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232- Navigating the Political Storm: The Harris Presidency and GOP Strategies

Elias Marty Season 6 Episode 22

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Is America ready for a Harris presidency? Join us as we navigate the tumultuous waters of contemporary politics, starting with a critical analysis of the recent RNC and an embarrassingly outdated Hulk Hogan speech. I, Elias, am joined by the astute and seasoned journalist Kristoff Morrow. Together, we examine Trump's unwavering supporter base, the shifting political dynamics in New York, and stress the significance of prioritizing national interest over blind party allegiance. Our discourse remains balanced and insightful, avoiding the extreme biases of mainstream networks like Fox News and OAN.

We then transition to the intense speculation surrounding the political landscape following the assassination attempt on Trump and Joe Biden's unexpected withdrawal from the presidential race. The emergence of Kamala Harris as a formidable candidate brings a fresh perspective, but she faces numerous challenges that we dissect. With comparisons to past elections and discussions on potential new political alliances, our conversation provides a comprehensive look at the evolving political spectrum and the strategies at play.

Lastly, we tackle the broader implications of Harris's candidacy on liberal values, corporate privileges, and zoning laws. We explore strategic advice for Republicans navigating this new terrain and the potential benefits of registering as an LLC for tax breaks, albeit with caution. Wrapping up on a lighter note, I share some delightful stories about my latest book, "The Second Son, Volume 3," and my beloved cat Sparkles. This episode promises a thought-provoking journey through the current political drama, punctuated with moments of levity and personal anecdotes.

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Speaker 1:

Disclaimer this episode was recorded before Kamala Harris made her decision to pick Tim Waltz as her VP. Okay, let's begin their interview. Pick Tim Waltz as her VP. Okay, let's begin their interview. Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech.

Speaker 1:

With your host, elias, I have another great reoccurring guest. If I give you the nickname, you might get it right. You might get it right quickly. The spicy little. Yeah, that's the one I'm going with. He's very laughing and, yes, I want as much political point of views. And yes, I have noticed in my metadata, in my recent metadata, it's more on the center, which is good. That means I'm achieving my goal finally getting more balanced representation instead of slightly skewering to the right. Because I'm going to repeat this again, I don't want this to be an extension of Fox OAN Newsmax. I'm about to mix it with Newsnation. I'd rather be a private with alignment with Newsnation, because that's probably more centered and that's the one I take a little more seriously, even though I'm a critical of their celebrity coverage. They're a little too obsessed with celebrities. They have to bash News Nation, even though they're more of a centrist news network, especially when they have to cover. Yes, I'm going to start right off the bat criticizing the RNC. I know it's old news to some of you, but you're going to hear my spicy take on it. Yes, I think that's the thing we should go. Spicy. The yes, I think that's the thing we should go.

Speaker 1:

Spicy the idiotic Hulk Hogan speech yes, they will talk about that. I was so triggered with that. I don't give a about this man who was stuck in 1980 in his mind. Is that Trump? Or maybe he was going to the White House? I'm paraphrasing it I don't care. You rip off his shirt. Ultra cringe worthy. That that was cool in the 1980s. This happened last month, in 2024. And my co-worker had to show me this and I was so pissed I said this fucking guy.

Speaker 1:

And even when I was a kid, I was never a big fan of Hulk Hogan. I always thought he was kind of an arrogant ass in my opinion, and that was me. As a kid, I always kind of cheered for the quote-unquote bad guy and even when I started seeing stuff when I was older, I'd say, yeah, I'm happy. I cheered for the Ultimate Warrior and the other bad guys. I was even the Hulk Hogan because, yeah, I kind of identify with the quote-unquote bad guy. I'm tired of the establishment golden boy, always succeeding, yeah, so yeah, I think as a kid obviously I was somewhat, I would say I was still center left as a kid I just thought socially they made more sense, culturally they made more sense.

Speaker 1:

To me, of course, being raised in New York City, that's practically a given, but of course, when Hulk Hogan was cool, new York was still a Republican state. Can you believe that? Well, it used to be. It used to be pretty Republican. As of now, let's fast forward to 2024, because when we get back to that time, you know it's blue. I even know Republicans made their gains, but I think they're going to lose a lot of their gains. That's my prediction, because they're crappy center-right people. These are the kind of people I would disagree with more, but they're stupid. Some of them and some of them have been sold out by AIPAC and people ain't gonna vote for that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but before I go on this is gonna be a free, full political conversation let's welcome back Christoph Morrill. He's a multi talented Guest. You're still doing writing, right, yep, he has his current profession, but he's done so much stuff Military experience, dispatcher of police the list goes on and on and on, and if you want to read his profile. I will definitely link it. So how can I put this? Let's introduce yourself to the audience. What do you want them to know?

Speaker 2:

about you. I'm Christoph Morrow. I am originally from the Deep South. I'm an award-winning journalist, an award-winning photographer. Like Elias said, I did 911 dispatching for the police. My brother was a cop too, shakespeare, I have Tourette's. My brother was a cop too, shakespeare, I have Tourette's. I'm a US Navy veteran and I've published two books so far, called Second Son Longings 1, 2, and 3.

Speaker 1:

Shakespeare. He's being humble. He's done a lot more than that. Check the profile if you know what I mean. I'm saying this like that.

Speaker 1:

The RNC had their circus. I try to avoid all RNC coverage because I already knew it was going to be circus and sadly they gave me feeds of it because I'm subscribed to certain right-wing gurus, like Mark Dice. He showed me about how Matt Gaetz trolled. What's the forum speaker say? Oh, kevin McCarthy. I said I don't care. That's not going to help with this country, that's not going to solve anything. That's what I care about.

Speaker 1:

The RNC was a clown show for the most part, and people who love Republicans are going to go there no matter what. And I'm going to quote Trump again. He could shoot someone in Fifth Avenue, they would still attend. It would be a full house. So that's how hardline they are. That's how much red pillage these people have been taking. So Trump can do something wrong. He can dress like a drag. He'll still vote for him. Yeah, I'll go there. Trump can dress like a drag and he'll still vote for him, because it's Trump. You cannot vote based on personalities. You got to look out for the country and that's just not for the right. The left is slightly different. At least they have ideas, ideologies which so far I disagree with. They at least try to fight for ideas. The closest thing that people like is Obama. Even some Democrats object to Obama because he's not progressive, he's not cool enough, that's a slightly different issue for the left.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, what kind of trends or views has caught your attention? That's the thing, like recently, whenever the Trump assassination attempt happened. First, I'm actually knew right away, like I knew, that it was not like a coordinated, like any kind of conspiracy thing based like just because, first of of all, trump's not a very good actor in certain, he's truly not. He doesn't mask well if he's feeling any particular way, some kind of way he's going to be who he is, how he's feeling. He was coming out to do the RNC speech, and I could see genuine fear in his face. Someone actually did try to take him out, and he was legitimately afraid of that attempt happening again. Frankly, I don't blame him. I don't know anything else surrounding that issue other than about the Secret Service and so on, but what it did, though, was really extraordinary. It really upset the entire. I know that, for example, trump was saying that he wanted the money back that they spent on campaigning against Joe Biden go back in, and you know there's a couple of things like okay, so I had three things that I was going to say oh, the supreme court, the fact that he, the fact that the candidacy is changing. I'm curious, curious if they're going to try some kind of supreme court ruling to say that the names on the ballots can't change this close to an election, or something like that. Because I mean they, they overturned roe v wade without any really like helpful or worthwhile precedent against it. You know what I'm saying. So they undermined the rule of law like very readily and like just I fear, for I fear in that way. So I'm concerned whether or not they're going to do something about that. If they're going to intervene on behalf of the Republican candidate, on behalf of the republican candidate, on behalf of trump, I don't know. I don't know. That concerns me. And I knew that, right, I knew that the uh, I knew that whenever kamala harris became the candidate before, whenever the trump assassination attempt happened, I was like this is over, it's over, trump's gonna win. He had that photograph of him with his fist in the air and he's bleeding from the side of his head and I was like that photograph is going to live forever and that's going to be the photo that everyone's going to sport and sort of celebrate whenever he wins. And then I mean I couldn't believe it. But he actually dropped out. Joe Biden actually dropped out of the race, and now they don't know what to do. They don't know what to do with Kamala Harris and, weirdly, I think that Kamala Harris was someone that seemed really disingenuous, I think, to a lot of people, and rightfully so.

Speaker 2:

She just doesn't look like someone who actually holds the views that she talks about before she became the nominee for president. But now I feel like she can be who she wants to be and she has a, she has a confidence that's different. If you've ever seen the interviews of Hillary Clinton after the presidential election and she's already lost to Trump. She's a likable person.

Speaker 2:

I never liked her before the election, like before the election took place and she lost and she lost. Before that I was like I was really super ambivalent about, uh, about her becoming president and but it was, you know, it felt like we had no choice sort of thing. Like there was like the establishment had chosen a candidate and I was a big, you know, bernie sanders supporter and I felt like the whole nominee process was undermined in its legitimacy by the, by the dnc, in a lot of ways. But to see her afterwards, she was like a likable, genuine person. I think that kamala harris is able to embrace that early on because she has the authority, because she has the power, she's, she's in, she's in play. I'm just, yeah, I'm, I'm encouraged.

Speaker 1:

I mean to your point. I think it's like high-stakes situation that they feel pressure. They can't really be themselves. They try to be themselves. At that time they have a greater chance of losing or they'll be at a disadvantage. I mean, look, we all face pressure and some people are just more resentful than others when it comes to that. Yeah, to your point. I think Kamala, I have seen some of her recent interviews and she's definitely doing better.

Speaker 2:

I would say definitely better.

Speaker 1:

And my biggest thing, and I even told Kamala's going to have to win it. She's going to have to adapt 300 miles per hour. She has to adapt really quick, which is unfortunate. Joe Biden should have dropped out early. That was my hot take. I got criticized for some liberals in that You're a Trumper. Well, leave me a Trump. But analyze that, what up. I already thought Joe Biden, he should have never ran. In my opinion. That's my other hot take. But you know, but that's what we get.

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 1:

I was more of a tulsi gabbard of support at that time, because I, well I saw a republican side of it. They had the chops, that trump of the three stooges, one of them, including joe walsh, which they had no chance of being oh, joe walsh. I haven't heard that name in a while, I know and I had a look come up I said, man, this dude, that's a damn, I'm researching ancient history here. Yeah, wow, joe Walsh Now he's making himself.

Speaker 1:

Relevant to Piers Morgan. I haven't watched. It's entertaining to watch for me. I think Piers Morgan's been disingenuous at times. Yeah, joe Walsh is one of the speakers over there. He's still Republican, but he's just super anti-Trump. He's with the Lincoln Project people. He's not Republican but he's just super anti-Trump. He's with the Lincoln Project people. He's not Republican but not anti-Trump. I've got to pick Kamala against Trump. His words, not mine. Go watch a Pierce Morgan clip. I'm not going to link it. You're finding yourselves. I'm too lazy. He already got enough, kamala okay.

Speaker 1:

So that's all I'm going to say about that. But I'm seeing some of that adaptation and it's not a sure thing. To your point, if they would have kept Joe Biden as of now, it would have been the easiest victory Trump would have achieved. Because, let's just be clear, I mean prior to the Kamala Harris change, trump never pulled this good. Before he was at 60%, most of his guys was like 55-45. That was for a few right-meaning polls, yeah, but there was a lot of them that was 55%. He was going to say 10-point lead is all right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Sympathy. Well, first he was gaining the lead and then that sympathy bump, really kind of I'm going to put a quote solidify his win, so to speak, in order to oppose, because it's not official yet, let's be clear I don't believe that conspiracy theory. I don't believe the election is stolen. Let's be clear about that. I don't. Trump pushes that crap. Let Trump push it. This is what I've told the left before. It's like a fair reading of the left today. Yes, I have jumped the blue pill people. Yes, you may Let Trump say what he's going to say, because he's going to say crazy things. That's going to blow up on his face. Just let him talk. Don't cancel him. Don't cancel him Just because he can spin that narrative and he's going to get that sympathy bump. I'm going to quote when you say sick, I like that. That sympathy bump and that martyr bump are what even happened. Let him speak his nonsense Like JD Vance too, with calling, you know, childless people and cat ladies and all that.

Speaker 2:

I said yeah, kamala.

Speaker 1:

Harris did stupid things. Talk about the young people voting between 18 and 24. Yeah, but you were just attacking the voting base as flaky to begin with, so it's not going to impact her that much. But what JD Vance did attacked a bunch of wrong people. So, yes, they both made mistakes. But JD Vance made a much bigger mistake when it comes to criticizing the populists. They are 20-year-olds that are not fertile. They're 30, 40, 50, whatever, of course, 50, practically fertile at this point, for the most part, if you have no biology. So JD Vance is hurting Trump. That's another thing. That's bringing Trump down. Jd Vance, the more he talks, the better it is for Kamala. Sometimes you just let the enemy Do what he needs to do, and that's why I've told Democrats Let Trump be Trump.

Speaker 1:

If I was a Democrat, his stupid craziness is going to backfire. Don't cancel him. Don't do that, and of course I'm going to say it. Big Tech Blackwell is very critical of that. You idiots, you're making him a martyr. You're making him like a victim and even, to some people's eyes, a good guy. That's why I was against that whole cancellation Restriction. No, that is speechless craziness.

Speaker 1:

Document the craziness, and I would advise Republicans to do the same thing. Document the craziness and use it for your attack ads. Okay, document that. Don't cancel, don't cancel. That's my thing. I'm pro-1A, more 1A than both parties. They both want to cancel, Even the Republicans. But yeah, back to the combo switch. It was very smart that the Democrats did the combo switch. Had to happen to keep them in line. I mean they had to. I tell them that's a day they have to switch, they have to pull a combo. They'll do a cap and do some, like the Republicans are saying Don't do that, don't do that, do a combo, just do a combo.

Speaker 1:

And yeah, I think the media is trying to just prop her as she's the best candidate ever, even though she doesn't have much of a track record as a vice president. To be clear, she has a track record as a district attorney and a senator. She has a record on that. When it comes to VP, she's flaky. She doesn't stand. She doesn't stand for what she really believes in. That's her weakness. I like that you point that out, crystal. That's a very intelligent point and she needs to be more open about what she believes in. She needs to, she needs to start owning positions, because you can't be this flaky person that says one thing and then do another thing, or switch or backtrack, and just keep flip-flopping that, that that's not gonna be so?

Speaker 2:

no, I agree with that. I feel like I'm talking about anything you want to chime in. No, I I agree with you. The way that the right did so well to galvanize their support, I think that, uh, they have an opportunity to do the same on the left with Kamala Harris. They have an excellent opportunity to really embrace a lot of liberal values human rights and women's rights, workers' rights. I'm curious how abortion is going to play into this, especially, it's the first feat in the fact that she's the first female like candidate with an actual shot at actually winning the presidency, because, like, let's get, I mean really hillary clinton, like it just, I mean, everyone saw the writing on the wall like a long time ago, like a long time before that, they were like and, uh, even I remember michael moore, you know who, who is a liberal was Trump. They asked him. They asked him, said who's going to win the election? And he said Trump and everybody laughed at him. But he was right. He was right and I think that Kamala Harris can do extraordinary things if she decides, we said, to take a position on issues.

Speaker 2:

I'm curious who she's going to pick for the vp. In my view, it should be pete budaj, uh transportation secretary in the biden administration. He's a gay uh veteran uh who serves in uh several tours in iraq, in af, afghanistan. He is a Rhodes Scholar, you know, and he just has an extraordinary record. I think that, and also, he won Iowa in 2016 when he had zero name recognition, which is huge for someone to be able to accomplish in a place that you know considers themselves like politically informed. They still chose him over all the other candidates at the time and I think that's yeah, that demonstrates a lot of insight. I don't know, I think he's, I think he would be the best candidate to go for VP.

Speaker 1:

I think. No, I think you bring up a I forgot all about that that people to judge early presidential lead that he had, yeah, he had. He had the you know I'm going to talk field game. He had the early game advantage when he I want and that's early game advantage Winning Iowa, that's the early game advantage. Yeah, and people just look at him like he's the new hot liberal star at one point, until I think Obama behind the scenes tell people, stand down, support Joe. And that's what happened. The only one that was stubbornly defiant. Who?

Speaker 1:

I knew she was going to lose was Tulsi Gabbard. I said Tulsi Gabbard, you're going to lose, just drop out of the Supreme Court. I'm a realist. I like you, suleyman, but it's mathematically impossible at this point. Come on, just get out.

Speaker 2:

It's curious why the 2016 election went as it did. Only reason that joe biden didn't run in 2016 was because his son died his son, beau. Now, if, if beau had never died and he would have run in 2016 against hillary to win and he would have won the primary, it would have been like a you know, he would have been given handed that torch directly and there would have been no real nominee process and I think he would have beaten Trump back then. He would have beaten Trump in 2016. And then this would be his second term in 2020. And we'd be dealing with a different situation. But it's so weird. It's so weird how a single person dies and it changes the entire political landscape like it did. The only reason he didn't run, he said it was because his son died, and I think that's. I think it's so wild to think about alternative history. It's good, interesting to speculate.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it could be fun too, or I could put you in a rabbit hole. Whatever, when I'm born, I like to think of alternative history. So what if Trump was just never elected? Well, I'm going. I like to think of alternative histories. What if Trump was just never elected? Well, I'm going to be lazy to take your example, because it's a good alternative history. I'm pretty sure, if we have all the universe, I'm pretty sure we do that there's a scenario like that, playing to the T as you're describing it right now. If there was no, or maybe Trump never exists, how would a political landscape look like it would?

Speaker 2:

be wild.

Speaker 1:

Or, you know, probably a universe without Obama. I wonder how that would have been. Would we not have a first biracial president? I don't know, I don't know, but you know, those are interesting things, yeah the Supreme Court picks would have been different.

Speaker 2:

I mean the Supreme Court would look completely different. I mean it would be entirely transformed, but this is the way it is now and I have a lot of Concern actually, given the Trump assassination attempt, I wonder if the Supreme Court is also on high alert. For that same, for that same reason, I mean, I would imagine it'd be quite terrifying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean they already had a few attempted hits on them just a few years ago, so they would be very naive not to be on high alert. You know they need to buff their security detail for sure.

Speaker 2:

I mean if I was in their position.

Speaker 1:

I would have definitely done that, you know. I think, my biggest critique would be just the Secret Service. But Republicans, I think it seemed like, oh, they failed on purpose so they could get Trump killed. That's the right-wing narrative for all of us. I just probably think it's just sadly incompetence. They underestimate this. Nobody, this wannabe sharpshooter who he killed someone, unfortunately. Well, my first go with that, with that man and his family. No, I you know, happy day said that.

Speaker 1:

You know I don't want anyone to. I don't want joe biden to die collapse. I don't want the same thing happen to Trump or any other candidate. It's just tragic. Whether you agree with them politically or not, it's irrelevant People, at the end of the day, if they die, even if they are white supremacists, just for that radical example, I'll say well, god rest his soul. I'm pretty Christian, I mean. Or you do whatever. It's just a process of your grief.

Speaker 2:

Everybody does it differently.

Speaker 1:

I get it and say wow, or just be in shock. I definitely don't want any of that. I don't want any of these things to happen. And sad they're there. They have the politicians that have been assassinated, the most famous one Lincoln. I think this is when the idea of Secret Service came to be, because I didn't think security detail was that great for the president at that time when he got assassinated so yeah, I just think it's just incompetence, really, I think that's what it boils down to.

Speaker 1:

They ignore reports, they ignore people saying there's a shooter in a roof, and I think that's all it boils down to. It's just incompetence. It's not they just doing it on purpose for Trump to die and some of the left-wing narrative.

Speaker 1:

Some of them say, oh, this will stay, so Trump could have, you know, higher boots in his clothes. That's another one. So I'm just waiting for the facts. Can't both of you just shut up and let me process this properly, instead of just putting these conspiracy theories and lies and the Bible does say this lies spread faster than truth. Yeah, I said, just wait for the facts. I have to say it boils down to its incompetence with the Secret Service.

Speaker 1:

At the end of the day, Now of course, we also are kind of happy that the director resigned and is doing some clean house to change the show.

Speaker 2:

Well, if you ever go to DC, you'll see. I mean, a lot of people think the Secret Service is about like 50 people or something you know and like these, like it's a very small unit detail, like it's a very small detail. It's not, it's the. The secret service is massive. If you go to dc, they are parked, they are everywhere, they're all over the city. It's incredible. It is incredible, like, the amount of people that are, that are actually members of the secret services is extraordinary. I was shocked because I thought it was. I thought it was a relatively small thing, but it's not, it's big, it's big, it's a lot of people. So incompetence is to me, just like you said. It's much more plausible than any kind of conspiracy. Shakespeare.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I would love to say this quote, that truth is stranger than fiction. I mean, you know, sometimes or sometimes, the truth is stranger than fiction. I mean, you know, sometimes or sometimes, the truth is just plain and boring.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Now that I don't want to just rephrase it like that. It's not, you know, super exciting and it doesn't have to be super exciting. Uh, you know, I'm just happy he's doing all right, having his little ear cushion that he rocks with sometimes. Well, I'm just happy he's doing all right, have his little ear cushion that he rocks with sometimes. But I'm happy he's doing all right. That's all I have to say about that. So, Kamala, I'm just going to go back to the vice presidential pick. That is going to be an important decision for her, Because this person could bring her down, which she cannot afford.

Speaker 1:

She's in some polls right now. She's being trumped by two points. As of now. She cannot afford to make sadly big mistakes. It's so unfair because she has to play catch up in turbo mode.

Speaker 2:

She's got an extraordinary amount of name recognition already, though, so yeah, she's in a lot of nobody knows what her views are like.

Speaker 2:

Nobody knows, and that's, that's a. That's more of an advantage than a disadvantage right now. I think that if the fact that she hasn't come out on a bunch of stuff is very, very deliberate, because if, like, for example and that's the other thing that reminds me, okay, so trump he really doesn't know to do with her candidacy and I don't know if he's going to try to bring out some of the same, you know, players that he had during the 2016 election and in 2020, like john bolton and you had, like steve bannon and uh, what's, what's that guy's name? N Nopolis, george Papanopolis, some of these people that were really a large part of, like, what was that guy's name? I can't remember now. He was a real skinny guy. It's going to drive me crazy. Steve Stephen, something. I don't remember his name, but anyway, yeah, because you can't, I don't think he's going to be able to harness that magic again.

Speaker 1:

No, he cannot. I mean, that's the thing he is channeling, that 2016 Trump again. I'm not sure that's going to work. I don't know. You need a new 2024 Trump? I don't know, because he's already attacking the most recent conversation with the National Black Journalist. Yeah, he already went hard on Rachel Scott and I was like ugh and it's funny, it was mixed reaction. It left me to seem like he got all booze. No, it was mixed reaction. There was some cheers and there was some. I don't think booze was more like ooh reaction. Ugh, I turned off. It was mixed reactions. Is he going to win the black vote? Of course not. Let's just get out of the way, definitely not now.

Speaker 2:

Black voters have already been 90%. They were 90% in every election, basically At least 90% Both genders, every gender in the Black Voters aid. They got 90% of those voters.

Speaker 1:

I don't know Trump's gained some lead among Black men.

Speaker 2:

I mean, he might have been, he might have before, but I don't know about now. I think that it's going to change a lot.

Speaker 1:

Black women are still the Democrats. That's locked. I'm not going to speak clear. But black men, that's an interesting dynamic. And Latinos is an interesting dynamic. I mean, the Republicans have lost a little bit of gain of the.

Speaker 1:

Latino people. But yeah, because Republicans were getting a decent amount of Latinos, both men and women. Now the Republicans are definitely getting a big momentum out of that populace, yeah, but Democrats men and women Now the republicans are definitely getting a bigger momentum model that populace, but the democrats still got the majority of them, let's be clear. They still got the majority of Latino people.

Speaker 2:

But it's definitely not as wide as the black population.

Speaker 1:

It's probably like 60 40 still favorite democrats, while black is more like overall probably 80. 20 favorite Democrats and Asians is a bit interesting, but Democrats still got that locked as well. For sure. Almost every minority group Democrat, democrat Democrat. That's a simple way of putting it, but that's the truth.

Speaker 2:

I mean they've a way of putting it, but that's the truth. It's a. I mean they've taken and black voters have like voiced this too. They've talked when they've been in, when I've seen black voters interviewed about this. They talk about how, like they've been, basically they're taken for granted the fact that they voted and vote heavily Democrat every election, nine out of ten Because in the United States the Democrats are just trying to get four out of ten. If they get four out of ten white people, then they generally win the election, which is extraordinary to me and it makes me wonder what kind of issues they're going to be bringing up.

Speaker 2:

Uh, to not necessarily to appeal to black voters, but I feel like the only social issue left and I've talked about this before, maybe not on the show reparations. That sounds crazy. It sounds crazy, right, but the thing is that I think I think they're totally, they're long overdue. But the problem is, I don't think that reparations are actually going to happen and the first reparations will be paid to companies that are using ai to monitor their employees and the employees are going to be like their performance and like, actually, if they're actually working, the ai is going to be like yo, I was watching this guy and he was playing a game the entire time, cause he never you know what I'm saying. I don't know, I don't know the biggest, because we've already knocked out every other, so I can't think of any other social issues that are pressing, that are more pressing than that to me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there's a few ideas I could break up off for the Democrats.

Speaker 2:

If they play with abortion.

Speaker 1:

That's going to definitely bring them an advantage. That's an issue that they easily win. That's their easy win on tactic Abortion, abortion, abortion. But I think Kamala's going to have to deal with the border criticism. I'm pretty sure Trump J Vance's raid they have rigged on that. She's going to have to deal with the border criticism. I'm pretty sure Trouble J advances Ray. They have Ray gone after her on that. She's going to have to find some kind of answer on how to deal with that. That's where I can see Trouble J.

Speaker 1:

Well, if they keep, then again, look, their mouths is both. Their weapon is a double-edged sword for them, because their speed could either benefit them or it could greatly damage them. They've been very reckless with their mouths, but they stick. They focus on attack her on policy. Not that she's an Indian black woman. Why don't you attack her there when she already made that mistake? Moves for the Democrats and that's what they wanted to say to Trump. Dude, you know they're going to use identity politics as a bait. He falls for it almost every time.

Speaker 1:

If I was a Republican strategist I'd say no. The attacker on the record. On the record. On the record only. Stop with the personal attacks. But Trump said I have won the presidential election, so shut up and let me do my thing. He listens to a lot of advice and this is why he has mixed success. And JD Van Su, he better stop just going along with Trump blindly, because some of the stuff he said, especially about him being racist, that's a joke. Well, that joke lost. You, lost everybody with that joke, because it's not just confusing, it doesn't make a damn sense. But if I was a Republican strategist, okay, I mean, switch your focus on real quick, just attack her on the record order.

Speaker 1:

Very bad, she can't keep calm in the interview debate. Even though that's slowly dying down, we're going to find a new attack on her. Yeah, just don't do the weird laughs, kamala. You're already doing that. Stick to your laughs. Come along, you're already doing that, stick to that. No, I have to agree with Trump on that one, sadly, because yeah, it's pretty freaking, but other than that, you know, listen, the whole world is going to be watching. She's under heavy scrutiny. So, yes, I say you're going to have to be a little uptight. I hate to say it, I wish the world was run that way, but that's reality and say it. I wish the world was run that way, but that's reality and she isn't proving anything. She's keeping more calm polls. That demonstrates and exudes leadership. That's what people are looking for.

Speaker 2:

So let Trump be a child. Yeah, regardless of Trump's candidacy, even if it were like Mitt Romney or something that she were up against, she would still be a very, very, very strong candidate for president.

Speaker 1:

She would easily beat Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney was boring, a very corporatist punk, in my opinion. I think even with her crazy laugh, she would have beat Mitt Romney. That's how bad this is. Yes, I will throw that in there. I did not vote for Mitt Romney. That's how bad this is. Yes, I will throw that in there.

Speaker 1:

I did not vote for Mitt Romney and Republicans could have easily won my vote in 2012 because I was starting to get disillusioned with Obama. But they didn't. They got rid of Ron Paul, just like they did with Bernie Sanders ranking the primary. They did in favor of Mitt Romney and said bye, I'll vote for Obama again, thank you. Thank you. You made your decision, I made mine. You could have got this registered moderate Democrat to go to your side if you would have picked Rob Paul. Because Rob Paul, yeah, rob Paul, rob Paul. At the time he was doing good, he had the best Republican ideas, but they didn't want good ideas. They wanted some corporate, boring person and that was Mitt Romney. That's okay, goodbye. I don't know what he's about. He's a corporate chill and I'm anti-corporate that part I'm at the left with. I don't like corporate chills because they look out for the corporations ruling the country and I, no Goodbye. Obama got my second vote. Begrudgingly, he got my second vote.

Speaker 2:

I saw something recently. This guy gives advice on how to live independently. For example, if you and your friends wanted to buy a plot of land and live on that plot of land together, you're not allowed to do that. If it's not zoned for that, then you're not allowed to do that. If it's not zoned for that, then you're not allowed to do that. But if you and you can actually be, each person that lives there, each household, would be fined individually. But the thing is that if you were a corporation and you bought the land and then you had people living on it, then they can't. They can only find one entity. Isn't that strange?

Speaker 1:

That's really, I mean so I think it speaks to a larger corporate privilege, that's. I think that you is going to be a very weird example. Work with me, audience or roast me, Do with you what I'll be fine. At the end of the day, it's just words at the end of the day. Rather I value them or I reject them. That's up to me.

Speaker 1:

If a person can register themselves as a corporation, whatever, you actually get some tax benefits. You get some privileges. People, if you have some spare money, you don't know what to do with this spare money, register yourself to LLC, do a business you're passionate about. You're going to get some tax breaks, Okay.

Speaker 1:

Disclaimer I am not a tax expert, so do not sue me for any tax advice. If you listen to this, don't buy with tax advice, you're a fool. Okay, anyways, I think If you listen to this, don't buy with tax advice, you're a fool. Okay, anyways, I agree. Yeah, so.

Speaker 2:

I think those benefits exist. Some some of them are are are thoughtfully advanced. You know, like it's not, it's not just silly, you know I scratch like corruption, it's truly like because like we need, we need businesses, we need successful businesses, you know, and tax breaks are a necessary part of, like promoting small business. But there's a lot of things it's not small, a lot of businesses that are.

Speaker 1:

Oh, absolutely I am. I'm sympathetic towards small business. That's my position. I try to support them whenever I can. Big corporations I mean. I have no choice but to. I support Amazon until I get something from them. So, whether I say it or not, my actions, well said, I kind of support Amazon, I get myself through them, even though I had pro-union people kind of tell me directly don't support Amazon. I said, what do you want me to do? They're the biggest warehouse deliverer in America and they give me some deals. I mean, as a consumer it's hard for me to resist. But you know. So if you want to talk to me and be a little bit hypocritical, then yeah, there's ground for that. To be a little bit hypocritical, then yeah, there's ground for that. I mean, at times I support big corporations. I'm not against big corporations, but we do need businesses. So I'm happy you said that, not just so I cannot call you a communist, because communists are practically anti-business and they just smuggle them or whatever.

Speaker 2:

No, I believe in regulated capitalism.

Speaker 1:

Yeah same, Not that laissez-faire libertarian capitalism. That's a disaster. I used to believe that. I used to believe that, but that's dead to me years ago. We need some regulatory capitalism, we need some regulations. That's all I'm going to say. What do I say today? By the way, we were talking about earlier capitalism.

Speaker 2:

We need some regulations, that's all I'm going to say USA Today. By the way, we were talking about earlier VP picks. Usa Today says one is Josh Shapiro and the second is Pete Buttigieg. Josh Shapiro is the Pennsylvania governor. For people that don't know, I'm telling you it's going to be Pete Buttigieg. I'm telling you it's going to be people to judge. I'm telling you, I bet, I bet, I bet my bottom dollar on it. Seriously, it's going to be people to judge.

Speaker 1:

There you go. You hear for the record Chris Hussko with people to judge, and I can see reasons for it.

Speaker 2:

I mean he's the most charismatic. Yeah, he's incredibly charismatic. Together he's incredibly charismatic. He's got more name recognition than all the other candidates that I have seen submitted.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true, even more than Josh Shapiro.

Speaker 2:

And you know what the Pennsylvania governor, the fact that Josh Shapiro, first of all, they need Pennsylvania and they need him in that position. They need to keep Pennsylvania, the governorship of Pennsylvania, they need to keep Pennsylvania, the governorship of Pennsylvania. They need to keep the governor of Minnesota, which is another candidate, and they also talk about Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, another one. I mean these are advanced, but truly they have to remain where they are because they're more useful in those positions than they would be as vice president. Pete Buttigieg, on the other hand, is going nowhere but up. You know what I'm saying? He has, no, he doesn't, he doesn't need to remain on the same level where he's at. I don't know what he's accomplished as a transportation secretary, but I would imagine quite a lot, given how intelligent he is well the trump.

Speaker 1:

Well, the trump could attack him on the record, that's for sure and advance where they have their little debate. But let's see what JD Vance has accomplished Not much, based on what I was able to gather, except for weird stuff. Yeah, that sticks with me for a second, especially those commentary and all of that. I think you're onto something. Yeah, you got to keep them in those positions because Minnesota is not a solid blue state. If Democrats mess up once or twice it could flip red Minnesota. I think it's a triple, it's blue.

Speaker 2:

It's blue all the way in, every it's blue. It's a trifecta, it's a Democratic trifecta right now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but by a certain majority. They have the governorship and they have the Supreme Court, the state Supreme Court, I think they're all blue, I think for presidency it's not as solid blue as people want to think. Oh yeah, for the presidency. Yeah, I'm talking about the presidency.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, in terms of state.

Speaker 1:

no, no, minnesota is still blue To your point, it's still blue Interesting.

Speaker 2:

That's interesting. That would be an interesting disparity.

Speaker 1:

departure to see.

Speaker 2:

Minnesota voting Republican yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I think Republicans have made some gains there, but don't underestimate, because that's what gains could increase. So you know to your point they need to stay there. They're better just to keep that spot. Blue.

Speaker 2:

Well, the more people that vote generally in every election, the more that voting is available. Democrats win those elections and I would imagine that the fact that the supreme, the state supreme court and the governorship and the and the legislature those three things are going to enable the most voting like the most, the biggest turnout, and the more turnout the better, the better it is for democrats in states. I'm curious. I'm curious how states are going to. I, I, I don't know it doesn't feel as contentious. Am I alone in that? Like it doesn't feel as contentious in terms of, like you know, back in 2020, we had people with guns like sitting near voting booth, like sitting near voting centers, like like sitting near voting centers Like they were armed and masked and and just sitting there, just kind of in in Texas anyway, and I thought I was like, oh my God, like this is, this could be catastrophic.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's not that crazy pandemic restriction, so let's get that thing out of the way. That made people loony. That played a major role in that and I was against some of the restrictions. I would have done a plan just to separate the vulnerable, have safe zones for those and then have the regular society continue. They'll have to draw some zones and things like that.

Speaker 1:

That would have been my idea as a moderate just to keep vulnerable people safe and let the rest of society kind of run as normal until the situation should continue. That would have been one of my ideas. This is why I bashed the government. They should have created more grants to expand hospitals, especially if another pandemic happens, at least by 30% nationally. I'm a cat, so that's all I'm going to say about that. That's me a tax officer, government general. I don't care left, right, center, whatever. That's why I think they're not taking. We are not learning our lessons from that unfortunate year and if another one happens I think we're going to be just as unprepared. And because politicians don't care, people don't care, we have short-term memory loss and all of that.

Speaker 2:

So that's the sad truth, but to your point, Pete, putting a judge is.

Speaker 1:

I think that's a good guess for a VP pick. It makes a lot of sense. He's a millennial.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's going to appeal to white voters that pretend in terms of Democrats, the Democrats that harbor racist views, but they don't really want to talk about it kind of thing. These are like suburban Democrats that are afraid of black voters. They're going to be relieved to find Pete Buttigieg on the ticket. Frankly, that's just the way they are. I know these people because I grew up around them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think they can't be too radical up around them, yeah, and I think they can't be too radical. I mean, I think a Westmore would have been a great pick, but it looks too dark and you know people are just not ready for that radical change.

Speaker 2:

Me personally.

Speaker 1:

I would say Westmore. I think he's a great leader and Maryland is a safe state. But he just started his governorship. I just think he has to finish one term and then build that name recognition. I think he'll be ready for president someday. I think he's the best Mark and Mark Kelly. He's a strong Democrat. But he needs to be in Arizona because if they let go, that state could easily turn back, because if they let him down it's still Republican majority, not the governor, but the House of it's still Republican. So that could easily blow up in their faces.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah that's a very. These are good points. I'm not going to argue with you there.

Speaker 1:

They make great sense. Alrighty, then, I don't think we already covered a lot. We covered a lot. It was a great back and forth. So, listeners, I really hope you're enjoying this back and forth conversation. I didn't have really any topics planned, because there's so much going on. I mean, we both have to be living under a rock for this conversation to die. I want to live under the rock sometimes because it's just too crazy. I just want to recover. I don't want to faint into the news.

Speaker 1:

I don't care if the nuclear explosion happens, I just want to be under a rock.

Speaker 2:

I live under a rock, elias. I tell you I would get so nervous around 2020. I was in DC, DC, during the 2020 election. That's how political I was Like when the election night. I was in, I was in front of the white house. I wanted, I wanted to see, I wanted to be there when the election happened, but then I stopped watching the news completely around 2022. And my impression, of course but you know, I I still get stuff that's it's going to come through, and my impression is that the Republicans don't know what to do now and the Democrats are like sort of hiding in wait. They're like they're ready to pounce. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean. I mean the Democrats were in disarray but now they're getting back together. They're recuperating, they're uniting.

Speaker 2:

The.

Speaker 1:

Republicans are more disarray right now with the JD fans. Someone told Trump drop this guy. So I said no, no, give him time. So Republicans are going through that mess behind the scenes with this JD Vance pick. So it's still anyone's race. That's all I'm going to say, but it's going to be a very interesting one. I got a bit. The Democrats made it very interesting for me again. I was almost going to say, yep, trump got it.

Speaker 2:

Trump got it, that was a foregone conclusion to me too.

Speaker 1:

But Democrats were very smart. They, obama, the Nancy Pelosi's of them, they said, oh, we need to switch or else we are doomed. And I think it would have been a pretty, I think the red wave would have been coming, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I think, they're at least mitigating it. I can say confidently Will they fully prevent it? Well, we'll find out with the election results. I think the Republicans are going to take the Senate. I think that's the only thing. That's almost a foregone conclusion. Maybe by one or two seat majority. That's my guess, really, even though seats are up for grabs. But I think the Republicans are going to take the Senate. That's just my guess. The Democrats are going to take the House.

Speaker 2:

That's my guess. Which states are up for the?

Speaker 1:

Senate Montana, that's a red state. John Tester yeah, that's a red state. John Tester's a Democrat, right? No, yes, yes, he's a Democrat and his name recognition that again, john Tester is anti-abortion right yeah, I think it's that moderate he has to kind of go along with that narrative just to keep that he has to play very moderate.

Speaker 1:

Jackie Rosen is vulnerable, but I don't think it's enough to boot her out. I think Sherrod Brown is in danger because Ohio is just getting red for all. Ohio yeah, ohio is red. He's a Democrat is in danger because Ohio's just getting red for all.

Speaker 2:

Oh Ohio, yeah, ohio's red, he's a Democrat.

Speaker 1:

He's a Democrat who has to defend that seat. I think there's only two seats, oh and West Virginia. That's a free grab because Joe Manchin's done. He was the only Democrat with enough name recognition just to keep that seat, he said he loses.

Speaker 2:

Joe Manchin is up for re-election. Yeah, he quit enough name recognition, just to keep that seat.

Speaker 1:

He said he loses. Yeah, he's done. He quit, he's done. That's an easy steal for Republicans. That's why I'm predicting Republicans are going to take the Senate. I think the Dems are going to take the House, even though the polls are saying this kind of Republican. No, I said no. Let the Republicans keep being stupid. I'm predicting a 5-10 seat majority.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, this close to the election, they don't have somebody already to take Joe Manchin's seat? Yeah, you're right, the Senate's going to be taken by Republicans, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's foregone conclusion. I mean, if you want to come up with a good case to argue against it, I'll be willing to listen. You can't defend them all. It's not feasible. So maybe the next, what is it? 2026? Maybe Democrats could steal some. Maybe more Republicans are up for re-election on that.

Speaker 2:

That's going to depend entirely on Kamala's first two years in office.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true. The midterms is normally a condemnation and reprimand. I'm probably not doing crazy, so I think that's where Republicans could probably retake the House. I don't want to get too far ahead. This is already crazy enough. I don't want to get too far ahead. Anything else you want to add before I wrap this up and do the shameless pumpkin?

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

You know he's a liberal, but he is sound. I care about people who form logical analysis. It doesn't have to be agreeable. I don't care about your personal comfort, I don't. It has to be logical, or it could come from a creative place. Okay, this podcast is not here to make you uncomfortable. I brought in some libertarians place. Okay, this podcast is not here to make you uncomfortable. I've brought in some libertarians okay, even though I don't agree with a lot of their point of views. Hey, I'll allow them to come in. I should probably bring a green candidate one day. That'd be one day, probably someone for the Green Party.

Speaker 2:

A Green Party supporter, oh man.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I'm going to achieve that, but I'll try.

Speaker 2:

You're going to have to find one of the eight people that are doing the Green Party.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you hear that Green Party. You got to grow your party. That's what he's saying. Nicely.

Speaker 2:

If I'm going to interpret it in a nice language.

Speaker 1:

Grow your party.

Speaker 2:

So that's all I'm going to say about that.

Speaker 1:

All righty, let's plug in that book. You already talked about it. What books?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, the one that I just published is this one, the Second Son, Volume 3.

Speaker 1:

Get that book, increase your literacy.

Speaker 2:

That's a joke. As a joke, I thought it would be funny to put my cat on the back for a month. I did it for a month, that was it, oh that was a limited edition. Yeah, it was a limited edition. The cat tax edition, it's supposed to be ridiculous.

Speaker 1:

Oh, cat fans, you're going to be disappointed if you didn't get the chance to get it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's over chance to get in.

Speaker 1:

Yeah it's over. I'm a cat person. Damn, I feel teased. I'm pro cat. Cat lives matter. I'll go hard for the cats.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, cats are great. I have a cat. My cat's name is Sparkles and she's an old lady. Now I don't know where she's at right now, but this was my first one, but anyway, it's an epic fantasy. It's about it's like three storylines that all come together and you know it's about a lot of stuff Pirates, giants, empire, slavery, battleships, all kinds of stuff. It's pretty dope, if you want to escape this dual political reality get that book Trap yourself into a fantasy world.

Speaker 1:

So there you go. All righty then. So from wherever or whenever you listen to this podcast, you have a blessed day, afternoon or night. Thank you,

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