Macab at Midnight
E24: Challenges, Chills, and Bigfoot Thrills
Curious about real-life encounters with Bigfoot? Dive into Alyssa's personal stories, featuring eerie sightings by her brother and others that will send chills down your spine. Imagine a white, bipedal creature lurking near a pond or strange growls echoing through the woods as you sit by a cabin. These firsthand accounts, combined with recorded sightings in Washington state, add new layers to the Bigfoot legend. The episode delves into the possibility of Bigfoot being a prehistoric primate whose habitat is being threatened by environmental changes, making you rethink what might be hiding in the dense forests.
But that's not all—prepare for a thrilling discussion on government secrecy and cryptids. Alyssa and Lindsay explore claims from an anonymous insider about Sasquatch autopsies at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, sparking debates on cover-ups and the authenticity of famous Bigfoot footage. With tantalizing comparisons between Bigfoot, the Yeti, and Australia's Yowie, this episode weaves a rich tapestry of mystery and intrigue. Whether you're a seasoned cryptid enthusiast or a curious newcomer, you'll find yourself captivated by the tales and theories.
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Curious about real-life encounters with Bigfoot? Dive into Alyssa's personal stories, featuring eerie sightings by her brother and others that will send chills down your spine. Imagine a white, bipedal creature lurking near a pond or strange growls echoing through the woods as you sit by a cabin. These firsthand accounts, combined with recorded sightings in Washington state, add new layers to the Bigfoot legend. The episode delves into the possibility of Bigfoot being a prehistoric primate whose habitat is being threatened by environmental changes, making you rethink what might be hiding in the dense forests.
But that's not all—prepare for a thrilling discussion on government secrecy and cryptids. Alyssa and Lindsay explore claims from an anonymous insider about Sasquatch autopsies at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, sparking debates on cover-ups and the authenticity of famous Bigfoot footage. With tantalizing comparisons between Bigfoot, the Yeti, and Australia's Yowie, this episode weaves a rich tapestry of mystery and intrigue. Whether you're a seasoned cryptid enthusiast or a curious newcomer, you'll find yourself captivated by the tales and theories.
Songs in this Episode:
Music from #Uppbeat
https://uppbeat.io/t/the-wayward-hearts/how-come-that-blood
License code: CGBNWUDKWIFR8EOP
Music from #Uppbeat
https://uppbeat.io/t/apex-music/dangerous-science
License code: Y6VIPNQJYAHI9M5O
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Speaker 2:yeah, I see that it's a monkey no, it looks like a bear that's a monkey. No, that's a bear, that's a monkey whatever you say.
Speaker 2:Hello hauntlings. My name is Alyssa here with my ghoulishly gorgeous wife and co-host, lindsay. This is Macabre at Midnight, where we rate all things that sit on a scale starting with the adorably spooky and ending with the truly disturbing. On tonight's episode, we're going to be talking about the real OG, the big man in the woods and the tundra, and the G movie we're going to be talking about Bigfoot, bigfoot, sasquatch.
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Speaker 2:Thank you guys. You guys are awesome. I don't think we have anything else, even though it's been a really long couple of weeks, and so, without further ado, we're gonna talk about the original bigfoot. This this was requested by hindman r67 okay all right, so tell me about bigfoot before we get started. I do want to say I was hoping no one would ever request it well why you don't like the og cryptid.
Speaker 2:I don't really of all cryptids I don't really think he's a cryptid, I think he's a primate, I think he's like something between Neanderthal and human, like he's just too smart to really get discovered.
Speaker 1:You know that is funny. That is one of the theories that are floating around out there. Yeah, about him.
Speaker 2:So but yeah, let's, let's hear it, him or them, them, they, them yeah, I guess it would be them.
Speaker 1:So yeah let's hear it. Well, I'm interested. Do you have any stories personally encounters specifically with?
Speaker 2:Bigfoots? Personally no, but I know some people, uh-huh. So my brother is one of them and the only thing I can think is Bigfoot. But it was white in color, which is, you know, generally like in the Arctic region and we live in the Midwestern United States. But yeah, my mom lives, like out in the country. She's got a big plot of land and out behind it it's like some woods and they belong to the neighbors of let my, my stepdad go hunting back there, you know, and we're allowed, we were allowed to go out there.
Speaker 2:Well, after I moved out, my dog, my old Newfoundland Bowser. He was still at my mom's house for a while after I moved because I couldn't take him to my apartment and when he would get frustrated or mad he would go on a walk in the woods. And so one day he takes a walk in the woods, he takes her. He took bowser the dog. Yeah, bowser took my brother on a walk, yeah, in the woods, but after it takes bowser on a walk. And so there's like this pond back there, yeah, in the woods, yep, and they get closer to it. And he said he noticed something squatted down, okay, okay, and Bowser started growling. And when Bowser started growling, he was thinking it was an animal or something. I don't know. Just because I don't know what he thought it was, I just know he thought it was an animal, just because in that area there's not really any like white animals, it doesn't fit the camouflage of the area, right. Then he said when Bowser started growling, this thing stood up onto two feet and was like seven or eight feet tall.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, amster says he booked it and Bowser just stood there growling. He had to like yell at Bowser, bowser, let's go. And he booked it back to the house and Bowser finally stood there growling. He had to like yell at Bowser, bowser, let's go. And he booked it back to the house and Bowser finally went with him. And he says he doesn't know what it was. When he's talked to people I've always believed him because it freaked him out. You know, and you know how he is. He's very skeptical. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't really believe in likeids or even our haunted dolls. He was like Aliens.
Speaker 2:Yeah he doesn't believe in any of that. When we brought our haunted stuffed animals into the house he was like those aren't haunted, someone probably miked them. You probably brought spyware into the house. He's very, very skeptical, very logical, based in reality type person. So for him to be that freaked out by this, I believe him and he told me that people said to him for a while, like when he would tell people the story, whoa, it was a rabbit. He's like a rabbit is not eight feet tall, you know, yeah and uh. He also said that people suggested maybe it was a deer. Well, deer don't stand on two feet. He says this was on two feet, it was bipedal it was bipedal yeah, so, uh, that's one story.
Speaker 2:I have, um, another one. I guess this one is personal. So my stepdad's father, my grandfather, married into the family, also lives out that way, near my mom, okay, and he apparently has constantly told people that he's seen Bigfoot out there a few times. You know, this is something that he has kind of like before Hunter ever even saw that Like, he said this and he said that he has seen Bigfoot on his property. Well, he also has.
Speaker 2:He has a very big piece of property and his property is literally it's right next to a national park and so his property is very wooded and very like Secluded, isolated. Yeah, it's pretty secluded, it's pretty isolated and like you can just like go back there. Honestly, they'd be like good people to be like, hey, can I use your property to go camping on? You know he can hunt on his own property, it's a little, it's a natural little area, right. And so he says he's seen bigfoot on his property. One day my sister and I were out there and he and his wife each have their own little cabin, probably about the size of like a room, built out on the property.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we would go out and like sit by the fire pits of the cabins whenever we would go visit and we wouldn't like start a fire or anything because we'd be out there during the day, but we would just go sit and talk and like walk through the woods or whatever. Yeah, because I I love nature, like I'm a very nature oriented person, so I enjoy just going out there and just sitting. And my sister and I are sitting there one time and she says that she heard something growl out there before and I was like, oh, it's probably like a coyote or you, you know whatever. But coyotes aren't really confrontational creatures, generally not. No, they're pretty skittish. They don't really approach you unless they feel threatened.
Speaker 2:Right, and that's not really an area that has wolves. There's not really a lot of bears known to be in that area. They have a little bastard hound, but at the time they didn't. So we're sitting there and this is probably about 20 minutes after she told me that she had previously heard a growl, and we hear a growl very, very close to us. I don't know what it was. I've never heard a growl like that, so I don't know if Bigfoot growl.
Speaker 1:Um, I also don't know what the plural for bigfoot is big feet, big foots I don't know that bigfoot, just just the word bigfoot okay, well, I don't know if they growl sort of like how deer is just deer, I guess I don't know big feets no, that sounds silly.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so I would say that those are like the only two.
Speaker 1:So that's really interesting that you mentioned that. For one, what I have found is that most Bigfoot sightings are in the Pacific Northwest of the United States.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to lie. I thought Quebec was in Spain. I don't know what part of the United States that is. I failed geography. Don't even judge me. I'm a very smart person, okay, but geography ain't it. That's. I know.
Speaker 1:Antarctica is like south okay, quebec is in Canada and that's like north of New York and all of that. It's on the eastern side of Canada. Where's the south?
Speaker 1:west wait, southwestern united states, pacific northwest, so pacific northwest so we're talking um like oregon alaska, canada, washington state, yeah, oregon, california, those states gotcha, that's where it's most common um that bigfoot sightings happen really yeah mostly because there's a lot of uh isolated wooded yeah, forest I've been to oregon and washington I've never been on that side of the states. I mean, I've been to california, I've been in nevada, but those were deserts um california was not desert, no, but we were in the city in california so I we didn't really go up to the forested areas of California, you know.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to disagree with that but continue. I'm from over there so I'm a little nitpicky, but go on.
Speaker 1:Well, that would be more Northern California than it would be like Central or Southern California. Okay, that's fine so but yeah, that's where it's more most common that bigfoot sightings are to occur, uh, specifically in washington state. Specifically in washington state, just because that one is the heaviest as far as uh forested areas go um. So I did not know. Nothing came. Nothing came up in my research that they could exist in the Appalachian Mountains, which is, I guess, it's possible.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to lie, that's where I thought they were at, so apparently I didn't know as much about Bigfoot as I thought I did.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean the Appalachian Mountains are also forested mountains. It's less evergreen, though, along the Appalachian Mountains, unless you go further north, so that's interesting. But maybe there are some like isolated you know populations out here well, you know, if they are like, I think like a species.
Speaker 2:Yeah, climate change. If you believe in climate change which I'm literally in school for this stuff, so I will die on this hill but it's pushing different species to areas that they wouldn't generally live in. And if Bigfoot is a species and not encrypted, then why would it be affected any differently? You know what I mean? Yeah, that's true. Plus, there's invasive species.
Speaker 1:That's also true, but you mentioned the growlings and the noises that you were hearing. You said they were unique, like you've never heard those sounds before. Yes, so can you describe how the sounds sounded?
Speaker 2:What do you want me to growl? Was it like a grunt? Was it was? Yeah, I don't know. It was just a low, I would say like chewbacca, but more animalistic, I don't know how else to describe it. It was just, it didn't sound like I know what a dog growl sounds like. Yeah, I know what a bear growl sounds like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it wasn't okay now, I mentioned that the sightings are more common in the Pacific Northwest. That's because there's been recorded at least 800 sightings just to Washington state alone. Ooh, yeah, and that's like all over the state.
Speaker 2:How is it there are so many recordings of this guy and we have not proven him to be?
Speaker 1:see that's. That's one of the things that came up is like one of the big pieces of evidence that they have managed to find on bigfoot is sound, so sound and footprints. Those are the two biggest pieces of evidence that they have collected the only issue with footprints is those would be easy to fake that's another thing that you know.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people, a lot of skeptics out there who do say that well, you could just put on big shoes, you could just do this or that to like create those prints. But then in one of the documentaries I watched they actually had like a forensic anthropologist. He like uh, examines footprints, prints specifically, like that's what his expertise was and he was like going into detail about like how when you press down on your foot, when you lift up the curl of your foot, would cause dirt to come like kind of push back a little bit and smear into the print. He said, like when you're wearing a shoe or something like that, you can't replicate that I bet that guy has a foot fetish.
Speaker 2:Why would you choose feet Like that's weird. He really likes Bigfoot.
Speaker 1:So he was saying that, like he believes some of them could be fake, but he said that he believes that some of them are genuine. I don't think For that reason.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm sure that people fake them. Like I said, I'm not a skeptic of Bigfoot. I just don't think it's as paranormal as people believe it to be, you know what Going into this?
Speaker 1:I was like, oh, bigfoot blah. You know like I'm not real big on cryptids myself I love cryptids. I just think Bigfoot's boring. But after like listening to a lot of this, I'm like maybe this is real, maybe this exists.
Speaker 2:It is real.
Speaker 1:It does. Maybe it is real, it does exist, but it's a monkey, we have it well, yeah, that's. One of the theories out there is that this is a type of primate like in the like. You know we're related to primates like.
Speaker 2:That's our closest relative yeah, well, and there are so many species that are undiscovered there are so many different types.
Speaker 1:There's even a couple of them of them that have gone extinct in the last few thousand hundred thousand years, and they're like. Well, maybe this is a type of prehistoric primate that somehow survived and adapted to the climate changes.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, that would make sense. I mean that's what, what like crocodiles and alligators, or dinosaurs, yeah, chickens or T-Rexes.
Speaker 1:and I mean that's what, what like uh, crocodiles and alligators, or dinosaurs, yeah, chickens or t-rexes yeah, and you know, they have scientific proof that homo sapiens and like neanderthals, two different types of like humanoids, existed at the same time really.
Speaker 1:Yes, this feels more like I'm like in school yes, so they're like, there's, um, no reason why, like this couldn't exist at the same time as like a human, because if we all have basically the same ancestor, but we all like adapted and branched off in different ways, yeah, then a different subspecies could exist, right, maybe? Maybe it is a survivor from the prehistoric age?
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, there's one common ancestor. So, yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:But what's interesting is that there's a lot of stories from the natives along the Pacific Northwest coast that have stories about the Sasquatch. That's actually where that word came from. I can't pronounce the actual word that it was, but it basically is how Sasquatch became a word, so it's like their version of that. But they have all kinds of different stories about wild people who live in the forests and things, and I believe natives I do, yeah, and you know actually a lot of their stories and sightings throughout history have been kept kind of off the grid. They kind of don't talk about it openly to the public because it's like one of those things where Like the Wendigo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like where you feel like this is a special, like sacred kind of thing. We do not want to disturb this creature, so we're not going to talk about it. We're just going to let it live, basically Okay. They're just like they're not going to talk about it.
Speaker 2:We're just going to let it live, basically okay they're just like they're not going out of their way to find it or anything.
Speaker 1:No, they're just. It exists, it's part of their culture, it's part of their like, their stories and things, and that's that's just it. It's just like another animal that exists out in the wild. And that also actually led to another theory I found on Bigfoot. There's a lot of theories as to why after all this time we haven't had solid proof. He's too smart for us. A lot of people do say that they're very intelligent creatures.
Speaker 2:Well, so if he is a primate, look at how smart primates are. Yeah, I meanps chimps use sticks as tools to eat with, I mean gorillas will bring their babies to kids at the zoo, like through the glass.
Speaker 1:They'll be like, oh, like, look at my baby, you know they're very, very smart orangutans can recognize cell phones and things and, like I've seen videos where they're interested as to what the person was doing on their phone oh, like they're leaning in on the glass, like what are you? Doing. Let me see you know. Yeah, we could teach monkeys sign language and talk to them that way, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, they're very, very smart, so it would make sense to me that if it's a primate, it's very smart right, and especially if it's like more like evolved primate, then it's definitely going to be intelligent enough to know how to stay away oh yeah from people and civilizations if it wants to.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so this actually led into another theory that I found, one of the reasons why you know people will say well, you got footprints, we've got sounds, we've got countless numbers of sightings. You know apparently all over the us, but where are the bodies, where are the bones? Where are the hair symbols?
Speaker 2:hair samples especially. You think about it.
Speaker 1:A deer walks by a tree, right, you know you can collect the hair I did watch one documentary where a guy talked about how, when he was exploring the woods, he found a what looked to be like a nest I guess is the best way to describe it. It was the branches. The branches were all like broken and kind of weaved together to create almost like a bed. Okay, and they're like there's no way, like this is a natural thing, like trees do not fall this way. Like something made this.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're going to hate me because I'm gonna like challenge you a little bit. Okay, is there like humans can make lean-to's? And yeah, is there?
Speaker 1:any way, it was man-made I don't see the way you described it is like it wasn't like a lean-to, it wasn't like a structure no, yeah, it was a bed, but what I'm saying? Well, it was in the middle of like a remote part of the woods okay, but like people, like he was out there, so who's to say?
Speaker 1:someone didn't camp, that's true but he, he claimed to have found hair in the midst of this. Did he get it tested? Yes, and apparently it came back as being uh, definitively like some time of some type of prim, but none that were known. Okay, so it did not match any registered known classified animals.
Speaker 2:So allegedly we do have hair, allegedly, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, but as far as like bones and bodies go, the only explanation we have or I could find, as to why we don't have that is that because when things die in the forest, their bodies very much return to the earth. Animals pick it apart. Oh yeah, it's exposed to the elements, you know, so it decomposes pretty quickly. Oh yeah, so that's kind of the explanation as to why. Like well, this is why we haven't found any bodies, because it decomposes within a week or two. Right, you got to think remote forest. You're just going to search the entire forest for a body.
Speaker 2:Right, Well, and if they're intelligent, you know so like even cats and dogs will like go away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whenever they're going to die, when they're dying, you know what I mean. Who's to say that?
Speaker 2:they're not going to a comfortable place where they're not going to be bothered.
Speaker 1:Right, bothered, right. Who's to say that these things don't like crawl into caves when they're dying and just die there and we don't know because?
Speaker 2:why did you have to use the word crawl? That's sad.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know well, there's another theory as to why we haven't found any bodies, though they live in caves. No, oh, there is a theory out there that says that there could be a government cover-up.
Speaker 2:Okay, now you got me. Okay, yes.
Speaker 1:Similar to how they do with aliens. They're saying that the existence of Bigfoot coming public could be a national security threat. How? Because it would you know? It kind of touches on the laws of endangered animals. If these are intelligent, like do we, what do we do with them? What do we do with that? Knowledge, leave them alone Right, but you know how people are. They want to capitalize on that.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay. So like when you say endangered animals, you think that if it becomes like public, they're saying people will try and find it.
Speaker 1:I will try to find them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:People will Hunt them. People will fight to give them rights like endangered animal rights Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure I don't see how that's a problem, but go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'm sure their homes, their you know everything would be invaded. They would be snatched up like experiments and put on display. You know all these things.
Speaker 2:And especially if they walk that line of like human intelligence. Oh, definitely.
Speaker 1:Definitely so. They're like this could be a national security threat. So that theory kind of runs with the idea that the government has maybe encountered some of these things on the wild, taken their bodies and done the research on them enough to know their habits and things to kind of keep everything under wraps underground, and they say it's better that Bigfoot stays a legend, okay, because it's better that people aren't out there with guns, nets, whatever, looking for this thing. Can you imagine trying?
Speaker 2:to catch a Bigfoot with a fucking net. Well, you don't know. I mean, I know You'd look like a 1950s cartoon, like dog catcher or some shit that's what I know, or like setting traps for it, you know, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whatever you got to do.
Speaker 2:That's something, though, like there are bear traps and they haven't caught. I guess if he's intelligent, no.
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Speaker 1:So there was somebody who came forward. He was anonymous. He didn't say what government agency he worked for. This is in one of the documentaries that I watched about this. Okay, they encountered at least four adult individual Sasquatch and had to take them out. They had to do that for national security. I don't know if they were too close to city limits, I don't know what the deal was with their, but the story goes is that after that happened, the bodies of these things were taken, they were transported to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and they did autopsies there on him. Okay, and that's as much information as he gave about it. Boo, so it's basically like the government probably knows about him, has information about them, but they're not releasing that to the public.
Speaker 2:Someone had like a sniper dot on the back of his head, and that's why he didn't tell us about the autopsy findings.
Speaker 1:Right, because he didn't want to know Like I want to know more about these things what was.
Speaker 2:I reading Like I want to know more about these things. What was I reading? I read something the other day that was like, when you join these organizations like top secret information, even if you leave, you have to like keep it to yourself for 10 years or something, and that's why, like stuff can still come out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But it doesn't come out until much, much, much later oh yeah, that's always how it works with the military.
Speaker 1:They wait several, sometimes a few different, like a few decades, before they release. It needs to be irrelevant Exactly and with how often this is, I don't know if that information will ever be released.
Speaker 2:Right, unless they go extinct or something, I guess. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know If they're prehistoric and they survive this long, will they go extinct? We don't even know how many there are. We do know, and now you mentioned that it's all white one. Yeah, there is some knowledge saying that they come in different colors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's because of the areas, right.
Speaker 1:It can be camouflaged, but just like people, they can have different hair colors, they can have different features. They're individual, they're very individual, the way people are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So they're all similar but they're all different. Okay, so that's why you hear stories of some people seeing them and they're like brown. Well, this person saw one of them was jet black.
Speaker 2:Okay, I've never like, I always thought that I've never heard that there were jet black ones, first of all. Second of all, I always just thought that the primary like they were primarily like, reset colored, yeah, you know, and that, like all of the, the white ones lived in the arctic yes, there are stories of, like you said, white ones, specifically like up in the himalayans.
Speaker 1:they're referred to as yeti over there right in asia. I didn't look too deeply on them yet Yet. Oh, I had to plan. Like Bigfoot here, okay, but there's also Yeti and I want to know, like, if Yeti are any different than Bigfoot. I mean, obviously they live in snowy mountains, but they have to be a little different right If they live in the snowy mountain terrains? Do they live in caves? Do?
Speaker 2:they, but maybe like different, in the way that, like there are baboons, you know, and, and like, I think, africa, I think I might be wrong but then you have like those arctic baboons that like, uh, stay that they're in asia somewhere. They like stay in the hot, hot ponds.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm talking about, but they're both a type of baboon right, yeah, so like same species but different, obviously, if you live in the, if they live in the higher peaks of the himalayans and they gotta have thicker fur for colder temperatures, oh, yeah, for sure, or something you know, but what I did find about the yeti is just like with bigfoot, the himalayans they have found footprints okay, so can we like?
Speaker 2:I know we're not done, but I'm just curious can we expect this to be a two potter?
Speaker 1:um, yeah, I would be interested to look into not just yeti and like yeti sightings, but also there are some in australia apparently, oh, really austria. They call them them the Yowie down in Australia, I think is the term. Okay, I didn't get any information on that. I don't know what they look like in Australia. According to Australia I'm not sure if they live in the forest part or like the desert, so that's something else to look into. So probably next week I'll look into Yeti and Yowie and we'll talk about them next week. Ok, because I am curious as to how they differ from the North American Bigfoot, right? Ok, because there has to be, you know, some minor differences, but like oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 1:At the end of the day, like are they all part of the same like species? You know like the day, like are they all the part of the same, like species, you know, like just different variations, sort of like there's different variations of whales, killer whales right, something you know they're still whales, but they're a little different, right?
Speaker 1:so, anyways, back to north america. Uh, we were talking about the government conspiracies, the cover-up, yes, um, so I'm not sure, like, how real the government cover cover-up idea is. Uh, it's very possible, but I don't know. I'm more for, like, this could be a prehistoric survivor right, and they're intelligent enough to not want to be around humans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't want to be around humans either.
Speaker 1:Okay, and you know your sightings, or at least your sighting very much coincides with every other sighting story I'd listen to. Does it really yes. So the most commonalities I've found in these sighting stories usually it happens in the woods, always in the woods, right Okay. Exciting stories usually it happens in the woods, yeah, always in the woods, right okay. Now the people who see them uh, they always come across them when they're crouched down are you serious, serious, oh my god, I think I saw sasquatch a lot of the stories say that they they see this animal peeking at them.
Speaker 2:our dogs are being very loud right now. If you can hear them on the mics, we apologize. Cheddar is over here having a coughing fit. Gypsy's making a nest like a mini foot, okay. Okay, I think we're done. That bothers me, Like it could have eaten him and my dog usually.
Speaker 1:Usually it's watching them, like observing through the brush, through the trees, you know, like keeping a distance but watching, and then, uh, whenever the person like, acknowledges them or like they say in some of the sightings, they say well, we locked eyes yeah, I've heard that a lot yeah, and when that happens, that's, that's when it stands up.
Speaker 2:Yes, he says he never said that they locked eyes, but he did say like there was just so much hair he couldn't tell what it was you know, yes, there was so much hair. Yes, and he also said you know what? It was white, but its camouflage must have been working, because he said he didn't notice it. He says he was very close to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like he walked out into the clearing. He walked through the trees and he was very, very close to it. Like I'm going to say, like maybe with where? Say that they got close enough to where it was, like they were on the other side of like a riverbank or a sandbar and could see it in the tree line. Yeah, so maybe several feet away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did say, though, that like he did not see it until he like came through, and the only reason he recognized it is because the dog started growling.
Speaker 1:He like came through, and the only reason he recognized it is because the dog started growling. So the story with the sightings go is that, yes, they're always crouched when, uh, they're first spotted, um, they're always watching, and then, when they're noticed, that's when they stand up that is so scary.
Speaker 2:Like listen, I've always thought bigfoot was dumb, but now that we're like talking about this and the similarities with my brother's encounter, I thought that Bigfoot was dumb enough. I never researched it, okay, like I didn't know that the crouching thing was a thing. I had no idea. And I don't think he knows either, because he's not really like I said, he's skeptical, he doesn't even look into this stuff, right, and so it's kind of you're tripping me out.
Speaker 1:I'm like my brother and my dog could have been Bigfoot poop that day okay, like once they stand up, they all reach about between like 8 to 10 feet tall. They're covered in hair. Everyone says they're covered in hair from their heads to their feet. Some people said that they did see fingers. Their fingers are hairless. They said that they have like a definitive brow line, but it's very high up, like higher than a human's. They got a five head problem. Their eyes sit a little higher up on their faces than it does for a human. Okay, their mouths are like wide, like they've got wide jaws, wide heads, but their lips are very thin.
Speaker 2:That's kind of gross. I don't like that.
Speaker 1:And then the eyes usually are described to be very dark, like almost completely all black or just dark brown.
Speaker 2:I have heard that they are also very human. The eyes are very, also very human the eyes are very, very human. Well, I have heard people say that, like they, they were intelligent. Like, looking at them in the eyes, it was like looking into human eyes yes, and some of the encounters that I heard.
Speaker 1:They mentioned kind of trying to communicate with the bigfoot. Why would you do that? Um, one guy said that he was like a cowherder or something and he would sing to his cows. And so when he saw this Bigfoot he started singing and I guess the Bigfoot was listening to him sing and then, when he was done, it stood up and walked away.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they're gentle, because I don't hear about attacks. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean, the closest I've heard to an attack is that somebody was chased out of an area like out of the yeah, but if someone walked into my house, right? You know you're like hey man, this is my land, get out of here, right?
Speaker 2:but like if they're just observing and like I've heard about them walking away. Yeah, maybe not gentle, but just not aggressive.
Speaker 1:A lot of the sightings that I've heard is always the Bigfoot watching, but like never being too close to interact, it's almost like they're curious about us.
Speaker 2:I was going to say they're probably just as curious about us as we are them.
Speaker 1:But you know, smart enough to not want to. It's like watching like a like, you see, like a wild animal and you're like.
Speaker 2:I want to observe this, but I know not to get you know like seeing a bear, for instance.
Speaker 1:You you'll watch a bear, like do bear stuff, but you don't want to go over and try to pet that bear unless you're an idiot.
Speaker 2:I'm talking to all you people taking pictures with, like, the bison at yosemite and whatever going up to freaking leopard seals thinking they're gonna be not gonna bite your arm off trying to feed freaking animals at the zoo, thinking that they're like house cats yeah, and then you freaking lose your arm, right, you dumb, dumb. Yeah, you deserve to lose your arm.
Speaker 1:If you're gonna stick it into a exhibit at the zoo, okay, like come on, so maybe, so maybe the bigfoot does view us sort of like, you know, like a bear, like, oh, this is, this thing is interesting, but it could be dangerous, but it could hurt me yeah so I'm gonna keep my distance that makes sense which would also kind of coincide with the reason why it's so hard to find them, because they're smart enough to know to avoid us.
Speaker 1:Right, like just like we know, when you see a mama bear or two little baby bears, you're like I'm getting the fuck out of here. Mama bears around the corner.
Speaker 2:OK, ok, very interesting. I actually got chills. I didn't expect to be this interested in Bigfoot. You're right, there's more to it.
Speaker 1:It is. I was, like you know, when I first got the, when we first got the request for Bigfoot, I was like oh boy, like here we go. Yeah, I made her take it.
Speaker 2:I didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1:But like looking into it, I was like you know what? This is actually pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like we have a friend who when we started the podcast she got really excited and she was like we got to go to here, like we're going Bigfoot hunting, and I was like yeah, yay. But now I'm about to like reach out and be like hey, you want to go Bigfoot hunting?
Speaker 1:Like hey yo, if we're ever in California again, maybe we go take a hike in the woods.
Speaker 2:Well, she was saying there's a place that she knows about in Kentucky. Oh really, when sightings?
Speaker 1:are common, okay, well, yeah, like you said, you know, these encounters both happened here around here, like on the edge of Kentucky, Right, you know? So it's possible they could exist over here too, right? Maybe we'll see some next week.
Speaker 2:What are we doing next week when we're in?
Speaker 1:the mountains.
Speaker 2:No, I week. What are we? What are we doing next week when we're in the mountains? No, I hope not. I don't want to see jack.
Speaker 1:The only thing I want to see is a hot tub and a bottle of wine do you want to hear some of the sounds they make, though, just to see if it kind of matches up, yeah, yeah, yeah um, now, when I listen to the sounds, they did have a language expert kind of like analyzing it like like oh, hold on like a, like a human language okay and they said um, based on what they were hearing, they're like first of all, they, they think there's more than one okay but they live like individuals, like humans do right but they were listening to it and they're like they're talking to each other there are consistencies in the.
Speaker 2:There are consistencies in the sounds.
Speaker 1:There's consistencies in the sounds that they're making and the tones that they're using. They're like this is a language but we don't know it.
Speaker 2:Obviously I hate that. That's kind of I don't know how to feel about this, because I'm really conflicted, because you're raised to believe that Bigfoot's like a monster or a cryptid, but like, logically it just seems like a, a primate. You know what I mean. So so I'm very like conflicted on how to feel about this. I was going to say that sounded like talking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, someone's recording it.
Speaker 2:Well, not him, not the he's talking. Oh, the sounds.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, someone's recording it. Well, not him not the he's talking.
Speaker 4:Oh, the sounds, yeah, yeah, I know they sound like monkeys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, but it sounds like they're talking to each other, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does. No, we heard a growl Like it was not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there are, there are. I mean I'm sure they do probably make threatening sounds too. Oh yeah, like get the fuck out of my house, right, but those were just some of the sounds that, like some of the sounds that I heard.
Speaker 2:They definitely sound like monkeys, for sure, At first they sounded like howling, Like some sort of dog or something Like. If I was in the woods and I heard that, I would have thought that that was a dog you know, and if I'm in the woods in America somewhere and I hear monkeys, I'm getting the fuck out of there because, like, we're not really known to have monkeys unless they escape the zoo, right because monkeys are not native to the North America. No.
Speaker 1:So the fact that you would be out in the woods, you know, and hearing these sounds you'd be like, oh well, I guess it's Bigfoot.
Speaker 2:Right, Is there a zoo nearby? Because if there's not, get the camera. I mean I guess if there's a zoo nearby, get the camera anyway, and you know there's been a lot of people like.
Speaker 1:You've seen the famous clips of the. I'm sure you've seen the famous clip of the the bigfoot sighting of the the bigfoot walk-in out in the field, the, the hoax, yeah well, actually, uh, it was a film made by two like a couple of film directors in the in 1967 oh, it was a film.
Speaker 1:I thought it was a hoax. So they were out there filming and they happened to stop off at like a riverbank, a sandbar out there in the wilderness and one of them was filming, I guess you know. And then they happened to capture that famous, those famous images of the blurry, you know Bigfoot kind of walking and receding into the forest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know Bigfoot kind of walking and receding into the forest. Yeah, there have been tons and tons of experts who have gone over that footage and kind of picked it apart, being like is this a hoax? Like could it be a person?
Speaker 2:I thought that someone came out and said that like they had worn a suit and gone out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, See, they tried to say that, but then forensic people got involved and then they were like its arms were too long. Oh, really, Because they described the Bigfoot arms to be double the length of ours. Right, yeah?
Speaker 2:Like primate arms yeah.
Speaker 1:Right and they're like, even if you wore a suit, the muscle doesn't match up. The way the arms would hang and move doesn't't match up. The muscle tone of the body Okay, it doesn't fit to like human standard sizes, so like there's. This is unexplainable. I like we don't know what this is.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I saw one on. So we watch. What is it called? What's that paranormal one? We watch all the time the normal insiders, the, the common camera. Oh yeah, paranormal common camera, that's the one, and you know some of the stuff that I see on there. I'm like, eh, you know, but I did see one. There was like bigfoot footage, um, in one episode and the guys were out hunting. They were like out in the middle of nowhere, yeah Okay, but they were in like desert terrain. That's interesting.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it looked like you remember the Nevada desert terrain, how it was very sagebrushy. Yeah, that's kind of what it looked like.
Speaker 1:So you're thinking like maybe Colorado-ish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe Nevada. So they're like driving through or they're walking, I'm sorry and he's like talking about the location. He's like this is way the fuck out there, okay, and he's got his camera and he zooms in because there's a dark mass up on the top of the mountain and there are a lot of mountains in that area and the thing is, some of these mountains are small enough that, like you can literally like we used to go, out, back out the side of walk up the side of yeah, we used to, you know, go up into the mountains all the time as kids.
Speaker 2:They're not, you think of like real steep mountains, rock climbing, like they're just rocky mountains, you know. And this thing, like actually now I think about it, I believe it was squatting and then it stands up and it's taller. I don't remember what was up at the top of it with it, but like it was, he stood up and he was taller than it. These guys left and they went back a few days later to see how tall that thing was, because they didn't want to mess with it because they're hunters, right. So they were like, having the mentality of this is like, oh, they were treating it like a wild animal you know, and they like left it alone.
Speaker 2:Well, they went back and the thing is it was upright, it was not a bear like the way it was standing it was shaped like a human.
Speaker 1:Like you know, bears can stand on their two feet, but they can only do it for a certain amount of time right.
Speaker 2:Well, and I mean they're obviously a bear, like their front legs don't hang like arms, do you know? Right? So they go up a couple of days later with the same camera and the freaking pole or I don't remember what it was, if it was like a pole or some rocks or whatever. They were like eight feet tall and this thing was taller, oh yeah, than them and it had been like crouched down behind and had like stood up and like stepped out and it it was very, very clear, and the guy was very freaked out, like when he saw he's like we got to get the out of here, let's go, leave it alone. We got to go. So and that's probably the most convincing Bigfoot footage I've ever seen Just because, like the way that the guy handled it, the way that he reacted, the location was he was like this is not a place that people just go to. You know, no one's going to go out there in a Bigfoot costume and like wait for someone to show up.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, I don't know Spooky stuff.
Speaker 2:Why would you rate Bigfoot? I'm actually like I came into this thinking I was going to rate it like adorably spooky, because I was like this is stupid. But I'm actually kind of thinking like I don't like that, Don't like that.
Speaker 1:Now, just because I've never experienced or had a sighting myself, I'm going to say that this is a that's scary.
Speaker 2:That's scary. It's like you're the damn aliens. What the hell? Well, I'm not like out of sight, out of mind, out of reality I'm like, I'm not.
Speaker 1:I'm not so much a skeptic on whether or not it exists anymore after looking into it, I just have never experienced it. So I don't know how I would feel if I was like chilling in the woods and I look over and see this giant thing. I'd probably be scared.
Speaker 2:Oh god not gonna lie, but just for. But I know you and I've seen you scared. Listen, let me just tell you what she does when she's scared. Okay, she does one of two things it's all or nothing. She either really panics to like the point that she can't function, or by the time it's over. You're like you didn't feel anything. She's like no, I was, I was terrified.
Speaker 1:And you're just like really I either I either am flight or freeze and nothing else but her freeze looks like she's just stoic. She's just like this is cool, this is fine I'm just internally panicking like, oh my god, what the fuck is that? What are we gonna do? Right?
Speaker 2:like there have been many times when I was just like you were scared. She's like no, I was freaking the fuck out. I'm like what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I probably would try to play it off as like, no, it's cool, just leave it alone. But on the inside I'd be like holy fucking God, what are we going to do?
Speaker 2:Mommy, do mommy I'd be booking it get the dogs, let's go like I. I go into uh, flight mode, either freeze or flight, like if I can't get out of something I go into freeze mode, but if I can, I run. I just grab whoever is closest to me and I start running. Like that has happened so many times concerts, mosh pits we're about to start. I just grab people and I start running out of the mosh pits, because I don't like mosh pits. I'm small. Something happens in the house. I just grab a dog, throw a dog at Lindsay and we run.
Speaker 1:I want to say in my smart brain I would be like it's an animal, so just be calm and it will be calm, yeah but it's smart. Yeah, that's where. That's where that's that's where it's different from like a bear. You see a bear and you're like okay, just don't move. This is like this thing is like waiting to see what you're gonna do, like, yeah, that's that's where the that's where the problem is.
Speaker 2:Okay, is that? It's intelligent, you know, and like I, you know humans. You've intruded in someone's house. Some people pull the gun out. So if these things, who's to say they don't act individually? That's true. Who's to say they're not? Going to take a freaking tree branch and stuff it up your butt and kebab you, you know, for being in its territory.
Speaker 1:That's true, if they look individual, if they can speak, you know to each other a certain way as individuals. Who's to say that they don't have individual personalities?
Speaker 2:Right, you got like Mrs Bigfoot down the road who's like come in and have some pine needle cobbler, and then you got Bobby Bigfoot down on the other side. That's like I'm gonna beat you over the head with a tree stump if you come around here. Did you look at me crossways?
Speaker 1:and fighting words.
Speaker 2:You look at me crossways. Yes, what the hell, lindsay. I have known you for almost a decade. I've never heard you say that you look at me crossways.
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