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The Q&A Files drops A Wellness Explosion
💥 BOOM! Attention Wellness Warriors. The game changer you have been waiting for is finally here. Say hello to “The Q&A Files,” where wellness meets revolution and your questions lead to new discoveries. Spearheaded by Trisha Jamison, your host, a Board Certified Functional Nutritionist. Cohost Dr. Jeff Jamison, a Board Certified Family Physician, and featured guest, Tony Overbay, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. This podcast blends three diverse perspectives to tackle your questions on health, nutrition, medicine, mental wellness, and relationships. Dive into a world of expert insights and actionable advice, all sparked by your curiosity. Tune in, ignite your wellness journey, and join the Wellness Warrior community.
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9. The Art of Balancing Parenthood, Professional Resilience, and Nutritional Science
Life's personal milestones have a way of shaping our journey in ways we least expect. As your hosts, Trisha Jamison, Dr. Jeff Jamison, and Tony Overbay, we each bring a slice of our own lives to the table, celebrating the connections we've forged through health and relationships. From the delight of birthday surprises to the deep bonds we share with our children, this episode is a tapestry of intimate moments and the profound lessons they offer. We candidly explore the significance of secure attachments—those critical ties that influence every interaction within our families.
Unpacking the delicate art of relationship repair and the quest for emotional security unveils the intricate dance between unconditional love and boundary-setting that every parent must navigate. I, Trisha share how personal anecdotes serve as powerful touchstones in understanding the balance of nurturing and guiding our children, even as they grow into adults. Together, we delve into the emotional complexities facing healthcare professionals, unearthing coping strategies that address the intense demands of their vocation. It's a conversation that underscores the courage and compassion inherent in their roles.
As the episode unfolds, we turn to the intriguing world of intermittent fasting, answering Amber's curiosity from Seattle with insights on its varied methods and physiological impacts. We weigh the health benefits, such as weight loss and disease risk reduction, against the potential social and physical challenges the practice may present. With our collective expertise, we offer a well-rounded view on integrating such a lifestyle change, emphasizing its tailored nature and the importance of professional guidance. This is more than just an exploration of dietary trends; it's about embracing the intersections where health meets relationships, and how each milestone, whether personal or collective, contributes to our evolving story. Join us in this heartfelt dialogue that celebrates the growth emerging from every facet of life.
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Hello and welcome to the Q&A Files, the ultimate health and wellness playground. I'm your host, tricia Jamison, a board certified functional nutritionist and lifestyle practitioner, ready to lead you through a world of health discoveries. Here we dive into tapestry of disease prevention, to nutrition, exercise, mental health and building strong relationships, all spiced with diverse perspectives. It's not just a podcast, it's a celebration of health, packed with insights and a twist of fun. Welcome aboard the Q&A Files, where your questions ignite our vibrant discussions and lead to a brighter you. Hey there, wellness warriors. Welcome back to the Q&A Files. I'm so glad to have my two co-hosts here with me today Dr Jeff Jamison, a board certified family physician, and Tony Overbay, a licensed marriage family therapist. We have some great questions and, as we know, curiosity sparks our great discussions. And first of all, before we even go there, we're going to start with celebrations. So what are some celebrations the two of you would like to share today?
Speaker 2:Is it a bad thing when I cannot quite think of one? I mean, they're that humble or I've had nothing. They are here, they're coming.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, I'm going to go first then. Okay, because I have a celebration. I had a birthday on Saturday and it was literally the most fun day ever. I got to spend the morning with my mom and my sister. We went to a women's conference and it was so enjoyable. And then my sweet husband bought tickets. I sent him to purchase tickets a month earlier because I really wanted to go to this thing called the Thorn and it was a Broadway production. It was absolutely out of this world. It was kind of the life of Christ and that's just what I wanted to enjoy that day. And then I came home and my husband actually went shopping for me and he got me a couple shirts, and this is one of them.
Speaker 1:I know our listeners can't see that, but it's. He usually has my daughter help him with all of his shopping sprees and I just he did such a great job and I appreciate that and it was just a great day.
Speaker 2:Tricia. I feel like this is where I missed an opportunity to be funny, because I forget that if people are listening, then I should have jumped in there and said you know what? You look great in plaid and polka dot, I mean. So. Dr, Jeffy did an amazing job and your taste is phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I got to hear from all of our kids A happy birthday, so it was a really fun day. All right, you guys are on. What's your celebrations?
Speaker 2:Hey, Tony, go ahead. Okay, so I do have a cat to let out of a bag, and that is that we are now making it pretty public that we, we are moving. And I've been in California for almost 30 years and now we're heading to Arizona and the celebration biggest part of that is it's to go be by my first grandchild, and that means I'm a very old man. But I don't feel like that and I just I cannot wait. So change. Change is a good thing and I'm excited about it, and I cannot believe we get these little videos of a tiny human being that's inside of my daughter right at this very moment.
Speaker 1:We are so excited for you because we have nine grandchildren and every single one is such a delight and they are just. They light up my world, and so I can't wait to see what happens to you and the kind of person you become because you're a grandpa. Do you have a name yet? Do you know?
Speaker 2:what you're going to be called. Oh, what I'm going to be called, I don't. I don't know. I'm from Tennessee originally, so it was Mammon Papaw. I can't imagine being a Papaw, so I think at this point it's just a grandpa. Yeah, what are you guys called? That's a great, I'm curious.
Speaker 1:I'm Nanny.
Speaker 2:And I'm Papa.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Okay, I like those. I like those. Those are good yeah.
Speaker 1:I was going to be Grammy, but our little granddaughter, our first granddaughter, couldn't say Grammy, she only could say Nanny. So it kind of stuck to me that's cute.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm going to be a grandad.
Speaker 1:to that I was a big fan for a while, but now I can't imagine being anything else. So, I like it All. Right, Jeff.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, it's taken me a little while to think of one, because I've had some significant hits this last week and so with every negative comes positives. So I was being very grateful last night about my family and my children and the staff and people that I get to work with at work, because I'm very lucky to have some amazing nurse practitioners, medical assistants, office staff that do a wonderful job for the people that we serve. I just am so grateful for them. That's a celebration for me today.
Speaker 1:Yes, that is great. The reason we do these celebrations is because we focus so often on all the things that we don't do well. We don't do well enough. When I start my sessions, I always ask my clients to start with celebrations, and it usually just like you guys. They're like huh, I have to what?
Speaker 3:I got to remember that next time.
Speaker 1:But it's good. Then you start with your prefrontal cortex on board, not your critter brain going crazy and all the emotional drama that comes with that. So we get to start off on a good note and that's been really helpful, all right. So this question is for Tony. This person says hey, tony, I've heard you on one of your other podcasts talking with one of your daughters and it sounds like you have a really good relationship. You mentioned a secure attachment with your kids. What does that mean?
Speaker 1:Now, I'm not sure who said this, but this was in my inbox.
Speaker 2:Okay, I really like this question a lot and this is one of those things I love to. I feel like I often need to frame things from a healthy ego, and I realize that's more to make myself feel okay. But healthy ego is just something that is based off of real life experience Versus the opposite of that is when we're being defensive and we don't take criticism. Well anyway, that's just to say that I'm about to sound like I'm doing a humble brag or a puff myself up because I've been doing more and more. I've got two podcasts with two of my daughters, one called Murder on the Couch, one called the Mind, the Mirror and me. Then, with the daughter that does Murder on the Couch with me, we've been doing these live relationship question and answers on social media TikTok and YouTube and Instagram.
Speaker 1:I saw one last week. It was excellent.
Speaker 2:Yes, there to the point now where we did one a couple of days ago and there were about I think it was 17,000 people viewed it, which is wild, and I'm sitting there with my daughter and the questions are very.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's live. It's crazy. My wife manages the questions coming in. There are about 400 of them. We've got those on one monitor and one of my other daughters is managing the comments because if you have 17,000 people dropped by, there's going to be some that probably need to be asked to leave because they're not there to really ask questions Right.
Speaker 2:But we really talk about difficult things. She's talked about what her experience was with growing up with us as a bit of a religious family, growing up with the food issues growing up with, and it's been so amazing. I love when she can open up about that, but I just maybe for a second and I had this up, so I love this question. Here are some of the comments that we have. Is someone saying I can only hope I have this relationship like this with my daughter? I love seeing a relationship like this between father and daughter. You guys are awesome. Wow. A healthy father-daughter relationship. That's unfortunately rare. Someone had mentioned that. How are you guys so open to each other? How did you get to this stage?
Speaker 2:But there's one comment in particular that I thought was really fascinating. The person just says they said what did you do, tony, to work through your own trauma to be a better father? And I thought that was the question, because I often do say that if it all possible to try to repair those relationships that maybe aren't what we thought they would be as a parent, it really starts with us, because the kid will most likely be testing that relationship for safety. And then I'm going to want to react because maybe I feel like I'm changed or I know that I've done things in the past and I'm not happy with and so I'm trying to be better. But that's a me thing. That doesn't mean that the other person is going to reciprocate or even receive me trying to improve the relationship, and so for anybody listening to this, I'm not trying to say that then. So then, if they don't welcome you back into their life, then you're a bad person.
Speaker 2:I come from this place of like. We just all didn't know what we didn't know, and now that one person is becoming more aware, then all they can do is try to reach out or do their best to repair the relationship. Now, if the other person, if the adult child, is set a boundary, that can be a real challenge. If they've said, okay, if you reach out to me, then I will pull further away or I will not respond, that can be really hard.
Speaker 3:Which is more of an ultimatum.
Speaker 2:It is, and I feel like that is a situation where then at least the parent has done what they can do, and I think that that's I want the person that's really trying to improve the relationship to do everything they feel they can do, but at some point it may need to be left alone for a bit, but that doesn't mean they don't care and anyway. So I guess that's even a topic for another day, because secure attachment was the question, and what that looks like is. A secure attachment is and boy, I feel like I did this with half of my last son, you know, my three daughters. I didn't know what I didn't know, and but a secure attachment is where they can go out and interact with the world and not feel like they're doing it wrong necessarily. So when they come back and I did this, I broke this, I forgot this, I failed this Instead of me getting frustrated or angry about it, which is our natural response, that's a me issue.
Speaker 2:Why am I frustrated? I need to be able to provide this emotional consistency and safety, and secure attachment is that, so they can come back and then they feel like, well, I was just doing my best and this is what happened, and then I can say tell me more, what was that like? If I want to get angry, then again that's a me issue and this is just not our default settings because we just don't work this way. So I think it's it's really, it's really difficult, and so I've had to do a lot of that after I've already blown it with, you know, with my kids for so long, and so I love the question where what a secure attachment can look like at any point. When you have that with your kid, your partner, then they know that they can go and do and then come back and you still love them, because none of us are gonna do things perfect.
Speaker 1:You mean you have to be emotionally mature.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm afraid so yeah it's one of those things again, but yeah, because I think, and what it ends up looking like, is one of my kids, and I'm still I don't know how. I've told you guys this. We've just been talking for fun, but it blows me away. My son will say things like man. I almost got in a fight with this adult at the pier in San Francisco and I'm thinking what are you doing? I mean, first of all, why are you telling me that? Because, you know, I'm probably gonna tell you it's not very smart, you know, but he grew up this feeling like well, this is what I did, though, and I wanna tell you, you're my parent, so I wanna be able to express that to you because I care about you and I would love your feedback, you know, or that sort of thing.
Speaker 2:Or he's one who left the oven on all day once, and I get home and he's like dad, guess what I did today? And I'm thinking he's gonna tell me something cool, and he said I left the burner on all day, and I just thought I had such mixed feelings, since my you know, our media thought is like that's bad, you shouldn't have done that. Well, it wasn't like he said today. I think I'm gonna leave the burner on. So I just thought, wow, I mean, I did that as a kid and this day I've never told a soul because I thought I was getting in trouble. So here's a secure attachment, as he's telling me about this thing, because if I get mad at him that's a me issue, because he already did it, it happened, and so I feel like that's what that secure attachment looks like, or at last one, and this is why I say I'm hopefully building that now with my daughters, the ones that I'm doing some of the projects with, but all the stories seem to be with my son, because at that point I realized, oh okay, these are me issues.
Speaker 2:But when he got pulled over the first time, this cop had him call home and talk to my wife and the cop tried to make my son feel bad, you know, and my son, he's like well, I think you need to call your mom, and he's like okay. And so he called, he's like mom. So I got pulled over, I was speeding. She's like okay, are you okay? And he's like yeah, and then she said okay, and the cop ended up telling my son oh, I usually do that's because the kid feels bad, the parent gets angry and then he'll never do it again. And Jake, just my son, was even saying oh, okay, like he still didn't understand. Okay.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I work for somebody else Right, and I just anyway. So I love the question and I just, but if anything, people listening to this, none of us are doing this natural, or maybe there are people out there doing it naturally, but I feel like most of us just don't know what we don't know. It's natural for us to react because and then a lot of it is from if he gets pulled over, it's wild, because my subconscious wants to say he shouldn't have done that. I should have taught him. I haven't. I told him don't speed. I'm sure I have, but then haven't I told myself don't speed, and I spent on the way over to work today. So that stuff happens.
Speaker 1:So yeah, can I add something to that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, please.
Speaker 1:I think I've shared with you about the four levels of consciousness by. His name is Peter Sage, and one of the things that he talks about is this to me, there's to me, by me, through me and as me, and each phase has a different level of how to respond in a way that's going to help you either take charge.
Speaker 2:I don't remember this. Tell me yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll go into this. I think this is like a whole nother episode that we could focus on. Kind of reminds me of your four pillars of connected conversation, and I applied all four of those into these as well, and it's just super powerful. But the thing that I've learned is the. To me, that's the victim mode, that's the you're to blame. Everyone's out to get me.
Speaker 2:You're doing this to me. Okay, I got you.
Speaker 1:And there's a part. There's like eight different levels in that to me, but one of them is childhood and how we grew up, and when a child grows up not feeling that unconditional love that we, you know, blame that we are all expressing to our kids. It's more conditional love, because if a child is acting a certain way.
Speaker 1:What do they do? Do they get praised or do they just like you said? I mean, I loved what your example of the police officer has him call his mom and it's like yeah, are you okay? Yeah, instead of like, oh my gosh, are you kidding me? And just kind of going off on him and I just I love that because that shows such unconditional love and that's what we want our kids to feel. But how often do they feel that, growing up, when they are in a place of somebody's hitting their sibling you know you're gonna get mad at that, right? Instead of I still love you no matter what you're doing, but please stop hitting your sister, you know? But how often do we do that? Not very often. And you take time out and do you know? I mean I'm not saying that you can't discipline your children, but I think it's so imperative to make sure that they always feel that unconditional love, and so often we you know you don't have that Go ahead.
Speaker 2:What I like about that, too, is that, because here's why, then, while I admit here, I'm saying, oh, and I have this wonderful, secure attachment, but I also don't have the I'm not teaching a boundary, so to speak, though, because it isn't a man. I love you and I'm glad you're safe, but you will need to pay for the ticket. I couldn't do that, I mean, so that's where I'm not sitting here talking about being enlightened because, I even I paid the ticket because I didn't want, I didn't want to have the conversation.
Speaker 2:I didn't want that discomfort of that, because you know I'm going all in on the unconditional love. But you know I realize later that I'm doing it in hopes that then he will never do anything wrong again or cost me money.
Speaker 1:You know Well, and I think that that brings up another point, and that is unconditional love does have boundaries.
Speaker 2:Exactly In theory. I've heard of that. Yeah, I just haven't quite done them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, thank you for sharing that. I think that that's really important.
Speaker 2:Well, and I look forward. I like the two me thing that hits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, we'll talk about that sometime. How about if we talk about that next week? We'll talk about that. That'd be good. Our levels of consciousness.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the two me thing is really interesting and something that I've struggled with from my own perspective too. So it's a. You know, it's a really good way to look at things.
Speaker 1:Well, and the other thing that I like as well is I have my clients, I have this handout and it's on limiting beliefs and it goes through that hole to me, because that's where limiting beliefs begin and there's that core space that all these things start to. You know that seeds planted and then it starts to grow and flourish into exactly what you don't want, but then they can kind of go through that timeline and see where those things have shown up and anyway, it's pretty powerful. So thank you for that question and answering that. That was awesome. All right, jeff. How do doctors cope with the emotional toll of dealing with illness, injury and death on a regular basis?
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a heavy hit. I wanna know this. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:This is a heavy hitter and it's something that we've been I've been actually having to deal with recently. I haven't had actually I've had a couple of patients die that I've known for a really long time that are recent, and then there's also ones. The ones that are hardest, I think, are the ones that have something serious happen to them, like a stroke or heart attack that leaves them disabled, but it doesn't kill them Because those people want and need more from their their primary care physician and their other caregivers than they ever had before and they don't know how to handle it and, frankly, oftentimes neither do we, but we do our best. So recently I have a gentleman, friend and patient that I've known for the last 25 years and taken care of him. Very sharp man, he's been a person that's been involved in shipping and has worked all across the world. He's had so many important contacts in the government and military and all kinds of different people, so he knows a lot of folks. He also knows a lot of, you know, kind of backhanded things that have happened in those situations and stories like you can't believe, and I've been fortunate to be able to listen to a lot of those and to be able to enjoy his company in not only the doctor setting but as a friend, going to lunch here and there.
Speaker 3:So he's 90 years old and just two days ago, on Tuesday, he was getting prepared for a total knee replacement and he went to the rehabilitation center where he was going to be taken after his surgery, just to make sure all the things were set up there and outside the door he fell. Somehow there's not any ice around, so I don't think he slipped on the ice right now, but he slipped and fell, hit his head and created a bleeding inside of his brain that caused a stroke and other mental deficits because of the pressure on his brain. And I think that also some of the emergency staff that immediately addressed his situation didn't recognize because he's 90 years old, you'd expect he'd be somewhat disabled and demented and stuff anyway, which he was not. So they weren't sure what his baseline level of function was and so they didn't opt to treat very aggressively on this man because of his age. So he had a worsening of this problem. The bleed spread and he had larger deficits because there was no treatment and a lot of the treatments are pretty invasive, and so that's why they didn't do it, figuring that they did treat him, he'd probably pass away. So I can understand where they were coming from. But at the same time I kind of wish they'd tried a little harder and not been a little worried about his age, because they just didn't know him Anyway. So I went to visit him this morning in the hospital and he's got total left-sided paralysis and it took some prodding, but he did recognize who I was. And when I left there I left with a feeling that you know, the person that I knew is no longer gonna be around and so that's.
Speaker 3:And when you had 25 plus year relationships with people and seeing those things change very, very challenging. And sometimes when I have to tell people that they have cancer or they have some other debilitating disease, I have to tell them. And then the very next patient might be a patient with a newborn and they wanna be happy. They want their doctor to be happy that they've got a brand new baby and excited. And to go from the emotional lows to the emotional highs can be very, very difficult.
Speaker 3:So the question is how do you deal with it?
Speaker 3:Well, sometimes doctors don't deal with it very well.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 3:They have poor coping mechanisms.
Speaker 3:They do things like drink alcohol, use pornography, engage in risky behaviors in multiple ways, and sometimes just to try and escape the pain and pressure of their life.
Speaker 3:And sometimes you get those those pressures coupled with home pressures and it's very difficult to manage.
Speaker 3:And so people that are emotionally mature, emotionally mature physicians which I'm hoping that I'm starting to become now that I've been doing this for a long, long time I've found other things that help me relax, and one of them for me is I really enjoy flying. So I'm a pilot, and so even if I can just get in the airplane and basically fly around the block which is a, you know, not very long flight, maybe 10, 15 minutes that's enough for me to kind of clear my head and to readvance myself and to move on in the day to do other positive things. The other thing is connecting with people that you care about, and those connections are the most important to me. Connecting with my wife, probably the most important thing, connecting with God, connecting with other friends and family these connections can help you remember and help you reset your brain so that you can approach the next day a little bit more clear-headed and objectively. So that's a long answer for a short question, but it's a very tough one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, and Dr Jeff is one of these unusual patients that actually will go to their bedside and hold their hand and make sure that they're comforted and he's like the old school that everyone loves and it's funny. I was talking to a client yesterday who's also she's a patient of Jeff and I was telling her that at some point he's going to start thinking about retiring. She's like no, that can't happen, he's got to take his most favorite patients. I told Jeff that he's like take them where? So it was just funny. It's like, yeah, I had four of those today. But yeah, he's a very well respected, very, very liked physician in our community and we're grateful to have him.
Speaker 3:Well, thank you very much, Even though you're biased a little tiny bit, a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 1:That's okay. But this is the thing. I actually don't think so, because I will see, I will go to Costco and I will have somebody waving emphatically at me and all of a sudden they'll realize she has no idea who I am and it's just because they have seen my pictures. They have kind of seen our family change and so they're so excited to see me because of him, and I'll just kind of wave back like yep, that's one of his patients, and they're all embarrassed realizing, oh my gosh, she has no.
Speaker 3:And the reason why people say that, as I have pictures of my family around in the rooms that people sit and waiting.
Speaker 1:So it makes me smile.
Speaker 2:It makes me smile too.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a funny one, though I have to tell you my wife one of the most. What she says is uncomfortable times is they have been doing therapy in the area for 17, 18 years and pretty much run into people all the time. You know all their amazing, wonderful secrets and they will come up and say things and she just knows to say hi, I'll say this is my friend, you know, or that sort of thing. And that's so funny because I get the same thing.
Speaker 1:They'll expect me to know things about them, and I'm like even family. They're like well, I'm sure Jeff told you this. I'm like nope, I have no idea what you're talking about. And they're like really. I'm like oh yeah, there's actually a law.
Speaker 2:Exactly right, Exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:And the law that's really important. Here they're like yeah, I guess that's true, so it's really funny.
Speaker 3:It's been funny, but it's also been really good because people then understand I'm not going to talk about them or anybody.
Speaker 2:They get to see that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So they see it in firsthand, even though they would expect it, for instance, if it was a family member of, you know, my wife's family, trisha's family, and I'll see one of them and they'll say oh, you know, this happened, jeff probably told you, just like she said. And when she says no, they are flabbergasted. But then they recognize that I don't.
Speaker 1:But sometimes they're annoyed, they're like seriously, he didn't tell you, like nope, if you want to tell me, go ahead, but I will not hear that from him.
Speaker 3:I tell him, that's their job, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, that was a heavy thing. That was heavy and I appreciate you sharing that and I know that your friend has. You know, you've enjoyed him a lot over the years and I always hear about his conversations. I've even gone to lunch with the two of them. He loves to talk, he loves to share all about his life and it's fascinating and I know that you'll miss that, so I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3:Yep, I'll miss it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay. So my question today is this actually is a question. Her name is Amber, from Seattle, and I love this question. This is on intermittent fasting. What she's asking is you know, this has been around a little bit longer than most fat diets, but is it the real deal? What are the pros and cons? So there's so many different diet plans and I think if you can stick to diet and you can make it work for you, then that's a good diet for you. When they start to restrict a lot of the different food groups, I start to question that. I know that there's like you've got beach body diet. There's a cookie dough diet. That's actually the one that I wouldn't mind trying out.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say this is a thing, a chocolate chip cookie dough.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's it. That would be my kind of diet. But the thing about intermittent fasting is there's some really, really amazing key things that happen when you're fasting. So that's the thing that I'd like to talk about today. And you've got a lot of different kinds of methods that they use. There's like a 16-8 method, and what that means is you fast for 16 hours and then you have an eight hour window. Sometimes it's 20 to four. It just there's a lot of different variables that whatever works for you. And then there's also one that's a five to two ratio, and that is you eat five days normal, and then you take two days and you cut out a lot of those calories. You really cut them back, and there's something called muscle confusion, and what that basically is is when you are working out. If you're doing the same workout every single day, within about three weeks your body starts to become so efficient that it starts to burn less calories.
Speaker 3:Like marathon running.
Speaker 1:Yep, but that's why it's important. That's why you're not a marathoner, but that's why it's important to add different activities like yoga, hip routine, anything else, especially any kind of weightlifting, is really important because you want to keep your body confused. Same kind of thing with eating. So there's something called calorie confusion, and so what this does is it confuses your body, because a lot of times you eat around the same intake of calories most days, give or take a few things. If you have a birthday or something special, you may go up a little bit, but it really kind of like balances out through the week.
Speaker 1:It's pretty fascinating. So even if you go out for a heavy meal on one day and you weigh yourself, there's a lot of salt in that food, there's a lot of potential, the fats and so forth, but by the third day you're pretty much leveled out. That is gone, unless you continue eating like that. But the thing about so there's the different ways that you can start that intermittent fasting. And when you think about when you break your fast, it doesn't always have to be in the morning, you know, like breakfast that's breaking your fast. It could literally be at any time of the day. Hold on one second.
Speaker 3:I keep your thought, but I want to let people know. Before you start a significant change in your diet, be sure you consult with your physician, because there are certain medical conditions that doing intermittent fasting is probably not the best thing. So anyway, talk to your doctor, okay.
Speaker 2:And Trisha also hold that thought. No, no, because when I read those things, dr Jeff, that say always consult a physician, I can't lie. I always wonder if people really do. You know, because it'll say that on the back of almost anything I mean, I'm trying out a new green drink, I won't mention it because it's about potential sponsorship and of course it says please consult your physician. And I've always wondered, I've never thought to ask somebody and you're a real doctor, do people say him about to try this thing? And it says consult you about it, you get a lot of that.
Speaker 3:Yes, they do. I don't get a lot of that, but yes, they do, and they bring in different like you said, drinks and supplements and things like that, to have me look at the ingredients to make sure it's okay for them and their medications.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay. So you got ahead of me because I definitely have that in here to talk to your physician.
Speaker 3:I didn't read your mind. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1:No, just give me a chance.
Speaker 1:So definitely talk to your physician, because he knows your medications and he knows what's going to be best for you. Because what happens is, even though there's a lot of amazing things that happen with intermittent fasting, there's still some things that you may not be aware of when it comes to what your body needs, that you may not understand. So first we're going to talk about autophagy. I want you to imagine an apple. You've eaten half an apple, you got distracted, you put that apple on the counter and you come back several hours later and it's kind of like pruned up and dried, maybe even the next day, it's kind of oxidized. Well, that's what happens to your cells, and they start to oxidize and they get damaged. And what happens during autophagy is it goes through and it recycles those damaged cells. And the cool thing about that is is it can only happen in a fasting state, but your body has to be fully hydrated. If you are not fully hydrated before you go to bed, your body's gonna have a hard time going into a state of autophagy. But if you've been drinking enough water through the day, your body's gonna do a great job of just cleaning up, and what that is is just going through and it cleans up all the debris and it restores those cells and that is really important because when you think about aging, that's part of the aging process is that oxidized cell and it's not able to rejuvenate and regenerate. So really important pieces there. But also there's some great benefits. We'll talk about both. She asked for the pros and cons. Weight loss is really important. You can definitely lose weight on intermittent fasting, but you gotta be careful because a lot of times people will make up for that calorie deficit. But there's a lot of improved metabolic health, especially if you're trying to. People that have. It will improve your insulin sensitivity. It helps regulate your blood sugar levels and it also can help reduce the risk of type two diabetes. But again, you wanna make sure that you're in contact with your doctor and he knows what you're doing. And there's also enhanced brain health and intermittent fasting promotes the production of what's called BDNF brain-derived nootropic factor, what that is? It's a protein that supports brain health, cognition and mood, and so that's gonna be really important. And it really helps reduce inflammation and there's a lot of studies that suggest that intermittent fasting can help reduce the inflammation in the body which is linked to so many various diseases. Also it helps with decreasing risks of heart disease, cancers and Alzheimer's disease, and so that's gonna be really important coming up here. And there's a lot more, because this has been out long enough that there's a lot of new studies coming out that support this.
Speaker 1:And, just like I said, cellular repair damage is so. So that's the great benefit of intermittent fasting and then longevity again when you've got your cells being repaired. It extends the life of the cell and it can help reducing the risk of H-related diseases. And the nice thing is it's simple and it's flexible. You don't have to focus on counting calories or reducing all the different things like most diets promote. It's very flexible and, of course, the cost saving for a meal can go a long way as well and it's, like I said, convenient.
Speaker 1:So here are the downsides of it. It's at first it's kind of uncomfortable. There's some discomfort in that you may feel some fatigue, you will experience hunger, sometimes, like anything else, you're starting a new schedule and it's just something new, so sometimes that takes some time to kind of gear up and start that whole process. Sometimes there's a risk of nutrient deficiency and so if you're intermittent fasting but you're not getting the nutrients and the essential vitamins and minerals that you need in that window that you're eating, that eating window then that could be problematic and sometimes even the social and lifestyle disruption when you've got a birthday party or something that you wanna be part of. That could maybe lead to some isolation or you know, but you can adjust that. However, you wanna make sure that if you are doing intermittent fasting, you really the time needs to be the same time every day because your body gets on a circadian rhythm and it's gonna be most beneficial if you can keep that schedule.
Speaker 1:But again, we talked about the overeating. You wanna make sure that you're taking less calories still, even during that eight-hour timeframe if you're wanting to lose weight. Sometimes impact, physical performance can be problematic because you're tired, you don't have some of that food, that fuel, that immediate fuel on board. But as time goes on, your body will compensate and it will be able to pull on those different resources that you need. So just allow it to take some time.
Speaker 1:But there is a risk of eating disorders. That is something to really be thinking about when you start restricting eating and patterns and binge eating and those kinds of things that psychologically can take a hit. That's why a doctor being involved in this can be really important as well and sometimes, like with hormones, that can either help balance your hormones or it could actually make them out of balance. And so, depending on what's going on in your life and the different the menstrual cycles and things that especially if you have your regular menstrual cycles, that could you just need to work with your doctor with that. Again, intermittent fasting isn't suitable for everyone, especially if you're breastfeeding or you're pregnant. Those kind of things underlying medical conditions may be, or you're underweight or malnourished. Those kind of things are gonna be something that you're really gonna have to take a look at as well. But long-term, we're starting to see a lot more research for long-term effects and overall it has been a more positive approach to losing weight and all of the benefits that you can get while you're going through this process. So, again, it doesn't fit everybody's needs, but it might be something that you can try.
Speaker 1:Amber, I would give it a try. Give it at least a month to two months and be consistent at that, and you might be surprised what you find. I'd love to hear back from you what you find. So I thank you for your question. That was a great one. Do you guys have any questions?
Speaker 2:No, that was. I did a nice thing there. I did not jump in and ask you when I wanted to and you ended up answering the question, because I was curious about the if you had to do it at the same time every day. So I was very patient. I sat with my discomfort. That was very nice.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that. Yeah, so that was great. I appreciate the two of you and the questions that you had and the callers that came in. I think you answered those questions very well, so.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Trisha.
Speaker 1:Awesome. So next week we're gonna talk about the four levels of consciousness and I think that will be really exciting. I think you're gonna really love this one, tony.
Speaker 2:I like it. I'm excited, yeah, I am, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:See you next week.
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