Have you ever wondered how the echoes of your past can shape your future success? Join us as we sit down with Chip McAllister, whose journey from the challenging streets of South Central Los Angeles to the winner's podium of "The Amazing Race" truly encapsulates the American dream. In this heartfelt episode, we uncover the pivotal moments that can steer a life towards triumph, the importance of mentorship, and the power of resilience. Chip's remarkable transition from acting to real estate and back again after a lengthy hiatus serves as a testament to the idea that it's never too late to embrace the opportunities life throws your way.
Life's a complex dance between joy and adversity, and this conversation delves into the very heartbeat of that rhythm. Chip opens up about his 46 years of marriage, sharing the secret sauce to a lasting and loving partnership, and we both reflect on how the simple joys, like a game of pickleball, can become unexpected sources of happiness. We weave through the importance of steering clear from toxic relationships and fostering positive connections, discussing how these choices can profoundly impact our happiness and success. This episode isn't just about celebrating victories; it's a guide on maintaining happiness, even when the music slows down.
With Chip's wisdom guiding us, we tackle the nitty-gritty of life's practicalities, from the subtleties of finance in dating to the art of prioritizing what truly matters. We discuss the controversial art of letting a man pay on a date, and why sometimes a meal at Red Lobster can reveal more than the finest dining. This episode also pays homage to the giants who've paved our paths, with personal anecdotes about icons like Muhammad Ali and Jim Brown. So, whether you're looking for a formula for happiness, seeking to enrich your relationships, or just some straight talk on health and wellness, this episode promises a wealth of insights wrapped in the warmth of a conversation between old friends.
Have you ever wondered how the echoes of your past can shape your future success? Join us as we sit down with Chip McAllister, whose journey from the challenging streets of South Central Los Angeles to the winner's podium of "The Amazing Race" truly encapsulates the American dream. In this heartfelt episode, we uncover the pivotal moments that can steer a life towards triumph, the importance of mentorship, and the power of resilience. Chip's remarkable transition from acting to real estate and back again after a lengthy hiatus serves as a testament to the idea that it's never too late to embrace the opportunities life throws your way.
Life's a complex dance between joy and adversity, and this conversation delves into the very heartbeat of that rhythm. Chip opens up about his 46 years of marriage, sharing the secret sauce to a lasting and loving partnership, and we both reflect on how the simple joys, like a game of pickleball, can become unexpected sources of happiness. We weave through the importance of steering clear from toxic relationships and fostering positive connections, discussing how these choices can profoundly impact our happiness and success. This episode isn't just about celebrating victories; it's a guide on maintaining happiness, even when the music slows down.
With Chip's wisdom guiding us, we tackle the nitty-gritty of life's practicalities, from the subtleties of finance in dating to the art of prioritizing what truly matters. We discuss the controversial art of letting a man pay on a date, and why sometimes a meal at Red Lobster can reveal more than the finest dining. This episode also pays homage to the giants who've paved our paths, with personal anecdotes about icons like Muhammad Ali and Jim Brown. So, whether you're looking for a formula for happiness, seeking to enrich your relationships, or just some straight talk on health and wellness, this episode promises a wealth of insights wrapped in the warmth of a conversation between old friends.
Okay, welcome to another edition of the Journey to Freedom, and I'm just excited to be here today because we get to talk about some really cool stuff. And when I say cool stuff, it's not just, it's our lives, it's our ability to be able to take the lives that we've been giving. Look at other people's success and I say this many times when I talk to folks. I say success leads clues, and when we find those clues and we can duplicate the things we can do, we can have a better life. Chip's going to be my guest. I'm going to give him a chance to introduce himself. But one of the things I just got back from Alabama last week and one of the things that was enlightening to me in Alabama is to go to the Bryan Stevenson's Legacy Museum and be able to see where we've come from and see whether it was my grandfather, who I know came from slavery in Kentucky, or some of the signs that were there that were from my Native American heritage that I have. So I've been able to be able to see a lot of that and go, wait a minute. This all happened. And then I fast forward to some of the things that I've been able to do, some of the things I've been able to accomplish, the circles I've been able to drive in and find that there's folks who aren't able to do some of those things, and what separates me from some of those other folks that have been able to do stuff is that I've found mentors and people in my life that have walked me through some of those things, and, chip, you've been one of those folks who have allowed me to see what it is that I can do, where the sky is the limit, based on whatever the history is or whatever things happen in our life. And so I have Chip McAllister on today, excited to talk to him. He's done.
Speaker 1:I'm going to let him just kind of introduce some of the things. I met him when he was an actor and doing a ton of stuff in Hollywood and we did a whole bunch of stuff together and then I got to see him win the amazing race and then I've seen the amazing stuff he's been able to do with him and his wife Camyn, and this would be an example to me of what it takes to be successful. I know where he grew up in Los Angeles and the places that he did and what he's been able to accomplish over time and the houses he's been able to buy and the success he's had and the faith. Quite frankly, when we talk about our faith and talking about what it takes to live within the side of that is just a huge example. So thank you for being on the show today, chip. I sure appreciate you being here. I sure appreciate you. I've just taken the time out for us to talk about what we can do to help other black men be successful in life.
Speaker 2:Well, brian, as you know, we've been knowing each other long enough. You know that's something that's very near and dear to my heart. I went to high school here in South Central Los Angeles the best high school in the world I'm sorry whoever's listening, but Dorsey High School, best high school ever. And I am proud to say well, yeah, I'm going to say it. I just got inducted into the Dorsey High School Hall of Fame last year and it was a very proud moment for me. And if you're wondering why it's that, I'm still very active there, just giving back, putting on a lot of stuff there at Dorsey High School, a lot of programs for the kids and also, like Brian said, I was an actor back in the day.
Speaker 2:Probably still are right yeah yeah, yeah, brian, you may not know this, but I haven't done a commercial in 30 years, because you know, when I was an actor, I did a lot of commercials and the reason I stopped was because, when things got slow, my kids told me Daddy, we can't eat your dreams, you're going to have to get a job. So I went back and got my bachelor's degree.
Speaker 2:I went back and got my bachelor's degree and then I've been in corporate America and now I'm a real estate broker, have a large team and just very blessed with that. But, brian, last week I just shot a commercial man, a national commercial, because my love, which is pickleball, somebody saw a pickleball commercial advertisement or something like that and they said, chip, you should try out for this commercial. And I tried out, man, and I got it. And now I have a top Hollywood commercial agent, the Osbrink agency. So I'm back, baby. So everything is clicking, man, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Now I don't know if you remember this Chip. So when I was a PE teacher, when we first started talking and I got to know you, I was teaching pickleball and I tried to get you to play pickleball with me back in 1990, something. We were doing stuff and it was like no, tennis is the deal, and I'm teaching these kids how to play pickleball, we're playing in the gym, we're teaching, and so what we're seeing is this generation that we all taught pickleball back in the 90s are now adults and they're loving the sport. And then to hear you come full circle after I try to get you, you're like no, we got to play tennis.
Speaker 1:But, Brian, I'll tell you, man, I like no pickleball, but I love the fact that you're playing some pickleball now.
Speaker 2:Brian, I am obsessed with pickleball and I'll tell you I needed to listen to everything you said because you, as I just reminded you before the show started, you were the first one back in the day who introduced me to this thing called what was that called again, the internet? I'm like what? And you got me on Mosaic browser and I had my EDU email address and all this cryptic stuff you were talking. You got me on that and we together were coming up with what was to be known as eBay. We could have made millions of dollars, man. So I should have listened to you because to this day, I didn't remember. You told me about pickleball man. But I am obsessed. I play every day. Now, do you really all that?
Speaker 1:is so cool. I love it, love it. I loved it when I was teaching it. I loved it when it was. You know we would spend any time it rained. That was our excuse to come and do the gym and play pickleball, you know. So, every chance we got and I had a unit for three years when I was teaching PE that was just all pickleball. I used to school them, kids, all day long. I played pickleball four or five hours a day at one point. Oh my gosh Now.
Speaker 1:I got to get back into it now. I'm glad you know I'm a big fan of the commercial.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and it's for a national brand. I can't say which brand it is, but it's for a national brand. You see every day, it's a huge one, and you probably only see me. You blink, and if you blink too quick you won't see me. But hey, that doesn't matter, it all pays the same.
Speaker 1:Exactly you. You're in the commercial and that's all that matters, all that's so cool, so many kinds of social stories. So you talked about Dorsey High School and then you talk you know, I know, you got, you know, your first acting job, I think right out of either, right out of high school, right in what has happened. What is your life progressed as, and maybe from the perspective of you know, even being a, you know a, you know a black, I guess, child at one point. And then you know, now I'm a black man, I'm going to figure out how I'm going to make it in this world. What are some of the things that you did, or the things like that propelled your life so you can be successful as you've been able to be.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, so you have a five hour show, okay? No, brian man, I mean, it would take that long to even really scratch the surface. Being with my wife Kim, we've been together, happily together, for 46 years and she's my, like, my queen, my, you know, my best friend, my everything. We've done everything together and if you just even try to think about the hats we've worn, the professions we've had, it's too numerous to count and definitely to remember. So I'll just take little chops of it. I'll just say what I live by and what I don't let get interrupted at all, and that is that I fight vigilantly for my happiness, no matter what the situation. Vigilantly, I fight for my happiness because, I'll tell you, my finances band and that's the.
Speaker 2:You know, a lot of people get plagued with health issues or relationship issues. Mine has been financial issues. It's like a heartbeat brand. It's got millions, millions, boom, zero, zero, less than zero, zero, boom. It's like a heartbeat. That's exactly how, you know, my financial situation has been.
Speaker 2:But no matter what, people always are shocked and amazed when they learn what my destitution level, if you will, has been. Because I'm going to be happy, no matter what man, because I already know what God has promised me. I already know what my bright future is. I already know how rich in every way I am, even when my finances don't show it. My finances are lying when they're not showing it. But right now, brian, I'm going to tell you I'm living in a great time. Man, 2024 is starting out for Kim and me, where, right now, we're going to make more money in by the middle of oh, it's middle of February. So, yeah, more money probably coming up here right now, the checks coming in then we made in all of 2023 and half of 2022. And I already saw that it was going to happen.
Speaker 2:So that's what I would say to anybody man, whatever journey you're on, whatever you're going through, don't spend your life where you're miserable, thousands upon thousands of days because your goal hasn't been attained. No, I'm happy then, I'm happy now, and I don't even know if I'm happier now because my happiness when I was broke I'm still happy. I'm not eating as well, but I'm still happy, man. So I would tell especially brothers man, we got a lot of stuff that we have to overcome, but toxic people get them out of your life and no matter if you work with them, you don't have to give them that piece of you that's special. So I make certain that I surround myself with people who bring out the best in me and who give me the ability to bring out the best in them. So I know that didn't answer your question, but it gave you some kind of an answer.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it starts right. You've given me so many things to talk about right now, because one of the things I want to talk about you talked about associations and one of the things that I believe happens in our communities is we spend our time around so many toxic people. I don't want to give the barbershop as an example, because there's some really good barbershops, but somebody told me once if I spend more than 30 minutes in a barbershop, I'm going to end up in some toxic conversations that continue to happen and revolve how, over this time I mean, you say you're happy all the time how have you avoided or been able to identify some of those toxic relationships that you know we're going to? You know, maybe you didn't know them, but you know now we're some of those things that could lead you down that wrong path that I always go in with an open mind.
Speaker 2:I always go in in my. The way I live life is, whenever I go somewhere, my main objective is to make that place a better place because I was there. My second objective is to when I leave, it's no difference, you know, if I came or went. I don't like that one so much. But the one I do not accept is a situation where I go into and it's worse off because I was there. So I don't want to. I don't want to ever let that happen and I'm always shooting for the first one.
Speaker 2:And when I'm around people who, who don't feel me, or or if if I try to interject and I'm ignored, or if if somebody is caustic, or if it's somebody who just talks about like negative talk, like guys cheat you know what in the cheat on their wives, or guys who want to do drugs, or guys that are talking about things that I'm just not into, I just I love them. And if I say, hey, what's up, man, but can't be around you, man, I cannot spend my time around around toxic people or people who aren't wanting to make this world a better place or at least laugh and enjoy themselves and make certain that everybody else in the room is enjoying themselves. And oh, that's one thing I got to say. That's very important when I say I fight for my happiness, not just for myself. If I'm, I'm pretty much the guy.
Speaker 2:If I'm in a room and Brian, me and you are, just you know how we can laugh and shoot the breeze. But I see one of your buddies that you brought with you, man, he's over in the corner, kind of like checking the cell phone. I'll try to bring him into the fold. Man, I want everybody to you know enjoy life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I totally agree. Now when we say this, it helped me because you've been around some people. Happiness and toxic people are not just in some social economics. I think people think that just because somebody doesn't have money or doesn't have access to resources, that somehow they're toxic. And then people somehow that are wealthy, that are doing real well, you know, always got it together and can do stuff kind of just share with me a little bit about, can there be toxicness no matter what the socioeconomic level is?
Speaker 2:Right. Well, as I pretty much described earlier, you know me, if I am a base or if I abound, you know I'm going to fight for my happiness. So I know I'm not the only one in the world that feels that way. And then there are just, you know, some toxic people and the way I feel about that. My pastor told it to me and I live by this also and it's this brand. I can deal with, help, live with people with problems all day long. I just can't spend a minute with problem people.
Speaker 2:If you are a problem person that you always look in the fight, you always have to be right, you always have a chip on your shoulder. Man, I'll try to, we'll have the conversation to probably go like this you know, I'll say something that you know I think it's good, and then they'll say something you know back and then I'll say, well, and I'll try one more time, and then, no matter what they say, if they, if I detect that I got, I go. I never thought about it like that. And then I'll, and then I'm ahead a few more times and then I'm gone. You know, if, if, if a person is closed off, I feel you know in the Bible it says do not cast your pearls amongst swine. And not that I'm calling people pigs or that I have pearls, but the thing is is, if you're, if you don't want what I have, it's cool, we don't have to exist. I'm so good with me not having to be around you and you not having to be around me, because I have so many rich relationships where I have like-minded people who who love to see people flourish.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I'm thinking about this, but a good buddy of mine, tony Faulkner he just you know I'm a real estate broker, kim and I are really doing great now but a realtor friend of mine, he's a brother in Ors County. He just won realtor of the year and when he's, when I hear his name announced, I jump out of my chair, beat him on the chest as he's walking up. It is scares the crap out of him. But it's like man. I was so happy for this guy and still to this day, all of the people still talk about how man Chip. I never saw such genuine happiness for somebody else. But that's how I am man. I love to see people succeed.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely. That is so cool. One of the things that you know my pastor taught me at one point is hurting people, hurt people. You know whether you know, whatever the environment that they came from, the things that they do, and then they can become problem people, maybe not even knowing they are. What have you done? Or been around?
Speaker 1:Because, like I'm the same way, I don't want to hang around problem people but at the same time, I find people sometimes that, if they're willing to try to pull themselves out of that, how, how do you help people? Or how do you encourage people that you know they have this genuine I want to do better. You know I'm not talking about that person who could care less, like I just want to be evil and mean to people, but I'm not that guy who really wants to change. How do you help them grow and move out? Because I think that's a lot about what journey to freedom is about is how do we help the people who want this to be able to achieve this happiness and things that we're talking about here.
Speaker 2:Well, you hit the head, hit the nail on the head right there, brian, when when you said they want to, that, that desire, that inclination, I can deal with that person. I love dealing with that person if they are at the bottom of their lives and they have screwed up so much and even if they've, even, even if they've cheated me and stolen from me even, I'll even say that but they want to better themselves. I'm the guy for the job, I'm the guy for the time to be given, I'm the guy to help. But if you got that person yeah, man, you better, yeah, you'll butt on out of my face. You know I can't deal with that.
Speaker 2:So it is that attitude of wanting to be better man, because I was at a point where the only way I grew was by the relationships I had the mentors, the people who brought me up, and people. I listened to the people. I sat down and listened to the words that they said. And you know I'm going to tell you something about a mentor too. No mentor knows exactly how to tell you, how to get to where you want to get. No, you think. And no successful person Elon Musk, oprah Winfrey nobody knew two years before they started on their journey to be gazillionaires, they didn't know they were going to be that. When Oprah was getting turned down for news anchor jobs and stuff like that, she didn't know that. But everybody has to take a step, man, and surround themselves with people who they want to be like. And man I'm there for, and no matter where you are, I'm 66 years old.
Speaker 2:I've done a lot of stuff. I've played Muhammad Ali in the greatest and I travel with the Muhammad Ali, the greatest athlete of all times. I've traveled I traveled with him for three months shooting the greatest. I've won the amazing race. I've had a CBS TV series. I've married the most beautiful woman in the world. But guess what? I'm 66. And the best is yet to come. I don't just believe it. Like you know, ooh, there's something to say. It's the truth. I'm looking so forward to life, baby, and, and it just gets better.
Speaker 1:Oh, that is so cool. One of the things that I'd love to you know, just you just unpack for a little bit is we talk about our faith and, you know, both of us talk about our pastors and the people we've been around In those times. We've had some really good times and you've had some times that have been low times. How is faith and your journey in faith, you know, helped you through these processes or helped you through these times? You know we're going to get to relationships, but I just want to kind of find out first what, what, how has faith played this part in keeping you in this, in this pursuit of happiness or this happiness, you know, place that you've been able to take for so many years?
Speaker 2:Well, brian, it has. Faith has not helped me. Faith is the only thing. Yes, it's like it's not, it's not help, it is the thing it's. It's me seeing not looking at this snapshot of the the terrible way I am me seeing through faith, me realizing my full potential, me seeing it when my wife and I are seriously eating top ramen, when everybody else thinks we're doing great, me and the other thing, man, is my wife. She's there with me through, thick and thin man, we do, we do things together. She's not one of these who say, oh well, why can't we do this? And we're there together, man, we encourage each other. And we, man, we laugh, we, we, we have so much fun tearing up some sardines and crackers and doing those, those rough times, man, we have fun we laugh, we say.
Speaker 2:We say, man, look at us. We. I don't ever think we'd have to drink Kool-Aid again, but but but just so. Faith. So I wonder if you're going to faith. Faith was the thing.
Speaker 1:As you're going through. What are some things that you know? I think for black men, one of our biggest issues is just trusting ourselves and believing in ourselves and before we can start, you know, believing in somebody else. But how do we begin to treat others in a way that can help us not only love ourselves and trust ourselves but then have somebody who wants to be with us? Because I see so many black men that have these relationships and I think you talked about a little bit where you talked about, you know, maybe cheating or doing some of these other things you know with Kim and with your relationship. What have you done to make sure that that relationship just stays so pure, that stays whole? I mean because we all have arguments, we all have fights, but you found a way of how to treat Kim and how Tram Kim can treat you. That has gone for 46 years. What are some of those things that you could tell other folks? That would just be amazing.
Speaker 2:Well, brian, I'm glad you asked that question, because that is what I am concentrating on now, and when I say I, I mean Kim and I, because she's doing all the behind the scenes stuff. But she says, chip, forget you. You used to be an actor, you like to be on the camera, I don't like to be on the camera, so we used to do everything together. But now I'm doing it. But what I have now and it's on YouTube, facebook, tiktok and Instagram and even a little bit on Twitter it's called Chip's Tips and it is mainly talking to women right now on how to have rich relationships with men, and I'm starting off, brian spoon, feeding them ways that are attractive, that would make them attractive to men, and I'm slowly but surely letting them know what the situation is, because women nowadays don't fully realize the let's call it the game of life, the game of romantic life, because men have been forced into being really caustic towards women. Now, where men are especially with women talking about I'm a bad BI now and you know I don't need them, so men are saying, oh, okay, that's the way you want to play it. So it is very, very hard and difficult for a woman who wants a relationship, who wants a good man to even find one, because the good man, the man who would have been a quote unquote good man, has become so callous now because of the treatment that he's received from women out there.
Speaker 2:So I have so many great plans to speak with women, and then men, and then both, so it's going to come in kind of I'm going to have series on each of those, but I am very passionate towards relationships because, kim and me, the main thing that we've that has made us thrive is we learn. If you learn a few simple lessons, but the number one lesson is what do you get from being right? You know, everybody always wants to argue until they're right. If, brian, if you and I argue right now, you know about that time when you know you introduced me to the internet, you'll say shit, I didn't introduce you to the internet, I introduced you to something else. And then I'll go back I said and I know in my heart it was the internet. Even though I know, brian, I would say it about two times I say it was the internet.
Speaker 2:If you said no, it was, I said, dang man, it it probably. What do I get from being right? And if you lonely yeah, yeah, lonely.
Speaker 2:So that that's one of the things. And the other thing is Kim and I, we genuinely hate. Did you hear that hate? We hate to argue. We just don't even like it, man, and I think, I think that's a key component. But what are you going to do if you get up with a person who loves to argue? I guess I just didn't get one of those and she didn't get one of those, so we cut it off. Of course, ours might be loud and quick, Okay, so that's how our argument is mainly. You just go here. My point I'm out.
Speaker 2:So don't spend time arguing, Don't dwell in the negative, Don't spend time concentrating on the bad things about me. I'm not going to spend time concentrating on the bad things about my woman. I'm going to tell my woman baby, do you know when? You know I'm going to come home and we're talking all day, and you know I'm at a seminar and you've already asked me that, did I eat? And I told you no, it makes me feel so good when you have some dinner for me, baby. I like feel like a king when you do that. That's a better way to say what a brother feel like. You can't have no dinner ready for me. You knew I was hungry. There's two ways to talk to people.
Speaker 1:Amen, amen. I hear you. So you're doing Chips Tips now and you're talking to women. Does that now grow into talking to men as well? What is? Because there's just such a gap when I think about I was telling you earlier that I went through this trust seminar and I think one of the biggest gaps in our country is with black men black men to ourselves, black men to our black women, black men to our jobs, to our society there's this gap where trust isn't there. We have grown up learning how not to trust, and so how do we begin that trust process of we're not only trusting ourselves, but then, like you said, the way that women talk to us, the way that sometimes we talk to them, or our belief system in how do we find somebody good? What are some of those tips that are going to transform this relationship thing? Is it so vitally important for us to be able to grow and be successful?
Speaker 2:Well, brian, one of the videos that I just put out it was how to make wait. What was the title? It's the well. Anyways, how does a woman make herself her man's queen? And I let him know that Kim and I dated for seven years and we were married for about three or four years and she was my wife. I loved her. I've never loved anybody like I loved Kim. But I know the day she became my queen.
Speaker 2:I know the day, and that was the day when I was an actor, as we've established, and I came home and from you know, another audition I didn't get and I said baby, you know, I've been thinking I think I'm going to quit acting school for right now and put that on the back burner. And she looked at me and she said oh, baby, that is so great. I've been praying for that for two years and I'm so glad you made that decision. And I went. I was blown. I said what do you mean? What do you mean? You've been praying for her for two years, kim. Why didn't you tell me? Why did you tell me? And she went baby, I will never, ever take away your dream. That's a decision you have to make, man. Wow, after that, dude, you know, that's when, brand I went back I got my bachelor's degree at 30 years old. Have you ever heard of this school, brian Azusa Pacific?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know a couple of people who've been there, graduated from there, spent a little bit of time there.
Speaker 2:So that's how I'm a mother. But I did that. But for my woman we were doing so poorly that you know she was not knowing on me. She would not take my dream away when I wasn't probably putting, you know, food on the table. That's when you become a queen is when you're there for your man, and at that time. So that's the day my wife became a queen.
Speaker 1:Wow, that is so neat that you can hear that story, that, because how many times have you heard? Or you know people that you've been around with associated with where it's always gnawing and chewing and, you know, stopping somebody from achieving that, that dream, but at the same time letting them grow to the point where they can see those things around. That is so special. Are there any other things like what would you say to some of the men about you know, the way that they treat their wives and the way you know how can they bring them into you, know into their, into their dreams, into what the things that they want to do, the things that they want to achieve, if they're afraid that that that their, you know, their spouse or their partner is like, oh no, we're not going to, we're not going to go there, they're just going to shrink it down to this little, so they don't even bring it up, how can we start establishing that?
Speaker 2:Brian, I firmly feel that it is on the man to set that thermometer, set the temperature in his house. To agreement, to agreement. You have to. Even in anything you do, if you're going to a movie, if you're going to the gas station, you have to plan. It may not be this big, elaborate plan, but you have to say okay, why wouldn't it be stupid, brian, if you went to the gas station to get gas and then, oh, man, we needed some bread for the hamburger. So then you come home, then you go to the store to get the and then you say, oh, geez, man, I don't like hamburgers without cheese. Then you go get the cheese.
Speaker 2:Then what is? That's how people run their lives, man. They, they don't plan. So what? What Kim and I do is we just say we first, since our priority in life is God first, each other second, the kids. Third, our friends and family fourth. Then it gets all money, and maybe that's why I haven't kept money. I've had that up and down because you see how, still to this day, I'm not prioritizing my, my business and everything. God's going to take care of that. I've delegated that to him and I'm doing great by doing that.
Speaker 2:Now, you know, had to go through a lot. But you see, I, with that priority, god first, with Kim second, while we were raising our kids, they never pitted one of us against each other because you know they knew hey, man, I don't only love your mother differently than I love you, I love her more than I love you. And I don't see a lot of marriages like that, brian. I see all of these marriages where, especially the women, they love their kids more than they love their husband and the husband can feel that. I don't think, I don't think. And here's the thing, the women who I really have compassion and empathy and love and a sorrowful feeling for our women who are older, who never got married or divorced women. Because here's the thing, when you do get married to that man, though you've had that 15, 16, 18, 20 year relationship with your kids, if your marriage is going to work, your husband has to be above the kids at all times, husband or don't get married. So you know, that's just some tough stuff that I'm going to be relaying to people.
Speaker 2:Man, and the men, yeah, man, I just got to say I get, I get a lot of pushback from this one, brian, but I feel, listen to this if you're dating dating not going out as friends if you're dating a woman, you pay for the, at least the first meal. Man, how the heck are you going to be going Dutch? Or or what's that called Dutch? Or splitting the bill, man? So now, if you're friends, I can see that I'm the kind of person I say Lord, please, please, bless me with enough finance when I'm rolling, when my money's right, my boy, brian, couldn't pay. I pay. It's an honor to pay, but these I'm not going to call people name, but I sure feel like seeing what they are these who? Well, you know we're going to go Dutch on the first day. Come on, man.
Speaker 1:There's something about you know, and I love that you brought that up, because I think what, what? What some women don't realize in this is by not allowing me to pay, you're taking something away from me as a man, right? You're not allowing me to be the man that I need to become, that the person who could protect you and take care of you, and that shows you from the beginning. And if I'm that, if I'm that man who's saying no, I want you to pay half, you know, because they don't want, then now you've already, you've already shrunk yourself into this little hole where you were. That's been taken away from you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so, that's so true.
Speaker 1:That thing that God has given us that says this is who you are as a man, that I want you to be a godly man who can get something done that comes with paying for a meal that comes in. And if you're not allowed to do that, you're not allowed to walk around and open that car door. You're not allowed to, you know, to have those conversations where, hey, let me, let me be a man Then then you were just, I guess, a masculine I don't know what the word is that is used but you're taking that away from me to be able to do that. So if that means if all I can afford is Kentucky Fried Chicken or Burger King, then let's go to Burger King, Kentucky Fried Chicken. I'm not going to try to take you to the nicest restaurant, but at least I get a pay, At least I get to be a man, At least I get to grow right. I mean, am I wrong in thinking that and saying that?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, you're right and but I'm going to tell, I'm going to put a butt on that. I have seen, because I know some men out here if they're looking at it they said well, chip and Brian, you don't understand, you not out to here with these women nowadays, because I have seen these videos where a guy wait was taking a woman to not even Burger King or Kentucky Fried Chicken that you're talking about, took her to Red Lobster, you know, and she wouldn't get out the car. Um, you know, have you seen that Brian? Yeah, you got that woman, that woman as a matter of fact. As a matter of fact, no, I don't even want to say, but if I think out, if I was out there and I got wind of something like that, I think no, if I was a secret millionaire or multi-millionaire, I think I would take a woman to, you know, something like claim jumper or or, you know, red lobster at first, to see if she would act. A food like that, because I don't want anything like that in my life, you know next?
Speaker 1:next, absolutely, chip. What are the things I love for? We talked a lot about associations and finding good associations and that circle of friends that matters. What are? Maybe you can give us an example? And it's for different things, right?
Speaker 1:I have, I have a mentor that I look up to that is for relationships. I have a mentor that I look up that's for business. I have, you know, mentor that I look up that can help me with trust. So they're different people. Let me give us some examples of two or three people in your life that have been that mentor that you could look up to, that have given you some of that guidance. And then why? Why it was that you were able to latch on to those people and learn from them and humble yourself, right, because you know, as black men, sometimes we show up as if we we have to know everything and then we have to be able to achieve everything and and we can't look weak in any way what are some of those things? That are some of those people in your life and what did they do to help you move forward?
Speaker 2:Well, fortunately, when I was very young, as I said earlier, I played the young Muhammad Ali in the movie the Greatest. So my first mentor was who? I called him my mentor he called me as Prodigy was Muhammad Ali. You know that was. I could call him and get a lot of information from him. My second mentor was the late great, you know, last year, jim Brown, the great all American football player, and you know, kim and I had our wedding reception at his house and the book that he wrote about his life is dedicated to the Wallace family and, as Kim's family, that's her maiden name. So I had those two as my first mentors and that was amazing and I used to go up to Jim's house and just listen to him till two, three in the morning and it was amazing.
Speaker 2:But nowadays I have Dairy Stone is my mentor now and he has been for since the year 1999. And he is Tom Hicks, who owns the Houston Astros and so many other sports team. He is, tom Hicks is right hand man in Texas. I'm always able to call him about anything business related and the knowledge that he espouses to me is just crazy. And the thing that I love about him is he's just such a tremendous giver Like.
Speaker 2:For instance, he is such a mentor that in, or he's like one of the top ranking decision makers at Baylor University and he takes all of the ex Baylor, the Baylor athletes who have made it to the pros are either even all of the Baylor people who are there and they play basketball over his house and they're about 20 or 30 guys over there and he takes them all out to lunch afterwards and pays, and you know, and some of the people they can bring, their friends and everything they and this is an expensive restaurant he goes to and you know, just for me, seeing how somebody just wants to give back, it just means so much and that's all of my mentors have to have that.
Speaker 2:Ultimately, the reason they're doing what they do is not to make themselves bigger and not to, you know, see how much they can get, but to see how much they can give. And right now, one of my richest relationships, brian and you probably appreciate this is with my little brother, cory Newbauer, and it is where I'm his mentor, I'm his protege, he's my mentor, he's my protege and we help each other and we meet every, every first Thursday of every month, and it is powerful man. Where we come, we talk about relationships, we talk about business, and this is one of the richest ones I've had, because we've grown so much, because we throw ideas at each other at such a rapid pace.
Speaker 1:That is so helpful and growing in. So if I'm, you know, I'm watching this video and I'm saying, hey, I want to have some of these relationships, how do I seek those out? How do I find people that that I can have these relationships with that are better than the ones that I have, because the ones that I have aren't serving me, they're not growing. I'm kind of I feel like I'm stuck, you know, as a black man trying to figure out how do I make it in this world? How do I seek out those relationships? What do I do?
Speaker 2:That very simple answer to that and it's going to be so simple You're not going to believe it. You just see somebody. You, you wish your life would be like that. You don't ever want to be somebody. You know it's not, it's not about that. But if you saw yourself live in this life you'd be happy and ask them say man, could we talk? I could put it like this If we could develop a mentor, protege relationship, I love it. But can we at least talk something like that? And guess what? I've been turned down before. I was just talking with kill and somebody I got turned down by. It is the funniest I've been turned down ever was. You know, shortly after I did the, the greatest, playing Muhammad Ali, I'm at the Playboy Club and a whole bunch of celebrities are there and I meet one of my comedic idols, I meet Richard Pryor, and and I'm talking and we're hitting off and they should know. I say hey, rich. I say hey, man, let me get your number, man. So he, he said he was why you want my number.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:And I laughed at everything he let. He didn't give me his number, so everybody you ask it, you know is not gonna say yes, but no, and I'm not. I hold no grudges against Richard. Maybe he wasn't in a position to be a mentor, maybe he didn't even know I wanted him to be my mentor.
Speaker 1:No, I just say so. Some people. God doesn't want you to have them as mentors either.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I think that was a wise choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean the path in the road that you may have gone down, you know, and not saying you know, maybe if you want to learn to be a great comedian and have great timing and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:But some of the lifestyle things that choices that we know Richard Pryor made through his life may not have been the greatest to be your mentor. But then you start thinking about I mean I love what you said because you said ask right, find somebody that you also want to find somebody who's kind of close to where you're at, to possible, because you know if you go, okay, I want to be like Tyler Perry, right, the chances of you being mentored by Tyler Perry right away are probably slim and none right, because there is such a gap, a huge gap that you know, between what's kind of really going to be a help you do as far as a mentor relationship. You know on a daily basis. I mean he could tell you some things, but probably most of the things he could tell you be so mind blowing that you couldn't even. You couldn't even fathom because he's so far removed and not, you know, probably Perry was exactly where we are, probably worse off than we've ever been, you know, through his life, but he's not there now.
Speaker 1:And so if I show up in that spot right now. It might not be the good place, but if there's somebody who is that at that professing, or somebody who is that you know, person that you know that you've seen, that's done really well in business, that maybe doesn't make a billion dollars but makes a million dollars, or five million dollars, depending on where you're at.
Speaker 1:You know, if you're making $25,000 a year, you don't need to talk to the guy who's making a billion dollars. You need to talk to the guy who's making 250 or 500 to kind of get you in that mindset to be able to do that. Are there people that you can see throughout your life that that kind of did that for you? Maybe yet that anybody that you can think that was kind of close enough to you that you were able to ask, and maybe you can even share one of the gyms or something that they told you that that changed everything in your perspective.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's happened so so many times and and sometimes when it doesn't even have to be a mentor, it just happens when God sends people to give you the same information over and over again. You know as God, because and one example of that is when Kim and I were just minding our own business but we had a business partner who had cheated us out of everything and we were in bankruptcy and foreclosure People will come up and say, jim, kim, you know what you guys should try out for, the amazing race. And we're like, oh, we like that show. The first time somebody said it, brian, if you really think about it, the amazing race, like a prototypical basketball player is tall and thin, prototypical, a prototypical, you know, bodybuilders, muscular, what the heck is a prototypical, the amazing racer? There is none. But that person said it. And about a few days later, another whole different, unrelated person said it, then a couple said it and when the fifth person within two weeks said it, we went home, I got, we tried out for it and I knew it was God. I knew it was God. So when things keep on hitting you that seem far fetched, and we listened to it and all while we were on that show. We're still the oldest team that ever win that show. Even to this day we're still the oldest.
Speaker 2:The halfway through the race the producers will come and say he to Bertram van Muster, he has a funny accent, he went cheap, you could win this thing, and we will go. Oh, thank you, bertram, that's so cool. And then when he would turn his back we say he's so full of, tell us that food, just that food, just trying to get us to work. I ain't gonna review upset, he's pissing me off to do. You know we God showed me we were going to get on the amazing race and God showed me we were going to get tremendous favor. But he never showed me we were going to win, not even once. Until until the last day we didn't even know, we didn't even think we had a chance, till the last day.
Speaker 1:So Wow, how long was that show then? How long were you gone out of circulation to be able to all the filming and going? That I mean. I've watched the show a few times.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was six weeks we were gone and we went to all the continents, 12 different countries, 72,000 miles in six weeks.
Speaker 1:Wow. So, seeing all that culture and then coming back to america and living back into america, what are, what are some takeaways? That that you see that we could do better In our society, or that that we should take some lessons from some of the other cultures that you saw?
Speaker 2:Well, um, brian, seriously I I'd be trying to wax poetic if I try to say something about that, but all I will say, man is, no matter what country you're from, I really would like for you to look at the like the scoreboard of your life at the end, when you finally do pass on, and I want you to look at it at. I had a good day, I had a great day, or I had a terrible or miserable day, and I would say that if you have a life that is filled with great days, it's better than having a life filled with bad days. And the the weird thing about that is you can determine probably 99 of those times. You can determine what kind of day you're going to have, because you have no, no control over that which happens to you, but you have 100 percent control over your attitude towards that. So I, like I told you, I fight for my happiness, I fight for the happiness of others, no matter what's going on. I put myself, I make a concerted effort to put myself in situations that are conducive to that.
Speaker 2:And if you, no matter where you live and what, what country you live in, man, just fight for happiness for yourself, fight for wins for yourself. Fight for more money For yourself, as long as you're not hurting anybody else. You want to make certain that you, because you can't. I couldn't be happy If I'm making money but I'm doing like this to Brian and I'm screwing. I want to sleep at night and I want to sleep well and I want to. I want Brian, I want everybody around me to make money, so Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got, I got you know. Another question, one last question for you as we start to wind down, and it's about the formula. One of the things you just said is so important is we have to go through life believing there's enough resources. Right, the god is giving this planet with an abundance of resources that we can figure out, and so you, but you don't have to take somebody else out in order for you to gain, and I think that's kind of the mentality of a lot of us. In order for you to win, I have to lose. I think that's why you're excited when somebody wins, because you know I can win too this guy, I can celebrate his life, celebrate everything is dead, celebrate his accomplishment, because I know that it's not taking like well, since he won, I can't win anymore. And if we can get out that mentality that there's this abundance of resources that are there, what I would love for you to share with us is your formula for happiness, like what is?
Speaker 1:What is the day in the life? A chip in gouser? Look like we. From the time you get up to the time you go to bed, you're happy, you're excited, you want life to happen. What, how can I take that is because I get up. You know, I'm the guy who gets up and I'm just what was me? This day's gonna suck, just like yesterday. Second, tomorrow's gonna suck. This is bad. You know how do I change that? What does chip do every day that? That just keeps him excited.
Speaker 2:Well, first off, um, we, we all know what An introvert is and an extrovert, but my definition of it is an introvert gains Regeneration, um, vigor, energy from being by themselves. That's an introvert that they, you know. Can, you know, recharge I Am an extrovert man, so when I'm by myself, it's like either. You know, I love it being by myself when I'm tired and I need to sleep, but when I get up in our energy man, kim's gone, cj's gone, nobody's wrong. I'm like what the heck. And I'm like, um, even when I'm about to go somewhere, I'm about to go up. Man, I wish I could have stayed whole for brian, for me, as soon as I see people, oh my god, I get so much energy from people, man.
Speaker 2:And I used to be ashamed or scared to say this statement, and I'm gonna say it boldly now. I Am a likable, slash, lovable guy. People like and love me, and I used to be ashamed of saying that, man, because how could somebody be so brash to say that? But the reason I can say it is because people can genuinely see that I love them, because I love people I mean you're, especially when I first meet you. Your slate is clean, man, you are so lovable. It's only up to you to be that. Remember we talked about that problem person. And then when you're that problem person, you know you don't. You don't mess up my parade, it's just that you know we don't have to breathe the same air. You know we don't have to breathe the same air.
Speaker 1:Wow, that is so cool, so so cool. I'm so glad that, uh, that we were able to talk today. If there's one thing or a few things of just departing messages, things that you would want to feed into somebody, things that you'd want to just, you know, departing message that says you can do this. You know, one of the things that I say at the end of all my shows, whichever they are, whatever podcast I'm doing, is, uh, one that that you can do this, you, you can achieve a different life. Then you already have, if you choose to.
Speaker 1:The next thing is you deserve it. You know god put you on this planet. You are his greatest gift. He loves you, he wants you to succeed, he wants you to do well. You deserve this because god wants you to deserve it. And the last thing is how do I find others in those circles? Uh, you know, you have to seek them out of people that can help bring you up, not take you down, and you have to spend that time. So, in that, like, what are, what are some things? Are the departing thoughts that you would love to to share with folks that are listening to this today that could help them start that? That?
Speaker 2:road to greatness. Uh, thank you, brian. Well, first off, I'll say um, as we established, um, um, um just started January 1st and have a lot of great short videos there to this point. They're only one minute. They're reels, um, and you can find them on either chip mcallister on facebook or amazing race chip on instagram, tiktok and twitter and youtube chips tips. But go out and and find those so um that that would just be amazing. But what I would say, um To whoever's listening man, um, what brian said Means a lot.
Speaker 2:You were not put on this earth as a mistake. Who, whoever is listening right now, you have a rich, tremendous destiny that you have yet to attain. But and this butt is so big, you don't necessarily have to attain it. You could actually not attain your destiny and the only way for you to attain it Is to want it and to take steps. Just take a baby steps towards your destiny.
Speaker 2:Don't sit around and let life pass you by. Don't do it. Take a chance. And, like I said, when those five people came up to me, you know, on the, you know for the amazing race, and when those those people saw an advertisement, for they were looking for a young man to play Muhammad Ali in his life story on the news, and my mother told me about it. You have to listen to people and take steps, even though you're totally unequipped, you're totally unqualified. It's totally something that's too big for you. Remember? Ain't nothing too big for god, and the god in you can attain it. So never put limits on yourself. And take steps. And the last thing I'm going to be doing.
Speaker 2:The last thing I'll leave you with is this Is I spent my whole life, um, from the age of probably mid 30s to late 50s 60 pounds overweight, and I want to tell you, right now I'm living, I'm living my. I'm living my best life. Right now, I'm I'm feeling good. You, you have to get your body in shape. If you're sitting around there, that's the one thing you can take care of. I don't care who you are. I don't care who you are. Don't be fat and out of shape, because it your. My life is so much better, so much more energy. No knee pain, playing pickleball every day. Feel better than I felt in like years, and I'm not just saying this, I don't feel 66.
Speaker 2:Get yourself in shape. And the way to do that Don't. Don't go looking on diets, don't look at atkins, don't look at fatkins and don't look at napkins. All you need to do is don't eat what you know you shouldn't eat. A seven year old kid knows, if he has the Choice between a Snickers bar and broccoli, what he should be eating. So you owe it to yourself. I'm off my soap box. Back to you, brian.
Speaker 1:Oh, man thank you, thank you, thank you for adding that health piece in there that that is so important, and and to be able to go down this journey you help is the number one thing to be able to do, not only physical health, mental health and we, we can work on those things together. And so thank you for being on the show today, thank you for taking your time To give us the knowledge that you given us and and I know it's important I know somebody's going to be uplifted by it. I know that as a group, as a team of people, as a group of people who are trying to move forward, we can do this, we can make it happen. We can make yeah, we, we can make our lives so much better. Instead of waiting for life to happen to us, we get to go make life happen and chip.
Speaker 1:I just appreciate you, I appreciate all the things that you've done in my life, over my time, and the, the wisdom that you've in, I guess, uh, given to me. I guess is the word that I'm trying to look for that you've given to me over the years and making it such a wonderful place, and the joy that you exude Uh, that's the joy that people need to have, because happiness on a daily basis Be means a happy life, and so whatever we can do on a daily basis to do that, we can tell that you do that, so we'll have you back on at some point. We're going to be doing not only we're going to do this show, we're going to get 100 episodes in in 2024, then we're going to start working on the relationships and then we're going to get some spouses in here, and so you guys are going to come back as a team, as a group, and so I again just appreciate you being on the show and look forward to talking to you the next time.