The Power of Tiny Steps Towards Grand Ambitions

Ever found yourself on a beach dressed completely wrong for the weather? That's exactly what befell Daniel on our recent Floridian escapade. From battling the heat in jeans to getting a whiff of the ocean's less aromatic side, we've got tales that'll make your day. Plus, Tanyalee Davis, an incredible little person with a big personality, joins us to share her humor and wisdom on life from her unique perspective. Our adventure becomes even wilder with stories of lugging podcast gear sans vehicle and a scooter incident you won't want to miss.

Setting goals can sometimes feel like chasing the horizon, but we're here to show how breaking them down is the key to empowerment. My own journey from doubting my success to understanding the power of determination underscores our chat on the thrill of achieving those checkmarks. We're all about inspiring you to chase those dreams, and we've got the insights to help you turn that distant horizon into the ground you walk on every day.

Now, let's talk heart-to-heart about the tough stuff – confrontation and feedback in our relationships. Sharing my own hurdles in facing issues head-on, we explore how honesty builds stronger bonds and authenticity in our connections. And because life isn't all about the tough conversations, we'll serenade you with stories of creative pursuits, from songwriting to releasing music on Spotify – imperfections included. These are the moments that remind us why we pour our hearts into our passions, whether it's a tune for a loved one or a project that marks our personal growth. So, curl up with us as we spin yarns that celebrate the laughs, the goals, the tough talks, and the tunes that make life's journey an adventure worth sharing.

Transcript

Daniel Lawson: 0:00

What's going on everybody and welcome back to another episode. And remember I'm Daniel and I'm Jordan and we're Daniel and Jordan. What a week it's been. You've been busy. I've been very busy.

Jordan Hunter : 0:32

And down to Florida and back Florida and back.

Daniel Lawson: 0:34

and you know it's so weird because I was telling Whitney the weather that, like it was 80 degrees, I show up in pants. That's all I packed was jeans. That's not the panties thing right now. And it was beautiful like in the morning times it was like 65. You know that? Just that cool breeze, how long till y'all move there. It feels so good. Oh, I'm not moving there. The beach kind of stinks. You just smell fish all over the place. But dude, it was beautiful. It was beautiful it meant with Tanule Davis.

Jordan Hunter : 1:03

Yeah, yeah, you've got stories for me.

Daniel Lawson: 1:05

I got some stories for you and stories for you as well. So Tanule is a she's a dwarf. Okay, which is the little person? We're not going to say the M word because it is very offensive Well, not on podcast. But, tanule, you could call her a midget, she will not care, she's like I don't care, she's just got that mentality. You know, she's super cool and very inspiring, but extremely funny too. So, first things first, I picked up a midget. I picked her up, I picked her up how much she weigh.

Jordan Hunter : 1:39

She's about.

Daniel Lawson: 1:41

So just to give you guys, and you know, a height picture she's three foot three.

Jordan Hunter : 1:49

Three foot three, so that's as long as what.

Daniel Lawson: 1:52

Three feet three inches. Yeah, it was probably like she probably comes up to my kneecap like honestly, that's crazy. She's so small and the type of dwarfism she has is where, from the from her head to her torso, she's normal, right, it's, it's her limbs that are what's short on her. So everything's normal, although she has a huge ass.

Jordan Hunter : 2:19

She's got a donkey.

Daniel Lawson: 2:20

Okay, the matter is but so before we even started, we're having this podcast. It's at a like a like a tall table, like at a bar or something right, and we have bar stools and I'm kind of looking at her. She rolls in on the scooter and I'm looking at the bar, so and I'm like so how are we going to do this? She's like so I take it, she never picked up one of us before. I was like no, not, not ever. So so she gave me a how to pick up a dwarf one on one crash course you run at me through that so what you do is safety is number one priority, because if she was to fall at that kind of height, her bone density and structure you're reliable she would yeah, she would sue me or be dead, the worst, but what? So? What she does is she's like. She tells me, she's like all right, I need you to pick me up with your forearms, not your hands. Use your forearms and get behind me, but don't get any ideas is what she told me with a little wink so I get behind her. She kind of like presses down on on her arms, you know, and I just literally lift her up, like this hand to hand yeah, she's like oh, her hands are on your forearms, she's using you as yeah and I just kind of whoo, because she's only like 80 something pounds, yeah, and you know 70 of that's in her ass the rest is in her body but I pick her up and then I just sit her on the stool and she's like we, and then so yeah, I picked up a dwarf. That would be super awkward. You never picked up one of us before, have you know this was so we had dinner the first day. This was like the day of the podcast, so day two I got to pick her up which was. I was going down there wanting either her to sit in my lap or pick her up, moving pretty fast for Daniel, so I crossed I crossed something off the bucket list.

Jordan Hunter : 4:11

I mean, who can say they picked up a dwarf, not me.

Daniel Lawson: 4:13

I mean not many people listening.

Jordan Hunter : 4:15

I would imagine that's I feel special list. Hopefully it's not contagious your new dreams gonna be pickups a couple more yeah.

Daniel Lawson: 4:26

I'm gonna be like on dwarfcom or something like hey, can I, can I pick you up, baby? But another funny thing. So I have this giant tote for all this equipment. Okay, it's heavy, and when I went to the airport I have to pay like a hundred extra bucks because it's over the weight limit and it was a. It was 87 pounds to be 87 pounds.

Jordan Hunter : 4:50

How heavy your bag is?

Daniel Lawson: 4:51

yes, 87 pounds and is it a rollers? It's, it's got two wheels. Okay, but I didn't get a rental car this time and I made a mistake. Okay, I made a mistake, I should have got a rental car. And I saw I was in the hotel and Tanya Lee texts me or calls me or whatever the first day and she's like, hey, I'm gonna come scoop you up. I'm like, okay, cool, thought she was driving. No, she drove her scooter, a little three wheel scooter, to pick you up to pick me up, put you on the back of it no, she made me walk. She maybe walk to dinner. Okay, and yeah, see so bag.

Jordan Hunter : 5:29

You had to carry the bag everywhere the bag comes in next.

Daniel Lawson: 5:32

So on the day of the podcast I was like, hey, I think I should probably Uber to the, to the car practice place, which is two minutes down the road, it's not. She's like oh no, just we'll put it on the back of my back of my scooter and I'm like, hey, this thing's 80 something. You're gonna be riding a wheelie down down the road, so you know, I end up Uber in there and then on the way back and she's like I really, you know she's 53, so she's stuck in her ways. Yeah, and she's all about saving money. Okay, she's like we're not buying, we're not getting you an Uber to go two minutes down the road. I'm like are you sure? I'm like it's seriously, it's okay. She's like put it on the back. She didn't have a luggage rack or carry or anything. She literally scoots up and keep. She's so short she has to have a step stool at the bottom of the the thing, so to like put her feet on. But she scoots way up and I set this big luggage rack on the back of her scooter. I have a picture of it and I will. I will send it so you can post it up, okay, and she's like you gotta take a picture of this. You never seen a midget packing some luggage on the back of her scooter. So we walk four miles down the road while I'm walking beside. Four miles, yes, I'm walking beside her. Yeah, four mile walk, maybe a two minute drive, right. So four miles down the road I'm walking a dwarf carrying a giant load of luggage on the back of her scooter.

Jordan Hunter : 6:52

And, oh my, God, that was Sarasota, Florida. Yeah, Sarasota.

Daniel Lawson: 6:55

Florida. I mean, it was just, it was so funny and I walked everywhere. We went downtown Sarasota. She took me to the post office. She had to send off a bunch of letters for it, like she was signing her name on these pictures or whatever. She had me lick all her envelopes for her. She had me get her envelopes, lick them and then stuff them. And then she goes in line and I'm sitting here with all these envelopes. I'm thinking, well, maybe I should follow her back in line. You know like so she just she used me and abused me. That day. And I walked, dude. When I got back, I felt like I had been beat with a bat. I probably walked over 50 miles while she rode. At one point I was like hey, I'm gonna need to hop on the back of this bitch. It was so funny, though, but I lost every bit of, because you know, when I go out, I try to eat a little like eat some Reese's.

Jordan Hunter : 7:48

What do you mean?

Daniel Lawson: 7:49

Like you go out, you eat a little bit Reese's, yeah like like if I go out, if I travel, I like cheat on my diet. Oh, yeah, so I was. You're working, yeah, I'm working, and it's like I got to eat something on the go quick, you know. So I may have ate a couple packs of King size. Reese's you know, because I love my peanut butter and chocolate. And yeah, I walked every bit of that off.

Jordan Hunter : 8:14

So that's awesome. Yeah, that's good, though you weren't going to the gym anyways, right so?

Daniel Lawson: 8:19

no, I'm officially not soaring my arms, because you know I had to hold it while we were scooting down the road and but yeah, man, it was a fun trip.

Jordan Hunter : 8:29

Well, you know, I'm getting the gym nowadays, are you really? Yeah, I'm back.

Daniel Lawson: 8:33

How many days a week?

Jordan Hunter : 8:34

Lately. I've been going probably five days this past week.

Daniel Lawson: 8:37

Are you on the?

Jordan Hunter : 8:38

stair stepper. No, no, no, I've got canes. Got me on this. I'm running for 30. Oh, y'all are going together, yeah that's good, whenever I can get her there.

Daniel Lawson: 8:47

She's got your schedule.

Jordan Hunter : 8:49

You're going to the gym, buddy, and so I run five or walk five minutes, run five minutes, walk five minutes for 30 minutes on and off, and that's good to get your heart rate and that target. Yeah, apparently you're supposed to do that for 150 minutes a week, so 30 minutes like five times 30 minutes five times a week. Oh, dude, it's.

Daniel Lawson: 9:10

I feel great for the first time in my life.

Jordan Hunter : 9:12

I feel healthy, like. I feel like I got you. What about you're?

Daniel Lawson: 9:14

sleeping. How are you?

Jordan Hunter : 9:15

sleeping. I sleep like a baby all the time.

Daniel Lawson: 9:17

Oh OK.

Jordan Hunter : 9:18

I've already got that old man thing where you just pass out in the chair during the movie. The intro of the movie as soon as they start talking.

Daniel Lawson: 9:25

Yeah, you're gone from the intro I'm like what was that movie about? So what about energy? Wise now, like throughout the day.

Jordan Hunter : 9:33

I just feel like afterwards I go and get my little pump on you know, and then you know that, feel it when you're looking at the mirror and you're like my girl's going to love your big AF. I might write the end, all these girls might be looking at me.

Daniel Lawson: 9:48

They're staring at my butt right now.

Jordan Hunter : 9:52

That confidence that it gives you, man, oh yeah, our thing.

Daniel Lawson: 9:55

Yeah, do you shower after?

Jordan Hunter : 9:59

No OK.

Daniel Lawson: 10:02

I didn't come prepared for that one Dude shower and so you need to try to shower at the gym, at the gym, at the gym, after your workout, in like a cool, cool water.

Jordan Hunter : 10:13

It feels so good, dude oh like a nice bath, the kind of thing I mean like a cold shower.

Daniel Lawson: 10:18

Yeah, cold shower, not like to where it's like taking your breath, but like cool. It's just relaxing and you just feel like you're ready to take on the world?

Jordan Hunter : 10:26

I do. Have you ever done like a nice bath in the morning? You know? That's all popular right. Yes, I bought the thing but I never even used it.

Daniel Lawson: 10:33

Yeah, I wouldn't either.

Jordan Hunter : 10:34

Because I was like I can't even do it cold shower in the morning, so you bought the tub.

Daniel Lawson: 10:37

I bought.

Jordan Hunter : 10:38

What do you mean? It's a cheap one if I am as on. But yeah, dude we should do it. It's still in the box and we should do it for the. We should, that's a good idea, but they say it's the closest thing to cocaine you can do, naturally.

Daniel Lawson: 10:49

Wow, I guess just the way I have to put that for the test. No.

Jordan Hunter : 10:53

I'll let you know, but yeah, I don't know of several people who do it. You know it's very popular. You can do the cold shower, but apparently it's supposed to just like. The way it wakes you up is supposed to be just insane.

Daniel Lawson: 11:05

Yeah, I'd say so.

Jordan Hunter : 11:06

I don't, I don't. I go to the gym in the afternoon so I don't want to necessarily be like whoo yeah at like 6pm yeah.

Daniel Lawson: 11:14

I'm ready to go again. Give me 24 more hours, baby yeah that would be crazy. What do I got to do next? Another 10 miles? Okay, that's funny. Well, what else? What else? You can't even got going on.

Jordan Hunter : 11:26

Well, you know, just this week's been an organization week, trying to get all my to do list of the things I want to do Right From us podcast Couple. Got my whiteboard up. I've got my my boxes to check things off. It's a way to do it trying, yeah, so I can see my accomplishments as they happen. And I've got too many boxes to check, but I'm excited to check them to be honest.

Daniel Lawson: 11:50

I was always told my old boss said he always asked us how do you eat an elephant? You know, talking about looking at the big picture of things and it's one bite at a time. Check it off one thing at a time. You know, don't look at the whole thing. Look at list by list and go down there and you know, conquer your goals.

Jordan Hunter : 12:08

And that's part of the thing is that where we're saying like you get started after a year, you look back and you see you did a Lot. So yeah it's the whole idea, one day at a time right.

Daniel Lawson: 12:16

Do you have any checks right now? Currently any wins on your board?

Jordan Hunter : 12:20

Yeah, I did the yesterday, I'm going to you to figure out how to make the intros so you're not intro the shorts.

Daniel Lawson: 12:25

Yeah, that's good man. Yeah, that was the only one, but how do you feel as you're marking through that stuff?

Jordan Hunter : 12:31

Oh, I'm calling Cainie in the room. All right, I'm trying to get laid.

Daniel Lawson: 12:38

Yeah, my man, I try to call Whitney in here to show her some stuff. She's like Daniel, I know nothing about this and I'm like, but but it looks good though right?

Jordan Hunter : 12:47

Yeah, that's the point. You don't know anything about it. I figured it out.

Daniel Lawson: 12:50

Yeah, that's so funny, I love it. So we usually come into these with a word of the week, you know.

Jordan Hunter : 12:58

I've been giving us some thoughts. Yeah, what I think this week. Just to start off this podcast in the right way. I think I want to talk about achievable. I want To combat hopelessness. I think it's important for us to know that things are achievable. Yeah and that your goals are achievable. There are people out there who do something similar typically, and that the fact that those people have done that shows that it is possible, that your dreams are possible. There's no laying around feeling hopeless about it is. I understand that feeling and I've felt that way about many of my dreams. And it's not that I've achieved my dreams right now, but I feel like I am achieving a Path to my dreams and I think that's important for people to just know that there are things are achievable for what you want to do. It's not just people aren't just getting lucky doing what they're doing. Yeah they are doing the work and they might be getting lucky also, but they're doing the work to achieve those things and it's important to know that that's possible for you as well, I think yeah, and I think too, Making those achievable goals reachable you know, that way you kind of get empowered, I guess, if that's the right word by the time.

Daniel Lawson: 14:09

Yeah, at whiteboard with checkmark boxes All achievable and making those things reachable for you. That way, you know, when you do win, you feel good about it and it motivates you to go to that next level of whatever goals you're trying to reach.

Jordan Hunter : 14:25

Yeah, 100% yeah. Knowing that it's possible, just that piece alone, and just focus on Knowing that it is possible to reach those things and that it's a reality. It's not just some made-up dream world, it's not Disney Princess, it's not all that that these things do happen in the real world and that they are possible for you as well.

Daniel Lawson: 14:47

Yeah, so what? What made you? What made you pick that word this week? I think?

Jordan Hunter : 14:51

for me a lot of my life. I just felt a lot of like so-and-so guys, they're lucky that they have that situation and that's how they got popular, or or whatever those things were that.

Daniel Lawson: 15:04

I was using. He or she knew the right person to talk to her. Go to, yeah.

Jordan Hunter : 15:08

And I was just making up excuses in my own mind of why they have something I don't and the ultimate reality is I'll never have that they have because their situation is completely different than mine. Right, the whole life is different than mine. I can make my own reality right. Something my own thing and achieve something, that you can be the top guy at your work. You can be that person. You don't have to be the bottom worker, you don't have to be just wherever you are and settle. Unless that's what you want, a hundred percent, do that. If that's what you want, yeah. If you're wanting to be a person who's Humble, a person who's all these things, those things are achievable and that's by doing it. To be that person. And yeah, I think it's important to know that it's possible, or else you feel hopeless. Yeah you don't feel like you it could ever achieve those things.

Daniel Lawson: 15:58

Yeah, and don't judge yourself Against that other person too you know, because we're all built different. If we were all the same, like you were saying, the world Would be boring or it would be really cool. I really don't know.

Jordan Hunter : 16:09

It just depends on what kind of person we all, they were all, it would be one sexy world.

Daniel Lawson: 16:15

But you know, we're all built different so you can't judge your goals or your success off of your neighbor. You know what I mean, because it's just really hard not to do that.

Jordan Hunter : 16:24

I and I wonder because, like with my friend group, we've all been very just like a lot of times, like we're better than other people and like the reason why things haven't worked out is because of so of x, y and z and. I think a lot of people feel like that in the world. They feel like they're special, but the world is cruel and that's why I don't have the things that I want. And the reality is is that we're all kind of special in their own ways and we all have strengths and weaknesses, and it's important to know your that you have weaknesses. Oh, yeah, yeah it's yeah, and that your weakness might be that You're not in the right frame of mind or something, and that you're trapped in some type of hopelessness or something.

Daniel Lawson: 17:03

What is your, um, what is your weakness? Like you ever go to an interview and someone's like give me some strengths and some weaknesses, you know like what is? What is a weakness that you're? You know, be vulnerable right now and tell me what a weakness.

Jordan Hunter : 17:16

Okay, so one of the things that I worked on was like confrontation. I'm horrific with it. I will, I'll suffer the end of time and just not confront something, just to be easy going, just to make things a little bit easier for everyone. That's, you know I yeah, kind of. I felt like it. I, what's the word?

Daniel Lawson: 17:37

Like I know what you're trying to say. You are just that. You're just trying to make everybody like you're the peaceful guy, you're the peaceful maker.

Jordan Hunter : 17:45

Yeah, I want to make the world more peaceful, right. So I feel like it's like a sacrifice I can make by like suffering through this to make it more peaceful, right, and so I think that I started working on just being able to. It's okay to tell people when something is wrong in a nice way that there is a middle ground there. I don't have to be a total dick to be confrontational. I can say like, hey, I don't think that that's the right way to do it, and if they push back, I can also. Then we can have a conversation about what is the right thing. And then I've found that at first, yeah, people are not weren't very happy that I was more confrontational in that way, but I have a stronger relationship with those people nowadays than I did before, because they know that I'm willing to tell them my opinion and I'm also. I'm able to if they push back and they give me good reasons to go their way with it and still and to see their point of view.

Daniel Lawson: 18:41

Yeah.

Jordan Hunter : 18:42

And so that was a really hard one for me was being able to allow myself to be confrontational and to stand up for my place in the world.

Daniel Lawson: 18:50

Right.

Jordan Hunter : 18:51

And that I do have value in my opinions of things and that you know confidence really.

Daniel Lawson: 18:57

Yeah, and that takes a lot to stand up kind of for what you, for yourself, for what you believe. I mean it takes a strong person, because I'm that way too. I'm more of like, hey, walk all over me because at the end of the day, I really don't care, you know yeah.

Jordan Hunter : 19:11

I go with the flow. That is kind of how it is, and then you kind of just make a habit of that, I guess. But it is important. It's just not a healthier way To have more meaningful relationships. I think that you need to have some confrontation. Cane needs the bill to tell me when I'm not doing things that aren't helpful to the relationship or healthy or something like that, and I need to be able to tell her that and both of us to disagree, and maybe there's a night we fight, but for us both to see each other's sides and then find that healthy middle ground. Otherwise, you'll find relationships where you know there's someone's too controlling and the other person just kind of puts up with it and they feel miserable until it all explodes or something like that and you know, and that's not just for your relationships, it's for like work friends or just your normal friends, to hold each other accountable, but also have some forgiveness for people. You have to understand people are imperfect in that. You know, when you're confrontational, it doesn't mean that person needs to change to what you're saying. Yeah, you're just stating your opinion of what you think should happen.

Daniel Lawson: 20:14

And everybody's got one so it's okay. Well, if you do ever get in a fight, tip, hit him in the back of the head, because the bruise will be covered by the hair, unless she's going through chemo and she's bald. Okay, Then you're screwed. You ever have a confrontation, but yeah, but something that I've worked on something that I've worked on and you know that I've kind of overcame is getting feedback from people in the workplace. I was always so defensive when someone was like, hey, you know, someone over me was like, hey, you don't need to do it this way, you need to do it that way. And then I throw up this big wall, you know, and I'm just so defensive and I push back, you know, and I'm like, well, I'll just show them yada, yada, yada. Over the years I've been so susceptible Is that a word? I know what you mean. I can now receive the feedback and put it to good use and then, at the end of the day, it's like all this person's trying to do is help me, you know, become a better me, become a better person, become a better manager.

Jordan Hunter : 21:19

You know, and Did that make you feel embarrassed after you would do that sometimes.

Daniel Lawson: 21:24

After I would accept the feedback or.

Jordan Hunter : 21:26

Like back in the day when you would fight the feedback, like, would you have a moment like after like, like, maybe like when you first get it right? Don't you have that like? It's like an emotional thing that flares up in you. And then you react right. And it's not like thought out. Really, it's a reaction to that feeling. I have that same thing you're talking about with criticism that I snap back immediately and I tried to explain why I'm doing what I'm doing and I would feel embarrassed later because it's just not a healthy way to have conversation.

Daniel Lawson: 21:54

Unfortunately, I was a little shit so I really I probably didn't care in the moment, to be honest with you, and I was just so like Hardheaded, hardheaded and just I'm the shit at what I did, you know. So I thought I was the best and you have to be knocked down a little bit to, you know, become humble in that situation, because I wasn't the best. And growing up and live in life a little bit more and going through certain experiences, you realize that. And now I look back and, yes, it's stupid of me and it's very embarrassing, but at the time, you know, even a week or a month later, I didn't, I was right, you know what I mean. But now, 33 years old, looking back, I'm like man, I wish I could go back and tell this person how big of a little shit.

Jordan Hunter : 22:43

I was Well. Not everything's black and white.

Daniel Lawson: 22:45

Yeah.

Jordan Hunter : 22:46

And we just. I think that's what you learn as you get older is that they're in the case between y'all too. It was never. You were right, they were wrong, and who's right, who's wrong? Well, we're not trying to figure out who's right and who's wrong.

Daniel Lawson: 22:55

And nine times out of 10, my mom was my boss, so it makes it 10 times worse, right?

Jordan Hunter : 23:01

Oh, that's the change. I got some problems to do.

Daniel Lawson: 23:05

But you know, and then also, too, you know my owner, he would come in. But I'm so open to feedback Like I want the feedback now, like I thrive off the feedback, and that's something I need to reassure me that am I doing good, or do I need to improve something to be a little bit better?

Jordan Hunter : 23:24

You know and it's important to keep the confidence that you had right. The confidence probably would help you or made you become maybe a little too egotistical over it, but the confidence needs to stay there because you need to know when you're doing right and other people who aren't doing what you're doing Exactly. It doesn't mean that they know exactly what they're talking about, but it does mean it's helpful feedback to twist things to make it more translatable especially when it comes to, like podcasting or something like that right. You want to make sure it's palatable to people.

Daniel Lawson: 23:50

And then what I'm working on. So I've overcome that. What I'm working on is just trying to find a healthy balance of work and me time, but in that me time is family time, wife time, kid time. You know, finding that healthy balance because, like I was telling you on maybe a last episode or two, working hard doesn't bother me, you know, because I'm doing what I love right, and I can grind, I can lose sleep, I can sleep three hours and be completely fine, but the people around me, my parents, my wife, my kids, it can affect them, you know. So you have to take their thoughts into consideration and understand. I'm not the only one here. You know, I got a family and I got to do a little bit better about finding that healthy balance, that work relationship, whether that's with my wife, the kids, the cat. You know I got to find that healthy balance.

Jordan Hunter : 24:53

Yeah, and it's really tough at our age because we're trying to prepare for the future. And if you're trying to build something to secure the future for your family, that's also important and that's a sacrifice that sometimes is really hard to balance, because some people die full head in and it's just. They abandon their relationships with people and that's a sad way to live and not have your people you care about closest.

Daniel Lawson: 25:18

The best way I feel like to handle that situation is constant communication right Between you and your spouse or you and the kids, like hey, look, I love you, but you know daddy's got this going on to make our life a lot better. Or hey, honey, I know I'm busy, you know you still got to understand to set time aside. But it works both ways. I got to understand that balance and she's got to understand that balance, like he's doing this for us. You know what I mean. So kind of bounces off what you were saying.

Jordan Hunter : 25:50

Yeah, yeah. And what you're saying that it's important to let the people around you know that you are thinking of them, even though you're working really hard is important to end those moments, no, like when you are around, to be present, and to at least have a moment where you go up and you have an interaction with them. That's I love you, I care, oh yeah yeah about you. All those is important to let people around you know those things. Yeah, and I think it's important for, even if it's just for a short amount of time, right, if your mind is constantly on your projects, that is okay, because that's kind of how you just come up as how you're creative and and but occasionally to snap out of it and to look around, because I know, like Kani, with like mine and my creative projects, Sometimes she definitely feels like I don't care about cleaning the house to help her out, right.

Daniel Lawson: 26:46

Yeah, exactly.

Jordan Hunter : 26:47

Yeah, and that's not necessarily what's going on. It's that I'm, my mind is elsewhere and I'm an idiot.

Daniel Lawson: 26:54

Yeah, and I'm a one track mom when it comes to that, both of us have I'm zoned in on what I'm doing, because I'm doing what I love and I want to make it the best possible.

Jordan Hunter : 27:02

Yeah, yeah, and this means a lot to us exactly and not that family doesn't, and not that all those things don't. But, yeah, look at how we lived our lives up to this point. We were people up until you know we met y'all and that we are not. This is not trying to get to us Not taking responsibility at all, but that is the value I completely understand. Yeah, that they're side of it to you. That it is you have to show the people around you that you care and that is very important by doing things for them as well. Yeah, work for them.

Daniel Lawson: 27:38

So what, what's? What is your plan this week, like? What is your wins? What do you want to accomplish? What are some of those boxes you want to get checked off?

Jordan Hunter : 27:49

Hum, well, I am, so I'm doing the music thing in this podcast and so I'm trying to which that is right, collaborative. So I am just open to whatever the people in those projects are doing, to just do it with them however they want, and so, I guess, schedule some time to edit this right, which I, honestly, I've been excited to have work that is towards something that, like, I just have Confidence, yeah, something that I believe in and I kind of now haven't had into, like know what the work is and that it is like Work like editing footage is not creative time. It's work time right, right, right and so.

Daniel Lawson: 28:26

The filming aspect of it is the creative. Yeah, this, this parts it's easy. Yeah yeah, it's the back end stuff that Sucks. That's the work, long time.

Jordan Hunter : 28:35

Yeah, that's 100% the work and I'm excited to have it like for the first time, to have like work, and I know like that's probably gonna go away at some point, but right now it's awesome feeling and so I've got some time scheduled today to finish up to trying to get out all that making shorts and all that and then However, you're creating wins for yourself, though like you're setting yourself up for victory at that point, because you know You're you're having fun here, but then you're creating that work for you to do.

Daniel Lawson: 29:06

You're creating those accomplishments. You know you're gonna do it, but it's work. You know what I mean. But you're setting yourself up for success at that point.

Jordan Hunter : 29:14

I think that right now, because that work is fun for me, mm-hmm, that that is a well, you enjoy. It wrong passion. Yeah, that's talking about working towards your passions, and I Never felt that clean the toilets at Dillard's.

Daniel Lawson: 29:27

Yeah, I mean, I never felt that. You know, I'm flippin burgers at Wendy's either. You know, it's like exactly you're doing what you have to do to get by at that moment, like I liked my job and I like people, but right, did I really want to be a manager at Wendy's for the rest of my life? You know?

Jordan Hunter : 29:41

well, you know it's like do I really want to be helping corporate America?

Daniel Lawson: 29:44

Yeah, you're too. You're too talented for that, like you're too talented musically. You got some good looks too, but Haircuts helping.

Jordan Hunter : 29:52

Yeah, I'm keeping the mustache. I'm sorry, I don't give a shit.

Daniel Lawson: 29:55

Hey, you don't have to apologize to me as long as I get to touch it. Do you put beard oil on it? Oh no, oh, you should do that you got a water that help.

Jordan Hunter : 30:06

It's the one who told me I should. I need a diet, black or something.

Daniel Lawson: 30:09

No, don't do that, maybe whatever cuz your ears not black, it's more like an Auburn color. You're gonna look like a well the darker brown Okay just do the just for men. That way, it's like not like super permanent, no, you can wash it out, yeah, but that would look cool to see you one time on the show. It's like Bert Reynolds.

Jordan Hunter : 30:30

Oh yeah, very. What's at the Simpsons, howdy duty, oh yeah.

Daniel Lawson: 30:35

The neighbor with the big mustache, oh my.

Jordan Hunter : 30:38

God, that's so funny, but it's so like this week. I'm going to do that the editing. I've got planned out music whenever we get a chance, when the guys got strep and we're doing vocals, so that's just don't go hand in hand. And then I I'm just kind of actually kind of doing this with, like my hop, my little hobbies, right, I've got my personal music. I've got some songs done that they don't sound great or poorly recorded. I've always like, oh, go back and re-record them, which I'm not, so I'm just go finish those off. I'm going to release those to Spotify. I'm just going to try to cross some T's, dot some I's and release things. That way I can move forward with my new projects and accept that that's what the artist I was at that time, because in the future if anyone I'll get better, yeah, and then it'll be forgivable that I wasn't very good at this time. I mean, look at Blinks first album.

Daniel Lawson: 31:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jordan Hunter : 31:24

Yeah, exactly. Look at any artists first album yeah, and it's probably hard to find because artists probably all go through that. I can't release my first stuff because it's not good enough.

Daniel Lawson: 31:33

Yeah.

Jordan Hunter : 31:34

And you're. The stuff they do release is probably also not very good.

Daniel Lawson: 31:38

I think you're doing it right though Get getting it done, dotting your eyes, crossing your T's and moving on to that next thing.

Jordan Hunter : 31:44

That way you're moving forward in life and you're just not like kind of stuck and you know, with art it's like this weird thing where there is like this magic that you're capturing in a bottle that once you've got it you can't like recreate it, you can't go back and mold it too much, it's got to happen in that moment and have that like flow of work. Once you interrupt that flow and you try to hop back into that wave, that makes sense it just doesn't really work. It loses its cohesiveness and you can feel it in your. It's like a gut feeling.

Daniel Lawson: 32:20

And I feel like you would also like start picking out other little stuff. And then you're like, oh, I need to fix this too, and then this, and then you're just rewriting the whole song. At that point, god forbid, you're a perfectionist because you're screwed.

Jordan Hunter : 32:33

But if you think of it as just like a personal therapy, this is going to be a practice I'm doing to help me finish things, and that was one of the things I found on on YouTube was these guys talking about? Honestly, the only thing you really need to do right now probably, is just to finish your projects and keep moving forward, because if you just sit around and you're just going to come hopeless right, you're never going to find you. How are you going to achieve your dreams if your song sitting in your yeah, on your computer yeah, no one's hearing it. You know I'm sitting there and it's right. How can you?

Daniel Lawson: 33:06

ever play it for people. When they come up like, hey, check this out, and they're like you should post it, I'm like it's kind of nice to have that. Yeah, I mean I've got my library is massive with all the songs I never released.

Jordan Hunter : 33:16

That's so funny. But yeah, that finishing things is that alone. I mean we could do a word of the week on finish, yeah Right, and maybe we will in the future. But yeah, that's been important for me. So I'm going to try to, you know, to finish up a couple of little songs and release those to my St J. My St J's just can become this collection of mice music and, you know, joke music. These songs are actually for Kani. There are two songs I had written, that one's about when I die. She can listen to it, oh, wow.

Daniel Lawson: 33:48

You can't listen to it yet you got to wait. You know whenever that happens, week probably.

Jordan Hunter : 33:53

I won't promote it, so just go to my Instagram if you're really is it a funny death song?

Daniel Lawson: 33:58

No, oh OK, sad death.

Jordan Hunter : 34:00

No, it's supposed to be like. It's about like when I go Gotcha and it's like a song to kind of give her a little peace of mind that it's OK to move on with.

Daniel Lawson: 34:08

Don't, don't, don't post that one. Yet your mom will be like oh, what's he going through?

Jordan Hunter : 34:14

Yeah, the very end of the song.

Daniel Lawson: 34:20

Oh my God. Well, this week I don't try to think what I got going on. I just reaching out, doing some guerrilla marketing, trying to find some people.

Jordan Hunter : 34:31

Really marketing. Yeah, ok, go ahead. What's that mean?

Daniel Lawson: 34:35

So just mass email, mass message.

Jordan Hunter : 34:40

How do you get the emails to send, or are you just like going through social media and finding? Who you like and copy and paste their emails.

Daniel Lawson: 34:46

Yeah, well, I need to come up with a template. I need to write a template because that creates a little bit easier workflow, right?

Jordan Hunter : 34:55

100%, do you templates? Oh, and all in on the template.

Daniel Lawson: 34:59

You know, I told Whitney to do that the other day when I should be doing that.

Jordan Hunter : 35:07

Like.

Daniel Lawson: 35:08

I'm so good at teaching people like I know it makes sense, but it's me doing it. Yeah, it's like I'm hypocritical with that. Like I told her, I'm like, hey, you need it. Why are you sending a message to every person? Make a template. I'm doing the same damn thing, yeah, you know. So I need to create. I need to do that this week. I need to create a template that invites people to the podcast. But this week I'm going to just continue to do what I'm doing and go after people that you know are mid tier or lower and just use that platform to help others and get exposure for them, maybe introduce their fan base to our fan base and hopefully something happens, cause I mean, that's what happened with Tanya Lee, it's what's happening with Ryan, um, uh me Miller, uh, on the 10th and, you know, just trying to get as many interesting people on there that I can. I feel like it's good idea.

Jordan Hunter : 36:01

You are going to do a great job building a community of people. You wrote you're good at that. I mean, that's your old jobs.

Daniel Lawson: 36:08

Yeah.

Jordan Hunter : 36:09

It's being a leader in those ways. And I think that you come from such a good place that you actually do want to help people and you do want to get to know them, Like the fact that you have dinner with those people before you have the podcast. I love that about you because I don't. I think it would be a rough people the wrong way If you were. I mean, I'm sure some people want to air for strictly business yeah. And you're just getting to know on the podcast and it's just kind of like, yeah, we're getting an episode out, but you're showing up, You're doing something that's not on camera, to get to know someone, to share a moment with them, to share a day at time of the day of your. You know you're all trying to make business, but at the end of the day, we do want to have a community of people that know each other Exactly you need to know each other, and that's. I think that's awesome. We went to.

Daniel Lawson: 36:54

We went to dinner. I went to her house oh, another funny story. Her husband is like a squirrel whisperer. Okay, he's sitting there, he's got a 20 professional job, a 25 pound bag of peanuts and all he does is shake it and it's a shelled peanut. He'll shake it and then he'll hear something running and he'll be like, oh, Charlie's coming. Charlie is the-.

Jordan Hunter : 37:20

They own squirrels.

Daniel Lawson: 37:21

No, these are wild squirrels, dude, 100% wild. And he shakes his peanut. He'll hear. I guess the way Charlie walks he'll be like, oh, Charlie's coming. Charlie will crawl up his leg Outside, Outside, and he will hand Charlie the peanut. I witnessed it with my own eyes. Hand Charlie the peanut. Charlie takes it with his hands, puts it in his mouth, goes down his leg and jumps off the porch. I mean he had probably six squirrels do that while I was there. It was the craziest thing.

Jordan Hunter : 37:52

How do you learn to do that? I mean, you have to be one of those children that's just trying to talk to animals.

Daniel Lawson: 37:57

He says he can talk to squirrels. I mean, and after seeing those squirrels crawl up his leg and take that peanut, I believe it. I mean, I seen it firsthand.

Jordan Hunter : 38:06

And the poods.

Daniel Lawson: 38:08

You know they have an Amazon wish list and on that wish list is bags of peanuts, because he feeds the squirrels peanuts. It's crazy and then, yeah, so after feeding the squirrels we did the podcast, and then after the podcast we'd go downtown Sarasota. We got some lunch on the beach under the little tiki hut, had a little drink, you know, and she got stuck in the sand in her scooter. I had to end up pushing her and you know the beach is packed. It's a nice day and I'm pushing a dwarf in on a scooter through the sand. You look like you're on a date, probably Probably, or she's my mom and I mean, I walked everywhere, like I said, dude, I was so sore, but yeah, I tried to get to know them because they're all people, at the end of the day, and they have feelings. And you, it's crazy because it's a celebrity, right, and you think that no one's going through anything until you meet them and you're just like holy cow, you're like Well, you think that they're so successful that, like all the issues you have, they don't have.

Jordan Hunter : 39:10

Yeah, but that's not the case.

Daniel Lawson: 39:12

It's not the. I mean her husband is in terrible health. He needs a double rotator cuff surgery. You know they're struggling and it's just it's crazy. But the plus thing is she has so much good things going for her right now and if she don't, the bus is parked right outside her house is what I'm trying to say and it's time to get on it and take the bull by the horns. I mean she's. She's got a lot going for her. I'm super excited to see what she's got ahead of her. She's going on tour over in the UK. It's her first.

Jordan Hunter : 39:44

Whoa UK tour. Tour in the UK. Yeah, that's so fun.

Daniel Lawson: 39:47

She's going to Ireland, Scotland, Wales, all these places.

Jordan Hunter : 39:52

Is your husband going with her?

Daniel Lawson: 39:53

He's not, he can't do a lot of traveling. Now he what he did back then when they like they would go to Dubai and Saudi Arabia, stuff like that. I mean, they've been everywhere, dude, and you know I'm so glad that things are picking back up for her and I'm extremely glad that you know she was able to do the podcast and entered. You know we're a comedy page, right, so maybe my fans will enjoy some of her comedy. She's hysterical and I'm glad that we could have that platform to, hey, come on over here, show them what you got, because these are great people that I got behind me and they'll watch it and go to one of your shows. You know, you never know.

Jordan Hunter : 40:35

Yeah, it's great collaborating. And it's great that, like, you have a group of people that you trust and, like that, you have the confidence that anyone who comes in the person will feel comfortable to operate with you.

Daniel Lawson: 40:46

I feel like yeah.

Jordan Hunter : 40:47

It's awesome that you're doing it and I think it's got a lot of potential.

Daniel Lawson: 40:50

I appreciate it. That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me, anyways.

Jordan Hunter : 40:56

All right, what else, man, Before we? We'll have another podcast. I'll let you know how it is.

Daniel Lawson: 41:01

Yeah, we'll know. At the end, the end game, we'll really find out. Well, guys, I think that's all we got for you today. Just remember to subscribe to the channel and give this video a big O thumbs up, and remember to turn on all bell notifications, because if you don't, you'll never know when me or Jordan makes some new videos.

Jordan Hunter : 41:21

Yeah, we haven't worked on an outro at all.

Daniel Lawson: 41:23

Nope, but just remember my name's Daniel and my name's Jordan, and we're.

Jordan Hunter : 41:30

Daniel and Jordan.

Daniel Lawson: 41:31

We'll see you next time. Great trial, great trial. Alright, guys, I'm now done. Bye, thanks. Thank you, I hope it's funny. This is perfect right.