgettable dialogue that highlights Amir's exceptional talent and unwavering commitment to his craft and community.
What if the Philadelphia music scene could produce another legend in the making? Join us as we sit down with Amir Ali, a rising star whose lyrical prowess and community dedication have drawn comparisons to Jay Z. From humble beginnings in West Philadelphia to electrifying performances that leave audiences in awe, Amir’s journey is a testament to talent, perseverance, and staying true to one's roots.
We reminisce about our shared upbringing, recounting the cultural influences and family values that shaped Amir's early years. This episode takes you through significant milestones, like the opening of Harambe Charter School, and the powerful impact of African, Swahili, and Muslim traditions in Amir's formative years. With musical inspirations ranging from Teddy Pendergrass to Jill Scott, Amir's passion for performance was evident from a young age, fueling his early ventures into rap and setting the stage for his eventual ascent in the Philadelphia hip-hop scene.
From candid discussions about mental health to heartfelt stories of community support, this episode offers a comprehensive look at Amir Ali's journey. We explore the camaraderie among Philadelphia artists, the subjectivity of musical tastes, and the importance of a robust catalog in rap. With insights into Amir's rise without gimmicks and reflections on personal growth and future aspirations, this is a conversation filled with inspiration, resilience, and a deep love for music. Tune in for an unforgettable dialogue that highlights Amir's exceptional talent and unwavering commitment to his craft and community.
I'm Rilla, I'm Cash, I'm WhiteboyD2E. Welcome to the Rilla. The Most Podcast, yes, sir.
Speaker 3:What's up?
Speaker 2:my boys. Today we got a special guest in the building man Super special guest bro. Give him the rundown.
Speaker 4:This one you.
Speaker 2:Whiteboy. Okay, okay okay, I like that I like that that okay.
Speaker 1:So this brother right here is like my family for one. We come from the same tribe of harambe, so so like, so, like his honor is like super intact off of that alone, like how we grew up is just different in that tribe. Am I right or wrong? Come?
Speaker 2:on.
Speaker 1:You talking.
Speaker 2:Go ahead.
Speaker 1:All right, you ready. So, like ever since I ran into him and his music shit, he been crushing shit. Differently, though, because in Philadelphia Philadelphia we come from like the home of the spitters right and like we always come across somebody that could rap very, very well in our city. Yeah, this time it's a little different, it's a little it's like one, just a little bit different it's a little.
Speaker 1:It's like one of them genres, like you know, like you only see every 10, every 10 years, every 15 years, shit like that. Like when you like, when you like, hear the shit that he put down, bro. That shit just like a little different Right. You would say right, okay, so like. You would say right, Okay, so like. And that right. I mean like I ain't never seen nobody Fuck the game up with what. Six songs and two freestyles, am I right?
Speaker 1:Whoa I ain't even gonna lie Like I never saw that. I gotta put the L down. Y'all know I don't even do that. Yo, I never saw that.
Speaker 3:I gotta put the L down, y'all know I don't even do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yo, I never saw nobody come out With six songs and two freestyles and fuck the world up. I never saw that. And I'm talking about like I'm talking about in hip hop history, like we doing little shit different today, what you had to add on to that I can't add in front. What I can't add on to that, what I had to add on to that Listen.
Speaker 3:Man Like Westside Maniac man Like when they come to the, when they come to the westside man Ain't nobody above this dude.
Speaker 1:Nobody Bro, I ain't gonna hold you bro. Ain't nobody above this dude, nobody Bro.
Speaker 3:I ain't gonna hold you, bro. Like Fuck all that Philly shit. One of the best flows ever period.
Speaker 1:Facts.
Speaker 3:And I ain't even just saying that, just cause you in front of our face. I don't spice niggas, best flows I ever heard it's rather than most. I ain't gonna hold you like the way bro put words and sentences and Metaphors and similes.
Speaker 1:Together is on some.
Speaker 3:Jay.
Speaker 1:Z shit bro it ain't really never been done Like it's on some Jay Z. You feel what I'm saying. It's the wordplay triple entendres.
Speaker 3:Double entendres like but man On the other note, bro Besides rap man Down to earth. I'm just like, but man Crazy. On the other note, bro, besides rap man Down to earth, humble.
Speaker 1:Very, very great guy.
Speaker 3:Great guy, great Pure soul. Yes, yes. Very, very, very pure soul. Very honest, real honest, yes. You know, I just got, I just got to put the run down.
Speaker 1:But, ladies and gentlemen, you niggas be lying bro.
Speaker 3:Ladies and gentlemen, we got Amir Ali in the building.
Speaker 1:We got my fucking boy in the building.
Speaker 2:We got Amir Ali 18 claps for my fucking boy. Round of applause.
Speaker 1:Let that shit go for two minutes.
Speaker 3:My fucking boy here. Round of applause.
Speaker 4:We getting real claps for this boy. I appreciate it. We got a live audience today.
Speaker 1:No, cause the reason, though, bro, he been putting on a clinic In the last six months to a year. He been putting on a fucking clinic Break it down. He deserve that shit, bro. Break it down, and I mean that wholeheartedly, like on some real shit what you been doing out here, bro, and I'm watching, you know, I'm watching you know I'm watching you, you know I'm watching. You know I'm watching you, Bro, you real pause you handling everything.
Speaker 1:Well, you keep your brothers with you. You know I mean, bro. You know I'm saying you keep J Siaf on the board, bro. It's just been this. It's like yo.
Speaker 5:I had it, so it's like.
Speaker 1:So not only are you elevating, but you're elevating your people.
Speaker 4:And that's important. Yeah, and that's what it's about.
Speaker 1:That was my intention.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. But before we go all deep into shit, yeah, no, we gonna run into that.
Speaker 4:My fault, my fault, my fault, yeah, hey, bro, you know how we get, yeah, I always.
Speaker 3:I always ask people Cause, you know, like I said, I apologize y'all.
Speaker 1:No, you good, you good, I'm a little excited.
Speaker 2:You know, white boy, I'm a little excited. This is really the most we kinda used to all this.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry y'all, I'm sorry yeah this is really the most, this is really the most Almost took off. Yeah. At really the most before we worry about the entertainment and the music and all that such thing, we care about what people really going through in life and how they mental health is. So, starting with white boy man, how you feeling we gonna do our marley.
Speaker 1:Last night we put on we. We had a great, great interview, we coming off the weekend Feeling great. A lot of events. We got Amir Ali in the building right now. I'm telling you like I'm living at a high right now. Y'all. Yeah, it's like surreal where I'm at in this shit. Yeah, and I'm feeling it, y'all Really feeling it. So I feel great, feel great, feel great, feel great. How about you, cole.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm chilling. I just left Target. You know, shopping at Target is like I don't know.
Speaker 3:Make you feel a little bit relaxed, I ain't going out.
Speaker 1:Look, I'm going to put you on something at Target. Put me on Target.
Speaker 4:Next time you go to Target right.
Speaker 1:Next time you go to Target, get you a pack of them. Goodfella tees you might not Never wear a Polo tee, Roc Nation tee again, or a pair of thieves no.
Speaker 2:I fuck with Roc Nation. I'm signing a Roc Nation right now.
Speaker 1:I ain't going to lie.
Speaker 3:I fuck with you, you feeling good Shout out Justin Murray.
Speaker 5:Yo, I ain't gonna lie man.
Speaker 1:Shout out.
Speaker 3:Justin man, listen, yo Listen. When we get the win, we don't grin, we don't call the blues. When we lose, you already Feel me Shout out to Sombomb man.
Speaker 2:That's who we living by right now. That's who we living by man.
Speaker 3:I'm fucking great bro. And there's a person in the building who made my my week great man. Shout out to Fresh man. He do that that.
Speaker 2:Give a shout out to Fresh, shout out to Fresh man.
Speaker 4:Fresh the legend man Fresh the legend for real.
Speaker 2:He gave.
Speaker 3:He gave people you know Opportunities to To showcase their talent.
Speaker 4:Talk about it.
Speaker 3:He do something on Baltimore Ave and shit. Shit was legendary, you feel me. We had Bob in the building, man, if I ain't going to name names, but we had everybody in the building. Then, right after that, shout out to Wink and Shee through the event and all that, and it just went hand in hand, man. On top of that, we had Nasty, and then we got the fucking goat in here. Man, I'm Mary Lee man how you feeling I'm how you feeling.
Speaker 4:I'm good bro, I'm working man, I'm focused, yeah, I'm on some shit so look man, we excited.
Speaker 3:So look, man, we excited for this interview. But before we get deep into it, man, you already know, man Shout out to the school of gifted too, man Shout out to Crown. Gold Shout out to everybody. Man Taste Creators.
Speaker 5:Everybody man.
Speaker 3:Everybody that meet this man over here, this legendary rap artist, man first. Whoever is a part of that. We commend you and we love you Facts and it's going to be shown. Man, I'm Mary Ali man.
Speaker 1:Please don't feed the wolves, let's get it man.
Speaker 4:Let's get it.
Speaker 3:Music video out right now.
Speaker 4:Go check them out? I don't know how bad it could get for him. He know he not, he know he not, he know he not. That's my man Damn. I'm talking to him my mind's straight. He dark about it.
Speaker 3:Shout out OG Meat, he gonna be mad as shit. He miss him.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 4:Shout out OG Meat man. Yeah, the niggas love me. I'm a dude, I can't believe it. I take that knife from my back and I don't need it. You know what happened with a woman. You know you can't just say it in a rap, you gotta mean it the niggas love me, I don't need it. This not on your playlist you ain't from Philly man.
Speaker 1:Philly no.
Speaker 4:You been in a fucking brain, so fucking weird.
Speaker 1:You ain't inherited this and got this shit rolling.
Speaker 2:You ain't from Philly. If you don't know, I'm here. I leave man that love.
Speaker 4:That look A little different. When you was back there and all that. I tell you that my bitch Is the baddest. No, I ain't talking about Trina. I mean I shit, but it's gonna find me the classic demeanor Niggas be regular rappers. I'm a predator, I'm a predator, I'm a. Let it play, bro, you got it.
Speaker 1:Let it play. You gotta mean it them love me.
Speaker 4:I can't believe it, I take that night from my mom to the roof. Yeah, start, that's all right, I'm, mayor ali, where you from? I'm from west philly, okay, okay, yeah, exactly yeah, we're at west philly. I'm from all over west, bro, okay you know man, I lived in winfield I lived on 54 from walnut years. That's really rare, I mean around, there around 60th street. That's where my folks is really from. You know what I'm saying. Then I moved up over Brooke. You know what I?
Speaker 4:mean 66 and lands down, you know what I'm saying, yeah.
Speaker 1:What's up for real, I got a family crib.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying you really mean that shit.
Speaker 3:And I know that you don't say a block too. I hear you say the six, but other than that, that's, that's where, like I mean you know, yeah, that's where all my niggas is from and like 46, 56, what no, that's
Speaker 4:66 oh yeah, okay okay okay, everybody from the six man, just that whole, that whole area, that neighborhood, that's what like really shaped me, like you know, 66 and lands 66 and lands down like growing up there, like you know what I'm saying, that's what like really shaped me, like you know.
Speaker 3:66 and land 66 and lands down like growing up there, like you know what I'm saying. That's like from a different block than that's crazy, yeah no doubt you know, I'm, I'm bro, I'm from philly, bro, I'm from west.
Speaker 4:Like you know what I'm saying, you know I I shout out the six a lot, like I say long little six. I shout out the six a lot because that's where, like I, did a lot of like my younger stupid shit you know what I mean like and I locked in with my niggas right there and, yeah, we was there every day.
Speaker 4:That's where I was at, like okay, all the other shit is just like where I grew up, at my family, like right, you know, I'm saying like yeah houses I stayed at, lived at. Like you understand, i'm'm saying Like you know, okay.
Speaker 1:So you know, growing up in the west side area Of Philadelphia, you know we gonna just say all over, there's really nowhere to be exact, but you know 66th and Lansdowne Is like where you really got your stripes and shit, met all your friends and things like that, yeah. So, um, give me like some of the influences that you had growing up, and it don't got to be like no music people, because I know you got strong individuals in your family.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's a lot, bro. You know what I mean. I think I mean shout out my mom, my pop, definitely.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And still like great shit in me. Like you know what mean, like in a great mindset, you know I mean, and like a warrior type of mindset, I don't know that's like, that's been here since I was a kid, like you know what I mean, like so that shout out to them because they, you know I mean I get a lot of my shit from both of them. You know I'm saying and, um, but you know just multiple people, bro. Like you know, I'm saying um, I don't know, I don't, I don't want to single nobody else specifically, but like you know, you know I mean I've had multiple influences in my life that show me what being great is like.
Speaker 4:You know, I mean like my grandfather being one of them right, right, that's what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1:That's what I wanted to talk about. I wanted to spend like a couple minutes on that because yeah your grandfather did something great for me right exactly I'm saying at a time that like I probably was like a troubled teen.
Speaker 1:So like, all right, I was in um, I was in sixth grade I went to uh pepper in southwest I. I had a lot of trouble always in school. When I got to seventh grade in the beginning of the year they had kicked me out for something I had gotten into or whatever, and I couldn't go to no schools in the public school area, in my feeder or nowhere.
Speaker 1:And at the time John Skeets was opening up harambe and my mom took me to john skeets and he let me come to school, because it was a charter school so I could be able to go. Yeah, yeah and it was like one of the first charter schools?
Speaker 4:I never even heard of a charter I believe the first charter school in philadelphia the first time no doubt I mean that shit started in the crib.
Speaker 1:I believe you know what I mean, so Let me paint Harambe for you In 2001. Alright, you gotta wear black and white On gym day. It's red and black and it's militant as fuck. You raised on all Swahili type shit yeah.
Speaker 4:All African Swahili Muslim shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All African Swahili Muslim type.
Speaker 2:African culture, just learning, I mean like, definitely like you know, just like.
Speaker 1:So you get out of line. They disciplining you Like you like, to the max.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we grew up with it. We had structure. Yeah, we had structure, that's what it was.
Speaker 3:His grandfather is.
Speaker 1:John.
Speaker 4:Skeet. He structure. That's what it was um. His my grandfather, his grandfather he started, built the school. That's his school, the school that's what he built the school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he went to the school and I went to the first, the first cedar of it. I mean, yeah, and it was. It was good for like philadelphia and troubled teens.
Speaker 4:I'm saying I'll give you another shot because before you get it, I'm glad it did that for you. It did that for you. It did that for a lot of people though. I could have went in the system. Ask a lot of people that went there. They kind of say the same type shit.
Speaker 1:I could have went in the system, or I could have went to Harambe. You know what I mean. That shit gave me a lot of structure.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Before I went to high school structure.
Speaker 5:That's what's up, man.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I wanted to bring john skis up because that's your grandpa and I know he was influential. He had to be, because he was influential for me. You know I mean, but yeah, being him being one of your influences and then, you know, coming up in a household like he loved music. I know that about john ski.
Speaker 4:He loved music so I know you came up and like shoes on at the Dell and all that.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. He knew Teddy Pendergrass, he knew Patti LaBelle, he knew all the top entertainers at that time.
Speaker 4:It's crazy because I'm just growing up in a career. I'm his grandson, so I don't know. You know what I mean. I'm oblivious.
Speaker 1:But these people walking through his liver all the time.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. Or he was stepping with them people like you're doing. I'm saying like he was in them rooms and he was well respected by a lot of people so like you know like I mean, but he did a great thing.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean for the community and that's indeed, and it's still dead in me and everybody in my family. I feel like right other people outside of the family. Like I feel like the, the people that go to huron that went to harambe outside of the family. Like I feel like the people that go to Harambe that went to Harambe kind of said the same thing. So you know Right, shout out to Pops, for sure, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you know, give us a couple of or a few of your early musical influences coming up in your household.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, the locks.
Speaker 4:My pop was ripping and running.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's hot who was another influence you had in Philadelphia besides Beans.
Speaker 4:Everybody the Roots. My mom was crazy neo -soul, even R&B Heavy R&B Jill Scottb, like you know what I'm saying. Like heavy r&b. Like jill scott, heavy like you understand, I'm saying like so just, just just great just great music overall like you know what I'm saying, but my pot it was a mixture of the street, like you know what I mean. My mom was playing eve cd. My pop was playing beans and I ain't playing major figures. You know what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying so. That's just, I grew up around that and then, like you know, the dvd era is what raised me like you know what I mean. Like same here, you know what I'm saying so you know, I got a there's many influences from that era like. So you know, and I'm tackling with young bob and all I'm like, you know what I mean with young Bob and all of them.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. Shout out to Bob, yeah. Shout out to Bob. Smart nut-ass, big cousin, never pick up my phone, yeah, but look right. So.
Speaker 2:You be grinding Bob.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bob, you a nut-ass nigga. I told you that already. But um, so look right.
Speaker 1:He crazy man.
Speaker 3:I don't even usually ask these type of questions, like base questions and stuff, like I usually lead that to them and then I come with some whole other. But, being as though you rap the way you do and you put words the way you, I need to know what age was you when you first started writing raps and after that, why? Like what made you be like I'm about to start doing it you?
Speaker 4:feel me it was funny because I think I got like all right. So being a kid I used to want to be a performer and shit Like before it was rap Like I just wanted to perform. I didn't give a fuck if it was dancing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I, it was right like I just wanted to perform.
Speaker 5:I didn't give a if it was dancing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I just was a kid, I wanted to be on tv I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I was going down there, I wanted to do magic.
Speaker 5:I wanted to do all kinds of stuff when I was a kid.
Speaker 4:You understand, but then I think like when I was like eight I believe in, like third grade, is when I kind of went and started trying to write my first raps. Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:You know I'm eight years old and back then it wasn't as over saturated being a rapper back then oh, you understand what I'm saying like everybody, I feel like back then a lot of had sports dreams, it wasn't.
Speaker 4:It wasn't too many, right?
Speaker 5:I mean rap dreams like right now it's ridiculous, everybody raps like you know what I'm saying, like children, rap.
Speaker 4:You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Like got more followers than me bro you understand, bro, I just was at the gas station, bro, the other day, the one right on the corner where we at bro. I walked up to the gas station I see wallow 267, right, yeah. So he talking to people and all that. He just chilling in his car, shout out to love, shout out to wildo. I walked up to him, right, I'm about to be like Yo. He said I don't want to hear no raps, don't play me no music. Tell me some real shit. I don't want to hear no raps, he burnt out.
Speaker 3:Bro, he burnt. Niggas burnt no, not even him. The world burnt out on some rap they burnt out. But go ahead, I ain't mean to.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, but back then it wasn't too many Shout out Wallo.
Speaker 5:You know what I mean, you know.
Speaker 4:I tried to you know what I mean I tried my hand at it. I you know, going through fourth, fifth, sixth grade shit like that, right you know left it alone.
Speaker 5:I was playing sports. I was playing football.
Speaker 4:Okay, you know what I mean. And it was just like a hobby for me, like writing and shit, and it wasn't until I was like 15, 16, where niggas is. You know what I mean by that point?
Speaker 5:I've been off the porch you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:We getting high every day, like right not at school, that type, like you know, and it was like a thing to cipher, like I felt like instrumentals was a big thing back then, like was just putting I don't know and probably been doing this forever. But yeah, you know I mean was throwing on we getting, we getting high, you know I mean, and throwing on instrumentals and that was what you know.
Speaker 1:One day I went home right and I wrote again, and then I came back and was like oh, this, this what age was you, I was like 15.
Speaker 4:15, I believe 15, it was like 15.
Speaker 3:how old is you now?
Speaker 1:I'll be 31 this year, okay 16 years ago so you know, by the time you get 16, you write some some hot of course yeah I'm saying and you like, and I hate that now the that I mean when I hear that?
Speaker 4:type. That's because it was then that time and not and not even necessarily because I don't. I feel like even back then that's why I didn't get there. That's not, that's why I wasn't getting the attention I'm getting now. Back then is because that was like part of me getting here like I mean, I wasn't this nice, right?
Speaker 5:I'm saying like that's why I don't I don't.
Speaker 4:I don like other artists to feel like.
Speaker 1:You woke up, like that, yeah, like this Right.
Speaker 4:So, like now, I don't ignore gifts, right, and I know, I understand that I'm gifted, yeah, right, but I think that's more about how my mind work and I guess it's all so just like my mindset and shit Cause, like my skill, I wind up perfecting through practice you know what I mean. Like, if I play you some of my shit, it don't sound like the shit I was playing you earlier. You know what? I'm saying Like it don't sound like that shit. So I perfected my skill, but it's my mindset, that's my gift.
Speaker 2:So what's a challenge you like faced in life? That like shaped you as a person To be how you are now, like the way you move, and you know we talking off camera. But you know, like people could tell how you move, you like real quiet until it's time to get on that stage. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4:And it's crazy because, I've always been like that, like I've always been, mean, like credit and like the look and attention. I don't care about none of that shit so really, I'm in an awkward position because this is my career now, right, but I'm like for real, for real, I and I wouldn't even call myself introverted, because if you see me out, I'm just cool, I'm just laid back like that's just my job.
Speaker 5:yeah, I'm saying so, I don't know, that's just how I Like. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:So I don't know, that's just how I always been, but I've been through all kinds of shit, bro, growing up, I've been losing people since I was a kid, like you know what I mean Seeing people die all kinds of shit Like we grew up in Philadelphia, bro, you know it's traumatic Regular, like we thinking shit regular and it's sweet.
Speaker 2:Like mental health.
Speaker 4:We was just talking to.
Speaker 2:Nasty yesterday about that. Yeah, bro.
Speaker 4:I had friends going through crazy shit and I'm right there with them and I'm like you understand what I'm saying Like that's the type of shit.
Speaker 3:So all right, bet and white boy, you could go after what?
Speaker 5:I'm about to.
Speaker 3:If you had a question. So let's dig a little bit because you know we got the beginning. White Boy, you know, asked you the influences you growing up. You said something about you writing a rap 15. It was, I mean, all that right. So let's fast forward a little bit. If you from Philadelphia, one of your dreams is always to go up on Power 99 with Kev and be seen on a freestyle.
Speaker 5:Especially if you rap.
Speaker 4:Street all that, like all that, Fill me horns. Shout out to Kev DJ Touchtone. Shout out to Kev. Bill Me Horns Shout out to Kev DJ Touchtone Shout out to Kev.
Speaker 3:So, like I said, man Kev is definitely, if not, the biggest of our city. Yeah, Probably like top three pioneers when it come to music.
Speaker 2:Breaking the artists in the city. That's a fact. We known for our DJs and our rappers and everything.
Speaker 3:So I got to ask this right, yeah, I know I ain't speaking for myself when the fuck did this one for Gordy pop up? Because I'm trying to tell you, bro, like everybody say this, when I told people I was interviewing you, they all said the same shit. I said, yeah, I ain't never hear from this nigga. And then the next day he just did the best cosmic kev come up show ever, like it was just. Like you didn't know I'm here, I leave. Then poof, you knew him, yeah that's really.
Speaker 4:It seemed like that too no, but so so I'm.
Speaker 3:So I'm gonna ask you like First I wanna ask you it wasn't even no build up, like he didn't even hear a song. You just went up there and fucked it up, or it was like a. You feel what I'm saying, so you don't.
Speaker 1:Cause I don't know. No, I mean I listened to him before, so I think I think you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So I think, but answer that when he done it.
Speaker 1:So I think, but answer that when he done it. So I think, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 2:Was it Kirk y'all?
Speaker 1:No, this where Fresh come in at.
Speaker 2:Oh, alright, let's talk about.
Speaker 1:Fresh, fresh the legend. Let's get Fresh on the show For like Like three minutes man. Hold on, just sit next to me real quick, so, so.
Speaker 3:Shout out Fresh. Man Shout out Fresh the legend my boy.
Speaker 2:Got him right here man.
Speaker 1:So I remember, I remember.
Speaker 2:Make sure he good.
Speaker 1:I remember hearing your name. I think I seen you on something that, uh, maybe Leaf Ward, maybe we had posted Something like that or something, or maybe Fresh was like Right before that. But I know, I know, I know all of this was like right before that man, but I know, I know I know all of this was like around the same time and I know you did a fresh event and tore that shit down.
Speaker 3:Oh, this answer my question. Yes, all right. Yeah, it's footage.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so, so, yeah, so Look at Fresh, fresh is happy, he's just smiling.
Speaker 3:Look at him, he can't wait, he can't wait.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to pass the mic to Fresh.
Speaker 3:Yo Fresh, the legend, y'all Really the most podcast family man.
Speaker 5:Family, family, family. Definitely. I'm smiling, I'm thinking about that night. He came Like I've been doing events for a minute, but it ain't been the same since I met Amir Ali. I met Amir Ali at my event and I didn't even meet him. I heard his voice. I wasn't even looking at him, I didn't even. I was arguing with somebody. You know what I'm saying. And then kind of I don't know you. It's like it's a lot of people on the list, I don't know a lot of people. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:If you're talented.
Speaker 5:I'm going to need to know you. I'm arguing with the girl about what. I'm arguing with her about the list. She's like I skipped her or whatever. I hear her. I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 3:God Fuck you bitch. Who is that?
Speaker 5:This is irrelevant.
Speaker 3:This is my duty. Sport, get the fuck out of my way.
Speaker 1:I go through a lot of. You've been doing this for years.
Speaker 5:I go through a lot. I'm over mic, so there's a lot of artists, that's not, you've been doing it for years, bro.
Speaker 2:So I'm like damn, I mean, this is, this is a bitch face. He said fuck that.
Speaker 5:You know how you dig for gold, oh shit this is gold.
Speaker 2:Been digging for years. I heard it.
Speaker 5:Trying to look that you know what I'm saying. Okay, I put a picture, an image, to the voice. I said I gotta hear it again. Boom stopped it. I ran that shit back. Luke, ran it back. Man, it was history man. He Hall of Fame man, amir Ali, changed the frequency of what I was doing just by coming through with the way he rap how he carry himself Like it's crazy, I wasn't even gonna go there.
Speaker 2:I wasn't going to go. Let me hear you. I want your side now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, alright, so For real, for real, how you remember that night. I had like Well that night In particular, I went to An open mic At Rec Fully, shout out Rec Fully, shout out Rec Fully.
Speaker 2:I went there.
Speaker 4:And they do a raffle For the open mic. So if your name Don't get picked, you know what I mean by the end of the night you know, you know, I'm saying like that's how some of them go and like we went right to fresh drawn right afterwards.
Speaker 5:Right because I saw my young boys on there shout out to raising.
Speaker 4:Now I mean, we go there and I don't know. I don't even remember how many people it was. It just was like we did patiently, yeah for me. I was on my right, like I. Like I said how I am, I'm gonna fly on the wall. I don't really be you know what I mean in the mix.
Speaker 4:Like I might I know people, but I ain't you know what I'm saying. Like you rarely even see me for real, but like so you know. I just waited my turn and yeah, that was that. Like I got up there and rap like I do all the time. Like that's how I.
Speaker 5:I be at the crib when nobody looking like me the same way he blessed me because I was so on. I pulled the phone out taking all types of videos and pictures and photos, and then I waited. Next day I started posting them and my whole gram changed. You know what I'm saying. Everybody was going to my page because he wasn't posting on his page at that time. Shows like that he was just doing it, but I'm already known for it. Like.
Speaker 3:I'm already Exactly, yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I already had the platform for it, so once I put.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they good.
Speaker 5:Once Amir Ali. People are seeing him on the platform. Everybody just came in to find him, you know what. I'm saying he outta here, he doin' his thing. But I wanna say about Amir Aliyah, he humble People don't like that word humble and stuff like that but it's like I love Nipsey Lit Sub-Legendary. I named that after Nipsey because I was talking about Nipsey and I was saying he was livin' Sub-Legendary. That's how I came up with my brand. So Nip, why I do what I do? You know what I mean. Like that same thing, entrepreneurialism.
Speaker 5:yes, I went to meet him when he was alive. I went to his store when he was alive. You feel me Like this?
Speaker 3:is a fact.
Speaker 5:You feel me To try to meet that man and I ain't get no likes on the ground when I posted, but when he died that shit went crazy, my grand. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That was a real one.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but it's about being humble, like he hot and all that, but he don't care, like I'm better than you or I'm hotter than you or yeah, or because I'm out of my element, you got to do this for me or you got to treat me like this, like this is Philly. I'm not used to that.
Speaker 3:So we getting in from the horse's mouth, Fresh the legend you saying that, amir Ali turned you up.
Speaker 2:Basically, that's what you saying. I'm saying that, yeah, round of applause.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't even say turn him up, cause then we build a relationship and we push each other, our pushings. It ain't even like it's all, it's all perspective.
Speaker 5:It's all perspective. That's how I look at it. Virgo, libra it's all perspective. You understand, it's all perspective, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:That's how I look at it.
Speaker 5:So man listen. Virgo, libra man, september, october. You know what I'm saying, right there you know what I mean. Like we help each other out. That's my brother, but from Kev though. Like not that night, so Kev was.
Speaker 4:I did a A freestyle On the wake up call.
Speaker 3:Shout out On the wake up call shout out, shout out, no, no, no, that's takeover. Oh shit, wake up call.
Speaker 4:Oh alright, my fault, my fault for the machine no, no, I did a shout out to Kurt freestyle on his platform and then Kev saw that oh that is the first one I seen yeah, kev saw that wake up call shout out to Kurt that's bro, that's bro, cousin, and shit. Yeah, oh shit, all right, yeah, we got to get Krip Yo.
Speaker 3:I did. Kev was not the first one, it was something else.
Speaker 4:No, it was the wake up call you know what I mean. I did that that went viral. You know what I mean. That was viral.
Speaker 5:That's what he be doing. Go around there, this nigga, just go Free, go. He fired.
Speaker 3:I think he touched.
Speaker 1:That's what.
Speaker 4:I said Can you spend a free shot on hair.
Speaker 5:I said usually Philly artists want to take it for themselves. You feel me. I had to go to Atlanta to see a culture of unity, of people really like they popping, but come on, good, to get on this song. How Kylie is too. You know what I'm saying. They like that. I mean they sure love Philly, not like that. It's like Atlanta took effect on me too.
Speaker 2:Bro, just stay on the couch.
Speaker 3:Don't even move, bro, just stay on the couch.
Speaker 2:Atlanta took effect on me too.
Speaker 3:Stay on the couch, bro, don't even move.
Speaker 2:That's why this is here, like bro he, the reason why White Boy doing all this music shit.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:No bullshit bro. Why, why, why? Amir Ali why I stamp him is because he's unifying the city. I watch his man go on different podcasts, do feature different artists, go to people's shows and be a fly on the wall still viral, though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:It's like yo, bro. You know who you are. Y'all know how I am, bro. This is what I'm here to do, though. You know what I mean. Like I'm regular, like you. You know what I mean. I got a talent, but I'm here to help everybody rise with it. You know what I mean. Like he comes from. You know what I mean Harambe. He comes from that lineage. This shit, he like that.
Speaker 3:He like that talk. So, Round of applause for that man. Round of applause.
Speaker 4:Well, bro, legendary night.
Speaker 2:The mayor walked in here too, man.
Speaker 1:Shout out my boy man, it's who I'm following.
Speaker 3:You the fucking building Big speed man, real rad.
Speaker 5:Big speed so.
Speaker 3:So so Cav reach out.
Speaker 4:Boom yeah, hit me, hit me like On a Like through somebody else I know Like FaceTime me Through they phone. I answer it's cuz I'm like, I'm like it's Cosmic Cubs.
Speaker 5:Oh alright, I call everybody cuz, oh, alright.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:No, no, no.
Speaker 4:He thought it was cuz.
Speaker 5:The people confused, I know everybody.
Speaker 4:I know he talk about thatek Cuzz he talk about that come from my, that come from my grandfathers, and all of that I didn't even know, meek was Cuzz Till.
Speaker 3:I met them.
Speaker 4:It's a Philly joint.
Speaker 3:I don't know what the fuck is y'all talking about, but no, kev had called me.
Speaker 4:Kev had called me through somebody else I know and I answer the phone. I look I'm like who the fuck? I'm like this Cosmic Kev. He's like, yeah, what's up? Nigga, it's me. I'm like, oh shit, I'm like Kev. I'm like I said you know you called me up there. I was like I'm not gonna fuck around Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:He was like.
Speaker 4:Alright, he was like A lot of niggas talk that shit, but like you know what I mean. He was like I like what you did. You know what I mean he was like. I like what you did he was like. But he was like you know what I mean. He was like I'm gonna open the lane up and I was like I got a job to do, like it ain't about nothing else I ain't going there, in no way or nothing like and I don't even be, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:I went up there in a hoodie, like you know what I mean I just came to wreck.
Speaker 3:That was it, right. It's crazy because, right, a lot of people don't know this. But look, he did the same to me, bro, yeah he reached out to me. He did the same shit to me, bro. He reached out to me. He said bro, they posted me on Philly Scoop on my joint, Bro, this nigga straight comment on it. Look, white boy, he straight comment.
Speaker 4:We going to put him on the screen somewhere.
Speaker 3:He straight comment, bro he be paying attention.
Speaker 4:Yo, I need that shit now bro. I'm so starstruck.
Speaker 3:I'm like yo for real. Just look at me, bro. I'm like yo you serious Yo all that shit he's like bro, what I'm on. That's what my son called. He said bro. He said send that shit. You all start sending me that. So shout out to Live to Die. He recorded Leave Warden, everybody Live to Die. At the time he was working for my brother, audio Boy Zeke. Shout out to Zeke man.
Speaker 5:Yeah, shout out to Zeke, I love you.
Speaker 3:Even though you mad at me, I love you, but you know Audio Boy Studios is owned by my blood brother. Life was working for him, so Life was real busy with Leaf, yeah, so everything I was sending him he just was taking a long time. So I snapped on him like bro, I got cosmic kev in my dms wanting to play my song, and you keep. You know how. He fixed it real quick. Kev played that shit for like a month straight, like all the weekends for like a month. People from the jails was this, that and the third. But this ain't about me though, man.
Speaker 1:I just wanted to.
Speaker 2:Say that Cause Kev, always Showing love, shout out to Cosmic Kev, he don't need bro, he is a pioneer On some.
Speaker 3:Charlie.
Speaker 5:McPie.
Speaker 4:Jeff type shit.
Speaker 3:And he still Look on Philly Scoop Hall.
Speaker 4:Like you said bro, this, that and the third Growing up. If I was Bro, this shit started in a cypher with my niggas. I want to get straight into it bro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And then, as I start getting good, you know what I mean. I want to get straight into it.
Speaker 3:I'm here, I'll leave man, I just get straight into it.
Speaker 2:You just was speaking on when you grew up and all that right, yeah.
Speaker 4:Who get straight to Philadelphia. Philadelphia rappers Not including yourself, Not including you. Wes 5'9". I think it's one of my top Am I saying top five right now active rappers, or just ever?
Speaker 2:Whatever you say.
Speaker 3:Because if it's ever, then it got to be. I know if you do the active it's going to be probably on the screen.
Speaker 4:If it's ever, it's probably Beans, I think, vodka.
Speaker 2:This list getting crazy Vodka. You be mentioning it here, I think, reed.
Speaker 4:Is one of my favorite Philadelphia rappers ever. Meek is definitely one of them and I'm trying to think of who else like, um, I want to make sure, and then you know what I mean. You know I gotta get an honorable uh john. Uh black thought one of one of the greatest rappers ever you know what I mean no order, but just like now, right now now.
Speaker 2:I'm doing right now, right now, like there we go at this time shine light on somebody, I think uh, I think wuss.
Speaker 4:Wuss is one of my favorite.
Speaker 3:My boy um kyle from Jerome my boy, one of my favorite rappers, the hottest.
Speaker 4:I'm trying to make sure I come correct. I ain't going to lie. You know what I mean. Shout out Lil Leafy yeah, one of my favorite rappers, right? You know what I mean. And I'm trying to think personally what I listen to, because I got relationships with a lot of rappers, but I'll be playing these in my playlist like every day. I listen to, like you know what I mean. I listen to Wes, I listen to Kyle, I listen to Leaf every day. I listen to Tour.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know what I mean. That's four and he's sturdy. All four of them are sturdy.
Speaker 4:I'm trying to think, yeah, yeah, yeah, lights, you know what I mean. And it's crazy because I feel like I don't even consider bro a rapper, just a rapper, because he raps. But bro make music yeah, he does. That's a different genre, yeah he a different, you know what I mean. I don't know, if you consider bro a rap star because he multi-talented Rap simple don't choose that nigga different bro.
Speaker 3:Bro, he a different breed. We getting right into it right, Alright?
Speaker 2:bet.
Speaker 3:Alright, bet Westside, that's something you stand on, that's something you live by, shaped you as a man, all that. That's important. You know what I'm saying? I'ma see this right, you got Leaf Ward. I'm going to say this right, you got Leaf Ward, and then you got Tor, and then you got Amir Ali Y'all arguably the three best rappers in Philly right now. I like that. So we know what Tore could do. He been doing it for years Around cuz yeah On the drones.
Speaker 3:We know what Leaf can do. He put on for the city more than anybody right now.
Speaker 4:Free Leafy, Free Leafy man.
Speaker 3:So it's really the most right. No doubt it's really the most right. There's no doubt. Did you ever feel competitive pressure, being as Doleef and Tor got the West Side shit going on as much as you? Did you ever feel pressure like I got to outdo them or I got to stand in right here alone because they do that and they got this fan base like just on some keeping it a being like yeah, did you ever feel?
Speaker 4:pressure bro? No, not at all, because I don't like it's perspective with me, bro. Like you know, I mean like I was telling you I've been rapping since I was 15, like you know, I mean around that time, and I could have been out then but I didn't I waited until I was 30. Right or 29. You understand what I'm saying I'm 29.
Speaker 3:I'm a grown fucking man now Right.
Speaker 4:You understand what I'm saying. I ain't got time to be worried about it. I don't like bro. I'm going to let niggas know. I feel like I've said it a couple. If niggas think I can rap.
Speaker 3:Or who can rap better than who.
Speaker 4:I don't care about shit like that Cause my ego Is out of it. You know when my ego come in when I'm writing, that's where that shit live at. That's why I sound mean like that. You do know what I'm saying. Like somebody ask me Do I want to be a bad rapper?
Speaker 2:No. So what gets you passionate To go write?
Speaker 4:I don't know, bro, it's just a gift. Sometimes I rap every day in my head all day, all day long when I hear words.
Speaker 1:That's just how my brain how you separate your ego from putting it on paper, from living it out inside your everyday life.
Speaker 4:I think, focusing on my mental health after losing people and stuff like that, I really just got here, like you know what I'm saying, I wasn't always here, like so it was the, the turn of events. I lost my brother, manny shout out, manny, little manny dot. Like right, I lost him. 2019, kind of like, was on a was on a downward spiral from there and then, like I had a reality check. You know what I mean and that's what made me say yo, you know what I mean. This your time. So, like I don't know, like I just was in a different mindset. I'm growing. So like I was a little bit more ignorant before so check this right.
Speaker 1:So you been putting on a clinic, i'ma say the last six months. I'ma just go there. It's been the last year, but I'ma just, i'ma just go the last six months. Yeah, so um, six, six songs and two freestyles. I gotta keep saying that, cause that's just different. It take a lot more For motherfuckers to get exposure. And you on, like you make it to like the roots off of shit like that. Performing at the roots, I don't want to say, just make it to the roots.
Speaker 4:Because you could have just attended.
Speaker 1:You could have just got passes and attended. No, you performed at the roots, the biggest festival?
Speaker 4:I don't know bro.
Speaker 2:I'm still on stage. How was that? How was that? Bro't know bro, I'm still on the high from that.
Speaker 4:How was that? How was that, bro? You know what I mean. Shout out. Black Thought called me Shout out Black, thought he said. He said I got a spot for you.
Speaker 3:Dope.
Speaker 4:I said, just like I told Kev, I said big bro, you give me that spot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Like I'm not fucking around. You know what?
Speaker 3:I mean Like I'm not fucking around, like you know what I mean. No doubt I'm ready. You know what I'm saying. How do?
Speaker 4:you prepare for something?
Speaker 1:Comment, bro Give me that, because that's the viral clip, bro, I walk in the trailer, bro, and they just instantly show me Like, bro, it was like.
Speaker 4:They already knew you I like to say it felt like a dream, but it's not something I ever dreamed of, right, you understand, I never thought I would be in a trailer.
Speaker 1:Common Freeway.
Speaker 4:E-Nest Method man, red man, black, thought Come on bro. Whoa Come on bro, and like and like, and then they and look.
Speaker 2:And then they Wait, wait, wait. I'm not going by, past that like that.
Speaker 4:How was that set up? Because then they turn around to me like Come on, it's your turn. You know, I'm like I hop right in my bag.
Speaker 5:Like I said, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Method.
Speaker 5:Man.
Speaker 4:Santa. He's like yo kid, you got some shit with you kid. I'm in there like.
Speaker 3:Meth told you that. Yeah, bro, yo, he would have went crazy, bro the hell. Meth told you that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, yo, he would have went crazy Bro. I don't, meth told you I don't know. My bro would have went crazy in there.
Speaker 4:That's why I say I'm still on the high from it because, like I'm, such a calm nigga.
Speaker 3:Meth told you that bro.
Speaker 4:No, no, I'm such a lead big fly on the wall, nigga.
Speaker 2:I'm not a bad fly on the wall nigga, I'm just playing it cool. The room is the. I'm talking about the elite of the elite.
Speaker 1:The elite of the elites is in the room, Like you know what I'm saying, bro.
Speaker 2:Only person missing is Hoove.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm like that.
Speaker 4:Ah, yeah, bro.
Speaker 3:Nas and.
Speaker 4:Hoove.
Speaker 5:I don't even know.
Speaker 4:Right, that's what I'm saying. It's crazy, because I had just missed Nas. I just missed him. Damn, I just missed him, but you know what I mean. You know if I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm going to run to him, so look.
Speaker 1:All right, okay, boom Right. So, leading up to that, like I said, you was putting a clinic on. You know, crazy, crazy, going crazy that you there, right, and you with the a-list and leaders. Now I know you like what the fuck I'm here, but in a sense still to like I'm supposed to be here.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like you know, I'm saying because, like, if I wasn't, you wouldn't be there yeah, I tried this shit a lot of times and it ain't work and I had like I was half-assing it, I had one foot in one foot right on my regular life and not like really taking this shit serious and right, younger years, yeah, and then one day I was like yo, you gonna stop fucking around.
Speaker 5:Yeah, let's go and I did like, and I you know what I'm saying that's how I got here and that's that's literally the difference.
Speaker 4:That's all it was. I just had to look in the mirror and be like so do you look at this more like?
Speaker 2:I bet when you was probably Growing up into it, you was looking at it as fun or probably therapeutic.
Speaker 4:I don't even know. I think I had the wrong perspective on how shit worked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't. You had to be the hottest rapper, I didn't care about how it actually worked.
Speaker 4:I had all these assumptions about what I've heard and saw from other people.
Speaker 2:Listen, y'all pick up on this, because A lot of people need to really pay attention to this part right here.
Speaker 3:So listen. Right before we started the pod I said, bro, it's something you did in philadelphia. Yeah, that nobody did, he told me.
Speaker 4:I had the weak juice.
Speaker 3:So, I'm going to tell you right.
Speaker 2:We're going to give it to you.
Speaker 3:Y'all know me, bro, I'm a friend of people I'm around, so these is not just like if I name drop or say something, these are people I can call. Or that's going to be on a show. You got the Rico Havocs, you got the Simpsons, the D4M Sloans what did they all do to get poppin'?
Speaker 1:They danced.
Speaker 3:They did too. $100,000,000, 500,000 Million on E-vids Girl songs yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, not even that. Millions on E-vids yeah, views TikTok, armani, bro, you ain't do none of that, bro, I don't know, and you running a fucking.
Speaker 5:It wasn't, he ain't got no.
Speaker 1:Listen, bro. That's what goes to show you.
Speaker 3:You don't gotta compromise, but that's what I'm trying to tell you, bro. Who else did that?
Speaker 4:are you never, and I mean, I don't like, I don't want to talk. Like you know me, bro, I hate talking like that because, it's like who else did that though?
Speaker 2:who else the narrative listen?
Speaker 3:who else?
Speaker 2:what bro?
Speaker 3:right, like really really look at it, bro, like you, you really gotta do your research.
Speaker 5:The answer you saying microwave versus oven, bro? Everybody you said is seasonal rappers. This man is longevity and that and listen.
Speaker 3:That's my point. That's my point. If you look up amir ali on youtube, if you look him up on tiktok, if you look up, he ain't gonna have that joint on top a million. Sorry, not 30, sorry, not sorry, 30k on youtube in the city though, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:You go somewhere, you go somewhere.
Speaker 3:They singing it word from word when we attended uh welcome to high street listening to you everybody word for word a million views, none of them got five.
Speaker 1:Come on, bro.
Speaker 3:It's different how the fuck do a person who don't even got 100,000 on a video Is performing with the fucking roots. Bro, you feel what I'm?
Speaker 1:trying to say it's different. That's why.
Speaker 3:I said this shit.
Speaker 1:It's different. How'd you perform?
Speaker 5:With the roots. How'd you get in?
Speaker 3:Backstage With Common. And how was you doing this Without a label and a hit song? Bro, he the only person who ever did that In the city.
Speaker 5:Ever, I had to tell you that His music is doing, his bars are doing it. That's what I'm saying. Everybody know the real. We've been waiting for it Since the Messiah. What's the Messiah? Everybody waiting for the Messiah.
Speaker 3:It's crazy bro.
Speaker 5:Brad was like oh, that's the shit that we want, that's the shit that we do this for, no gimmicks.
Speaker 3:No, I gotta B-Foot this and be on live.
Speaker 5:The gimmicks.
Speaker 4:The antics? None of it's just rap. It's just rap. That's what it is. It's just rap. It ain't used, it ain't like.
Speaker 3:This person put a chain around his neck. None of that.
Speaker 1:None of that bro, none of that, it's just. Westside I'ma fuck it up and.
Speaker 3:I'm out In the city and the city gonna love me, am I?
Speaker 4:tripping or not, I need this shirt.
Speaker 3:Somebody else did that. Am I tripping or not this shirt? Somebody else did that.
Speaker 1:Am I tripping or no, no, absolutely not I like that.
Speaker 2:I like the fact that you could just pull up as is and be you bro.
Speaker 4:I've been here the whole time.
Speaker 5:Niggas, just ain't see me.
Speaker 1:I was in the back of the room Off camera how much do I say that, bro, that's the greatest shit ever, that we don't gotta challenge our integrity, bro. Our moral compass is where it's supposed to be, bro, and we winning, bro, and we winning. No gimmicks, bro, nobody doing this shit bro.
Speaker 3:One of the hottest rappers in philadelphia ain't wearing nike flip flops. No balenciagas. No all that extra shit bro. Niggas be having all these insecurities as artists. Gotta put on somebody else's to, put on somebody else's watch, put on somebody else's chain and got to do all these antics.
Speaker 2:Oh shit.
Speaker 5:My last views ain't getting too much.
Speaker 3:Let me come at this person. Let me beef with this person.
Speaker 5:bro, I really know niggas who be calling niggas Talk them out.
Speaker 3:Yo let's rap beef so our views can get up Talk about it, ken, you're not getting that one bro, you You're not getting that one, bro, you're not.
Speaker 4:You know why, though? You know why? No, no, no, listen, though, because I pay attention to everybody, like that's. It's hard not to be influenced by that. For a long time, I was right, right and think that way, but then I look at other artists, right Like you know who I look at, where I'm like like everybody, I feel like shout out to Russell.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. Shout out to Russell.
Speaker 4:Everybody see what Russell doing. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Holding it down for independent artists.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. Just about keeping his Independence. You understand what I'm saying. He got a strong foundation, so you know what I mean. You know he inspire all independent artists, I feel like. But somebody I like to look and pay attention to is Russ. Like Russ don't give a fuck if he got a hit on a radio, or even if it is on a radio, nobody's even we not, or I don't want to say nobody, because it is somebody. It's the people that want to fucking buy his music.
Speaker 5:That's it.
Speaker 4:It's not the fucking platform. He didn't fucking get on the radar, or maybe he did. I don't want to say he did, but I'm just saying like it's not the all the other things that you would think. And I think in the beginning, what I told niggas before it was everybody paying attention to me. What I told niggas was, like yo, we never made 70 000 off of music before. I'm like, let's just figure out how to make some money. That's, that's all we needed to do. Let's figure out how to make some money. Yeah, that's that's all we needed to do. Let's figure out how to make some money. So then now we can say, all right, let's turn. You know, I mean, let's, let's. Let's figure out how to make a dub. Let's figure out how to make this. Let's figure out how to make that.
Speaker 5:Let's figure out how shit work a lot of artists only rap because they want the world to hear on. Amir ali was doing it for his family and friends. It was all about his close. He didn't play about his friends and family. He was real serious about that. You know, my mom, dukes, my brother got to be here, my dad, you know I need my people to be right and through that, everybody going through that. So it was like they're in the world liking it. He be like man, that's cool.
Speaker 3:That's different in its own right.
Speaker 1:First time I met him at the studio, I walked in the studio, bro. He was reading a book called how the Industry Worked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying what is it called? All you Need to Know. Oh yeah, yeah, One of the best books in the world.
Speaker 1:I'm like whoa, you know what I'm saying? No, bro.
Speaker 4:I'm just trying'm still learning and I feel like everybody.
Speaker 1:They pulling me here, they pulling me there, but I need to know. I need to know what I'm getting myself into.
Speaker 5:I need to know, what this
Speaker 2:stuff look like Before I sit down to it, so you to actually be successful.
Speaker 4:So he's smart. Yeah, bro, I don't gotta be.
Speaker 2:It's the right way to really go when it becomes Depending on the artist or and right now is the best time. It's like the best time to be a best time. Hell yeah, straight to consumer.
Speaker 4:You figure out how to make money and monetize your community. Bro, listen, it's serious.
Speaker 1:Just watch Cod do it and throw a wonderful show.
Speaker 2:Shout out to.
Speaker 4:Lil Cod? Yeah, no doubt. So, with that being said, you know what I'm saying. Shout out to Lil'.
Speaker 5:Kyle, you did it. Yeah, yeah, no doubt Shout out to Lil' Kyle.
Speaker 3:So, with that being said, I knew I wasn't tripping. I just got y'all to agree. You're the only person in the city who really did that. You got to have that million dollar, john and I'm at million view, john and 500,000.
Speaker 4:You changed the whole norm. It's like what it is is the shit you validate other people with. You can't even validate me with that. It be straight like no, cuz is just hot.
Speaker 3:Like he just hot yeah no doubt.
Speaker 4:Like I said, bro, I hate looking at it that way. I think I got my own for my own personal Cool. You know what I mean. I hate looking at it that way. I think I got my own For my own personal Cool, but like you know what I mean, I don't even like to say it's speaking politically correct and shit like that. I really think that way.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:It keep my ego low Right, so I don't gotta think About shit like that. I let everybody else talk. I like listening to other niggas Talk about it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. So alright, but kind of mean like so, so all right. But with that being said, I knew I wasn't tripping, yeah y'all just made me realize it even more. So this is that. That's gonna go uh into my next question, right, dude? Um, welcome to high street. Scheduled to drop august? Right yeah, high Street.
Speaker 4:High Street in August. Yeah, Welcome to High Street Was the show.
Speaker 3:Okay, so it's just called High Street. Yeah, it's called High Street, alright, so so so.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm going to the studio Right after this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, take us, take us through that, take us, take us through the. Process of High Street the process of High Street, why it's called High Street. Yeah, and how. The process of High Street. The process of High Street, why it's called High Street, and how to tell the people how. What's the concept? Yeah.
Speaker 4:You feel me. Well, bro, it's my chance to get my story off myself. That's how I'm looking at it. You know what I'm saying. My story off myself. Like that's how I'm looking at it. Like you know what I'm saying. Um, you know, I'm in a lot of creative control because I got, like one of my very close friends, my brother j saif is my producer, engineer. Everything we make this art together.
Speaker 4:Are you doing? I'm saying when it comes to the music, like, um, so, like I said, I got a lot of control over it and I think this is just my chance to tell, kind of like, a musical story. Like you know what I mean, I don't even want to because I feel like everybody is, and don't get me wrong, it is appropriate to lean into the story, right, yeah, but sometimes you don't got to have a lot of like, like, and I feel like music is like you don't have to have a lot of words, or you know what I mean. I don't gotta like lead you directly, step by step, to what I'm saying. You kind of just gonna you understand what I'm saying. Like I want you to hear the story through the music, and it's not necessarily me telling you nothing super graphic, or, oh, I went through this and you know what I mean and I came up and I hit a lick, and then now we up.
Speaker 4:And then my nigga went to jail and then it's not like a, it's not like a story where it's like the middle, beginning and end, where I could tell you what the fuck is going on. It's just my chance to tell you what I is my experience. Through perspective, I mean my perspective, the Flamer drop.
Speaker 5:Yup, you hear me. Yup, I said it first the hottest shit in Philly since Flamer Ew.
Speaker 3:So this one you know I'm from Germantown yeah, we got a high street, yeah. So when I heard that, I was like, is it a high street in West?
Speaker 4:No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3:You feel me.
Speaker 4:It. It's not even from there, it's not even from Philly, it's from High Street, is the block I got my first crib On when I moved to Virginia. See, I went on a run.
Speaker 3:That's why shit like that Important. You know what I mean. So yeah, cause you, you put out High Street.
Speaker 4:A motherfucker thing.
Speaker 3:His block. His High Street and that's why you got action like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, high.
Speaker 3:Street.
Speaker 1:Is basically where Quilly's from Basically, and it's crazy Because like that's something that People will really wanna know. Yeah.
Speaker 4:People gonna ask High street run.
Speaker 3:All the way down it's Germantown Ave and then high street Run all the way.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I had to ask you that, because when they were like welcome a couple high streets in a lot of places. Yeah, I know about a couple, so so so high street is based off somewhere. You lived in virginia, yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 4:I had went um that's crazy in 2013, one of my uh uh, one of my close friends died, jay, you know. I mean. Long live jay um.
Speaker 5:And at that time, you know you.
Speaker 4:I mean when, when, when deaths happen. You either got the choice to like. Let it help you lock in or you know, I mean, at the time I wasn't living right and you know, I mean, you know I was on a downward spiral and, like you know, um, I just had folks out there and I, you know, left, I just packed my shit and I just was like I'm out and I had to finesse and survive for a few months.
Speaker 2:What time ever was this?
Speaker 4:It's like 2013. It's crazy. I was going to school, Bro. I went to like six high schools and then wound up dropping out and shit. So then I dropped out in like 2011. So from there to like 2013, I was just doing me out here like you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:huh, you don't have one.
Speaker 4:No, I went got my gd. Okay, you know what I mean. Yeah, no, because that was, that was what I was on back in the day.
Speaker 2:Like I didn't think I I didn't think this highly of myself back then like you know what I'm saying, like I was blinded by whatever the fuck the streets was going on yeah, in front of me at the time, so like so do you got any advice you could probably give to, let me say uh, up-and-coming artists, that's probably trying to follow in your footsteps and meet a guy like Legendary Fresh over here.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know, bro. It's a lot of advice, but it's just about understanding yourself, what you want, what you're actually doing and going for, and I think you know that's no material thing. Like we was talking earlier, you never know that's no material thing. Like we was talking earlier, you never know what we're going to be next year, what the title's going to be right. So it's not like I'm going to be. I want to sell and I want to win 18 Grammys. That's not my goal. My goal is to affect change. You understand what I'm saying. So you never know what role I'm going to be playing next year to do what I'm trying to do. You understand what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know, bro.
Speaker 2:So you know.
Speaker 5:Yeah, my fault.
Speaker 4:Just know what you really get in tune with yourself and figure out what you're trying to do, because then at that point the world will open up for you. You know what I mean. I feel like we try, I don't know, I can't speak for everywhere else. You know what I mean and other artists, but especially being a young Philadelphia artist where everybody rap and everybody doing the same thing and it's crab in a barrel and it's whatever the fuck else they say about us.
Speaker 5:You know what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying Like once you figure out what you trying to do and tap in with yourself, everything else open up I say this and I'm done.
Speaker 2:Uh, so what's next for you?
Speaker 4:bro, I'm going on a run. You know what I'm saying, and I, I think you know. I mean we're gonna drive high street and then I got a couple projects coming after that. Like I, I'm trying to make music, bro. Yeah we know and then and then from there, you know, I got. I got a couple different things in the works, like you know. I mean, um, you know a couple conversations to still be had, but I'm trying to like get into like community work and everything like no doubt you understand so I'm trying to like beat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, that's my brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah yeah, we, we, we ever see yourself doing movies uh, yeah, absolutely all right so so being
Speaker 4:like acting in school and all that. Banners though you were, you were, you know we at a high point.
Speaker 1:We travel on a high frequency. And you at that point Give us, like how you've been keeping your focus and how you've been executing.
Speaker 4:Great question. I don't know, bro, I ain't perfect, I'm distracted. Still, you understand what I'm saying. It might look like something, but I'm still. Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. Like it, it might look Like something, but I'm still I'm, you understand?
Speaker 2:what I'm saying, you're still executed To me.
Speaker 4:That's good to know that, though To me I guess, maybe I don't know, maybe it's because I feel like you could be doing more, I could be doing more. You're always like that. That's how I always am. But Like bro I was just looking through our thread, I just looked at a joint I should say like yeah, bro, you ain't seen shit yet. I feel like I'm not doing enough. Like bro, I always see shit like that. I always tell you, yeah, no, that's just my mindset, so I guess that's what keeps me focused.
Speaker 4:It's like the fuck, I need to be, I could be Damn. I didn't talk to this person today. I'm like I'm slipping, it's 8pm. I'm like, fuck, I was supposed to do 8 different things today. Like you know what I mean? Nigga, come up, yo bro, you the hottest. I'm them and they're like.
Speaker 3:Fuck, I gotta do it.
Speaker 4:I done fucked up, I ain't called and secured, you know what.
Speaker 5:I'm saying For the drone.
Speaker 4:We having next month. I been fucked up. Now I gotta call Cuz and let him know that I fucked up. You know what I mean Like Cuz in my face, yo bro, you the hottest. I don't even be thinking About that shit. I be thinking about what I could do better.
Speaker 2:Like you know what I'm saying, so I like that man. Really the most, make sure y'all share.
Speaker 3:Like subscribe Comment Hit that notification bell man, don't use a motherfucking hater cuz it's free sir man after our interview yesterday. Shout out the nasty man probably the hardest producer in the fucking trustee right now. After um, we shot with him and the things we was talking about, I kind of wanted to add a new segment to the show. So starting with Fresh. I just want Aaron Simple, just everybody get a people advice on how they could betterly deal with mental health. Start with Fresh. I like that. Mental health, start with fresh.
Speaker 5:I like that. Damn A great way no doubt, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 5:I got two great ways to deal with it. The first one self-help books are amazing. They just put you in a different type of frame of mind and hear people's stories or people's opinions on how to just love yourself or find inner peace. You know what I mean. I'm reading a book right now called the Monk who Gave Away His Ferrari, and it's about just a wealthy man who got sick and went to the Himalayan mountains to sit with the Buddhists and he realized, like the only other material things he thought he needed, he wanted a more simple life. So you heal yourself through that. That's a good way.
Speaker 5:And the second way please be grateful for the spring and the summer to go to. Like my favorite spot I'm gonna give y'all a gym is bartram garden. You mean, find a place in in nature and just sit with yourself, hear your inner voice, your inner thoughts, be one with yourself. When I'm back there, sometimes I forget that. I forget that I'm in the city. When I'm back there, I'll go back to my original state. You know what I mean. That's very important to reset yourself, to recharge and reflect you know what?
Speaker 5:I mean so you can go and do the work. You know, I mean, like you know yourself, when I get charged up, everything has to. It's a balance, so we don't do a good job of of recharging. I'll get one more. I said two, I'm gonna get one more. Take naps. Take naps, man, like reset. You know what I mean. That's something I don't do yeah, like because life, of life has too much coming at you. So if you, don't escape in a sober way.
Speaker 2:Don't escape through drugs I really don't say that, don't skate through a woman, escape through self reading, meditation.
Speaker 5:Uh, uh, uh uh. Being in nature and just taking a nap. Turn everything off, okay that. That's it Okay.
Speaker 3:How about you, white boy? Oh, it's great bro.
Speaker 1:Mine would be. I mean like it would be similar, but it'd be like, talk to your people, man, like you know, I mean always check on your people and if you even got some things going on, like, let it out, don't build that up, like, yeah, talk, don't, don't let it build up too much, whereas though it's going too crazy in your brain, whereas though you can't handle it. And I and I, and I and I really like this saying of deprogram yourself to reprogram yourself. Now, I mean sometimes you gotta let a lot of them old them, old traumas, man and the ways you look at shit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man, you gotta let them, you gotta let all that shit.
Speaker 1:Go, man, to let god give you more and new shit to live on and live by as long as your moral compass is is intact. Man, we are cool, you know what I'm saying. Like we gotta, we gotta get all that old and how we grew up and how we was raised up, out of us a lot to get the new things in it, so that way we could do some great things and stuff like that. But just talk to your people, man, and um, pray, pray yeah, feeling that man excellent yeah, um, some advice to deal with mental health.
Speaker 4:I think y'all know me. I agree with what they said. You know, man, for sure, like reading it's one of them things like you know. Yeah, I mean seeking knowledge for sure, because that's what I'm writing, this shit.
Speaker 4:I mean like definitely reading helped me with my struggles. You know what I mean. Like, because we all got struggles and I didn't realize it. So you know what I mean. Like definitely reading helped me with my struggles. You know what I mean. Like, because we all got struggles and I didn't realize it. Until you know what I mean, you know it affected the people around me and that's when you really start to see like damn, like maybe I'm wrong or some shit like that. So you know what I mean Definitely. And talking, talking to your folks Like that's important. You talking to your folks like that's important. You know I'm saying, but always definitely just being like. I stay in a mindset like I'm. I'm never the teacher, but I'm always the student. You know I'm saying like I ain't, I ain't here to we suppose I'm not here to teach. If you learn from me, that just means you a great student. You understand I'm saying like I'm not really here to teach you.
Speaker 5:You know I'm saying like, but I'm always here to learn from you, though, like you do what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying you fucking around be teaching me something while I'm teaching you something, but the whole time we here as students, you do what I'm saying, like I'm not really here to teach. I don't really. You know what I mean. That's not. That's not the moment I take my mind off of learning. I'm. You know what I mean. I feel like if you're not learning and growing, you're dying. Information is key. You know what I'm saying. So the moment I say like, oh no, I'm right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:We're supposed to seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so that's my joint, bro.
Speaker 2:They say you don't want to be the smartest in the room. You know what I mean. I mean you're around a bunch of dumb niggas Go ahead, call us.
Speaker 2:They say one in five US adults experience mental illness each year. Only 47.2% of us adults with mental illness receive treatment. One in 20 US adults experience serious mental illness each year. Only 65% of US adults seriously receive treatment. One in six US youth have mental health conditions but only have received treatment probably 50%. So I mean, it's a lifeline out there for us to hit up If you ever experience mental illness or if you have somebody that's experienced suicidal thoughts. 988-suicide and there's a Christ line out there too. I'm going to get the number. I'm gonna get the number for everybody but, what's your advice?
Speaker 2:my advice is also to be able to, um, speak out, be able to, uh, reach out to a family member, a friend that you're comfortable talking to about your problems. Um, I mean seriously, not joking, but somebody that you could really sit down with and talk to and they'll really soak in your thoughts of what you got going on and they could probably put you in the right direction. That could be anybody. They don't got to be an old friend. That could be somebody you met today, if they're a good person. Sometimes that shit hard. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:You don't know that I can trust bro to tell him how I'm feeling.
Speaker 5:Like.
Speaker 4:I might be feeling fucked up but bro might look at me like what the fuck wrong with you?
Speaker 5:Like you know what I mean, what the fuck you talking about?
Speaker 4:Like you understand what I'm saying. Like my, you know what I mean. Again, shout out my brother. Manny. He took his own life 2019.
Speaker 2:Sorry to hear that man.
Speaker 4:So you know, but I reacted sometimes like that with him, not even necessarily that he was coming to talk to me. Like yo bro, I've been feeling like this. I know what you're talking about, maybe he didn't feel like he could do it. But then when shit started going cray and I'm like what the fuck is going on, and you know what I'm saying it was really probably him not feeling like he could even talk to me. That's a that we like this, like you understand what I'm saying like, yeah, so you know, I don't know that's that's.
Speaker 2:It's a hard job so definitely you know what's so crazy.
Speaker 4:Speak to your folks talk to your friends.
Speaker 2:You know what's so crazy. I told one of my friends I'm like yo, you come to me crying once. I don't want to hear that again, right, but that's crazy, though. Like I really take that back. I really like take that back now. Like after talking to a few people, like that's like and that's probably trauma on me. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:No, no, that's learned, bro, that's learned behavior to be hard to like you know, what I mean Because that it takes some of that for survival.
Speaker 2:Right, you know what I'm saying and I'm in survival mode so I'm like yo stop all that bitch shit. You know what I'm?
Speaker 4:saying you not wrong. You just in survival mode. You not in the mode where you able to receive what you know, what I'm saying you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:So, like.
Speaker 4:No, it's, you know what I'm saying. Like cause, Like some people be like. Man fuck that Nigga always. I don't wanna hear that shit, right? You know what I'm saying? Exactly like niggas.
Speaker 2:Yo, he keep on crying about this shit. Y'all you really gotta listen to your folks, man.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna state my eyes and shit All y'all Jones is on point. Like you feel me, but I think I got like two, three things. First thing Is like A today's time, john, like and I'ma look at whatever camera like Number one, don't Gain or Add on top of your insecurities Just because you looking At what other people got on the internet these rappers these uh talk about these, these sports players, these, these media influencers, because I just was watching some shit yesterday.
Speaker 3:I don't know if y'all courtney taylor, whatever, she in jail for the rest of her life, but she was a famous, whatever you know. Behind the scenes she abused drugs, treated people like this and that and wound up stabbing her boyfriend to death and all types of shit. But what I'm basically saying is I was one of them. Feel me, imagine if you was rapping since you was 13, 14, right, and then you, now you 18, 17, and you see a motherfucker like nba young boy get popping at 16 or chief keith, and now you looking at day life, saying I deserve that life, I'm better than him, I should have that girl, I should have that car. It's a sickness that mentality is sick.
Speaker 3:Yeah look, and now you, you gaining insecurities, or adding insecurities to your list, because everybody insecure about something. But the problem is in this generation, when y'all was coming up, dipset and GU, autumn was winning, but you couldn't go on something every day and see their life and watch it and really screw and everything that you seeing is motherfuckers flunting and shit. You went in life.
Speaker 2:So now they insecure. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Now they insecure. You already chubby you. They don't need insecurities. You already chubby, you already don't get a lot of girls. You already don't rap like the next person or can't be a personality like that person. So don't gain insecurities or add on top of them Just because you seeing what other people got Cause. I'ma keep it real with you, right them seeing people be miserable Is fuck and you will never know. It's like you said Everybody got insecurity, everybody got problems.
Speaker 4:Everybody got that shit. You can't look at other motherfuckers and to be honest.
Speaker 3:They say when you rich and successful, the shit quadruple. So that's one of them, right?
Speaker 4:That's a heavy joint.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4:And before you go Into the next joint, I feel like another thing Is like People Mistake, like when somebody Is in a good position and niggas flex Right. Like nigga, cause a nigga, be like man. Y'all niggas ain't shit this and the third Nig, but that's just like a way for a nigga to, like you know, congratulate himself he talking his shit. You know what I mean he living in his light. You understand what I'm saying Exactly. So he got the right to say whatever to make himself feel good or make himself feel validated.
Speaker 1:But, motherfuckers. Be personally attacked. By a nigga living in his life.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean, like when a nigga shining you can't like you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You can't be like.
Speaker 4:Letting a nigga Niggas that see somebody flexing they be like man. I don't like this nigga, no more.
Speaker 1:No bullshit, bro Like, why not Like bro Doing whatever the hell he doing? I want you to dump down your personality so they can shop. Exactly that's what I'm saying you might have.
Speaker 2:And I ain't even talking about Just financially, like you might be doing better, like In life period.
Speaker 4:Got people you could call on that motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Probably don't got nobody, he could call you probably got a wife at home, kids Like you doing good Family wise.
Speaker 4:You looking at this guy Flexing him you got, you got Hold on man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I'm unlimited to two, cause I Y'all know me, bro, I start talking all fucking day.
Speaker 5:So I'm unlimited to two.
Speaker 3:The first one was the, you know the Insecurities.
Speaker 1:Right, right right.
Speaker 3:The second one Is self care, and this is for you know, lena L said it I'll just love me, I love all of me from saying like, change their diet, get your nails, pedicure your feet. You mean make sure, I mean clean yourself. Well, always have a clean space. Before you do for everybody else and you send this person this money and let this person sit on your couch and sleep on your couch, or before you make sure everybody else good, make sure yourself good for real, because you can't even love other people if you don't love yourself let me get some horns on that, you feel me, how could?
Speaker 3:these girls out here be claiming they in love with this dude and these dudes in love with this women. When, when you, when you go in these fucking house and look like this, or when you really talk to these people, they feel like that you feel what I'm saying. Lena l, I'm working three sides of myself. Yeah, the one that's trying to help everybody crying out for help, that's another. Lena l. John, you feel me like, like I said, music is therapeutic to me, but that's why I'm dropping this, this shit. Like you feel me. Uh, mac miller dropped a song called Self Care. Self Care, I'm treating me right. And then the next week he passed away Like soon as he was trying to get on his little Child, mac Miller.
Speaker 3:Child, mac Miller. Rest in peace. But Self Care For real. I know a lot of motherfuckers out here who just worrying about what everybody else around them feeling like or doing or trying to do or is doing before you even worry about yourself. Be glad that you woke up, be glad you got a roof over your head. You feel me? Change your diet for you. Don't worry about what bro doing. Don't worry about your girl can't do this right and she ain't doing that right. So it affects you more than it even affect the things about yourself you feel what I'm saying, no doubt, but yeah, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm Mariah Lee in the building man, Make sure y'all share, like, subscribe comment man Don't use a fucking hate a lot and hit that notification bell.
Speaker 1:Because it's free, let's go All right and hit that notification bell. Cause it's free, let's go Alright. On Real of the Most, we play a little game. It's called Fast Track. It ain't nothing that you Gotta really think too much about. You pick one or the other Right, being as though you one of the Hottest rappers in the world. We gonna, we gonna throw some rappers In the mix. Okay, alright, so we gonna set this all right. Beans or Gilly Beans. Hoove or Nas Hoove, redman, method man or Onyx.
Speaker 4:Redman Method man.
Speaker 1:Damn KRS-One or Cool G Rap, cool G Rap.
Speaker 4:Damn, that's a hard one.
Speaker 3:I was about to say you tweaking.
Speaker 4:But no, that's the influence it's personal. He had influence on everybody, but the Cool G Rap influence.
Speaker 2:Cool G Rap was the hustler slash. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:My pop had that on every day.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 4:I went to school with that on.
Speaker 1:Scarface or Too Short. Scarface or Too Short Scarface. Okay, that was Scarface, you done no.
Speaker 2:One more.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do movies. I'm trying to think at the top real fast.
Speaker 2:Some real lyrical shit. I'm going to think some movies bro, fast Some real lyrical shit, I think some movies bro.
Speaker 3:Give me my crazy John White.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. I don't want to go too fast. You want to give him one and then come back to me.
Speaker 3:Jeezy or Tip Jeezy. All right, gz, gz, all right, dr Dre. Or Pharrell, dr Dre, dr Dre, all right. G-unit or Dipset G-Unit.
Speaker 4:Okay. More impact on my life. I feel like.
Speaker 3:Me personally.
Speaker 4:Fab or currency, hmm, I'm a I'm. Dan, that's crazy fab though, but I'm I love that's crazy that's not, I wouldn't even fucking put them in cuz. Yeah, I gotta choose fab. I'm a lyrical rapper, like I understand what's going on Conway the Machine or 38 Special.
Speaker 2:Ooh, hmm, Um. Ooh, he just killed that.
Speaker 4:I think I'm going to go Special. Yeah, I'm going to go Special, I got to go Special. It's crazy, because I do fuck with Conway.
Speaker 3:I'm the best rapper right now. Nobody fucks 38 Spetsch. I fuck with Conway.
Speaker 4:Shout out to Conway, I think I got to go with Spetsch because I've heard more. Me personally, I listen to more Spetsch. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But I definitely listen to Conway too, though Jada Kiss.
Speaker 4:Ain't no way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like, damn, we should've used Somebody else for kiss. Kiss, though, i'ma go with somebody else, cause that's a, that's a.
Speaker 4:That's another one that, like, influenced my style of rap. You could go Kiss or Mac, you could go either way.
Speaker 2:I gotta go, kiss I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:Alright, I'm from Philly, though, so I'ma go Mac For Philly, but I feel like, if I'm not being biased, Kiss Then.
Speaker 5:I gotta kiss.
Speaker 3:Because, I'm more Leaf or tour Leaf, oh god.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I Again, it's a personal influence you understand, we got. We got folks.
Speaker 1:Brizzy and Nasty.
Speaker 4:You like doing that Brizzy and Nasty. I think it's crazy. I've heard more of Nas T work. I feel like I've heard a lot of Brizzy. You know what I mean. I got heat from both of them. You understand what I'm saying, but I feel like I think I listen to a lot more songs with Nas T work in it so. I don't know. I think I don't know.
Speaker 1:That's hard for me to choose. I don't like that one. I don't know.
Speaker 4:That's hard, that's hard for me to choose. I don't like that one.
Speaker 1:Blackthorpe or Common Blackthorpe? Blackthorpe, no doubt, no, even take the personal out. You already know he's gonna move. Shout out on, though, take the personal out.
Speaker 4:Blackthorpe one of the best ever, I feel like.
Speaker 5:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:He's at a level that you try to get to.
Speaker 1:That's why it's so special we talking about being in a room, you understand.
Speaker 4:That's not just a room.
Speaker 5:Just because there's celebrities in there, I wasn't just in a celebrity cypher with different celebrities.
Speaker 3:I was in a cypher with me.
Speaker 2:I don't understand how we not going to do that right now.
Speaker 4:Go ahead, kourt.
Speaker 2:Yeah who we doing, bro Pay the fool or belly Pay the fool. Let me see Menace to society, or what's that? Boys in the hood yeah, boys in the hood. Boys in the hood Damn. Menace to society. Was that shit? It is, though, but I watch Boys in the Hood Boys in the Hood Damn, mr Soddy. Was that shit it?
Speaker 4:is, though, but I watched Boys in the Hood way more. Like growing up, Boys in the Hood was on repeat. You know what I mean, so I don't know, you know cheese on them, cheeseburgers.
Speaker 1:Take us out, Corey.
Speaker 2:Man, it's the really the most podcast what you want? To go there, you in school.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:I was just going to ask fresh. I was about to say, bro, and I'm Merrilee.
Speaker 3:Yeah, go ahead, bro you can go Like see if y'all judging a rapper right or y'all comparing, whatever. What do y'all go off? Like if you was to talk to me about a rapper and why they this and that what would you base it off?
Speaker 5:It just wasn't songs or performance.
Speaker 3:Like say, if I was?
Speaker 4:doing.
Speaker 3:Kendrick Lamar the best. Because of this. What would you base it off?
Speaker 4:Listen at the core of music because I feel like we try to classify, we try to give it. You know what I mean put it in different you feel what I'm saying but for real, for at the core of music, what it is is how you feel when you heard it. That's the, that's the, that's the common denominator between all music. It's like that shit made you feel some kind of way. So that's what I look for.
Speaker 5:How did I feel?
Speaker 4:when I heard that Kendrick, when I heard him, you understand what I'm saying. I don't know, maybe I'm biased, maybe I just now niggas feel like I'm biased because it just made me feel a different way. You know what I mean when I so that all right.
Speaker 2:So look right what kiss song.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just I'm just saying period anybody. It could be any song, anybody. That's what I'm saying, right? Whoever we comparing it to our judges y'all, everybody in here had jobs before right.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:All right. So look, right. If you go to a job interview right, or you just meet a person on the street right, if you're trying to persuade them about something, or you want to get a part of something, or just have somebody thinking a certain way about you when it comes to certain things, you pull out a resume right, and then they read the resume of everything you've done right, done right. And then there's other people that got resumes and yours are better, theirs are better. They literally go from resume to resume to resume to see who qualify the most right, right, so, right. So we talking about rappers.
Speaker 2:Right, there you go.
Speaker 3:You wanted to go there Go ahead If we talking about rappers, right, uh huh, this better than that, that better than that. We're not going to Base it off catalogs Like albums and mixtapes, I mean yeah.
Speaker 4:But sometimes it can be relative. When you comparing relative.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. Listen though when you comparing is literally nothing else.
Speaker 3:I never said nothing about numbers, that stats. What I'm saying is, if we bring up Jeezy and TI, no bro, pink Patron was better than this. No, that song, this album, what that's a classic, that's catalog.
Speaker 4:It's relative, but it's all subjective. That's how you so, y'all.
Speaker 2:Here we go. Yeah, yeah, you might.
Speaker 4:I'm just saying what else is it? And you might, we might be like no nigga, you bugging Like why? How do you even like that? Because of songs.
Speaker 3:Yo Tip got this song. Yo you tripping when this album we not saying what Jeezy flow better, that's later, when you first put it on the table. It's catalog versus catalog, what's catalogs, though we counting numbers. Albums Mi versus catalog. What's catalogs, though?
Speaker 2:we count albums, mixtapes, numbers. That's not numbers, bro, we gotta be talking about we'll make it a catalog. Then what the numbers don't talk about you be like yo.
Speaker 5:That joint went platinum good kid, because if it didn't go, platinum.
Speaker 2:It's not a good good kid mad city.
Speaker 3:Bro. Every album in the 90s good kid mad Mad City sold more than that. I'm not saying Good Kid is better than Illmatic because of the numbers.
Speaker 4:No, bro, you misunderstanding what I'm saying about numbers. No, bro, because it's not even that bro.
Speaker 3:It's not that you base everything on the numbers. It's not that, bro. That's not what we mean.
Speaker 4:That's not what we mean. That's not what we mean. All right, bro. So how would you judge what's better or not?
Speaker 3:Bro, and that's what I'm trying to tell you. We got to break it down.
Speaker 4:All right, I'm about to break it down Because if we went through they first albums, jeezy and Tip let's just use them as an example common and black thought bro, listen to me, bro, that's what we talking
Speaker 3:about look, that's all I'm saying. I don't know if people know what the word mean when I say catalog, but I'm specifically talking about a person catalog, bro. When people say kanye is the best, the very next thing they say is his catalog is flawless People who really know about hip hop. If I'm talking to you about a rapper being better than another rapper, the way the person better is from better songs, better albums, better list of catalog, bro. That's what I'm saying, that's. I'm breaking it down. Like, if I think that kendrick lamar got a better catalog than nas or jay-z or that makes him the better rapper, bro, he put out better music, he put out so a better mix, better albums.
Speaker 2:So what makes the catalog, though albums?
Speaker 3:mixtapes. That what, bro? They just good, it don't gotta be the fucking numbers, that's what I'm saying they're just classics. They're just good, but that's still. But that's still how you would feel. No, no, no listen.
Speaker 4:This is what we saying bro. So when we say Ill Manic, Listen bro listen listen, listen bro, listen, listen, listen. It's either numbers or it's subjective. It's either numbers or it's subjective, bro.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:so I'm saying so you're either talking about the numbers, I'm going off numbers, so what are you talking about? That could be an opinion. You're saying all right, so it's subjective.
Speaker 3:I'm saying Y'all are saying stats numbers, but no what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:So what we're saying is. What you're saying, bro, is subjective.
Speaker 1:Everybody might not feel that way yeah that's everybody different, bro.
Speaker 2:Just because you feel that way, that don't mean that he thinks Nas is or Illmatic is the greatest record alive.
Speaker 1:Then we'll be going.
Speaker 2:But hold, hold, hold.
Speaker 4:Listen, listen, listen, cash. You know there's people out here that don't like rap at all right. You know there's people out here that don't fuck with rap. They don't think that shit is good right do that make them wrong? No, it's subjective, right, it's how they feel. But what I'm yeah, but this is what you might feel like illmatic is the best ever.
Speaker 3:I might be like you're fucking right and listen what I'm saying either one of us is wrong we living in 2024, bro, where you could walk up to a girl and call her him and pronouns and all that shit, bro niggas is trying to be so. So on point, niggas. Ain't even making sense, bro, if I say something about a rapper, bro, and we comparing rappers, we comparing singers, whatever bro, it's not about the numbers.
Speaker 3:It's not about how they video was shot, it's about catalog. Song for song, album for album, tape for tape. A catalog, bro. If you say that's just my opinion, cool, I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing relative. No, I'm telling y'all what a catalog means is the body of work, not numbers, not opinions, nothing, it's the body of work. How'd you base in two rappers against each other and talk about anything but a catalog? But we out. He look like he tired of us talking about it. We out, though.
Speaker 2:I'm burnt out. Hey, mayor Ali, is there anything you want to leave our listeners with man?
Speaker 4:Yeah, man Hot Street coming in August. Man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Make sure y'all get there, man we're the most podcast, man Y'all already know, man, Make sure that y'all already know man.
Speaker 4:Appreciate that Y'all already know Shout out, Westside man Shout out everybody that support me.
Speaker 2:man Shout out my bros, I appreciate y'all having me here. Look, man, after this conversation, man, we talk.
Speaker 4:I'll be back man, so me and Cash can finish talking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got to. We got to man. It's going to be a part two. I ain't tired, bro. It ain't Listen man, it's the Rilla the Moose. Listen man, it's the Rilla the Moose podcast man, we out, man, we out. My name, rilla.
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