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226- Understanding CRT: Dr. George S. Maurer on Race & Education
How does Critical Race Theory (CRT) shape our understanding of race and history? Discover the answer with our guest, Dr. George S. Mauer, a retired Air Force Master Sergeant and academic, as he shares his personal journey into the controversial world of CRT. Motivated by frequent accusations of racism during debates with liberal friends, Dr. Maurer unveils the essence of CRT and its deep implications for education. Parents, educators, and concerned citizens will gain valuable insights into how this theory potentially impacts children's perception of American history and race relations.
Our discussion broadens to critique social justice movements such as Antifa and Black Lives Matter (BLM), spotlighting issues of financial misconduct and the adverse effects on at-risk communities. We address the societal pressures on individuals to support these movements based on their racial backgrounds and the backlash faced when they dissent. Examining how CRT can foster divisiveness and harmful racial stereotypes among children, we dive into the complexities and contradictions within these movements, revealing their broader societal implications.
Lastly, we scrutinize the implementation of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives across various institutions, questioning their effectiveness and the potential diversion of resources from primary missions. Using examples from educational materials in Tennessee, we highlight techniques that some believe indoctrinate children with specific ideologies, and we critique figures like Ibram X. Kendi for approaches that may heighten racial tensions. Concluding with a call for more positive and unifying ethnic studies courses, we stress the importance of respectful dialogue and constructive debate on these pressing issues. Join us for this thought-provoking episode.
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Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech with your host, elias. I want to talk about a topic that, let's be quite honest, we're so distracted with so many current events, geopolitical events, that we forget that this exists critical race theory. I know some of you say, oh, you talked about that a few years ago. Can we move on? Well, I have an extra here's gonna strongly disagree. And just because the media is no longer talking about it doesn't mean magically disappears. A lot of people just tend to have that perception. Oh, we need to talk about it, it's not trending. Okay, the problem is gone, it magically disappears. Just forget about all about it. Out of sight, out of mind, no, no, no, I have a guess here. It's good. So ycrt is probably stronger than ever. Probably a little hyperbolic on my part. I'm going to have him clear any Preconceived notions that I have here. And so YCRT is B-A-D Bad. Okay, play acronym letter games. I can play that game with you too. So I have a guest here who has done extensive work on this and it was actually quite concerning the crt. No, crt stands for, just in case you forget.
Speaker 1:I'm sure many of you have forgotten critical race theory. Okay, critical race theory. Ok, critical race theory. That's what it stands for. And, of course, people on the right are very critical. They're against it. The left sometimes play it off like the right wingers are crazy. Those who are more intellectually honest about it know it's a good thing we got to teach kids why America is such a racist and bad country. So no, it's a good thing we got to teach kids why America is such a racist and bad country. So that's what we have here. So I have Dr George S Mauer, okay, and he's going to introduce himself and we're going to get deep into this CRT and probably a few random political, historical topics. That's if it's permitted. Can't promise that, but go right ahead, go introduce yourself.
Speaker 2:I just want to say thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Um and um. Well, my background is, uh, I'm a retired air force master sergeant. Uh was in military journalism and when I retired from the air force, I went back to school and while I was working on my doctoral degree, around 2020-ish, there was a subject being talked about called critical race theory, and I knew that I was in for a two or three-year ride with my dissertation and it was going to have to be a subject that I would be interested in. And it was going to have to be a subject that I would be interested in.
Speaker 2:And, as a conservative, I found that when I got into discussions with my liberal friends, they accused me of being a racist pretty much all the time. And you know, and I would say, I'm not a racist and I'd have to defend myself. And so, with critical race theory, that's kind of what I saw was, you know, people you know defending themselves over this issue. Anybody who disagreed with it was automatically a racist and it was honestly. Calling someone a racist is a pretty disgusting thing to do. Being a racist is a disgusting thing, and accusing someone of being racist without any real evidence is a pretty horrible thing to do, and so you know you get thick skin after a while, but it still bothers me that people just assume that's who I am.
Speaker 2:So I saw this as an important subject, one that I would be interested in, and when people started talking about critical race theory, there was a lot of confusion out there, and so my intended audience include parents who don't know what critical race theory is, want to know more about it If they happen to run across it, what they can do about it if they don't want their children being exposed to it. And so I took my dissertation, I turned it into a book. I took it out of academic ease. You know the writing you need to write to pass. You know any academic class, which often is pretty silly language. That's the way they want it. And so I turned it into regular English as best I could try to make it as plain English as possible so that anybody can read it and understand. So, and that book was released in May, and here I am.
Speaker 1:There's a few things that stick out to me. Normally a conservative would admit that it bothers them, which is interesting to me because I do see a lot of patterns and I do pick up on patterns. Sure, because you know I mean me to be honest. Honest, they even accused me of racism, even when I just questioned critical race theory, I said well, you sure this is the right thing for them. We want to elevate them and teach them math, life skills, science, history and all that. They have to form their opinions. If they don't like america, at least they reach that conclusion naturally, organically, or the opposite end they love America so much they will defend it to death.
Speaker 1:But yeah to that, because a lot of conservatives don't act like. They are stoic and cold half the time. Oh, these things don't bother me, these are just words, you know, feelings in front of liberals, which I find that ridiculous sometimes. That's why I got to kind of criticize, not you, you particularly, but those right-wing famous personalities, sometimes like ben shapiro unless he gets upset, especially with the israeli hamas thing there's a lot of criticism on that, for sure and even some of the right-wing people's critical film, but I don't want to derail it too much. I just find that just just interesting. Yeah, it does. It does bother. Even though you develop a thick skin, it does bother. You just learn not to let that reaction become so visceral that you just think you're crazy, say aha, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, like I said, I mean calling someone a racist is a horrible thing, and if you're going to do it, you better have some evidence, you should back it up in some way, and so but that was partially the motivation behind my book.
Speaker 1:Well, at least you're doing something productive about it Instead of just I don't know grab a gun and shoot down a school. It's horrendous.
Speaker 2:Well, that's never a good idea Ever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't care if you're left or right or you're a super 2A person. Yeah, no, 2as was me. To defend yourself, not seek confrontation. I'm talking to the fringe far right here. I'm sure most right-wingers even understand that concept very well. So I'm just going to be very clear about that criticism.
Speaker 2:Well, you'd be surprised. A lot of mass shootings tend to be actually far left extremists. Uh, that's been my. That's been my, my take on things.
Speaker 2:Um you, know I know I, I know the way it's presented in the news is always that it's a right wing, right wing extremist. But you know, I mean the the shooter in tennessee was a hat, was some kind of a trans person and he had some some uh, some you know theory written up. You know that he they didn't release to us because it kind of exposed who he was and it was, and he certainly wasn't a far right guy, he was definitely far left. I mean you go Sandy Hook, I mean you go to all of these things, and if you read the manifestos of these shooters, they tend to be Marxists and socialists and Antifa. You know. I mean I don't know if any Antifa person has done a mass shooting, but you know it wasn't conservatives running around burning down cities during the summer of 2020. It was Marxists, Antifa. You know.
Speaker 2:Well, they call themselves anti-fascists. They say they're fighting fascism, but actually they're fascists. You know how did they fight anti-fascism? By using fascism. And so it's sort of like, well, I'm going to fight crime and I'm going to fight crime by throwing a rock through that store window over there and taking out a couple of computers and leaving. You know, and in my research for my book, anti-racism, sort of the same thing. You know I'm an anti-racist. Okay, great. And then they begin to say the most racist things you've ever heard in your life. So you're using, you're being racist, You're defeating racism by being racist. It doesn't add up, it doesn't make sense. So anyway, I got off on a little bit of a tangent there. I apologize.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. Apologize, it's free-flowing conversation and that was the next thing I was going to bring up, just like I was criticizing the few far right, the far left, which you already said it for me y'all are guilty of some of this violence too. You already mentioned Antifa. I've been very critical of Antifa and I even told BLM if you want your movement to be has more credibility, you better separate yourself from Antifa as much as possible, or I don't even care if you have to physically beat them up, I don't care. Do a little something, because they are ruining your movement. I don't support BLM either. I was very critical of that movement, so I was called. I even almost lost a friend over that discussion. I didn't even care. So no, I'm going to stay my ground.
Speaker 1:You can shout and yell at me all you want, but you're not helping your cause, and for that you just proved me right as a skeptic who don't trust think tank movements. Naturally, you just proved my point. It's a shouting, yelling is not going to help. There's no way. No, there's no, no. I understand if you pay attention to the top people in leadership have stole over close to $100 million. All right, just enriched themselves. It's a scam. You've been robbed. I'm sure some BLM people had some good intent, but I'm not going to get too deep into that, but y'all been robbed. It's fraud.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, the thing was for BLM. They went into those cities, caused a lot of damage and you're right, when they raised more than $100 million directly and then billions of dollars indirectly. You know, they got Starbucks and Netflix and Amazon and JPMorgan Chase to promise to spend money on diversity programs. You know, in the billions they promised to spend, you know billions of dollars doing these things. But the problem was when they left you know, ferguson, missouri, for example they burned the place down, collected all that money but never used any of that money to actually rebuild the city and to help the folks.
Speaker 2:You know the folks that were probably, you know, the worst off. You know, I mean, it wasn't the nice neighborhoods they were burning down, it was the at-risk neighborhoods, the poor neighborhoods. Those are the ones that suffered the most and those are the folks that you know can ill afford to suffer even more than where they're at now and they were the biggest victims of these riots. And when they left, they took all their money with them. And you know, hey, good luck on your burned-down neighborhood, but we're going to go back to wherever we're going and we're going to go buy a $6 million house in LA and pay. You know my ex-husband a million dollars for consulting you know, I mean it's. Yeah, I mean I agree, and you said you're African-American, correct.
Speaker 1:Or are you? No, I am a mixed race person.
Speaker 2:Okay, a mixed race person, okay, that's fine. But as a mixed race person, like you were saying in your thing, you are expected to support organizations like BLM. And when you don't see, when I do it, oh you're just another white racist, blah, blah, blah. But when you do it, see, you're a traitor. That's different. You know, I'm just a regular racist. I'm a white supremacist racist. According to their rules, you, my friend, are a traitor to their race. Even worse, you are even worse. So, like you said I'm sure you've seen it many times.
Speaker 1:One of them even dared to call me a supporter of white supremacy. I laughed it off. I said you're stupid and insane, you're not worth talking to. You have a nice life, get locked up in the mental ward because you're just going to say I'm supporting of white supremacy. I've criticized KKK. I even criticized, you know, even the January 16th, even though it was not insurrection, it was more of a breach the Capitol building. That's why I categorize it Regardless. It should never happen, in my honest opinion, but it did.
Speaker 1:So, I'm an independent-minded person, so I hate this sure race thing, this group tank thing, and you know, that's what really actually pisses me off, right, so no, you expect me to support one way because of my skin color. Do you know how racist that preconceived notion is exactly?
Speaker 2:exactly it's. It's extremely racist and that's what I'm saying. That's one of the points that I made in my book. Is these anti-racists, crt supporters, in order in their mind, in order to make racism better in the country? They're being racist. They're teaching children of color African American children, hispanic children, indigenous children that they should be angry at white children and they're teaching the white children that they should be ashamed of themselves, their families, their histories, their culture.
Speaker 2:You know all these things and it just does not make any sense. If you do well, you got to do more than 15 minutes of research, because the first 50 things, if you do a Google, if you Google CRT, the first 50 things will say that CRT is the greatest thing since sliced bread. But if you do some in-depth look and you can see some of the lessons. There was a kindergarten class. A parent went into their child's classroom and there was a white piece of paper and they were doing a lesson on freedom, and how they were discussing freedom was these five and six-year-old children were instructed to discuss the following sentences Whites have more than blacks, whites oppress blacks, whites harass people of color and you must fight in a war. Now I don't know very many adults who could sit down mixed race group and have that discussion in an emotionally mature way. Now imagine what it's going to do to a five and six-year-old child.
Speaker 2:And that is basically what you have with critical race theory, and to kind of explain what it is. And if you're confused by it and don't know, don't feel bad, it's by design. In my opinion. They don't want you to know what this stuff is. They want to confuse you. And when I say they, by the way, I mean critical race theory supporters and official and unofficial. The official ones are the school curriculum designers, the school board, the administrators. The unofficial ones are people who just support it because they think it's a good thing. But critical race theory and ethnic studies are not the same thing. Ethnic studies is the healthy, positive learning of one's culture which leads to self-awareness, self-confidence, all the things that one needs to be successful in life. And critical race theory, on the other hand, is the relentless focus on only our worst moments, without giving due credit to the positive things that we have done over the last 75, 60 odd years or so.
Speaker 2:And we've come a long way. I mean in 1960, you know a very courageous young lady, african American young lady named Ruby Bridges, formerly segregated school, with adults screaming racial epitaphs at her. I mean horrible, horrible, disgusting things. And she went in there and she went to school. And then you have, you know, people like Emmett Till, who I was. It's Mississippi, it's Alabama, I always get them mixed up. I believe it's Mississippi. Emmett Till, in Mississippi 1955, flirted. He was 14 years old, flirted with a white woman and he was murdered for it right there on the street.
Speaker 2:I mean, we had a real problem and we have a problem now too, but it's not what it once was and we happen to live in one of the most racially tolerant societies in the world. The West in general is very tolerant of race, you know, of diversity of different races. You know, if you really want to see true racism, go to someplace like India, go to Asia in general, the Mideast, the Middle East. That is racism, that is, I mean, it might as well be Jim Crow still over places, in places like that. But here, you know, people of all colors have all the opportunity in the world. You know it's.
Speaker 2:If you happen to be an African-American gentleman and if you want to make a good life for yourself, you can by making the right choices. You know you don't get a girl pregnant in high school you finish. You know, and this goes for all races. Ok, you finish high school, you get your high school diploma, and this goes for all races. Okay, you finish high school, you get your high school diploma. You know, you find that you get a good trade, but there's no one that's going to keep you down or keep you away from those things based on your race alone.
Speaker 2:You know, if you can't get into a certain college, maybe you know, like me, I was not good at school. When I was in high school I had horrible grades. I ended up going to a junior college out of high school to try to get my grades back up so I could get into a decent four-year school, and so you know. I mean these things happen to people of all races, all races. So, but the worst thing, getting back to the critical race theory versus ethnic studies, the real crime is that critical race theory hijacks ethnic studies, because the people who need these positive, healthy ethnic studies programs more than anyone are children of at-risk students who, again, are often living in the worst neighborhoods, the worst cities in the country and the thing is underperforming scholastically.
Speaker 2:You know, there's something called the achievement gap where they say you know, white kids and Asian kids perform better than African Americans and Hispanic and indigenous. And they want you to think it's a race thing, but more recent research says it's actually socioeconomic. You know, if you have a middle-class family of all races, of different races, their children tend to perform about the same. You know, my girlfriend is Hispanic and their daughter is a nurse and their son-in-law just graduated from veterinary school. You know, these are high achieving, high, high achieving kids. You know, just because they're Hispanic doesn't make I mean, it doesn't mean they've done less than the white kids next door. They've probably done more than the white kids next door.
Speaker 1:Let me throw in some stereotypes real quick. Sure Of Hispanic people. You know we bailando we good at dancing and partying and flirting all that good stuff, that's what we're good at. We're not good at school, they ain't no big boy. They don't care about the school, we don't care about all of that. That's what we're conditioned to believe. I will especially blame on mainstream entertainment, television and even social media. Rather than intentional or not, they enforce some of those stereotypes.
Speaker 2:Just for the relevant discussion. Sure, no problem, but what you're saying kind of carries along with what I'm saying is you have this at-risk student of color, of any race, and they have this ethnic studies program which could help them get their life on track. Maybe they're in a situation where they don't live in the best environment, maybe, like my parents, I grew up in a single family home, you know, deadbeat dad, and my mom was in survival mode, you know. And so when I was struggling in school, you know she didn't know how to get me the help that I really needed. And even the school just kind of, you know, kind of just let me get by, so to speak, but I never really got the help that I needed because I was in a bad situation.
Speaker 2:Now, if you have a student of color who possibly could use this ethnic studies class, whenever an at-risk student, again, of all colors, gets into these ethnic studies courses, all the good things go up Better attendance, better grades, all of it. All of the bad things go down. You know they're not getting into trouble, they're not getting. You know, maybe they're not getting involved with those bad folks on the streets, you know, but if they've got this education they can look to a future. But when they don't have this ethnic studies program they don't have that hope. And without hope that's when you get kids in trouble, that's when you get the school to prison pipeline all of those things to drugs, all of the bad things. And ethnic studies provides hope for these children who may not get it anywhere else and unfortunately critical race theory salutes that source of hope for these kids.
Speaker 1:Let me just add a little historical context, Going back to that lovely young lady that had to be walked to school with I think with the Army, Ruby.
Speaker 2:Bridges right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ruby Bridges. I always forget that name for some odd reason. I remember that I had to study that. I said, oh wow, that's interesting, I have it during a republican presidency to id eisenhower he was I hate to use this word, but it's put to simply beautifully. It was really anti-racist, so it feels like a real racist republican president, which is, eh, who cares? They throw rocks at her. So be it. One less colored person to worry about. That's not what happened.
Speaker 2:No, not at all.
Speaker 1:The army protected her from those racist People Sadly mostly white at that time that were throwing A bunch of nasty words you know the N word, I'm not going to say that and I'm sure other racially insensitive remarks you know. Compare her to a certain animal, you know. You know which ones. You know Tarzan, just look at that, look at that jungle. You know which animal is pretty prevalent there. And other filthy, filthy remarks.
Speaker 2:I think we've made progress.
Speaker 1:We've made progress.
Speaker 2:We've made tremendous progress, I still believe there's room to improve.
Speaker 2:But what a lot of people don't realize is that you know, it was the Republicans who primarily fought to free the slaves. It was the Republicans who voted more in favor of civil rights. It was the Republicans who fought to end Jim Crow. It was the Democrats who were the Southern slave, the Southern Democrats, they were the slave owners. Southern Democrats were the people who made up the Ku Klux Klan. Southern Democrats were the ones who instituted Jim Crow laws. It was a Southern Democrat, robert Byrd a former Klansman, by the way, who put on the most famous filibuster in our government's history, for 70, I think it was 72 days or something insane like that. Maybe not that long, I may be exaggerating there, but it's the single longest filibuster in American history. He was a Democrat and he was trying to stop the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Speaker 2:You know, and there's this perception that Republicans are the racist people and the Democrats are not. But honestly, you know, it wasn't the Republicans who said things about, you know, president Barack Obama, like oh, he's so well-spoken. What does that mean? Of course he's well-spoken. I mean, he's a college-educated guy, you know, running for president. You know, oh, he's clean. Our current president, by the way, joe Biden referred to him as clean. Oh, wow, fantastic. We have an African-American gentleman who knows how to bathe himself once a day. I mean, you know, and those are the things you, I mean I'm not saying there aren't racist Republicans, but the Democrats. They get away with some of the most racist things you've ever heard in your life because the press protects them. And so, just just again, anti-racists are the most racist people in the world. That is, that's just the conclusion. After three years of research. That was the conclusion that I reached.
Speaker 1:My DEI experience and I joined just to see what it was all about. A lot of it in my personal experience is a sham. And you say consultants I love that word. I call it consultants. You see what I? I love that word, I call consultants. You see what I did there? A little change of the sound makes all the difference. No, no, no, I'm not going to change the letters. Consultants, not consultants, consultants.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It's not a McConaughey and they're just grifting just for money. And that's why I'm led to believe, because I have yet to see very effective DEI. I mean listeners. If you're left-leaning, you're pro-DEI. Try giving me evidence, try to convince me. So far I haven't seen much, and a lot of corporations have rejected it or they just celebrate it when it's convenient. That's what they do to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're starting to get rid of it in a lot of places and even there was an article that came out this week. My Facebook page I post, I go out and I look for stories about critical race theory, and my Facebook page, which is the title of my book and my name, it's Critical Race Theory in your School how to Fight Back, by Dr George Maurer, because I don't believe in cute titles, I, you know, put it out there. And so one of the stories that I posted that I ran into this week was a group looked at DEI in the Defense Department and what they found was that DEI is making the Defense Department less lethal, you know, and the military's job, when you get down to the core, is to kill people and break things in the defense of the United States and unfortunately, so many of these resources have been diverted enough have been diverted away from their actual mission capabilities into this social justice DEI arena that they've determined. The Defense Department is less lethal today because of DEI.
Speaker 2:And it's the same thing in these schools, you know, when you introduce critical race theory, instead of teaching math you're teaching CRT, and out here in California, a whole bunch of there's a thing called equity math out here and a whole bunch of professors, stem professors science, technology, engineering, mathematics, stem got together and they wrote a letter to the governor and they said hey, you know this equity math thing, 1,200 of them. We are not for it, we want to stop it. And what you are creating with equity math is a mathless, a brave, mathless new future. So instead of teaching algebra, you're teaching them that you should be mad at white people. Instead of teaching geometry, you're teaching white kids. They should be ashamed, excuse me, they should be ashamed of themselves. You know? Same with Trig, and I mean any class that gets introduced critical race theory in it, or DEI in the workplace, you're taking it away from what the primary goal of that organization is, or the class, or the military, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was actually very frightful for me. And you know the Army's one to accept people that is willing. You know they have that mental. You know they do it mentally, physically. All that follow commands, all that they don't. They really care about color.
Speaker 2:No, in my 22 years in the military, you know what I cared about Are you going to do your job today or not? If you did your job, I could care less what you look like Purple hair well, you can't do purple hair in the military. But I mean color, I mean race, ethnicity, gender. I don't care. I never cared. What I wanted to know was we are a group of four people, we've got to do this mission today and I want everybody in this group to uphold to do their part. Come together as a team, do your part. Nothing else mattered. And I worked with people of all races and all areas of the country, from you know, all over and honestly, people are people. They're just. People are people. You treat them with respect. They treat you with respect, unless you know, I mean you get. You get a few crazy ones in there once in a while, but for the most part, people are people.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean it kind of branched out a bit. That's OK. I'm not surprised, that's I'm. I'm used to it. Sometimes I even encourage it subtly. So you want to blame me, audience, go right ahead. I'm a grown person, I have thick skin, literally and figuratively. So come at me, I'll be OK. I'll just read your comment and ignore it. That's what's going to happen. Just document your own stupidity.
Speaker 1:I'm going to keep it there because I don't believe in censorship, but I do believe in expose the bad apples and let the Well so called Public e public square have it's moment. Okay, that's all I'm going to say About that. Yeah, no, this is great. I mean this CRT. So this DI has expanded even beyond schools. I mean, that's why I mentioned all of this. I mean, yeah, it's focused on schools, but it spread so much, it even spread on jobs and military, like you said, and you know a lot of them just dropped because it's not economically feasible. And let me use it. We're sustainable, correct, so correct. You know it's. It's.
Speaker 1:I said, look, a lot of these businesses are just going to do it when it's easy, when they got money, but once he's birthed through enough cash, they're going to let them go, and I'm not surprised in a few years I was correct. A lot of people just said wow, how do you know this? Their business? They care about making money. At the end of the day, it's that simple. It takes putting basic things together instead of being deep and ingrained and brainwashed by your own personal beliefs. Sometimes you got to go beyond that, and that's why people who are just so addicted to self are stupid. And there's a lot of biblical quotes that go against that. But I'm not going to turn this into a biblical podcast. I could easily do that if I let myself go, but I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 1:So I just want to get to a slightly nitty-gritty. How do the school administration, even the teachers? I blame some of the teachers too, because a lot of them are brainwashed and all of that. That's why they're able to pull this off. How are they aligned to their parents? What specific tactics they use? You already said it's confusing and critical design and all that, but I just want to have at least some specifics on how they're deceiving parents and, by the way, some parents have withdrawn their students out of there because of the stuff that you talked about, and some of them are very black few, even Latino, that pull out of it because they want their kid to be smart. Now they come to some Marxist minion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the specific techniques are pretty simple. You know, when you write a textbook, you know all of the good people are Democrats and people of color. You know, when you have to point out a bad person or something bad, you use a white Republican and it's that kind of subliminal. But it goes beyond that. But that's just one technique. The other technique is called the psychology of shame.
Speaker 2:Wit and Wisdom was a reading program in Tennessee, and some of the parents became alarmed from the reading materials that their children were required to do, and so they began to look into it, the adults. And when the parents were going through these books and these lessons, one at a time, they noticed a pattern Negative, negative, negative, negative, all bad, always bad. And so one of the parents went to a psychiatrist and said hey, what is this? And the psychiatrist called it the psychology of shame. And what the psychology of shame is? It's a form of brainwashing. It is the same one they used in Nazi Germany. It's the same one they used in Red China, it's the same one they used in Soviet Russia, way back when. And what they do is they are stripping what you are as a person down to nothing. You know if you're proud of your country, they tell you your country is racist. If you're proud of who you are, they tell you you are a horrible person, you are a racist, your family is racist, your skin color is racist. And once you've been broken down enough, then they can begin to institute these new ideas in there.
Speaker 2:And so, to give you an example, there was one book in second grade. Where it was, there were students, hispanic students and white students going to school in the same place, and the illustrations in one illustration showed the Hispanic children eating lunch in a cow field next to a cow pie with flies around it, while the white students were inside on a nice bench and having a nice meal. Another illustration showed the white children in a pool swimming, and Hispanic children were outside the fence and the fence was like bars, like prison bars, and there was a sign next to the pool that said swimming, public swimming pool, no dogs or Mexicans allowed. And sometimes it's subtle, sometimes it's in your face. Another thing the Ruby Bridges story. They included a photo from Norman Rockwell that he created at the time and Ruby Bridges was walking past a wall and sort of subdued but visible was the N-word Cute little girl walking, you know with her books and all. And then the N-word on the wall. It was a very famous Norman Rockwell thing and it brought attention at the time. It brought attention to what was going on.
Speaker 2:But in the book, in the teacher's guide, if none of the young students notices the N-word, the teacher is required to point it out and have a discussion about what the N-word is before taking that particular course or reading that particular book. The teaching guide instructs the teacher to ensure they become a racist and one of the things that alerted this was the woman who created this group called Moms for Liberty. Miss Robin Steenman is her name, and her daughter always described her playmates by the boy in the yellow shirt, the girl in the purple shoes. Never once did she ever call them by race. After watching one 13-minute CRT video, the phrases that black girl and that white boy became permanent fixtures in her language. In 13 minutes they stole her. They stole her innocence, basically.
Speaker 1:Listeners. I know some of you are utterly offended, especially if you are left-wing or left-leaning, independent or even some Moderates they're kind of like a wild card Sometimes moderates. But I hope you're mature enough To at least understand that or even I'm going to use this word with risk empathize with what he's talking about, because you know some parents are not going to fly with this CRT DEI stuff. I mean, you want to do that, you do that your own time.
Speaker 1:The thing I'm very critical of is in terms of what I'm very critical of is I'm very critical of is how they just brainwashed me with just all of a sudden snap. The thing is like, oh, this Spanish boy or this black kid or this white boy, whatever, yeah, now you start seeing some of that vitriol sort of creeping into their language, if I'm going to put it nicely. I mean, I try to be as innocent, but I just say, as young as nine, I start having that permanent fixture, more because of life experience. I wasn't very much for CRT, but it was like being raised in the streets. That also plays an impact, I would say, sometimes even more than critical race theory. If I'm going to throw a final counterpoint, one thing you have to understand.
Speaker 2:One thing you should understand is I'm not here saying there's no racism in America, because of course there is. Of course there is, but we've come so far. We've come so far and we have more to do. There's no doubt about it. But the positive ethnic studies courses would be a tremendous help. But the critical race theory elements are not helping. They're inflaming race relations, not making race relations better, and I think that should be. The goal of most reasonable people is for all of us to get along better, don't you think? At least I think so. But it seems like critical race theorists their goal is to make it worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll be honest, I tried to even be exposed to some of the CRTDI stuff. What was his name? Abram.
Speaker 2:X Kendi, abram X Kendi. He is a self-proclaimed anti-racist Again, self-proclaimed anti-racist who says some of the most racist things I've ever heard in my life. I talk about him in my book, as a matter of fact.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I am not surprised. I have watched his talks before and all I'm going to say is I'm not convinced, and there's even some self-contradictions to what he says.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of contradictions to what he says. And the one well, first of all, he is a self-professed Marxist, okay. What he says in the one? Well, first of all, he is a self-professed Marxist, okay. And Marxists are, you know, class warfare people. They don't like rich people. However, you know, marxists never seem to mind wealth when it's their own. They're only bothered by wealth when it belongs to someone else.
Speaker 2:Ivermex Kendi has become a very wealthy man by pushing anti-racism, and you know. And then he says things like well, critical race theory is got nothing to do with my position on anti-racism. And then, a month later, in another interview, he calls critical race theory foundational to all of his work. Okay, so which is it? You know, and you know what I mean. Honestly, that's not even what I really care about. You know, those little semantics, whatever. I don't care about that, but what I do care about is here is a man who is telling everyone that he's trying to make race better in America, but he's doing it in a way that inflames race relations. He's making African-American people more angry and focusing on only the very worst elements of our society, without giving due credit to all of the good things that we have accomplished.
Speaker 1:I would add some of the Hispanics as well, with that kind of language, angry at him or or become so ashamed that they end up supporting him out of guilt. Whatever, I'll just broaden that because I've seen, you know, the audience was mostly black. Of course there was also, some of you know, lighter skin color people as well. I want to just make sure the racial context is as pure as it could possibly be. Not easy to do, by the way. It drives me crazy sometimes.
Speaker 2:The thing is, again, he's not helping. If you've got an audience full of African Americans and they're being told they got no shot. You got no shot because the system is designed to keep you down when really it's not. It really isn't. If, if anything, affirmative action was just overturned by the Supreme Court, but up until then, you know, affirmative action ensured that people of color did not have to perform as well as white people in order to get into schools, in order to get certain things, and you know you can agree with it or disagree with it either way.
Speaker 2:But the thing is, again, this hope is being taken away from people. And if you're an African-American listening to Ibram X Kendi talk about things, dr Kendi, you may really believe you don't have a shot because America is keeping you down. And the thing is, the person who has the most control over your future is the one who's looking at you in the mirror. And you know, and there are plenty of people in this world who have not let outside circumstances control them and they've worked through them and passed them, and you know I mean nothing, there's never a perfect situation, but if you happen to be a person of color growing up in a difficult situation. Growing up in crime-ridden neighborhoods, you know parents who are struggling. Ivermex Kendi is the last person that you should be listening to, because he is stealing your hope.
Speaker 1:I know that's controversial to some of you. Well, you know what, I'm not afraid of controversy. I just think as much point of view as we share, as much as possible, even stuff I personally disagree with. Okay, I'm sure some of you are emotionally boiled up or some of you might have left this podcast. It's okay. I only want bright people, people who are willing to grow. I don't care what your political orientation is. At the end of the day, I have some wonderful left-wing people, wonderful right-wing people.
Speaker 1:The only thing I'm going to say is I am anti-Marxist and anti-communist. That's one of the few hard lines that I will draw, because that is anti-American at its core. There is no. I mean maybe with healthcare, I don't know how that's going to be executed, but when it comes to this rhetoric, divide people among racial lines it's not helping. We are regressing, not progressing, if we keep this stuff, especially if it goes out of control. I'm happy that a lot of people are fighting back against it, so there's hope. Wokeness is dying. I think the peak we already know the peak, it's right going down, down, down. The more people speaking up it is.
Speaker 2:It is, but don't expect these folks to give up anytime soon. Again, this thing that's happening has been going on for a long time. I mean again, this all started back in the 1800s, okay, and the ultimate goal of Marxism is to take down the West, take down capitalism, take down the nuclear family and to install, eventually, marxist governments around the world and eventually a one-world Marxist government. And the thing is, the United States is their main blockade at this time. They'll never get that one-world government that they're trying to find or trying to achieve as long as America exists as it is today, and so that is why they're working so hard here.
Speaker 2:And even if you outlaw critical race theory, a lot of school systems you know without saying you know critical race theory. They say that you can't teach the superiority of one race over another. You can't teach one race is to blame for past crimes. You can't say one race inherently oppresses other races. You can't say any of those things. And but just because you've taken the words critical race theory out doesn't mean the content is going anywhere and all they're going to do is just change the name to something different. That content will remain. That's what you know.
Speaker 2:If you look, one of the things that I advise parents if you think your kids are being exposed to critical race theory. One of the tips that I do in my book is, say, go out to the course descriptions online. Look at the class description. You're not going to see the words critical race theory. You may have four or five years ago, but not anymore. They've smartened up and they remove the words critical race theory, but the content remains.
Speaker 2:Look for words like oppression, marginalization, systemic racism, white supremacy. And when you see things like that, especially in a math class or, you know, a science class, what does that have to do with science, geography? Nothing, but it's in there anyway. And so and they, you know, and they out in California, they've just started something called the California Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum by the year 2030, it's mandatory and it's already been implemented in many school systems across the state. It's, you know, and it is a requirement for high school graduation. You know three math classes, two science classes, four English classes, all of that. Now it's ethnic studies.
Speaker 2:Now I went through that ethnic studies program. That curriculum the official position for the state of California is the California ethnic studies model curriculum does not contain critical race theory. Does not contain critical race theory. I went through the first 600 pages myself and I found 591 references to words like marginalization, systemic racism. I mean oppression, I mean it's chock full of CRT, even though they say it's not. So, yeah, wokeness, people are starting to stand up against wokeness and it is starting to turn a corner. But don't expect them to give up this fight anytime soon. They've been at it for more than 100 years. They're not going to just give up right now.
Speaker 1:No, no, that of course that's true, and we just got to keep fighting. Be vigilant and I love when you say changing words they change the goals, they change the world a lot. I'm not talking about Democrats. There's still some good classical liberal Democrats out there. I'm talking about the Marxist kind and some of you hitting the Republican Party too, not even slicker because you hide even better. So listen, we have to be listen, we have to be vigilant, we have to defend our freedoms. Of course you know, be proud of your cultural identity, be a person.
Speaker 1:In this podcast, I am bringing people other than white or Indian who are achieving well. This is to show you. I mean, someone's going to have these Opposite opinion that Dr Maurer is saying here, that's okay, but my point is they're being successful. They're being successful. I mean, I don't mind debates. Debates is good. Debates is exchange your ideas or defend your ideas or even modify them, wherever the outcome is. So as long as we're having that, that's good, and I'm going to continue to do that, because I already show associated whites, indians, that come to my podcast. They already show success.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to bring even other people like Latinos and Hispanics, maybe a couple of LGBTQ plus if they're willing, because I think one of them said they want me. I'll be surprised if one of them said they want to podcast because you said this and that. Well, that's too bad, that's on you. You're sensitive and you're not mature. And I know personally LGBTQ people who are against the madness that's going on right now with that, but that's a whole other beast for another day. We already covered enough here, believe me. Sadly, they're being lumped in with this mess as well. That's one reason why I mentioned them and you know a good amount of them are decent folks. They fought for their rights as well stonewall and you know all that stuff. So and I can't believe I'm saying this after their month so, anything else you want to add before I do a shameless plug-in?
Speaker 2:No, I think we pretty much covered everything, just simply that my book is titled Critical Race Theory in your School how to Fight Back, and if you're interested in the latest news updates for critical race theory, please consider following and liking my Facebook page called Critical Race Theory in your School how to Fight Back, by Dr George Maurer, and I'm there. If you want to have this discussion there, I'm more than happy to have it. However, I did have to make one rule If anybody says anything racist or hateful, I will block you and remove you Because it just it got out of hand. It just got out of hand and, of course, I was called the most horrible names that you can possibly think of, but it wasn't doing us any good. You know we're here to discuss this, to exchange ideas, to share information, and it's.
Speaker 2:You know it's hard to do that when you know 99 out of a hundred posts are you are a white supremacist and you hate black folks and you need to. You know you need to burn in hell. Basically, uh is what they've told me over and over and over and over, more times than I can count. Um, so, anyway, I had to. I, you know, I. I was in the beginning I was like you know what, I'm just going to let people have these discussions, I'll let it go. And then it just got to be overwhelming so I had to take a stand.
Speaker 1:That's happening at this point that, yeah, that's the rest. Yeah, you want to debate in disagreement, not freaking harassment.
Speaker 1:More rocks more and I'm gonna rant morons learn how different it is if you're gonna say he's racist, you better call with receipts and documentation. Yeah, I'm repeating that point. I am tired of racist, racist, you're racist, you're racist, you're racist. You are diminishing people who are experiencing real racist incidents or even discrimination. You know just shut the hell up. I'm done. I'm really done with that. Oh hey, you're racist. You're racist, You're racist. Oh, you may be dark, but I can smell white supremacy. You're wearing a mask. You are a joke.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I will go on. I will regret saying a couple of things after that.
Speaker 2:But you know Learn how to debate.
Speaker 1:Learn how to criticize the ideas Once you attack the person personally. You already lost the debate and this is not coming from me. You're right.
Speaker 2:When you cry wolf, you take away from someone who may be actually experiencing real racism. But when people are calling it out all the time, all the time, all the time, and then that one individual who really is being you know, being racist, you know they're treating him in a racist manner, him or her, you tend not to believe it. Oh, he's just another one of those people who always think everything is racist all the time. But you're right, you know, stop crying wolf and let's make sure that where we find real racism, let's deal with it.
Speaker 1:That's all I'm going to say. All right, I'll calm down. It's just my little volcanic moment.
Speaker 2:It's all right. We're all entitled to our little moments, that's for sure.
Speaker 1:No, but enough is enough. I mean, even I have a pretty thick, tired skin, but you know, it's just, it's stupidness and the same thing. I have attacked the right for their low IQ nonsense too. So I'm trying to be as fair as I can be. It's not easy.
Speaker 2:There's bad actors on both sides. Yeah, that's a lot of.
Speaker 1:And, like I said, I'm trying to be careful. I'm not saying all Democrats or Republicans, no, it's certain groups of y'all that are insane. I'm trying to keep this clean because he has a curse. If I get a curse I could just go off the ramp. They've been doing better. They've been doing better on that and eventually, maybe if I hit 40, not there yet I would probably. You know, I'm not going to make the promise because once I do, I'm going to break it. I'm going to find a little reason to break it. I'm like that I can't do promises and I'm like psychologically damaged. And then what comes out where I promise, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I probably need help, but I just hope to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for now. Okay, let me stop. Let me stop being dramatic, all right, and let's do a shameless plug in capitalism, which I'm in strong support of, even though it's imperfect, but I still believe it's the best system we have. It's the best one we have. Just be this. Communist Marxism has killed nearly countless amount of people. I wouldn't be surprised to add a billion if you want to add probably all the history Probably a little hyperbolic. Definitely hit the millions already. Definitely hit the millions. The billions is probably a little hyperbolic.
Speaker 2:About a hundred million, to the best of my knowledge. Maybe a little more, maybe a little more.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, you see, a hundred million sounds more rational. A billion is very high. Now, I'm being dramatic. I'm being dramatic. Let me speak clear. I'm being dramatic, but it's very detrimental and has caused a lot of chaos. It sounds good and promising because it's tracking a lot of the poor people that don't see hope. Like you said, they don't see hope, so they see this as their hope, ironically, because the system is against them, and that's what I'm going to say about that. So, all righty then.
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