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18. Hydration Hacks: Water Intake Strategies for Summer and Ultramarathon Hydration

June 10, 2024 Trisha Jamison

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Can the desert climate actually teach you about self-care? Join us on the latest episode of the Q&A Files as Trisha Jamison, Dr. Jeff, and Tony Overbay bring personal stories to the forefront, from Dr. Jeff's and my upcoming trip to Zihuatanejo, Mexico, to Tony's experiences adapting to Arizona’s scorching heat. These anecdotes set the stage for a deeper conversation about the fundamentals of self-care, family time, and the intricacies of adjusting to new and challenging environments.

Ever wondered how much water you should really be drinking? Our discussion shifts to crucial hydration tips just in time for summer. Dr. Jeff decodes the science behind daily water consumption, explaining how caffeine can dehydrate you, while Trisha reveals how thirst can masquerade as hunger. Tony teases his future running tales, aiming to keep you hydrated and motivated for those hot months ahead. We'll equip you with practical advice to ensure you’re drinking enough, monitoring your hydration, and understanding the role of water in overall body health.

Ready to hear about the extreme side of hydration? Tony plunges us into the intense world of ultramarathons, sharing his firsthand experiences with hydration and the perilous condition of hyponatremia. Learn how he meticulously manages his water and sodium intake during grueling races and the post-race recovery process. Dr. Jeff also provides expert insights into the cognitive impacts of dehydration and offers practical solutions for maintaining optimal hydration. We wrap up with a mix of humor and wisdom, highlighting how staying hydrated can make a world of difference in both everyday life and extreme physical challenges. Don’t miss out on these invaluable tips and engaging stories!

Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to the Q&A Files, the ultimate health and wellness playground. I'm your host, tricia Jamieson, a board-certified functional nutritionist and lifestyle practitioner, ready to lead you through a world of health discoveries. Here we dive into a tapestry of disease prevention, to nutrition, exercise, mental health and building strong relationships, all spiced with diverse perspectives. It's not just a podcast, it's a celebration of health, packed with insights and a twist of fun. Welcome aboard the Q&A Files, where your questions ignite our vibrant discussions and lead to a brighter you. Welcome, wellness warriors, to another episode of the Q&A Files. I'm Tricia Jamieson and I'm here with my two amazing co-hosts, dr Jeff and Tony Overbay, and we have a great show in store for you today, and also a fantastic question from Katie. But before we tackle her question, we're going to start with our celebrations. So, dr Jeff and Tony, what's new and exciting in your world?

Speaker 2:

I've got one. I've got one.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So we have been looking at Trisha and I have been looking at places to go on a vacation for quite a while, but we've had such a busy life with a wedding and other things going on that we haven't made time for ourselves to be able to go on a little short vacation. So we finally, with my daughter Michaela's help, got a new vacation place picked out and we are going to Zihuatanehu, Mexico, for a week Wow, Coming up. So we're excited about that and I'm really excited to be able to get out of town. So it'll be fun.

Speaker 1:

And I was a little concerned actually, when he said Mexico, how come? Because I'm like, ooh, I you know, is that going to be safe, or is? It going to be okay, so he assured me that you won't be running alone. I'll be going with you, but it's going to be relatively safe, so happy to hear that.

Speaker 3:

Have either of you ever drank the water and got problems?

Speaker 2:

No no. And they highly recommend it. I know what to do.

Speaker 3:

Okay, well, and I was going to ask you, dr Jeff, we were talking about this over the weekend because it turns out we're about three hours from a place called Puerto Penasco, mexico, which is the Arizona beach is the joke, and we love the beach. And then we were just talking about the whole concept of drinking the water, and then the question was brought up of do people that are native to those parts do they drink it, and is it just their gut biome has adapted or no?

Speaker 2:

I believe their gut biome adapts Okay. Definitely I think even they can get sick from it. But people get better and usually people don't have any long-term side effects from the drinking bad water in those areas Interesting Okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, that must be really hard, tony, when I think about where you have lived for, however many years, and now going to a desert. That's got to be quite a change for you living, you know, waterfront beach area so close to palm trees. I guess you've got you know totally different atmosphere and arid.

Speaker 3:

I'm enjoying cactus yeah. It's a dry heat. I've learned to say that, so that's a good thing, yeah.

Speaker 1:

What is the temperature there right now?

Speaker 3:

So we played golf over the weekend and it was, it was a hundred and honestly there was a really nice breeze. So then I thought this is no problem at all, and then a couple of times we would turn a corner and the breeze would be gone, and then it was so hot.

Speaker 1:

And you remember to wear a hat this time, right.

Speaker 3:

I wore a hat, I wore sunscreen, I mean. So I actually had an amazing time. So then in my mind, so it's super easy, but then there'll be another time I'm sure where I'll get sunburned, but I do think it's interesting. We've gone to the doctor a time or two and both doctors have stressed the importance of staying hydrated, and one of the doctors was telling me and my wife likes to joke that she only gets her fluids through soda, and so this doctor was saying you really, really need to drink a lot of water, especially there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what they were saying Now, now is this beach that you're talking about, the Arizona beach that you're saying is that on the sea of Cortez.

Speaker 3:

I know nothing about geography, which is why I became a therapist. So let me, um, let me look that up real quick. It's called Porta Pinasco and I don't know what. I it's so funny. Now I'm Googling and I'm not even sure what to Google. I started Googling the word PayPal, which I'm not really sure why. Okay, here we go. It is drumroll, please. It is on the, it is blue, it is water on the map and that water is, as I back out, it is located I am super far back in the Gulf of California.

Speaker 2:

Oh okay, oh interesting.

Speaker 3:

Is that a thing? So look at you.

Speaker 1:

You don't have to be homesick after all.

Speaker 2:

No, isn't that nice. Yeah, there we go. Okay. Okay so that's my celebration, Tony. What's yours?

Speaker 3:

Okay, mine was that I was able to delay having to share a celebration for a moment and I thought that it would be passed over because I could not think of one.

Speaker 2:

How about that? You didn't get a?

Speaker 3:

sunburn. I did. I did get a sunburn. My son and I played well together in golf. He's incredibly good and I'm not, so we played scramble. I picked the teams and he was on my team and we won. So we played scramble.

Speaker 1:

I picked the teams and he was on my team and we won.

Speaker 3:

So there we go, there you go. Yeah, huge celebration. Is he still flying? That's my son-in-law and he is yeah, he's yeah. He's getting that the commercial hours in. So oh, that's great. I know it's kind of fun Okay.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's great Trisha celebration. Yeah, so we are. Our daughter got married and everything went really well. It was really fun. It was cold, it was very cold, we had snow for some pictures. Wow, it was beautiful. So it just kind of depended where we were in elevation, depending if we had white stuff around us or green, but everything turned out beautiful. And they went to Hawaii for a week and so they came back. Both of them got sick, but I don't think it was the water they drank, thank goodness.

Speaker 2:

But they had a good time.

Speaker 1:

We are going to talk about water today, so that's a nice segue, yeah, and our question is from Katie and she says hi, I'm a patient of Dr J. You guys recently touched on the importance of water in your life, but I'm wondering if you dive further for summer, how much water should people drink Kids? Does the amount depend on weight? Does it differ for seasons? What really happens to our mind and body when we are dehydrated, and how soon can we fix a dehydration problem? I personally just drink coffee all day and struggle with water intake, but I think hearing it discussed would help us all a lot. Loving the podcast, thank you, so appreciate that, katie. Now, this is such a relevant topic, especially with summer approaching, and I would just like to open this up for all of us to discuss. So what are some thoughts that you guys have? And then we'll just kind of all.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm looking forward to hearing what Tony has to say about water intake during an ultra marathon, but I have a couple of things that I have thoughts of real quick.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and while you do that, I'm going to, I'm going to walk away. Dr Jeff and Tricia, I want you to know I this is giving me such inspiration. I have a book that I've I point at on my desk a lot that says you're not sick, you're thirsty, and it's a doctor who spent 20 years of his life in researching hydration and and the body. And I knocked it behind a shelf and it's been there for about two years. So if I don't come back, I've been eaten by some sort of spider or something like that.

Speaker 1:

But I'm going to go, I'm going to find it Okay, exactly Right. We'll call 911 for you, yay.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So the first thing I was going to mention that there's some kind of standards for water intake that I tell people. First of all, if everything is normal and you're not out in the sun and the standard water intake is for every pound, you should drink a half an ounce of water. So if you're 150 pounds, you should drink 75 ounces of water per day, and that's just kind of a good rule of thumb. But it really matters what you're doing and what your environment is, and so on.

Speaker 2:

So another kind of quick rule of thumb is if your urine is concentrated and dark or dark yellow, then you're not drinking enough, and if it's barely got any color to it at all, then you're probably doing about right. So that's something you can watch really carefully. And if you're not urinating every three to four hours, then you're also probably dehydrated. So you need to be able to keep moving on the hydration, and a lot of people in my experience, especially women, they don't like to be interrupted with their day by having to go to the bathroom a lot, so they will withhold their water and then they will end up with a urinary tract infection, and these are things that I see often. Also, the whole coffee intake piece. People that drink a lot of coffee instead of water will also eliminate more fluids through their urine by drinking coffee, because caffeine is a diuretic. So my recommendation is to take for every one cup of coffee you should drink two cups of water. So those are a couple of quick guidelines.

Speaker 1:

Tricia, what do you got to say about it? Yeah, so I love that.

Speaker 3:

Can I ask a question real quick yeah?

Speaker 2:

I didn't get eaten.

Speaker 3:

Okay, because Dr Jeff used the phrase caffeine's a diuretic, and I often say that because it makes me sound really smart.

Speaker 2:

Yeah more really smart?

Speaker 3:

Well, not at this, though, and I know that that means that you what repel water, you go through water. What does a diuretic do? I've always wanted to know.

Speaker 2:

A diuretic increases urine output.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So let's just say, if you're using a medicine for the reason of being a diuretic, there's one in particular we use quite often, called furosemide, and furosemide will probably increase your output of urine by three times what you normally would, and so it just really kicks it out. So I tell people for the six hours after you've taken that medicine that you better stay fairly close to porcelain or you're going to be having an accident, so it will push the water out. So that's what diuretics do is they increase water output? So it will push the water out. So that's what diuretics do is they increase water output.

Speaker 3:

So do you know, as far as like, when people say caffeine is a diuretic or a cup of coffee or a can of soda, do you know how much more that does? Yes, how much.

Speaker 2:

Okay, Because what? Just like I just said, if you drink one cup of coffee, you need two cups of water to replace what?

Speaker 3:

you get rid of Interesting, okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

So it doubles the amount of water that you remove from your system by drinking caffeine.

Speaker 1:

Good clarification there. So do you want to share some thoughts, tony, and then I'll share some thoughts.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you go ahead. I mean, I'm just going to end up telling running stories. So yeah, I can save those.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Well we can't wait to hear your running stories. Well, I think the first first up water isn't just good for keeping you cool and quenching your thirst. Something that's really important to remember is oftentimes, when you're feeling hungry, you're actually thirsty, and so if you drink eight to 10 ounces of water when you first start feeling hungry, a lot of times that's going to not only give you extra water and hydrate your body, but it's going to help you feel full and that a lot of times you think that you're hungry but you're really thirsty and your body is actually asking you to.

Speaker 2:

Oh gosh, I know that's true for me a lot. In fact, I'm feeling really thirsty right now.

Speaker 1:

The thing about water. It's essential for your whole entire body, from your brain to your toes and, of course, everything in between, so you have better digestion, it regulates your body temperature, it keeps you alert. You know, the more water that you can consume, the more your inside of your body will. Thank you, and I liked what Dr Jeff just talked about is. A good rule of thumb is a half an ounce of water per pound. So if you're, just like he said, 150 pounds, you know you want to consume about 75 ounces of water. Now, if it's hot, that is going to change. You know you don't want to turn into a human raisin and so you want to make sure that you're incorporating much more water, depending on if it's hot outside. And also you talked about. Your question was children. So, depending on the sizes of the children and their age, six to eight cups of water could be really beneficial for them, as they're burning, running around like little tiny tornadoes. So that is going to be Doesn't that?

Speaker 2:

does that weight? I think that weight to ounces of water intake. I think that holds true for pediatric and for children as well, definitely, but it's just.

Speaker 1:

sometimes it's hard to you know if you can kind of just focus on. When kids come in from hot summer activity and they want a popsicle, you ask them to have a glass of water first and then they can have a popsicle. So you know, sometimes when you're dehydrated you have a lot of forgetfulness, you're confused, you get a killer headache. Sometimes your energy levels are so low that you know you just find yourself staring at a wall. Those are all signs that you're not getting enough water. So feeling dehydrated can lead to some pretty gnarly health issues, not only severe skin, dry skin issues, but kidney stones.

Speaker 1:

So we want to really incorporate drinking as much water as you can and I like Jeff's, for every cup of coffee you want to incorporate two cups of water. So I have a lot of people say well, I don't really like the taste of water. And one of the things that I like to share is you know, especially first thing in the morning, if you were to cut a half a lemon and squeeze that in, even in warm water and I know that may not taste good, even in cold water, is fine, but that really lubricates your liver and it just really does a nice. You find yourself voiding first thing in the morning, which is a great way to start your day, so that is a great way. Instead of reaching for your cup of coffee, having your half a lemon water and eight to 10 ounces of water would be really, really beneficial. To just start your day off would be really really beneficial to just start your day off.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, you brought up the kidney stone thing. Yes, and I have a good friend who's a urologist and he told me that if people would drink enough water he'd be out of a job.

Speaker 2:

So, this is a really important thing. I mean, I'm a kidney stone former myself and I've had some trouble with that and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, because having a kidney stone is terrible. But I haven't had one since I started drinking 80 ounces of water or more per day, and once you kind of reach that threshold as an adult, your chances of developing a kidney stone are much less. So there's a kind of quick rule of thumb for an adult, and that's 80 ounces minimum.

Speaker 1:

Well, and we have found that soda drinkers actually form more kidney stones, and so that is something to really pay attention to as well. But one of the things that I tell my clients that are not water drinkers add some spice to it. You can add herbs, you can put fruit in your water and infuse your water with lots of different. You know whether it's lemon and cucumber, or strawberries and raspberries. It really can add some nice flavors, so that could be really helpful.

Speaker 2:

And I think there's dispensers nowadays that have these kind of infusers in them so that you can kind of pack in some fruit or vegetables or whatever you like, and and then have it just sit there and not necessarily, you know, get chunks of berries that come through your straw, so those are nice too they're delicious and especially, if you like, diffuse overnight and it's like they have this center section.

Speaker 1:

You put all the fruit in it and then through the night it just kind of really makes your water just very tasty in the morning and then you've got this delicious, you know, refreshing drink throughout the day. So that could be something that could add some nice flavor to your water intake. So another thing that Katie spoke about was caffeine. Now Jeff talked about caffeine and how that is a diuretic. I would like to go just a little bit further and talk about caffeine. So, while caffeine can certainly perk up a person's morning boost and give them a morning boost, it comes with a set of challenges that I just want to talk about just briefly.

Speaker 1:

Even though a person may really love their coffees, teas and other beverages, it does some interesting things to our brain. Caffeine actually blocks adenosine. Adenosine is a neurotransmitter that promotes sleep, which makes a person feel more alert initially. But here's the twist Over time the brain compensates by creating more adenosine receptors. Now this means a person becomes more sensitive to adenosine, leading to increased feelings of tiredness once the caffeine wears off. Increased feelings of tiredness once the caffeine wears off. So it's like borrowing energy from later in the day, only to pay it back with high interest.

Speaker 1:

So this adaptation leads to a tolerance for caffeine, so a person needs more and more of it to feel awake, which can shift their baseline level of energy lower than it was before they even started drinking caffeine regularly. So the frequent coffee drinkers instead of enhancing energy, coffee just brings them back to their normal state. It's a bit like chasing the dragon, as the old saying goes, and it's not like overlooking that. When a person tries to cut back, to skip their coffee or other beloved caffeine beverage, they might face withdrawal symptoms like headaches, irritability and even depression, and it's a tough cycle to break. But understanding these effects can help manage caffeine habits more effectively, aiming for a more balanced approach. I just wanted to kind of share that and I would love to actually do an episode down the road on just caffeine, because I think there's so much to learn from it and there's so much information out there about that subject.

Speaker 2:

I see a lot of people with chronic headaches that are really caffeine-induced and they think that they just have migraines. And then once we finally, over time, wean them off of their caffeine, imagine that the headache goes away. Or their chronic headache that we've been treating with so many other medications all of a sudden they don't need them anymore. So it's a very interesting dichotomy.

Speaker 1:

Exactly so I think that that will be a good thing to address later. Okay, Tony, what are some things that you learned when you were training for marathons and trying to stay hydrated?

Speaker 3:

Well, you know what's interesting is. I just got on a little. I went down a what a rabbit hole of a concept called hyponatremia. Are you familiar with that one? Dr, Jeff, yeah, so that's the one that in the ultra marathon world, which is the distances over a marathon, and so, especially when you get up into the 100K and 100 mile distances or the 24 hour events or those sorts of things, where, if there's ever going to be a fatality, it comes from hyponatremia, which is becoming overhydrated and low salt.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a low sodium condition which can completely mess up your muscles and especially your heart. And if you don't have those electrolytes on board, then those things don't function.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so that's the one that would always be in the back of the ultramarathon runner's head, and so we would carry things like salt tablets and you really are having to take your nutrition seriously and you can hallucinate if you aren't staying on top of your hydration and and so the the funny story that I think first is that after my first it was literally after my first hundred mile race. In that race you would have to weigh about every 10 miles and if you got below I think it was 10% of your body weight, then they would pull you from the race because you were you were very, very under hydrated at that point. And and then if you were above your body weight, they would pull you because that would be the hyponatremia or the over hydrated or the body's not eliminating. But what I think was really interesting is every, every time, but the first time it was such a shock was I would come into my office the day after an ultra marathon and I would have, so I probably would have lost five or six pounds of fluid during the race. And then you get home and you're exhausted and you fall asleep and you wake up a sore or the next day and you have to walk down the stairs backwards because you can't engage your quads and all these things that make it sound so much fun. But then I would go to work and it was as if my body held on to every bit of fluid it would get for about another day or two, because it's it's almost like, is this guy going to do this again? And so then finally, if maybe on a Tuesday or Wednesday of that week, then it's like your body says I think we're good, and so then I would have to go to the bathroom every 15 minutes for the next 24 hours.

Speaker 3:

And as a therapist, that was some of the most miserable times of my life is just the discomfort of having to sit there in a room and not be able to. You can't hold it for 50 minutes. Come on being aware of your electrolyte levels, and that part was really fascinating to me. And and when your body's so raw on uh, you know, when you've run through all your I guess glycogen stores and you're taking the jails and the food but your body can only only digest a certain amount, I think that's where you start to see almost this miracle of the way the body works and how you can feel energy so quickly when you take in calories, or I just think that was fascinating.

Speaker 3:

But the bad version of that is the first time I did a charity event and I ran 24 hours around my kids the track of my kids' school. That one was one, jeff, when you were saying about the dark colored urine, I had a part where I really was starting to feel a little bit loopy and I had just been going all day and it was a warm day and you get out of this. They had a limo and they had a band playing Rocky and it was the middle school kids and it was such a ran with them all day and it was a highlight, but I wasn't staying on top of nutrition or hydration and then by that night it was I was my urine color was not very good at all.

Speaker 3:

And then there was, you know, there was the does he need to be pulled, and we had a doctor on staff and you know, and the the ultra runner mentality of me was like it's just a little scratch, I can make it through this, and I was able to then slow my pace down, get a lot of fluid in me and electrolytes and then finish the race. But for a little while that was odd to see what was happening.

Speaker 1:

Wow. So, Tony, quick question when you were running that 24-hour race, did you have breaks in between?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the way I would do that was we would have. Yeah, we just had a table. And so I mean I think that year I did 111 miles, so whatever, 444 laps. And so I mean I would grab, I had a table that was full of food and electrolytes and that sort of thing. So it wasn't a fact that I didn't have access to it, but I just would get caught up in talking and and you know, I've run them with the kids, and then they were there after school with the track team and then at night they came we had food trucks.

Speaker 1:

So you never even went to the restroom? No, I went to the restroom a ton.

Speaker 3:

I went to the restroom a ton.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it was right off of the track.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I actually had access to the famed teacher's restroom, so I got to see what that was like.

Speaker 1:

It was pretty nice I know?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly, it's a big moment, um so, but that.

Speaker 1:

But that's really the um, but I was looking at this book, though, here it is, and I'm glad that we're talking about it Cause I went and found it.

Speaker 3:

It's been behind, yeah, and it's a doctor I don't I don't know how to pronounce his last name, it's a.

Speaker 3:

But it's a great book.

Speaker 3:

I mean I do recommend it and there's a part in here that I it's funny, I worried that I just made this up, but he has a section where he's talking about how hydration impacts mental health and there's just some really interesting things. Feeling anxious, there's a perceptive way in which the frontal part of the brain can reflect its concern over water shortage and its domain of activity. And he said I can't imagine a more eloquent way for the thinking brain to reflect its anxiety about dehydration in the body of its delinquent owner. Obviously, when the body wanted water, it must have been given other beverages that did not satisfy its real needs. So he talks so much about your body's communicating to you these continued requests for hydration that then your body goes into just the you know it's trying to become balanced, and that he kind of maintains that most, every, every mental health disorder and and all kinds of things are there because of that imbalance of the body trying to get back to homeostasis. So I'm curious, dr Jeff, do you feel like that holds water, pun intended.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, and in fact, when it, when a person gets in trouble and I think that was one of Katie's questions about like, if you get behind, how can you get back in place? And when a person gets behind severely, one of the first thing that goes is your thirst response Wow, so, which is really counterproductive. But that's what happens is so you don't recognize you're thirsty. When you're, you know your body's screaming for water, and so that's when medical intervention is really important. When you're behind enough that your brain is not recognizing your need for water and you're actually, sometimes people get delirious. They have, like Tricia was saying, hallucinations and other things that happen where they just don't act themselves. And when a person is in that place, they really need medical attention and probably IV hydration and some immediate cooling, because sometimes this is a heat stroke situation, and so when you get IV hydration, that is almost always a salt solution, so almost never do we just give straight water into the IV.

Speaker 1:

So why is that important?

Speaker 2:

Because when you're giving, if you give straight water, first of all, the cells of your body are basically in a salt solution already in your bloodstream. So if you put straight water in there, those blood cells are going to recognize the osmolality situation, which is where the salt surrounding is going to feel like there's no salt there, which there won't be, and all the salt inside the cells will push the water into the cell and it'll explode the cell. So you'll actually blow up a cell by if you don't have a good what's called isotonic IV solution and so you have to put a salt solution in the IV. It's very important to do that.

Speaker 2:

The other things we put in there is some glucose usually, or dextrose, and there's several other things we do, which is a sugar, and that way your body will get sugar and salt and things to regularly hydrate a person's body rather than if you just did straight water, like your stomach can take.

Speaker 2:

Your stomach can do just fine with straight water, but your IV or your bloodstream can't, so it has to have a salt solution to do it, and almost always we do a normal saline solution, which is the same solution that our body normally has. Now there are times that we need to use more salt than normal if you're in a hyponatremic situation, for instance, like you were saying, and so we actually do a hypertonic or more salt than normal, and so this is all figured out when you come in in that situation. So immediately, though, you're going to get a normal saline with maybe a little bit of sugar in the IV, and then that will help normalize things and then they can vary it from there. But the bottom line is, if you're not noticing that you're thirsty and you're getting delirious and things are not working right or you're not putting out your it's time to go to the ER, right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely Well. One thing that is nice is most of the time, when you are somewhat dehydrated, you can quickly hydrate yourself, and by drinking several glasses of water it doesn't take long to hydrate yourself. The other thing is there's a product at Costco. It's called IV something.

Speaker 2:

Hydration Hydration.

Speaker 1:

Lots of different flavors that you can have. That has a lot of the electrolytes and things that you need. We have a daughter. That her body.

Speaker 3:

Are you talking about that one? I mean, this is what I'm doing right now. That's the one liquid IV.

Speaker 1:

Right, Good job Liquid IV, but she she used to have to have IVs like through her arm, and now she can consume these drinks and it really does a nice job for her as well.

Speaker 3:

So Can I tell one hilarious anecdote before we're done?

Speaker 2:

Yes. As long as it's hilarious.

Speaker 1:

Well, I guess, I guess you'll be the judge of that.

Speaker 3:

But so here here I am, or insert the laugh track, but some doing the running around the track and then. But the person who ended up being dehydrated was my wife and my family. We talk about this story often because I don't know if you've heard this, but when you will hear about checking for I mean, I'm sure you guys have but listeners but to check and see if you're dehydrated, you'll hear that you can pinch your your skin and see if it stays. But I mean, I've never seen that before because that's that's some severe dehydration. And it was one of the years that we were done and after I would finish the 24 hour run, there was a 5k and I would just lay there in the sun and bask while the thing finished and we do the award ceremony, and then it was like man never felt more, just satisfied and tired and it's time to go home and we're walking off the track.

Speaker 3:

One year, and I think that year I did 125 miles or something and uh, and all of a sudden my wife was seems to be stumbling a little bit and I kind of look at her and then I just say, are you okay? And she says you know, I don't think I had enough to drink. And so then we made this joke about like okay, we'll pinch your hand, the top of your hand. And she did it, and it's the first time I've ever seen somebody. And it just stayed, the skin just stayed, and then it was within about 10 seconds, she just goes down, she passed out, and so yeah, and so then everybody rushes over and I can't bend down at that point because my calves are all cramped up, and so I'm like trying to stretch there, yeah, but and she ended up being fine.

Speaker 3:

But I just thought that was. It was so wild to have heard that that's what it what happens and then to actually see it it was. It was really bizarre.

Speaker 1:

So that that, yeah, I have heard that before. So that's interesting, that that is really a that's real.

Speaker 3:

Very real.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, Katie, I hope that helps.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So next week we're going to dive into the lighter side of wellness with a whole episode dedicated to Tony.

Speaker 3:

Humor. I can't wait. Yes, it's good for everything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the lighter side can be the best medicine, helping us manage stress, connect with others and even boost our immune system. So make sure you join us as we unpack the benefit of what Humor, and we're not going to take life too seriously, so it's going to be fun and, who knows, you just might end up laughing your way to a better hell.

Speaker 3:

Hey, I will. I will unveil I have my favorite two line jokes ever, because I did a episode a long time ago on humor and therapy and I have a list of jokes that are my fit.

Speaker 1:

No that we have to keep Next time, absolutely Well, I didn't know if you were going to kind of give a little teaser there.

Speaker 3:

I can give one, I can give one, I can do one Okay, and these are. I found these it was like 52-line jokes that were deemed to be some of the funniest, but you can be the judge of that. One of my favorites is okay. Now you remember.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I can't remember that is funny that, uh, can I. Okay, I can't remember. Um, okay, that is really funny.

Speaker 3:

Now this is my problem is uh, remember the jokes. Now, I don't want to butcher it, Okay, so tune in next week, as you'll hear this hilarious joke.

Speaker 1:

There's the teaser right there All right. So, I hope this helps Katie. By adding more water to your daily regimen, you'll keep your mind sharper, your body energized and your skin glowing throughout the whole summer. So thanks for tuning in and loving the podcast. We all love to hear those kind of nice comments, but keep your questions coming. As you know, we're going to answer them. So thank you, tony and Dr Jeff, for being here today, and can't wait to see you next week. It's going gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2:

See you later, everybody.

Speaker 3:

Thanks everybody.

Speaker 1:

Thanks for tuning in to the Q&A Files, delighted to share today's gems of wisdom with you. Your questions light up our show, fueling the engaging dialogues that make our community extra special. Keep sending your questions to trishajamesoncoaching at gmailcom. Your curiosity is our compass. Please hit subscribe, spread the word and let's grow the circle of insight and community together. I'm Trisha Jamieson, signing off. Stay curious, keep thriving and keep smiling, and I'll catch you on the next episode.

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