Embarking on a journey of self-discovery isn't always about grand gestures; sometimes, it's the small steps that matter most. This episode peels back the layers of everyday struggles and the resilience required to turn life's challenges into stepping stones. I share personal stories and insights on the importance of gratitude, self-care, and the transformative power of stepping out of your comfort zone. Each moment, no matter how trivial it may seem, holds a lesson that prepares us for the next hurdle, and embracing this mindset is key to living a life filled with growth and contentment.
Have you ever pondered the profound shifts that occur when we dare to live authentically and make even the smallest changes to our daily routines? This discussion takes you through the valleys and peaks of personal transformation, emphasizing how moments of clarity can lead to a life of empowerment. From the serenity found in new hobbies like kayaking to the unexpected joy of solo travel, we explore the countless ways in which our lives can be enriched. We also consider the ripple effects of our decisions, inspiring others to pursue their happiness and live life on their own terms.
Wrapping up with a message of solidarity and understanding, I open up about navigating the uncertainties and transitions of life, from career challenges to personal loss. While Joey and I each grapple with our own hard times, our commitment to our listeners remains unshaken. Through the shared experiences of facing fears, finding purpose, and realizing the power of making positive changes, this episode stands as a testament to the strength found in community and the unwavering support we extend to each other, through every twist and turn life may present.
Embarking on a journey of self-discovery isn't always about grand gestures; sometimes, it's the small steps that matter most. This episode peels back the layers of everyday struggles and the resilience required to turn life's challenges into stepping stones. I share personal stories and insights on the importance of gratitude, self-care, and the transformative power of stepping out of your comfort zone. Each moment, no matter how trivial it may seem, holds a lesson that prepares us for the next hurdle, and embracing this mindset is key to living a life filled with growth and contentment.
Have you ever pondered the profound shifts that occur when we dare to live authentically and make even the smallest changes to our daily routines? This discussion takes you through the valleys and peaks of personal transformation, emphasizing how moments of clarity can lead to a life of empowerment. From the serenity found in new hobbies like kayaking to the unexpected joy of solo travel, we explore the countless ways in which our lives can be enriched. We also consider the ripple effects of our decisions, inspiring others to pursue their happiness and live life on their own terms.
Wrapping up with a message of solidarity and understanding, I open up about navigating the uncertainties and transitions of life, from career challenges to personal loss. While Joey and I each grapple with our own hard times, our commitment to our listeners remains unshaken. Through the shared experiences of facing fears, finding purpose, and realizing the power of making positive changes, this episode stands as a testament to the strength found in community and the unwavering support we extend to each other, through every twist and turn life may present.
Welcome back. It is a brand new week, a brand new night and a brand new show. This is episode 16. We are unscripted, unfiltered, unedited and we are going raw.
Speaker 2:My name is Joey, I'm Eric and we're your hosts. And welcome to Raw Minds.
Speaker 1:Oh man yeah buddy.
Speaker 2:So building, building eternal resilience and coping with life's up and downs. What do you think, buddy?
Speaker 1:That sounds like a good heading.
Speaker 2:I think yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Tonight we will talk about life, even though we talk about it every week, but I think this one is a good one to touch on tonight because, of course, that we all go through pretty severe tragedies and traumas and heartbreaks in our life, but we don't really touch on the smaller things that affect our day-to-day mental health 100%. You know what I mean the little things, and even though they're the little things, they are big things.
Speaker 1:It adds up right, 100% it does and it carries over to each day. Yeah, if we don't tackle the little things in life, the slaps in the face by life and the ones that will bring you down for a day or two, then it's going to bring you down for a week or two instead. Exactly, man, because, right, so we have to be able to tackle anything that life throws at us the best that we can, in the most positive way we can. So we don't stay down, yeah, and it doesn't affect our other day-to-day things that we need to, that we have responsibilities for. We're trying to hold off from creating that snowball effect, yeah, and the snowball effect of negativity.
Speaker 2:That shit fucking adds up fast too. Man, you know what I mean. You think I'll do it later, whatever it may be and then that thing it's going to roll and that's just rolling right behind you and it'll roll your ass right over and build up and build up, and build up. Man, you know, if you don't deal with that shit, I mean fuck, life's crazy, man, life's crazy, it's just. You know, you got to grab it by the horns and fucking give her I guess I don't know, man, it's nuts.
Speaker 1:For sure, man, and it's no matter how good your life is and no matter how good of a place you even get to, everything, good and bad has an expiration date. You know and a lot of people don't look at it like that right, so like, even with traumas and heartbreaks, and you know, that's temporary, you don't have an expiration date where on the other side, you'll be a lot better. But even in the good times and all the great things in your life has an expiration date, because something's going to come around the corner, especially as you get older, and one phone call could take that all the way. One incident can take that away.
Speaker 1:So when these good things happen to us and we get to good places in our life, is people really need to be grateful for those times, because even those don't last. You'll get more good. You know more good things will come later. But you know we go through seasons and runs of the ups and downs. Yeah Right, no matter how good in your life is, for three, four months, five months, everything is going great and then something boom, hits you and that just completely shatters you, brings you to your knees, so but that's life.
Speaker 2:Okay, I know how to well about that shit man.
Speaker 1:So be grateful for the things that you have, be grateful for all the good things that happen and that is in your day to day, you know, as as people always stress or even complain because I used to be that guy about the things you don't have, rather being grateful for the things that we do happen. Yeah, definitely Right, but it's those little things that we were just bringing up in life. That might be minor, but there's still stresses. It's going to happen. Everyone goes through them day to day. But preventing that snowball effect of the stresses of your, of the things in your life, and how do you handle that? The best you can. How do you tackle that? How do you talk about it so it doesn't build up, Right?
Speaker 2:So what's like work man. You know, I mean like you prioritize, you know your jobs or your tasks or whatever, but if you don't do that shit properly, you know that's just going to spill all over you, man, and you're just going to get overwhelmed. And the same thing in you know mental health and things that you have to deal with outside of work. Obviously you know it's just the same thing, man. That shit just spills over. So you need to take care of that shit and take care of yourself?
Speaker 1:Well, of course, because you, you come first, right, 100%, 100%. We've talked about this many times before. Is you come first before anybody, even your kids, and it sounds bad to say, but I don't mean it the way people think it's. If you're not the best version of yourself, how can you be the best version for somebody else? How, if you don't love yourself, how can you love somebody else? Yeah, if you don't take care of your own mental core issues, how are you going to be a good father? Yeah, the best father. Yeah, right, because your kids feed off that energy. Your kid, your wife, your girlfriend feeds off that energy.
Speaker 1:The people around you see, it feeling you right 100% man our job, our job as people, really need to look at these things that happen to us and, as we always preach, find the positive in it. We have to learn to love the things that happen to us, even if it's negative, because there'll be something better on the other side because of it. It's a lesson, man.
Speaker 2:You're going to learn a lesson out of that shit, you know, and that's that's at the end of the day. It could be a good lesson or a bad lesson, but it's a lesson, you know. And, like we said, everything has a positive and a negative. Without good, you need evil. You know, you have both. You need that shit, even in all superhero movies and all that stuff. You have the hero and then you have the villain, you know, and they go hand in hand, but it's just a matter. I mean that that's.
Speaker 2:That's whatever positive, negative, but it's it's finding, like we always say that that positive or that that lesson in it. And the lesson could be like oh, I'm never going to, I don't know, piss on that electric fence again. You know what I mean, because that shocked the shit out of me. That was the lesson I learned. You know what I mean, not saying that I did that, but, for example, there's just, it's just finding that shit, man, and sometimes you just feel I don't know. You just feel I don't know, man lost you know, but it's there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think us too is there. You know we have to learn to let go of control. You know a lot of the situations that happen and the results of those situations you have no control over. It happened, that's, it is done, and we have to learn to accept these things. Whether it was your fault or not and whether you like it or not, it still happened.
Speaker 1:You know we try to control these situations all the time and the amount of energy we waste trying to have control all the time when, if you just learn to let go of that control and accept the things that has happened, you'd be a lot better off. Yeah, because no matter what's happened to you and if you say it wasn't your fault, well, as we talk about all the time, it's still our problem, whether it's your fault or not. So it's the same thing where you just got to learn to let go of that control, accept what's happened, be way more self aware. And is it worth stressing yourself self over? Or are you able to let that go because all you're doing is emotionally punishing yourself for certain things, because you're trying to control it, when half the time we get so bent out of shape and stressed about things that we have no control over. But you want to control and you just drain yourself trying to control these situations, but you can't. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, as human beings, we're always looking for certainty. You know, everything that we do, it's always certainty, like, well, what's the weather going to be like tomorrow? You need to know that who's going to win the Super Bowl? You know, you're always looking to find, like the future, the certainty, because we don't like the uncertainty. You know we don't.
Speaker 2:And in order to break out of your shell, you need to be okay about not being uncertain. Or did I say that? Right? I think I did Something like that. You know what I mean. But and it's the truth, man, you know, and people say, oh, I'm okay, I'm uncertain, but it's not. We're always searching for certainty, and it's 100. You actually really sit back and reflect. You know when's the last time you're like, okay, god, take the wheel. You know what I mean Like you want to know everything. As human beings, you want to know the path, because that's just the way that we're built. But it's about stepping out of that comfort zone. And then, when you do step out of that, it's like I say sheep, you don't become a sheep to the society and you start learning to deal with things in your own way, in the uncertainty way you know, like, just you don't have to start worrying, because the worrying drives you crazy, man, and not knowing the uncertainty makes you crazy.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what fear is right. It's scared of the unknown, Right. You try to do things in your life when people want to make these changes and they want to leave this job that they don't like, and they they want a career change or they want to jump out of that airplane, but they're freaking themselves out because they're so scared. But it hasn't even happened Exactly.
Speaker 1:They don't know because we always try to find the worst in every situation. It's human nature for the most part. But yet if you stood back and looked at these things and you're like, you know what instead, what if it's the best thing that ever happened to 100% man, why? Why wouldn't we look at it like that? But we're so scared of the unknown. That's why most people live, and they just I shouldn't even say live exist because they're too scared to get out of that comfort zone.
Speaker 1:They're too scared to just, you know, wake up one day and say you know what? I'm going to start living for me and I'm going to just quit my job today and I'm going to do this, Maybe not to the extreme, but some people yeah, but that's what's going to make them happy. And then they're scared of the unknown. Well, I don't know if I'm going to pay my bills now, if I do what I really want to do because I'm comfortable over here. Right, I'm scared to go in this relationship because this person at the beginning is showing me things I've never felt before. But it's freaking me out, but I might get hurt. But instead of saying I might get hurt, Well, what if that person elevates you to the highest level you've ever been in your life? And your life is more than you can ever imagine because of this person become a millionaire.
Speaker 1:You never know yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, but instead it's like, oh scared, I'm going to run away because I'm going to get my heart broken Automatically. You just assume the worst rather than looking at it, and then you sit back and being content, like, say, for example, being single. I'm a single guy, I got to a really good place in my head, still have my daily struggles, but I'm content. Yeah, but do I, and that's what most people are with their jobs, and the same kind of thing is their content. Yeah, doesn't mean you're happy, though People don't put these two together. They think that being content is happy. I'm happy alone, I'm happy. You're not happy.
Speaker 2:You're content, yeah, when really when they sit by themselves.
Speaker 1:they're lonely, they're not happy as happy as they say they are with their career. They're just content. But because they're so scared to take that chance with that person, they're scared to go on. Too old to switch careers? No, you're never too old. I'm too old to go back to school and study. But I always wanted to study 20 years ago. Who cares? I'm too old to start dancing. I wanted to start dance classes. It doesn't matter what it is, You're going to do pole dancing.
Speaker 1:You know it. You know it. You know what the helicopter ride.
Speaker 2:That's what we that's. What it is, though and we spoke on this before too is, more or less, people are scared of getting to that point, and then, when they finally get to that point, they're like what the fuck was I scared for? You know, they build up this, this huge thing, in their head, man, you know, and they make all these, these hurdles in their head. Or like, like we said before, with Jose on, I think, episode 15 or 5. I mean sorry, 15 was yes or last time that you know, going skydiving, and the most scariest part is the drive there and going up.
Speaker 2:It's not even really the jumping, because after you jump out of that plane, you're loving it, you want to go back up and do it again. You're you're, you're scaring yourself, and you've already made this whole story in your head. You know, and now you're, you're convinced this is what's gonna happen, because your brain is a fucking powerful thing. You know, at the end of the day, though, you jumped out of the plane and you loved it, and you want to go back up again. You know, and it's the fear of getting to that point is what really fucks with people's heads, but you got to learn how to get out of that like, okay, I'm gonna step out of my comfort zone and half the I'm not I'm not saying all the time, but let's say about 80% of the time you step out of your comfort zone. It's gonna level you up, but I mean.
Speaker 1:Also depends on the work that you choose to put in right, stepping out of that comfort zone Right. If you can get that, that level of fear, and whatever it is and that's another thing is because we said this before is that most people you know they live for other people and not themselves. Yeah, they're always trying to please other people. I want people to be mad at them. There there are people pleasers. They're going doing things that didn't really want to do just because they wanted to do it, but it's really making you miserable and you'll live in a constant state of depression Because you're not living for yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but when you start living for yourself and coming out of those comfort zones and taking those chances, you'll get to a point that you never in your life meant, even just mentally, not even financially, mentally, that you you never thought you could get to. And I'm living proof of that because for 15 years I was suicidal, high anxiety disorder, always depressed, stressed to the max every day and you can barely sleep. I failed relationships, all this shit for 15 years and I could not shake it for the life of me. I went to psychiatrists, I went to counselors back then, you know, and then something else would happen and I'm on medication, and then something else would happen, and then I Couldn't get out of it. Just like when your heart broken is the worst feeling ever and in that moment, because it lasts for weeks and months, you think it'll never, you know, stay like this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you just feel so shitty. It's the same kind of thing and that's how I did for years. But after you put in the work, I started to do things like we always talk about level up. Do that one degree in your day, that's different out of your routine. And I started doing things I never thought I would do.
Speaker 1:Right, these little things, just tiny little things, like we always preach doing this, doing this, and because of that is you start getting to that point of Of like, especially mentally, being the best and most clear-headed I've ever been in my life. Yeah, right, so when people really like because when they're in their jobs and they're they're okay, they don't hate their job but they don't love it and they're just that, and you know what I mean they maybe go on one trip a year and they're they're always just kind of, they're just mediocre. You know what I mean Is they just think that's their life, that's this never gonna get better. I never can have that because I only make this. I'll never have this because of this. And, man, I tell you, when you start taking those chances and start doing these little things, not only does that help you in your mental state, even when you're super down and struggling, but even when you're doing good you can always do better and you got a shoot to do better every day.
Speaker 1:You got to be better than you were the day before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, leveling up, man, you have to. You're just gonna fall behind. You know, I meant, and that's like you fucking hit it on the nail right there because, like that, I'm Fuck, I'm going through that some crazy shit right now. Man, you know, and that's that's what I'm trying to find right now is a new hobby or something like that to To get me out of this fucking rut that I'm in. You know it's and I've come up that this summer I'm gonna buy a kayak Because I fucking loved it. I went used to go kayaking with the next and I fucking loved it. I meant, so I'm gonna go buy a kayak, I'm gonna grab a couple dubs, let's bring some music, tie up, listen to music and just fucking chill, men, and it's so relaxing, it's so peaceful and it's I. I Need to do it. I need it in my life and I think that that's my next Thing that I'm gonna start getting into. Have you ever gone kayaking?
Speaker 1:that's awesome. Oh yeah, it's peaceful to relax. I actually, I, I'm gonna go kayaking with you, man, I'll buy a car.
Speaker 2:Let's do it, bro. We'll hold hands, we'll skip right in that bitch and we'll buy to. Let's do it.
Speaker 1:But what I was gonna say, though, is that that's awesome to shoot for in the summer. Yeah, but what are you gonna shoot for from now till?
Speaker 2:I'm. I have already. I got my bands. I'm gonna do some bands cuz I got no time, like I'm working 11 hours, man, it's hard to get to the gym, so I'm getting up. Well, I've set my alarm for five, but now I'm gonna try to push it for four. I've done a couple band workouts in the morning and I'm just gonna keep on doing that for right now. And then Chris, my roommate, he just gave me this. It's called 30, 30, 30, where you do like 30 sit-ups, 30 push-ups, 30 planks, and then you switch over like no breaks and then you do it's like three cycles of Different I forget what he. I got it, I got it written down on the on the fridge there and you do a bunch of these cycles and it it gets you jacked, it gets you ripped, and I'm gonna start doing that as well. So it's just it's trying to get out of this fucking rut that I'm being.
Speaker 2:And then, for everybody that's listening, I mean it's been a fucking roller coaster. My mom had a heart attack. Thank God she's okay. She's out of the hospital now. And then my uncle just passed away. You know, in the UK and he was my favorite uncle. Man like that, one hurt. I wouldn't really hurt, to be honest with you. And Then I was seeing this girl for a bit.
Speaker 2:She, just out of the blue, dumped me. Everything was great. So, whatever though, it is what it is, shit, life goes on, you know. And then my kids mom moved into my house because she got kicked out of her house and, you know, as a good father trying to show my daughter, you know, this is, you know, to. This is how a man should treat a woman. She comes in my house. She's got a drinking problem. I told her the only thing that that you can't do is drink in my house. What does she do? She comes home and she's drunk and trying to take my daughter, you know. So it's a lot like just fucking spilling all over me, man, and I'm here, I'm doing the podcast.
Speaker 2:I was up till 2 30 in the morning last night. I'm dealing with this bullshit. I went to work and now I'm doing this. I'm tired as fuck, but I'm here, you know, and it's it's been a rough go and no, this is all within like three weeks. This has happened, you know, and it's it's trying to fight through this.
Speaker 2:And yesterday, man, I'll tell you, bro, I had a. I had a moment, man, like I mean we're working on this to you know, everybody that's listening. I mean, we're humans, we're. We're not perfect, we're not no superheroes, we're. We're struggling to at times, and right now I'm struggling, but I'm here and I'm pushing forward and I'm trying to see the light. And, like we preach tomorrow's a new day, and that's all it is, man, that's I close my eyes and and start fresh tomorrow. And you know what? Thank God, my work is my, my, my light, my, my savior.
Speaker 2:I love, I love work. I love what I do. I love building homes for people. You know, I love giving families a place to live. It's my passion, you know, and that's what. That's what helps me Get out of this. And another thing, too, man, is I started getting back into my books. I started reading unfuck yourself again for the fourth, fifth time, fifth time, I believe. You know, and I just you just got to keep on pushing through these hard times. I mean, I'm an example of it right now, going through all this shit. But look, I'm here, I'm smiling, I'm doing this with you, you know, and that's, that's just Just what we have to do. We have to Just figure it out. Know that tomorrow's a new day, and these are just temporary things, that you know. In a year from now, everything will be okay, but it's a matter of you have to do the work, though, for to get to that point.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm the pen and it all falls down to with anybody dealing with things like that and I'm really sorry that you have to go through that. I Know this. It's not easy, especially when things happen to family members, and you know we've talked a lot about in the past with you know, grief and loss. Yeah, as we get older, this it happens more and more getting old sucks.
Speaker 2:I Want to go back to the playground, scratch knees. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But at the end of the day, it's only up to you now on how you move forward. How do you deal with that exactly? You know you feel, feel the hurt, feel the loss, feel the the sadness for someone who's sick, feel it all in your human. You're allowed to you and you should.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, you feel, you feel, you heal and it's okay to cry, man, I fucking let it out as a man and I admit this right now yeah, it's okay to fucking cry, it's okay to feel those feelings and it's okay to express them, you know. And if you have a buddy or someone man, tell them vent. It's okay to do that. I'm not gonna lie, man, I was, I was, I had some fucking dark thoughts yesterday, bro, I really did, man, I had some fucking dark thoughts that really scared me. But you know it, it's okay to have those thoughts, but it's not okay to act on them, you know. And, of course, not.
Speaker 1:And I think when you're in that place Of sadness and stress and anger, even yeah, you're not thinking clearly, clearly, regardless. No, I Don't know how many times I've been so upset or so pissed off that I was driving down the highway. And you know, you have thoughts, people always have these thoughts. Well, it'd be easier if I just let go the steering wheel, if I drove into that fucking bridge Right, but you're not gonna do it. But if that is a consistent thought, every day you wake up and you're feeling like it's easier to not be here than to be here. Now it's a problem. Yeah, now you need to talk to somebody as a? Yeah, exactly, you know. And if you're feeling like that for weeks, for months, you need to do whatever you can, as hard as it is, in that dark room to find that light switch ASAP, exactly, man, find those outlets so you can start opening that door bit by bit to let some light in. Yeah, until eventually you know that light comes on well on that.
Speaker 2:No, bro, but we should plug our email there. You know, for people that that are having those thoughts, I mean we're here, you can reach out to us. So might as well just say raw minds podcast at gmailcom you can hit us up. I mean, like I said, I was feeling like that yesterday, but I didn't act on them. It was just it came in, came out. But if you guys are feeling like that, please reach out to us, or reach out to anyone that you can, or the hospital, your doctor, the helpline, all of it because your life matters. It really does, and we don't want to see you lose it. So no judgmental here. No, it's.
Speaker 1:It's not worth it. No, you're making permanent decisions on temporary emotions. I Know hey, I was there. I stood on the edge of a hotel. I never thought that would ever go away, feeling like that. But it was temporary, it lasted a while, but it didn't last forever. Yeah, there's always good days on the other end, on the other side.
Speaker 2:Well, like like our title says, lives ups and downs man.
Speaker 1:Right, that's right, it's, but it's these little things that we've been talking about, even that, that snowball effect that will build up to, or can build up to, serious depression.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm serious anxiety disorders, even eating disorders, and you name it health, health issues, believe me, at whatever you know, stress on the heart, all these things. Because all these little Day-to-day things that you push off to the side, you don't deal with your stress, so you let it roll over. You're living for other people, you're never happy because you're always trying to please everyone else. All these tiny things will build up and build up and build up over time, and maybe some of some people never went through severe trauma like we did. But there's also Different levels of stresses and and pains that we all go through, and Even the little pains, just like I said, stacks up, builds up, builds up, and you'll Create depression in yourself because you never dealt with these little things. So the little things are the biggest things Because these little things are the blueprint on how the rest of your life is gonna look.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I Heard a set. Now it's up to go ahead. Sorry, man, I didn't mean to cut off earlier, I just go ahead. I heard something like I read something the other day and I just want to put it to you and I want to get what your take on it. I think this is it's deep and Very sad and I think it kind of touches on kind of like how we're what we're talking about here and it says one of the worst feelings ever is being in your own house and feeling like you need to go home. What do you think about that man?
Speaker 1:Wow, it's deep shit.
Speaker 2:Hey, I've never Actually, I think well, definitely like being in your being, in your own home, one of the worst feelings and feeling like you just want to go being in your own house and feeling like you just want to go home, yeah, and that fucking D-roll, you know, and that's that's how I felt yesterday and like it really hit me.
Speaker 2:I was like yeah, like yeah, yeah, it's, it's yeah, man, kind of speechless, like yeah, right, it's fucking deep man. For everybody out there, I'll say it one more time one of the worst feelings ever is being in your own house and feeling like you want to go home or you need to go home, and I felt that before you know, I mean the build-up that just happened, like you're just saying Snowball effect, all these multiple things that's happened to me in such a short period of time. It's hard to fucking catch up and and take care of everything at you at once. It's hard, but you need to step back and smell the fucking roses Because if you don't step back and and and see the big picture, you're gonna get trampled and that quote right there. You will feel like that quote I just said if you don't start taking care of yourself and the all these little things that are building up.
Speaker 1:Well, in a part of Making your home is not the roof, just the roof over your head, and the furniture in here. Man, it's Up there. It's who you choose to share that home with. You know, it's the job that you choose to go to every day. It's the things that you choose to do in your life, whether if it makes you happy and fulfilled or you're living for other people. Yeah well, all change how you feel about your home Because of all these other things as well, to make it that home. Yeah, you know, and it's not everyone. So Everyone wants this big mansion and we all want this fancy house, and everyone does, and that's great to want it. But it isn't the size of your house, it's not the size of the roof over your head. It's the love that's in it. I Don't know, man. So those little fad, these little things, it's very good, but these little things that we're talking about and not letting it snowball Will create a happier home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it'll feel like home, not just a house. Yeah, what, right? Because once you, you let these little things, these tiny little things of life affect you, you push them off. You don't deal with, you push them off. You now affect your own relationship with your wife or girlfriend, you affect your relationship with your children, because you're not there and there's nothing behind your eyes. You're running on autopilot, like I did for 15 years. You know, you work, you might have a really good work ethic, like I do, but then you come to a point, like I have recently, that I've worked so hard in the wrong direction, yeah, right, which also affects how I feel about the inside of my home, because I'm carrying all these things on my shoulders and I'm not living a fulfilled, as fulfilled life as I want to, and my I'm not filling the cup that I need to fill. Let me ask you this then Do you feel, because you just said, you're living the life in the wrong direction.
Speaker 2:Do you feel Almost like you're? You feel Like you fucked up a little bit and you should have went a different direction, or like, how does that make you feel internally?
Speaker 1:No, I don't. I would never say that I fucked up because I worked very hard to get to where I got to and the job I've been doing for years. I worked so hard to get to the rank and position that I got to and I I enjoyed my job. But sometimes you in people in Life like for me, I'm 41, and Even at 41, especially people our age would never make a career change, would never. They just think, well, I've already been doing this for years, so fuck it.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying I'm not doing it, so fuck it, I'm just gonna keep going because you're comfortable. But I'm not built like that. But I got to a point and it's the weirdest feeling, and I'm sure a lot of people feel this way they're just going back to the fear and scared of the unknown. Because you got kids, because you got a wife, you got a mortgage, you got this and that understandable. But what if it's the best thing that you've ever done or that it's ever happened to you? So for me, you know, in the last, say, six months especially, I've never been dragging my feet but I've had this feeling like I'm supposed to be doing something else. You know, I like the guy, I love the guys I worked with. You know I worked really hard to get to where I was at. It's decent money, all these things that helps me take care of my kids. But I Got to a point where it's like a plateau. But hey, we get somewhere in your life.
Speaker 2:You just but you liking, these guys is not gonna pay your bills, right? You know what I mean. No, you know you got to do what matters.
Speaker 1:You know, I say Well, and I stayed longer, like a lot of people with loyalty, and then you only find out that they're. You know these companies and these people. Just read that you're just 100% man. They don't. They don't care about you, they'll have. You know, if you died tomorrow, they would have someone else filling your spot, regardless of how talented and smart and educated your position is. Before your friend. Read your eulogy at your friend, because they're just you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So I Don't feel as I've had mistakes at all, but because of that, all of that, it is now pushed me to a point of that driving force like I've never had, the focus I've never had doing this with you, doing all these side hustles on the side, trying to do this, trying to, and just in the most positive and the most driven. I've always been driven, but I Haven't turned my. For example, I haven't turned my TV on in a year and a half, unless the kids are over watching a movie. I don't watch TV. I'm on the table every night. I go to the gym, I'm writing shit down. How am I gonna make this work? What are we gonna do? And I just and I just. And so I'm so grateful for that, because you get to that point of plateau in your life, whether it's your job and, sorry to say, but even Relationships, your relationship plateaus you made it you genuinely made the effort.
Speaker 1:You get to a point where you realize that it's not my forever person, whatever that is, and it just plateaus. You tried, you can honestly say, as long as you can honestly say, whether it's in the relationship, the job, whatever your sports doesn't matter that you put a hundred percent effort into it, that you tried yeah because then sometimes things don't work out in life.
Speaker 1:That's, that's like yeah, man yeah but if you can sit back, that I worked my ass off, I gave it a hundred percent. Then you know for a fact that there's no well what ifs later on and regrets later on. The only reason you got what ifs and regrets is because you didn't a hundred percent put in the effort into that. And now you're questioning it. You didn't listen to your gut, you didn't. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So what would you say? So are some Some tactics you could use to get out of like these little ruts to help you elevate.
Speaker 1:For if I could give advice, and what helped me and I think we mentioned it once before is Do things you never thought you would do. Do and like pull dancing the lid, and I mean even Pull dancing that works, helicopter rides. But the little things and even you can, because a lot of them that I did and I've said this before I used to think was stupid as fuck until I Till I was in a place that I know I needed to change. But you'll never change unless You're ready to change. Everyone always says, yeah, I gotta stop doing that and I know I keep, you know, falling in love really fast and then running away, like People always say they got to stop doing these things and they got a change. But are they ready to change?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:When you are genuinely ready to change. In Order to do that, you have to change your routine. You have to change your daily habits. Some change needs to change. Have to do that Change. You need change to see change. Yeah, you have to. So, finding these small little things, whether even in your own home, and that you can't get out of the house, or meditations and affirmations and Taking classes and just start researching and even if you like I, found Things I'm like I wouldn't like that, but I tried it anyways and guess what fucking love you know what I mean. Like I did oxygen yoga, I tell you, man, like for me, look at me Before this. You know, when I went through my change, or I knew I needed to change me doing yoga, I'm like I ain't doing fuck, that's for girls.
Speaker 2:Now you got the spandex on, you're gonna fucking downward dog.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got the neon green headband, yeah. But what I'm saying is and then I did it and it wasn't like the real core, like I can't bend, like a principle, I'm not flexible, but I started doing like the easier ones, like the meditation candle ones, the relaxation and breathing Sounds cheesy as fuck. But I tell you, every night I went to that I felt like a million dollars coming out of that. I'm like why did I not do this five years ago? And so what I'm saying is find these things, even if you're like that doesn't interest me and it's a class, it's a course, you have no idea what interests you until you actually do it.
Speaker 1:It's just like how many foods has it ever been put in front of you that you've never tried? And everyone's like you I'm not gonna eat that. I don't like that. How the fuck do you know? You've never tried it. I've never tried it Because I know a million foods I tried growing up that I never tried before. I'm like, yeah, I don't wanna eat that, and I tried it if I wanted one of my favorite foods. I was like that what's the same? Same print, same print, same print.
Speaker 1:Right, look at things that you know that's gonna benefit you and your health, your physical, your mental. Even if it might seem boring, it might seem like you really don't think I wanna do that, do it. That's the change you need. That's that one degree that we always talk about, with that ship sailing in the ocean. That's that one degree that you veer off in the direction that you're in, because your direction is a straight line and it's the same. You know what I mean Is nothing is gonna change. You're just gonna stay the exact same. You're never gonna elevate, you're just gonna flat line your rest of your life because you're not making changes, you're not doing different routines, you're not these little things that start taking you on different paths, but you want the pet like.
Speaker 1:You know what we were talking about falling off the path. It's okay to fall off the path as long as you get back on, but everyone thinks that their path and their road in life is supposed to be a straight line. To be honest, you want your life to be on this path, but you're still on the path, and you're on a positive path, right? Because as you're going around here on this bend, this is where you're meeting new people. This is where you meet the love of your life. Now you're all of a sudden a career you never thought you'd be interested in, but you stay straight in arrow and you're flatlining. You're not gonna meet the people. You're not gonna meet the person you're supposed to be with. You're gonna be stuck at a job that just pays your bills, but you're never fulfilled and you're gonna live a life and being depressed all the time Because you're only living for other people and not for yourself.
Speaker 2:Exactly man.
Speaker 1:You know what? You're not even the little things, and we, as people, we always wait to, I think, for when you really wanna do something, you've always wanted to do, it, it's on your bucket list. Or you just wanna go to that movie, because that movie you've been waiting to see, but you don't go do it. Or you don't go on that trip because, oh, nobody's gonna go with me, so I don't do it. Yeah, do it yourself then, because everyone, that's what I'm saying Go anyways.
Speaker 1:Why are you waiting on other people to fulfill your life and do the things that make you happy? Well, I don't wanna sit in a movie by myself. I don't wanna go to Mexico by myself, why not they? Nobody, you know, and everyone's gonna. People will judge me because I'm who yeah?
Speaker 1:You're in Mexico. You don't know anybody. Talk to people. Yeah, I meet people. Do you have any people I met? Do you have any people I met in one hour, just going a two hour drive and staying at a hotel man, no problem. I mean, and everybody's out there to help me, so don't wait on yeah, don't wait on other people to live your life. Don't live for other people and live your life.
Speaker 2:Exactly, man, exactly.
Speaker 1:So when these little things in life hit us, you know I got laid off. I'm back to work now, but I got laid off. That's a big thing when you're my age, making, you know, decent money and a job. You've been for years, but that wasn't my fault still my problem but I didn't let that overtake or take me down. Yeah, you have a couple of shitty days, of course you do. That's normal. You're allowed to have shitty days. I encourage you. You're supposed to. You're fueling those emotions. You're fueling those emotions.
Speaker 1:I'm not burying it. I'm not feeling sorry for myself drinking. I'm not doing this. Poor me Trying to change and try to control the situation that you have no control over. It is what it is. And guess what? Now you've got to accept what's happened whether it was this that happened to me or whatever that happens to you and let go of that control, except that this is what the universe put out for you. And now, what are you gonna do about it? Now, okay, I got something that's a little heavy. Okay, now I need to fix it ASAP. What am I gonna do? And you know what. It's.
Speaker 1:A blessing, it's already a blessing for me, and it's a blessing for everyone that's dealing with these heartbreaks, these stresses, because there is that positive and the negative, even when you don't see it. Well, let me, because your stress, I wanna ask you this? Your depression and your heartbreak is your biggest blessing.
Speaker 2:Are you? Are you proud of where you are right now? Do you feel proud? Or do you ever second guess yourself? Because I second guess myself all the time, man Like sometimes I feel proud in little things, but then like, am I even doing what is proper? You know? Like, do you ever like feel like that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I write things down every night. And for us being here tonight sitting doing this every week, for me and my side to get to this point of getting through everything that I went through, I am beyond proud of myself. I've worked so hard. And then there's days where yeah, I'll sit here and I'm like, and this is where we have to learn to stay in that state of being grateful and sometimes I slip out of that.
Speaker 2:I do, I'm human. I've been slipping lately, but then Definitely. Yeah and it's okay.
Speaker 1:We all do it and I, you know, I have a nice little home, my kids are healthy, all these positive things. You know I was only laid off for three weeks. Not the end of the world, whatever, but all these things still there's, all these positive things. But it's funny. You said that is because I seen something not too long ago and it said you know what one of the worst feelings is is when everyone tells you that you're doing such a good job and you're amazing dad and you're such a hard worker.
Speaker 2:But then, when you go home and you're by yourself and you look in the mirror, you feel like you're doing this and I saw that and that's why, and like it really stuck out to me, I saw the same thing that you saw and it really stuck out to me and like, sometimes I feel like that lately, you know, like I'm trying to do the best I can, trying to take in my kid's mom, you know, and be a good ex-father or whatever the hell you wanna an ex, whatever we are, you know, and it's just, it's like, am I doing the right things? Am I? Is it like I struggle with that lately? It's hard, you know, it really is. It's a struggle, man, you know. But like we say, tomorrow's a new day, but it's sometimes, when you're deep in that shit, man, it is hard to find that light switch, you know. Mind you, I'm like this, I'm looking for that shit, I'm all over the place, you know, like this, and then I'll find it for a minute and then it'll just go out again, you know.
Speaker 2:But I don't give up. I mean, that's why we sit here every week, that's why I'm here. I only had like two and a half hours sleep, maybe three hours of sleep last night, but I'm still here, you know, because you can't give up. You gotta keep on pushing forward, but it's just sometimes I'm not, I'm not proud because I'm not where I wanna be in life. I guess you could say, and maybe that's what it is that drags me down. You know, and we're the we're our worst critics. You know, we truly are worst critics, and when we're hard on ourselves, we're fucking hard on ourselves. So maybe I just answered my own question there. Maybe I'm just being too hard on myself and to let up a little bit.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean this kind of goes back to earlier when you asked me if everything I've done up until now, if I regret or think you know what I mean and I think that's why I was feeling the way that I was feeling. You know you get to that plateau and you just feel, you know you're like, and if it's every day you're feeling it, you gotta listen to it, like that's your body and your gut telling you something. And for me, every day, every day, I went to work like I said I love the guys, I wasn't miserable, I had a great in that sense, nobody broke down my neck, I was a big supervisor, blah, blah. So I had to get that way. But yet every day I'm like I'm supposed to be doing something else. For some reason, I'm like I'm not supposed to be doing this anymore.
Speaker 1:So in that and those months goes to what you just asked and I'm like, I just feel like I'm not where I'm supposed to be, even though I was working hard and I had a good job. But I just felt like I was lost and I think majority of the people out there are lost. They are lost and they're just coasting. They're existing, they're all lost. They're zombies, like even walk through that. I even noticed it before we even started talking about this. I took my kids to the mall the other day so I bought some shoes and for some reason I was just aware of looking around at people for a minute.
Speaker 2:Zombies we live in, fucking zombie without eating your face off every.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not even just talking about in your phones, just the people's expressions, the fucking zombie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Everyone. There's nothing behind people's eyes anymore.
Speaker 2:It's not brains are gonna, they're all fucking Wi-Fi, wi-fi. I mean, it really is man, it's controlling this fucking thing. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:But I mean why?
Speaker 2:just mean in life, in general.
Speaker 1:I mean the economy and North America is so expensive, yeah, that all has to parts to it, and we don't know what anyone else is going through behind closed doors. But when you actually start to notice Thousands of people that walk by you and I'm all all look the exact same, yeah, they're all lost. See, I wouldn't nobody Living a fulfilled life.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say that I feel lost, but I mean that that gray zone of Transformation I guess you know what I mean going from this was my life to what is next in my life, you know there's that, that that gray zone in between, and it almost feels like lost, but it's. I wouldn't say I don't feel lost, but I just feel like the uncertainty. That's it, like we were saying early, like we're always chasing certainty, and it's the uncertainty that it's like what is next, like what's going on.
Speaker 1:Well, I think you're also in UN. A lot of people are in that gray zone, and that's actually a scary place to be is in the gray zone because you don't want to get stuck in fuck. So in the gray zone is where People struggle because you haven't found a real purpose yet, and that's what everyone is reaching for. Is is trying to find their why. They're like we have wise in terms of kids, but what drives you in life, what makes you feel fulfilled in life with Career for hobbies, like all these things like a don't get me wrong something that you know you're supposed to. This is it, man, the purpose?
Speaker 2:oh, this is. This is a huge part of it. I mean I need, but there's little things that time. Well, I need to find the hobby to like Joy, like I mean I used to play soccer all the time. I don't play soccer anymore because I don't hit my goal post and I hit the goal post and dislocate my shoulder and I fucked my career up. But I mean I gotta find that hobby because I don't have fucking hobbies, man. I mean I listen to audiobooks, I do this, but this isn't really even a hobby. This is something I like. I guess not a hobby, you know, but I need to find that passion again that I had, like how I had it for soccer Back in the day, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the thing is.
Speaker 1:That's the crazy with a lot of people and, like we talked earlier, is get it. Finding those things. That's different in your day. Yeah right, and the reason why people are an autopilot and fucking zombie land is because every day is the same for them every day. They're not making changes, they're scared to try this, they don't want to try it, they haven't even made it effort to try. They automatically know I don't like that stupid. Yeah Well, you haven't tried it. Just like the food same thing, same principle.
Speaker 1:But you're not trying these things, you're not giving it a shot, you can't. You're not Making an effort to play. You know what? I tried a class. It wasn't for me, boom, done, you tried it. But guess what? I bet you, you met two or three pretty fucking cool people in that class and never know that that person in a class you just met is now somehow related to this other industry that you always thought of and might have this huge. And boom, now you're in school networking, but people don't realize either is you don't know who you're gonna meet when you're out, especially when you're doing the positive things, because when you're doing these positive things, who else is doing positive things? Positive people, because it's positive, it's happy, they're happy, they're in a good mood because they're going to their class every weekend. Now you start going to that class. You're just around happy people because they're all doing what they want to do, and then you meet this person that might change your life. You might meet the love of your life. You don't fucking know never know man.
Speaker 1:But it's starting. But it's starting with these small things when we get kicked in the face by life. And you know, it's okay to take a knee, it's okay to cry, it's okay to be stressed, it's okay to have a bad day. But if you're still in your room pouting about what happened six months ago now, it's your fault. Now it's nobody else's fault, even if it wasn't your fault back then it's now you're over into, because you chose not Because now you chose to do nothing about it.
Speaker 1:And now you're playing the victim, like a lot of people do, poor me. I'm like this because of what my boyfriend did to me eight years ago, like no, now it's your fault, it's not what he did. Now it's you because you chose not to fix that. Whatever it is and whatever it is that you're going through in your life, it's the choice that you now make. Whether it was your fault or not. It is your problem to fix. It is your responsibility, and you and you only can make that 200%.
Speaker 1:So these little things, talk about it, deal with it, don't let it build up. That's why relationships ends because you, fucking these tiny little things is just bugging you and bugging you and bugging you from this person and instead of talking about it and getting through it, you just let it built up. And then, three months from later, in his massive fight, it just blows up and then you make a bucking permanent decision on temporary emotions Fuck you, it's over. And then they run with that and then a week later, you're just like heartbroken because you actually didn't really want to be, but because you let things build up, you dealt with it wrong and now you cost you a relationship or cost you a job Because you didn't deal with these things exactly.
Speaker 1:So you got to take all these little things, talk, hit it head on, deal with it, be done with it. And it's one less stress, because the amount of things that we stress about on the day to day that affect us, and then we do nothing about it. You're like, oh, it's not that big of a deal, and then I just distract myself, I'm going to go, hang on, my friends, I'm not going to think about that today. Yeah well, you're going to think about it tomorrow and the day after that and then eventually you just you'll keep distracting yourself, just like when you're dealing with Traumas and heartbreaks.
Speaker 1:You just don't want to be distracted, heartbreaks, you just don't want to feel like that and you don't want to stress the same thing, even with the small things. So you distract yourself. I don't want to do what that's it. I don't want to talk to you right now. It's just stressing me out. No, talk about it, deal with it. And then tomorrow you're just pushing that down because, guess what, tomorrow something else might happen to you, exactly that stresses you out now you got two things instead of one pile.
Speaker 1:Now you're just letting these, now you're just letting a pile up and then eventually you're gonna, like we always say, you're gonna bleed on people that didn't cut you, because now you're gonna blow off, fucking blow a gasket on on somebody who had nothing to do with the bullshit that you're dealing with, but they were the one that was around and you just happened to let it out that day. And then now you affected somebody else when they had nothing to do with them. So true, so don't let these little tiny things build up and hit head on. Deal with it, talk about it. If it's your wife, girlfriend, your Relationship. You got to talk to the tableman Because I'm living proof man, because I didn't talk about it. Failed relationship after failed relationship broke my own heart. Self sabotage, you know, stressed at work. But people are scared to speak up because they're treated unfairly or they're actually treated poorly or disrespected. Fucking, say something. It's your life. Yeah, why do you?
Speaker 1:and if you're like well, I might get fired. Well, why do you want to work for someone who treats you like that?
Speaker 2:exactly. Man have some self respect.
Speaker 1:Have self respect and everyone's so scared. Well, I've been at this job for five years, yeah. Well, how many fucking jobs are there? There's a million. Do you think you're not gonna find another one with your qualifications? Because look at the experience you just you just got in those five years. You don't think that's gonna go somebody's? But people are too scared to speak up. People are too scared of that uncertainty.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what happened to me, man. Well, if I remember, I quit. I said fuck this place. You know these people. That's shitty, shitty work environment, so toxic. When we used to, we work together. I said, fuck this, I'm out of here, and I left. And now I work for one of the best fucking companies, probably even in Canada in construction, to work for it, man, and I've never been happier.
Speaker 2:I enjoy going to work, man. I enjoy getting up in the morning and going to work and doing my job. You know, and it was the best fucking move I did At the time I was scared. I was like, oh fuck, where am I gonna go? And the uncertainty. And look, I'm fucking happy man. I'm making even more money than I, than I was doing. I'm working with people that actually care about you.
Speaker 2:You know they say good job, like the vice president today. He's like good job, man, you're killing it, keep up the great work. How many times did you hear that man at our other company? How many times Exactly, man? You know it was a great change and it's funny. I quit and then the ball just started rolling, man, and people just started quitting and quitting and quitting, and it just takes that one person to get that ball rolling. And you know I paved the way for these people like fuck, like this company is no good man, let's go, let's get out of here. You know people don't deserve to get treated like that shit. And they're gonna take that shit home, man, you know, and they're gonna. A lot of people can't just leave that, leave work at home. They take it home, you know, and it affects your family and stuff.
Speaker 1:It's just and it affects your home house like we were talking. All that snowball is into your home and how you feel in your exactly, man, the work that you're doing. You know you gotta go. People need to go where they're celebrated, not where they're told.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean. All that takes a huge part in filling your cup being fulfilled, having self-respect In relationships, your work, everything. Build that ceiling of self-worth in your life, amen. If you're disrespected and treated unpoorly or you're sexually harassed, whatever in the job, walking to that office tomorrow say I fucking quit, fuck yeah have some self-respect, but don't expect them the same thing and just shut that door.
Speaker 1:Go to the man and have some self respect, because you will do so much better and just like you Did the same thing. And now you work for one of the best companies with great people and make my money percent man. Because you got tired.
Speaker 1:You got tired of shit and one day you're like fuck yeah, and I told them fuck off and then if you're in and Same in relationships, you're being abused, you're being disrespected, you're being cheated on all these other negative things. That is not a relationship. But because you've lowered your self-esteem and your self-worth Because of this, you're afraid to leave, because you won't find somebody else true, man.
Speaker 1:Well, guess what, when you get rid of this, these toxic idiots, and Then all of a sudden you start elevating and start leveling up and doing these small things that we talk about, you will attract someone a million times better. You will attract friends Better than you've ever had and you'll get the jobs and work with people you never thought. You exactly, man. That's a guaranteed, that. That's a 100% fact.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Misery loves company. Well, guess what so does. Being fucking happy and positive all the time Attracts happy and positive people, success, successful people. You know people that'll stand beside you and build you up, whether it's your boss or your fucking wife and girlfriend or boyfriend, whatever because you're on the same page now and you're trying to move up and work together to Escalate your life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if they're not on your team but finding that one big yeah, but finding that one degree of change every day. If you don't change, nothing changes exactly. But everyone's in fucking zombie landmen because they're just the same routine every day, doing the same thing, watching the same fucking TV show on Thursday nights and going on maybe the one same vacation every, every Halloween, whatever. That's fine, but Start changing your fucking lives up. Live for yourself. You want to go see that movie and nobody wants to go with you. Go to it, anyways, who cares? Because that makes you happy. That's something you want to do. You know you want to go on bucket list because I have a bucket list of somewhere I want to go. I guarantee nobody less magically, that we came to a spot where you go. Nobody's gonna go there. That's not on their bucket list. So I'm mine.
Speaker 1:So I think I'm gonna take the kids next year because it's on my bucket list and be something cool. But I'm gonna go by myself. Yeah, that's kids. But even if I didn't have my kids, I would still do it because that's my bucket list. I always wanted to do it. I'm not gonna wait anymore for other people so I can live my life because I don't never have it Exactly, and then you and then you're upset and then we set these expectations on everything and that's why we get so hurt and let down is because of the expectations. Just have no expectations. Let people be who. Let people be who they are and let them, if they Disrespect you, if they act this way, then They'd show you right off the bat who they are. Then take it for what you see and walk and that's it.
Speaker 2:Well.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I think, speaking of walk bro, I'm tired, bro, I'm tired man. I only had like two and a half hours of sleep. I'm beat, but I wanted to come out and show some love and and keep this podcast going hard, because you know that's what we do and we want to give back to the community.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've got on here do it and did episodes with you where I yeah, didn't you?
Speaker 2:and we do it, man. We do it because we want to give back and help people and we want to show you, no matter what we're going through, we're gonna still be here to support everybody that needs that. I Mean, I'm fucking running on empty right now and I'm here, and you've been there too, like that other episode. You're having a bad day, you know, but we do it because you know we're trying to be the change and it's the sacrifices that we have to push through In order to come here and give you the content and give you what you guys, what you guys, need to hear.
Speaker 1:So, on that note, Well, I ain't you know what. And you know what, though it shows people to, that we're here.
Speaker 2:We're human too.
Speaker 1:We might be. You know we come on here every week trying to help people, you know, trying to hopefully change people's lives and hopefully, if they're in that dark room or standing on that ledge of a building, literally, like I did, is to try to pull them away from that ledge, because it does get better. But we also show that we're human too. You know, we got to a great place and a lot of things in our life from our past. But just like we just talked about tonight and life's ups and downs is, every Day is a new day. Yeah, every day. Your life can change with one phone call, and you know all about ever man, you don't know Do.
Speaker 1:I ever every single day wake up, something can happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we're and, but. So we deal with things where we're human. We cry, we still get stressed out, I still get depressed and I doubt. But now I've learned the tools to get out of that. I Feel it now Okay. Now, how do I get out of this? You know, it's okay to be down for a day or two and stay in it, but, like I said, if you're still in it six months later, whether it was your fault or not, now it's your fault.
Speaker 2:I'm in it now, in it right now, man, I'm I feel down, I'm feel I'm tired. Man, I'm sick and tired of being tired. You know I Am, but I'm here and I'm pushing forward because, like we say, tomorrow's a new day, man, you know, and you just got to count your blessings, something magical could happen tomorrow. So it's just a matter of you know, just dealing with what you need to do, baby steps. You don't have to tackle everything all at once, but it's the baby steps and as long as you're going forward and Just taking little bites out of it, you know that that says something. At least you're pushing forward that one degree exactly.
Speaker 1:Every day you wake up you find one little thing Different that your normal routine. If it means walking around the block for ten minutes, and you've never. You never do that, do it something. No, you start every day one degree. Give us one degree Exactly, and that direction of your life will change drastically and its consistency exactly, just like going to the gym. Yeah, I can go to the gym tomorrow for six straight hours, nothing's gonna happen. But if you go to the gym every day for six months, massive changes, night and day anything worth anything worth it is.
Speaker 2:Is hard work anything easy? Well fuck, then it's just easy, man, it's not worth it.
Speaker 1:No, but it's the consistency, and every day you wake up one degree something different, because in two months, three months, not only you're gonna feel amazing and way better, you're gonna be doing things you never thought you did that or doing things that you now enjoy, that you might not have enjoyed before, and Meeting people you never thought you would meet and and you know what I mean or even be in a relationship you never thought you'd be in, because of where you got stronger. It's true, so.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you this I'm gonna be taking 90 degrees and hopping right into my bed, but well speaking speaking to the gym as we're on the one. Nice man.
Speaker 1:But uh, yeah, if you guys are listening, we thank you again. Please, if you guys are having a hard time, you don't know who you to talk to you, we are your source. Myself and Eric will answer all messages, emails. You don't even have to leave your real name raw minds podcast at gmailcom. Whatever we can do, we will help you find resources in the towns you live in, even when we don't live there.
Speaker 2:We will find we do, please.
Speaker 1:Raw minds podcast at gmailcom. We're here for you, we are your source. We have been there. We are suicide survivors. We have lost countless family and friends. We, we, we know the struggles and we know what it's like to live in Dark past.
Speaker 2:We were born in it, brother. So, whatever you guys need.
Speaker 1:Please reach out on that note.
Speaker 2:You can't find good people, be good people and I just want to say I'm sorry I haven't really put out a lot today on this, this podcast. I'm just Going through a lot. I'm hurting, but I'm here. I'm pushing through, I'm tired, but I just want to say I appreciate every single one of you. Nothing's gonna stop me. As you can see, I've lost family members. My mom had a heart attack, you know dealing with things, I was up till 2 30 in the morning last night and I'm still here. And Joey Gone through shit and he will still be here. So just know, we have your back. No matter what we go through, we have your back. Even if I'm caught one eye open and half asleep will still be there for you guys. I mean it Reach out and you'll see Anyways. On that note, I'm gonna take 90 degrees and hop in the bed, so get catch up on sleep here. So be good or be good at it.
Speaker 1:Bye Is oh.