(0:00) Hello, Sherva. (0:02) Hello, how are you today? (0:03) I'm fine. (0:04) I love your shirt.(0:05) She's wearing a really lovely, flirty, sherry silk, pretty flowery shirt. (0:12) Hibiscus flowers. (0:14) That's why you love it.(0:15) Oh yeah, I didn't even realize it was hibiscus. (0:17) Yeah, it's very pretty. (0:18) Yes.(0:18) Yellow and blue and pink. (0:20) You can never have enough flowers. (0:22) Very summery.(0:22) In fact, I have flowers like totally overtaking my garden. (0:26) Yep, you sure do. (0:27) You saw them.(0:27) And I don't have any, well, I have very, very few flowers. (0:30) I have such limited space, I want to actually use my space for gardening. (0:34) Yeah.(0:35) But I do like, I love how the flowers look in between the vegetables and everything. (0:39) I love, I've come to love having flowers everywhere (0:42) because I'm cutting them and bringing them in the house. (0:46) Yeah, you brought me a lovely flower.(0:48) Yeah, yeah. (0:49) And I even have perennials out there in the midst of everything. (0:52) And this isn't an original idea.(0:55) I saw someone on YouTube who says this. (0:57) If you put these kinds of things in your garden, you know, (1:01) put a chair where you can sit down, put flowers and put some art out there, (1:05) you'll really enjoy being out there. (1:07) Yeah.(1:07) And you know what? (1:07) It's really true. (1:08) Except you still haven't put the chairs out there that I've been telling you to. (1:11) No, but I have some logs you can sit on.(1:15) Yes, I love those logs. (1:17) Yeah, they're growing on me. (1:19) But I have noticed it's really true.(1:21) While I'm out there cutting flowers and I'm deadheading and saving seeds, (1:26) I happen to look over. (1:28) Oh, there's a weed. (1:28) Let me pluck that.(1:29) Oh, there's a sucker. (1:30) Let me pull that off. (1:31) So it really does.(1:32) Oh, that needs some water. (1:33) It really gets you out in your garden. (1:35) Oh, yeah.(1:36) Once you're out there, you can keep finding things to do. (1:39) Right. (1:39) Like I'll go out there with my coffee in the morning and I'll sit down, (1:42) have a couple of sips of coffee, walk around the garden, (1:46) check everything out, come back, sit down, get up again.(1:49) Like I do that. (1:50) Like I'm sure my neighbors must think I'm crazy (1:52) because I walk out there and I look at the same things. (1:54) They're probably thinking she just looked at that five minutes ago.(1:57) But you do. (1:58) And like you say, you find things, you see things. (2:00) I see like some dried up leaves or like a dead one that I need to pull out.(2:04) Or like I have these viney things that just grows (2:08) and wraps around and strangles everything. (2:11) Morning glories. (2:11) I'm always pulling those out.(2:12) They're awful. (2:14) Yeah. (2:14) Everywhere.(2:14) So yeah, if I sat out there more, I would, you know, you're constantly doing something. (2:19) And you're seeing things that you wouldn't see. (2:21) Like if I just have on my mission to go water, (2:24) you know, or this or that, (2:25) I'm not like in the middle of it looking like I am when I'm, (2:30) like you said, just sitting and enjoying.(2:32) And yeah, there's something to that. (2:34) Like I worked in a grocery store for many years. (2:37) And one of the things you do is you walk your store.(2:40) So you, you know, your first thing you come in, (2:42) you check your email, you check sales and everything, check in with everybody. (2:46) You walk the whole store and you look and you see what needs to be done in what department, (2:51) you know, what needs to be refilled and stuff like that. (2:53) And you don't, that's not, you don't just walk it once for your shift and then you're gone.(2:58) You walk it over and over again and you see different things you didn't see before or (3:02) things change. (3:02) And that's what, that's how it is with my garden. (3:05) I'm like, I'm walking my garden.(3:06) That's why you use the term walk in your garden. (3:08) Oh, let's walk your garden. (3:09) I never thought about that.(3:11) It's unique that you say that. (3:12) I've never heard anybody say that. (3:14) Yeah.(3:14) Oh yeah. (3:15) Yeah. (3:16) Interesting.(3:16) I walk my garden and I walk it over and over again. (3:19) Yeah. (3:20) Yeah.(3:20) Well, you always find something and then I realize, oh my God, like this branch is falling (3:25) down. (3:26) This needs to be tied up. (3:27) The, the amount of things I saw that needed to be tied up are outer string and, and poles.(3:32) Actually yesterday I actually put a nail in the fence and then untied a piece of string (3:38) from one of the tomatoes and tied it around to hold it up. (3:42) My, they're all falling down. (3:44) Yeah.(3:44) They're so heavy. (3:45) The other thing about walking your garden is, um, yeah. (3:50) Last night I was out there and, you know, looked at everything, but then this morning (3:54) I went out and things had changed like overnight.(3:57) That's the thing. (3:58) And then later on, I went out with you and this, uh, one plant had fallen, that tomato (4:03) had fallen down. (4:04) I'm like, am I going to tie that? (4:05) It's going to break.(4:06) Right on the deck this morning. (4:07) Like I walked, I walked it twice and I didn't notice it. (4:11) And I'm sitting there and I just look, it's the one called granny throwing.(4:14) And I look over there and there's a branch with two tomatoes on it. (4:18) That's hanging off. (4:19) Like that pot is on a chair and it's hanging off the chair.(4:22) I'm like, Oh my God, I have to run and get something to hold it up. (4:25) It's like the tomatoes get bigger and bigger. (4:28) And then finally they reach that tipping point.(4:30) They're like, Nope, too heavy. (4:32) Plop. (4:32) Everything is just, and the thing is they're not even full size yet.(4:37) Right. (4:37) Yeah. (4:37) They're not in full size and they're all falling down already.(4:40) Yeah. (4:41) So. (4:41) Yeah.(4:42) The best thing for the garden is the gardener. (4:45) Yeah. (4:45) Is the presence of the gardener.(4:46) And I didn't say that myself. (4:48) Somebody else said that, but it's true. (4:50) So yeah.(4:51) Put things in your garden that you really enjoy. (4:54) And you'll be out there just, just to enjoy them. (4:57) Sometimes I just walk around out there to look at the flowers, you know? (5:00) So yeah.(5:01) When I come through the door, that's the first thing I have to do is go out there (5:04) and check, see what's going on. (5:05) Yeah. (5:06) When I get up in the morning, even though I was out last night, I get up in the morning.(5:09) Oh my God. (5:10) I wonder if that's ripe. (5:11) I wonder.(5:12) And especially some things like cucumbers. (5:14) Yeah. (5:14) Or squash.(5:16) Today it's too small. (5:17) Tomorrow it's too big. (5:19) Wait till summer gets, you know, once it gets going, that's what happens to the okra.(5:23) Oh. (5:23) Like you could pick okra this morning and then these look too small. (5:26) And by the evening it's big and you have to pick it before it gets hard.(5:30) Yeah. (5:30) I find my green beans are like that too. (5:32) I see them in the morning and they're not quite ready, but by evening they'll be ready.(5:35) So. (5:36) Yep. (5:37) So our taste test today, we have two cherry, did you say you had some varieties that we (5:43) could try? (5:44) But the ones we have, the ones we have today, these came from my garden.(5:49) We're going to try green bumblebee and one called hundreds and thousands. (5:54) Now bumblebee has a huge line. (5:56) I don't know.(5:57) There's probably about 10 bumblebees. (5:59) Could be more. (6:00) I've grown so far the purple bumblebee.(6:04) Last year I did sunrise bumblebee. (6:05) This year I'm doing green bumblebee. (6:08) I have seeds for pink bumblebee and I also have seeds for a black bumblebee, which is (6:14) there.(6:15) It's a hybrid. (6:17) It's not a hybrid. (6:17) I'm sorry.(6:18) It's a F1. (6:20) So it's not, it's not stable as yet. (6:24) I seeded three seeds, but I had so many tomatoes and cherry tomatoes just go crazy and go all (6:30) over the place.(6:31) So I gave my three seedlings away because two of them, I gave one to Karen, one to another (6:37) friend. (6:38) They live close enough for me where I could get to taste it. (6:41) You know, I don't have to grow it myself.(6:43) And a hundred thousands. (6:45) One of the things I learned about, I didn't even know about this is, what'd you call them? (6:52) Tomatoes like cascading tomatoes that you can put in hanging baskets. (6:55) This one is supposed to cascade.(6:57) It hasn't cascaded, but I do have it in a hanging basket. (7:00) Next year, I'm going to do a lot more. (7:02) I've got some cascading yellow, cascading red.(7:05) I forgot the names of the ones I have. (7:08) So next year I'm going to probably do about five or six in baskets. (7:11) And yeah, so right now we're going to try the hundred and thousands and see what Karen (7:16) just tried it.(7:17) What do you think it tastes like? (7:18) I like it. (7:19) It's not sweet. (7:20) I don't particularly care for sweet ones.(7:23) Yeah. (7:23) It's, I prefer the sweet ones. (7:25) I like it.(7:29) That has a little tang. (7:31) I like the tang. (7:32) I like the acidic.(7:35) Yeah. (7:36) I'll do like a nice acidic tomato. (7:38) Yeah.(7:38) You can have that of a bit. (7:39) That's not my favorite. (7:41) Now I really love the green bumblebee.(7:43) And, um, my son was over in the week and I was so excited about this. (7:48) I wanted him to try it. (7:49) He came to pick up.(7:50) Oh, I cooked him some, one of his favorite dishes. (7:52) So he came over and I'm like, Oh honey, try the green bumblebee. (7:57) And I'm like, it's so good.(7:59) And he's looking, chewing and he's like, it's okay. (8:02) I was like, what? (8:03) You don't like it. (8:04) And he said, it's okay.(8:06) He goes, it doesn't taste ripe. (8:07) It tastes like a green tomato. (8:09) I'm like, are you kidding me? (8:11) So then I gave him the fat frog, which I wasn't in love with.(8:14) Although I love the fat frog after it got really orange. (8:17) Um, at the master gardeners place. (8:20) Um, but yeah, he liked the fat frog better than this one.(8:23) What do you think of this one? (8:24) I like this one too, but it's not sweet. (8:26) I'm surprised you like it as much. (8:28) It's got a nice herbally taste.(8:31) Yeah. (8:31) I think this needed a little longer to ripen, but that was the ripest one I had. (8:36) And I wanted us to do it today.(8:37) It's not as acidic. (8:39) It's not as acidic. (8:41) It does get sweetened in that though.(8:42) Yeah. (8:43) That's definitely not sweet enough. (8:44) So you hold onto those two for a few days and when it gets more yellow, try it.(8:49) Okay. (8:50) Yeah. (8:50) That's definitely not the one I had.(8:52) Maybe that's how Ethan's one tasted. (8:55) Maybe. (8:56) Yeah.(8:56) Yeah. (8:56) Not as sweet. (8:57) Yeah.(8:58) But you can tell it's, it's, you know, it's mild. (9:00) It's not as acidic. (9:01) It's probably, you're right.(9:02) It probably is going to get sweeter. (9:03) The one I had was definitely sweeter. (9:05) All the bumble, all the bumble lines, all the bumbley bumblebee line.(9:09) Um, tastes really good. (9:11) There's a pink bumblebee. (9:12) There's, I was just telling them, there's a pink bumblebee, the black bumblebee, (9:16) the sunrise bumblebee, the purple bumblebee.(9:19) Um, and they're a nice size. (9:21) They almost look like grape tomatoes. (9:23) They're bigger than you.(9:24) I think they're bigger than grape tomatoes, don't you? (9:25) Yeah, they are, but they're shaped a little elongated. (9:28) Yeah. (9:28) They're a nice size.(9:29) That would be a mouthful. (9:30) I think if you tried to put that all in your mouth. (9:33) Right.(9:33) Okay. (9:34) So what I've got are the black cherry. (9:35) You've had those before and I've been growing these for years and I save the seeds and keep (9:40) growing them, but these are some of my favorites.(9:43) I did them, um, a few years in a row and I decided I wasn't going to do them this year (9:47) because they just didn't taste the last couple of years. (9:50) It didn't taste as good as they used to taste. (9:52) The one we picked at your master gardener place was so sweet.(9:56) It was delicious. (10:00) It's pretty good. (10:01) That's good.(10:02) It's not as good as the one at the master gardener place. (10:05) Was that a black cherry? (10:07) I picked a black cherry. (10:09) Oh.(10:09) I picked a black cherry and I picked the yellow. (10:11) Sweeter. (10:12) Yeah.(10:12) More ripe maybe. (10:14) Yeah. (10:15) That's a good cherry tomato though.(10:17) Yeah. (10:17) Yeah. (10:18) You're right.(10:19) And they don't, they're not quite as smoky as they could be. (10:22) Yeah. (10:24) But again, I think it could, it could have waited a few days.(10:29) I'm afraid to let them go too long out there. (10:31) So, but yeah, it could ripen a little more. (10:36) Yeah.(10:36) But it was good. (10:37) It was decent. (10:38) Yeah.(10:38) So we were talking, I know we do most of our, um, we talk about tomatoes most of the time, (10:43) but Karen and I are growing several different types of peppers as well. (10:47) So we are going to do a pepper taste in one of these episodes. (10:52) Or even a few, it depends on how quickly they come in.(10:56) And the sweet ones, we could do several, you know, at, on one episode, but the hot ones (11:02) after a while, you know, your mouth is burning and you can't really tell the difference. (11:06) So we probably can't do more than about two spicy ones. (11:10) I would say maybe three in our, um, in an episode, but, um, the sweet ones we could.(11:17) Yeah. (11:18) Coming soon to a podcast near you. (11:23) So, um, how are you dealing with the heat in this garden? (11:27) It's killing my garden.(11:28) Yeah. (11:28) I'm watching things yellowing and shriveling and even some of the leaves turning brown. (11:34) So I'm just, you know, trimming them off real quickly and watering a lot.(11:39) I'm watering a lot, but you know what I'm not doing that I should be doing? (11:43) I haven't mulched. (11:45) Yes. (11:46) Yeah.(11:46) And that's why I think I'm struggling with it. (11:50) A lot of my pots. (11:51) And I don't know, like what happens to the dirt? (11:53) Does it disappear? (11:54) Because I can see the roots on all of mine now on most of mine.(11:57) It sinks out the bottom. (11:59) You know, each time you water it, it'll. (12:01) Yeah.(12:01) Because I'm like, what's going on? (12:03) So most of my plants now I look down and I can see the roots. (12:08) Especially your fabric bags. (12:09) And the fabric pots.(12:10) Right. (12:10) Yeah. (12:11) Oh yeah.(12:12) It's like, it never used to look like this. (12:13) What's going on? (12:14) It just kind of, you know, goes out with the water. (12:17) Little bits and pieces here and there.(12:19) So when you're gardening, something that's definitely going to help you, (12:22) help you don't listen to me. (12:24) Do, do what's best and mulch heavily. (12:27) Yeah.(12:27) Um, your plants, because that helps to retain the moisture in your plants. (12:32) You know, it's just so hard for me to go and get stuff like that. (12:36) And, you know, I have a back issue.(12:37) So I don't want to worry about dragging stuff that's heavy. (12:41) So I'm just like, oh, just leave it. (12:42) I should have, um, so I had, for me, it was really easy because we had a tree (12:48) that had to come down and they ground it all up.(12:51) And I had a five foot by five foot by 10 foot pile of wood chips. (12:56) That's taken me two years to get through. (12:58) So I don't think wood chips are the best, but it's what I had.(13:02) And it was free. (13:03) So I have a whole, you know, couple inches of wood chips all over everything. (13:08) And I had to, the reason it's not the best is you do have to kind of pull (13:12) it away from your plants because it will.(13:14) Eat up the nitrogen. (13:16) Yeah. (13:16) And it's supposed, wouldn't, would it not soak up the moisture also? (13:20) No, not really.(13:21) I mean, it does, but it doesn't take it away from your plants. (13:25) Right. (13:26) Now I actually do have some wood chips up at that end by the grill because last year, (13:31) same thing, the men were, um, cutting a tree outside and chipping it up.(13:35) And I asked them to drop some in my backyard and they did. (13:38) And then the year before I had, I don't know if it was hay or straw, um. (13:44) Straw is better.(13:45) I don't know which one it was. (13:47) And it was sitting back there. (13:49) In my opinion.(13:50) Yeah. (13:50) So it's just kind of, um, deteriorated now. (13:55) So there's not much of it, but yeah, I should scoop something.(13:58) One of the things I'm always concerned about putting that on my soil is I reuse my soil. (14:04) And then I think you're going to have all that chip and stuff in there. (14:07) Right.(14:08) You have to brush it off and brush it away, which is kind of tedious sometimes. (14:12) Yeah. (14:13) Um, so mine, everything's covered with it, but then it just kind of falls away.(14:19) Cause my beds are just a little bit higher than the path. (14:22) So it just naturally, you know, falls away during the season and you have to pile it back up. (14:28) Um, but I do think it's, even that's worthwhile.(14:32) Cause I'm not watering as much as, you know, say you have to, I am watering. (14:37) I'm watering deeply still about every two days. (14:40) You don't water every day? (14:42) No.(14:42) Oh my God. (14:43) I absolutely have to water every day. (14:45) There's a difference.(14:46) And now every time I go out though, I stick my finger down into the soil an inch and it's still (14:52) wet or damp, but a lot of times I'll still water, you know, a little bit. (14:57) Yeah. (14:57) Like I water in the night around eight o'clock or something.(15:00) And in the morning, like you saw it just now, some of them look like they need watering again. (15:04) Yeah. (15:05) And I just watered them last night.(15:06) Yeah. (15:07) Maybe you could, um, even something, you know, freebie. (15:11) Um, I put leaf, I ran out of wood chips and, um.(15:15) Now leaf mulch is good. (15:17) I wouldn't mind that because I don't care if that breaks down into the soil. (15:20) Right.(15:20) Because that's only going to enrich your soil. (15:22) And it'll break down quicker. (15:22) Right.(15:23) That's the thing about the wood chips. (15:24) They do take, you know, a couple of years to break down. (15:27) But I've been using those for several years.(15:29) The first year in this garden here, I used the straw and straw breaks down real quickly. (15:35) That's why it's, I think my opinion, it's the best. (15:38) Yeah.(15:38) Um, but then after that, all I had was wood chips and I needed to get rid of those things. (15:43) What's the difference between straw and hay? (15:45) I know they say one of them has, um. (15:47) Hay has the seeds.(15:48) Yeah. (15:49) Yeah. (15:49) You don't want that, but you know what? (15:51) Every time I've gotten straw, it has seeds in it too.(15:54) Just not as many, but the thing is it's so easy to, you see it, uh, spring up. (15:59) You just pluck it and it's not a lot with hay. (16:02) It would be a lot.(16:03) But, um, it's so easy to just pluck the thing out. (16:06) No big deal. (16:07) So what's the bales they have at Halloween? (16:09) Is that straw or hay? (16:10) That's straw.(16:12) Usually. (16:13) Well, I, what I got was from Halloween, like a couple of years ago. (16:16) And did you get a lot of growth, a lot of little sprouts or not? (16:21) It's, I, it was dumped in my yard as one pile and it stayed there.(16:25) Oh, you didn't use it. (16:27) Oh, well, you know what? (16:28) If it's been in, if it's there and it's been rained on for several years, there's no seeds (16:33) in it because you wouldn't know. (16:34) Right.(16:35) I mean, I don't pay any attention to it. (16:36) You'd know if there were seeds in it because they would have sprouted. (16:39) Yeah.(16:39) Use it. (16:40) I should pick up some of that and put around my tomatoes. (16:43) Yeah.(16:43) And it'll, it'll break down, but still in the meantime, it will keep the moisture inside. (16:48) Yeah. (16:49) Yeah.(16:49) Yeah. (16:49) Anything you've got, except don't get, um, I think most people know this, but don't get (16:55) the landscaping kind of mulch because it's got a lot of, it's got dye in it. (16:59) That's just not good.(16:59) I do have, when I first moved there, I have a couple of bags, Boomer actually bought it (17:04) for me of, um, black mulch and you can see it's been dyed. (17:09) It's not natural. (17:10) So yeah.(17:11) Right. (17:12) So I haven't, I haven't used it. (17:14) Um, you could use that in the path.(17:16) It's like for me, I would put that in my paths. (17:18) It'd be fine. (17:19) Yeah.(17:19) So what I found with my tomatoes, like right now, all of my new flowers are dying from (17:26) the heat. (17:26) They're all falling off. (17:28) It's so disappointing.(17:29) I mean, I know it's going to be okay once it cools down, but it's going to be hot for (17:33) a while. (17:33) Next week is going to be a hundred degrees one day. (17:35) Right.(17:36) So yeah, all of my new, my new flowers are just falling off. (17:42) They get turned Brown and fall off. (17:43) I'm saying here, but it's cooler today.(17:45) And for the next few days, so they'll blossom again. (17:48) And then those will be the next crop of tomatoes. (17:51) It's just, you know, ebb and flow of the summer.(17:54) I've had to pull off quite a few of my tomatoes from blossom and raw. (17:59) And, um, so then like I have my Everett rusty heart right now, that one had, I've probably (18:07) had about six or eight tomatoes on there and I've had to pull them all off from, um, blossom (18:12) and raw. (18:12) I have one on there now and all the other, because the others that's come in lately, (18:17) they've all dried up and fallen off.(18:20) So you're going to hate me, but I've had zero blossom and rot. (18:23) I just pulled one off your thing that had blossomed. (18:26) And that was yours.(18:27) Oh, right. (18:29) That's right. (18:31) Let's compare what we do.(18:32) Maybe. (18:33) I don't know. (18:34) Yeah.(18:34) I, when I, when I planted mine, I put the baked ground eggshells. (18:40) Yeah. (18:41) I did that with the ones I planted here.(18:43) And, um, I'm trying to remember what else I, I think that's all I put in there. (18:49) See, when I planted mine at home and the ones I did here at your house, I put the eggshells, (18:54) I put blood meal, which is calcium. (18:57) I put, um, fertilizer.(19:00) The only thing I didn't do was water it with fish fertilizer. (19:04) Cause I didn't bring any of that here with me. (19:06) Um, yeah.(19:09) And after that, she's been taking care of them here. (19:11) So that was just what I did. (19:13) Well, now you shouldn't, when you plant something.(19:17) Yeah. (19:18) What I read is don't water it with fish emulsion right away. (19:21) Wait two weeks because when you've planted it, you inevitably have disturbed those roots (19:26) and maybe broken a few.(19:27) And so those raw edges, you can burn them. (19:30) So it's got me wondering, I wonder if you can do too much when you first plant. (19:35) Yeah.(19:35) Well, I didn't, I didn't do fish, um, emulsion here cause I didn't have it. (19:39) But you did. (19:39) But I do it at my house.(19:40) Yeah. (19:41) I water it regular first. (19:43) They say water it regular first and then put some fish emulsion.(19:47) Because if you water it with fish emulsion, it's like washing away. (19:51) It's just going straight down. (19:52) So, um, so yeah, I don't know.(19:56) Well, I don't know. (19:57) I, I haven't gotten it with every variety though, but I've had it with probably about (20:03) five varieties now. (20:05) Yeah.(20:05) We should take, keep it. (20:07) This is why it would be if you did what we said and not what we do. (20:11) Yeah.(20:11) Keeping a journal and writing these things down to maybe there are certain varieties (20:14) that are more prone or more acceptable. (20:17) They say definitely paste tomatoes are more prone to it, but, um, I've had it on my (20:24) Jerusalem, which is a paste. (20:26) I had it on, um, and I think I only had one on two on my big bull, big yellow bull one, (20:33) but I've had it on, um, what, what was, I have labeled Polaris, which clearly isn't (20:40) Polaris.(20:40) Now that one is a, is a heart shape one. (20:44) And that one had several on it. (20:46) Lucky cross is like a yellow red one that had a few on it.(20:51) Not many, but now that's loaded with tomatoes again. (20:54) And none of those came back with it. (20:56) Have you seen a difference between the ones in the grow bags and the ones in the ground (21:00) as far as blossom and rot? (21:03) Um, let me think.(21:05) I'm thinking because I have more in the grow bag than I do in the ground, but I, I found (21:13) blossom and rot on first mate one on first mate, which is in the ground. (21:19) And I think I pulled Abraham, but Abraham green is in a bag. (21:25) Yeah, definitely more in the bag than in the ground.(21:30) Yeah. (21:30) But last year I went to, um, my friend's house where we were actually at her uncle's (21:35) house because he has a big garden and a pool and she was there at the pool and all (21:39) of his tomatoes had blossom and rot and they were all in the ground, but he had mainly (21:43) paste tomatoes. (21:44) So, okay.(21:45) Yeah. (21:46) Interesting. (21:47) Yeah.(21:48) So I have six, uh, paste tomatoes and so far no blossom and rot. (21:53) Yeah. (21:55) But, uh, not a lot on them yet.(21:57) So we'll see. (21:58) No, I have more than that because you gave me some, the Jerusalem. (22:01) So I have eight.(22:02) Your Jerusalem. (22:04) That's actually what I'm going to look up. (22:05) Karen and I are both growing Jerusalem.(22:08) Mine is in a bag and hers is in the ground. (22:11) And, um, they're both meant to their paste tomatoes. (22:15) Now, Karen has like this ginormous massive thing and mine is small and mine is striped (22:22) and hers isn't.(22:23) So I was actually going to Google it to see, um, because I'm pretty sure that they're striped. (22:30) I think, um, I already had those seeds. (22:35) Didn't I? (22:35) Yeah.(22:36) Cause I gave it to you last year. (22:37) Okay. (22:38) Yeah.(22:38) But I gave you some of those, um, the ones I got from Ukraine and I didn't do any, you (22:43) had, I think queen of London, you had Jerusalem. (22:47) Yes. (22:47) And I saved seeds from that.(22:49) So the ones I'm growing this year are the seeds I saved from a plant that I grew from (22:53) the seeds that you gave me. (22:54) That sounds like a Dr. Seuss book. (22:55) Doesn't it? (22:56) Oh God.(22:57) You're not going to lie. (22:57) I'm not going to like this because they're not freaking striped. (23:02) You know, Cindy, this woman on our page, she's in the Philippines and she posted pictures (23:07) of a Jerusalem and it was huge and it was striped.(23:12) Well, you know how a lot of different varieties of things you, you know, you have so many (23:16) different brandy wines. (23:18) You and I have the same variety. (23:19) Yeah.(23:20) Right. (23:22) Mislabeled. (23:23) I could have mislabeled.(23:24) No, you had it. (23:25) Unless yours is a Amish paste and you accidentally, because it's huge and it isn't. (23:31) Yeah.(23:31) But the ones I'm looking at. (23:33) Except it's a heart shaped. (23:35) It's not, not shaped like the.(23:37) Well, these are not really. (23:39) Amish paste. (23:40) These are not really.(23:42) True, true. (23:44) I guess we'll find out. (23:46) Yeah.(23:48) Yeah. (23:49) This is a nice big one. (23:52) Yeah, it kind of, on one hand, it doesn't really matter, but it is a little frustrating (23:58) when you think you're getting one thing and you get another.(24:01) Yeah, I know, I know. (24:02) But you know, it's happening so much. (24:04) I belong to all of these gardening pages and everybody's saying it and everybody's (24:09) suffering with the blossom end rots as well.(24:12) Hmm. (24:13) It's the year, different year, different seasons. (24:19) Yeah, I don't know.(24:21) So, um, what else? (24:23) So yeah, extreme heat. (24:25) We're all dealing with it. (24:26) And, um.(24:28) I mean, what other tips do we have? (24:30) Now you can use some shade cloth. (24:32) Yes. (24:32) I've seen people do that.(24:34) Yeah. (24:34) I have, I used it on my lettuce and I was really glad I did. (24:40) Cause I had lettuce way into June and, um, finally that first 90 something degree day, (24:48) I pulled it all cause I knew it was going to bolt and I'm still eating it.(24:54) Um, well, actually last night I had a salad, the last of that lettuce. (24:59) I can't believe that. (25:00) I know.(25:00) So one of the things I noticed, um, last year was with certain varieties, they last forever (25:08) in the fridge, in the refrigerator. (25:10) So this has been in the refrigerator for four weeks, uh, even maybe even five weeks. (25:15) Yeah.(25:15) So, and I don't wash it. (25:17) I just put it right in the refrigerator in a bag and it just lasts and lasts. (25:20) Now, some of it was, was, you know, degraded, but, um, this last bunch.(25:25) So then I washed it and pulled out the, you know, the, um, brown icky pieces and I still (25:32) had some, so super excited about that. (25:35) Um, how long it lasted. (25:37) Yeah.(25:37) I have tons of, um, lettuce seeds, but I never grow it. (25:41) I always, I grow arugula for some reason. (25:43) I love arugula.(25:44) It's my favorite. (25:45) But I, I never did lettuce. (25:47) And Karen and I would, as we were walking her garden, I was saying that, you know, I (25:52) never do lettuce.(25:52) And I said, I don't have room. (25:54) And she said, well, why don't you put it in, in the beds that you put your tomatoes in? (25:58) Cause you don't put the tomatoes in until like May. (26:01) And so, yeah, next year I'm going to grow some lettuce.(26:04) And I'm saving seeds. (26:05) So I've got a ton. (26:06) Well, you already have some, but you can have a ton of mine.(26:09) In fact, I've narrowed down to my two favorite lettuces. (26:13) The winter lettuce that Treva gave me, it actually overwintered. (26:18) Um, and it, uh, it was, it was, it was really good.(26:22) Which one did she give you? (26:23) It just said winter, uh, winter lettuce. (26:26) Oh, okay. (26:26) Yeah.(26:27) And then the freckles, which is also my other favorite. (26:30) Your lettuces were really good in a sandwich. (26:32) Yeah.(26:33) You gave me two kinds of them. (26:34) The freckles was one of them. (26:35) That was what I gave you.(26:35) And it was good. (26:36) Yeah. (26:36) Well, the winter lettuce has this really beautiful red and green mix.(26:42) It's so pretty. (26:42) And then the freckles, of course, it looks like it has freckles on it. (26:46) Um, but I'm right now, I let several of them all go to seed.(26:49) I didn't need that many because honestly, one, one, um, lettuce plant, if you let it (26:56) go to seed, you'll get hundreds and hundreds of seeds and it just flowers. (27:00) And then they turn into this fuzz and then you, you let it dry and then you save the (27:03) seeds and there, there's just hundreds of flowers on it. (27:06) So I have about, um, 10 of them out there that I let grow.(27:11) And, and they're so easy to do that because they shoot way up into the, they're like 18 (27:16) inches tall. (27:17) And then you just keep peeling off the bottom leaves and you have this huge thick stalk (27:22) with flower, a few leaves and then flower, the flowers on the top, the pollinators love (27:26) them. (27:27) And then underneath you can plant all the other things that you want to plant.(27:32) So by the time the lettuce is done, like I have tomatoes on a tomato under there, by (27:36) the time the lettuces will be done, the tomato will be taking off. (27:39) So, um, really love to love lettuce. (27:43) You should definitely grow it.(27:44) Yeah. (27:45) Yeah. (27:45) And even if it, you know, you, it's not done and you have to put your tomatoes and just, (27:50) you know, pull it.(27:51) But the thing is I like, I want lettuce in the summer when I have my tomatoes and cucumbers, (27:57) when I'm making a salad, I want to have the, I don't really want lettuce in the winter (28:01) when I don't have homegrown tomatoes and cucumber. (28:04) Right. (28:05) You know, I want to, there were a lot of lettuces that were just what we call honeymoon salad.(28:10) Yeah. (28:10) You know what that is? (28:11) Lettuce alone. (28:11) Oh yeah.(28:12) See, and I, I'll, I'll use the lettuce if I'm making a sandwich, but I'm not going to (28:16) make a salad. (28:18) Um, you know, right. (28:20) Cause there's nothing else ready.(28:21) Same thing with cilantro. (28:23) By the time my peppers are done or tomatoes or anything that I want to use cilantro with, (28:29) it's gone. (28:30) I use cilantro year round.(28:31) But yeah, right. (28:32) But growing it, it's not there. (28:34) I'm not even going to try growing cilantro anymore.(28:37) My friend, um, starts me off some in a pot and it just doesn't grow. (28:42) It doesn't get any further. (28:44) And then it bolts.(28:45) Yeah. (28:46) But then you have coriander seeds. (28:48) So I'm saving those.(28:50) Oh yeah. (28:50) Because I actually want coriander seeds. (28:52) I love that.(28:53) I love the coriander seeds. (28:55) Oh, is it? (28:56) Okay. (28:57) I put it in Mexican food.(28:58) I grind it up and put it in. (29:00) And uh, yeah, I love it. (29:02) So, um, I started my, I started a few more fall things.(29:08) I started, um, well, I think I told you guys last week, I'd already started the Brussels sprouts. (29:14) So I started Brussels sprouts yesterday. (29:16) I started some more succession cucumbers because I planted two backup ones and one died.(29:21) Just, I don't know. (29:22) I put it in a pot and it just didn't take off. (29:24) One is climbing and already has baby cucumbers on it.(29:27) But the other one, I don't know. (29:28) It just shriveled up and didn't make it. (29:30) So I started four more.(29:31) This time I'm doing the China Jade. (29:33) I've never tried that one before. (29:35) And, um, I, I'm doing purple broccoli.(29:39) I started those and I also did, um, what'd you call it? (29:44) Clementine cauliflower this time. (29:46) So this one is a brighter yellow. (29:47) I did the flame one the last time.(29:50) And this one is going to be Clementine. (29:52) And, um, I think I already said last week, I'm going to do, um, bok choy and, um, bok choy.