Whimsy, Wisdom, and Weed: A Ride Through Everyday Oddities and Profound Parenthood Moments

Ever found yourself chuckling at the cost of a tree or contemplating the creative musings brought on by marijuana? Join us, Daniel and Jordan, as we navigate the whimsical to the weighty in our latest podcast episode. We start off with some lighthearted banter about the oddities of daily greetings and the unexpected adventures in home landscaping. Then, we take a detour into the highs and lows of creativity under the influence, musing over whether a little puff could be a muse or a crutch for the artistic process.

Life's deeper lessons come to light as we honor my father's legacy of open-mindedness and activism. His influence is felt as we reflect on the journey towards truth and how his principles of love and acceptance have guided our own paths in life. We share intimate stories of family, faith, and the pursuit of personal beliefs, all while discussing the challenge of engaging with different opinions and the transformative power of patience and strategic conversation.

Rounding out the episode, we delve into the realities of parenting, from the chaos of snack time to the endearing moments that make it all worthwhile. We also extend an invitation for you to become a part of our conversation – your insights, stories, and laughter are what make this podcast a shared journey. So, find a cozy spot, plug in those headphones, and let's get this conversation started. We're excited to have you along for the ride!

Transcript

Daniel Lawson
Host
00:00
Good morning everybody. I'm Daniel and I'm Jordan and we're Daniel and Jordan. Welcome back to the show, you guys. Good morning, good evening, good night. I don't even know why I said that, but I've heard it on a movie before. Hope you're doing well and welcome back to the Greatest Show on the Internet. Good morning Jordan. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
00:36
Good morning Daniel. How are you doing today? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
00:37
I'm good man. My voice is getting. It's almost better. It sounds worse. I'm pre-teen, I'm preteen, I'm preteen. Now I went backwards a little bit. You know the good old days I was a boy, then I become a man and now I'm a little boy again. Yeah, hornier than ever, yep. But yeah, I'm doing good. Voice is getting better. It's still kind of like, eh, but dude, I'm tired, tired. You've had a week, yeah, and it's not like. It's not a tired as in like mentally exhausted. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
01:10
This time it's physically exhausted well, yeah if you went to the gym more often, you might not be that tired buddy. Yeah, good luck with that I've canceled those memberships years ago. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
01:19
You've been lifting toddlers, yeah, yeah um been doing a lot of like things around the house. It's spring break here, so, uh, we got an awning being built, we got landscapers here and I'm meeting with them and picking out trees. Have you ever picked out a tree? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
01:38
uh to look at. Yeah, have you ever picked out a tree? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
01:42
yeah, it sucks. Okay, you know how much trees are. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
01:45
No, how much is a tree? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
01:46
Okay, so that tree. Did you see that spiral tree when you walked up on the porch? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
01:50
I don't ever see trees. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
01:50
See, I don't even know why we did that. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
01:52
The wife was like we need the spiral tree, I will say I don't think I'm the standard. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
02:00
Have bit you, yeah, but yeah, that tree was like $250. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
02:06
Okay, that actually doesn't sound that bad. It's Mother's Nature. So wait, is it just a tree that you're putting in? You got to plant it and you have to wait. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
02:14
No, so this tree was like pre-grown. But I guess however big the pot is here's a little bit of Daniel science for you. Okay, however big big the pot is, here's a little bit of daniel science for you. However big the pot is is how big it'll grow if you don't want it very big. Wait, is that true, or you? Is that really it's true? Okay, if you don't put it in a big pot, it won't grow very big. The pot kind of constricts you. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
02:35
Oh, I see so if you want a giant tree, plant that bitch outside, okay or get you a big old pot or get you a big old pot, yeah cool so you have a old pot. Cool so you have a tree, you're landscaping and the awning's massive. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
02:48
Yeah. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
02:48
It looks like it's going to be super cool. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
02:50
It's like a 20 by 20, and we're doing like an A-frame kind of like, with the crow's foot up top. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
02:55
He's got a hot tub underneath it. Yeah, lots of boys been in that me and jordan are supposed to have an episode in there too soon, so we're anxious for that we're gonna be roasting in that baby. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
03:09
Yeah, boy, um ball soup. I'm gonna have to put extra chlorine after that episode clean it up clean up on aisle six yeah yeah, um the uh. But yeah, the tree out there just picking out trees picking out, built a brick wall in the studio. So yeah, let's point out the obvious we're not in our natural habitat, we're not. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
03:29
Well, I am, living room is where I usually live my life, but, yeah, new area. So this is supposed to be season two. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
03:38
But we are in April. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
03:41
And it's April Fool's slash. We didn't plan ahead and we have more plans for season two, more exciting things. So I think we call this season 1.5 or something like that. So there'll be some transitional period where we are here in Daniel's living room, but when season two kicks off. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
04:03
We will have a bedroom, yeah, we didn't want to like half-ass it, we want to just really straight to the punch, like a noticeably different scene vibe and all that. So, and you know, we want to start it off with a skit too. So I think, uh, that'll be, that'll be fun yeah. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
04:22
So things might be a little bit different, a little slower, maybe not as big, while we wait for this new changeover. But when the changeover happens it'll be full fledged. You know skits, we'll be doing all of our little production tricks and all that. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
04:36
So bear with us. Bear with us for a couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm just sore, just doing a lot of manly shit that I'm not used to, you know, because, again, like I said, I was a boy. Then I become a man and I'm a boy now. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
04:50
Now Daniel has had a lot of man work and he hasn't called me over to do anything. What does that mean, you know? Do you not trust me with bricks in my hand? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
05:06
I mean, I trust you with a brick, but not a real brick. You know, let's see those hands Well, thank God. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
05:09
This is what I do. I try to lower the expectations of myself to where I never have to do any work. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
05:13
Yeah, so thank you for never calling me to do work. You'll have to come over whenever I start planting these trees. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
05:18
Once everything's set up, buddy, I'll come right back over. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
05:25
I, I feel like you're good at finding holes, I'll dig them and you plant them. But yeah, just doing a lot of manly stuff, you know, trying to think what else. Oh, guess what what? We cut Zeus's balls off. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
05:37
Ah, Zeus's balls, he's been fixed. Well, good yeah. So what? He's going to be less aggressive. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
05:45
Yeah, I think they get fat and, um, yeah, so don't get fixed. If you're a man, you get fat, but evidently they like get super lazy and just you know it keeps them from spraying and marking their territory. Yeah, the spray, we don't want that. Okay, and he's, he's at that age to where, like, he was just enough to get fixed. Yeah, you know, you don't want them big yet and I'm talking in testicle size you don't want a squirter. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
06:09
No, I mean I might in a cat form. Yeah, that's disgusting. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
06:15
Have you ever smelled that stuff? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
06:17
not sure what you're talking about. It's the cat the cat squirt? No, I've never, it's disgusting. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
06:24
No, it's disgusting. They mark their territory and if you get honestly, what's it smell like? It's not like a cat pee smell, it is like the worst odor you can possibly imagine. It's very stout, it's very strong. It smells like that 93 octane. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
06:41
It's like a chemical. Yeah, it's weird. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
06:46
And it's like to mark their territory. So if you bring it, so, for example, if I have Zeus, he may never spray, ever, even if we don't get him fixed. But if we get another cat, he's going to be like this is my place. You know, I don't know what it comes out of, I just know what happens, which I don't want to know where it comes out of. But uh, yeah, oh, zeus, he's, he got fixed and he seems to be doing great. 

07:09
you know, two or three days post-op yeah you know, if it was, the roles were reversed and it was me, I'd be milking the clock, baby, yeah me too. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
07:18
I'd be. Yeah, if I had my balls, what would I do? I have a lot of more free time, yeah your schedule would open up. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
07:26
How would you fit like, have how, how? How would you feel like if you were to have surgery? Do you think you would milk it not on your balls? Just in general milk it. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
07:37
I mean uh, of course, of course, I'd lay around like that's just a man thing you know caney Katie? Does you know the classic like men, sick men are, like you know, babies. Yeah, yeah, I think there's a bit of truth to that. For sure, it's just as soon as you're better, it's just more work. Why would I get better? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
07:57
Yeah, I feel like us as men. It's like we're tough all the time. Are you tough all the time? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
08:02
No, oh God, all the time, are you tough all the time? No, oh god, no, I'm tough. Expectations it's my. My whole life has been just lowering the expectations, so I don't have to do as much and I have less responsibility, you're on to something is this like a little brother thing? I don't know, I don't know. Is it less of a man? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
08:17
little brother. What do you? I think it's because I was a little brother. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
08:20
Oh my god gotcha some reason, responsibility has always been a horrible thing from to me. Yeah, not for me, it's great for me. I hate it, though, and I think it's because I grew up like that. I've I just found like manipulative ways to get myself out of responsibility. I think that didn't work out very well in some ways, but well, what about your week, man? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
08:41
What all you been got going on, oh? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
08:43
I think I had a pretty standard week. You know what I now this is going to. I don't know if I should mention it or not, but so I smoke a little bit of Mary J every once in a while. This week has been a week of me smoking a little bit more than I normally do. Now I'm pretty good about it. I don't go to work, I don't do anything like that. It's an at night relaxation thing. But I've found you know how everyone always talks about it relaxes you right, yeah. 

09:17
Well, and it does in some form. But, like I think, like how I've learned about it is like, right, you drop all this dopamine right after you take a hit, whatever. Yeah, all this dopamine rushes, and so it's awesome, right, that's like the feeling that humans love is that rush of dopamine, right, sex gives it to you oh, I know about that, yes, and you get lost in like an animal. Yeah, so that's what it does to you and then, like you know, you kind of groggy the next day because you're like depleted of all that dopamine and so you're kind of like I don't know, just like unmotivated and all that. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
10:02
And I've noticed that, like when I do this, it's like it puts me into this swing of things where I'm like kind of like not depressed in the morning, but like groggy and like, oh, I'm trying to drag through the day, like, if you do do it at night, that's how you feel in the morning, like a hangover, like a hangover sort of. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
10:08
It's not like an alcohol one, right like nowadays I'd feel like death. But it's like a groggy, cloudy head feeling and so, like and over through the day you like you know you kind of become normal again and then you kind of like to get through all that. You're kind of like, well, if I can just get to the end of the day to get that next hit, and then it's like that is what it's doing to you. So when they say it's not addictive, it's addictive, it's a habit forming thing, yeah, and that's why you just have to be very careful with it. So this week I was going through a little bit of that and I was kind of just like thinking of my feelings and all that. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
10:36
I think it's cool, that't you know? But everybody that does do that they're like, oh, it's not addictive. So to hear it coming from somebody who has done it and saying there could be a little bit of addictedness to it, you know yeah, for sure, and scientifically it can be. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
10:55
I don't know why I would ever say the word scientific science by jordan it's a new thing. It makes sense why you love it and then, when you're not on it, you hate it and you have a withdrawal period. You get in a cycle. When you're off the cycle you feel like crap and when you're on it, you love it. That's why people call it a miracle drug. They're happy medicine. It's just science, it's nothing more. It's not just science, it's just science it's nothing more. 

11:25
it's not just science, it's jordan science. But yeah, uh, what you know, and I like to do music and so people talk about being creative with it and I I do see it like it gives you a new perspective with writing, like creating something. But, as I've heard, the problem with it is is it makes it almost impossible to organize ideas and to put them down on paper and then to sort things through how your mind organizes things. It's almost impossible to do that side of creative and art is work, art work right, and the art side is really easy with it and the work part is almost impossible. And I think that that is the common myth with it is that it's great for music. It is to an extent, but you have, sobriety is just the way to be. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
12:14
Yeah. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
12:14
If you want to get stuff done and have it done, like you know, with a clear mind. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
12:18
Yeah, I mean that makes sense. I mean I feel like obviously it would maybe help you like think outside the box or get loose and in that moment. But then you're kind of like lost in that. Yeah, you know you're in a loop, or you're scatterbrained. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
12:32
It's either one or the other. You're never like properly moving along a path, down the same path. You're like going down this like that looks cool over there, yeah, and you're scattered. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
12:42
And then you, you know, when you get to the part to where you're like, okay, I love this, how do I write it down on paper? I feel like it'd be easier clear minded. But then you come across like you may get that writer's block when you are clear-minded exactly because I ran into that a ton, you know, when I used to write like acoustic songs or when we wrote music, it's like you write something super cool and you come out with it and it's awesome to you at least. To other people it might suck, yeah, but uh, you know, you write this awesome music, you play it and then you sit down, you're like I'm gonna write another song and then it's like, hmm, where do I start? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
13:20
yeah, and I think some of that is just like having like a weird. You're like overthinking it a bit and then, like weed will get you to not overthink it. In a way, you're just like in it and I think that's what the beauty of it is is that you can be in the music and it's all feeling. You're kind of just feeling it out where the vibe takes you. And when you're clear-minded there's all these other thoughts in your mind like well, that's not original. Well, and when you're clear-minded, there's all these other thoughts in your mind like, well, that's not original, well, that's not. And none of that actually matters because it's about the feeling of it. You can play the same chords as someone else in another song and it feels different, and I think that weed can take you out of that mindset. And then that writer's block is just like everyone's writing bad songs. They're just pushing through finishing that song and being like, yeah, that song sucks, get rid of that. 

14:04
And then pushing onto the next ones and like, oh, this one's good, and that's how you. That's why like bands back in the day would write 50 songs and only 12 made the album. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
14:12
Right, you know cause you write you know majority garbage. Yeah, like on our last episode with Tony um the previous two ago, we're a little scatterbrained ourselves. 

14:24
But with Tony he was saying that same thing. Like a lot of the songs that he wrote for his new Tony Boy album was a lot of some unreleased you know, sleeper agent stuff. Yeah, so I could see that. I mean you would almost have to write a ton of music to pick out the best. Yeah, you can't just say, oh, this CD is going to have seven songs, or this record's going to have seven songs, and you play seven songs. There's not really much to choose from of what's the best or what's good or what order it's like. You would have to write 25. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
14:52
Yeah, get seven yeah, and then the. The problem also is like people start. When you start, you kind of know it's kind of a bad song. Instead of like just going ahead and finishing it, you like bold it over and you're trying to twist it into something that it's not. You're trying to make it better and there's an extent of that you can do, but a lot of it you can't. Your house is falling apart, dude, I know. Nah, he's got a crying baby and a mother trying to console it. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
15:20
Yeah. So if you do hear some screaming, everybody's okay. Mama's upstairs with the babies, we're in the living room. There's no sound. You know, it's not a different room or anything. So pardon the screams and the terrors, but all is well here at the Lawson household. Unless you hear it from me, this is a little besides the topic. Are you done with your smoking weed story? Yeah, I guess. Guess I am. Now. This is a little off topic, but you made a facebook post of your dad uh, preaching, or so I just want to talk a little bit about that because I thought it was cool, because one it's like you know, obviously I miss wayne, you know what I'm saying, but like when I saw him, I'm like dude, it's wayne, you know. It was cool, like hear his voice and see him and like see him in his element, that kind of doing what he loved. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
16:09
Yeah, yeah, I uh recently, uh, cause I've had so many just questions just in my head about, like, trying to figure life out more and more. Um, my father for the people who don't know, he was a pastor in here in town and his whole life he had passed it a lot through my life but he had worked many different jobs. He was, uh, you know, a tree trimmer. He was a funeral home director, he was a chaplain at hospice, so he worked with people at the end of their lives a lot, um, and he had a great perspective of life and, uh, what? Here's a little story about him at his, his last church he had before he passed, he uh for the interview for the job they asked him, I guess, something that he wanted to accomplish, and his answer was he wanted to go to jail for doing the right thing. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
16:53
Wow. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
16:53
Which is, yeah, they've always told that story and, yeah, a pretty powerful statement. It is yeah, and he tried, he tried, he marched it like the Capitol, for like I forget what it was the poverty. It was some type of poverty people thing, and he marched through there and he didn't get to go to jail, sadly. What a dream, though. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
17:12
Yeah, I mean you got to think about it though, like even back in the day, like Martin Luther King standing up and you know the, that march and that error, like he probably could have went to jail I mean unfortunately got shot, yeah but like that is kind of like that statement in today's world. You know what I mean. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
17:31
Yeah, like wanting to do right and good to the point that yourself is in danger, is a it's a brave, very brave idea and so, yes, I, I, I just decided lately I've been kind of sprinkling, going back and listening to some of my father's things and reading, because I guess through the years I've just been like kind of keeping at a distance because it's a little too emotional at times for me, but that video was with Megan Davidson, who also passed around when Wayne died. 

18:02
She was also a Were they at the same church. She was an associate pastor, I think, um, but she was a very sweet individual. Um, yeah, the church loved her as well, um, but she was interviewing my father and, uh, the way he did you, how much? Did you see the part where he talked about the sons he had? Yes, and he he was, the way he told it was. He's got an oldest one I'm the youngest, by the way. He has an oldest son who has his phd. He has a middle son who has an art degree, who worked at big lots, got tired of it and went to china for eight years and then he has. 

18:37
I forgot, he worked at big lines yeah, that's so funny and then he has a third son who wants to be a rock star and lives in the back bedroom. That's how he referred to me. I thought I was cracking up. 

18:49
Yeah, but yeah, his message and all that was one of the big ones that I took away from it was and you know, I'm not religious, I am agnostic, and what that means to me is that I don't know the answers, and I think that my uncertainty I'm just being honest with my uncertainty of the answers of life and I think it allows me to come to approach every idea with a humbleness, to be able to accept it and kind of filter through what I like and don't like, or don't like, really feel like it's truth. Um, instead of like, I feel like if I have a foundation that I truly don't understand and believe in, then it just kind of fogs my head with things which I think is great, and I think it's cool to have a friend like that too, because one usually, like your best friend, is like just alike. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
19:40
you know what? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
19:41
I mean. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
19:41
But like it's hard to explain because with me and you we're so alike in many ways, but yet we're different, and I think that's what really makes us special. Oh, we're different. I mean, you got the looks and I got the bronze, or is the bronze the looks? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
19:58
You got the man, I've got the Woman. Oh yeah, did you watch the last? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
20:03
episode of After School with the Lawsons, where me and Whitney talked oh, yeah. But it was more than what I sent you. It's pretty funny. I haven't watched the full she was like well, just call him a woman. I was like he'd be proud of that. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
20:14
Whoa man. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
20:16
But I think having a friend that is so I guess optimistic would be, is that the right word? Like open-minded, I guess, is probably even better. But to everything, not just religion, not, you know, when it comes to music, when it comes to ideas, when it comes to types of people there are, you're just so open-minded and I think that's super cool because it just shows that I't know when it makes me want to be open-minded to certain things because I may be dead set this way. But you know, having you part of that yang, the yin and the yang, having you here, it's like, well, let me be like Jordan and think you know open-minded, or show some, be optimistic about it, or whatever, I think it's huge, I think it's special and I'm glad that my best friend has that trait. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
21:11
Honestly, I appreciate that. Yeah, I think I think it's allowed me. You know, it was scary at first because a lot of people you know kind of look at you like you're abandoning a whole part of it and you know the father I had had. It's like almost even crazier to people see me like not abandon jesus, but yeah, but to walk away from it because it's just like this, it eats at me. If it's like the honest truth of it is that I don't know, then how can I go around telling other people that truth when it's just I don't know that truth for sure. And it's not the one thing. My dad, my dad knew this about me and the thing he told me was to always remain open minded. And that was basically the end of the discussion. He didn't, there was nothing more. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
21:57
It was just to remain open minded. Super cool. It's like the person who loves you the most shows his love by saying that, like just be open-minded and then doesn't think anything different of you. That's awesome. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
22:12
Yeah and uh. 

22:13
I think that also shows how much he believed in what he believed in, because he just wanted me to remain open, to find the truth that he's found in life and uh, and I think that that is what has brought me, I've actually become more spiritual all the time, because at first you know you become agnostic and the first feelings are, like you know, you kind of have like an atheist idea where you think that nothing exists, nothing's purpose, or you kind of get stuck in that and you're like I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, and it becomes like it's not real. Yeah. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
22:44
But then you're not being open-minded, yeah, and kind of like doing your part as far as studying or reading, and then I think you picking that stuff up later, whether it's letters from Wayne, it gets your mind thinking again. And then now that, true, what is the word Diagnostic, agnostic, agnostic. 

23:10
The true agnosticness of you comes out to where it's like you may have went through an atheist stage, not saying you saying like, oh, I'm atheist, but the fact of like you saying, I don't know about that, this may not be real, but you doing your part as far as studying or reading or being open-minded, uh, how am I trying to say this? You doing all that shows the agnostic side of it. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
23:43
yeah, it allows me to actually like hold every viewpoint and then once I find what I don't like about it, I'd be like, okay, I don't agree with that. Then okay, well, I see what they think. And that's not for me. And I think one thing my dad instilled in me is that there is truth in the world. I think that if you become agnostic and you don't think that there's truth in the world, you end up probably atheist. Yeah, but I do. Seeing my father and seeing the impact he made and all these things and just the miserableness of life with no meaning, I feel like I'm looking for something right Instead of becoming agnostic and just that's it. Period. I don't know which kind of actually is not true, because now I'm coming back around, this thing was like I'm so feeble-minded, who am I to know the truth? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
24:30
I'm a human. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
24:31
I am at god's will. I am not meant to know everything. I'm not meant to know the truth of everything. It just allows me to find the little truths and hold on to them and assume that they are a pathway to the bigger truth. Not that I know what it is or not, but you know, like us, finding our purpose or meaning of this podcast currently, um, it feels like a light to follow, Um, and I think that that my dad instilled in me to look for a light. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
25:03
it's cool for sure, um, and that's why I've talked to cadence about it her basketball coach is like saying like we need to attack her with her mind and then we need to attack her with skills and and attack her body. So he sends her these podcasts I forget the name, that it's earl something but he talks about having a positive mindset and how positive thinking, you know, leads to positive results and stuff like this and it's not saying in there, it's like to that there is no negative. The cool thing about Earl is there is negative, but it's how you deal with it. Once it arrives, you know at your doorstep, butstep, but it's. It's telling you to be positive in this and that. 

25:47
And then I started, so I piggybacked off one of those episodes when she so I make her listen to it, and then I'm like hey, what'd you get out of it? And she's like the meaning, the, the base of this episode was this. I was like, okay, I understand that was the base, but what did you get out of it? So like I'm trying to dig more into into her, more than like my parents did with me, because my parents didn't send me no podcast, which they probably weren't around. 

26:09
But you know, and and dad was really smart. He's a really smart guy and he had a lot of these talks with me. It was just me and him in the truck or the car after ball practice, but usually it stemmed around me not listening or doing something stupid, and then he turned it into a life lesson, but with cadence. I'm like, hey, this is positivity. And then I'm like, yeah, this is what Earl means. I kind of give her my viewpoints on it. And then I was like also, what I want you to think of is your purpose and you may not know that right now, but at least you know that there's something out there for you and to kind of keep an eye out. And whenever you see that little glimpse or that little light in the distance, you're like, oh, what is that? And you start to kind of go towards it. 

26:56
So I think it's important for younger kids to know that there's purpose out there. You may not know what that is. Do you even know what purpose is? So let me explain that to you. So I explained purpose to her and I was like I don't want you to get 33. And then you're like, oh, that's what I was supposed to do. Yeah, because you wasted 20, 30 years of your life, you know, not understanding what you're meant to do. And now I'm 33. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
27:22
I'm like, okay, now let's buckle up yeah, but at the same time sometimes you just have to lay that foundation, that building blocks, all those bad things have to happen to you to see that side to find that purpose. 

27:33
You know, like, um, no one's on the same schedule at all. Yeah, it's weird, but everyone wastes time. Everyone's wasting time, but at the same time, is it wasted time if it it's, if it's necessary to build a passion for something? Yeah, you know, because I feel like the passion for all this is 33 years of me being miserable, not working for companies. I don't believe in working towards things I don't, just for money, and then, finally, it's like something I believe in right working on. 

28:00
And then it's like ah, and now it's so powerful right um, if I'd have found it when I was younger all the distractions of finding a girlfriend and all those things I might have missed the purpose then and that might have been my only opportunity. But yeah, things happen and I believe in fate. That's like one of the weird things I believe in. I believe in if we can't go back and change our decisions, then that means we're on a path that is always headed in one direction and whatever set us all on this path has a purpose for it, and everything that's going to happen is meant to happen the way it's going to happen. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
28:34
Yeah, and you can think about it like that too. 

28:35
It's like fate, obviously, like you come across something and it and it's bad, or it does something bad, or it was the wrong decision. 

28:45
The cool thing about fate is you were meant to go through this, you're meant to learn that lesson in life to where, hey, this may come up again later, and then you know how to direct or guide your path or deal with the situation. So, yeah, I think fate is a good word to use for it, because it just allows you to overcome obstacles later on, because there's shit that I've learned through and been through five years ago that I know not to do again. You know, because I've went through that and I guess it was faith, because you always hear people say, like, well, if I didn't go through that, I wouldn't be the person who I am today. It's true. I mean, if you didn't go through those things or go through those life lessons or whatever back then, I mean they're going to come up sometime. Yeah, you know what I mean. It could have happened when I was 40, but now it's like I know how to deal with it. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
29:41
Yeah, and dad had a whole thing. So in that podcast episode he did. She asked him. He has nine principles for life, I guess, and he only remembered five. And I'm only going to remember two of those, but one of them was I brought it before is the love, the person in front of you, which is pretty self-explanatory yeah, um, you know, I'm every person I'm big on that, but again, I wasn't always like that, right, you know I was a little shit, like I said in the past, but and I still get judgmental of people, but that's also like you have to give yourself forgiveness and something right. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
30:16
You know you're animal, you're human and I feel like it's okay to keep a wall up, like don't let them in so much because you don't want to be taken advantage of or because there is evil out there. There is evil people out there, there's people who can manipulate and this and that, but, you know, love them, accept them, like talk to them. You know, years ago I probably wouldn't have approached a random person or open a door and be like hey, what's going on? You know what I mean? Uh, just simple gestures like that as far as love the people in front of you. I'm sure Wayne has a way, better explanation and understanding of that, but I think that is extremely important. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
30:55
Yeah, that. And then his next one was so he believed in God's will and he talked about like searching most of his life on how to like help people achieve their God's will and all that, and I think he realized that it is not his job to help people find it necessarily he's like too much responsibility on himself, trying to affect other people's lives, but to trust God and God's will and to love that person for who they are, for where they're headed and the trust that they will find their way themselves, and that it's not his job to direct people and to help people find things. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
31:37
Which comes to the point where he said, when you told him your beliefs or whatever, it's like, hey, just be, you know, open-minded about exactly you know. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
31:47
I mean yeah, he didn't try to throw his what his view of the world is on me. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
31:52
Um, he just he believes in it so much that he believes people will find their way to it and he still loved you and uh, you know what's funny is he's like that. I see a lot of that in you too, because, uh, you never push any kind of certainty or agenda and then you're like, still friends with that person. Uh, you know, we've had conversations with people about, um, uh, politics, yeah, and it's like you can tell, whenever you're conversating about politics, like, well, this and this, you listen, you give what you know, but then when the conversation is done, jordan's like all right, man, I'll see you later. Like there's no judgment, you're loving the person in front of you and you're not pushing any kind of religion or politics or music you know, yeah, I think to an extent we all can go that way a little bit. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
32:47
I think I've gone pretty far that way, to where I'm so non-confrontational that it can be a small issue. Just because I I do think that there are ignorant opinions, that if I do know for a fact that that's just a bad one, I do feel like it's almost a responsibility to and you know, I don't think that person wake them up a little bit. 

33:07
You know you still have to take into account. How do you say something to help someone change their mind? You certainly don't be a douchebag, right? You certainly don't tell them why they're wrong, exactly, you know. You say it in a way that's like I honestly care for you to, to have an opinion. That's not. You're getting lost in something that's a little bit wrong here. And how do you do that without coming off as a douchebag? It's a hard game, that's. I mean it's almost impossible yeah it's chess, it's chess. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
33:33
And I'm horrible at chess it could take a long time. I mean, if this is someone you cross paths with on a Monday at the grocery store, it's probably not going to happen. But if this is someone in your family or your best friend or someone you grew up with that you stay in contact with, you know it's a long game. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
33:48
And I think that kind of goes back into what dad was saying with, like it's not his job to change people's minds, necessarily it's to love them anyways and to trust that they them, because they have to. 

33:59
Ultimately, for someone to change their minds, they have to go do the mental exercise of looking at it that way, be willing to let go of their strongly held belief, look at it another way and then either accept the new way or they can be like well, maybe the truth is in the gray somewhere. Hopefully that's where they come out. That's in my opinion, but ultimately that's for them. I can maybe say something, that's something whatever. But ultimately it's not up to uh me to change their mind, because ultimately I can't one and two. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
34:31
It might even do negative damage and we're humans and we're stubborn and we get stuck in our ways very easily. You know, we just get in that routine or way of thinking and that's just it's. It's a habit. We're creatures of habit, unfortunately. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
34:46
So I had a whole other plans for a story in Word of the Week. I'm just you know what the Word of the Week this week is Wayne, wayne, we miss you, buddy, yeah. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
34:56
And that is a message from Jordan's dead dad. He's dead. You know what I think we should do? I think we bring this into our show. Mom's got the ashes at the house. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
35:09
I'll bring them in. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
35:12
Deer and Wayne segment. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
35:14
We plop them up here. Plop them up here. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
35:15
No, but you said you got all those letters. I think it's a good idea because he is such a smart dude. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
35:22
It's a shame for all that to be lost because, like the world, we live, in today how fast we're moving forward with information and like things like, just like social media, we'll post a video. If it doesn't go anywhere in an hour to the ether, no one will ever see it, probably ever again. Um, and all the stuff that's not on the internet we're not even looking at anymore. All of dad's stuff is there, yeah and uh, you, you know it's funny. I share our stuff on my page. No one likes it. I shared dad's posts. You know plenty of people come around commenting and liking and I was like okay, cool, I guess there are people seeing my stuff. 

35:55
So we figured it out. We're just going to incorporate. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
35:58
Wayne's shit with ours, yeah. So they have to watch it. I'll exploit my dead dad and with AI we could possibly bring Wayne back to life Could be him. We could put a mask, we could ask Tony. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
36:12
We could just. Technology does great things. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
36:15
I mean, you're wearing a shirt. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
36:16
You're wearing Wayne's shirt. I am wearing his hoodie right now. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
36:19
So I mean, yeah, I think it'd be a good segment. I think not only a good segment for the listeners or the viewers, I think it'd be a good segment for us and for me, you know, because he's a smart dude- and we talk about mentorship. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
36:32
You know, this may be a way to kind of carry on his legacy a little bit. Maybe I'll just bring in a quote for the end of the episode. Stick around to the end. I don't have one this week, but I mean I'll find some of his writings and just find something. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
36:43
I read it from it gives a little insight maybe we'll end up in jail. I hope not, because we would be fucked probably because our dicks are out in public. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
36:53
I mean, we would be, could you imagine? 

Daniel Lawson
Host
36:55
though? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
36:56
being in jail? Yeah, I've been there oh yeah, that's right. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
37:00
I couldn't imagine, was it brute, was it terrible it's boring as hell. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
37:04
One day day I had a DUI Big mistake. I don't. I've been purely sober for a long time. Oh, six months now actually. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
37:12
I mean, that's a long time and I don't have any plans to go back? Don't enjoy it, but you weren't like a raging alcoholic. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
37:18
I was just irresponsibly driving drunk because I wanted to go hang out with my friends and I was too cheap to pay for an uber was you in the beamer, the bmw? No, no, I was in that civic remember that yeah, I had the window pinned up with a. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
37:31
Uh, like a, like a goldfish stick or something like that. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
37:35
It was like an rc cola, like 12 pack uh casing. I folded it up and crammed it in there to stick it up to where it's pinned up against the wall. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
37:43
Yeah, because if you took it out, it would just man cars, old cars, old cars. When you're kids, you know. But did you work? Did you pay for that? Well, my dad found deals. I've never had money, daniel, did you appreciate? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
38:02
it. Well, if you looked at it, I don't think you'd you'd say that that civic. I don't think I changed the oil in it for eight years. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
38:10
God, I didn't ran, I had it for 10 years that's pretty impressive, the toughness of a honda I mean, and bitches last forever. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
38:17
Oh yeah, I'll go back to a civic any day yeah, uh, civic and toyota, I feel like those things. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
38:22
I had a Chevy Cavalier and it was a stick shift and that thing lasted forever. Yeah, I feel like those things could have 800,000 miles on it and still sell for $2,500. We got us a Chevy Cavalier first $2,500. Each year it's got 800,000 miles. People swarmed to that shit. That Civic was $2,500 this year. It's got 800,000 miles. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
38:45
People swarmed to that shit that Civic was $2,500, wasn't it? That was crazy. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
38:49
That's so funny so word of the week is Wayne. Wayne, we miss you, we love you, appreciate your advice to Jordan, and then Jordan passes that on to us. I think it's super awesome, but now we come to the part that just pisses me off. The part that just makes me want to take my toe, put it in the door and just boom, toe, jam, toe, jam. The part that we like to say. What? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
39:22
twists our nips Twisted nips Daniel. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
39:27
My fucking kids man. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
39:31
Every single one of them. Yeah, I can tell I love them. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
39:35
I wouldn't trade them for the world. I may trade them for a boat, but I love them. But the one thing that they do that just gets on my nerves and you'll experience this one day. Oh God, and these listeners and viewers. No, seriously, I do love my kids. They're great. Don't know what I'd do without them. They changed my life for the good. You know, he has to say that, I have to say that, but they have changed my life tremendously and I love them to death. But those little fuckers get on my nerves and it's like they have supersonic hearing. 

40:14
I'm in the pantry. Okay, kids could be upstairs. They could be on their tablets. They don't hear you when you say, hey, go brush your teeth. They don't stop what they're doing. You could be yelling at the top of your lungs they don't stop what they're doing. You could be telling them to hey, let's go outside. We're about to leave. They're still on the tablets. But the second you open up a bag of chips or a bar or the refrigerator, they want to know what you got. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
40:46
I feel like you're bringing Wayne back from the dead a little bit. Here. I feel like I'm being talked to by my dad. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
40:55
The second you open something they're're like can I have a bite? Selective, what you got? Eli could have already ate breakfast, lunch and dinner and I haven't ate all day. I go to open something and dude's like what you got? I'm like chill bro, let me get a bite. Okay, I open up a peanut butter and jelly the Uncrustables, so it's like you know and he's looking over like what you got like about to ask for one which he's more than welcome to, by the way. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
41:25
Well, caney has the animals like that but they want mine. Caney's have the, the animals, no matter when we get the food. We lay the food out for the dogs, they immediately hop on the bed with us for what our food is. When we're done eating, they'll go eat their food, whatever. But yeah, I don't do anything. I am 100% on the. You don't ever get anything from me. You don't get my food ever. 

41:45
This is my food, don't ever touch it. Yeah, but she gives in. But she can eat. Yeah, she's giving them mac and cheese. A dog doesn't need mac and cheese. What does that do to their bowel movements? Yeah yeah, their diarrhea, of course. And who cleans it up? Probably you, of course, me, jordy. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
42:05
Clean up shit at my job and at home. Yeah, I mean, yeah, what's mine is mine. They could starve, yeah, and you know it is what it is, but that's natural. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
42:14
You know, once they start starving, they'll go get their own food, right? Yeah, you just gotta let them naturally starve. You know where it is starving your kids. Sometimes it's the only solution you got. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
42:23
Yeah, don't take that advice, okay, come for me and not as a dog dad I love my kids but every time I open something or whitney something, it's like they could even be upstairs. It is unbelievable. If you put something, layton, she eats all the time, all day She'll walk around. She had a fruit roll up at 7 o'clock this morning okay, god, I miss that. And she like is candy, candy, candy, nandy is what she calls it. But yeah, she could eat and eat and be done. But the second I pop something in the microwave or and it beeps and it's done, or she smells it, she'll go, she'll even smell the air. It's the craziest thing She'll be like. And then she'll be a bite, a bite, a bite. Mia Whitney got some Mexican the other night, like chicken, cheese and rice or something. She ate all her stuff and was done. She was crying, she wanted to get up, she smelled that Mexican. Whitney said wait a second, here she comes, sure enough, she walks up a bite like this kid. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
43:28
I saw her eating the queso and chips. Yeah, it was that night. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
43:32
I was like, oh my God. But you know, know, it's so funny. I don't know why that is, but, and maybe I was like that as a, as a kid, but you know, they just want what daddy and mama's got. I don't know if it's like the cool thing, yeah, or if they're just like hey, let me wreck your day let me eat your peanut butter. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
43:48
A fruit roll up at 7 am. I miss my early 20s yeah late. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
43:51
No, pull my hand. I'll pull my hand, she'll pull me in there and then she'll point at the fruit roll-ups. I gotta open it. 

43:57
I unroll it all and I put it around her neck and then she'll walk in here and it's like you know, look like soldier boy with a fruit roll-up necklace and yeah, so that's what twists my nips for the week, cause I feel like I've been so busy this week I haven't really ate at normal times and then when I get ready to eat, I just want to eat. Yeah, I haven't had breakfast like the kids. I haven't had snacks throughout the day, I haven't had the luxury of just walking to the fridge I barely even drunk anything, you know, cause I've been working all week. I just want to freaking nips and they're twisting them huh, did you record that sound? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
44:43
by the way, uh, which sound in the newest episode that now caney had me wanting to go through? We were going through all the sound effects she's wanted me to find like a kind of a sexual pleasing one. Oh, that's it we went through a couple. We found that one thought it was funny. That's, we've been looking for new. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
44:51
I would hate to uh see what the search bar looks like. Oh yeah, that moaning new moans, male moans, very sexual moans. That's so funny. Well, um, you got anything else? Before we sum up oh uh, update, I'm still not on um my anxiety medicine let's see here how many uh, empty promises have we made? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
45:13
We don't have a vision board. You're not on your anti-anxieties. I don't even remember. I know we've forgotten plenty of our like what we're going to do this week no, I've been practicing that stuff. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
45:23
Like, if you haven't, I've stopped meditating. I haven't meditated after that one. Yeah, it's like I episode done. I don't have any time. Like, but Lucas Lucas messaged me my buddy that I've been eating breakfast with on Tuesdays. He'll say, uh, pretty much like hey, do you need an accountability partner? I'm like, oh, so you're gonna meditate with me? He's like no, I'm just gonna make sure you do it. I'm like you know that may be a good idea, just like, yeah and check. So he messaged me. He's like so you've been meditating in the mornings? I'm'm like shit, no, I haven't. You know, yeah, I'm like, but this spring break, you know, and that week prior there was a lot going on. But when they go back to school on Monday, daniel schedule your priorities, that is, don't prioritize your schedule. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
46:10
That was the last episode. But forgive, forgiveness, you know. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
46:16
Give me a little grace, we're human. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
46:17
We're following yeah, we're following in and out of life. All right, it's fine. One day we'll build the habit. You don't build a habit right away, unless it's drugs. Yeah, it just naturally happens. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
46:27
God science. 

46:31
But yeah, we hope you all have a good week. God science. But yeah, we hope y'all have a good week. Um, and you know, if you got questions about the word of the week, as wayne message jordan on instagram, the dude knows his dad like an open book. I know wayne decently well. I know him as a great man, I know him as a lover. I know him as a man who doesn't show you that you're getting on his nerves and he'll just pick up a book and read, because there's been many a nights where I guarantee me and jordan has gotten on his nerves but at the end of the day, he loves that you're having fun, you're having a good time. He ain't gonna disrupt that. He'll just pick up a book, eat a you know a little sugar wafer, drink some. Uh lit was his green tea did? Did he like that? 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
47:12
That was cheap. Dad had all off-brand off-brand fig Newtons, off-brand Oreos, off-brand honey nut Cheerios. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
47:20
I'm sure there's been some times where he's like, gotten up in the morning it's like where's my fig? Newtons? I used to tear them up at night. Fig Newtons and water are the perfect combination. I don't know what it is, but the off-brand Fig Newtons in the water is a perfect combination. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
47:34
We used to do it all the time. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
47:35
But we appreciate you, we love you. If you got something out of this episode, feel free to send us a message. Don't forget, we have that number to leave a voicemail. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
47:42
I will put it right up here. Go ahead and give that a call. Leave a voicemail Advice. Just wanting to say something? I don't care. If you just want to say something, yeah, feel free to leave it on there and I will listen to it and play it on the next podcast or whatever. 

Daniel Lawson
Host
47:59
Yeah, just bear with us as we go through this and maybe next episode or so, you know, with the renovations in the studio. But when we come back, just remember I'm Daniel, I'm Jordan and we're. 

Jordan Hunter
Co-host
48:14
Daniel and Jordan, we'll see you next time. Later-o.