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As the sun set on another day, I couldn't help but strum a few chords in remembrance of the legendary Dickie Betts, setting the stage for our latest episode that's bursting with raw emotion and hearty chuckles. We've got Nick, Dan, CJ, Sean, and Will in the studio, contributing their unique slices of life to our eclectic conversation pie. Sean peels back layers of his past to reveal the gritty road to addiction recovery, while CJ recalls a baseball game narrative that's more than just hits and runs. Prepare to ride a rollercoaster of emotions, from the absurdity of a broken pair of sunglasses to the poignant tales of personal battles and triumphs.
Our chat meanders through the dusty trails of personal anecdotes, touching on the transformative power of woodworking and the stark realities of homelessness. One minute we're laughing at the folly of a drunken misadventure, the next we're somberly reflecting on the raw strength needed to survive as a train hopper. The rich tapestry of our stories underscores the diverse paths we've walked, with each thread weaving into the next to create an honest portrayal of life's complexities. Amid the storytelling, we share some clever tool hacks and woodworking tips, adding a practical edge to our heartfelt exchanges.
Nearing the end of our journey, we lace up our cleats for a venture into the world of sports, reliving the glory days of a coworker's Division I college football career cut short by injury. The intimate moments continue as we probe the sobering aspects of addiction and recovery, discussing the difficult decisions one faces when confronting their own demons. To wrap up, we pull back the curtain on the magic of podcasting, giving you a sneak peek into the creation of our electronic-style background tracks that underscore our tales. Grab your headphones, and join us for an episode where laughter, tears, and life lessons converge into one unforgettable narrative.
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It's really cool try it..
Leave us your best joke https://www.speakpipe.com/IveBeenTaskedWith
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As the sun set on another day, I couldn't help but strum a few chords in remembrance of the legendary Dickie Betts, setting the stage for our latest episode that's bursting with raw emotion and hearty chuckles. We've got Nick, Dan, CJ, Sean, and Will in the studio, contributing their unique slices of life to our eclectic conversation pie. Sean peels back layers of his past to reveal the gritty road to addiction recovery, while CJ recalls a baseball game narrative that's more than just hits and runs. Prepare to ride a rollercoaster of emotions, from the absurdity of a broken pair of sunglasses to the poignant tales of personal battles and triumphs.
Our chat meanders through the dusty trails of personal anecdotes, touching on the transformative power of woodworking and the stark realities of homelessness. One minute we're laughing at the folly of a drunken misadventure, the next we're somberly reflecting on the raw strength needed to survive as a train hopper. The rich tapestry of our stories underscores the diverse paths we've walked, with each thread weaving into the next to create an honest portrayal of life's complexities. Amid the storytelling, we share some clever tool hacks and woodworking tips, adding a practical edge to our heartfelt exchanges.
Nearing the end of our journey, we lace up our cleats for a venture into the world of sports, reliving the glory days of a coworker's Division I college football career cut short by injury. The intimate moments continue as we probe the sobering aspects of addiction and recovery, discussing the difficult decisions one faces when confronting their own demons. To wrap up, we pull back the curtain on the magic of podcasting, giving you a sneak peek into the creation of our electronic-style background tracks that underscore our tales. Grab your headphones, and join us for an episode where laughter, tears, and life lessons converge into one unforgettable narrative.
Comments thoughts requests slanders... all welcome here. Anonymous's welcome lol
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Speaker 2:While we're waiting for Dan, I'd like to throw out a rest in peace for guitar legend Dickie Betts, writer of Ramblin' man and Blue Sky and many other songs From the Allman Brothers. I'll miss you, bro. She didn't play a couple times. Oh, it happened today. It is news Wow.
Speaker 1:I don't feel like we should really talk about anything, because it's not recording yet.
Speaker 2:He fucking said it was recording.
Speaker 1:Oh, it is.
Speaker 2:He said it was.
Speaker 1:I can't tell because the sunlight is hitting the buttons.
Speaker 2:That's why I wear my sunglasses. It comes right through there.
Speaker 1:So I lost my sunglasses the other day. I lost them for about 26 hours right and my coworker found them in the other day. I lost them for about 26 hours right and my co-worker found them in the box truck. I had them back for about two hours before I ended up shattering the lens, oh Jesus.
Speaker 2:So it was like you were supposed to lose those glasses.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was about to say would it have been better not to have found the glasses, or to find them and then?
Speaker 2:And then break them yourself.
Speaker 3:Hey guys, who do we have in studio today? Nick, everybody sound off. We got Dan, we got.
Speaker 2:CJ we don't have Sean. Hello, there he is we got Sean in studio.
Speaker 3:Sean, who are you?
Speaker 5:I'm just some white guy from Baltimore.
Speaker 2:Hey, that's what I said.
Speaker 5:That's what CJ said.
Speaker 3:We got Will in studio. What's up Will in studio? Will is a construction aficionado. What are you? An engineer?
Speaker 4:I am just a surveyor nowadays, just.
Speaker 3:Only just.
Speaker 2:I have a whole floor of people doing surveys in my building For money anyway. You shaking the rod or are you holding the other part?
Speaker 4:It's all robotic now and then it's a one-man thing.
Speaker 2:Really One man. They still do three-man for the state, but I think it's so. They can just pay people.
Speaker 4:For some stuff, it's good. You can stake a lot faster with a couple guys One guy running the thing and then somebody's working putting the nails, whatever Gotcha.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right on, but one man. Yeah, I guess do they try and put you on smaller jobs or it just takes a long time to get shit done.
Speaker 3:Will and Sean. Sean is. I don't want to just give away Sean's background here, but what is your background, sean? What makes you very unique out of all the men that are here at this podcast? Not a damn thing.
Speaker 5:My asshole.
Speaker 3:Come on, man, you can't be, shy.
Speaker 1:He has he's.
Speaker 3:Would you call yourself a recovered addict?
Speaker 5:I'd say I'm still in recovery.
Speaker 3:Can you hold the mic up to your mouth? I'd say I'm still in recovery. Can you hold the mic up to your mouth?
Speaker 5:I'd say I'm still in recovery, like I don't do drugs anymore, but like it's always a battle, always a battle, like at the end of the day, it's always going to be a battle.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my dad is still fighting it. He's fucking damn near 75 years old. So yeah it's one of those daily things, yeah, one day at a time.
Speaker 3:They say I wanted CJ and Nick to ask you some questions about what happened. I have a couple of questions from the audience that I wanted to ask you. I'll pull those out. Cj, let's get into sports. Let's get the basics.
Speaker 2:Sports. Okay, I thought this was a very special episode. No, it's not that special.
Speaker 3:It's not that special. It's sports, quickly with sports. And then we're going to get to Nick's tool hack.
Speaker 2:It is going to be real quick with sports. I went to the game yesterday. Amazing time, baseball, baseball. What other game's happening right now?
Speaker 3:I mean it's a valid question, I think.
Speaker 2:Yes, I went to the baseball league orioles. Uh, we're playing the minnesota twins. Some guy I forget I've actually forget his name. His last name, suarez, though, started his first game in the major league since 2017. He's been playing over in japan aced it out for like six innings, killed it, only let up one run uh and uh gunner had a. A first swing of the game was a home run, so it started off 1-0. And Cedric Mullins had the walk-off at the end. I saw that that's his first ever walk-off.
Speaker 2:That surprised the hell out of me, yeah.
Speaker 3:Who were they playing?
Speaker 2:They were playing the Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 1:In other news about sports. Did you see that not only has Gus Edwards gone to the Chargers, not only has gus edwards gone to the chargers, not only has greg roman gone to the chargers, but jk dobbins has gone to the chargers?
Speaker 2:I did see that and I have to believe that uh, with the old gus bus, is a little pissed off about it. Oh, I wouldn't, I would not, I mean he was like oh yeah, I want to be the starting guy number one.
Speaker 1:Uh, eckerson's out, you know he's no longer there like nope you're gonna bring the guy that's been on top of me my entire fucking career are you kidding me, although he'll probably get hurt and gus will be starting again anyway, yeah I have a co-worker who's a chargers fan and um he's he's not that happy that uh, that this is happening, but he was like I kind of expected it since hardball took over right, so like it's a whole family affair thing, the slack and, like you know, the uh, the bits and pieces.
Speaker 2:Just like hold over pieces now roman was with jim hardball in san francisco too, wasn't he? I believe so. So he's, there's playoff, uh, hockey and going on, and I don't care. If you guys do email me and I'll try and look into it, but if you don't, I'm going to continue to not care.
Speaker 3:Okay, so I want to introduce a new feature, cj, I haven't I don't think I've told you about this yet. I sent it to Nick. You guys can actually click the link that's on our podcast and there's a link that takes you right to a record button our podcast and there's a link that takes you right to a record button. So you hit the button, you speak and you hit send. That's it. You don't have to put your email address or anything.
Speaker 2:Where do you find this button?
Speaker 3:It's on, I will have to pull up the website itself, but it's saying it isn't going to help. It's going to be in the description of the podcast.
Speaker 2:Of all of them. Yeah, all of them, anybody it's called all of them, yeah, all of them, yeah, and anybody can do that. Anybody you could uh, or sam from saskatchewan can?
Speaker 3:yeah, saskatoon, saskatchewan can do this okay, just making sure so six listeners we have in saskatoon, saskatchewan six. It says six on the website not six downloads.
Speaker 2:Just listen to six episodes. Might it might be six downloads, I don't know Either way, or just you know.
Speaker 3:if you want to say a good joke, if you've got a great joke, you can hit the button record a good joke and then we'll play it on the air. If it's good, if it's appropriate, we'll play it on the air.
Speaker 2:Or you can tell me to look into the hockey playoffs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly that's where I was going with it.
Speaker 2:I'll kind of do that, probably not too hard, but I'll kind of do it.
Speaker 3:Great, Nick. What did you have this week for a tool hack?
Speaker 1:I don't exactly know how to describe the video that I saw. So say, you have a 2x4 or a plank of wood, right? Now for a moment in next, I guess it has to be like a two by you know seven or just a two by eight is what, what will?
Speaker 3:seven and a quarter?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, seven and a half or seven and a quarter but anyway, like you know, say you're trying to measure it and it's not like an equal distance, like that you can easily break in half. So what you do is you kind of like tilt the tape measure until you get to the next closest round number that you can just easily split in half, and then you just measure each side and if it's, I guess I don't know how to. Like I said, it's a weird way to describe it.
Speaker 3:Weird hack. So you go across generally at a 90 degree angle, straight across, and you get 7 and something weird, right? On an 8 or 2 by 8. So then, in order to be able to split that in half, you would tilt the.
Speaker 1:You would tilt the tape measure to where, like, one side starts at 0 and then the other side of the tape measure ends at like eight inches, and then you just mark the fourth inch on the tape measure, on the board, basically.
Speaker 2:Okay, but you give it that sway that gives it the additional or less than that you need to actually have it be a half.
Speaker 3:You're saying you hook the tip of the measuring tape on the one side. Yeah, watching a video of it is a lot easier than trying to describe it well, it's better to watch you flounder and try to get this going on the audio. Yeah, um will. Do you have any insight on that?
Speaker 4:um, I mean it's, it's a good trick. The other thing that kind of brought to mind too is there's whenever you have any kind of fraction, if you know what it is, if you take the same top number and then just double the bottom number, that's what that half of those fractions will be.
Speaker 2:So if you're like seven-eighths, if you could hold the microphone right to your mouth.
Speaker 4:That would be.
Speaker 3:That will is the worst half it would be seven sixteenths okay, I got you so if you could, do the microphone like that, oh, like this oh my god, I can hear you now, so say what were you saying again?
Speaker 4:no, if the, the um, the top number of the fractions of whatever you have, when you need to cut that in half, you just double the number on the bottom and that's what it will end up being I have. I'm lost on that.
Speaker 3:So if you had five ace, half of that is five sixteenths well, you could do it that way, but we're talking about like quickly, yeah, yeah it definitely like.
Speaker 4:It definitely does take away any kind of thinking you have to do for it.
Speaker 3:I would say you would want to start on 10, right, not using the tip of the tape measurer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like you pull it across, you have to make sure you're using the same face of the tape that is making contact with the board. You're using the same face of the tape that is making contact with the board. You can't pull it across and then part of the tape will be hanging off and it's over-measuring the board.
Speaker 3:I told Will earlier your tool hack. I showed him the pencil tool hack.
Speaker 5:What is that?
Speaker 3:That's the pencil with the screw in the top To sharpen it kind of no yeah.
Speaker 4:Do I have to go back into my?
Speaker 3:history and play it again.
Speaker 1:It was kind of like a mechanical pencil. It was a carpenter's pencil and then the guy had a screw in the back of it and he twisted it and it kind of pushed the lead out as he used it. Yeah, that sounded pretty good. Do you want to hear it? But yeah, that sounded great. That's the only way I heard it. But yeah, that was a throwback. That was a while ago.
Speaker 3:That was a while ago. I mean, we're only on what are we? Podcast 14? 13.
Speaker 2:Lost count, but I do think that was like two or three, if I remember correctly. So, it was pretty early on.
Speaker 3:I can't stop coughing. Uh-oh, nick's getting my sickness, you're getting the COVID. I had COVID, nobody here, wants that?
Speaker 1:I don't think I'm sick it's just like I drank a soda before coming over, so my throat keeps getting coated and I just sound weird. I am currently on erythromycin.
Speaker 3:What the fuck is that? It is an antibiotic. It's called a Z-Pak why?
Speaker 2:are you on that?
Speaker 3:Well, you on that. Well, because I had covet and yeah, you're supposed to be done with that shit. I know well it's not gone yet, so he's spraying covet all over us. No, I'm, I'm on antibiotics. That's the best. You would rather me be this way than the other way that I was doing this on the phone.
Speaker 2:Cj used to do these on the phone.
Speaker 3:The first two I did on the phone, and then he's like okay, you can come over you can come over, yeah, um, so I, I, let's, let's dig into sean, how do y'all know each other?
Speaker 2:why don't we start there? How do y'all meet that guy? Um, so you do construction also, or okay?
Speaker 4:no, no, no, we've known each other for several decades. Like, yeah, I met him. Like I was like 20 or 39, now gotcha, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, he's got whales beering up for it.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you need one to loosen up. So y'all met just I guess it was after school job or just partying with party buds.
Speaker 4:The first time I ever met him was at the pool hall. I was hanging out with some other friend that he was friend of a friend.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:And yeah, so we've known each other a long time Gotcha. And you know Dan, yes, right through work stuff, oh I met Dan because I used to work at the company he works at now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Will worked there, and Will was always the kind of guy that you would talk to and he would teach you things. So he would walk me around and be like this is what this means, and Will taught me a lot about construction.
Speaker 2:He was giving you tool hacks back before. That was a thing.
Speaker 3:I've never had this many people in studio, so this is interesting.
Speaker 2:Is this the limit? Five on this board? No, I could do eight, are you sure?
Speaker 3:No, I think this is the limit at this point, because as long as everybody can hear, Will's.
Speaker 4:Tool.
Speaker 5:Hack History. She's a great dog, just you know cover your balls when you met Sean Will.
Speaker 3:Let's get some content going. When you met Sean, what state was sean in? Uh, what homeless.
Speaker 4:Cover it up, no no, when I met sean like he we're still kids. He was like, like, maybe 14 or something yeah, we're still teenagers when I first met him okay he was living with his grandfather and his mom okay, all right, sean, you validate with their microphone up in your mouth.
Speaker 3:Nice, okay, so then. So then, what occurred? What? What, uh, what got you into what? What was your drug of choice? I mean, we all partied like you know, I think, if I think sean our mutual friend that we met through like it sounds like sean partied harder than you I partied harder than a lot of people I know party animal I mean like, of course, like I used to, I used to snort opiates and stuff.
Speaker 4:You know, I was wild as shit, like I've never interveniously taken drugs. But okay, you know I went out there and gone crazy too okay, I have not done that.
Speaker 3:I did not know that. So this is great, now get out of my house. I'm'm just joking.
Speaker 5:I'm just joking.
Speaker 3:I'm messing with you.
Speaker 5:So I mean, like everybody's had like their peer pressure experiences growing up, like, oh, you know, you've never done this. All right, you got to try your first ball yet. So I mean that's cool and everything, but like those never really caused me problems per se. It's like as I got older and I started not necessarily getting high hanging out with my friends, it just became like an everyday thing and like it just all went downhill from there, honestly. So what was?
Speaker 3:your first time, your first.
Speaker 5:My first time doing opiates or I'm not this is not no. I'm sorry, sir, I don't suck dick.
Speaker 3:No, I'm saying bring it closer to your mouth. It was me trying to. It's a microphone, it needs to be spoken into. This is why we're here. It's good. I'm like when was that? When did that occur? I'm doing the blowjob motion. I'm saying put your microphone near your mouth, dude.
Speaker 5:So the first time I was ever, I guess, exposed to opiates was, like he said, through our mutual friend she would you know like give us lines or whatever.
Speaker 3:I don't know. You know I'm like no, Is that how you do that you?
Speaker 5:snorted. Yeah, that's how you snorted, like you know, like the Oxycontin 80s. Okay, do you remember those? No, they call them I don't know if you've ever been on like a pain prescription before.
Speaker 3:I have, and it was. I took two of the blue ones instead of I was supposed to do two blue and one red, and I did two reds and one blue and I was gone, and that was because my ankle was broken and that was from the hospital.
Speaker 5:Right on, right on, and I did not enjoy that experience.
Speaker 3:I don't know why anyone would do that.
Speaker 5:Well, long story short, I'm actually a heroin baby. Okay, yeah, no joke.
Speaker 3:My mom was on a lot of drugs when she had me, before you even had a chance to start.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I didn't actually seriously get into drugs like that until my mom came back into my life when I was like 15 or 16. And then I started like catching off of her habits of like getting high and shit. That's interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5:So clearly.
Speaker 1:They took her out of my life for a reason you're up for next question I mean I don't really have questions because my um, my parents were, were both in the same situation and uh, I know it's it's difficult, I know it's not easy to talk about either. So, like, if you don't want to talk about it, we don't have to. No, he's here to talk about either. So like, if you don't want to talk about it, we don't have to.
Speaker 3:No, he's here to talk about it. Relax Dan take a step back.
Speaker 1:That's not the point, though. If he's not comfortable talking about it. He's not comfortable.
Speaker 5:He said he was earlier. I know, but situations change. But like that I have a lot of anxiety issues, so like issues, so like just sitting here is sometimes uncomfortable being in a room I just I just want to make sure you're in a good space. I'm in a cool space right now.
Speaker 3:I like knowing the door is always open, right, right, right but it's going to close again. Yeah, and then latch, and we put duct tape on it.
Speaker 2:So you can't get out, it's okay. Does that help? What were you just talking about? Someone getting their belly split open?
Speaker 1:but yeah, it's, it's um, it's, it's an uphill battle yeah, it is it's.
Speaker 5:It's a really long process and even once you get clean from it, it's still an everyday fight absolutely it's like not going around people that you continuously used to habitualize with it's learning to understand yourself better than you ever have before as a person, because you're constantly reflecting on everything that you did while you're high or while you were trying to get high, and all the terrible shit you did when you get sober. You're faced with all of that.
Speaker 5:You're just kind of stuck in a room with it constantly. So you have to face yourself and you have to grow from that and either become a better person or don't. And by don't I mean like, uh, some people they face that and they're just not ready for it and they just they dive right back into the drug haze you're talking about how time stops and all of a sudden you have to deal with time.
Speaker 3:I mean, what is it?
Speaker 5:I mean like all right, right, you reflect on when you get really high, what?
Speaker 4:Like what I would say is like where you don't pay attention.
Speaker 5:You're in a haze, you're in like a drug haze.
Speaker 4:You're just by the guy who, like he's got to have his next fix, he's got like no matter what, like exactly Like you know how, like there are people just like they can't take what they did. They just they have to get away from it.
Speaker 3:Well, I thought that was initially, but then after a few days that goes away. Then I thought that's what he's talking about.
Speaker 5:No, I mean there's like there's withdrawal, and then there is I'm not able to face my emotional or mental trauma. Exactly, so I'm diving back into this haze so I don't have to deal with that bullshit.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 2:Okay, when did you start your recovery, or at least first time?
Speaker 3:What triggers recovery, that's.
Speaker 2:Actually admitting you have a problem and trying.
Speaker 3:Well, I had known I had a problem the entire time so yeah, that's I'm not one of those people that says, oh, I've never been addicted, or anything like that, like I've always been mentally and at some points physically addicted to things right so like I had the same thoughts too, like when I was like getting out of it myself.
Speaker 4:Like you know, it's like like this is wrong.
Speaker 3:I shouldn't. I shouldn't have been doing this right.
Speaker 4:It's like like, where is this going to take me? Like do I want to go there right, like after you get arrested so many times for like like.
Speaker 5:For me, the last time I got arrested was in harford county. I actually had my girlfriend's drugs on me and I got arrested for her drugs that's the worst, and eventually I was just like no, I'm done with this shit. I'm so fed up with it.
Speaker 2:I've been arrested for both being in my fault and somebody else's fault, and it's much worse when it's somebody else's fault.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I imagine that's gotta suck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does. Screw you Dad. I love him, but screw you Dad. There's the puppy. So what was oh there, there she is. So what was the first time you actually tried it? Like? What age, I think? Try to say that earlier 15 or 16.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, 15 or 16, I would say, my first honest time ever like snorting an opioid would have been 13 or 14. That was when an old friend gave it to me or whatever. Damn bro, you're talking about before like yeah, I'm talking like before my crash, when Casey used to get, when Casey used to get a shit yeah, oh well, they don't know her last name, it's okay. After, like, my mom came back into my life and everything is. When I seriously went down the hill because I got into a little accident uh, I hit a fire hydrant going like 60 or something on a bmx bike, oh damn. And I broke the whole left side of my body, like my collarbone, my leg everything that hit that hydrant.
Speaker 5:I'm guessing yeah like I demolished the side of my face. I got plate in my skull, damn bro, and I'm guessing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I demolished the side of my face. I got a plate in my skull, damn bro, a whole bunch of fun shit and I'm guessing there was a prescription part of that Heavily medicated Right Because they had to put a bar in my leg.
Speaker 5:I had spinal surgery. I had my cartilage go through the back of my eye.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ, your story is very close to my father's. Also started around 13 14 and ran a motorcycle into a telephone pole and got a bar in his leg.
Speaker 1:So crazy similarities like yeah, right.
Speaker 3:So they loaded you up at the hospital or the doctors gave you all sorts of oh, yeah, I think that's the main issue.
Speaker 5:They gave me everything under the sun they like.
Speaker 3:Here's a bucket with a handle of opiates.
Speaker 5:Just have fun with them. I was a drug addict and I was born opioid and I was like, okay, this guy's going to have heavy tolerance, let's load him up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I tell the doctors I say, whatever it is, I don't want anything with an opiate in it because I've had the withdrawal from from getting. They put me to sleep for five hours and they use all sorts of shit for that. When they put you to sleep and, uh, five hours was the max that they were allowed to have you put to sleep to fix my ankle and I remember going through the shakes and that was only, you know, medically prescribed rather than people. You guys are just experimenting. You're like, I didn't die when I did at that time, so I'll do it like that a little bit more and that, right, is that how it works well?
Speaker 1:you build a tolerance.
Speaker 5:That's a that's a different point in my life, because, all right, so like when I, when I had a script, I wasn't I wasn't experimenting back then. Back then I was just like a hippie or whatever. I didn't really mess with opioids. After the prescription and my mom coming back into my life, then I started experimenting because then I find out you know my little sister's on dope I didn't even know what do you do when you hear that she talked me into doing it oh, just that you got to try this type of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was like this is the greatest experience ever.
Speaker 5:You've got to try now was it?
Speaker 3:was it the greatest experience ever? I mean I don't remember, give me some of the positives. I'm not trying to talk people into it.
Speaker 5:No, no, it's not a good experience.
Speaker 3:So there are no positives? No, there aren't.
Speaker 2:There's no reason to ever stick a needle in your arm. It feels very good.
Speaker 5:It hurts and it'll destroy your life.
Speaker 1:It seems very intrusive.
Speaker 5:What is?
Speaker 1:You said, it seems very intrusive.
Speaker 3:Of a question.
Speaker 1:Act of sticking a needle in yourself.
Speaker 3:I can't get my blood drawn, I end up passing out.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I can't anymore.
Speaker 3:So I can't imagine having a needle and I'd make it so that I can't see the needle. I look away and I'm like, just do it.
Speaker 4:I mean it's interesting you say that too, because Sean also is somebody who, before he did any of this, like he was the same way. It's like oh needles, fucking gross.
Speaker 5:I was beyond afraid of needles.
Speaker 4:You may think yourself like now, like, but like if you were to like, if you were to be snorting or whatever, like you were on your way there. You may not think the same way at that point. You know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 5:In the depths of addiction it took. It took a younger family member to pull me into a room. That talked me into it too. That's also like so those real weird slippery slips.
Speaker 1:I don't know you ever seen breaking bad.
Speaker 4:You watch that yeah, yeah okay, yeah, but like you know, when his girlfriend gets jesse to do the stuff, it's like I had a hard time watching that. Yeah, and it's weird.
Speaker 3:It's an uncomfortable thing to see. You want to make it stop. You want to stop it.
Speaker 4:You want to say no, you know exactly what the fuck is happening. It makes you shiver.
Speaker 3:You know, I kind of know.
Speaker 5:I can't even go get my blood drawn anymore because, like when your adrenaline spikes, all your veins like constrict. So like when I'm in there trying to get my blood drawn, my adrenaline's constantly spiking. So I can't even get my blood drawn.
Speaker 3:What do you think it's spiking for? Do you think it's spiking for your memory of? Yeah, my brain is going like that's a needle get it away from me. Okay, is it saying like, like?
Speaker 5:dracula sees blood, and dracula, it's not like I want it. It's like I want it. The fuck away from me.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's good I mean, that's a great, uh, a healthy fear of, like I'm guessing.
Speaker 5:Thankfully I've always been like a mentally strong person when it came to addiction, like. For the most part I've been able to pick up and like drop addictions, but like dope, was that one well?
Speaker 3:it is. That's from what I hear, and I'm hoping that on the podcast, where we may only have 10 people listen to it, but at the same time there might be one person that's struggling yeah, man, what would you tell them? What do you tell them as somebody who's just gone through it? How long have have you been sober for, as?
Speaker 5:of now I want to say about five years. Five years is a long time. Five, almost six years.
Speaker 2:Congratulations, way to go. You got my dad beat, I mean. That's crazy to have a father? From what?
Speaker 5:I've seen it's an everyday battle. So you could go 75 years and just be gone like that. Yep.
Speaker 2:And it really sucks. I don't want to go back to that shit. Always best not to.
Speaker 5:It's not worth it because, like it destroys you as a person like it makes you do things that you wouldn't do, you know, to just to get a fix, kind of thing. No, no, it's like it changes you, it's not you anymore, it's just, it's always the drive to get the drug it changes your base values, all that
Speaker 5:matters it changes your base values as an individual where, like, if you like, after you get sober later on in life, if you were to sit down and reflect on you at back then and, like, write down your values now as you're sober, you can, you can literally see the differentiation between back then and now and how different you were.
Speaker 2:I know a lot. I'm not saying what you've done, but a lot of people lose their morals like they would never. They would never rob someone, but I would if I need to get or the drug, would you know, right?
Speaker 3:so that's what I wanted to get into. What are the worst things you've done without incriminating yourself to the fact that the cops are going to show up? This is this is for entertainment purposes only statutes of limitations.
Speaker 2:This is for entertainment purposes only uh Statutes of limitations.
Speaker 3:This is for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 5:When I was getting high I was mostly homeless, so like I was really big into like the shoplifting shit. Okay so like I would go and I would get like packs of socks and I would go downtown and I would sell those.
Speaker 3:Packs of socks go for what? $4 at the black market.
Speaker 5:Like $20 if they're nikes nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, get the good one.
Speaker 5:If you're good at shoplift, you might as well get the good ones, yeah I just get like a six pack of nike socks, the ones that go like all the way up the lake. You just take them downtown.
Speaker 3:So you're the guy, you're one of the guys that makes me have to go and get someone with a key to get my socks now and they lock them up now and tied, do they really yeah? Yeah, they lock up their socks a lot of times, depending on, depending on where you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just depends on the location you can't say that for the. I can't blame you for all the broad variety of like other walmarts, like I feel like the walmart down the road doesn't lock up socks walmart down the road is closed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they shut it down and say it's gone. How long ago, about two weeks it finally closed.
Speaker 3:I think the two level walmart, I did not know that. Yeah, well, you would have gone over there, like the other day.
Speaker 1:Like you know, I hated it too, but I still went there for shit.
Speaker 2:They had a 75 off sale like the last two weeks.
Speaker 3:That fucking blows oh yeah, me fucking too you hit him with the uh, the papa's uh news nick oh, no, oh, I've heard of papa's carryouts closing down right.
Speaker 2:The, the taylor, the, the restaurant put out something like two days ago. They said we're not closing the the carryouts closing.
Speaker 3:Oh, across the street, yeah, across the street I just wanted to clarify everything where you can go where you go to get like your, your, your, raw fish, crab cakes, stuff like that.
Speaker 1:But the restaurant is staying open, okay I I read something that said that, like the building was you know too old, uh, and to disrepair for them to continue pouring money into it.
Speaker 2:I think that's the carryout. Still, the, the, uh, the. The pappas themselves put out a tweet, an x, whatever, uh, within the past couple days, I think.
Speaker 3:You said the building is getting in disrepair, or what was the reason?
Speaker 2:Well, all they said is the carryout's closing, not the restaurant.
Speaker 3:Okay, so no other details. Yeah, I was more interested, less into the drug talk but more into the homeless talk. How did you live as a homeless person? What is that like? I mean where?
Speaker 2:were you?
Speaker 3:yeah, the location area uh, how do you eat? Uh, I understand how you eat with your mouth, but like what is?
Speaker 5:he knew what I was gonna say yeah, thank you trying to stop all the stupid things coming back.
Speaker 3:Um, but like, what is every you're talking every minute of every hour? You don't have a place that you can leave something, so yeah, it's not fun you gotta travel light, right?
Speaker 5:yeah, I mean like uh, have you ever seen train kids? No you've never seen a train kid in your life, I mean I don't.
Speaker 3:If you're talking about water key like a, like a backpacker, I mean a person with a stick and a hobo, a hobo, yeah, hobo, yeah. I've seen them. What's the hobo life Train, hopper life. Did you have a shopping cart? No, okay, I hopped trains, hopped trains.
Speaker 1:Did you ever have a water key? Water key no.
Speaker 5:Okay, I've heard that was didn't do that, I was.
Speaker 1:You got to turn the water on.
Speaker 5:Mostly just here in Maryland. Okay, I didn't really go too much out of state.
Speaker 1:I've heard that all the JB Hunt shipping containers go to Chicago.
Speaker 5:Do they.
Speaker 1:That's what I've heard.
Speaker 3:Well, now we know. I've also heard that there's a.
Speaker 5:Tropicana line that goes from maryland to florida I believe that, yeah, yeah there's also there is one of those, yeah but I don't know where it's at, though, did you ever?
Speaker 2:get caught by train security. I heard they can be hard asses yeah yeah, did they fuck you up? Because I'm like I've heard like wrench stories about wrenches and shit.
Speaker 1:What are they gonna do? Give?
Speaker 5:you three hots and a cot like I wasn't like a destructive train kid I wasn't. Like they never caught me graffitiing they never caught. Like I was never destroying their shit they never caught you graffitiing but you were, I mean he doesn't have to admit yes but so what was it like on the train?
Speaker 3:I've heard that others there's dangerous people on the train there can be Like you go on the train and they're like this is mine and they push you right back off. You've got to learn how to avoid those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there are people like that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, there are some very horrible people out there.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 5:But not everybody's like that. There are also a lot of Percentage of Like 96% good people.
Speaker 1:So like say you encounter a person that is in that 4% range, right, are you not allowed on, said like the whole train or just that particular car?
Speaker 5:Well, I don't know what they think they're allowing me to do, but Not that they're allowing you to do anything, but like.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, but like yeah.
Speaker 5:You could try to just like stay at this, distance yourself from them, you know, go one cart down, or Okay, you're not going multiple cars down, you're just going one or two. Yeah, just one or two carts down or whatever. Okay, just distance yourself from them. Try to down or whatever, okay just distance yourself from try to, you know. Keep some space, keep an eye between you and your party and everyone else.
Speaker 5:Okay, so you're doing this in a party, not not like I mean yeah, I mean you can do it with people, okay, they're like you would travel alone or with people.
Speaker 3:Is that what you're saying both?
Speaker 5:both, okay travel either alone or with people depends on the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really, it depends on who you're running to what you're doing.
Speaker 3:What movie best describes your previous life as that?
Speaker 5:Train Spotters.
Speaker 3:Okay, I have to re-watch it, I guess.
Speaker 2:It's a good flick, but it freaked me out when I first watched it. I'm not going to deny that. I guess I will be viewing it.
Speaker 1:I'll have to look this up real quick.
Speaker 2:Train Spotting Ewan McGregor's in it, I believe.
Speaker 5:They have a Jedi, it's an EU depiction of the homeless kid life, the train hopper life, but also being on dope at home between your parents and sort of like the punk rock lifestyle. Okay, it's a really good movie. This guy moves around a lot, there are a lot of Sean's moving around, if you hear all the noises. Yeah, there are a lot of hard realizations in that movie, Like when you've done enough jokes in your life. You look at those and you go, wow, I'm glad I didn't go through that.
Speaker 5:Like the baby on the ceiling and shit that shit freaked me out so bad I the movie off. I was probably. I was probably 15 and it freaked me the fuck out basically in the movie, um, the kid is on his bed.
Speaker 5:He's he's like tied down or whatever. He's going through withdrawals and going through withdrawal he's having like visualizations of, uh, um, his like dead infant. Who, who, like his girlfriend, miscarried his infant or whatever. So he's having like visualizations of, uh, um, his like dead infant who met who, like his girlfriend, miscarried his infant or whatever. So he's having like visualizations of that infant, like crawling up the ceiling and that's what?
Speaker 5:yeah, that you're saying that that people with withdrawal actually that's true, like withdrawal can be a very deadly thing, like I've seen a joke I've seen what was it uh the one with uh the girl from.
Speaker 3:she was originally on ET as a child but, like Drew Barrymore yeah. Drew Barrymore. She was in a movie Riding in Cars with Boys.
Speaker 2:I remember the name of that one. I didn't watch it though.
Speaker 3:There was somebody in that movie that went through withdrawal, that I remember, and it was at least depicted horrifying, I mean screaming for three days in a room.
Speaker 1:I've heard cold showers help.
Speaker 5:It depends on if you're going through hot flashes or cold flashes. It's like a very quick phase. It's like, basically, withdrawals are hot flashes, cold flashes, a lot of body pain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, throwing up.
Speaker 5:Sort of, yeah, vomiting, your abdomen tenses up. Actually, what makes you throw up is like your, your muscles all contract, all at the same time yeah.
Speaker 3:So you're not throwing up to try to eject something. You're throwing up because all your muscles are doing it, because your body's throwing up, because your body is telling you that you're poisoned and that you need to, whatever you need to purge it.
Speaker 5:You need to purge it. That's why you're throwing up. But um, yeah, it's a whole hell in itself. But once you get through that three-door door, you're you're depending on how long your addiction, your addiction was. It can be anywhere from like three days to two weeks sounds fun so it's not.
Speaker 3:The best thing would be to not start.
Speaker 5:Yeah, don't start, but if you have, then Stop ASAP.
Speaker 2:Not necessarily that Does it get better.
Speaker 3:Does your life get better? I mean, my life kind of sometimes sucks all the time. Well, yeah, and I'm not dealing with all that shit.
Speaker 5:Sometimes life just sucks, Sometimes it doesn't. But I mean, it's not going to magically just make your whole life better. You know, life is still going to suck a little bit, but every day it gets better and better and better.
Speaker 3:I'm going to try to say something that will hopefully help somebody. If you have eight dogs, well, there's eight dogs and then all of a sudden, one of the dogs dies and you go oh my God, we lost a dog. But you know, is that bad or is that good? It's well. Well, maybe it's good. Well, what happens is they end up? Well, maybe because something else happened, because that dog died. You got to meet somebody at the clinic that you took the dog to get looked at, and then at that time you met someone, and then something else positive happened. So was that a bad thing? Maybe Was it great you met someone and then something else positive happened. So was that a bad thing? Maybe Was it great that you met that person? Maybe it could have been good that you met that person.
Speaker 3:Sometimes good things happen, because bad things happen, yeah, so sometimes exactly the whole like well, maybe, well, maybe, if you just keep looking at life, well, if I stopped doing what I'm supposed to not be doing, it might be good, it could be bad, it could you know, but either way, you won't know until you try to improve the way that I look at it is that's you're absolutely right about that Like turning every negative experience you have.
Speaker 5:finding some way to turn it into a positive is actually a very good coping mechanism.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Well, like that's mainly the main thing that's helped me through Stanks Over was just that. That's my main coping mechanism is finding ways to laugh at life. Because the second that you get sad and depressed.
Speaker 3:Me and Will laugh at life on the phone all the time. We'll call each other and be like you won't fucking believe.
Speaker 4:And like a lot of the stuff too, after like a lot of time passes like there's a lot of things. Everybody like looks back and is like man, that really fucking sucked then. But it's so goddamn funny now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I wouldn't have that story, will? I would love for you to be able to tell your story of the tree. I can delete this if you like, but you got hammered and you were up in a tree, in a tree.
Speaker 4:No, you're talking about when I got locked up.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:No, I're talking about what I got locked up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I didn't climb that tree. No, I was all drunk.
Speaker 4:I was threatening to pour gasoline on myself and light myself up. Yeah, and you don't remember any of it. I had a box of tools and I was going to throw it and the cop told me put it down, don't do it. It's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, because at the time I was still living in my camper and like at the station.
Speaker 4:you know I'm talking to the cops while I'm all fucking drunk. The funny thing is it's like once I got to the station I completely forgot everything bad that happened and at that point I'm the fucking fun drunk guy at the fucking police station having a good time with all the cops.
Speaker 4:You know it's funny station having a good ass time with all the cops. You know it's funny like the whoever was the actual arresting officer. She walked past me and I didn't know who she was at this point. She just had some stink face going. I was like man what the fuck is her problem to all our other.
Speaker 1:She's over here like you're my problem, yeah, and then like, like, later on I actually read the paper like oh shit, that was that bitch.
Speaker 3:You didn't remember peeing on her.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like she and like two, three other fucking guys have to fucking wrestle me to the ground like damn why you got a fucking problem, bitch oh my god, that's great how you forget stuff.
Speaker 3:Apple nick, you have a story about when you got locked up, right. I'm just joking.
Speaker 1:I've never had the pleasure, once again CJ he's still very young by the time I was his age, I think I'd been locked up twice.
Speaker 3:Nick's led a good life.
Speaker 1:I don't drink, I don't do much.
Speaker 5:That makes two of us he takes care of his family. That's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2:It's better to not get locked up. So you're doing good? Oh no, I'm seeing firsthand. Well.
Speaker 5:I've seen firsthand. It's a lot cheaper.
Speaker 1:I'm currently seeing firsthand, so not fun.
Speaker 2:No, no, it sucks, very expensive yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, very expensive. Well, I am the designated driver tonight. I picked up Will and his buddy Sean. How many beers did we buy? Twelve there better be like eight left. He's on his third. I just don't want you to have to ride on the hood because you forced me to make you ride on the hood. You have a truck, there's a bed yeah. Nice and comfy.
Speaker 5:Just lay down, so the cops don't see it.
Speaker 3:Don't get caught. This is I've been tasked with. I have over here about how many Sean pieces do you think there are there? Sean's going to count them up. They are slivers of wood. They are about an inch and a half to two inches wide, and I would to two inches wide and I would say 18 inches long and what we're talking about, so Will has a laser engraver and we're going to be engraving things into this wood and I'm going to do some epoxy laying, embedding we call it and then selling these online, right Will.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah. That's what we've spoken of in the past, and these are we can actually do it now because I actually have a computer that's running. That's part of the problem. Yeah, you've got to have everything already.
Speaker 3:I have a computer, but and it burns into the wood whatever you want in whatever you tell the computer to do. It's really cool.
Speaker 2:You just draw something up in Photoshop and then burn that, or something along those lines.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you can do pictures and stuff.
Speaker 3:I just show up and say I want this here, and he goes okay.
Speaker 1:You can do an Orioles logo, as long as you have the programming and everything for it, yeah, and don't get caught selling them.
Speaker 3:Exactly, and you have to bribe him with something you have to give him a table saw.
Speaker 5:Oh shit, I have the Grateful Dead in the back of my phone.
Speaker 1:So are you giving my donations to Will, as you're tasked with I?
Speaker 3:already gave Will a very nice table saw. I think that I do a few engravers for that. Have you been using the table saw Will?
Speaker 4:I use it for one small project, but yes, I have used it.
Speaker 3:That's kind of how a table saw goes. You use it when you need to. It's a long-term project. Anyway, that's the task I'll be giving Will.
Speaker 2:Dan, do you have plans on what is going to be engraved on those pieces of wood?
Speaker 3:I'm going to go with a welcome home or welcome to my home type stuff.
Speaker 2:Home is where the heart is, which is You're going to do some live laugh. Love, yeah, some live laugh love that kind of horse shit Love laugh live.
Speaker 3:You've got to keep in mind. We've got whatever 30-something pieces to play with, and then I'll take them and run them through my wood thickness planer after I do the epoxy inlay, and then I'll stain them.
Speaker 2:Shouldn't you plane them before you do the epoxy?
Speaker 3:No, because when he goes to burn them it's going to damage the very outer shell of the wood it burns. It's freaking sssssss. Yeah, it'll actually cut a crevice, yeah it cuts a crevice and it blackens the outer shell, so I want to leave as much, almost like wood burning.
Speaker 5:It's a literal laser.
Speaker 3:Hell, yeah, yeah, so it's, and I'll you know we're going to start small with these pieces, put your finger under there.
Speaker 3:You could do anything you want. As far as the podcast goes, I wanted Sean, do you have anything to say to any addicts? Don't do drugs, don't do drugs, don't do it. That was basically what I wanted to put across. I've done some charity events where I'm the emcee for opioid awareness events and things like that, and it's sad to see the families that are affected. How has your family been affected? I know we talked about your little sister was before you and is she still around?
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah. One of them is uh, so majority like my family, all did drugs before I did. I was the last person in my family lucky man yeah, thankfully I mean it's either that or because he's the oldest of all of his siblings okay, which is which is pretty weird that all like all my younger siblings are all doing drugs before I was. Well, not all of them. Plenty of my. I'm the oldest of nine.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's a lot That'll make you want to do drugs right there you could field a baseball team. My dad wanted to have nine kids. My mom was like fuck that.
Speaker 3:That's a lot of work, cj, do you have any questions for sean of how you could help your father or?
Speaker 2:oh, my dad's a lost cause. I love the man, but he's 70 years old.
Speaker 1:He ain't changing why change it all?
Speaker 5:comes down to. Is it your choice or not?
Speaker 1:it has like like someone else can stop you from doing drugs you can help not gonna matter if it's not your choice yeah, you can help somebody as much as you want, but they're not gonna change unless they want to change yeah, incredible my dad's gone through the recovery at least four or five times.
Speaker 5:He always comes back yeah, I'm not gonna lie. It took me like like seven or eight different recoveries, right I?
Speaker 2:just, I don't think he started nearly as early as you I think his first try at it was somewhere around 50.
Speaker 5:Good man Sticking with the party. I respect it.
Speaker 3:I'm learning stuff. I just figured everyone did it when they were 20, 22, and whatever, or like 18.
Speaker 2:No, he did it from 14 to 50. Okay, and a lot of alcohol and Coke and everything else you could stick in your body. The dude loved getting high. Still does.
Speaker 5:I love smoking weed these days, thankfully Well that's legal yeah.
Speaker 2:That and drinking are about the only things I do on a regular basis.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I had to get away from alcohol because I'm a real asshole drunk. It took a while for me to learn. Well, once I learned, I'd stay away from alcohol now Total.
Speaker 2:Or is it like liquor?
Speaker 5:is bad.
Speaker 4:He gave us the X. He quit drinking long before he even gave up.
Speaker 3:He held his hands up like an X as we were carrying the beer past him.
Speaker 5:That's where we go. I'm good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he gave us the X.
Speaker 2:Are you still listening to the Grateful Dead? Yes, okay, you get the.
Speaker 3:X, are you still listening?
Speaker 2:to the Grateful Dead yes, okay, I wasn't sure if they bring up bad memories or something like that, but I love the dead, yeah yeah, yeah, of course, I always love them. Hell yeah.
Speaker 3:What's the song? High on cocaine.
Speaker 2:That's about riding a train. Just come my way.
Speaker 5:Actually funny enough, just so you guys know. Casey Jones, in fact, was not high on cocaine the day he crashed that train.
Speaker 2:I believe it was alcohol. It was it was.
Speaker 3:He was drunk I mean, I wouldn't imagine cocaine making you crash a train, alcohol totally, I could see that.
Speaker 2:Well, you crank up that speed, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 5:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:I've done some stupid shit on drugs. Yeah well, give us one more story Of the stupid shit you've done on drugs. We're getting ready to. We're going to do a shout out to Advanced Auto Parts. Their names are no.
Speaker 2:I keep telling them he needs to get sponsored. I'm getting discounts.
Speaker 3:I'm getting discounts.
Speaker 4:Everybody needs a sponsor these days. It was not Jack and Diane.
Speaker 3:Jack and Diane was the song. I'm getting discounts at places. Everybody needs a sponsor these days.
Speaker 2:It was not Jack and Diane. Jack and Diane was the song.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was going to do a thing where CJ would come in.
Speaker 2:Maybe sucking on chili dogs, yeah.
Speaker 3:It was man. I wrote. I set an alarm for me to do this thing.
Speaker 4:Wait, Diane and Chad. Right, Was it Chad it?
Speaker 3:was Chad, bro. I love willow memory chad and diet yep verified at advanced auto parts. The chad is chad. Of all the chats. What is that bar behind home depot? The valley in, valley view in, valley view in? Yeah, I put a little uh board that says I've been tasked with podcast. Nice, they haven't taken it out yet, has not? And uh, the guys at advanced auto
Speaker 3:parts, even the guys that were there today because I've been tasked with podcasts Nice, and they haven't taken it out yet, have not? And the guys at Advanced Auto Parts, even the guys that were there today because I've been frequently I've been getting things that I need for the boat and wave runners and stuff and fuel filters and whatnot yeah, they said they were like I said something about a podcast. They were like is that your podcast thing down the street.
Speaker 2:And I, like you saw it and I actually got. He was like yeah, yeah, I've, I've started listening. It's really good. All right, yes, that's nice. So that I forgot his name, but that wasn't chad and diane, but that was one of the guys that advanced. You got to go out to paring parkway and stick it in the median, yeah I just this I'm going for less invasive.
Speaker 3:I kind of want you know what I want. I want listeners that are the guys that are coming out of the back of home depot.
Speaker 2:I don't want the guys that are coming out of the back of Home Depot.
Speaker 3:I don't want the guys that are Coming out the front of Home Depot, I just I want the guys that are like Will and CJ and Nick, the guys that know the back roads because they're local, you know at least. Okay, that makes more sense now yeah.
Speaker 1:Back to sports news. I found out something interesting today. I'll take it what's up, so my coworker actually used to play Division I college football.
Speaker 2:Oh shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was signed to Ohio.
Speaker 2:The Ohio State University Not the Ohio, just Ohio.
Speaker 1:I don't know what they Bobcats, I believe Something like that. But um, he was a defensive back for I want to say, freshman, junior and sophomore, and then he was a safety for senior I guess he's a skinny tall person, a skinny six six one, okay, yep. And the reason he didn't continue with his professional life was he tore his rotator cuff in his right shoulder two seasons in a row.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck.
Speaker 1:Stefan and Trayvon.
Speaker 3:Diggs, diggs. I got it. I knew what they were talking about, because I heard them say Stefan Diggs before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm putting it all together. He's only one of the most popular players in the NFL.
Speaker 1:Yeah and they have an older brother, I think, named Aaron, but they don't share their last name. It's a different last name. Oh, okay, I was talking to him about it today because he showed me a clip of him intercepting the ball. I think it was like a game in an ending interception of I don't remember what game it was on youtube. I'll have to you know have him pull it.
Speaker 2:Is he around your age or he's around 30 something, so he's more stefan's age.
Speaker 1:He grew up with him, gotcha they actually played on the same uh, like peewee league, like they all grew up together oh shit, that's pretty wild man yeah so like because he's from germantown and I know I think the digs brothers are from like gaithersburg area yep.
Speaker 1:So, uh, I just you know that's crazy to think about. And uh, he was like, yeah, that's you know, because I mentioned the digs brothers to him and he's like you know what? His older brother literally tagged me in something yesterday and he pulled it up and showed me like I can prove it yeah and he did, he pulled, he was like I got fucking receipts. Dog, you can't just say that yeah, all right.
Speaker 3:So are you guys done with the sports?
Speaker 2:yeah, all right, so I love you dad I'm just trying, I'm just trying.
Speaker 1:Uh, I have one question from lauren are you done with the question from lauren?
Speaker 3:no, not yet okay.
Speaker 1:Thank you for asking, uh they're doing the jerk off motion.
Speaker 3:I love it. This is the best. This is a question. It's the actual question. Uh, I guess the most basic question was uh, what was his rock bottom? What made him get clean? I think we tried to ask that earlier my rock bottom.
Speaker 5:What made me get clean?
Speaker 3:what? What was? Did you go to jail for like four years and then have to?
Speaker 5:thankfully, I, did not go to jail for like four years and then have to no, no, thankfully I did not go to jail for anything like that.
Speaker 3:Okay, Something had to make you just switch that switch. I mean, were you just sick of it? I mean I'm not trying to feed you things?
Speaker 4:What were you doing when you got in the program?
Speaker 5:When I got on that he's talking about, on the methadone program because I am on the methadone program right now.
Speaker 3:I Well he's talking about on the methadone program, because I am on the methadone program right now. I mean, yeah, you can talk about as much of that as you want.
Speaker 5:When I originally got onto that, I was really tired of not being allowed to see my daughter. I was really tired of constantly going downtown to buy something that I don't know what the fuck it is. I don't know what's in it and it could potentially and has many times killed me. I don't know what's in it and it could potentially and has many times killed me, like I just got tired of all this shit.
Speaker 3:Did you die, did you?
Speaker 5:clinically die. I've died multiple times.
Speaker 3:Okay, Like.
Speaker 5:I can count.
Speaker 3:I can't count on my fingers and toes how many times I've died. What do you call that? When your heart stops right, what do you call death?
Speaker 5:I consider what do you call death? I consider death when, when, basically your heart stops when you stop breathing, when everything in your body shuts down, okay, like when there's no pulse, nothing like. Uh, I've been clinically dead at least five times.
Speaker 2:That's kind of wild shit, uh, so fentanyl gotcha, yeah um so did you see anything in the afterlife? What was the dark void look? Did you see the light? Did you hear anything? It's not your time, anything like that, or was it just kind of a darkness?
Speaker 5:To be honest, I saw more when I hit the fire hydrant than I have any time.
Speaker 1:I've ever OD'd.
Speaker 5:When I've OD'd, it's just black nothingness. You can hear things going on around you. You kind of like you're in this uh, in this uh in like kind of like a void space in your mind where you're aware, but you're, you're not awake so, like you're aware of everything that's going on around you, but like you're not actually there, that's how I felt when I had my seizure like they.
Speaker 4:They portray it in the video like it's got that ringing sound in your ear, but you still see everything happening in the picture. But they make that ringing in your ears, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that ring is a real thing. That high-pitched ring in the back of your head, that's a real thing. When you're about to go out, you'll hear that ringing in your ears. That's how you know you're about to go head over heels.
Speaker 4:Same thing know you're about to right, or, yeah, same thing like whenever, whenever you like you, you're working out in the field and like you get hit really hard, you don't have it. No, no, you don't have like enough like water in your body and you, you, you go to do something, you get stars in your eyes and whatnot.
Speaker 3:You're right, that's well, that's a nick's experience. He was talking about how, when he passed out, nick had two experiences he passed out and then had like convulsions like yeah, a seizure is almost it was almost like my eyes were just closed.
Speaker 1:um, I couldn't look around, I couldn't do anything, but it's like somebody like grabbed my head and started shaking it and it was weird. I couldn't hear anything, but I was conscious, in the sense of I could feel my body shaking. I couldn't tell what was going on. It felt like I was on a roller coaster that I wanted to get off, that I couldn't. It was just a weird feeling.
Speaker 2:Definitely sounds shitty.
Speaker 3:Definitely sounds scary. We got some stuff out of these guys. Yeah, man, I'm always willing to come back. Thanks a lot for coming Are you sticking around, cj, I will throw in the ending. Thank you to Sean. Thank you for Nick. Thank you, Nick's trying to run out like it's a.
Speaker 2:Hey, he told you Like a bat out of hell.
Speaker 3:Bye, nick, uh will thank you. I would love to have will come in and speak more tool talk. Uh will's got a lot of stuff tool tool time this was a taylor over here this whole time this whole podcast was. It was a lot harder because this is our first five person and probably the I wouldn't say last, but like first for a long time. It's not going to be five people.
Speaker 2:Um, we generally only have one guest at a time yeah, we usually when we've had five people before but still only three mics hooked up yeah, and this is the first time. Five was that when we had that big connor on and you called joanna from montana, so there were five people yeah, there were five people at one time but only three mics were on talking to the You're talking about favorite times of being high.
Speaker 4:Why don't?
Speaker 3:you, there we go.
Speaker 4:My favorite time being high. I was down on Green Mountain at 33rd Street. I was all fucking high. I wanted some fucking paint bills and whatnot. I was walking around on drywall stilts.
Speaker 3:Where did you get drywall stilts I?
Speaker 4:don't know yeah.
Speaker 3:But anyway, you were in the truck.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I was just walking around on drywall stilts. I pulled them out of my back pocket, I walk up to a cop.
Speaker 4:I'm like I'm so high. The cop just fucking laughs about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you are pretty up there, man, you're up there, you're like a good two or three foot.
Speaker 5:right, you're like two or three foot up there, you're pretty high, yeah, yeah, yeah, his stilts were like this tall.
Speaker 3:Yeah, did the cops used to fuck with you, sean?
Speaker 5:Not really, I mean, I've always been pretty chill.
Speaker 3:Like even with police and stuff. That doesn't mean that you could be chill as you want, but sometimes the cops are just no, I mean dude cops, don't fuck with me, I just have that vibe cops in the city have better shit to deal with, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, they don't give a shit if you don't have a gun, they don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if you're not actively shooting at them, they don't give a fuck.
Speaker 5:Exactly that's how the city police are. You're not actively trying to kill them, they're not. They don't give a shit, makes sense, but like county cops a little different harvard county is the worst.
Speaker 3:Like I've been pulled over because I looked at a cop before, yeah, harvard I didn't know I wasn't allowed to look at you.
Speaker 5:I'm sorry harvard county is the only place that I've actually been arrested and faced jail time for for drugs that weren't mine, like they were my girlfriend's drugs they were in her car Frame and Mame.
Speaker 3:The sheriff's office. I love your guys' insights. I'm surprised I was able to get Will and Sean to come in here. I've been asking Will for about a couple months.
Speaker 2:Was Will the guy you were trying to call in a couple times.
Speaker 3:No, that's different. That's Terry. Will does know Terry and wouldn't. Wouldn't terry be a good?
Speaker 4:yeah, you want to call him in terry would probably have some good stories you want to call you.
Speaker 3:You have about 10 minutes. I'll make a phone call.
Speaker 2:We can get terry no, I don't have time to get into another interview. You know it's gonna be longer than 10 minutes. Yeah, you know what I?
Speaker 3:I I interviewed cj. Was it you I?
Speaker 2:said it was the first one, it was six minutes. I was going 45 minutes, it was a 45 minutes.
Speaker 3:Call up the uh, the end of the podcast. I don't have any buttons because I have every channel used.
Speaker 2:All right, guys you're gonna put the cry baby while on I, uh, I will be doing.
Speaker 3:You'll hear. Did you hear it on the last episode? I did was there was some good sounding stuff in there yeah thank you I kept it real.
Speaker 2:What music were you playing behind me asking his questions? When I was asking Nick questions, you had some cool sounding music out behind that, but it wasn't just bass.
Speaker 3:We will re-listen to it and I'll have to You'll have to let me know. It was probably me playing the.
Speaker 2:It sounded like an electronic-y type music.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, I do have some samples that I've, so I'll take. It's called a song kit and I'll pull one sample in and I'll pull another sample in.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think you were showing me that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you can create a song based off of what you have and it's nice. It's just filler, it's like something to play in the background and you don't have to sit there and edit and you don't have to sit there and edit.
Speaker 2:It sounded cool in the background. Thank you, I'll give you that Thank you All right guys, Good podcast.
Speaker 5:See you later. See you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man.